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Beyond you because you're concerned because you say. Because you say. Well. You. Should. Should overload our news from the formation overload our Glad you with a Sean Hannity Show so with the stroke of a pen there we go there is everybody working on the Keystone x.l. Pipeline Yeah they all got the canceled if you will other words they lost their high paying career job with the stroke of Biden's pen but I did notice the Biden is sending 4000000000 to Mexico but yet Americans are still waiting for his cold relief and he can't exactly figure out how many doses of the vaccine they have a where they are. How many they need but he moves forward with his radical socialism every single day in his plans now he's going to replace the federal fleet with American made electric vehicles can't wait to drive those suckers anyway but just think about it for a 2nd now we've got Kovan now we have a lot of people that are out of work we have a lot of businesses that have died on the vine and many of them are not going to be able to come back. I mean it's just been disastrous not only the pandemic but then of course the oppressive shutdowns in states like New York California and elsewhere I'll tell you again it's Florida governor De Santis has done the best job I think of anybody and also Christie nomo South Dakota their unemployment rate is now lower than pretty covert and she she never had a shutdown She just told people pay attention follow the rules and look out for each other and we're all going to be better off and they've had hot spots and moments and and breakouts like everybody else in the country but it's just managed a lot better now it's granted it's smaller less dense population you've got a you had a you can't compare it exactly to New York City or Los Angeles but you know there's a good lessons to be learned here Florida you can pretty high concentration of of elderly people and most of Florida at different places. But you know you think right so now we've got a lot of people out of work now we're trying to get the economy up and running maybe they 1st organize the vaccine that would be helpful and then we're going to legalize 11 to however many 1000000 of illegal immigrants in the country and pretty much stop Wall construction of working on the border wall you're getting a layoff notice if you haven't gotten it yet as of today and all these people displaced. And I tried to warn everybody before the election I told you what Joe and. Connel we're going to do I told you that there were going to be beholden to the left wing radicals of their party and I mean they will flip and flop and flail and all over the place I told you fracking is going away I told you the close and more I told you the the pipelines will be shut down and I told you it's a plan that will make the Middle Eastern countries that hate our guts rich again it will make Russia rich again and even China rich again and it's all coming true because we will be depending going to be paying more for energy at the pump more for a gallon of gas and more for your heating of your home just buckle up it's going to go up it's going to go up dramatically there's my prediction. But for the people that now they're putting out of work and displacing I you know I tried to warn everybody but they were saying contradicting themselves left and right and even lying to us listen and not not not Fannie and Frankie period but you know I want you to just take a look Ok you don't have to agree but I want to look in my eyes. I guarantee you I guarantee you we're going to end fossil fuel and I am not going to cooperate more no new fracking would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and fracking and by ministration. No I really regret it we work it out we would make sure it's a limited and no more subsidies for either one of those are you committed to implementing a federal ban on trucking your 1st day in office in the United States the list of countries who have banned Stepaside in practice no question I'm in favor of banning fracking no question whatsoever no I really got really angry because we've talked at length about you know how this is these are high paying career jobs and is being wiped away is what people who judge said about people down just being fired so for those workers the answer is somebody else will get a job the answer is that we are very eager to see those workers continue to be employed in good paying union jobs even if they might be different ones Ok Joining us now is Neil Crabtree and Neal by the way is a welding foreman he began working on the Keystone x.l. Pipeline construction project as an apprentice in 1997 and obviously didn't particularly like it because he now found out in the last week that his job his livelihood is been ripped away from him. And he joins us now Neal thank you for being with us again like you were on t.v. Last night briefly and I want to go into more depth today on radio we have more time on radio. Tell us number one. Tell us a little bit about your background how long you've been doing this what exactly you do if you made your way to form and that's that means you've been working hard I would assume. Yes Sir Sean thanks for having me on again I know I started this career right out well done 2 years of the army and then after that I've been doing this is 997 you start off as an apprentice in this industry and. You know you work your way up you learn how to weld you do the things you do to develop the skills you know to to get to a point and allow for your mike and enough money where you can start a family build a house. Now it seems like it's all been taken away from us here in the last week or so you said on a Facebook post that you felt a sick feeling in your stomach an aching in your heart you admitted to breaking down crying in your truck right after you had to lay off your team how many members on your team well we're you know we've been trying to get this pipeline built for almost 10 years now we were just in the early stages but my part of the construction was scheduled to start you know there in the spring and the summer but at the time we got the notice there were probably $100.00 on the project that I was alone and it's like it was about 8 other you know pumping stations being constructed at the time but. You know the president was able to you know lay behind us all for the piano but you know I'm the one that had to let these guys on you know so I got a little emotional. I had to go for them how did they react. Well I mean they're just as devastated as I am you know these guys what I call them you know to come to work that kind of can only trust me. It makes me feel bad even though I had nothing to do with it but. You know being a foreman you said you had to be in that situation so you got laid off with your guys is not like you tell no yes our you know we don't think like they're going to keep our job so we're all we're all finished let me ask you know when you have 3 kids that you're raising correct How old are your children I just want something graduated last year I'm going to the certainly is a senior this year and then a senior in college or a high school high school school. And still got to that depend only on another one he's got. These kids depend on a still in perpetuity I'm beginning to learn you know I mean is there any end to being a parent it never stops. Like it gets more expensive though they're like yes. That's true it's really true don't make the mistake I made is letting my gamer son have access to my credit card because apparently I already been there and I'm like What the hell is this like but I wanted to build a bigger and better team and I just bought a couple things I'll make a couple of things nearly a $1000.00 I said and you all would to me Go work. Anyway but how did your kids react. Well I had to stay gone work and you know a lot of the time this thing something we do right here travel a lot and I don't get to see them nearly as much as I should. You know they're just as upset as I am I mean the process of actually trying to build a house is about halfway done. My Pentagon plans on hold right now I'm not even though so let me a so let's talk about your next step and obviously that you know you had mentioned in the Fox News dot com article that you know this is your career and you know what did you think of people to judge what we want to get another union job I'm like Ok we're in the day in this day and age of Coleridge where jobs are scarce to begin with and I'm going to legalize you know 11000000 at least people that didn't respect our laws our borders our sovereignty they're going to be competing for jobs driving wages down can you tell maybe Mr Boot a judge can give you a call and tell you where that next great union job is because I have no idea what to tell you to go out and I don't believe he does neither you know I always kind of find it funny when the government says they're going to create all of these jobs. It's not the government that creates the jobs this is the private sector that creates the jobs the only jobs the government creates are usually taxpayer funded so to me that's not even creating a job in the taxpayers are footing the bill for it so. But you know get out of the way and let the private sector this country get us back on track. This is going to do it now we're going to be reliant on imported oil from countries that maybe don't even like us we're all going to be paying more for gas and for heat it's going to have a ripple effect on the economy do you mind if I ask you don't have to answer this question but this is a real job you're a member of the pipeline ors local union 7981 of 4 union unions