Surprise new movie, filmed before a Live Audience at the Murphy Theatre in wilmington, ohio, where there are 25,000 registered voters in the county and only 500 of them are registered democrats. This is not a film that is an hour and a half bashing trump. You already know everything about him. I do want to say what im going to vote for her. I have huge political disagreements with her. The obvious ones, the war, too cozy with wall street, etc. , etc. But there are also these things about her that i think are pretty decent and good. They never get talked about. Amy all that and more, coming up. Welcome to democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. In turkey, the two leaders and at least 10 other lawmakers of the leftist prokurdish People Democratic party, known as the hdp. Its the Third Largest party in the turkish parliament. Social media was also reportedly shut down across the largely kurdish Southeast Region of turkey. This comes amid a widening crackdown in turkey. Less than a week ago, the turkish government fired 10,000 civil servants, ordered 15 mostly kurdish news outlets to shut down, and raided the offices and detained a dozen journalists from an awardwinning newspaper on terrorism charges. In afghanistan, up to 30 civilians have been killed by natoled Coalition Airstrikes near kunduz thursday morning. The u. S. Called for the airstrikes in order to support the u. S. Special operations soldiers and afghan troops fighting the taliban in and around the city. Later thursday afghans marched , to the local governors office, carrying the corpses of their relatives, which included women and children. This is one of the family members of the victims. Seven people were killed from one family. My brotherinlaw and all of his family were killed in this attack. See their bodies here . All members of one family. Amy these killings come after two u. S. Soldiers were killed in kunduz earlier this week. With the u. S. Election is only days away, a new poll shows the majority of voters are disgusted by the election and think both major Party President ial candidates Hillary Clinton and donald trump are dishonest. The New York Times cbs news poll also shows clintons lead over trump has narrowed. This comes as Donald Trumps wife, melania, has given her first major speech since the Republican National convention. In her remarks in pennsylvania she said that as first lady she , would focus on decreasing Cyber Bullying and toxic social media culture. We have to find a better way to talk to each other, to disagree with each other, to respect each other. We must find better ways to honor and support the basic goodness of our children, especially in social media. It will be one of the main focuses of my work if i am privileged enough to become your first lady. Amy Melania Trump did not mention in her speech the frequent social media attacks launched by her husband, donald trump, whose combative twitter use over the years has included attacks on journalists, other women he has called dogs, and other candidates including Hillary Clinton once tweeting meanwhile, despite Melania Trumps expressed concern over social media bullying, she did not come to the aid of a journalist earlier this year who faced a barrage of death threats, holocaust references, and other antisemitic attacks on social media after writing a profile about melania for gq. Instead, melania said in an interview that journalist julia ioffe had provoked the harassment. In pakistan, at least 18 people have died after an oil tanker exploded at a gadani ship yard. Dozens more are still trapped inside the burning tanker, which has been ablaze since Tuesday Morning with the fuel inside the taker continuously feeding the fire. At least 200 refugees have drowned off the coast of libya in the last 48 hours as tens of thousands of refugees from syria, afghanistan, iraq, somalia, south sudan, and other wartorn areas continue to attempt the perilous trip across the mediterranean. At least 4220 refugees have died attempting this crossing so far this year more than in all of 2015. In new york city, a man has died after being repeatedly tased by a new york police sargent. Police say they arrived at 49yearold ariel galarzas apartment on wednesday after someone reported seeing a man who was emotionally disturbed holding a knife. When the police arrived, he did not have a knife but the police say he threatened them with a glass bottle. Sergeant William Melrose repeatedly tased galarza, who died from cardiac arrest later that night. In south carolina, judy scott, the mother of water scott, testified on the first day of the murder trial of white former Police Officer michael slager, who was caught on video shooting 50yearold African American walter scott in the back as he ran away. The jury includes 11 white men and women and one black man. And in denver, colorado, jury selection is slated to begin today in the retrial of clarence mosesel, an African American man who was convicted of rape in 1987 after a woman said she dreamed he was the man who raped and beat her in the dark. Mosesel has always maintained his innocence. In 2012, another man confessed to the attack. Mosesel was freed in 2015, but prosecutors have decided to retry him despite the other , mans confession. To see our interview with clarence mosesel after he was freed, go to democracynow. Org. Harvard university has announced it is canceling the rest