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So I have a message for Congress tonight your job is to represent American families American people American workers to jobs. You need to represent them on the border on tax. Health care one vote oh. Yes the answer. For. That is. Well. Then. There. I mean she has information pretty good. For America if you elaborate more on what the d.h. As his. Connection with the d.n.c. Was or consultation with the d.n.c. Was after he became aware of the hacking they became where the hacking as to what was offered them what they accepted Was there any level of cooperation at all. To my disappointment not to my knowledge. And this is a question I asked repeatedly when I 1st learned of it you know what are we doing are we in there are we helping them discover the vulnerabilities because this was fresh off the o.p.m. Experience and there was a point at which d.h.s.s. Cybersecurity experts did get into o.p.m. And actually helped them discover the bad actors and patch some of the exfiltration door at least minimize some of the damage and so I was anxious to know whether or not our folks were in there and the response I got was f.b.i. Had spoken to them they don't want our help they have Crowd Strike the cyber security firm and that was the answer I got after I asked the question a number of times over the progression of time you know that was totally different from the reaction I got from o.p.m. The o.p.m. Effort we were actually in there on site helping them find the bad actors you knew it was at the d.n.c. You made that decision of always make I don't just didn't know you know if the f.b.i. Continued to try to help try to assist I have I've read in The New York Times about those efforts sometime earlier this year. Let me just be very clear at no point during my tenure at the d.n.c. Was I contacted by the f.b.i. D.h.s.s. Or any government agency or alerted or made aware that they believed that the Russians a and enemy state was intruding on our network at no point and I am a member of Congress who had the ability to sit down and be briefed in a classified setting even director call me testified publicly that he wished that he had gone to the top of the organization when one of the 2 national political parties it is astounding that when they had a member of Congress who was leading that organization that no one felt it was it any more important when we had a foreign enemy intruding on one of the 2 political parties networks to do anything more than lob a phone call in to our tech support through our main switchboard But how can both be outraged and I mean Secretary Johnson says the d.n.c. Rebuffed the help that they offered You're saying that no one ever could tell you. Respectfully Secretary Johnson is utterly misinformed that is simply not accurate and much that has been has been written about the timeline of events by the New York Times The Washington Post that document through multiple sources including me that that the f.b.i. And other federal agencies did virtually nothing to make sure that when they were aware at the point that they were aware that there was or concerned that there was an intrusion on our network by the Russians that they did virtually nothing to sound the alarm bells to make us aware of that and they left essentially the Russians on our network for more than for almost a year. So in other words let me be clear Russia did not give you the documents or anything from the d.n.c. . All right that last one was my interview with Julianna songe and they you had Jay Johnson Debbie Wasserman Schultz Peter King of New York who is actually a great guy I just think is a little too liberal lately think of a hard time when I see him but he's a good guy I've known him over the years as a congressman from New York. Here's what this is all about you see you have what's called the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity group it's vets for short . They have a theory that has been picked up by the nation by Bloomberg by The Washington Times them by many others now remember I've interviewed a songe 5 times 4 times on radio one time on t.v. I was there last January he keeps arguing that the people and he'd be the one person on the face of this Earth The knows where the d.n.c. E-mails came from why is that important important because of why is Muller doing the investigation what are the what is the investigations posed to be about Trump Russia collusion Now we know it's expanded well beyond that in terms of its scope and that's what I call investigative creep and that's a big problem and then to finances and into you know well at this point who even knows where this is headed and we don't like the make up of what's going on with the people that Muller is appointing and that is a people that that literally donated to Obama and dome they did to Clinton and donated to Democrats but not Republican Senate any Republican donors. Anyway just to go on through now what they found is in the findings by these researchers as reported by the nation as reported by Bloomberg as reported by The Washington Times is that the forensic Kater and Adam Center let me explain what this is that of that independent researchers that go by the pseudonyms forensic hair or Adam Carter and the former found that 1976 I guess they called Miller of what's the Met met of bytes I guess I don't even know what they call these of goose or 1st files or 2.0 were copied from a d.n.c. Server on July the 5th in just 87 seconds implying a transfer rate of 22.6 megabytes per 2nd or if you convert that to a measure most people use about 180 megabyte megabits