whose members are going to be out of work here. Can I ask a round what you when you guys you know if you want to talk about you person right you know some of your top guys what are they pulling down a year. It worked you know we're talking $100000.00 a year jobs in this career you know it's it's tough because you've got to be away from home and a lot of that money you spend you know it lodging in your bills while you're on the road so you're I can as much as you think you are but they're still there good paying jobs and when you are no these are also career jobs I mean this is your car you can retire have a retirement have health care at the end of the road right. That's that's probably my biggest concern right now is you know with our industry you've got to work so many hours a month to keep your health care coverage. With them shut down and not be able to work to do that I have to go buy your own insurance which is going to be hard to do when you're not mad to cost of it is astronomical it's I'm telling you I just know you know I don't know you see because I mean you've got you had a great career job here and I would assume that defense spending also is going to be cut back that's not going to help welders either so you know what I'm going to do is we're going to figure out a way to put on my website Hannity dot com. There's so many great people the lesson of this radio show I'm proud of our audience and we're just going to put out feelers and I'd say to anybody that needs good workers is there a particular region of the country that you work in that you build your house and I want to get too specific but you know what you know around where home base is can you tell us where I live in Arkansas but the thing about our industry is we we travel all a lot of work in almost every state the country except for maybe how why so for the kind of people that are talking about traveling to work it is no problem at all is that the jobs are there. And so what I want to do is we're going to put it we're going to put it on Hannity dot com and I can't guarantee you going to be able to match a salary but maybe maybe we can get you something local in keep your head above water maybe it's just you know temporary bridge job I don't know what it will be I know you probably want to work you don't feel like staying home every day and watching soap operas right now that they think the kind of people that you know how they want their work and unemployment where are. You guys had a heart and. You're the heart and soul of the country and then if we can help you if anybody looking for good workers I don't care what it is. I know we probably can't match your current salary but maybe just just you know keep keep your head above water not go into debt temporarily until maybe something something opens up or develops. And if there's anything anybody can do we're going to figure out a way to connect the 2 of you I will say this and I notice you didn't want to go there last night but it really pisses me off that your union supported by didn't because this was one o one what he was going to do and I knew it and then he would explain something. I'll tell you what why don't you answer this on the other side I'm just sorry your union supported the wrong side on this and on but I'll let you defend them on the I'm not I'm not trying to be a union basher here I'm just you know they should've stuck up for their guys because this was predictable what happen Stay right there will continue more Neil Crabtree lost his job career job Keystone x.l. 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Donald Trump is trying to distort Joe Biden's position on this because he's desperate to be running against anybody but Joe Biden that's been true from the start of this primary Look he as the as Joe Biden said on the debate stage he is not going to end the fossil fuel industry he's going to end subsidies for the oil industry he believes that your taxpayer dollars should go to education Donald Trump believes they should go to Exxon that's that is a contrast in a conversation that we're willing to have any day might we continue Neil Crabtree he is a welding Foreman just got notice that he and his entire team about $100.00 guys laid off from the Keystone x.l. Pipeline and we continue now with Neil So you answer the question you're union supported by did I don't like it I don't want to defend them yes or 1st of all I have to it's plain that you know there's a lot of different unions in this country. Now and union which is pop honors local union 78 round of toso but we are part United so serious and but our members we have about 7000 members and I can promise you that 90 to 95 percent of supported President Charlotte me ask you this I feel the same way that you do have a couple of minutes to hold you through the break on the other side I want to get into this more deeply Crabtree Hannity dot com If anybody can help him or any of these 100 guys who are laid off more on the other side and your calls 80941 Sean next. You are listening to the best of the Sean Hannity Show and stay tuned more memorable moments interesting guests and a lot of fun coming up next. 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And I warned everybody this was going to happen we were asking the question on the other side though why did the union support Biden because union takes rank and file guys money and you would tell me Neal that 9095 percent of the guys in your union voted for Trump so your union leadership was at odds politically with rank and file members and. No thoughts on that. Not really correct either my local union leaders felt the same way we do you know but we do belong to the USA and there was a heated argument about you know who they should backing out of a lot of people over under the feeling that. He was so divided that shouldn't indorse anybody if I'm referring to the USA but they did and. Let the Us leadership explain that but I can just speak for my my home local and my home leaders we backed president almost 100 percent that's a fact well does it frustrate you as it does mean not your local union guys that were with you Ok Will will give them props but the national union reps were at odds with a lot of rank and file members the pay dues like you I mean a fuss like I had to be part of a union to be on radio in New York I can't be on the air without being a part of the Union Believe it or not I don't care I mean they haven't done anything to me. And nor are they giving me anything either but putting that aside. You know it's just the rules I just kind of you know there's only so many so many fronts I can battle on and I got to pick and choose my battles in life but but if they're at the national leadership is that out of touch with rank and file that bothers me that doesn't bother you. It does bother me I mean me personally I feel the Democratic Party left the working American a few decades ago. When I was younger I was voting Democrat I actually voted for Obama his 1st term I didn't vote for him the 2nd term I supported Trump. And I was supporting Trump when he ran for reelection but yes it does it does frustrate me but I can like I said I can only speak for my. My members at my home local. But it is tradition Well it wasn't I mean it with all my heart we're going to put up on Hannity dot com. Awaiting for people they have jobs around the country or in the Oklahoma area or Arkansas area rather But you will want to go anywhere for a good job your welding Foreman you have other great workers you can bring along with you maybe a shipyard somewhere maybe some projects some place and some business that needs real craftsmen like yourself career people. Will try and put you together and it's not going to be easy in this environment considering that the the specialty that you have but you know hopefully we can do something to help you guys out a little bit I can't guarantee but we're going to try and guarantee that or I'm sure there's Townsend appreciate it but so and I'm not done with this yet I'm behind it what are you going to do you know you can't waste your time picketing because it was going to go to the White House so the sign of waste your days because nothing's going to happen son and I'm tired of arguing with Byron Mentalist and Democrats that are set in their ways the next 2 years my main focus is to reach out to the 80000000 registered voters in this country who did not vote that I believe that the majority of them are people like me that are Didn't rule areas that think government you know doesn't really affect them that much and they don't bother to tell you today it does reach you and there's 80000000 registered voters the didn't vote last year Sean in that election and that's who I want to reach out to it right the Democratic Party has left working men and women behind Donald Trump brought them back and Donald Trump is looking out for them and Democrats look at the the callous statement of p. Booted judge and the callous stroke of a pen by Joe Biden All right Neil we'll see what we could do what thoughts and prayers are with you your kids your family all the other guys that got laid off with you I'm sorry that you're all living through this hell it sux. So no really preaches present you have a meal all right sir 809 for one Sean West in Pennsylvania next Sean Hannity Show what's up West that John hello Ira Yeah I'm actually a member of the Teamsters I'm an airline pilot in the Teamsters again most of us. Majority of us supported Trump of course while the union had to work in Washington that's part of the problem there are Washington lobbying elbows with this one but what I want to get to show on this tipline. Runs from the west east in Canada