of this years Mens Soccer Team season after it emerged the male soccer players had for years maintained a written scouting report on the woMens Soccer Team. The men ranked the womens appearances using pictures, numbers, and lengthy written evaluations. They also aside each of their fellow female students a sexual position. And those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. Today, with the president ial election just days away, we spend the hour with the Academy Award winning filmmaker Michael Moore, the director of roger me, fahrenheit 9 11, bowling for columbine, sicko, capitalism a love story, and where to invade next. He has just released a surprise new film. It is called Michael Moore in trumpland. Just hours ago i sat down with , Michael Moore in our new york city studios. We started with a clip from the trailer of his new film. A lot of people say that trump is a clown. If this is any indication of how mr. Trump is going to do, it is going to be lands wide for trump. I think is going to be close. I think hillary around here, i aint heard nobody for clinton. He didnt get it handed down to him like hillary did from her parents. Mr. President amount of first lady, Michael Moore . Michael moore will perform a oneman show tonight. I really wanted to invite people who are thinking of voting for donald trump. The ushers asked mexicanamericans if they would sit in a special mexican section. There will be a symbolic wall built around them in the balcony. What a mullah. Close enough. Three things nice about george w. Bush. Were all americans, right . Youn generally dont shoot unless you deserve it. Women what is she doing here . The rest of europe . There like, by felicia. You can say everything nice except for hitlers and matt lauer. , i think Hillary Clinton is a hell of a good woman. Donald j. Trump was sworn in today as the 45th president of the united states. Molotovbeing a human cocktail that they can throw. Mr. Trump i just left michael and he is a good man. He is done a good job. Amy michael filmed most of the movie and a two night stand before a Live Audience at the Murphy Theatre in wilmington, ohio. Wilmington is the county seat of clinton county, ohio, but it is hardly clinton country. There are 25,000 registered voters in the county and only 500 of them are registered democrats. In a moment, Michael Moore will join us in our new york studio. First, a bit more from trumpland. If hillary wins, the the women take over. Because they dont need as you know what this is going to lead to. Therell be internment camps for men. Hillary will have all of her, you know, wellesley students there with a clip boards checking is into the internment camp. They have to pick out a few to keep the speeches going. Who are they going to pick . The smart ones and the goodlooking ones. Im looking at faces here. We all going to be in the camp. Yes, you. Keep going. You. Oh, you. Over here. [laughter] yes, you. Keep going. You. Just because hes got a good sixpack for the abs . I was going to start going to the gym last month. Now youre going to the camp. Dont worry, theyre going to be lots of gyms in the guy camps. That is why theyre so upset. You have seen them at the rallies, these guys of the trump rallies . There like [groaning] dyingthe sound of the dinosaur. [groans] amy that is Michael Moore in trumpland. He is in studios in democracy now land. How much did you have to practice that dying groan . We had no chance for rehearsal. We filmed it as i did it for the first time. We were supposed to be in another ohio town used of columbus in licking county, ohio. When it was announced we were going to be there, the republicans got the board of the theater to go back on their word to let us perform this there and essentially banned me from the theater. I had to find another town very quickly. It took of a, so i did not have a chance to do any rehearsal. Andve spoken at colleges you have done this, too, but ive never done this ive never filmed this sort of thing. I wanted to do a oneman show in the u. S. For some time. Amy talk about the audience. Who was in the audience . 800 seats in the theater and we recruited this audience because i wanted a good mix of people. Half are hillary supporters. About 100, 150 trump people. There were 100 to 150 people who said there were planning on not voting. Slightly less than 100 people that were going to vote third party. I had quite a good mix of people. The trump voters i did not want the crazies because i did not want the show disrupted. The david duke worshipers were not in the building. We did go to union halls. I wanted to go to places to look for mostly guys, lets be honest, guys who used to or have voted for the democratic party. In this case, think of voting for trump. Fortunately, a lot of the women in the area brought their husbands or boyfriends and most of the women in the audience were very much in favor of hillary. You could see in the show, the guy sitting there like this. But they loosened up after a while. By the end of it, i think maybe a few of them maybe it brought them around a little bit. Amy you talk to them and you talk about the conservatives in the family. This is the one about everyone having a conservative in the family. You know, these trump voters are going to be up at 5 00 in the morning on election day. They were up at 5 00 in the morning a lot. Dealey time we see 5 00 in the morning is