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Um who are in residence for the French Academy in rome satirical weekly that an auction in reviewing movie actors you today it was nominated by decree just before christmas to be in rome on tuesday press conference. Watch live by four million tv viewers in france huge numbers for that time of day. Equally parked the interests of the Foreign Press in the court at a dvd this tuesday night. Janice get depressed reactions to the president s speech allegations of vote on having an affair dominated french coverage of the Foreign Press for days correspondents were divided over whether the president said enough on sunday to remember the press conference to sarkozy. Recently a serious but kyla least he said something i dont think he was the daily said. Kevin continues to talk about dates was a bit sad and thinking all the nukes in finland some typical see it different if he had started to get into those details they would stay donuts and it would have turned into a circus so the dude has to do with the newly seated on a long speech was devoted to frances economy but he didnt convince some reporters present. Then follows the law is as discovers that a niece to reduce its spending spree well its return rates it is unfit to command the hour that i did find peace and scoring fifty redux of its heels in love. Thats the biggest name just one single time you ask. Its not very safe. But between our own economic announcement i met up with an around the state. It was k which was going to hit International Headlines when its the morning. This is just a john kerrys down to will work with the willing participants were committed to peace his reaction to the Israeli Defense minister slamming his current efforts in the middle east mostly a gal on says since apologized for remarks that drew sharp rebuke from the white house with the unit that we are respect israel Prime Minister netanyahu and i talk regularly and we are both very committed to moving the process forward. And im you know we just cant let one set of comments to undermine that effort and i dont intend to. The princess to come down on two days of voting in egypt in the coming hour. This for a new constitution that rolls back changes made by the now banned Muslim Brotherhood its the preamble to a probable run for president by the head of the military. All marked by high turnout in parts. An active boy caden others pockets of deadly violence and hundreds of arrests more to come in a few minutes in the mossman can today. In syria the United Nations says nearly half the population is now in need of assistance. Hence a donors conference in kuwait. When un secretary generals announced two point four billion dollars in pledges. Or we are the runners even though we have reason to think that this is an increase of four one year ago or so when gideon dollars compared with last year. Its as if that isnt that the crises that needs all this occasion has increased opening day the trial of four men charged with aiding and abetting last septembers attack at rubys Westgate Mall. Packed courthouse in kenyas capital security guards be counted the confusion reigned at the start of the siege that left sixty seven dead and forgotten in an attack claimed by somalias ok doing ill sure bob militiamen its been a one month exactly since tensions between south sudans president is former Vice President escalated into an ethnically charged civil war the death toll since escalated dramatically. Most of those killed civilians the every morning absence refugee camp in the south sudanese cups in Cuba Children line up of the gates ready for wad. They can earn up to find sudanese pounds of just under your and the whole thing will buy our goods across the sites. On thursdays labor at the time he walks back to the makeshift homes. With any rewards points in the camp of seventeen thousand tonnes more arriving every day everyone has happened to me that haunts the stream runs through the comp. But its pollutants. Its filled with rubbish and human waste midfield tennis and the warts is still used to wash plates. Comes the plane some ten thousand south sudanese the fulton been killed and placing the civil war for counting the samba band. The only boiled surprise and celtic in touch with supports is a former Vice President s react michelle disease on the plate and food supplies. Now hop humanitarian agencies calling out to greet the International Support right now were relying on food that weve been pre positioned in south sudan for other activities. But moving forward rather than me at least fifty seven Million Dollars but likely more in order to assist the conflict affected people. Insecurity was a major challenge for the country even before the conflict began. Some sixty percent of the population is inaccessible by rights under the new sign of an end to the violence and the rainy season on the horizon the clock is ticking to reach them idea. Gang has warned of quill calamities and disasters washington and seoul push ahead with a series of annual joint military drills next month meanwhile south korean activists have launched by a balloon. Half a million anti north leaflets but was unjustly flats transistor radios and usb keys loaded but the korean language version of wicked pdf the phillies might smile to look threatening. According to north korea. Releasing them as a foolish act by warmongers. Thats because then filled with messages detailing alleged human rights abuses by pyongyang be the struggle for freedom and north korea is as important as