to win a peg roughly around the Winnipeg area and then if one goes directly south. It goes to North Dakota it goes to South Dakota it goes to Nebraska and Oklahoma from Kansas finally into Texas only stakes now whenever Tom came out with an executive order there were people in the court's friendly course immediately filing suit to put a stop to his you know and they were able to do it every time you know it's going to be like Governor no fortune I think of the press can I'm trying to think I know Kansas has a Democratic governor but ag in Texas why have they not filed suit in friendly courts President Trump just well Abbott has been doing it the people of Texas the age in Texas they're all involved the most and there's going to be there's going to be so many lawsuits involving all of this that with the other things but the other thing of course is you will stop working who are the feds going to send in there to stop the work of the red state governors at the very least because they are doing work in all the states it's a it's an activity it's a job that's going on in all of the states a West a who's in who's going to pay the bill and if the Ultimately they killed the project and you just show up for work at the keyboard on the project I assume that payments towards the materials that keep you busy every day are going to that's going to get cut off at some point soon so they're not going to even have the materials to build it and nobody's going to write them a paycheck it's a Canadian funded job it's the it's Canada Darnley or 3rd Hartley but the problem is is I'm look how do I explain this you're picking a fight you can't win because it is not going to allow it to happen the next thing that will happen is they won't they won't stop the rioters in Seattle and Portland then. And even condemn them but I guarantee you if workers on the Keystone x.l. Pipeline kept working they'd stop them they'd they'd arrest them for trespassing Within seconds I guarantee it it's dead it's a dead end strategy right now guys like Neil Crabtree have to worry about putting food on the table and taking care of their kids and keeping a roof over their head that's that's the tragedy in this but what if one of President home of North Dakota or South Dakota excuse me she sent out the state police to stop anybody from attempting to stop them who's going to write the check and what are you thinking that Canada is going to bypass the federal government and that somehow the money's going to magically end up and they're going to do a stealth building of the Keystone x.l. Pipeline it's not going to happen since I think it's so important if this is so enormous I think I saw predictions that we could be looking at $13.00 a gallon gasoline at some point we have to take on the people pulling the strings of Joe because Joe Don't blame this on Joe Sean chose not to air it's Obama only hope on that with that nasty streak that he has with come in with all of these executive orders this will. Sit Well no it's a common No you're wrong it's it's the that is the entire radical democratic socialist power structure they've now taken over the Democratic Party they controlled by Believe it or not the squad has more war control over the Democratic Party than anybody else and if Palosi wants to stay in power she's going to cater to their radicalism if Schumer doesn't want to challenge in New York he'll do the same and Joe Biden even be one to unity and wanted to stop this unconstitutional post presidency impeachment shift show he wouldn't be able to do it nor have the strength to stand up to it. You know I'm you know I hear what you say and I realize I can sympathize with what you say but you know to tell these guys just go to work every day guys it just is not going to work that we can that can happen they only way Neale Crabtree and $100.00 guys that he laid off are going to get back to work is if there's another president that rescinds this executive order that's the only way and I need an interim he's got to survive but why can't you why can't they bring it to the courts once from something to they can order you know when some side has executive order banning travels certainly a mixtape what did we see we saw them here's a big city flood into the airports pull all of their guns that's what I think is the right going to start taking the fight to these people and I can tell you this to make your heart a little less trouble I can tell you right now there are being drafted a lot of lawsuits against a lot of these executive orders because a lot of them you are correct are unconstitutional for example even on the issue of immigration I'm telling you right there he's now Biden stroke of a pen holding border wall construction is likely illegal great piece in The Washington Times today that is going to be challenged you know but I'll tell you one thing I think Americans are probably learned by now is that you can't count on the courts all the time because even though Donald Trump's one of his greatest successes is on the judiciary but with that said there's still activist justices all throughout the system that have agendas and then are going to listen to the law or follow the Constitution corner of the court until one judge says open up the x.l. Pipeline then they will say bye of course and the damn sick number and then we'll be able to send Finally we get to ignore justices ruling says well you know I think that you're. It should have any say in it but under Trump course they did but I can rest assured I mean Obama already proved it when he was president he was he doesn't like what a justice served so we can learn what he wanted to know about it that's how we have to start behaving send it back to work I mean say what you going to do about it we've got our state police I can tell you what they're going to do about it now have the authority in the power to do it and that is they going to send they're going to send cops in and they won't arrest rioters or won't even they won't even acknowledge it's a real riot but they'll take those guys out in handcuffs and that's and they're not going to get paid I'm telling you look I love your fight now I love the part what you're saying that yeah we've got to challenge all this legally you have a long term strategy and you have a short term strategy the short term strategy is right let's get a job let's get if we can help Neil and the guys that work for him let's try I can't guarantee it and hopefully people go to Hannity dot com that short term long term yeah these these attorneys general and these varying states that have jurisdiction need to bring the lawsuits and these varying conservative groups the few that are really conservative need to start the legal challenges the way liberals do and and yeah that that work its way through the courts all of which takes a lot of time I think we can win on the law on the constitution and on the merits but you know what anytime you get in a court system as we all know you know it all depends on the jury the jurisdiction the judge the philosophical leanings of the judge That's why elections matter and that's why the Democrats h.r. One they may want. Protocols for every election moving forward because they think it benefits them they think legalizing 11000000 people helps them they're doing everything to guarantee d.c. Stay. Good helps Democrats maintain a majority in the Senate in perpetuity all of which they want to do you know all of which I said Live Free or Die American the world on the brink now it's the brink part and as much as that there's nothing that I was telling you that they were going to do that they're not doing and all of it is not going to end well in my opinion for the country and it's just the beginning the old Crabtree is the canary in the coal mine I don't see a lot of people benefiting from these radical extremist environmental views of the left anyway good call Weston I do appreciate it they want to remind you our great great friends of building homes for heroes or get such an amazing organization proud to have donated money over the years will continue to. 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Number $809.00 for one Sean if you want to be a part of this extravaganza with a callous this 2nd to none what has happened now and what is happening before our eyes so sadly this is the dangers of radicalism and socialism which represents the new radical democratic socialist party in other words everything we told you they would do they are now doing you know John Kerry doesn't matter that he travels around in his private jet knew John Kerry is is going to lead should the American people billionaire that he is. About the need to get rid of these jobs in the oil sector and high paying career jobs because of this radical climate change agenda why does he still own a private jet why does Joe Biden and the entire government why are we paying for fleets of jets for all these Cabinet heads and their staff to travel around the country I don't know I bet many of you didn't know that. How many of you know about John Kerry's home in my office Vineyard then you've got the man with the wealth of experience former mayor of South Bend he just got a job people to judge oh we want people to get other other union jobs or interviewing tens of thousands of people and we're talking to all these people that lost good union jobs that were paying $100.00 grand a year with awesome benefits they're now out of work next week they got their pink slips last week and they getting in this week they now know that they've got mortgages they've got to pay rent they've got to pay and promises of some future job in a windmill factory or solar panel factory is not exactly heartwarming for them he's a very skilled specific jobs these are real professionals that earn every penny they work on rigs and welders and pipe fitters and all these hard working men and women and grand home even admitting year we're going to have to give up jobs in the name of climate change I mean on top of that we're becoming more dependent never again we're finally energy independent thanks to Donald Trump Well now you know the hostile regimes are Russia and Iran and China and Middle Eastern countries that hate us they'll be getting rich again because the price of oil and energy will begin to soar every American will be impacted there too you'll be paying more for gasoline more to heat your home and your fellow Americans in this job environment with a pandemic going on in this job environment we're going to legalize. 