when we are out partying all night. [applause] everybody in here as a conservative in the family, right . Many of you brought that person with you here tonight. A brother, father, and uncle, a brotherinlaw, a sister not a sister. I know. I just threw that in there. [laughter] they are the organized one in the family. They never lose their car keys. The conservative they have books with a label by the back door. That is the key for the car Matthew Mcconaughey drives. Our side, were like, this is uh, where do so, you want to go eat tonight . I dont care, where do you want to go . I dont know, wherever you want to go. No, you picked last time. Seriously the conservative is, get in the car were going to outback. Get in there. Decisive organized disciplined thatave got to admire about them. Amy that is the Academy Awardwinning film maker Michael Moore and he is doing a oneman show in clinton county, which is actually trump land. Michael moore in trumpland. You are not guessing about how people think. You grew up in michigan. Right, and still live there. I am around a lot of people who are planning to vote for donald trump. , lot of people i grew up with a lot of them are guys and women me who are of this age and they are angry. They are angry for justifiable reasons. They got jobs in the auto factories and they lost those jobs. If they been able to get another job, theyre working for a lot less money. Some are working two or three jobs. They are really angry at the system. They see trump as their human molotov cocktail where they get to go in the voting booth next tuesday and just go beep. To the systemand because he is told them in his own words he is going to blow it up. Just sort of illegal act of terrorism. You get to go in, vote for a man who says he is going to blowup the system, and you who have been hurt by the system get to enjoy that. I have spent a lot of time in michigan and ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, what i call the brexit states. Amy explain why you call them that. Brexit was passed in large part because the White Working Class of industrial england and wales voted to leave europe because they wanted to send a message. Then they realized after it happened, it is like, oh, we actually have to leave europe now. Yes, you do. You held your anger management views in a voting with. That is not where you take care of your justifiable anger at the system. Amy and now they have just rolled, actually, the British Parliament has to vote on this. Right. Maybe there is a way out for them. But on tuesday, were not voting to leave europe. If you vote for donald j. Trump, youre essentially voting for america to leave america. We are asking you are basically saying, you know what . We want to leave behind whatever this is that we have just start over with him in charge. With him as the builder of this. To me, that is a frightening thought. Amy we will have more Michael Moore in a minute. [music break] amy this is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We continue our conversation with Michael Moore, Academy Award winning filmmaker. His latest film, in october surprise, is called Michael Moore in trumpland. I asked him if hes ever met republican president ial hopeful donald trump. I have only met him once, back in 1998. I think it was a clip of it in the trailer where i was on a talk show with him. Amy whose talkshow . Sam ba roseanne barr. She came to new york for a week and she invited me to come on. Donald trump is the other guest. The producer says, im really sorry, but mr. Trump is very nervous about you being on the show and he is afraid youre going to attack him. I said, let me talk to him. He sitting in the corner, ill go talk to him. I am michaelump, moore. I understand you are a little worried. There is nothing to worry about. 1998, so i dont know that much about trump. He built some buildings. I said, were here to have fun with roseanne. You dont have to worry. Im shaking his hand and it is claiming. The guy is so nervous. My job is, i have to call him down. We will have some fun. Im trying to help the producer out because they are afraid he is going to walk. He goes, no, no, it is just that, i just dont want to go , itsd, you know, i said not that kind of show. Dont worry will stop we go out on the show and i dont go after him on anything. I just leave him alone. When it was over, and i did not think this until actually this past year where i thought, that guy is good. I got played. He got me to not bring up any of his craft crap on that show because i felt sorry for him. I thought, this guy is good. This guy did not get to where he got by being stupid. He is not stupid. Me to not say anything political, do anything political , and just have, you know, a councilaugh fest on the couch on the roseanne show. Amy when you made this, it was right around the time women were coming forward saying he assaulted them. It was just breaking. Yes. Actually, that performance in the film is literally for hours after the billy bush tape is revealed. Tape. Just watched this ive not heard any of the pundits or anything. I just watched the tape and now on going out on stage. When you see the film, theres a portion where i talk about women of hillarys age and women of that generation who grew up in essentially the first feminist of the modern feminist era in the 1960s and early 1970s and what they went through to be feminists and the