a struggle for freedom everywhere else and this is a very innovative way. On the controversial for short the innovative way of getting information and hacking the north korean regime lindsay carrying some five hundred thousand leaflets on fifteen hundred usb sticks glued into the korean language version of word to pdf. They also include u s dollar bills. The reds comes transistor radios. Around ninety five percent of North Koreans dont have access to mobile phones. Will the country strictly controlled the internets this latest ons was carried out by south korean activists in the border town of taji and pasta to use the creek and others have been trying to introduce material and technology into north korea which pyongyang considers confidant dog and twenty Million People live in north korea could bring down a gear ratio one at that. The south Korean Police this previously and false pounds on such launches. Both horses are concerned it could provide compliance response from the countrys neighbors. In oakley about a north korean government represents a war they would score its the last time england to the south korean army. In response towards its coles psychological wolf. Thats all and isnt it time for now but stay with us the false bank debt today is next. And seated on the sixth round of voting since the fall of causing dark nearly three years ago. This time the constitutional referendum in some parts to be cautious but supporters of the now banned Muslim Brotherhood in others. High turnout with citizens cheering on its expected to be the first step to elected head of the army s president s citizens seem to turn the page from the islamic sleds and governments of the now jailed the home and more see is the misc. Or are themselves divided with the sell off its signing with the yes vote can see why. When asked whats next for political islam in the arab worlds most populous state. More broadly was to hit square in the first ever election of a civilian president of egypt in the year hiatus. Today the falls and gets to be masking the sea and spring is already over there with us to talk about it from cairo. Yes the farouk who teaches Political Science at Cairo University. Thank you for being with us. Im here in the studio. Muhammad al alfie moon and is a political economy consultant thank you for being with us to keep um anti collectivist of money on harvey is also the distance for joining us in. And from london. Hes the author of the arabs. Eugene broken either in Arts Commission said. Director of the middle east center at Oxford University thank you for being with us the frustrated today we can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. Our pastor asked to court today. This beginning cairo and go to correspondent catherine stately catherine and yesterday it was sad since im new at the midway point today vote on this front revenue described enthusiasm at the polling stations geffen said i tweet been sucky saying the same kind of npc us and i mean people here in the spreading station where i am in an upscale neighborhood of cairo called me up and its been very keen to talk to us very keen to tell us why they wanted to come up but im dead. Pretty much everybody least i can see his sad that that the team gets all these referendum on this constitution and its not about the constitution price i e that site its about moving the country fall what its about bringing stability and security and an end to three years of political turmoil in protest and that it was they also said if they meet the economy to the income statement again and they feel that this referendum great at it and it would of guessed that will enable that to happen and i think a summit this week the plaintiff being that this is a nationalistic tt of the field to tp to come out of bed to some of the present station sweet scene at that wed be driving right kyra today they have god speak is with us. Ive been mostly sticks stones and daring added the sliced the kids beat the defending team in a decade at a gypsy sites and also pressed as auntie ali chief janet up to the fcc its quite a Party Atmosphere and people are bringing their families. Add to that. Now in terms of numbers that im not really today it doesnt seem as big as yesterday and thats what the judge of this particular painting station has told us he is claiming that the ten at him as cutting station is around fifty percent but that meant coma at the local connection mum and sis assignment for all ate some land between nineteen fourteen percent but its still the ntuc as unsightly among the guests a taste for thirty to forty per cent. How does that. Of these with previous votes. Well its that last constitution that which was then that the senator last referendum on the constitution was in december twenty twelve that was of cos on the hms constitution drawn up by ed at it and that muhammad marcs presidency it was set one up by a mainly an islamist dominated tunnel indiana at that time and that was that shed be around sixteen to thirty three percent of the oath rtc are looking up is more than that and that means that they will have a resounding yes tuesday at legitimacy of them ousting mohamad mostly back in july. Once again the enthusiasm catherine describing called palpable despite the sometimes deadly violence weve witnessed over the last forty eight hours on the article unhappy. We are so excited to win it. It was really good dancing and singing when i said yes because egypt must say. Then i look like the lcct president of the nevada constitution doesnt represent me. It