11000000 people in this country we're ready have a fight going on for the few jobs that are available so let's rip away entire careers from people let's listen to Kerry Granholm and Buddha judge the president of the United States as expressed in every comment he has made about climate the need to grow the new jobs that pay better than a cleaner what President Biden wants to do is make sure those folks have better choices that they have alternatives that they could be the people who go to work to make the solar panels they were making them here at home that is going to be a particular focus of the build back better agenda I'm just curious how a long term ban consistent with the president's goal of unifying our country and putting Americans back to work and helping our economies grow how is that consistent. I think the president's plan I'm building back better which would create more jobs in energy clean energy than the jobs that might be sacrificed so for those workers the answer is somebody else will get a job the answer is that we are very eager to see those workers continue to be employed in good paying union jobs even if they might be different wants good paying union jobs 7 of the different ones all right now they don't have any job because with the stroke of a pan Biden took them away the jobs will be sacrificed Granholm actually got very close to the truth there for a 2nd nuking rich former speaker of the House joins us now Mr Speaker I've never I've never witnessed anything this profoundly stupid as what they're now doing in the name of this you know climate change hysteria you know whipped up by the radical socialist like cacio Cortez. Well look I think the arrogance and insensitivity of people like John Kerry who is a billionaire. Just basically saying a lot of well you're not going to have a job but some day somewhere down the road everything will work out fine what's not going work out not just for the workers you're describing some to remember in places like New Mexico the local school board relies on the oil and gas payments to meet their budget and as somebody said in New Mexico yesterday Democrat said in New Mexico yesterday if you cut off oil and gas this month you're going to be cutting off the schools next month and I think that that's what people don't realize is the effect to the entire community not just the immediate jobs but the effect to the entire community will be devastating and will in fact create ghost towns out of places the right now are vibrant and profitable and attracting new workers and desirable places to live and I think these folks have no clue how many human beings are going to hurt with their policies because their their views on climate change and environmental justice climate concerns are at the heart of all of the so that's when the choice comes down to energy independence the choice comes down to American high paying career jobs they side with the fringe left because as we also know this is intricately intertwined with an agenda which is redistribution of wealth and socialism isn't it well it is and you know Thomas one of the great series of essays way back in the 1970 s. And what she described radical chic and you have all these nice wonderful people at their fabulous places in Cape Cod in Nantucket and they're having wonderful cocktail parties with people serving them who are illegal immigrants but now they have a chance to get citizenship and they don't have a clue. So how much damage they're doing to the rest country because you know you just pop another champagne and talk in wonderful terms about this great future you're creating but it's going to be a nightmare for normal everyday Americans the question I'm getting asked by more people every single day callers to this radio show people I run into every day is Ok what what what can we do to stop this now my answer is usually start at the local level because you can have you can have state attorney attorneys general they can go out there and they can challenge a lot of these executive orders Beau Biden I know I love how the New York Times very plainly said Ok Joe please not so many executive orders just slow down a little bit because he's done more in a week than all 3 prior presidents combined something he said that he didn't have the authority to do which is interesting but people are asking what can they do and I'm also saying work with the state legislators now if you have issues in top in terms of the integrity and competence in your state voting system now's the time to fix it not 2 years from now Ok I think this is a little bit like the emergence of the tea party system in response to Obama in 20092010 which led to the largest Republican pickup in modern times we gain 63 seats in 2010 I would urge everybody who wants to change things organize if you're if you're in a Democratic congressional district star right now well denies your campaign to beat the incumbent because if we could scare 50 or 60 of the Democratic incumbents in the fearing for their reelection you would suddenly find it impossible to pass any left wing legislation because they've just closed down those set of Palosi and Schumer and Biden I'm not going to defeat myself just for some you know slogan and I think it's very important that grassroots activists recreate the kind of energy and the kind of enthusiasm that we had so powerfully. In 2009 in 2010 if it is a firm if we don't pay attention if they look I think Attorney General we saw in Texas they have now already successfully blocked one of Biden's executive orders on immigration so I think that that certainly is a strategy I think they'll be a lot of lawsuits coming out of these these actions would by themselves said he didn't have the authority to do now they're talking about using reconciliation to get the budget passed now they have a committee to look into core Packie now they're moving forward with d.c. Statehood I mean there's a lot there's a lot of battles and a lot of changes but this is what you and I both were trying to tell people what happened if in fact this ever happen again I think the House and Senate Republicans ought to be much more aggressive some for example somebody ought to put in a bill right now to repudiate all of this moratorium on gas and oil and then challenge put people like for example the New Mexico Democratic delegation mean I'm actually goes life blood is being strangled by the by a demonstration so let's put the Democrats on notice and all of these various places and I think you would find all of a sudden to be a lot of folks who face really difficult challenges you're going to see this play out in the Senate races we now have an open Senate seat and Ohio eastern Ohio has become enormously for successful because of natural gas and here's Biden coming along crippling that entire Kaname and that will become a major issue in the in the Senate race this is not a risk free proposition on their part the more radical they are the bigger the disaster will be for them and it may start in Virginia this year I mean I'm here looking at new candidates new blood new energy and the Virginia Republican Party in a way that that could show up as early as this November I don't think in the last election I don't think people are paying attention Ed Gillespie got a lot closer than people thought he would I'm not sure. Knowing that you know the swamp has moved into Northern Virginia I don't know how easy it is for any Republican ever win that state but it will be certainly be worth contesting and I think also we're now learning that the Democratic Party has really become the party of radicalism socialism catering to the elites in New York and l.a. San Francisco and d.c. And this is where I think her public and party has has an opportunity and that is to become the party of hard working men and women and championing the cause to protect the American worker well in the northern Virginia to become the party that says let's open the schools I mean that the teachers' unions everywhere in this country right now are clearly putting power ahead of children and there isn't the biggest opportunity Republicans have had to seize the education issue and remember also that places like Northern Virginia there are a lot of small businesses living crushed by the stupidity with which the government of Virginia has been managing the shutdown so I think we're entering a different world than the one we were in and it's going to be a world where getting kids educated creating jobs making sure the street is safe that we had the largest increase in murders in major cities last year in American history now that's the sort of thing that you defund the police you have contempt for the police you tolerate and chief and all of a sudden you have a country that is really dangerous I know in your show the other night you showed the video of the person getting beaten up at 11 o'clock