crap they had to take as a result of that. Film, i i watch the know what is playing in my head is i just had watched this godawful conversation that trump was having with billy bush. I mean,o vile and so lets be honest. There is nothing he said on that tape that was surprising, you know, i cant believe donald trump said these things. No. I was not surprised by billy bush, w. s first cousin, that he was trying to pimp tru other. Wasusawful. Wi the dr. Frankenstein and said, we want to create a candidate that embodies all of the worst traits of men, rich people, and white people and put them all into one candidate. And here we have donald j. Trump. Anyway, if you go back and watch that tape, we know the vile comments and attitude and we know now he is confessed Central Province he is a confessed sexual predator, but it is when he tries to get off the bus. He doesnt know how to get off the bus. Look at the tape. He knocked on the door of the bus. I went, oh, my god, this is the first time in his life he is ever been on a bus. This man has never ridden a bus. That should be a disqualifier for being president of the united states. No president should we should never elect anyone who is never been on a freaking bus. I went out on stage and performed and filmed this piece. Amy lets go in a different direction to the part of Michael Moore in trumpland were you talk about beyonces halftime performance at the super bowl. Anthropologist will know the moment it happens, when it was there that men were on the way out and women were on the weight in, and it was the super bowl this past year. It is halftime show, coldplay is playing one of the nice songs. And then bruno mars came on. That sort of confused a lot of guys watching the halftime show. What is this . And then all of a sudden in the middle, outcomes jan say and 5 beyonce and 500 women in these uniforms with their fist clenched and raised and kicking boots on kicking the[bleep] and a was like, oh, wait, that is our game. What is she doing here . And guys know it and that is why they are the trump rallies. That is why you hear that sound [groaning] donald, save us. The women are coming. Amy michael . What was the response from the audience . It was well received, even by the guys. The guys know it. See, listen, this is not a new thing where women are in charge or women 20 of our congress is female, so the majority gender now has 20 of the power. Even though there are 51 of the population. Men have had to get used to this i think for a while. Some of the guys are having a very hard time. Even obama referenced them a couple of days ago worry said, guys, i know this is not something youre used to, a woman in the white house, 240 years we have done it one way. Sometimes people are nervous about change and they want it a certain way, but you know what . These guys who have a problem with hillary, with women in general, theyre going to have to get over it. Just like when you and i were growing up, i remember my parents taking us to the south and there were signs that said colored only. Then there was a law and they had to take the signs down. Racism did not go away, but the proponents of it and the people who held power with these attitudes either have to change or move out of the way because a new generation was coming up. That is what is so great about this generation, young people 18 to 35, the bernie revolution, that they are the ones in charge now. They will be in charge. I am optimistic about this because every year, 3 million 17yearold turn 18, which mean they are voters. In these next four years before the next president ial election, there will be 12 million more young voters. They are not haters. The majority of these young people, that is why theyre driving this whole thing. It is why we have a Different Society now that is not so hateful to gay people and of people of color. It doesnt mean it has gone away, but it is better because we have young people now steering the carla bit. Amy do you think of the media had given as much time to Bernie Sanders as they did to donald trump, given as much time to Bernie Sanders as they did to the empty podium when they were waiting for donald trump for all of the months of the primary i mean, he was getting more people to his speeches without the help of the media megaphone and even donald trump was and Hillary Clinton was. Do you think it is possible that it would have been very different since they both represented something outside the system . Oh, absolutely. In fact, i mean, my hope was on tuesday we would have the great decision, the choice between the socialist and the billionaire. Amy do you think is a billionaire . He likes to call himself that. Sometimes you have to humor people that they have things that they dont have. Yes, i will let him, out of respect for him as a human being. Listen, oh, my god, of course i worked very hard for bernie. I went up to burlington and campaign for him in 1990 when you first won for congress. I was the only quasia person at that time who would go up there and campaign for him. I have known him a long time. States won 22 states in the primaries and caucuses. I said, i know we are all kind of bummed about this and the dnc cheaters cheaters him a Debbie Wasserman schultz, there will be more of them that will come out. We will learn a lot more. But we will set that aside for a moment and just like we have to feel some joy and celebrate what we accomplished. 