was written by the ban the bomb or more cycles from the vampire. It was. Eric asked me are one dissenting voice there. More broadly catherine you describe the enthusiasm he came to his vote among those that are voting. Whats the overall tone of the debate three years after the ouster of anbar where you are todt you can remove the dep night on this referendum on this constitution that its the few scenic campaigning leading up to this but i ran the streets of cairo its really just post this at telling people to vote yes in anybody trying to put out anything encouraging people to buy them at a number of activists were arrested and doing side out of the Muslim Brotherhood calls to boycott saying this but can they staged a number of protests in the past couple of days and of course said there were a number of People Killed during this protest yesterday at where i am is just two kilometers from the president ial palace and daddy are on today i ran five hundred to as supporters of the us to president muhammad my seat i tried to get to that president ial palace to stage a demonstration and the us by the pond and by the Security Forces with key gas and Water Cannons and they then discussed the general feeling really it is set to and this has been propagated by the media is that if you vote yes in your patriots but then a few bites know at all you like college they knew it i said to teach in fact his protests that have stood mohamad mostly from power. Mary catherine steeply many think so. For that update those polls closing. In cairo and elsewhere across egypt of lets turn to some of the rest of our panel begin with you gasping for him to inquire of the existing isnt too discreet to ask you if you voted afa. I think are the kind that i did alright and what will be what are your thoughts about about this particular book because it sounds a lot listening to our correspondent. But it wasnt a referendum on a constitution but more a plebiscite on the Muslim Brotherhood. Yes of course many of the stack and i headed to mc of the fifth of july cool and add because i need to ask anyone who has nothing to do with education and that it has nothing to do with it so shut up and cast on so that people in line today to vote whether they add the constitution on together or whether they had the other point of view. I bet the people who would vote no you attend you know were doing it because as you can spend a cent out of patriotism because few months abby wants egypt to move on because we tried one year of terrible. A Muslim Brotherhood jordan and no its not about substance its about the process its about more is happening right now. You called to speak of the job in july a third crew can you explain for viewers while that over for selected d haha i know its its pretty risky to call it a cool bright out here in egypt but its about the need to chase taking over the government to oversee when muhammad mercy and even if the hum and marcs government and bureaucracy was not that it was not the society testament and the sense that they were not connected to the commodore seems that was connected to what i mean what are we a green or so for the Muslim Brotherhood or not. Was he was elected he was overthrown by committees on the third of july and i am and ten president s took over with the government. However neither see a bright sunny jane hes being im stewing for a number of crimes that he adds. What they need to prove that he has committed and i am not to the brotherhood than not i wear it under the government of the sunshine off and on since mtv. Add that i was not too windy up with and the overthrow of the utmost in the third of july by the manatees. Im a no fee to the reaction and your reaction to something our correspondent says catherines deeply about tearing down posters urging the no votes and really is no debate going on right now in egypt will they do a photo of tdp is meant to be but this is not to lucas and he should do what someone said to be cleaned is going to say yes because eager to feed up was the use of skates. And when she said. Many people interested. Yes many people arrested we knew was going to look at who has a fourteen percent. And dion has questions you can see his aunt mel. But if you would have missed it if you want kinds of people it outside to see is up now. The main problem what are your thoughts about people tearing down Campaign Posters that are urging a no vote. No one no one to one. Now was conceived as a tool that will fly to ca. Say no. Was this constitution. As as six am many of the skies mankind ppm pages advise people to see. He is four for the stability of security the father of four development and depending on the future diplomas so as appliances different but some on wall streets egyptians would like to see this because really if he would get the idea. The use of caves and who talk about the percentage of people in our wonderful state it has a focus and confusion as in all laws and fifty two million sq the abstract rights of all american connections. But as a percentage. We will acknowledge up but i think to the mall friday. When seaweed that announce the final visits but i think i think it will exhibit some of the people of looking at but i am all of the book is of no cost was a fun visit turned out to daddy as you think i have cousins and aunt and taken his own. It was awsome two thousand plants. It is i think twenty two. More and im hard at your reaction is that the idea okay. Yes there has been debate but you still do the right to vote no when you go inside the polling station to