per 2nd I'm not the most computer savvy guy in the world and anyway a speed that is not commonly available from us Internet providers and remember these people work at a whole different level than the rest of us 1000 loading these files they argue this quickly over the internet especially you know in a way that most hackers would use thought would have been all but impossible because the network infrastructure they conclude thing. And I'm doing my best here to explain this in layman terms through the through which the traffic would have to pass would further slow the traffic however as the forensic Cantor pointed out in this is all chronicled in these articles the files could have been copied to a thumb drive something only an insider could have done add about that speed now this is technical but it's important now this group has VIP Scroope or Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity group well they include 30 to 34 year veterans of the n.s.a. That have incredible considerable technical experience as Bill Bennett is one of them he's 3234 years the agency's former technical director for World geo political and military analysis serious credentials Edward Loomis Jr He's the former technical director for the office of signals and other words signal intercept processing as well as other threats intelligence officers with equally impressive credentials through the doesn't of course mean the group is right in terms of the analysis and finding the analysis on and on and on but this is a very persuasive and fascinating thing because the implications are grave in other words there was never if there was never if it wasn't the Russians and it was disgruntled d.n.c. People through the into the that is the consequences of that the media wind for all this time conspiracy theories pushed for all this time and so on and so forth Muller why is even there he should close up shop now we have remanent this is now reminiscent of Patrick Fitzgerald. So another former intelligence professional examined at Scott Ritter pointed out that these findings don't necessarily refute that Goo's of his materials constitute the spoils of a hack Anyway joining us now with reaction Kirk Wiebe he is with us former senior analyst he's also worked for the n.s.a. And us and n.s.a. Whistleblower Brian Finch He's the co-chair of cyber security practice at Pillsbury Winthrop Sean Pitman welcome both of you and I know I'm not really good at describing this how did I do Kirk Wiebe he did a fabulous job so I'm you captured it all right explain you read the nation the nation was the 1st I saw that reported it explain to this audience what this means . Well it simply means that. We know relatively little about the entire matter surrounding the removal of d.n.c. E-mails from the d.n.c. Server in the summer 2060 that said and although a Russian hack of the d.n.c. Is not and impossibilities based on the preponderance of available evidence it is almost certain the d.n.c. Event was a leak you think it's a certainty. It's almost certain percentages What do you think my mind about 97 percent so that would mean everything we've heard about Trump Russia Trump Russia Trump Russia collusion collusion collusion is a lie Yeah I well it's it's you know been blown out of proportion if someone would have said a possibility most of us would have agreed but once they say it is it is without any shadow of a doubt that is flat wrong absolutely wrong. What is your take I mean we call guys like like you Brian white hat guys in other words you go into companies and individuals and what you do is you basically try and hack them and you find their vulnerabilities before others do and we know identity theft is so big you know white hat hackers is what we call you guys but you're the good guy you're trying to help protect companies that they can keep their privacy you've read these articles you've seen their information you know their background their expertise and their credentials What are your thoughts Well I wouldn't call myself the most qualified white hat hacker in the world if you ask Michael you're pretty good at it don't listen and you can diminish your your credentials all you want but you are pretty good at this let's be honest I appreciate that Sean thank you I still struggle to get my router to reach my X.-Box but I think from a lawyers perspective you know what this evidence or what this indicates is that there are multiple plausible explanations out there with respect to who leaked the e-mails from the d.n.c. And more importantly you know despite what Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz had to say with respect to cooperation with the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the Department of Homeland Security d.n.c. Made this much harder for itself well they wouldn't let the f.b.i. Even look at their computer systems now who says none of the f.b.i. And then we have my clients to do that whenever we get the opportunity to work with the f.b.i. Or secret service we welcome that because they're the but they're We've got to assume that the best of what they do right and that they're. Absolutely Plus there's the fact that at the end of the day if there's been a criminal activity they're the ones who are going to prosecute it here's my next question does in a meant we all know what happened when the Wiki Leaks reveal came out now the next question logical question is do we tie this current we'd be in anyway or do would you in your mind tie it or at least be suspicious of what the us this guy had this idea specialist and this family that made all this money from the from Democrats overbilling former McDonald's worker a former car dealer guy and then government computers and hard drives busted up in his garage yeah it's it gets murky and with the recent uncovering of the guys who were working for Debbie Wasserman Schultz I mean all these avenues are opening up none of them are giving their fans Cers what bothers me the most oh Sean is that the government could have disclosed evidence by now showing us that our thinking is wrong and this hasn't Do you know an 8983 Pro I want you to hold that thought Don't don't go anywhere because that's an important you're saying that the government already knows this part of Russia because trust should trump collusion you saying that they are already know yeah I think they know and they wouldn't tell the American people well I think they can tell the American people and what I want to contrast is President Reagan disclose the intercept of the k.a.l. Shoot down in 1083 before the United Nations to prove what the Russians did. Stay right there we'll take a while take a break well and with that we have all those people saying we have no evidence no evidence no evidence no evidence but the media is the one with it all right now I don't know the answers to these questions but you know when the nation the Washington Times Bloomberg and people with those credentials are saying this I'm suspicious I want answers the American people deserve the truth and they deserve answers and asking questions is a good thing for the country it's National Make a Wilmont the Legal Zoom dot com Listen don't let the government make decisions of god forbid you ever pass away that means about your finances your kids it will be the most important thing you do this summer Legal Zoom created an estate planning kit they want to help you get going and it's absolutely free tons of helpful information Legal Zoom dot com discounts everything you need to stop procrastinating prepare for your future Legal Zoom they design this kit to provide the tools you need all in one place doesn't matter do you need a will living trust what's right for you where you going to get special Legal Zoom discounts the estate plan checklist an e-book all for free how many more questions you always get advice from the network of attorneys now available in all 50 states legalisms not a law firm just go to Legal Zoom dot com slash prepare Legal Zoom dot com slash prepare no obligation all free just resources to help you protect everything you care about it's National make a will month Legal Zoom dot com slash prepare. 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Disgruntled Bernie person I'm getting that right Kirk Yeah that's my beliefs on it and you believe the government probably knows the truth but they're not telling us that Donald Trump know the truth well if put it this way it's easier if they won't tell us the truth or they don't have any evidence to support their claim and they don't want to embarrass themselves all right sold in the next logical question is Why don't they dig deeper why don't they get to the truth. That is a good question because I don't know the whole truth all I know is he's a really respectable credentialed people though don't you think Brian venge. I do I have to what do you think when you read it what it will be at that what did you think when you read the nation piece. As you mentioned earlier I mean I thought it was a remarkable remarkable collection of sources here you've got the left for the nation the right with The Washington Times and basically the center with the Bloomberg here so this is not just some partisan or outlandish conspiracy theory as you said it was not earlier it's certainly something that needs to be followed up on and when I read the story about you know the possible insider theft of these e-mails it's possible as anything that's out there I think it deserves equal weight in terms of the investigation and more than anything else Sean It just reinforced my personal belief that look we know Russia tried to impact the election in some way shape or form but to allege collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government is just more denial on the part of the folks who are and I think and you'll quit running out of time do you think that the nation really believes they've got this nailed That's why a left wing publication did this because they're sending a signal to all their friends that have gone out so far on the limb in order wrong they trying to say something with this piece I think there's there's certainly a lot of anger under at the washroom and Schultz and the way the d.n.c. 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For your heart for me not to walk matter but I know the sound of me sorry she put me through all the last 12 years I mean that you know look it is when you know and I see he's a guy I am sick and tired of people who say that if you know debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic and wave just stand up and say where America is that we have a right to debate that gets a great point that I had better try Should I write that Hillary Clinton's new book and our latest excuse about why she lost is not the 1st time she claimed that somebody invaded her space and she said it about Rick was the oh new book is called what happened but of course the only person not to blame is her to back up you creep and then the women you heard from Paula Jones and caviling Willie and Dolly column Juanita Broaddrick Hillary was silent in all of those instances and a very very severe stay. Min's made about her husband and may I add that the Clinton Foundation did take money from Saudi Arabia the United Arab Emirates and and Kuwait and Oman and cutter and Algeria and Brunei and Saudi Arabia you know women can't drive and are told how to dress and gays and lesbians are killed women can't travel abroad they can't work unless they get permission and gays and lesbians are killed and Christians and Jews persecuted and in the u.a.e. Well let's see they have us law that states women have a right to work without being held disobedient that's nice and the penal code in the u.a.e. Gives men the legal right to discipline their wives and their children including physical violence and in Kuwait women have been denied the right to become public prosecutors and judges don't have the same rights as men to obtain nationality for even their spouses and kids and is no laws prohibiting domestic violence sexual harassment or marital rape and I can go on from there but I don't want to put Rick Congar in too big a hole for a governor joins us of the steel and anger show Jonathan Gillum has with us well what how you going to wiggle out of this one this week I am just you know I think I didn't get the memo I thought the election was over and you're still living in that another no you don't get the dodge by saying the election is over well or is that Hillary's release came out yesterday therefore it is news when she's saying Oh oring the day bait I said oh he is saying invading my space is not Ok I'm not Ok is incredibly uncomfortable I think it pretty was literally brazen out on line so that brings up issues about whether or not Hillary's You know you know support of those countries and taking their money and all these other women she remained silent whether that quote of the week that it brings up I don't think so John Avlon you think that's a leap I've I've to pay to delete I don't I don't think anything that's really he said it's a leap I don't have people leave off and I've had men get into. My Space and said a little ruefully What does that mean every time you get near me I say I am still not bass player you think every time you come near me I think back up you creep or . Port United Arab Emirates and all those other places you list well why would you take money from countries that abuse women kill gays and lesbians and persecute Christians and Jews I wouldn't take money from them when you only know I actually wouldn't take money from them so so I guess even though Donald Trump might have gotten closer during a debate that's what I meant what's worse the way Donald Trump might have gotten close to her during a debate or the fact that she took money from countries that abuse these groups we could probably wind that logic out forever if for no I don't really think so but it's a simple question Recchi I go I'm going to answer I don't like the money I don't like the foundation took money from those countries and then turned around and I just want to big bet was going to because I said you're going to say. I said to lend Jonathan I said he under is going to dodge duck and then he's going to say wow I don't agree with that personally that's what I'd predicted he'd say Well 1st off let me say that I feel the exact same way when I 1st met Rick on grout was like Come on you're breathing on me back up a little bit I'm for getting Congress a great guy but seriously that's one of the good things about Unger is that he does eventually what is real and and but I think you know the thing with this Hillary the whole Hillary Clinton think sometimes I wonder if they are just doing these things to remain in the news to remain a could because they ascribe to the Saul Alinsky tactic of just be out there make noise so that people continue to remember your name and then when you get a chance to start slamming the enemy that's what you do and that's that's the whole saw when you just remain relevant you know more cynically you know with you know you know my analysis is that I was you know I think that book my analysis I think the Clintons just went they just. To get every penny and milk this this their public you know positions dry it's like there's nothing they won't do. Or at least they would if they want a fairy if you wrote that book you seek out a lot of money to write the book like all people who write books think would you ever I mean would you ever do an audio book like Hillary I felt he was invading my space I was uncomfortable would you ever do that if I was so now we're that would like you an audio book you're right if you were an audio book if somebody wanted an audio book for you what but you don't know not read it what can I tell you if I tell you I thought I want to move on to more serious issues let me play what part of what I did in my monologue last night and that is and I've made the prediction last week that the whole issue would have started in Charlottesville it doesn't matter how many times how many ways Donald Trump says and he said it in 91 Larry King and he said at the Matt Lauer 20 years ago and he said it all throughout the campaign and he said it ever since Charlottesville but it doesn't matter the left and once the bludgeon him politically and the left wants to portray every conservative Republican and this president is racist for example this is the president disavowing denouncing racism white supremacy for the evil it is what do you see as the biggest problem with the Reform Party right now you've got David Duke just joined a big get. A racist. A problem I mean this is not exactly the people you want in your party. So I totally do since. The time Klux Klan. I totally disagree David to. David Duke announced to Senate candidates claiming your agenda for his home or essentially saying glad you spoke out are you ready for yes the question Newt Gingrich said every Republican should repudiate this guy and I do. Hear any repeal. Said Ok repeal. Review done done Ok. Even though we endorsed the David Duke endorse the Ok I just about. Ok and I don't mind just about anybody and I disavowed David Griffin. And they hurt me very easily just about David. I want to characterize him more words than one David to. David Duke is a bad person. Who I disavowed. For secure Asians over the years put it clear I disavowed him in the past and I just have now. I've rejected David. Green Jacket Dave and. I've rejected the k.k.k. The 2 Klux Klan. From the time I'm 5 years old I rejected them. Mitt Romney says you're coddling of repugnant bigotry is not in the character of America your response David Duke at all were disavowed. I just about a month fried. I disavowed him right after that. Because I thought if there was any question and you took a look at Twitter almost immediately after on Twitter and Facebook I would piss of out again because I'm running out of time let me just give a quick headline answer from Rick are going to go take a break you get the point you might have but you must have a little more time to play the audio where the president when he wasn't president yet so he had no idea what and how it took him all that time you get the well what do you want and I thought my interpreter Well I don't know this guy I mean that's what he was saying I have no idea who David Duke is to play the tape you must I have a tape interpret it differently than you did Jonathan how did you interpret I've heard to grow he thinks he doesn't know him not exactly know who he is he doesn't know he doesn't know and that's the point. 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As we continue Rick Ungar is with us along with Jonathan and I recall give you a chance but I mean you know I'm going to the media except for me I don't know one person in the media that played the president year in year out as many times as he has denouncing white supremacism again and again and David Duke and the Klan again and again and again I don't know how he could have denounced David Duke all that time because his quote was I don't know any Honestly I don't know David which would speak to your interpretation I don't believe that I've ever met if that could be your interpretation I'm pretty sure I couldn't meet him and I don't know anything about him well he doesn't know anything about. Why would he be did not just knows it's a former Klan white supremacist guy Ok well you know what you're making my point Jonathan and I just think you know I do I really believe I'm right you're wrong shocking Jonathan. You know. Within your hair's that it happens on the left as it was imposed on takes in general but when the president says that he doesn't know David Duke and doesn't know anything about him things like that will get spun up by people like Don Lemon c.n.n. Where they just go crazy on this soundbite and people really have to stop looking at these soundbites because. Of this powering telling people that he understands who he is the No one and people don't take the full content and we're stuck on the soundbites in this country by well that's the point I can claim 50 things and Rick you know goes to one thing that could mean pretty bold ways and it's just it's always been the mentally unfair and this is what happens every 2 and 4 years we just listen to an entire 3 minutes of soundbites and I've got more we didn't finish I'm not sure you do as now you're at now Jonathan said we're splitting hairs by actually listening to something the president said don't do that one that's splitting hairs. You're judging off of one thing go soundbites when there's hundreds of them you think the president racist thing Rick Ungar do you think the president's racist Actually I don't because I've never met the president I think the president has been a little too supportive of people I do think are racist you know good how has he been supportive of racist that's a I think you know I mean because he says I want to build using saying you want to vent people and build a wall as racist No that wasn't what was in my head and actually I never know what if you don't figure out what's in that head of yours I know. But I know I would you know it's hard for me to accuse somebody of being you're right I think there's only so many more times as you need to disavow to make the left you know realize that he's not. And how many times does he need to say they're evil and repugnant and disgusting way and not what and he didn't praise the protesters who have also been peaceful protesters if it's not it's not just the concern of the left you know you might have been able to say that months ago I don't think you can say that anymore never trump another never droppers have always been out there just waiting to say see we were right that there are those very rational reasonable people out America got a bit of identify they don't identify as left or right and they don't like to thank her either but but he said he didn't like what he saw he said it again and again that's my only point and nobody in the media plays it but all right I've got to roll Rick under thank you as always John and Bill and when we come by we have a really powerful debate you don't want to miss this we're going to check in with Spencer Tillman and also our friend Dan Bongino on why did he s b n take Robert Lee off the air 809 for one Sean as our number will continue. 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