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During the 2009 swine flu pandemic and it's a passes every What are flu seasons as 2003 with the government changed the way it measures flu this season started early it has been driven by a nasty type of flu that tends to put more people in the hospital and cause more deaths after cross reporting Israel shot down an infiltrating a rainy and drone Saturday struck a rainy and targets deep in Syria before one of its own jets was downed Israel called the drone infiltration a severe and irregular violation of Israel's Israeli sovereignty and warned that Iran would be held accountable for its meddling President Trump offers an explanation for the decision not to declassify a memo by House Intelligence Committee Democrats in the f.b.i. Is Russia probe in a Saturday morning tweet President Trump called the memo a very political and long response and says the Democrats knew because of sources and methods and more that it could not be declassified and released in full that is been Thomas reporting meanwhile to Columbus Ohio suburban contra killed this afternoon Westerville Police Chief Joseph more bits are says the officers were dispatched to investigate a 911 hang up call as they went into the the apartment they were immediately met with gunfire moved officers were shot. During post away on the scene of some really was transported to hospital where he later passed away more bitter says 39 year old Eric Joran was a 16 year veteran of the force 54 year old Tony Morelli had served for 30 years a suspect is in custody no further details by the police during the investigation check out more news and analysis at townhall dot com I'm Rhonda. 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Welcome to the town hall review brought to you by the Salem media group I'm Hugh Hewitt the infamous Intel Committee memo is released you know the world didn't end but the careers of a few bureaucrats maybe any imagine that John McCain's campaign had come up with. Like accusing Barack Obama I mean people were. After the memo the markets wilted shifting our attention from the Washington's want to Wall Street guys not ball it was not coming to an end it's President trouble to let the markets up over 30 percent and a Clinton team member famous for spinning Hillary's Bengazi scandal is back in the news but not in a good way when you hear who one of the sources of that information is you're going to think oh my gosh I've heard that name somewhere before there is troubling news about a growing war on democracy we'll hear from Dr Larry Diamond people began to lose faith in democracy but then rush began like this thanks for joining us I'm Hugh Hewitt great to be with you you can hear my own program live each weekday morning 6 to 9 am Eastern time online be on my site you here at dot com and on your handheld device be have the tune in radio out for several weeks leading up to Friday of last week we saw a war of wills over a memo the House Intelligence Committee Republican sought to declassify and release when the memo was released which had light among other things on government machinations during the 2016 presidential campaign loud protests came from Democrats the f.b.i. And Justice Department members a week later one begins to see why the howling took place my colleague Dennis Prager spoke with Kimberley Strassel the Wall Street Journal editorial board this is its own little it's own world and if they were so much to master to even begin to understand it so anyway I want to I just want to ask you 1st a very big macro question is is there. Right now I fear the fact of the Democrats the Obama administration and the of the past attorney general on the f.b.i. . Those who have corrupted my think there has been corruption I think if it stays the way it is they will get away with it and it's a terrible pity I keep telling people Denis when they raise this to imagine if the shoe were on the other foot imagine that. John McCain's campaign had come up with a dasi a like this accusing Barack Obama of all the things that the workers suggested that he wasn't born here that he was a convert he was a secret Muslim they directed up his intelligence and they got the George w. Bush administration to get a wiretap on his campaign team I mean people would be appalled. And rightly so what do you think we don't know there's a lot that we don't know and probably the biggest bombshell that candle lies in bombshell that actually on that. Senator Chuck Grassley released a highly redacted version of his referral to the Justice Department for a criminal investigation of Christopher Steele who obviously put together the dossier and a lot of this is making the case for why either Christopher Steele lied to the f.b.i. Or the f.b.i. Lied to the court but if the if the bottom of it there's this amazing paragraph and which we find out that there is a bit of the dossier that was never in fact released to the public by Buzz Feed and in which according to the Grassley referral he claims the information contained in that part of the dossier was fed to Christopher Steele by associates of the Clinton campaign so we had not just the Clinton campaign. Paying for his work but people associated with the Clintons giving him information that went into the dossier that is the theory of Daniel dream fields that is named Alan Dangour Greenfield the front page rags very very bright guy that ultimately the origins or in the Clinton campaign we don't know that yet we don't know now now the fact that she was associates of hers were feeding him information for the dossier is not the same thing of saying that they created the whole thing I think it's very important because this gets to the question of Mr Steele sources and I think that this is the point the grass is trying to make more broadly which is that everyone is focused very much so far on the interaction between Steele and the f.b.i. But don't forget who hired