talk about democracy. I think i peed on everyone has the freedom of expression. Saying no to the stricken possible effort as he sat like it. This means that single is being treated so thats. Throwing away one didnt look or think of propaganda. First lets take a knee. Justin with his agreement with mr and abandoning them sorry. It was awesome. To disagree being set up the front entry is i mean we would spend sixty eight. And the dude that made it seem. If i a was compared both of these two. I think theyre the sixty years would be much higher. The second point. Twenty two mm i want to make him a pen and heat oven to two were of the situation since said the third of july. Well have more than the one which does not keep a kid or the position. And today for talks with a wee wee. It doesnt even use it to you. I bought something that you are going up on sentences the thinnest animal models and some incense and get a kick six it is not his mom but anyway. Today we overcome the situation with companies in the race for which the un if we use them. In this position. Oh yes were within that have to tune to know if we are with the Muslim Brotherhood was six apron was that economists know today would have been that the regime. When we found more than twenty thousand people in the rest was fun to dream. Thus the net thats that. Im getting keep the change and amended the constitution. Looking into jail. The president was elected smith said. I will have hers and she has been the system was well its almost anything. He is in the previous month on cement in egypt. Getting to be noticed. I am today. Isnt that so long wanted to write the way of art i wanted to be i am here for democracy when i sew with an elite unit less time for a way with six apron i am happy to see ally because any any team can sing it in. In a democracy need an opposition to the legal position the concert date. And if that sounds cool. They asked far more see the wild the military courts and its in the end of an eye opening and there isnt one. One sentence. We get there the third of july is that you can drop the thing we dont want much to get yes i agree. Now the deadliest in the country like they said that sixty years was eliminated in the day of the house and able to sing this at all we need to be the only economy the state ive mentioned here. You mentioned sixty years that i might belong to one or bring a new team broken on this in a dingy we have a comment from some of your estate agent will vote yes to the new constitution. But i dont think it will bring stability when you look at at the long queue at this particular point in time whats what are your thoughts when you hear the debate that were happening. Though the state has really shown me it is probably its most polarized moment in modern history. I think the division of the egyptians and feeling between the e string. But it showed the polls after the twenty eleven revolution competence in english or in the military to try and restore equilibrium to try and bring back all in order to the streets to become unruly. Among the egyptian people along their political majority. What they want most is not Political Freedoms. To have an Economic Security the two feuding that is revolutionary experience is is really not all that is talked into being. Today i dont think that every voting on constitution i think people are casting is for change change. They seem to want to return to the stability of the military order. This is not constitutional vote and will result from this is not the kind of Political Freedoms that i can teach actions. Most polluting it with coconut tree. So for instance to do the and are getting food on the table and then of freedom said artistically question for for you gasping for all before we go to the break. As of wednesday the cairo stock market reaching its highest point since three years ago in fact since the day one tunisia is president was overthrown. What are your thoughts on that this uses of the markets are also voting yes. Yes of course given that sound like its been witnessing a meaning to stop the political heat on toast the political coalition. I dont need to respect the audio find a lot of the members of the losing team. And those members of the origin team into its eyes and businessmen. And of the economic and today the economic effect was there on the move iraqi team are back to the states openly and explicitly and the scent of people who are on the present and active in the egyptian stock market so it is not a surprise. Plus i mean. You know my door. College is done you have some said the team that is based on anime despite the demonstrations despite them. One or two moms here and that thats where id eat any good or bad two weeks to live it. Repression is bringing back some kind of stability especially in the economy especially the ironic major institutions. So on this was not stated that the stock market. I read pick up on that when we come back and also see some of the other players that are calling for a yes no think with this elephants will see will see why i stayed with us here watching the falls and dad today. Down to earth. I went down to it in and around one this is that it is based in countries like the tropical my heart. My attractive and not wanting to do that if you think the sleeping here and dont i. Today a summation of protecting the animals. Not long ago that with toys and choose the content of this biased in sa. Dont tell her husband kept posting dot com it makes a false leg and keeps you up to date with all the latest from the world of sport. All the action. All the results of all the emotion chilling got anything for his all round muslims like and dont know the sea the mini digital kits but not now. Want one. Why is that. The dead. Three. I i. I know. It is. Many. In you. A cost on a trip to st kitts was an everyday. Because breaking new School Leagues so much. When situations. So too. Just that. Use. While khan. If you just joining us for the sins of all spent yet to be said of the stores more opinions with the phone with the top of the hour the incentive to stay. Time to press on with the peace process. This entities in the defence ministers apology for blasting john kerry. As for the messianic the peace framework pundits he could speak now. Donors pledged billions to syria as the United Nations warns anyhow war torn countrys population is no need of assistance. He passed measure the courthouse. Your security guards describe the foreign confused. This on opening day the Westgate Mall accomplices time. Praise him through and also performs vote on change of direction on taxes and spending socialist president even earning grudging praise from French Business leaders to change attack. So overshadowed in the media by one all its handling of intimate affair. I know. All are. Welcome back welcome if you just joining us this is the fault of intense debate on the second and final day of a referendum on a constitution that rolls back changes made under the now banned Muslim Brotherhood were talking about a half that in all likelihood it could lead to a president ial run by the head of the army general cc with is to talk about it from cairo. Gasping for ruth who was an advisor and her two governments since the overthrow of possible that she teaches Political Science at Cairo University economist said Mohamed El Al feet. It is with us. As his aunt eco activist Inland Harbor freight reviews and from Oxford University eugene broken author of the arabs and islam is studded with this referendum we talked in part one about how its a plebiscite on the Muslim Brotherhood. Um its awesome to a certain degree. You might say a plebiscite on political Islam Islamists themselves to fight to the south is no more party calling for a yes folks the era from the monotony of protein a constitutional articles on the road map of the road. The new epoxy was there since the beginning to pop in the constituent assembly gave its opinion on the other opinions. I realized the seriousness of the Current Situation and understood the potential gravity of egypts few weeks the on call for them and then behind in the hospital due to an audience and we also see that moving away from the constitutional amendments would lead to chaos. All these factors affected the end we talked his position. And we can confirm that not only are we say yes but we hope with all egyptians would also focus of this and not in the megastar within that must mean were not. Jim rogan have had he explained is divided among islamists. Miller has been. A party. Its all along. She recognizes realities as an outstanding Business Party that stands against military face the future of the Muslim Brotherhood. As the no is one of the new comers to tyrants and regions. The revolution and i think his meteoric rise is largely attributable to the very generous funding it receives from saudi arabia which has also put its money behind the new regime in egypt. So while it has been overtaken line that would indicate. Each of you rulers its own partys funding saudi arabia. And i think in that sense we could only be expected to make the kind of falls and or stupid it may be her friend and that prices of benefactors eugene drove him there in our tactical lyon says. But beyond that and islamists feel about the role of religion in politics is there are also divided on that issue within egypt certainly weve really learned since twenty eleven there are many different Political Tendencies islamists. The marriage between some of this lake is the norm. The is for all the centrist Muslim Brotherhood or even field full of life in italy. Last wednesday i think that you have been a very different political agendas and has been doing some of these cool that they will be once a leading role in shaping the social agenda. Egypt that will once again be under military rulers. Social agenda thats it thats an important point on and moslem brotherhood of peanuts on. Its not just and that has been driven underground the assets of Islamic Charities have been frozen Authorities Say theyre often used to fund militant activities. Now for instance one cairo hospital saying that its running out of money the Association Says all the sectors of the egyptian. It closes because the bill puts restrictions on them. Then they must provide the services themselves that i cant even stay tuned the dollar. Your thoughts on this. Muhammad of the week to see closing down or freezing the assets of charities run hospitals that too. With eugene real world and this has been so involved in the social agenda. And ten the government and the military pick up the slack. I am supposed to know that so we can see facing color coding is on cease to act as his companys stations because to quote loan fund came from is the way. This is. If said if serving as a people its ok if a hat. Using was a satanic organization. Use it as a mother that he will get the money came from a new little ovals on tuesday at an aide to abbas against egyptians like a lot like what the im going to finance at the uns that ernest l systems to grow as a member of the status to go to the local kid he went on to tumble bombs into it the inside egypt. So of course we must focus on the inside of them and went on to see on this waffles and instead of a Stable Funding to the citizens deserve the win now. You just heard from eugene broken how this out if this were urging yes in this vote. They have funding from outside from saudi arabia. The problem all about them and someone came to kentucky at eight pm. We of the uk france. The problem in money helpful in looking at how he would use this money. That is the main problem sometimes sometimes but not the summit in some tentative organizations. Oh was fought for and get fond of photons is that some visits abroad among the problem lol. But the problem we have to use this money beyond using committee to act to save it the blog. Cool to have a pool to use this money to walk against people can sense a kind designs. I want to win the asian and asian accent and communicate that this a joke months on from sa get into the cake was an easy was taken money from cookie cutter from the income of sundays edition of was the buzz of note as well. It is not a big problem the problem is. What are you doing this is funny. I want numbers to win when some of his seat. This is in the sb is it because it allowed the fine agenda the national agenda. I can deal with the egyptian people. Second this as assembling felt like about the audience meaning of funk said. Its a small black businessmen. Dont know what a weekend called anyones this move by businessman is a setback businessman causes massive businessman is egyptian businessman andy in the us yesterday and today sunday is an egyptian stock market has achieved a one billion euros. Today one bananas. Then they can stay within feel they are the strongest day is ending tonight and it is a ban on military aid to egypt that can affect the flow. And relations with egypt to zachs to my writing and ezra saying a polarized debate read it and polarize is well among viewers. Radical justice saying yes to this referendum is unknown to any chance of democracy in egypt just unfurled it is that it is that the case is is a yes to this referendum unknown to any chance of democracy in egypt. And i strongly disagree because i knew the constitution has never been the benchmark has been so in two thousand and twelve i mean the way the Muslim Brotherhood in two thousand and twelve for marketing vs for their constitution which was on the substance not that bad actually. In the same as what is done right now. They did not stop the crowds from taking to this piece on the thirteenth of june to say no to the brotherhood who actually deviating from the path of the twentieth of january evolution. So knowing that the constitution as it is not about the constitution its about whats going to happen to the constitution was going to govern this country. What a day that institutions the state institutions will be a green minutes whether there will be free and Fair Elections whether their oppression. By the ministry of interior with diminished or not whether vicinity of movements when the avatar that nonsense to form a powerful political parties. Not in order to mobilize people on the ground these are the stakes but the constitution may very well be the first step. I mean you have people who once where amongst the ranks of that whats called the evolutionary so are those who took to the streets on the twentieth of january two thousand and eleven. You are at number two with amenities because they are saying that i end up in the constitution by institutionalized in your rights and they got the new laws. This is how you are going to in pool was a transition towards democracy to impose the respective rights and freedoms. So next time when he and andy can just run down this path. This may be out to you by the time so what is at stake here is not the answer no to the constitution it says what are we going to do after the constitution. We have another fewer air wing in the two thousand thirteen egypt constitution seats at every chance to place the present the military the judiciary above elected civilian oversight boy at heart. As if its the other things the monarchy not to interrupt my endless beach secondly the idea i agree with was this early which was said by mr pidgeon world. Our percent. The first of all of this edifice. Unlike caution courtney occasion using them now twenty one seat in this constitution. Secondly with which is most importantly i put them on this today. I am that the new baby is eating whats hot whats happening today is cheap and easy cookbook and democracy into it. We see it with if we dont see it its quite difficult. As with reference to his work is beyond what is invalid and baritone and valid basis will always keep on an invalid. Instructor. If you have a run. These men dunedin one bending is wrong to date. What resulted is not what the constitution even if it is. In the constitution. Not like they were very weekend that acts like a minute then he really had that im forces made it worse is when you chew with their own. See dont you just need enough roots point that this was on paid millions of people that i was honest i agree with that with the resisting a police vehicle. She said that theyre confident and friends i have been removed. Yes yes by the people yes im a degree but the problem is that in two thousand and two and the regime. I was not as strong as the day we still receive continued to date that you have the three forces them to remain cool color forces in the music that did justice to the police and the military they are that they are like thats trying to make this a nail down one bit of confusion. So tomorrow is the solution is not like moving to the bottom is the Muslim Brotherhood doesnt he understand the difference. You have eyes at me again. And reese team behind this on to something so cool. She led the consortium that will be a concession is moving energy and till today. If you want to move the fourteen area constitution. The cool dude that made a three d and i dont agree with it was just me because im thinking the big dead in the uk is what we have been facing twenty five of the gentry and we didnt execute the basic save the paper and economists are often imprisoned and we are waiting to see what will happen. On the feet while its true that the word. Its been often employed for egypt is this notion of what they call the deep state that is to say. Russias military has people around the military who have their hands in business interests and in certain prominent posts and that this was what was supposed to go with the width of the ouster of mubarak and how it was a late does this look that as a sikh submission of a lot to ease his head down to the state to state that set up and eighteenth and published by the mosque and the bull by the hymns thats not the uk its okay. He doesnt want his day and night. Dan seals line. Whats it like that its the people it believes that in the deep state of being content in future. It is the optimal zealands to publish lies on the muzzle on doesnt it seem all of of them cause i dont really see it as is and what doesnt people are really nice and sixty three. Mendez. As i pick the ones the streets im not getting the team went into the presidency of the modest home in time and mossy. The applicant above them oppressing the people are now one of the agent to book today. Yes it is at an institution he said. We injected is that. Its been on religion. His actions religion when fuels. Many bring an apron and eugene rogan on this. Eugene. This notion in algeria the club while the power that be in egypt the deep state is in a conspiracy or is there really such a thing i think were talking about conspiracies you just the realities and the reality is nineteen fifty two military intentions our politics and egypt. I knew instantly it was not true teacher the luncheon is referred to the interior ministry which is where i tell you from. The revolution in chief to be misconstrued or a meltdown right thing to his death is the extraordinary example of the country since twenty oh nine has gone through internal crazy its been engaged in a process that is in the revolution try and move it warrants the transformation of the country. Is it with the constitution. The doctor that will be two conditions for which reflects a very long period of deliberation the process in which the very important compromises made between. Another Party Secular parties. Secularism is parking lot has changed nature. I think it will result is a constitution that insurance. Below is a country in the arab world. It is whats going on in egypt has been eighty eight the failure of the constitutional process to bring about meaningful institutional change in egypt will it prove that the rule of law. Proving Citizenship Rights over the power of the military and the twenty eleven let me ask you this is the same over and tunisia lawmakers others to voting on a new constitution they were unable to finish before tuesdays third anniversary of the toppling of denali the two thirds the way through the process fractious often silly at times lonely there is this cleo a toll road map. A lot of people thinking that whats going on inside ofis. Anow im the sorth e h o polical gridlock is ptlyt the example of a ships crew i will call or two along with the other speakers who were found in this case means of overturning a democratically elected leader conforms to do it. Whatever we say about teachers wrote it is fundamentally different stitches taken away the process that has really characterize teaches institute of clinical change so my question. Im sorry that damascus is i qstion usually weould we want to send his regime. Im sorry to ask you this question met them. Can you call him. Th rese today. The regime. Im a minister of defense. Whats the solution us that the president andut them in pj the state over the ships control i practiced democracy in kenya causes democracy because if it exists in american and uk. I like the continent a new day i saw these. Its hard to defend democracy. I am asking you if the state museum is on trial in this country backing the opposition. Looking at a cheaper price than the optimal currency today can you call this a democracy our prices are expected and even a small extent of democracy. Who can answer your question. Granted the beach for three years at the High School Parents buy it. Thank you very deeply bound to egypt and i hope for more. I dont think that the word democracy really as much power residence for average Egyptian Security due to be. That is democracy that is goingo do that before youll notice that i would like to see her in Church Rather than talk about is this democracy or not. As an agent move towards a situation. It really is the minimum. The minute they can then again in the democratic process in the world. Thats why i only said ok these people on and on and on the borderlands and you would agree with me. It may seem today is long and busy with new ones new ones i feel a bit and saw the need for me seeing the temple anyway i am i not this then is the menopause then is not a genie and anthems