in the morning in downtown New York you know way which frankly I was horrifying it was as awful I'm dying to get your thoughts you got the David and Goliath battle going on on on Wall Street where you have day traders people that that bypass the big hedge funds and they do their own trading and I paying me often when you buy and sell stocks you have to pay a commission but if you go to these different websites you don't have to do that but anyway they. They actually figured out that these companies these hedge funds these these alliance if you will were were sort of the short stocks strategies a shorting of stock strategies that they've used was going way too far and they figured out that a lot of the stock was phantom stock I mean which was pretty bizarre In other words they're shorting stocks that are don't even exist if it's 100 percent of stocks that you can short Ok You can't short 140 percent of stocks and I'm watching this all go on and we all see that these independent investors group together on on Reddit another places and you see the the stock rise of Game Stop and some of these other Black Berry in a few other companies soaring through the roof and then you've got a company like Melvin capital cratering their hedge fund and having to be been forced to exit the short bet against game shop and a big win for the little guy that will come I am I think we're at a point in this country's history where when and before the little guy well we have too many billionaires who are totally out of touch with the with the world who have too many billionaires who think that their financial success means they can dictate politics to the rest of us and move to any billionaires who are willing to use their muscle in order to reshape the country based on their particular psychology or their particular ideology so I've always believed the heart of America is the average individual American and if enough individuals can band together to beat the big boys I am all for it we'll get a new carriages take on impeachment on the other side 809 point one Sean is our number if you want to be a part of the program. 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Radio apps like Jordan next favorite pod cast on i Heart Radio this week good stuff you should know. Welcome to stuff you should know production of i Heart Radio. You mostly know the podcasts I'm joshing there's chalking there's Jerry out there coated in palate are. Saying this is stuff you should fast finishing. Much because. I've been reading a giant book on aspirin and. Yeah biography and you know behind the scenes backstage Khulood aspirin all the ups and downs like a behind the music basically yeah I don't remember why I picked this I just don't remember but I did and I'm going to stand by and remember one aspirin a deed on itself. He had. It's fair or else that's some nasty stuff though Dion to it turns out I would think so I mean not only the result but just the taste and I don't like the taste either but haven't you said that you're like a Goodies headache powder dude yeah goodies are b.c. I will. You know that's a lot of aspirin it's like. You know if you will get to this but if you have like a heart issue they recommend you take something like 85 milligrams you know in a in a good reason a b.c. Is like 850 holy cow it's a really yeah Plus caffeine it's a big dose of aspirin plus to see them in a fin to it's it's powdered Excedrin is what is same same formula Well they're both different but yeah one of them as I can remember which one I think goodies is powdered Excedrin Yeah I think b.c. Does not have to see them and if and just has caffeine and maybe more caffeine Well it's like the Jolt Cola headache powders but point is I don't take that a lot anymore in it I don't mind the taste I know it grosses a lot of people out but I don't love it and I don't just like let it sit on my tongue and dissolve forever like I wash it down very quickly but I'm not like. I got just very better you have no problem with the drain you're Ok. Funny guy so we are talking aspirin today and it is kind of tough I've realized overstate the importance of aspirin as far as like the world's medicine cabinet goes like there is no other drug that has been sold more than aspirin in the history of humanity did you know that sure Ok I mean you know it's it's to go to or was for many many many many years until other Insead started making the scene. For you know decades and decades aspirin is sort of the go to for a lot of stuff that's true right let me see if I can impress you with this one of the great things about aspirin is this synthesize from nature that it's actually a perfected version of something that you would find in a number of plants salicylic acid but specifically it was a willow that yielded up her secrets for mankind humankind to use as a medicine to make things better Yeah I mean that's that's a lot of medicines and that's you know him really is getting and really into herbal ism in the last few years and that's kind of one of her beef is that the medical in pharma industries have synthesize things and got rid of a lot of the great parts of the plant share she feels like are of great use to human beings to make this and that versions. Ok fair enough in this case though with aspirin I would argue that it is the improved version of nature's version. Yeah I think so well talk about why but like I said it was the willow plant that people realized pretty far back Chuck I believe it was at least as is. As late as the Sioux Marion's. I think there were clay tablets found that basically said are you joint taking try a little will be 50 it'll fix you right up yeah it was you know they were I don't think they had the name for it at the time but it was only in the ingredient and you could boil it down to a tee like you said you could dry dried out and powder that bark up and pound it down and work it to get you know I guess an early version of goodies and you would I mean everything from the Egyptians there's the. Pirates which is a kind of fun little cookbook textbook Medical Journal kind of thing that has recipes for Myrtle and willow leaf tea for joint pain great chili recipe and their 2 great chili. Too bad they didn't know about Fritos back then but. And by the way speaking of Fritos Yeah you know there's actually a chapter in our book about Fredo toes on dogs there is I know isn't it I think that we don't talk enough about the fun chapters of our book there's a lot of like kind of heady stuff but there's also a chapter about Fredo toes which if you don't have a dog it is is the smell of corn chips that a dog's paws can emit. Yeah it was kind of one of the perfect chapters I think it was a good chapter for sure because we talked not just about that but about not just about how humans perceive the smell of dogs paws but how dogs perceive the world with smell Yeah different bacteria can make different smells and it's pretty it was a good one I like that one though I like our whole book to be honest I finally got it 2 days ago who Ray would think well 1st of all I was very happy about how many they said Yeah I thought they were going to sell me a couple of books they sent me a big old box of books like they did you 25 and it was just really great to hold in my hand in it's a it's awesome It looks great it's the size we wanted it looks it looks like a real book it is the 1st place which is weird to see our NATO book I know did they put your name on the box. No your name was on my box is that right they put my name on my box too they just said what do you mean I just said the book titled in by Josh Clark Yeah yeah that's what it said I think they just didn't print the whole thing Ok well I like my idea that they were going to personalize each of our bottom of the hour nice to touch this just sounds like lazy box printing but I gotcha is there any Ok well you know it wasn't like trying to rub it in thinking that they would personalize your boss to you but you're like I'm going to save that box of whatever yeah you can you send me your box sure Ok give me the box with a big goal to prove it yeah there's a gopher hole or where used to say just. Any way you can preorder that book Stuff You Should Know an incomplete compendium of mostly interesting things but back to aspirin this book was I don't even know where I was talking about oh people like plenty to elder and hypocrisy he's had written about aspirin or it was an aspirin yet but Selah Syleena as you know basically Early on it was all about reducing fever and reducing joint like arthritis joint pain inflammation and it's still really good for that 2 aspirin it turns out is a non-zero util anti-inflammatory drug in Insead. And it. People realize that it was useful like you said for joint information for fever reduction which makes it anti pirate it which I think is a great word. And we knew about this for centuries and apparently Europe introduced it to China for once rather than vice versa but then it just kind of fell away fell the the wayside. Kind of out of human knowledge although like it was still there it just nobody was thinking about Willow any longer until malaria became a big thing when the age of discovery began in European started to call and eyes other parts of the world including South America. Area became a bit of a problem and one of the remedies for malaria we figured out was Cinchona Cinchona right I always said Cinchona but I think it is in China I always say chin Shona too but I'm looking right at it and I don't see the 1st h unless is a weird pronunciation thing I think I probably just been saying it wrong Ok well let's say Cinchona then will pronounce it correctly for once in our lives and that's a different kind of tree whose bark works really well to treat malaria and not just AAA but also reduce fevers as well but the problem is getting it from South America can be very very expensive or certainly was in the 16th 17th and 18th centuries. So it caused this one guy European doctor I believe or at least a researcher named Reverend Edward Stone to look for an alternative for it and he came upon Well he rediscovered will again for the treatment of fevers in information and by the way I think we mispronounce. There's a chain Shona I just know it's neither That's so I. Just looked up real quick it says it's sun challenge Ok I like that one like it almost it almost sounds like Quimby saying Chowta so weird so sun shone a sun goes looking for an alternative and he starts looking at the willow bark and its properties and does a pretty decent study for back then yeah in $763.00 and found that a 4 hour administration of willow bark powder. Would reduce fever pretty consistently and like I said it was a good study for back then there were some other Europeans who were also extracting . The active ingredient from Willow and it was kind of happening all around the same time I think a guy named Le Roux did the best job of it in the early 80829 and they guy was the substance Salah scene. Right so. There's basically that they isolated the active ingredient in willow bark and that's as well o. Bark Sally scene or salicylic acid which probably sounds familiar if you've ever used some sort of skin care treatment say to combat acne because it actually goes in in dissolves the stuff in your pores so it comes in handy like that. When they when they isolated it they they found out that oh actually this this pops up elsewhere in nature it's actually a kind of hormone that plan to use for their own immune response and you can find in everything from Willow or myrtle or Meadowsweet to Jasmine Pease clover it pops a very or it's a pretty common plant hormone and it was isolated finally in the early 19th century Yeah and there were a couple of other kind of important. Side roads on the way to aspirin that happened one in 853 when a French chemist name Gary Hart he invented aspirin by accident but he was a very refined in how he did it it was not a very good quality It was pretty impure now very effective so it was not paid very much attention to but we have to mention them and then in the 850 s. And sixty's some German chemists figured out how to produce it synthetically they learned the chemical structure of salicylates which is just kind of crazy to think that they could do stuff like that back then. That they were that advanced in learning chemical structures of something like that I was impressed by that but I am for sure yeah and they figured out how to produce it synthetically made it very much available very inexpensive it was all gone all of a sudden it was a very popular fever Douceur and pain reliever despite its side effects which are mainly stomach problems and tinnitus Yes but the thing is with that. Especially. 10 ictus and nausea like it can be really bad if you take too much it's temporary but it can be a real problem and over time they also found out that it can produce long term chronic affects because it's so hard on your stomach because again you're using the same substance. That you use to clean out the pores dissolve the stuff in your cool in your pores that has a big effect on your stomach and in fact we would find later on that it erodes your gastric mucosa your stomach lining and that can produce all sorts of problems on its own in the short term it makes you want to just throw up and die if you take too much aspirin and that's what we figured out with cells that like acid and that was the point of aspirin was to figure out how to create how to take this really useful important drug that had been known for millennia by this time and make it so it was it didn't have any of these unpleasant side effects and that's where aspirin came from yes maybe we can take a break and come back and talk about. A very sort of legendary company out of Germany called buyer right after this. 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They could pivot very easily and then you start discovering things when you're working in chemistry that might make you more money and that was sort of the case with buyer and they set up a pharmaceutical weighing and said hey you know we're discovering these other things and you make a ton of money in pharmaceuticals and this is just sort of the beginning of that they had no idea what they were on to. But they they started a pharmaceutical wing and said one of our 1st things we want to try and do is to create a version of Salah silent the doesn't have all these nasty side effects Yeah and there's a there's a long standing story in the chemistry community that a guy named Felix Hoffman a German chemist who worked for Bayer. Was trying to figure out a way to make salicylic acid more easy on his father's stomach his father had rheumatism which is a chronic inflammation of the joints and he had to take cells so I guess that a lot so Felix Hoffman was trying to figure out how to help his dad out when he stumbled upon though the recipe that or what would become the recipe for aspirin and right so all of this led to one of the most popular drugs in the history of the world and there is some debate like with everything like this it seems like sometimes it's hard to tell who exactly is given credit because history is written by the victors and in this case well there's a there's 3 men there's a 4th you name Karl Berg who is included as being a big person in the development because he was a marketer and his marketing skills were a big big reason why aspirin was so successful but a lot of people point to Felix Hoffman as the quote unquote inventor of aspirin. Right because on August him the 897 in his note book injury he described adding. As a tick and hydrate and hydride. To Salah silent and created aspirin I'm going to say if you won't say it's called aspirin see it'll civil and. A Seattle salicylic acid Yeah it's kind of fun to say it has like a fetal seal Salic. It's the acid that you but calls it aspirin because it's easier and he can call it that legally because aspirin is our proprietary eponym as we'll see put a pin in that. Well. Something to really that in sure right I think that's our gift to the listeners that some end of the years they need that's right there that means are our brains are entering the December most phase. Yeah boy is that I'm looking for that break in New York. Yeah everyone I think we said this before we take a few weeks off at the end of the year and it's just to not have to research stuff for 3 weeks is really nice that's all you get you guys don't notice because we make sure we record extra episodes in advance but we actually do we spoke up the kitty as we say that's right so just just real quick to put a button in this Felix Hoffman is said to be the guy who created this a guy named Arthur Eichengreen said later on he actually wrote a letter to Bayer from a concentration camp during the Nazi the 3rd Reich because he was Jewish and he said I was the one who came up with this but my my records were expunged by the Nazis other people like I'm not sure if that's true or not and a guy named Heinrich dresser he said it doesn't matter if it's true because I rediscovered the stuff I told both of these guys not to mess with this they did anyway I took their research published it didn't give them credit and now I am the one officially who is listed as the inventor of aspirin even though it's really Felix Hoffman and possibly Arthur I can groom who did yeah and I guess you could do that if there isn't any patents being filed you could literally just sort of publish something and steal someone's work yeah. Which is an announce going away to think about but I guess the law was the law but they did file patents and I mean bear realized pretty quickly this is at the same time they were coming out with heroin too so bear had 2 really big hits like bright right with it from what I read within a couple of weeks of each other and Felix Hoffman was central to both of them but with aspirin they were like This is kind of a big deal everybody loves sells hillock acid in the effects that it has but they hate the side effects and we just got rid of them so they penned it and they came up with the name aspirin so they as a nod to the as said ik and hydride the a Seattle part. The spur is a reference to the botanical names by real old Mario which is the name for Meadowsweet another source of salicylic acid right yeah so that would be aspirated and then they added i n at the end because that was just sort of one of the naming conventions for medicines just like we have Kane like cocaine and CYLIN for antibiotics and they would add an eye and so aspirin became aspirin so if you picked of the box and you're like this for what is this the get to the end and see that I am to be like oh it's a medicine that's right so Germany Patton's this in 1900 in the United States after patenting it in Germany and everywhere they could they would try and get a patent and it's been sort of an interesting story since then because after World War One and this is I mean you know this kind of stuff happened but Germany had to surrender their patents to countries that had defeated them and one of them was aspirin so they couldn't prevent competitors all over the world from making their own version they did retain the trademark in a few different countries but that is like he said earlier that is why you won't see aspirin or you don't have to Lisp it Lisp it list it with a capital a because it is. Is it's just one of those what do you call it proprietary eponym Yes I love those Yeah those are great you don't have the list but you don't have to say aspirin aspirin correct but. Some historians actually make the case check that World War 2 happened because Germany was treated so harshly after World War One that it led to such true Kone and. Basically revenge on Germany the German people that had a guy like Hitler to arise is this populist in control Yeah so yeah I don't know about the patents either but that kind of jibes and dovetails with that whole view yeah it's like give us all your art in patents right. What else you can ask for land Sure I guess but old that's for sure and they did do their remember the the Nazi gold episode we did yeah so there's another side story to all this that came out of World War one as well in that there was a embargo on pheno all. By England England said hey we make a lot of phenol over here and it's an active ingredient in a lot of stuff including aspirin but not just aspirin explosives too which is one big reason why we keep want to keep a lid on this thing and we're going to make sure that Germany doesn't get any there wasn't anything official in the United States banning anyone from selling to feed all the Germany but it was definitely looked like as you were aiding people who were at the very least the enemy of our enemy if not our enemy yet because we had an interval war one yet but they didn't stop Thomas Edison from selling phenol to the Germans during World War One did it you know he was German he was looking at it losing one of their most profitable drugs and said All right we're going to send a spy over there. To secretly buy phenol from Thomas Edison because he's got loves to blow stuff up from these lousy with it and I think that was just exposed when one of the conspirators accidentally left his briefcase on the train and it was a real black eye on not only by a but Edison as well yeah and I mean like a lot of people are like oh wow you know they were they were trying to keep the Germans from having aspirin during war one again you could use feet all to create t.n.t. Another explosive so that seems to be the reason why which makes Thomas Edison he actually created the pheno himself and then selling it to the Germans all the more shady you know yeah totally So it was definitely a blemish on on Edison for sure and he eventually stopped selling it to them and then donated the rest. The u.s. Army I believe right so by air is selling a lot of aspirin as a powder at 1st kind of like you know what we're talking about earlier but they figured out the people and this is kind of how most a lot of medicaments were powders at this point and I think aspirin from buyer was one of the 1st ones to be made into a tablet and they said hey if we can compress this stuff yeah into a little tube. People it won't make people like Rich with disgust from how it or it is you can just pop it in your mouth wash it down with some. With some liquor. Sure or absinthe or something some shops Pierre. And then people take it more readily or at least not want to not take it and it really really worked and that really popularize the use of tablets kind of from that point on yeah not just with aspirin but with all medicines to introduce the public to it and Barrett was actually with their aspirin they were also I think we talked about this in the Tylenol poisoning episodes that they were the ones who introduced the cotton ball to pill bottles and they did it to keep the aspirin from breaking because they were worried that somebody would take a broken tablet and it would be too little of a dose or they would take a bunch of broken tablets and to be too much of a dose so they put the cotton in there to keep them from breaking and with the advent of gel caps and coated capsules and all that stuff there's never been a need for the cotton ball any longer but we've all gotten so used to it we would we would be suspicious of opening a bottle of pills without it even though it's totally unnecessary Now I love that little cotton ball it's a great great great it's at least one of the better cotton ball facts out there well I like anything that can be repurposed like a twisted son a loaf of bread that ties it up I was sure or you know you got to use that cotton ball you get a great like you know just you know stick it back in your pill bottle to you or do you yes Ok I actually go to the trouble of taking it out and then you know it was and then putting it back again like a total shock. That's right I try to use those things with the idea is that is rapid toothpick with this cotton and I use that as a swab. It's not that bad at all yet the toothpick that came with. But what comes with the toothpick I guess from the from the pig in a blanket or something when you when you use the bathroom for free at a Shoney's fused to eat there as a still have all these 6 left over from being a kid from the lower middle class you know like you know if we're to throw it with sticks or era or those rubber bands that come around asparagus Yeah yeah who throws us a 4 you know but he got to use that stuff no sensible human being I don't know about using the cotton from a pill bottle as a q. Tip with the tooth pick thankfully very dangerous Chuck minute I like it a spirit behind it you know what I mean yeah you should not do that because a q. 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M m m m Good evening everyone you're in the right place at the right time this is coast to coast am blasting out of the Mojave Desert and you're sure Rocco blazing across the Atlantic slamming into your radio like a supercharge nanoparticle of unobtainium Greetings from the boldest corniest most outrageous city in the world the planetary capital of sun fun sin sex and secrets my not so humble hometown Las Vegas Nevada My name is George Knapp your host designated driver of the airwaves and moderator of tonight's upcoming confidence cavalcade of conversation one month down in the new year you probably have not acclimated yourselves to writing checks with the correct year right Ok that's me not you storms pounding much of the country tonight good excuse to hunker down indoors throw a log on the fire and spend a few hours with us I've been looking forward to this program for a couple of months now call our 1st u.f.o. Palooza of 2021 taking a look back at significant events of the last year and a look ahead to what might be coming this year and beyond with 3 guests who have lifetimes of experience investigating analyzing u.f.o. Cases and data they are mainstreet mainstays of a relatively young u.f.o. U.a.a.p. Organization called the s c u The scientific Coalition for u.f.o. Are you a piece studies serious sober scientific folks who have initiated several data driven u.f.o. Investigations the organization. It started out as an offshoot of fun then it morphed into its own separate entity of 501 c 3 you won't see them engaging in food fights or hissy fits on Twitter or calling people names or speculating about secret CIA COBOL's or deep state disinfo plots they look for evidence and then they share it with the world Rich Hofmann Robert Powell and Kevin canoe are veteran researchers and investigators they don't suffer fools they don't wallow in conspiracies Instead they look for facts and of them some remarkable work already with more work on the way they'll be my guest for the full 4 hours tonight although I think Kevin will have to leave us earlier than that he has a job imagine that and we promise to answer your questions at the last hour say that last hour for you so I think of some good stuff to ask Give us your a game folks think about what you might want to ask and we'll have a full hour for your calls as a way to get the juices flowing and ideas popping webmaster Lex and I have put together our usual assortment of items and oddities cold from the world's news media we call it naps news you can find it on the coast to coast am website among the stories posted there tonight several relating to our central topic in this program. An interesting piece about the intelligence that might be waiting out there for us to discover or for it to discover us I guess a prominent scientist who's been my guest on this program in the past thinks there is likely an artificial alien intelligence maybe more than one out there an alien race so advanced that they don't have bodies anymore they left those behind they exist sort of in the ether billions of years older than humans also another story from Forbes Yes Forbes writing about aliens suggesting that if there are aliens out there and if they are hostile they are not likely Mike Lee to hide from us you know we would know about it eventually and not in a good way that's kind of cheery to know a story from Popular Science about the. Task Force and the paper it's writing to be submitted to Congress later this year something we will be discussing in detail tonight and we have a final clip from our t.v. 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In a moment the brainiacs from the scientific Coalition for you a peace studies Rich Hofmann Robert Powell haven't canoe and the state of you follow g. Today I'm George Knapp and this is coast to coast am. What you can't see can hurt you like in The Boy Who Cried Wolf Mr There is a wolf out there. What do you think that was a cricket pitch I believe there's a wolf when I see it and it's right behind you which you can see can hurt you with identity theft too if you're just monitoring your credit you could miss threats like your info for sale on the dark web lifelong to text and alert you to a wide range of identity threats if there's a problem with a dedicated us space specialist will work to fix it no one can prevent all identity theft or monitor all transactions and all businesses but like flocking as your back look look at it. Silly boy. 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News 1st it was with then move on then as its own organization one of the founding members as rich Hoffman Rich was my guest a while back I'm so glad he's returned and brought friends he's a 26 year defense contractor working at the Redstone Arsenal in Alabama for Army Material Command h.q. He's a senior systems engineer analyst and for the past 56 years he's been engaged in investigating and researching the Us phenomena Robert Powell is a founding board member of the scientific Coalition for you a piece studies he was the director of research that moved on from 262007 to 2017 and created move on Science Review Board in 2012 he's one of 2 authors of a detailed radar witness report on the Stephenville lights remember that case will talk about it the 2013 og would be a Puerto Rico case and as the primary author on a recently published paper it's an analysis of the Navy carrier strike group encounter with the tic tac he also has a new book out written for young people on how to introduce them to the us a p topic Kevin canoe is an associate professor in the Department of Physics at the University of Albany s u n y c University in New York and is the editor in chief of The Journal entropy He's a former NASA research scientist at NASA Ames in the intelligence systems division designing artificial intelligence algorithms for astrophysical data analysis he's purchased published more than 100 he reviewed publications and has been advised to give over 80 presentations and 14 country written some excellent papers that we're going to discuss tonight gentlemen great to have you all here. Thank you he didn't . Thank you for having us. I'm thrilled we've got a lot of ground to cover so many jump right into it Rich let's start with you can you give us an overview about f.c. You what it was created to do how things are going now and I'll frame the question this way to we know what you se you isn't we don't see it thrashing it out with knuckleheads on Twitter getting into spats or name calling and conspiracy theories how do you manage to avoid all that and still get things done and what is it your organization does. Well thanks for having a fun and thanks for spending so much time with be being with us George and we appreciate the opportunity to be able to share more about. I think at the start of the. Like the case investigation of the og would be a case back in 2013 and we were just a team that was comprised of all of us to move on and just a team that was put together to basically go on to analyze this case because we had to sign an n.d.a. Thing that we wouldn't you know basically talk about it and we wouldn't share it with anybody and so we did that kind of thing in order to be able to protect the pilots identity and various other aspects of the case but we went along and we finished our og with the report after about 2 years. By that time we were starting there gave a little bit of pushback but moved far in that we didn't go through them but we again honored the. Decision to not do that and so after a period of time and I think it got around about the 2017 time period that we kind of decided that it was best for us to just break on our own and we started to see that it wasn't going exactly the way we wanted it to be they were talking about secrets they ship programs and that's not something that interests too many of the fine to us we got on board. And back we were starting to see a lot of them wanting to you know leave basically So we decided to do about maybe like 2016 to look into the idea of creating an organization by 2017 we actually got organized and got all the paperwork in and started to pull the organization together. At present we've got I think it's I guess the last number and Robert can probably correct me it's probably about 109 people but. There are a part of this I think that there's something about 24 percent of those with Ph d. And you know with the events in 2017 it came. The big you know I mean with the announcement at the Pentagon it just gave a lot of a lot of us a lot of legs to be able to stand on and we started to see people that were coming out with you know good credentials like you know pleased to have Dr Kevin canoes on board with us and his colleague Dr Matthew should I get a whole host of others that wanted to find out and be a part of you know treating this subject seriously and scientifically and. So we forged I had Robert media and. The other people on the board we actually got into stablished and it's we can we do our best George to be able to stay out of that fray you mentioned because we're not interested in playing into that role where they're more focused on being able to do our scientific work which is the papal to do studies and to get data to be able to do the studies and to write papers and be able to help which that into scientific journals and that's the way we see going about it that we're more like a think tank and we've done a large number of projects that we're engaged in right now and we're pushing ahead so that's pretty much about than where we're planning to go anyway Robert a related question so you've quietly done some of the best and most credible comprehensive work of these excellent analyses of the Stephenville case which a lot of people have sort of forgotten the case of we'll talk about how did you end up with us do you did you leave move on are you still affiliated. Now I left in the summer of 2017 and we created s.c. As a nonprofit and September 2017. You don't have to worry wait for disclosure there's data out there that can be analyzed and discussed you don't need to wait for handouts from the government Right right yeah I'm not a big fan of the word disclosure. Whether that. Was a government ever comes out says here's everything we know I don't think that will ever happen but there's lots of good information out there that can be analyzed and hopefully maybe someday in the future the government can provide more information that can be analyzed. Kevin I'm told you're be here for just maybe this hour so I want to focus on you a little bit in this 1st hour and your is my tablets and long as I can yeah understood you have a job I get that I read that your 1st exposure to the u.f.o. Subject came because of some cattle mutilations in your neck of the woods and when someone told you about a possible u.f.o. Connection you kind of scoffed and walk away obviously something changed what was it. Well it was a few things I have to tell you that was my 1st real hunger so to speak I was starting graduate school because of the physics department at Montana State University in Bozeman Montana and this was a bend in the fall of 1988 and it was the 2nd week of classes or so and so I was a new student along with many other new graduate students had to move to Montana to go to school and there were these 2 cattle mutilations on a nearby ranch that was all over the news and was pretty freaky and. And so several of us students at a physics students were discussing this in the hallway of the physics building. Trying to get our heads around what kind of strange place we all just moved to and are going to have to spend the next several years at Wright and. And while we're having this heated discussion one of the physics professors came down the hall the see what we were all. Excited about and. He kind of listened to brightly and then he said Yeah that's very strange the cattle mutilations they happen along here and now whatever figures out what what causes them or what you know the culprits are and very often your photos are you know seen around the same time or in the same area so it's very strange and and they said he said but even stranger he said as I have some friends who work at Mom's from for space at the i.c.b.m. Missile site and they have problems up there with U.F.O.'s flying over the missiles and shutting them down and we were. Kind of stunned. It was fair for 5 this it was your foes are shutting down nuclear missiles and he said that's what they tell me and you know he walked away and to be honest we would have laughed. You class like crazy because that's just sounds like something that's not right I mean. We would all know about this the government would be doing something or somebody would do something about it and and so we just saw it and so that can't possibly be true but it wasn't so open until I was here you Albany and I was teaching an astronomy class and I had some students interested in the possibilities of alien extraterrestrial life in the 1st place and also the possibility of them visiting Earth and so they wanted me to say some things about Pat so I was. The evening before my lecture I was kind of poking around on the Internet and I happened upon the. The press conference that Robert Hastings had given was. Robert solace and several other people who are were on the mountain at Mom's from Air Force Base and they were recounting their experiences in the 1960 s. With U.F.O.'s shutting down nuclear missiles and I thought I heard about this 2 years ago. And precedents go I thought Oh it's crazy but it can't possibly be crazy if you have this many people over the length of time. Talking about these experiences so I became convinced that something is going on something strange is happening and people are ignoring it because they just think it's not but clearly can't be has the has the ground changed in the last 3 years for you for your colleagues who presumably would be interested in those you know the guys that name Ames. