Is the eu counterparts. Also this hour germanys chancellor of grammatical skills a grand Coalition Deal will see her start governing the center of west rivals this very week go to ruin the moment. For instance full control. Mr consulted hours south of here. After a group of soldiers and politicians attempt to overthrow the government. I do. Stall states are getting hired scenes and time could be running out for ukraines president of pics on between east and west. This post. Eu protesters to camp out and scared for twenty six day and the European Union. Showing signs he could pull the plug on a train to brussels where a victory and co which is tuesday trip to moscow and a cool beach feeling the heat even from within his own cap more than a month or just on standing strong on the barricades. Protests are in their fourth week ago showing no signs of slowing down despite the freezing temperatures. I came here to defend my childrens future on the telly and say i can say my knife when it gets and thats that. As i want my children and my grandchildren in europe. I didnt want them to see it on tv i will continue the next. Protesters initially wanted ukraine to sign a cooperation deal with you. And now they are also want the government to step down and really parliamentary and president ial elections be held. The first talks between ukrainian president s victory in college and the opposition failed on friday. In a bid to defuse the political crisis a lawmaker from the ruling party announced it had demanded the sweeping Cabinet Reshuffle that the prime ministers resignation was not mentioned. Two more equipment everyone knows what again the resignation of government. We just hope that the coming days before the president s trip to moscow should be concise chemical that is said to me to his russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on tuesday to discuss a Partnership Treaty protesters have already planned a major rally on that same day. Its officially sign for her third term as chancellor uncle merkel. To lead a grand coalition with germanys Main Opposition Party the social democrats whove been ratified by the boom to stock up on tuesday the cdu leader on getting a cabinet that includes a few surprises. A toast to celebrate germanys grand coalition. After three months apart from negotiations at the center left spd has going bungalow merkels conservative Christian Democratic Union and its Bavarian Sister Party the ctu. As expected his pt readers see where the embryo becomes vice chancellor shell also have a new combined economy and energy ministry. We went to the coalition which was good that the tenant will have to hear a thing that was cheap and one. The new cabinet as we conservatives and six social democrats. His piece from Walter Steinmeier becomes foreign minister and john he held in merkels first government from two thousand fine to two thousand and nine. The social democrats also get the portfolios for libra family environment and justice pis he used were some lavender lane becomes defense minister. The first woman to ever hold the post called and showed the close merkel airline will remain as finance minister and was acquitted on a grand coalition is accommodation for the twenty oh nine is in line together we want to make sure that people are naturally not much going on seventeen. Even better off today. Thank you for me there are three major tasks ahead. The solid finances the future prosperity and Social Security with god besides maintaining germanys economy as the strongest in europe the new government will also make sure the rest of the eurozone stakes to tough budgetary guidelines on tuesday. Merkel will formally be sworn in for a third term whats going on to berlin correspondent jessica salts jessica a first ever female defense this are all the talk is about to force a move on their way up. Shes even seen i understand as a possible successor one based on political yes i am thinking if i can hang them up in the sand. And that too has become quite an eye the theme of defensemen. Many theater it hasnt been an apparent to head to the cdu concrete edifice any stand up and out of control with caden. In the media today announced an unofficial media and that can cause a fuss when its in effect an analysis. I did notice that as a salute to the main cause. The physician media and the bonding moments texas today in germany and many people think and live in london happened is that theres any nine cents when im sixteen now sold it on and on defense. By the end in this case its a testament to how i needed god to shape it into policy. Im not saying that it will be to occur both exciting and challenging for the next time i see the note is that it does seem that important instruction of the peninsula at the next baby as well as the court at six ten soldiers from afghanistan and used it successfully. This will be at the credits. It is consults many things for the disc assaults. Reporting from berlin. While the snow melts after an unusual mideast winter storm parts of gaza remain underwater for days to rental rates forcing more than five thousand from their own. Hse israeli and Lebanese Army officers in a meeting with un peacekeepers this after israel accused lebanese troops of gunning down one of its soldiers as he drove near the border late sunday the first such killing along the border with lebanon in more than three years. In sauces and the leader says that it was again see the cool of the fighting that was witnessed on sunday the coup attempt. Rather we should say. And that it has now been four in the countrys president has called it a two day time now so see don is on lock down clashes between rival traipse recount in a barracks in the countrys capital juba on sunday night. Presence of the can down the national currency. As of monday the above is a community and beyond im never going to love. Tuesday i need to see caden. Shortly before midnight on sunday had begun my was hacked around the capital prompting some eight hundred civilians to seek refuge in the un compounds. Thousands along the bay leaf to the flag that hangs. There are many many people who run a week. There are also people who have been killed. There was a women with a