exception handling. I meant. This guy has a fake id. I was picking up took this picture. Ie i do not like the kind of composition and make a photo when you look at when you look and i wasnt the one book and a devotion to set the mittens insists that its cost and the mongols and the homes of friends andy and eliminate second an immense the dancing. Must be obeyed the faces of people the optional. I couldnt even think to say were going to make one. He said. I love in. The and for fun. Look what i can stand me know he said. My mom just one i have to mention any of the egyptian and me today now i can submit that the city and the city. Nancy reagan. And yes one of the zach and i wanted to use you in the eugene who was saying that to what what what is your hope. Eugene rogue and we were with the jr train of thought that what is your hope. For where egypt will go very briefly. Is it because i dont eat people have a great deal of confidence in the idea of democracy i dont think that holds much power over the average voter. Each saturday from any democracy activists is to be my hope for the ships is that the country can move towards a system with the rule of law will be privileged the rights of citizens will be protected. What worries me most about the turn that has todays referendum isst. With overseeing a system in which the president. Once presenting second innings of three genes that. It is cute sentiment to come and we wanted a time. Eugene rover gilberts be called the constitution today is a privilege and the powers of the military. The police and judiciary. We run the risk of seeing more sites where you may remember was the only one really good at least before the outbreak in revelation twenty eleven is precisely to move away from the arbitrary exercise of our respect for the rule of law and the protection of citizens under the state. I hope are all egyptians because of my love for your country. This means for open every minute that this point. Um right now were even be said of the three talks throughout this discussion about what exactly egyptians were voting about what was motivating him to go to the polls are to stay away from the polls. In your view what is is it possible that in egypt as anytime soon there will be an aspiration to have western style democracy. Im a while exercise democracy and you just democracy just as professor at the ais is eugene set up. Julia had the rule of law where the freedoms and rights of people i respect it beats doing democracy beats who havent any other system of government be told i needed to bring democracy back in to date indicates a ten to fifteen years to be born find just the tip roast the kits that i never ending tour so nice and just remind you i never expect that of the political transition to those who see i never expected it to take the penalty is or seems that mean. The stingy mom to this political system that was a bit. Our resident since nineteen fifty two. The more my team team by two sets of data but said that nasr state for thirty years how could he expect it to transform them into democracy. She is going to do two years with the seven of opportunity education. None existent into comedic into non existant political content to take a stand. Excuse me but i mean because im a urine test to it was saying that im. It is more difficult right now for the twenty thirteen constitution than twenty two out because right now to have the old system who is with those who are mourning right now. This is what the brotherhood tried to do in two thousand and twelve they tried to write a constitution. What happened while compromising with amenities at the ministry of interior with the judiciary of course back then there was inducted into the city was good but its so it would take time and now i am not. Maybe im just need for Something Like it today. Not less than a whole generation before we see that one of the top before we seek. I miss you maintain current the phone with even the density is reduced to a role in defence saxony and out of politics and just to highlight one point since i sat here reading this interview yesterday in the fleet and the one that i mentioned previously on fostering touch of words with the government of the stem and get into the bread and a brother with wheat in some kind or in some ways we needed intervention of an intense game where the winds of war had these institutions up from falling down will prevent the anti violence in the month in violence in the streets of cairo. But the alcohol content than entities. How can the region was no progressive politics and economics. Now this is what this plant is at stake. And one final comment of which is from one of the viewers like mom was saying. Democracy is always messy and uncertain or think yes mean for routine cairo using broken in oxford i also wanted to go home and no alfie and ny at heart for this spirited discussion more to come on egypt at the top of the hour an infusion is boltons right here on cost and cap. I was the eighty six. They want the deal. Why is that. I did when did. Three. Its been or. And. It is. Eye. Session. Steve. Coming off an artsy all morning about some Graphic Photos released today by the website tmz. They show what looks like u s marines and burning of bonnies of iraqi insurgents. More on this just ahead. And although many West Virginians residents have been given permission to drink the water some are silly ari eighteen law says that surfacing and the Company Responsible for the week. More on that later in

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