22 states. In our lifetime, voted for a socialist. That was an amazing thing that happened. And then the candidate who gets nominated, Hillary Clinton, she adopts over two thirds of his platform as part well, she puts it in her own words in terms of raising the minimum wage. She does not say free college, she says that free college. Go down the list in terms of paid maternity leave, women being paid the same as men all of these issues that we care about, we did not get everything ,e wanted, but we got listen 1998i worked for Jesse Jackson when he ran for president. He won a lot of primaries. Dukakis was the nominee. How much of jesses platform did dukakis put in as part of his . I dont remember anything. We were able to move the ball down the field. Hillary did not become more conservative as a democrat, she became more liberal. Amy well, she was running in the primaries. Well, now she is not going to win without us on tuesday. That is the bottom line. She is not going to win without young people. Heres one thing we know now. We know how africanamericans, hispanics are going to vote. Amy are you concerned not as many africanamericans are going out early voting as expected . That is why today Hillary Clinton is going to detroit because in detroit, one of the polls i read from detroit is that she had lost 11 points of africanamerican voters in detroit. Not that theyre going to trump, but probably just not going to vote. Siren going a huge off in the Clinton Campaign because once again they have ignored certain constituencies that they should not have ignored. They took it for granted and treated bernie very poorly in the primaries about somehow she was for africanamericans and he wasnt or, you know, i mean, its all history from the time he was in College Getting arrested at civil rights to administration, you know, when she her freshman year is head of the college republicans. I felt bad for him that he had to suffer through all of those things he did as a young person to stand up when it wasnt up for in 1963 to stand certain things. Amy lets go to another clip of Michael Moore in trumpland. I got a surprise for you tonight. Someone from the Trump Campaign has leaked us a copy of their new ad. The diseases. She is have them all. Pneumonia, allergies, east infection, urinary tract discomfort, pregnancy, childbirth, time of month disorder, bleeding from wherever disease and menopause. Do you want a commander in chief whose lady parts are out of control . Or do you want a buff leader who will he be healthiest resident ever. Ever. Even healthier than teddy roosevelt, and he was shot in the chest. To, there is only one candidate spawn an entire new breed of humans. Vote trump. He never gets sick. Mr. Trump i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i would not lose any voters, ok . That sick. Mr. Trump im donald trump and i approved this so message. Amy Michael Moore . Yeah, you know, i was elected class comic when i was a senior in high school. Hope. Used it well, i amy but he is doing much better than you might have thought, especially now even since you gave these speeches in ohio. Well, yes. I said since the summer, people should taken seriously. I said a year and a half ago when he announced, this is going to be the republican nominee for president. It is probably because i watch a lot of tv, so im one of the people on the left directly watched Celebrity Apprentice and american idol. When it comes to voting, everyone thinks Jennifer Hudson won american idol. It was fantasia. This is what can happen when americans vote. I watched bachelorette with caitlyn. Surprises you have lived in her lifetime with elections . I was stunned the actor whose costar was a chimpanzee to get elected president twice. He was called tricky dicky before he was elected twice. Then w. It wasnt amy first your talking about Ronald Reagan and then richard nixon. For those who had their head in the sand for three decades. Amy or just recently born. Thats true. These were actual president s that were elected president. Then this guy named george w. Bush, during one of the debates when he was asked who the president of pakistan was he general, general general. We elected that guy well, once. The other time he wasnt elected. Anything can happen in this country. It can happen in ways minnesota. I consider you have traveled the country, right . It is one of the smarter states. What i call the smart states oregon. Amy i just came back from north dakota. That is a wonderful state. Anything that borders or is near canada, i dont know, theres something that comes down the people have im just saying, in minnesota, they elected a professional wrestler as their governor. Can donald j. Trump be elected in this country as president . Absolutely. I do not believe the polls. Primary day in march in michigan, that morning, i turned on the tv come all of the National Polls had hillary beating bernie from eight points to 22 points. 