him ultimately it was the Clinton campaign and one has to assume that the minute these dot ca documents were coming in because they you know they were a series of memos that didn't all arrive at once they were rolling production but every time they came in they were instantly handed to the Clinton campaign and as you know notable that Glenn Simpson who runs fusion g.p.s. He was asked and he refused to say who else he gave the dossier to but I think Grassley squeak in this is that as these things were coming and being spread out through Washington more and more people were aware of it maybe not the press and they might not have been public but the f.b.i. Was surely not the only one who knew about it and as he put in this referral quote Simply put the more people who contemporaneously knew that Mr Steele was compiling is the CIA the more likely it was Bill Maher goal to manipulation. And so he's I think broadly making the point that not only did that allow Clinton associates to begin eating things to him but it greatly enhanced the likelihood that the Russians knew about this project and were feeding things to him to. So if we if the Russians were feeding steal information against Trump then the Russians were not only not colluding with Trump they were colluding against Trump Well I have never bought the our idea that they were rooting for one side or the other no help but anything about Russian and I agree with you all it says so I'm just so chaos so that would definitely fall into this category but that's a big deal it was a very big deal because you know Christopher Steele is a former spy and he is they like to say you never get out of the spy business you know you're monitored for the rest of your life do you think a special counsel or prosecutor should be appointed to investigate this whole thing. I am so wary of that Dennis I mean and I have a lot of people like I'm still not sure where I think on this because a lot of very down people who I know who have not like special prosecutors in the past have come to the conclusion that it's the only way forward and they make the argument that the risk here is that you have a he said she said thing forever. What I'd like is that there isn't a way 1st and foremost to release more of the actual source documents here to give people a plot out of what really was Bynum and so that they can make up their mind since the November 26th election the economy and the markets have been humming along nicely predictions are that we could see part percent growth in g.d.p. In 2018 in inflation worries along with that growth interest rates have been rising to offset inflation that all caught up with the markets which to expect Takio early earlier this week my colleague Mike Gallagher caught up with the n.b.c. Is Larry Kudlow for an explanation I want you to straighten out all us lay people the sky has fallen down Trump has done it again the world is coming to an end and it's all but over. Can you give us can you separate fact from fiction for us Larry . Well. You know it's God not Paul in the world not coming through and actually since President Charles elected the markets up over 30 percent but look what's going on here is a rise in interest rates specially long term rates in the treasury market the government market and it's gone from you know in round numbers from about 2 percent last fall to about 285 recently it's down a little bit during this correction but that's a pretty big move but let me just say that you know good economy. The next couple of years it's as well I think is happening will continue to bolster profits profits of the mother's milk of stocks so once this interest rate adjustment is completed you actually have pretty good buying opportunity and that's the way I see it but you know it's in fashion Ajmi that the hype in the media and it feels like this sort of self-fulfilling prophecy this you know ball effect the media seems to be hyperventilating then we start to hyperventilate and it and the more we cover a correction like this the more it contributes to it right I mean isn't this sort of a catch $22.00 process I don't think so you have to let these corrections run their course there's a lot of technical things that you and I probably don't want to get into but it has to do with volatility indexes and short covering has to be completed and it takes a while to do that the market is a little calmer today I think that's a good sign I'm not here to predict when when the correction is over right and about 7 and a half percent I think from peak to trough and that's Ok you know corrections come and go and if you have a longer term perspective you have to keep your eye in a healthy economy so I think it's quite good it's moving into a 3 percent growth and again my profits are the key to everything profits of the mother's milk upside. As I said a killing and once this interest rate adjustment is digested and it will be able we're not going to have a continuous major spike in rates but long term rates going up and stock valuations had to adjust my guess is that will end and you know a few days or a few weeks and will be a great buying opportunity I think that folks are in the market they should stay in the market I'm always a believer in stocks in the long run I think the economic policies from President Trump the been quite constructive I mean the business tax cut has been fantastic you know hundreds of companies have reacted positively to it much more to come. Roll back regulations I think you know that's like a tax cut as well and generally speaking the policies are progress I don't want to politicize this but there does seem to be a reluctance by the Trump haters to give any credit to this administration for today's economy can you give me the Larry Kudlow believe you look I think you had a big change here in the structure of the economy because we're now rewarding success not punishing and specially with respect to business there was a war