Dropped against mubarak. Could it be the bloodiest 24 hours syria has seen since the start of the civil war . Some claim chemical weapons have been used. We are looking at how the west is reacting to both of those stories in this special, too part addition of france 24 debate. Lets start the hour and say hello once again to chris moore. The Un Security Council set to meet on the claims that three used chemical weapons. According to egypt, ordering the release of former president Hosni Mubarak, they stop short of suspending aid after the crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood. 35 years in jail for bradley manning. We start with the u. S. Un Security Council set to meet over allegations see reuse chemical weapons. There are conflicting reports from damascus suburbs this wednesday. The opposition says poison gas was used in more than 1300 people killed. Bashar assads government has denied the claims. Julia seger has more. Civilians are shown covering their faces and dozens of bodies lying on the floor of a hospital. The pictures were allegedly shot after the Syrian Regime launched an attack ad against rebel held areas in the capital city. France 24 was not able to verify the footage. It was claim chemical weapons were used in the bombings. It is obvious to us that chemical weapons were used and carried out using ballistic missiles. Only the regime has that capability. Contacted by france 24, the syrian observatory for human rights could not directly confirm the report. We have documented the 10th airstrike by the Syrian Air Force on one of the towns were activists reported the use of poisonous gas injuring hundreds of people as a result. We have not been able to verify or get all the names but we have seen video documentation. Syrian authorities probably denied the charges. A military spokesman accused foreign news channels of manipulating public opinion. A general leadership of the Army Confirms these allegations are completely false. They are a part of the dirty media war led by some countries through the media against syria. The allegation of the use of chemical weapons comes during a u. N. Inspectors mission. Human rights organizations and the International Community have all called on the observers to head to the area to verify the information. Elsewhere, according egypt has ordered the release on bail of former president Hosni Mubarak after his appeal in the Corruption Case. It remains unclear as to if and when he will be freed. He faces he has only served the maximum pretrial detention. European Union Foreign ministers have been posting their response to the egyptian governments deadly crowd crackdown. They will review funds given to cairo and are stopping short of a freeze on aid. We had the statement and even the language of the statement seems like a big compromise. The u. S. Has moderated its tone after days of really asking the interim government and the army to step back and try to scale back the violence and putting the blame for many recent deaths on the interim government. This document makes it a 5050 responsibility between the government and the protesters. It highlights the increasing our continuing desire to permit more dialogue and not alienate either side and engage constructively time providing for the egyptian people, saying the people have suffered enough. To cut aid now would be disastrous. What does it actually amount to . The eu said today that the ongoing programs they have, of which most is for civil Sobriety Society and vulnerable groups , and there is the 5 billion euro promise that was made last november of aid and loans that we assumed might be cut or changed in some way. That has not been touched here today by the Foreign Ministers. In terms of the weapons, roughly 300 Million Euros worth of weapons each year. The czech republic, bulgaria and italy also selling weapons to them, but that has officially been frozen. More coming up shortly in the france 24 debate. Bradley manning has been sentenced to 35 years behind bars. Wikileaks has described it as a strategic victory. His fate has been decided. Bradley manning has been sentenced to 35 years in prison. Last month, the former soldier was convicted of the biggest breach of classified data in the history of the united states. As manning was being sentence, hundoutside demanding justice. Private manning has also been dishonorably discharged. His title has been reduced to the lowest rank of private and he has been stripped of all his pay and benefits. Manning leaked over 700,000 secret documents to wikileaks. He insists that he only handed over information that he believed would not be harmful. Under military law, his sentence will automatically be appealed. He will probably be eligible for parole after he has served at least 1 3 of his sentence. The level of severity has been upgraded on the fukushima water leakage. The worst contamination level since the 2011 nuclear meltdown. The pants Nuclear Watchdog has upgraded the toxic leak discovered monday at the Fukushima Nuclear plants. It originally classified the leak as a level one and a nominally, the Second Lowest level on the scale that measures nuclear incidents. But overnight, the Japan Nuclear authority reconsidered and upgraded it to level three, serious incident. We have to look into how to reduce the risk and how to prevent it from becoming a fatal or serious accident. The watchdog said it feared other tanks were also leaking and questioned the plant operators to cope with the disaster. And now the government is stepping in. Anyway you look at it, this is deplorable. The government will make every effort to halt the leak of contaminated water as soon as possible. It is the most serious action taken since the Fukushima Nuclear plant was destroyed nearly 2. 