12 hours later, bernie defeated her. Ever since and i said, man, these polls, i dont trust it. Do not trust it. I think there under counting the trump support. Amy arent they counting people who voted in the last election and most likely voters, and a lot of people outside of the system do not vote when theyre disenchanted. Thats right. The angry voter is coming out next tuesday. Where i live, usually, the election is the first week of november. This is the second tuesday. Does take a week of november in michigan is called the second week of november in michigan is called winter. The chance of their being snow is great. That means low voter turnout. Is already going to be low because people are fed up with the choices. Who wins a low voter turnout . The person has the most rabid supporters. I would not call the supporters of Hillary Clinton rabid. I you ask people to vote was talked if you plan your office for the purity going to vote for . Im going to vote for hillary. Wow, theres a ringing endorsement. Support goes from, yeah, im voting for hillary, to, yeah, screw it, im going to vote for hillary. Amy you take a very different type. Lets go to another clip from Michael Moore in trumpland. Knocks on hillary . Not trustworthy. How did she prove her distrust worthiness to you . Did she promised to water the plants for you while you were gone and then did not . Well, she flipflops. Everybody changes. Everybody evolves i hope they do, right . We want our trump voter friends and your tonight, we were asking them to maybe change. If you just stay in cement, it is ok, so she has learned. She fought gay marriage and then she was for it. I would rather that and staying against gay marriage. I dont think that is a bad thing. She said her iraq war vote was wrong. Doess never done a thing anything more wrong than that. Im sorryactly but she is a politician. I will accept that. What are the other knocks on hillary . Benghazi. She got up in the middle of the night and personally planned with isis, which she and obama created according to trump, they invented isis, and they planned this attack to kill our people there at the consulate in benghazi. Cleared of the charges six times. Oh, that is not enough. If you are Hillary Clinton, yet to be cleared eight times. The Clinton Foundation. Thank god theres a Clinton Foundation. Look at all of the good they have done. [applause] if what they say is true, so they get to have a meeting with hillary, what she is still Hillary Clinton. Is not like they can go in and yemen. Need you to bomb ok, how much did you get the Clinton Foundation . I gave the Clinton Foundation 50 million. That is not what is going on. Amy Michael Moore in trumpland. Do you think you reached the people who you want to make not just dont want trump, but want to be enthusiastic about hillary . This is not a film spending an hour and a half bashing trump. Theres nothing more need to say about trump. I did want to say what im going to vote for her. I have huge political disagreements with her. The obvious ones, the war, too cozy with wall street, etc. , etc. , but there are also these things about her that i think are pretty decent and good. They never get talked bout. No person is just one way. One of my hopes i address hillary directly in the camera during the peace piece, hoping she will see this. I want to tell her were hoping she will be different from the past. Im hoping that will happen. I may be a cockeyed optimist here, im fully aware she is a politician and she is a clinton and all that, but i also theres too much at stake at this point. Look, we live in a country. Canada has five Political Parties with 4 million people. We have two. Two parties that are treated like parties. We need three and four and five to represent the Broad Spectrum of people. We have to fix the system. We say this every four years and then forget about it. We get to more choices. What i used to call the evil of two lessors. Were all tired of this. We cant fix it by tuesday. Wem willing to accept havent decent enough have a decent enough victory with what Bernie Sanders had to say it were going to build on that. Vote for the asked to Margaret Thatcher here. Were not being asked to vote for Clarence Thomas or whoever the first token is that is presented to us that is always some awful choice. She is not that. In fact, i think she stood for a lot of good. Health care, what she tried to do. Amy Academy Awardwinning film maker Michael Moore, his new film, Michael Moore in trumpland. We will come back to our conversation in a minute. [music break] amy howlin shame by adia victoria. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. As we continue our conversation with Michael Moore, Academy Award winning filmmaker. His newest film is Michael Moore in trumpland. He talked about Hillary Clinton dance on health care, something he knew well for making his jericho sicko. Rumplan remember how she was vilified and attacked. She pushed ford back in 1993 and she had her head cut off and she was told to go back in the white house, be the first lady, and shut up. It was brutal. Do remember this . . Amy mean people set them as with obamacare, she would not include people who are true advocates, single care, health care for all. She did not understand the politics of when you want to make Something Like that happen, it has to work from the bottomup, not the top down. Had she aligned herself with grassroots activists and all that yes, her strategy was not good. That was her own need to take with it. When to become a senator, she took money from some pharmaceutical companies and she wasnt that same person anymore. So now i feel to her, if she is elected, to do the right thing. Amy you met her. What i was invited to the white house for a dinner when bill was the president. I told the story in the film about my evening at the