on business in the prior administration and the trumpets ended that war and there was a war on investing and Trump event that that war he has done so virtually repertory Clee and also justly a reduction in tax rates reward success the extra dollar earned by the business whether it's a large company or a small company to pay a lower tax at the. Tremendous incentive and I think we're seeing that playing out I think that's great I'm sorry my friends on the Democratic side or at least some of them don't agree or don't buy it I just don't want to politicize this I thought I'd go back to my mentor Arthur. Laughter and laughter occur when you text something more you get less of it you catch something less you get more of it it's just really that simple. Coming out I'm pretty troubled by what I read and the documents with respect to the role the State Department played in the fall of 2016 with including information that was used in a court proceeding I am troubled by weeks before any Oleksandr somebody and they have on a State Department list feeding information from a foreign source to Christopher Steele when you hear who the source of one of the sources of that information is you're going to think oh my gosh I've heard that name somewhere before where could it possibly have been a shadowy figure emerges from the us one when the town hall review returned in a moment. This is your good for townhall dot com The recent release of the memo from g.o.p. Representative Devin Nunez revealed one major fact that stands out about all of the revelations the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrant or Pfizer warrant on Carter page omitted a material fact while the f.b.i. Admitted that the information came from a politically motivated source the bureau did not disclose that the source had been financed by Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign that's a damning omission the nondisclosure of a material fact in an application for a 5 a warrant it's minimisation Indeed one could argue it's camouflaging is a very big deal and it's Providence should be thoroughly investigated it threatens to undermine every warrant submitted to a Pfizer court what I've called trumped torque is piling on every one of the news business his critics are often overheated and the defenders tend to ignore is there but it's not about president trying or at least this one shouldn't be it's about whether American courts approves surveillance of Americans and that's every American is concerned I'm here to do it. 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Looking for new ways to advertise your business to buy you dinner for 2 Let us show you how easy it can be to get new Windows 8 to ever. Welcome back to the town hall review on Hugh Hewitt at the center of the Intel committee's investigation into service. Tactics on American civilians is offside da Ca on Donald Trump circulated in January $27000.00 by the Democratic National Committee the document was paid together by retired British bikers the 1st day oh it was funded by the Clinton campaign in the d.n.c. Offered up a dossier to the f.b.i. The f.b.i. Then approached the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court using the dossier and perhaps other material to gain approval of surveillance on Carter page a former campaign official I spoke with Congressman Mike Gallagher about in the Tories figure a Clinton colleague who may have also provided Steele with additional information I played a key clip of Congressman Trey Gowdy permit interchange of boxes Martha MacCallum to lead into our conversation weeks before the election somebody in the Obama State Department was feeding information from a foreign source to Christopher Steele when you hear who the source of one of the sources of that information is you're going to think oh my gosh I've heard that name somewhere before where could it possibly have been and find source that domestic source and I'm trying to think how Secretary Clinton defined you know I think she said he was an old friend who emailed her from time to time. But he really warmed now you know everything about Sid Vicious My only knowledge of him for saying it thank God And when that 1st happened I was actually on active duty and I was working at the National Counterterrorism Center was actually on duty for the night shift at the ops center and when they got the app and we got there around 5 pm and that the incident started about an hour an hour before and we monitored it right then I had actually read some of the 1st summary of what had happened and so it's the that and then to see the way in which it was portrayed possibly in the media by the previous administration and that the best way discover the role that Blumenthal had and the I think upwards of 30 memos that he prepared quote unquote intelligence that he prepared for Hillary Clinton. And that sort of points or world view on Libya was very troubling and so to have his name pop up again in all of this it would be comical if it weren't tragic I just would say that having gotten to know him a little bit over the last year whenever Trey Gowdy speaks on any subject you should pay close attention and you should take that incredibly seriously because the man works harder than pretty much anyone else here on the Hill he does this homework and he does not say things lightly he doesn't Homer for he says them straight out of adjusting his connection here I would take that incredibly incredibly seriously with the fall of the Soviet empire over 25 years ago we saw in the Moscow scene on the rise in Africa Latin America and Eastern Europe recently that trend seems to have reversed Michael Medved recently did a show from Stanford University's Hoover Institution a conservative policy think tank while he was there Michael interviewed senior fellow Dr Larry Diamond who heads up their center on democracy I wanted a Larry to come on the show because I heard him give a presentation at Hoover a couple of months ago which was one of the most eye opening frightening and important presentations I've ever heard of its kind and it was about the assault on democracy and the successes of those assaults by people like the law the man puton just a sketch of how briefly adopted on and what would you have presented was the fact that it seemed that democracy was on the March that more and more societies were adopting free markets free minds free men and then something changed and things began moving in the other direction what changed well Michael many things changed people as a result of economic difficulties the Great Recession of 2008 the Iraq intervention not going well when it was advertised enough or to promote democracy people began to lose faith in democracy but then Russia began to exploit the. Sent develop a new set of techniques particularly through social media to exploit divisions manufactured deploy Internet robots to intervene in our social media and so division and fear and false Internet for to divide and manipulate Democratic politics not only in the United States but in Britain where they appear now to played a major role in the vote in favor of Brecht's in France and Germany now throughout much of Central and Eastern Europe and there we were already told now they're intervening heavily in the Mexican election to try to help this extreme left wing populist on Lopez oh yeah exactly when they're and become a headache for the United States in the region he's sort of the Mexican version of the Chavez I mean who's been running forever trying to become president Andres Manuel Manuel Lopez Obrador the retreat of democracy why should Americans be concerned and are we subject to some of the same forces Well Michael it's a great question of course 2 things the link one reason why we should be concerned is that we are being subject to many of the same forces and there's growing evidence that not only was there intervention in the social media dialogues and polarization of the 2016 campaign but that it's ongoing that is former f.b.i. Director James Comey says they're coming back at us they're coming for our democracy and Russia not only intervened in the social media to try to fabricate fear and division and polarization and racial hatred it's now I think well documented they were also probing into the voter registration databases of at least $22.00 states and clearly they seem to have as their ultimate target possibly trying to derail a free and fair election or. Prevent people from voting or changing the vote and wherever they can as much as they can if they sow chaos to fish and doubt and cynicism about democracy they win in their effort to de Rayo faith and democracy globally what are the steps that individuals that citizens the Patriots pen take to protect our country from Russian assaults on our values and to help protect democratic norms and values around the world. Well 1st we need a collective response on that house to involve serious and I really emphasize nonpartisan effort to document and investigate exactly what happened in 2016 and what the Russians seem to be up to in the future so you know without getting into the explosive partisan divisions here I think everybody on each side needs to take a deep breath and just let the process do its work without politicization earn enough parents but the 1st thing the 2nd thing is that we need to protect ourselves against this I think we need to continue to impose very severe sanctions on those elements of the Russian state Lattimer Putin's coterie the Internet sacked or ease of trolls and robots that they have that are intervening not only in our social media but in European elections the coming Mexican election and ratchet up the costs to these people doing this sabotage the 3rd thing on an individual level Michael is that people really need to make an effort to evaluate what they're reading on the Internet and break out of the immediate cone and navigate around search mechanisms to see if what they're reading really is credible and not take everything at face value there's a lot of the liberally false and they feel event for mission coming from many directions on the Internet and the Russians are not only getting the right of center or you know nativist and anti immigrant side of this and the United States and Europe they're cheating left wing conspiracies as well and we now know that Putin's agents were you know not only organizing events and rhetorical campaigns for very anti immigrant causes but they were trying to stimulate the radical left in the United States too so we could have the United States society tearing itself apart that's that's Putin's goal coming. That you should pick up your cross and move forward forthrightly through life and make yourself into are courageous and productive and socially you will end meaningfully engaged individual Jordan Peterson in the tell all of you continues in a moment. With us our own news I'm Rhonda Rockstro a government report out Friday shows one of every 13 visits to the doctor last week was for a fever cough and other symptoms of the flu that ties the highest levels seen in the u.s. During the 2009 swine flu pandemic and it surpasses every winter flu season since 2003 when the government changed the way it measures flu how c.s. X. Railway crews routed an Amtrak train onto a park freight train in k.c. South Carolina last week remains under investigation but even if c s x should bear sole responsibility for last weekend's accident Amtrak will likely pay legal claims with public money you Sociedad Press is reporting that Amtrak pays for accidents it didn't cause because of secretive agreements negotiated between the passenger rail company and the railroads whose tracks the federally subsidized Amtrak travels says s are in news. Larry Elder points out the rise in the president's approval rating. 49 percent in France in November with 46 percent Germany in December 38 percent. January of this year 37 percent. Must be racists folks they must be dictators Larry Elder Show weeknights at 7 right before Lars Larssen a 10 own money 60 9 pm. 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Reporter where he had the audacity to call for masculinity from Man He recently published 12 rules for your life which have become a wildly successful bestseller particularly among young men Peterson's ideas are influenced by like ology the Bible and common sense in our quote subversive to identity politics that is the way my colleague Michael Medved characterized them when he recently interviewed Dr Peterson you've been a dishwasher a gas jockey a bartender a short order cook a beekeeper an oil derrick bit retape are these are not typical background elements for a professor of psychology. Well I had a pretty. Diverse range of working class jobs when I was from the time I was 13 till the time I was I don't know probably 25 I came from a small place in the kind of remote location and it was a working class or oil boom place and I did a lot of different think so which I'm quite happy about well I was good do you think that it's that sort of experience that's contributed to the abundance of common sense that people a perceive in your work hard think it's part of that but I also think it's partly being a clinical psychologist you know like I was trained as a behavioral psychologist and there are there is no more sensible discipline than. Behavior then behaviorally then the then the behavioral element of clinical psychology because basically the mantra is Ok Well people have problems and that's undeniable we need to define them carefully so we work with people to do that then we need to break them down into manageable pieces and so that strategic problem solving then we need to implement the solutions and test them collaboratively to see if they work like it's very very practical and clinicians clinical psychologists are always oriented towards identifying the problem and then coming up with practical implementable solutions and then. In among the great clinicians outside of the behavioral realm there are people who are very sophisticated in their ethical philosophy let's say and reading them as well really armed me I would say to be of use to people and I see what I'm doing on You Tube and with my work with my products I have these online products that help people straighten out their lives once called self or 3. It's all an extension of my clinical work and I've dreamed with my calling for 25 years one of them is a clinical psychologist and the other is an experimental psychologist we dream for 20 years of bringing large scale effective psychological interventions to a mass population and I see all of this is part of that so some of it's my working class grounding I would say the fact that I have very sensible parents but some of it is merely a consequence of being a practicing clinical psychologist and taking that seriously in the middle in an electronic age. Which of these 12 rules do you think is most radical most controversy all most subversive of conventional wisdom Well I guess it depends on what you mean by conventional I don't know if any of them are subversive subversive of conventional wisdom they might be subversive of modern day it is a logical commonplaces you know because the book emphasizes the emphasizes group identity in fact makes the case repeatedly that there's almost nothing you can do that's worse for yourself and for other people than to identify more more or less blindly and it be a logical fashion with your ethnicity or your race or your sexual preference or any of the categories that the identity politics types think are paramount instead that you should pick up your cross and move forward forthrightly through life and make yourself into a courageous and productive and socially useful and meaningful engaged individual and it's funny thing that that's become a subversive idea because I would say that that's basically the idea upon which whatever good the Western world has encountered or done is 'd predicated still. And in other words you favor the idea that Dr King emphasized judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin or the nature of their ethnicity or well their gender identity there's a word for what happens when you judge people by the color of their skin not word is war so if you want to go down that path then you know that's a path that we've gone down as a species many times not not least multiple times in the 20th century where are we divided ourselves into warring tribes either economically or racially and had at it and we could certainly degenerate into that again but it seems to me that having done so murderously for a 100 years we might learn a lesson for a while and decide that. Treating each other as potentially responsible individuals with the spark of divinity within them but then there might be a reasonable alternative coming up last year we've had more bills in the House of Representatives in the president's 1st year than the 1st year of Obama Clinton or both Bushes when the tell all of you returns in a moment. This is Albert Moberg for townhall dot com Congress is currently considering the reauthorization of the Higher Education Act of 1965 and we should all sit up and take note sometimes legislation that looks almost innocuous as anything but sometimes legislation that will have historic and long lasting effect doesn't go by any name that would get the citizens attention sometimes it's almost as if politically it's moving under the surface without much attention at all the reauthorization is an entire clash of worldviews and one piece of legislation to the credit of the trumpet ministration the over $500.00 page bill is loaded with respect and concern for the future of religious liberty in the United States most specifically the future of religious liberty on American college and university campuses now all of this may look routine but the result can turn out to be anything but routine it's no exaggeration to say that the future of religious liberty in this country will have a great deal to do with the final state of this bill I'm Albert Mohler. 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Welcome back to the town hall revue I'm Hugh Hewitt speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan joined me this week to talk about the new budget deal the one that finally gets the government on a path to $355.00 ships in the Navy and 2 years of a budget plan to ask about the defense spending the president has got almost everything he campaigned on through your very significant Congress whether it's tax reform just as Gore said should repeal the mandate the individual mandate in Obamacare regulatory rollback the pipeline that's all been done except the 355 shift Navy that he campaigned on is that Emon Yes that's something that's in the what we call the n.d.s. In the defense authorization bill without getting too wonky that's in what we call the n.d.a. The defense authorization bill but in order to get that you have to fund it this budget is exactly the numbers in the defense of there's a sham bill now the d.o.d. There's some debate between the max Thornberrys and the Thad Cochran's of the world in the Roberts men's and d.o.d. Over whether to invest in you know r. And d. And readiness versus building up capacity like your shipyards up in Wisconsin Yeah but your congress Iesus of America the Congress decides that doesn't it that's Ok you guys and so much why do you see the caucus going are they going to insist that we build that capacity well so you just described the people you just described where are the Appropriations Committee in the authorization committee and so the armed services is really the committee that gives you the forward looking vision which is not just a one year thinking but but a multi-year plan and the appropriators sound military on an annual basis and so sometimes those those views can collide with one another but never before have I seen them in more in sync than they are right now in the past I would see more friction between the annual appropriators in a long term plan or as I see very little daylight between those people so I think we're going to see you as a compromise in between these things and. I believe the n.d.a. Which Kate Granger she is the head of the Appropriations Committee she wrote her bill the annual appropriations to track with the defense authorization bill with next door Mary and it happens the 2 of them are very close friends are both Texas Congress people so Kay wrote her appropriation bill to match the n.c.a.a. So I think what you have here is a merger now you know this is this is turning out to be one of the most significant Congresses of my lifetime and I thought I've already listed all the things that have happened to people understand the difference between d.c. In 2015 and d.c. And 2800 this is a revolution you know because you turn on t.v. All but one or 2 channels and it's it's it's memo in Russia and distractions in this in that we have done exactly what you said 1st what we ran on this agenda and now we're painstakingly step by step implementing this agenda as you mentioned the president and Congress said we're going to tax reform or new regulatory roadblocks we're going to put conservative justices on the court we're going to rebuild our military we're going to get rid of the sequester on the military the president actually talked about that in his campaign we're doing that in this bill then we're moving to immigration reform then we're going to go move on workforce development which is getting people from welfare to work which is a really important reform so every able bodied American can go to work and get the skills they need to get the jobs they want so we can get even faster economic growth that is all part of our agenda that we ran on in our better way that the president campaigned on and we're well on our way to executing and implementing this agenda last year we test more bills in the House of Representatives in the president's 1st year than the 1st year of Obama Clinton or both Bushes So we're really kind of rocking and rolling around you also know it by reading the newspaper I know it's it's actually kind of breathtaking that it's gotten done but you also ran on reinvigorating article one's oversight so when director Ray and deputy attorney general Rosenstein came to see you about the Nunez report you turned him down flat What was that conversation. Do they understand the article one responsibilities that you embody Well they certainly heard a recitation of it so what I'd say is I feel very strongly about Article one because the House and the head of the legislative branch this is an independent co-equal branch of government the separation of powers and therefore our liberties only works when these branches are strong and so that is why we said these document requests are legitimate they're completely reasonable they're wholly appropriate and it is our job in the legislative branch the elected branch of government to oversee the unelected executive branch and so therefore we have to have these documents they did produce those documents and in as you know there's different kinds of Pfizer by the way just like confusion about this I'm sure you're familiar with 7 o 2 which is yes how we spy on foreign terrorists overseas you know foreigners who are planning terror attacks and then there's a section one How to want to use easy of which we believe there is there's a case to be made that this is this has been abused and if if if we the people have given this kind of power to our executive branch it is our job in Article one to hold them accountable if we see signs of abuse so that executive power is not abused and so that our liberties are protected Pfizer is a very important law it's a very important law that breaks down the