5 years ago. This is the latest in a string of allegations against tepco, the plants operator. It has been accused of covering up the extent of the problem at the plants. After months of denial, it finally admitted just weeks ago that contaminated water was flowing into the pacific ocean. That is it from the newsroom for now. Time to hand you over for the debate with friends walk the card with francois picard. A day of drama in the arab world. For the past 2. 5 years, panelist on the show have repeatedly insisted that, come what may, the push court Civil Liberties and democracy will not be stopped. You will not be able to put the genie back in the bottle. That view of the arab spring is certainly being put to the test this wednesday, with claims that syria has experienced this luckiest 24 hours to date. First, we are going to cairo and the dismissal of her main charges against Hosni Mubarak. Egypts ruler of two decades could walk free as early as thursday. This as the new army backed authorities continued to round up senior members of the ousted Muslim Brotherhood. European Foreign Ministers have condemned the past weeks crackdown and the death toll has now equal those 18 days back in january 2011 that overthrew the bar. With mubarak said to walk, his successor, Muhammad Morsi, set to take his place, is it back to square one for egypt . V is with us to talk about it. Welcome to the show. V is with us to talk about it. From london, a Muslim Brotherhood spokesperson. Thank you for being with us. Eric trager of the Washington Institute and jonathan paris from the uk council. A witness from the fall of mubarak is with us in the studio. You can always join the conversation on facebook and twitter. He forward go to our panel, lets go to our current cairo correspondent. Catherine staple he joins us. Can you remind us again how come Hosni Mubarak is set to be released . Today in the court the court released him on the last remaining Corruption Case against him. His family said they paid back the value of the alleged gift and that is why his longer says he should now be released. He will not walk free from prison today. There is still legal wrangling going on. The prosecution wants to appeal the decision and under egyptian law has 48 hours to do so. We are now hearing that the judges may not allow any appeal to happen. If and when he is released, Hosni Mubarak will not be able to leave the country and he is subject to a travel ban. He is still under charges of having to the reason he does not have to remain in prison while the retrial goes ahead is that he has already served out the maximum amount of pretrial detention permitted in that case, which is two years in prison without a final conviction. One thing is clear, he will not be released today but he could very well be free by the end of the week every you were saying how the courts could decide not even to hear an appeal, but could the authorities overrule the courts . Is it a sure thing that he could walk on thursday at oh i dont think could walk on thursday . I dont think they have any intention of doing so at the moment. You have to remember the interim government was installed by the military, and Hosni Mubarak is a military man. Many here believe that the release of Hosni Mubarak was always part of the plan when he was removed from power on july 3. I think it is a huge gamble by the authorities. It is certainly reinforcing the view here that is starting to take hold at the mass protests was the work of mubarak area figures who want to reinstate the old regime. That could turn the protest against the military and more could side with the alliance. It could be a move by the authorities to keep mubarak in prison if huge protests are up or if and when he does come to be released. It just shows you how the political scene has changed so league that his release could now become a reality. Some activists are saying his release would be the final nail in the coffin of the january 2011 egypt and revolution. So perhaps expect the unexpected. The divide between egyptians can be measured by the spectrum of opinions on mubarak. On the news that he had been cleared of those charges. This is a disgusting charade by the judiciary, the army, and the police. He should have been released a long time ago. God forgive them for what they have done. The judiciary has ordered this, so that should be enough. I have complete faith in the egyptian to do sheri. What is your gut feeling . Is he going to walk free within the next 24 hours . In 2011, egyptians rallied in damascus to oust mubarak from dictatorship. Then we had our first democratically elected civilian leader. Then comes the military junta and then the coup detat on the third of july. Clearing him from his charges is actually what was expected. The third of july was a coup to reinstate a military regime, to reinstate an oppressive regime. We are seeing violations of human rights. We are seeing mass murder among those who are opposing this coup detat. We are seeing oppression of the freedom of expression. We are seeing a clampdown on Free International media. We are seeing a return of the mubarak regime. The only thing remaining is the return of mubarak himself, which we are seeing today. The International Community has backed off backed up the dictatorship for decades. We are seeing them being very neutral now. They did not does support the democracy as they should. I want to go to victor. You hurt our correspondents say many of those who supported the armys move, the ouster of vomit morsi could change their b. J. The ouster of mohammed morsi. Mubarak now is completely irrelevant politically and as a person. No one really cares. You understand it is a bit of a shock for people who do not live in egypt. It is more of a shock than for people who live in egypt who really have forgotten about the