bp and the baby was shocked that i need to reach on monday military strikes and joined the president and saying they were in full control of the situation at present can meanwhile accused his former Vice President and the rivalry can shock of being behind the finance unit and to its credit the current government. South zedong gained sovereignty in july two thousand and eleven treat people but it is overwhelmingly to split from the north. Since then the countrys been plagued by political unrest and into ethnic fine team. And thats all the news we have time for this our stay with us the falls and gets them to be his next thing on falls into call. Theres a certain ubiquitous Search Engines slash internet giant has the answer has to answer the uk is legal system google accused of secretly bypassing privacy settings on my phone ants and other products by rival apple insists in the first proclaimed in the uk gets the silicone valley based giant the lawsuit must instead be brought in california where google hangs its hat is something of a sore subject these days. The Digital Economy blurs the borders of our nation states in more ways than one. Irelands finance minister assuring the likes of google and apple that they could continue to enjoy the blues twelve point five percent Corporate Tax rate on money made elsewhere in Europe Europe which to build out our island to island which exit to bail out on sunday. Googles right to point out that tax avoidance is perfectly legal in this instance that the companys been working to boost its image. Like last week with the inauguration a new culture lab in paris for artists to interact and make use of the latest technology and integration attended by one junior minister but snubbed by frances culture minister is because of remarks made by global Vice President and chief internet evangelist its jobs that keep me sir sir who recently stated that the whole notion of privacy may be an anomaly im self serving spin will be asking our panel today in the polls and get today google the search for privacy and with us to talk about it from london. Dan tension partner at kohls wine. The firm firing of one affirms filing suits it in ones and in that class action thank you for joining us thanks as well. Two french attorney eight in the koran specialized in um specializes in intellectual Property InformationTechnology Online services and Data Protection thank you for being with us thanks as well to families so that anyone who teaches Information Warfare and Political Science. Seals or the french Political Science institute. Information warfare. No more using information its term. Hard to use as a nasty way something great will proceed also with this welcome the choppy on the posh end of critical commentator and author of the euro maestro long thank you for being with us. And economists on the kepler gracing us with his presence usually in pass the Senate Report of a pre defined and redefined dot org thank you for being with us the falls and gets me we can join the conversation on facebook and on twitter are hushed and two for two days lets begin with you a dead end in london um how did how did the curing go on on day one there that it was. Was it did to the court say that yes the uk court can hear the case. While the wheels of the nhs isnt afraid to state he said its a little bit of love before we know that. We visited a bit over the hearings the hat tomorrow im dead and that were is that judgment so we wont know to read so that the new year will judge as he decides your thoughts on on the matter the cool pool saying that the cre California Based Company and that this should not be heard and in the inning the score along. But we think this is ridiculous and we at the three divisions currently we have been seventy people in the uk brought to us and say that events that surprise it did happen to that. I mean we just tossed off with three just individuals i did scoop of goodwill to say that actually is the most convenient thing for the section a is for this action to take place in United States either in california a world speak to others that you guys forget it lah where they are registered Technical Assistance ridiculous mother that three individuals scary just know will be without any Great Results is to go all the lights the notice states i have to subject themselves to the rigors of the American Court system. Overall than bouillon though it was the most ubiquitous company in the well. Having two comes the not the kingdom we would say that most of the state is they should submit themselves to the uk jurisdiction. I only thought the case that here. Beat in the long course in cool is it is in use in china. Its one of the Biggest Companies now in United States and perhaps the world. But were in uncharted territory legally speaking a lot of ways because crossing borders when it comes to things like intellectual property right in terms of privacy issues with the internet its all brand new one. Its very new but these are his tools were adapted to person suite in nineteen seventy four increased to Seventy Eight then on a nice picture of criminal in nineteen ninety five. So he opted to leave shoes quite easy to understand. Your subject to the european rules when the first u establishing the rep season on the case will cool. Or when you press this information. Cooney agent or a new means quicker and heat it in the european cherry tree. This is what google says i did something but not with the need for school the chairperson or privacy processing and age you only you and cherry tree this is the right to win us the new agreement with google that these people were not subscribers of googles uses the ads a knife. In the shooting. These are based on a contractual relationship with google which could mean for the vacation of the counseling alone so the other. The strategy to finance or you are based on the criminal and infringements. Where the uk courts. Queen bee and the right jurisdiction for these uk citizens. Or you are based only on civil court for cool wearing gold could argue that comes when you know its hard to shop started it. Who will dare call it and the cookie jar this time and puts a bit troubling is that its one thing to you know it alls fair in love and warm into the if its another copy to get in there theyre going to get out of consumers third parties who are their rivals in. Got mistaken this. I think all those making two two arguments here. One is this jurisdictional argument which is probably that the weakest argument saying that castillo up Lighting Company courts no just reading an article in forbes which compared the analogy to york times committing libel against the uk citizen. In making the same argument that its servers era new york newspapers based in york. But on. Traditionally the case could still be held in the uk so i think that their sticks on it was pretty weak but the other argument that the meeting they were successful because a similar case was already present in the us sourced from now. Was on the basis that there was no toy. Please note damages so yeah stayed the night damage the tree. They were and still some peoples personal consumer habits. Yes but then the question is what one is the actual damages of those people suffered because of them. It might seem decent and goebbels eichmann was and they were successful with previous case was that there was no actual damages the case was thrown out every snow damage. These concerns. Cool cool with the candy thanks one thing at least the general now understand that his privates he is over and crutches is over because of Companies Like cool cool or facebook or many other but also because of the things like the nsa or the French Secret Services and it comes to who will people realize that and maybe they can take action the only political goal but with their own states. Today intentions clients have a case or is is no harm done to them. Its not a lot of palm down and do this on down to my pc and this might be real important. Its a story but it just me. Go ahead and does that mean that im going to be clear about what was that was taken in this case he says peoples internet. Activity they use it to be exact. This is pretty quiet. I was snooping on people if you imagine for a pair of six months. There is armaments you expo in your shoulder. What you every inch the page almost every page you go to the main lake select information now. Its true that to good use that to say that these papers though to do nothing about what they use active nation force to target appetites hear it but we had some rough on telling embarrassing situations the attacks of the of material at the end of two other people are using the same device is i that indicates to the ne via their tutsi think that theyve undertaken on the internet i am but the other side that this is. You might say that either the season relativity of notable for his information but because he says because the profits go to google releases the business of mine and false prophets after that. In the ita that i company can play costs to the spit into the tools privacy rights on the gospel which shoots but said there is new legal redress the queues when seen from the that the position of the victim it doesnt seem to some threshold of hoffman seems ridiculous to us he looks a bit which are straight. Most corporations in displaying the United States. Although there was a section on those because refer to all claimants in the simple call to step out under american or not on the cooler that way seeking to unseat me to go under a cloak the wall what happened in america was that noah actions but that the federal level and the states levels which recovered many millions of dollars from three to twenty two Million Dollars will pay in fines to the federal government and seventy Million Dollars will pay to an action brought by attorneys generals to thirty eight states now whats next when europe is there isnt the same reveal a tree falls the uk Information Commissioners Office was opposite direction regulates the snow began to take effective action against a two o and even in for aunts wake of a very serious mckenna turned tomato that has really taught to bring to the book but has not been able to do so say fall due to be resistant to any real engagement of what our world grain to produce the concerns that so i did but thats been one of chief concerns is a Large Corporation i can post amounts of money simply resist an accountant in the colts. Sorry care for him when you log on to apple products. We had a few local teens snooping on your consumer habits. Buy thing then this issue that is just couldnt imagine me i just am in the beginning of what is likely to be a ballerina last thing come to a shoe and one heat the bacon as a number of reasons for that one is. If you like and germany for instance an open mind and be good this great piece in the fp that that determines our notorious for standing naked mind of windows without heartbeats and their notion of privacy when it comes to you know that being on beaches in the mediterranean pre tom cloke that it is very different from the notion of rivers see that see others but when it comes to date. We had a very very good from the shoot when you look across generations you have the Younger Generation to korea with facebook and who being part of it. They share stuff that people wouldnt dream of shattering personally person to person and put it on facebook and their understanding of what is prissy and where they would like to draw the line is very different promoted generations of babies across countries across the kind of media that is that. So i think that this doesnt have a nice simple onsen and this goes to the heart of what she was saying about whether or not there was need of major when its just about the principle. And i think that to be fair its a bit about the book about both the timing we are all used to and he grew up with free to air tv which has advertisements targeted at ten in exchange we get the tv be used e mail for free bhutto has made everybodys life much much easier it is an amazing Search Engine might boil a cup and then the flip side of the days you do get targeted advertisements which you are free to ignore and i think that this trade offs of the question is that the general principle of the trade off for all the benefits you get and what you signed away and then there is the specific case which in this