barriers between intelligence and law enforcement that we cited in the 911 Commission but it means that we have to be even more vigilant here in Congress in making sure that the executive branch does it the right way that they don't cross any lines that they don't abuse this power and this kind of transparency gets you the kind of accountability we need so that these laws are administered properly and that the Constitution is protected let me ask you now about the president he is as James Holmes has said if he didn't just keep breaking into prison his numbers would be 10 points higher you've closed the gap in that funny that's good line for a moment. He does however set off these concerts. Mercy's which obscured the legislative accomplishments that we chatted with him about this yes we have we had our fair share of conversations about the banks you can imagine know we get along very well actually and. Sometimes I feel like we don't we don't need as much white noise because there's so much we are actually getting done at on the flip side you could say that he is shaking things up so much that's helping us get things done that's true let me go back to his initial going at it by talking about the freedom caucus I love these guys Jim Jordan a friend I love these guys but this is a moment in time where we have to get rid of the sequester and I know that the Koch network and I know that the Club for Growth they're all banging on you but we have to get rid of the sequester have you sat down in the caucus are you in a violent the Hastert rule to bring this forward or I don't think we would only will need to I think we're going to be fine so I don't worry about that because look at discretionary spending especially the military that's not our fiscal problem we actually cut the military a lot in the Obama years so I'm not worried discretionary spending is not the debt driver it is in title that's Yes and that is why again the House passed the biggest head of reform bill in history when we passed our Obamacare bill unfortunately which was a huge and cattlemen reform bill unfortunately the Senate didn't pass it we're going to work another entitlement issues this year we've got to go back and looking at these other entitle ments but it's the entitlements that need to be reformed if we're going to deal with the debt and the military is not the massive fiscal culprit around here that's the driver of our debt it is the fact that baby boomers are retiring we're not prepared for retirement and these 20th century programs like Medicare need to be modernized so they can fulfill their mission without breaking the bank and that's what we got to work on coming up when Trump during the State of the Union speech was reading about a black male unemployment they have they have a legitimate beef if you're talking about labor force participation rate but what would they do about Larry Elder when we return for the final segment of the town hall revue. 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Welcome back to the town hall review on you here shortly after the president January State of the Union address he went to Ohio to deliver a speech here's my colleagues Larry Elder assessment President Trump in Ohio said that the people who didn't stand during the State of the Union speech were un-American somebody shouted out treasonous and President Trump appear to agree and it got to a point where I really didn't even want to look too much during the speech over to that site because honestly it was bad energy no it's bad energy you're up there you've got half the room going totally crazy while they love everything they want to do something great for a country and you have the other side even on positive news really positive news like that. They were like death. And un-American un-American somebody is a treasonous I mean just why not. Now we call that treason why not I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country very much but you look at that and it's it's really very very sad and of course the people over it innocently he hobbled absolutely bad to leap I will say this about Trump taking credit for the unemployment rate for blacks the real number to look at is labor force participation rate the smaller the worse the bigger the better and for the last 3 or 4 years the labor force participation rate for blacks has been going up but it is still extremely low and that's a consequence of a number of things not least of which is the fact that nearly 50 percent of inner city blacks drop out of high school those who do graduate often cannot read writing computer at grade level so when the Black Congressional Caucus sat on their hands when Trump during the State of Union speech was bragging about black low unemployment they have they have a legitimate beef if you're talking about labor force participation rate but what would they do about it what would their suggestion be that's my problem I think that to both have a Smiley and Cornel West when they came in and they were doing that poverty tour I said Ok what's your plan what's your what's your prescription. And there's nothing other than spend more money well is spending more money what if your poverty should be insured under Obama here's what he said about how blacks fared during Obama administration I'm sad to report that in every single meeting economic category but after America has lost ground over the last decade in every major economic category we've lost ground but it is true and over these last 10 years most of that on his watch Black America has lost ground in the major economic indicator category and this is why President. Of the black vote. Thank you for joining us for the town all of you catch up on episodes on our Web site dot com subscribe to our podcast while you're there and never miss an episode National Bank executive producer Russell Shulman producer Charlie Richard David Posey and. 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