whole mubarak thing. I would have loved if she had been talking about freedom and the political process and the route toward democracy in october and november when the constitution was being drafted. That is where it all went wrong, really. Egypt had left the path to democracy at this particular point. Which brings us back again to the timing. Back to november, according to the associated press, in the last week we have had nearly 1000 killed. It had been a brutal crackdown and it is a fault by the military. It is a political and moral fault, but it could have been avoided if they had just let them go and let them be. The other thing i wanted to say is that the 30th of june when we had tens of millions of people in the street. This happened, this is a fact. The army would not have been able to go in the streets if there were not that many people in the streets. She was talking about january 2011, but it happened in a bigger scale in june 2013. What do you make of the timing of all of this that go the timing of all this . This train really ran off the rails due to Mohamed Morsis decision, due to the way the Muslim Brotherhood tried to consolidate power for itself. I want to push back against the claim that the International Community is backing a coup. What the International Community is trying to do is work with the new government after the previous government under the Muslim Brotherhood completely lost control of the state. I was in egypt on july 2 and three, the tail end of the new uprising. I go to egypt and a lot. What i saw in the Muslim Brotherhood and morsi had just totally lost control of the state. So his presidency was untenable, and that is ultimately why he was removed. Yet almost he has almost no one but himself and the Muslim Brotherhood to blame. It could have been averted had the brotherhood manage the country in a better, more inclusive, more democratic way. By the way, that is not at all to endorse the current. It does boil down to at the end of the day, Muhammad Morsi in jail, Hosni Mubarak out of jail. I think victor had it right when he said this is a symbolism that is resonating very much for foreign observers in the west, but that many egyptians are shrugging at. Morsi lost control of the state. Mubarak is not being reinstated coming hes being released on some sort of legal technicality. Im speaking to egyptians all day today. I spoke to a january youth protester who said we are going to back state. It just reflects how much the mindset of egypt has changed over the last 2. 5 years. Let me make a couple of observations. First, unlike in europe, which seems to view society as a post conflict society we do not have wars anymore in europe. The middle east is still subject to what i would call the rules of the jungle. You have a winner and a loser. When you say one guy is in jail and the other guys about to be free, that is part of the rules of the jungle. The army looks at the situation and says if we do all the things that the west wants us to do, and make nice to the Muslim Brotherhood, somehow we will live happily together. I am afraid that is just not th way it works. The other thing i would say is, mubarak is not being freed. He is being released from jail, but as i understand, he is going to be subject to a trial. It is very important for people to understand he is not just being released from all charges. He is just being released from bail, in american terms. He cannot travel from the country, so he is very much has to submit to the judicial process. When you think back to thohoe 18 days back in early 2011, and you hear what are correspondent was saying at the outset of the show, do you think we have come full circle . We have not, because things have moved quite a lot in egypt. The people of egypt have taken to the streets to oust, for a second time, what they saw as a threat to their freedoms, a threat to their way of life. That is very important. Egypt as a country cannot move back to january 24, 2011. Now the egyptian people know that they have that power to oust government. The timing is very powerful, as you said. If you believe in conspiracy theories, it is going to be difficult not to think that the army has used the egyptian people to achieve one of their goals, to be back to the situation before, which was basically an illegal Muslim Brotherhood movement, dismissed of the political life, where as an institution, the army will get back its free hand in politics, the economy with rhetoric which is very important , which is you are either with us or against us. It is interesting to see victor, who is very involved in the 2011 uprising, to defend the army, because he has to choose a side between the army and the Muslim Brotherhood. I know his opinions , he knows that the Muslim Brotherhood is more dangerous to his way of life. That is very interesting. We have a tweet saying millions in the country is not an excuse for a bloody coup and mass murder. I want to talk about the timeline not since 2011 but in the last week you read one of the big events of this week has been the arrest of the supreme guide late on monday, scheduled to appear next sunday in court on allegations of incitement to murder. It is the first arrest of the brotherhoods top leader since 1981 before mubarak became president. An interim guide has been named, described as a halt and a conservative. Are we going to have a time where both sides dig in their heels and it becomes more and more radicalized . I think what you are having is the decapitation of the Muslim Brotherhood. It is not like a normal political party. It is a hierarchical vanguard with a pyramid shaped structure in which very top leaders give commands down through a chain to low level activists. If you take out the top, you really disorganize it. That is what the military has