match but they were naughty when using google products but the one of their way to get signed up to something. And in the analysis to examine it when you use apple product respect the snoop gone by. At that. Teachers who would who was Monitoring Unit to the tea leaves because you are entering into the country to read relationship. He says police are called the idea of these buttons between the advantage in the way you could send a privacy just by buying free of charge interesting product the thing here is that google was a full pot the season may be why this regime should be located before that the prosecution with a criminal investigation. Sticking with on the pool the cable in the uk as being the natives are not. Instead of knowing if i will be really wants to continue flying because of the corporate or breed show because its a pretty thing its not a matter of price is not a matter of value the body of my pressies not something im going to start tomorrow. They find something to the house which is the opportunity to get additional little babies dont matter. In the kitchen witches tea in the court the kitchen off to sweet ridicule. Within twenty seven european Member States which is the first commercial between awful cuckoo. You will. After the us so we are nuts. And in smaller markets and our lows and just knock me for it for european companies. They reproach is a broader question last month at a conference hosted by Us Federal Trade Commission computer scientists dancer who is officially billed as cool as their internet evangelist warns that the whole notion of privacy is called something which has emerged out of the urban boom coming from the industrial revolution. Privacy may actually be an anomaly in the town of three thousand people there is no privacy Everybody Knows what everybody is doing so make up for up to you agree that weve had this little window of opportunity where we had a relative amounts privacy and that is just face it its over be fatalistic about it while i think that this and seductive appeal to that particular argument and i mean if you look at the broad sweep of history as president i thing that made this there is definitely something i mean if you just look for example you travel to the slums in mumbai. You know you have eight to ten People Living in a single room shanty hops for example whats in a previous existence as viva discussing that give it some of the teenagers in what they do online much to prove its existence i think that there is something definite to about this fight that weve lived through a rather unique regime better idea of individual space attack that has dominated in the sand that had to see that weve become used to but it may be an anomaly a mean if you look at the ubiquitous cctv its aim to unite the meme if you look at the goo goo cars which are basically going in thinking that is every bit of a cat. Embracing the device in Golden Gloves which is going to potentially take pictures of everything and everybody around you every single conversation you say could be recorded that the fed for but i kinda definitely entering the road where privacy rather than being the default option is something that you have to try and much much harder to protect. It is only this new world the sephardic they got cs. And i would be uncomfortable and im afraid i still do things that id be uncomfortable scene replayed on tv and i say its a conniving many people i like that and the question then becomes much more about boundaries and may you define those and what side of the tracks i think that when she raises extremely important so when those boundaries get crossed. Ones boundaries that society puts on what is private and what isnt whats in every dress is actually available then i think the problem is that the question is is screening correctly the prom isnt really question why does him no privacy. Previously she pointed out behind the lead to three thousand people everyone knows everything about everyone the difference was that kind of okay with societal norms how we treat it either. And the question is now worn this new world when the state is now again available and we have to establish the norms of how the cds use the palm with google wasnt necessarily the snooping but its a question of. On the transparency of the tv they were collecting and how they were using it and came back to dans pointed out that twenty two million find its feet to the federal trade commission. Hell go to not admit any wrongdoing in that matter it is that it is negotiated settlement. And it wasnt so much for this to concur state that the misrepresentation that that seems to overt declare whether and to date they did wrong when we come back. I will get to see how france is handling all of that stay with us youre watching the fast and can they. I am do you what you would use whats next. To celebrate the seventh out of the sweet sweet megan will improve weve gone back to basics the ppcs access to information. For each unique experience. Foresight capital doha the International News web sites. Our eye. Welcome back. Before using the false and get them to be to sample the stories were falling for it the top of the hour here on false and dance in ukraine another night of protests that twenty six adding more pressure to present a can of coke rich who travels to moscow on tuesday. Chiles Michelle Bachelet celebrates her reelection and fifty eight percent extension which is perhaps the solution the current crop of politicians. Every chance from the merkel says a grand Coalition Deal that will see her start in the center left prime is this very week the number of Syrian Refugees to double in the coming year or so says United Nations which launches its biggest ever feel for it. Eye. Call and welcome back are welcome if you just joining us this is the false been killed to date. Um were looking to add to google and the search for privacy been picking up on remarks made by its Vice President and in turn a groove and serve st privacy may actually be an anomaly and with this. To talk about it and tend to partner it alls wind the firm in its filing. Um a Class Action Lawsuit among tonight is to call in britain you dont call the cost of twenty quality. A