white house. Timesher a couple of since, just being in new york here at events or whatever. Have you ever met her . Have you ever been in the room with her . She is actually a very personable and very nice and funny. She is a great sense of humor. That you otherwise would not normally see. Amy have they asked you to go out on the campaign trail . Oh, god, they want nothing to do with me. Amy talk about the white house. Met her and build together in 1998, the night before his impeachment. So he looked like crap. They announce you coming in the room. The person before me is a marine in dress uniform. Madam firstt and lady, the chairman of General Electric welch. He is in front of me. We are told, you have five seconds, shake their hand, Say Something nice, get the hell out of there. He does his marine grip. Mr. President and madam first lady the marine is going, uh, Michael Moore . So i walk in and i shake his and grabs my hand and goes, Michael Moore, oh, i just love tv nation. I love that show. I remember that one episode when you and idaho step he is recounting obscure episode. Im thinking, these clintons are really good. Like, he is a story for everybody in line. Roger, im just your number one fan. She grabs my hand out of his hand and says, no, youre not, i am his number one fan. She takes my hand and grexit. I just want to thank you that what you wrote in that chapter in your book, the first book at that time the 1990s amy your love letter to hillary . I felt so bad how she was being treated. She was being mocked for what she wore in her hair. She is a woman, so she gets all of this shade thrown at her. We did not call it shade back then. Anyway, she said, thank you. And the first line in that chapter my face is turning red if people knew me, i am kind of a shy person. My face is turning red. The line was, and you may have to bleep this, Hillary Clinton ] feminist [bleep babe. She said, i really like what you wrote and what he said about me on the today show. The aid things im holding up the line, but she wont let me go. Anyway, i say little joke afterwards. Basically, yes, that was my First Encounter with Hillary Clinton and not us and one with al gore, but i met him finally like three years after he won i mean lost, i mean lost, i mean one. I was a National Giving a speech and he heard a was there anybody me over for breakfast the next morning and it went over to his house. Theer and all our cooking eggs and bacon. The guy was so funny post up so personable. The opposite of what we saw. I could not help myself. At the end of the two hours i said, al, how can we didnt see this guy . Why do we see the stiff . Why didnt you be yourself . He goes, i know. I know. [laughter] amy for all of this, michael, i want to go back to what you said about bernies anders when you first endorsed him. You said, hillary says bernies planes are not realistic or pragmatic. This week she said singlepayer will never, ever happen. Never, ever jacob why not just give up . Villars says it is not practical to offer free college for everyone. You cannot get more practical than the germans and they can do it. Clinton does find ways to pay for war and tax breaks for the rich. Hillary clinton was for the war in iraq, against gay marriage, for the patriot act, for nafta, was to put ed snowden in prison. That is a lot to wrap ones head around, as ashley when you have Bernie Sanders as an alternative. You will be the opposite. There many good things about hillary, but it is clear she is to the right of obama and will move us backwards, not forward. This would be sad post up very sad. And then she had to run against bernie for all of those months and she had to start changing her tune. She had to start agreeing with him because she was not going to win. Even with all of their cheating at the dnc, all of their superdelegates, there was a chance he was going to pull this off. She had to either get with the words, forin other the majority of americans were after. The majority of americans want universal singlepayer health care, want a paid maternity leave, white free college for their kids want free college for the kids. In order for her to pull that off, she either had to start agreeing with the majority of americans in his presence and his presence pushed her and pushed her towards better positions to take. We could say, that is all they are, positions. You are right. We wont know what shes going to do until she is in there. The onus is on us. On november 9, if shes elected, november 9, do we, whether the bernie revolution, green revolution, whoever it is, do we get active right away and make sure she does the things she says shes going to do . Or do we do like we did after obama got elected . There was this big election to elect a man whose middle name was hussein and we got him elected. It was young people who got him elected. The largest turnout in history of 18 to 35. He will say that. It was the youth vote that made that happen. We sat back. What happened a month after obama is elected . He appoints Timothy Geithner is that treasury secretary and Larry Summers is the economic head. Do you remember that feeling . Nobody got active. Nobody state active. There was a silence during those two years when we had the house in the senate. We thes a mistake that people, the grassroots, did not stay active and stay on his case. He goes up to capitol hill and he is cool by yahoo kum bayah. He wasnt phony. We needed some of you with some boots on that was going to go up there and kick some butt and get he diddone and w and not do it. We stayed silent. We got active after her we lost the house and senate. What happened the next year . Occupy wall street. A couple of years after that . Black lives matter. Movements began during the obama years that are thriving today whether we call ourselves occupy wall street or not, we changed the whole dynamic and the American Public understands the 1 versus the 99 . Amy as people are making their decision to vote for, and it may just not be between trump and henry clinton, it is also about whether to even go out to vote. I want to get your response to Glenn Greenwald of the intercept discussing heather clintons foreignpolicy. Whats one of the most notable parts of clintons approach to foreignpolicy that has gotten relatively little attention is that one of the few areas where she has been openly critical of president obama has been by complaining that he has been insufficiently militaristic or belligerent or aggressive in a number of areas, in particular in syria, where he criticized him in her book and also in interviews for not doing enough in syria to stop the syrian dictator assad from brutalizing the syrian people. She has advocated, secretary clinton has, a nofly zone which could lead to military confrontation with russia who is flying over syria and Michele Flournoy in an interview made clear she believes not only in a nofly zone, but more active boots on the ground in syria, american boots on the ground. Given the russians are already there, that there is isis there, there are al qaeda elements, there is still an ongoing civil war, it would be extremely dangerous to involve the u. S. Further in military involvement in syria and yet you president obama, who himself has been very militaristic. He has bombed seven predominantly muslim countries in the last seven years. Yet secretary clintons critique of his foreignpolicy is in every case that he is not aggressive enough, not militaristic enough. Syria in particular, they seem to be itching to involve the u. S. A lot more directly and a lot more aggressively in that conflict. That was Glenn Greenwald. Michael moore . Thank god for Glenn Greenwald. Ive said the same thing. She is a hot. She is to the right of obama. That is the truth. For us to prevent whatever war she might be thinking of getting us into, we are going to have to be active. We should be that way all the time no matter who was in the white house. But we are being given this awful choice on tuesday of which war do you want the war hillary will start or the war donald j. Trump is going to start . One of them is going to be the president. I resent amy donald j. Trump just that if the clinton is going to bomb in hillary is a mess. Trust me, we cant even imagine the kind of conflicts he is going to get us into. This is a 12yearold narcissist that is going to be sitting behind the desk in the oval office. With a very thin skin and a lot of hate in him. Yes, were being asked to pick a certain poison. That old exercise of, you are in a lifeboat and olli rehn for one more and it has to be either hitler or mussolini. Amy but you say it is not that choice. Im not a proponent of scaring people into voting for hillary is the only reason. Are aboutr ads scaring people. Instead of saying positive things shes going to do and shes going to do positive things. The revolution needs to be there to support her when she does the right things and to challenge her when she doesnt. I say in the film, you know, if she doesnt do this, we cant wait like we did with obama. We have to be active and we are going to run some but it against her in the next election. Were going to run people in the midterms that are going to oppose her. Democrats that will oppose her in congress. Were going to have to do that. Our work is not over. Amy and the fact republicans are saying the minute if elected, they will be investigating her and theyre talking about possible impeachment . Theyre always going to behave like republicans. The difference between her and obama, she is not going to go out there and hold hands with them. She is not going tos kumbayah and try to find a great compromise. She is a woman of my generation. Im in the second half of the baby boom, she in the first half. I dont know where you fall. You are way too young to be in any baby boom. Im just saying, if you know or you have friends i grew up in , she knows what she is been through as a woman in this society. She has not forgotten this. I cant see her signing a single piece of legislation that is going to say, we, the government, have control over your reproductive organs, or something that is when a hurt children. , the intercept, we need you. I should keep making movies. Amy in fact, you say you may well be running in 2020 . I said i will offer myself up. If she goes back on what she says shes going to do, if she does not adopt two thirds of bernies positions like she says shes going to do, then either i 202o. Ye will run in amy Michael Moore. Michael moore in trumpland. That does it for the show. A very happy birthday to andre lewis it is the big one. Number 30. Happy birthday. Tune in tuesday for our five hour special tuesday night. Democracy now is hiring interns. The application deadline is november 18. 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