done. It is sort of like the mafia. If you take out the don, all you are left with our random operatives. If you want to stop the downward spiral and get people to the bargaining table, who do you bargain with a few are throwing the top leadership in jail . I dont see a good Case Scenario here, but i always thought negotiations was very unlikely. When you have a coup, those that have come to power dont typically negotiate with those they removed from power. They try to destroy it. Again, im not endorsing that at all, but i do think these wheels were set in motion by the basic reality that president morsi had lost control of the state. Whether there was a coup or an uprising or some other scenario, his presidency was not tenable after june 30. X there is a lot more to talk about on this issue. Because of so much that is going on, we have to turn our eyes to syria. I want to thank our guests and apologize for the technical difficulties we had in london. Eric trager in washington, jonathan paris, and our other guest. Stay with us, more to come on the france 24 debate as we set our sights on syria. The question, have syrians witnessed the bloodiest 24 hours there since the start of the civil war . Take a closer look. It can get complicated with periods of uncertainty. When everything can change, things can get difficult. Leaning on the experts can give you a better view. France 24 gives you the inside story on the economy. The global economy, 24 hours a day. Lets give you a sample of the stories we will be following for you at the top of the hour. A court in egypt orders the release of former president Hosni Mubarak. Europes foreign minister stop short of suspending aid in response to the military backed crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood. Serious government emphatically denies the use of chemical weapons in the bombardment of suburbs in the capital of damascus. 35 years is the sentence for bradley manning. A u. S. Military Court Sentencing him over the biggest intelligence leak in u. S. History. Japan raises this severity levels of the nuclear leak at fukushima. Workers are working to contain the puddles of radioactive water there. We will have those stories and much more for you at the top of the hour right here on france 24. Welcome to the second half of the france 24 debate. We now turn our attention to syria. The last 24 hours proved to be the bloodiest in that countrys 2. 5 tiered uprising against president bashar assad . Thrown in our claims of the use of chemical weapons. It is all happening as chemical weapons inspectors happen to be in damascus. We will try to piece together what has been happening with our panel. With us is douglas herbert, thanks for dropping in. We welcome back the jonathan paris from london and also serena noss arnassar. Death tolls are wildly from 100 to 1300, according to one of the heads of the Syrian Opposition abroad. Add to that claims of chemical weapons, gas used by the syrian army. Earlier, one of our citizen journalists spoke to us from the outskirts of the capital. The places in which chemical weapons were allegedly used are currently part of military operations being led by the ground forces. This is it illogical. Something definitely happen today. They started bombarding the suburbs of damascus at 4 a. M. Greg c is saying there is heavy bombardment in that area and he has witnessed it. What have your teams been able to piece together so are . Technical issues, we will try to get through to her. Do you think chemical weapons were used . Definitely. Since this morning we have seen a lot of videos and documented cases of more than 1193 cases. Our observer was a little bit skeptical, saying the use of chemical weapons in an area a report was sent from the medical point in this area who testified and confirmed the use of gas in intensive quantities. It is confirmed. According to who . We have shared videos and pictures of what happened since this morning. What could this be if it is not sarin gas . What have you pieced together . Have chemical weapons being used, and how broad has been the bloodshed these past 24 hours in the suburbs of damascus . We cannot say that chemical weapons have been used today. We cannot know, unfortunately. That is why we are calling on we are calling for expanding the mandate of the u. N. Team investigating chemical weapons, which is currently in syria. They are the ones who are able to determine whether chemical weapons have been used or not. The videos we have seen, the interviews i have done with people on the ground, including doctors, are very worrying. That is why it is very important for the u. N. Team investigating chemical weapons to be given a full mandate to investigate todays incident. Unfortunately, the u. N. Team on the ground now are mandated only to investigate three sites. In march, there were claims that chemical weapons were used in Northern Syria near aleppo. Another two sites that were not made public. It is a bit frustrating since we know this is all happening just a few kilometers from where their hotel is right now. What about the bloodshed it self . We heard one of the Syrian Opposition leaders claim there were 1300 killed in the suburbs of damascus in the past 24 hours. What have you heard so far . Pecks on the first day we cannot get the exact numbers because there is a state of chaos. We cannot get exact numbers, but i had to sources near damascus who were receiving some of those who were killed and that were wounded from nearby that allegedly came under attack, and another location adjacent. A doctor and another witness who i interviewed separately both told me that 64 or 65 people in the hospital in duma arrived either already dead or they died in the hospital shortly after they arrived. This is only in duma. There are also hospitals elsewhere in nearby towns that also received the wounded and those who died. So it is very worrying. The pictures that we are seeing and the video footage are all very worrying. That is why we are now at a stage of reviewing the videos and drawing together information about the symptoms of these people that were affected, to know what was done. We are working with and lots of limitations. That is why the serious government should allow unimpeded access to the u. N. Team investigating on the ground. The Syrian Government denies the mass killing of civilians and more specifically, the use of those chemical weapons. Everything that has been said is ridiculous and naive am a unscientific, illogical, and subjective. We mean what we are saying. It has not been any use of them at all. The military operation that has taken place on the ground is a successful one. Forces are making progress on all sides. What has forced them to fabricate this was there knowing that it was the first day of the mission. This fabrication was prepared in advance. Conspiracy theories also seem to be surfacing on twitter. Is assad dumb enough to use chemical weapons while the u. N. In specters are in damascus, or is it another dirty trick by the sunnis . What is your reaction when you hear comments like that . Just how difficult it is to piece together what has happened, less than 24 hours after the shelling has begun. The broader picture we are seeing as a result of the syrian civil war, there is a very disturbing rise of sectarianism, that is sunni versus shia. Just categorizing the other as illegitimate, you cannot exist. Dehumanizing them. That ties into this very serious charge of alleged use of a weapon of mass distraction, sarah andgas to kill the sunnis sarin gas to kill the sunnis. I think we will get enough videos and pictures that the International Public will be very outraged. Lets step back and think, what does this mean e we have rising secretary and is him and then we have the breaking of a taboo, of one side, the regime allegedly using a weapon of mass distraction against the other side. What does this mean to the future of war . This is so serious. I hate to compare it to what has happened in egypt for the last two weeks, but even if the numbers are not as high as 1300, just to see those Young Children with no injuries just lying there dead or motionless is a really scary proposition. I really do concur with the other speaker in london that if the u. N. Team that is only three kilometers away from where these things have happened cannot figure out a way to go and see those big ms, then to go and see those vick adamvictims, thek we have a serious problem. That has to be brought up at the u. N. By america. It happened the same day as the u. N. Chemical weapons inspectors arrived in damascus. What they are calling for is to give them permission to immediately access the site so we can get the fax. The facts. The russians are saying they are for letting those inspector. The russian line has been pretty consistent all along when it comes to chemical weapons. They are saying we have seen this before, we have seen allegations of chemical weapons being used by the regime and everyone using it to hit the regime over the head with. These are words used by officials today, premeditated provocation by the opposition and its foreign backers. A spokesman basically said this was reported by the official state news agency, he said that the warhead came from positions occupied by the rebel fighters. He said it is the same type i am repeating the words that were said during the Russian Ministry press conference. He said the same type of pattern and rocket was used in the march 19 alleged use of chemical weapons. He said it is a deliberate attempt to undermine any attempt to organize a peace conference and to basically use any pretext to turn the u. N. Security counsel against the assad regine to build a more solid block against the regime and more bad blood for assad. What youre describing is diplomatic at one point there seem to be a bit of wavering on the part of moscow. Theres an element within the Foreign Ministry you could say is just cynical, that perhaps does agree with a lot of what is being said in the west and suspicions that the regime really is involved in the use of chemical weapons. Part may be truly convinced by what they are saying. We have seen this before with the west. Go back to iraq on the go back to weapons of mass destruction. They look for any pretext to go after Saddam Hussein at the time. There are people who see it in the same terms without being cynical about it. Right now in russia there is a sense of it being russia against the west. That comes right down to the syria conflict. There have been cases in the past where allegations of use of chemical weapons have been misreported. That is true, but i think the difference here, one or two months ago we were talking about what is the real red line . When the first allegations back in march came of the use of chemical weapons. If these reports are true, and i dont know if they are true if the regime has used sarah and gas, youre not dealing with the war of terror, we are dealing with the war of annihilation. The sectarian war has gone to such a state where one side is trying to eliminate, annihilate the other side. This is a really sad day. Why this attack now at this particular place, the eastern and Southern Suburbs of the capital . You had the u. N. Delegation in homs where he attacked the people. He is challenging the world to see how far he can go. Obviously there is no red line. I would like to comment on the sectarian war that was initially in initiated by a side and then followed by the western media. It was never a secretary and more. It was a revolution. It was never a secretary in war sectarian war. We have proof over years and years just a plot to polarize people. I can see he has succeeded with the strategy, judging by what the western media is saying today. We dont know who to trust or what is going on. It is also the media. We have been calling the international media, calling everyone to come and investigate themselves. If it was us with a chemical weapon like russia says, why would we call the u n inspectors to come in and inspect the case . Whether or not it turns out to be the Bloodiest Day of syria possible war, what is certified as that last saturday saw the biggest single day exodus from the country. 