group claim that what we have with them and when we got rehab at the session as such we have three titans meal my dad in a mall. Anyhow we get so but so would it have the prince of a Cross Section of it and today was the first day hearings about. So the alleged spying on not on customers of apple products it by a group will win twenty games would you expect to hear from the judge well we had a hearing or that state would happen if a bit more of a hearing tomorrow i and we expect all the cores that judgments that we provide to the soviet ten will be off on a necklace the regions wines with us as well french attorney specializing intellectual property families that are one who teaches Information Warfare at the french Political Science institutes gospel. Tokyo the fourteenth of april commentator and longer and sunny to pour economist with the defined um those remarks were referring to buys in search of god. Friday seat being in an on anomaly that may be coming to an end. Enough to fire up a storm here in france for the culture minister canceled her appearance at last tuesdays inauguration of googles new center for artists and new technology instead as the junior minister for the Digital Technologies who attended the paris opening of a cool pool laps im shocked at our shared your thoughts on this that the french governments the culture minister saying im not going to mean. Since then. Yea i know i think the at home. You know its sort of a new world of branching into anything you know. Facebooks on zuckerberg i created this in controversy when he said its the end of privacy. I think we really cant understand that the notions of privacy are going to change we need to adapt and i think the french are still little bit behind in a misunderstanding. Are they behind or they simply enough with this to your family said sorry and to add to it and are they simply um. Trying to do it again create rules that protect everyone. Every year since it is an Emergent Order where there is no bar you know what to expect. So the tussle of these debates is quite interesting because one word is missing. Not because its highly forgot something. Virtual global progress. Instead of searching for privacy the city for days when deflation per person. On the condition and one coach or a history of friendship country. Leaving the twins had a new Member States have different approaches surprise so when you are a Global Company you have to face hundreds of posts. Beat cream. Child protection. This particular Consumer Protection to treat your feelings whenever hes with you a change of protection for Human Services says it is costco global debt to just not to say um did not apply or the other los but its true that we dont at the new naked nation preview of that us federal states with lower price he was first mentioned in the nineteen seventy for instance cannot adopt easy it is from russia appear what would you put in such a law bought one of the things you would like to see what would you like see the boundary something we see on mcguinty ftc relations the us and europe. Your information transferred to the purpose use. Crucially to bow to thee and teacher retention. Going into the new assistants and the right to object to the knee and teach me to soak a teacher or commercial use of new guitar without any reason to provide or the right to consent to it on a more strict in the air when you would like one like someone threw a tea to get a piece of information coming true for sparky. Many of the intense about this tend to think thats feasible on a global basis to come up with common roots. I think ms is absent the thief would come up we will minimum rules of course some of these questions a reason a country specific about pace that is respectful of the most important is consent of us will assist the pvc here. I turned to state aid to the us to declare this case is that apple produced a product that specifically prohibit in this kind of cannot give people the contract unless he posits a realtor didnt do it. I do most of the tibetan a potatoe that they stay for another reason debate so that it back to track people anyway now that completely flies in face of consent in ie icon imagine any way that would have a difficulty about saying that the fundamental touched and these issues is consent there are some complex it is but it means that a it is quite possible to present people with the painful decisions so they can choose whether in or out there and secondly it on skis for the services in the great things you know whats going on what your info you can choose to sign up to the benefits. And im so for the disadvantaged. But that seems to me this and to top senate seat that air become protected. Ugc or somehow dont offer the option of reading the novels terms of use when you win you the software in the middle there are small. Nobody reads those ideas are seeing is that he would take like two weeks or months to the oldies use agreements between son and his family were tons of projects and reading has developed three months the year for someone reading it before i was on a possible that the key here. The key here is what were saying earlier the seekers is transparency. So as to be clear what point is that they doing with your data and to cap the consent hearing anything that i would add to it he said earlier tuesday possibly to correct the mistakes and grow new state of the chip itself. If you can tell. I think it is a very good knowledge of and the Financial Sector hit his skin i mean he wont go all out Credit Information and everything about you know la papa means that we live in tents have been correct and collect my Credit Bureaus stripe. We had exactly that same problem of taking pains to long complex agreements that come in because nobody reads. But there was some movement that day is a standardized ish enough you know. One major womens rights to most people still dont read one page agreements that every single credit card has to have an idea Something Like that the simplification of the basic terms can be can be useful. There is another analogy which is Financial Sector companies once again question exactly with the new kits at it and dont pay tax in that same way that is now a controversy in the eye the sector because its becoming harder and harder to pin that down. There are significant costs more than dimensions and is a significant commercial and bought that day game that based on the information that is or why did my undies i think theres some interesting lessons to be from the limits of what can be done and what actions are being taken in the Financial Services dimension that can be applied to this dimension at least you agree with the rest of town hear that so far we dont have those and those those new rules in place but at least it looks as though the mines are beginning to concentrate on the matter. Yes thats a good thing and i sure hope that youll want to stay with himself because there are many third party and looking at what youre doing on the internet mobile is one of them but your Internet Provider most of the time is not the one and the state is yet another one and although those are specifically looking for something companies of course im looking for marketing purposes to make more money the states. Its not that appear most the time theyre probably looking for security or social stability and this my comp not be compatible with democracy. You say that im the guy mixed messages from both the likes of cool goal for the past couple weeks with a cool one of the major us with Companies Including apple and facebook it signed an open letter to president obama calling for tighter controls on how the government collects personal data is connecting with everyone around this table. But then last friday he was of a Bipartisan Group of us lawmakers are published a letter against german and european efforts that would prevent the seniors companies from processing commercial and personal data from customers in europe these policies threaten to harm american and International Businesses states. Then we had the opposite reaction from the french kaufman who is basically the same angle for privacy invasion and at that very same time voting and all that the most the french state to spy on african citizen. So everybody is singing the opera one and at the base by. Thats the mood to talk to the fact but it at the end of the day you were mentioning the germans are and how for them of course after. What happened under communist rule in east germany. Its a very sensitive subject. You see this being a major stumbling block to the us free trade negotiations. I cleaned off all the countries in the eu this is the one issue that resonates most with tenants and if you remember those that buy in to our team that actually made it into the into some of the regional parliaments and of course that enough is about but its very important you just mentioned the duplicity of a lot of these arguments of the french and germans came out the loudest when the nsa games came out about the us snooping on their citizens because of that another friend and the german states who actually cooperating with the gc hq in the United Kingdom. In doing exactly the same thing. And i think this is a very important issue in terms of where cool is doing walks and what is it that you can actually control and book just do it as a way of thinking about it you know its useful to think that if we replace what we are discussing and think that this discussion is happening in the context of china or in a torrid day reinstate many of these arguments would actually change and some of the stuff that we as saying google and anybody else shouldnt do always saying you should remove its a type a number of the images that up. When it came to the Chinese Government are fighting on what to look at and keanu we might even have the post and spend a lot of that also applies to what we allow the state to do and wed be dont allow the state so the same companies become champions when they held that say whats going on in and to me is the intent of the tunisian government trying to crack down on sweets and then of course that demean the force to which the message spread. And yet if that same thing applies and we say well we dont particularly agree with this that a major this particular section on business coupon policy in the United States about revenge. Bournemouth. Then you apply different statutes for example the cumin seed trees that extreme france under fire. Its keel the same cool for applying the First Amendment and steam from the united stated that it can be seems a very shocking that in france. Its okay. Hes not as good a stay at the state to state spying is completely different situation. Really you could use it so different in the sense that you had one Edwards Jones revelations came out news that a he was a private contractor and b that there was collusion on the part of some of these internet giants who were cooperating with the nsa colleagues at the time it has a lot of opera scene this whole thing because the only state subjected to at the us was doing indiana cd collection. It turns out the uk governments were actually cooperated with them and providing him the private Companies Break will go right cooperate. Yes well its a true eccentric origin to say they have almost no choice because of the feasts of courts in the us. If you dont cooperate. What happens is that the government can get orders her to get direct access to their servers to read it and getting to look at direct physical access to service the preemptive by providing the information because of their concern thats why these Companies Know they are fighting against east tennessee mr spector. When the power jewelry and use it that way dance and keeping the coming michael couldve stood up to the nsa. Or ii identity as an answer that but i do think that the possibility of the American Government stepping in to the nation with lots of people come late originally told me youre a kid like for people to collect items a beating this case a nation peoples insensitivity is even a dual our rights when they say they would enable than talk about that i see with that they have that recalls a trade information on state goldsmith who knows what happens to it. So we saved all the wormhole that you have a strict regulation and in this case we have to close relation to so call cps gastric regulation of beans the companys intentions