10,000 people fleeing into iraqi kurdistan. 30,000 since last thursday. Kurdistan regional authorities suddenly open access to a bridge, now reportedly closed. What have you been able to gather as to why there was this sudden flood of people going in . We are still investigating the allegations. There are reports in Northern Syria, in areas or towns that are very close to turkey. There are clashes between kurdish troops and rebel groups believed to be islam is groups, basically. From the reports that we are receiving, and of course the investigation is still ongoing, there are very worrying reports about some killings of civilians, kurdish civilians. That is why we believe that one of the reasons possibly this is one of the reasons why they are fleeing in such large numbers. They are fleeing the areas because in some of the areas, they are finding it difficult to cross into turkey because the islam is armed groups are in control of the main exit areas to turkey. As we ask what the outside world is going to do about all of this, that brings us to the point that it is becoming more polarized, and throwing the cat in amongst the pigeons, a letter was leaked to a new york congressman on monday that was written by general martin dempsey. He said syria today is not about choosing between two sides, but rather about choosing one amongst many size. It is my belief that the site we choose must be ready to promote their interest and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Jonathan paris, there is really no won that general dempsey trust for the time being to really back militarily. I have tremendous respect for general dempsey. He is one of the most intellectual joint chiefs we have ever had. But i just dont agree with the logic that we are dealing with all these bad choices. There are degrees of badness here, and the regime is the worst of the choices. What we are doing by holding back is allowing the iranians, has the law, and the russians to actively aid and assist militarily, diplomatically, politically you name it. Who do you give the weapons to . We have the units that are not under control of the jihad east. We know who they are. They are mainly in southern syria on the jordan border. Saudi weapons are getting through to them. I dont understand the logic that just because it would be dangerous to go all in with boots on the ground, or nofly zones, we cannot do a lot of the Little Things to help get this war over. The longer the war goes, the better the bad guys that mr. Dempsey is worried about, the stronger they get, especially in the north and northeast. I say lets not look at it as a black and white ink. Lets look at the incremental steps we could take to hopefully win more people to our side when the thing is over and the rebels do win. Jonathan paris, i want to thank you for joining us from london. We will continue to follow this as it develops. He four we go, lets say hello to james. Before we go. We are looking at how this is playing out on social media. Many reports are authenticated by the associated press. This is the danger of social media, where you can have a photograph and then immediately terminology including it. How many times have you been on and said this photograph was really not from today, it was from years ago. It is very rapid in terms of getting information out but in terms of verification, it is another story. Here is a collection of four photographs and other photos here with the murders. Other photos with the chemical murders. We are open to the possibility that chemical weapons were not use, but i would like to know the stories behind these and authenticated photos of the bodies of dozens of children. That is the question many are asking and why so many are so quick to conclude that it was chemical weapons. Here are the symptoms of sarin gas listed out on a tweet. For example, hypo salivation is mentioned there. You dont necessarily see that in these photos exist that is a pretty specific symptom. Others on social media are saying the symptoms such as dilated pupils him to be more symptomatic of other infections. Giving a diagnosis looking at photos that may or may not be authenticated. Just in a couple of other images doing the rounds of social need you. This is what a syrian artist did, a gas mask with a a b asset fire the conclusion there that children are being killed due to chemical weapons. The official news agency has obviously denied the use of toxic gases in damascus completely. Interesting to look at the newly unveiled Instagram Account of bashar alassad. This was unveiled at the end of july. This is to try to respond to the antiassad messages coming through. In any case, worth pointing out that there has been complete silence on the Instagram Account today. The last post was on the 19th of august. Why have they not put up contrary information or denials or photographs with alternative hash tags . James, you are working on this and others are trying to sort out what is fact and what is fiction in all of this. We will continue to cover the story with our correspondence. I want to thank our panel and thank you for being with us here for this edition of the france 24 debate.