will eclipse investments. I would agree that twenty of the superior wordy and you can union with our regulations which to protect the deed and you have transparency and to prevent this the sale of the details of their parties. The promise really the us which is the wild west and those companies able to click one of the dvd was hella to hover they want nice to have these Andrew Peterson and reveal the state are keen to use it for noble purposes. I think thats a real problem. Its a matter of competition. Its a matter of sovereignty from states days in the form pending before the European Commission kalimantan you can count still. Still the argumentation of jurisdiction and principles could be over in two thousand sixteen when we are. When you read it. The european regulations in force. In it to us about commercial negotiations between the us in iraq. Its really the disintegration or as. The oil industry and the way people like to share energy on a School Teacher he said to me to the core of the new business to build today. In these tea typically stations between the us in europe which are occurring in the same time as european privacy laws could be stricter than be used to be before. Hes the kind of tool place of debate between competing term covers so green tea and privacy. And we weep. Theres a difference between distilling case in dc but andys dispose of private companies the difference is that given a choice when your seat is in knots when your acting as states. And when youre african trickle musicianship of the Company Issued a decree should be raised in the choice made which is not the case when you are dealing with minded guys already in use in research at the end the day sunny ca for the things that said dont be a calm souring of relations between europe and the us or europe the piano. They say well thats the tees off on this perhaps one day in the us free trade negotiations biking some soldering its only happened that has been a significant loss of trust which remained the end. In fact the pace and scale up to get negotiations typing in the end the commercial relations is far too important an eis was freed he pointed out that a state state corporation on the bob on the Security Side thinks that this may not become a real condition that an agreement would be filed monday the end and despite the many different cultural approaches to what that is he is and what isnt. Ari and you were mentioning earlier of course the piece you up on information crossing borders said is also the issue of revenue. Crossing borders this weekend as ireland celebrated its exit from its eurozone bailout. Finance minister said dublin was sticking with a Corporate Tax rates attracted the likes of goal the ireland is one of the most open economies in the world our taxation system is open transparent. All the rules clearly set down in our National Laws and profits earned in on liable to tax at twelve point five percent so says Michael Noonan that said the government insists roles have been tight. The most recent budgets we actually made quite a number of significant amendments to the finance bill. In terms of state companies that earn lots of merkels eagles peoples day highlights to other countries. The only way we can move across the European Union is to do some unkind european tastes at the oecd. Reich erg its tax transparency and a digital age very common respect for people to lose it and most nationalist different bits of their business in different parts to come out of the world to take advantage of the text does exist there be to harmonize cost over a period of time. Greece. If we acting harmonizing that. X rays over europe. It is something we should achieve. The sooner the better thats for sure btc are happening anytime soon. I dont see this happening anytime soon but still we should aim for it and its a real important for europe to be him. Who really a place where you can do business anywhere who is roughly the same kind of fiscal situation. Sorry for the liking we went one step further removed from that the case as being a law thats been stopped and the posts several times it is consolidated Corporate Tax rates. It simply means money when agreeing to on what to rate the stock still alive but just agreeing on what basis that action applied to writing this is the fundamental problem that we dun into the Company Searches google because wood who has done essentially together with many of the untied to companies is a stake in a reload the page and send with the revenue still as has microsoft into low Tax Jurisdictions of the profits from auto and its not just to get a pin from the profits from lets say the same microscope office in india. X had to fly to ireland and with the local tax applied these benito and this goes to a heart for fundamental question which is part of the goalies this that we have an address which is never exactly is bound to generate lets say in the manufacture of them i fall when the chinese can write a complain despite the fact that spent most of it is actually manufactured most of the profits and the revenues and taxation goes to the United States with the simple thing they had done was to come up with the design. And that is a easy a case to crack down in the case of nights ago the amazon apple or facebook which are due in part of the coup is a dreamy is not an obvious thing to want so as to what jurisdiction do these companies dont have exact these value added is not united. As is being claimed in the United Kingdom because thats when the advertisements were targeted and these people finally can write that advertising into a commercial for it is and thats when the dough thats the goulburn is actually making its money in that speech be taxed so that idea off what jurisdiction apply supplies across the full spectrum that prissy at one end of the spectrum to revenue at the other two are the sorts of legislation it and well it sounds for some reason spanning impossible. Known to determine where the value is generated. No you have some trackers which are used for for privacy infringement put tax pollution. For me it seems silly lawyers are always innovative and dads trying to find ways to use dvd and some luck lies in activity. Maybe its not a matter of time. The education scenario corporation on a mission globally and mobile we dont have this interest between regions with the new regions and that individual i should say next. Im ten years ago and indeed it would be taxed on a station regime or privacy and global influence and principleswe would never happen maybe my son would not see it. Today im just saying that the ttp to speak and speak what isnt and im sorry i couldnt sixteen or seventeen the privacy relation year of peace corps cadets and sixteen. And the tax regime and for the oecd Leadership Teams could be moist and the cortez and twenty mm was first opened to the paprika and sixteen so its not because we waited a long time to go in to good use. That we dont have any. We wanted to be changing a new changing the speed. The grasshopper Glass Half Full or in the oven the poms. Its coming from one of you on facebook more would sing one day the world will wake up to the fact that the nation in the National Legal boundaries have been dissolved by the internet for ever so theres somebody who feels as though our politicians may not get the upper hand. In this argument. Of course den where you are in one ten the government has been working hard to get some of that revenue thats gone to places like ireland or offshore. Will it be in this city before laying in state companies in an austin questions the opponent is that said it the eighties and in this difficult issue to taunt this year. Oh well companys revenue to the means to say say it isnt eating the ice that announces a success and i think that the uk position be very resistant to it. I agreed to create tax harmonization because we like the people in pairs of tights to be accountable to us to prosecute. And say whatever he sets the rate should be at our own government grow than say some european government because of the same degree of democracy than two minutes chop the knowledge and ninety its very clear that we need on harmonization not just on the rates but also on the rules that are set up and just get to illustrate this point. Starbucks for instance in the uk under the last fifteen years i paid zero taxes and fourteen of those years and when youre paid a small pittance of the tax cuts not a question that these companies are paying twelve percent in ireland coolest thing somewhere around two percent of tax freedom to read news and most of the large us Companies LikeApple Microsoft and google are all paying somewhere between one percent two percent. Sometimes close to zero percent with the palm is these people way the current tax laws are set up to actually assist be able to avoid any taxation and so we need harmonization of their european something with their fingers. Alright so we had a system that floats our notions of privacy. Floats are notions of National Boundaries which were sort of discovering a little bit with it with this note in there when you teach. At gospel. Do you feel as though theres a huge generation gap when you discuss this with your students this there is a cute chair and went to macs to choose a to b c this is not a problem. Oh did the speed this is a huge problem when they see is a world where state will become and it brought the rock institution and were corporation will have one more power and not truly optimistic on that and one things for sure with them. Ive been teaching with him but is confident its this totally unfair and that the prisoner a fair bit since two thousand to less than a telescope. And then it was a main concern for all my students. And it isnt really a concern because democracy is going to be changed in a frame that way because of those technologies and democracy as we know it will disappear quite quickly center for biting a mean that thats probably too dark a picture and to be fat. And its something we see all the time that you know the intimate as the name of democracy in a lot of the few that did the deal the picture i thing the internet has been much of an enabler of moxie still fall then. Its a question of democracy that having been said that every gene such as in china where the ad is the online word has proliferated that is also exactly and rather than saying we fear big bro them and write the bread that has the right. But what we follow in the early chinese citizens ahead of the game is when the long wave only use all kinds of beautiful euphemisms to get around the sense that having been said they the chinese eat its got a mouse in the tiny state acting idea to see animated minded fee to have your real names and identities which is that in order to have one pecan so even if youre trying to google around the system it is a cat and mouse get it i think a lot of the eminent be on next. This is a lot of uncharted penetrate and the one thing i can guarantee is that one year from about two years from now five in ten years from now youll still be having exactly this discussion. Perhaps an even more heated way and the tykes dimension which are mentioned is just one part of that we have of Global Governance system that is actually known existed. We have National Governments we have Billy Connollys in the low taxation have been over climate change. We have been over taxation problems and the problem of course is that the crisis as if anything reinforce the nationalistic dimension if you pick of the euro price is a group of countries in the shed is to shed a tear shed religion if we get our act together facing an imminent threat then the hope of getting the time as in the reserves to sit around and agree to the deceased and that stocks colonize this in mind when they go we have to remit this money to pour i want to think jonah think is well the families said it could walk it tends to our cattle sheds and tents for joining us from london thank you to the spirit of costs and debt pool. Chen said the office that means. That is interacting with their view are stellar and more. Two students. Please them possession of an insight in state bench by the king of the last spot on. Spots on his own to find. See the world looks like from parents and students like from Continental Europe which will be no further. I will does. Books. 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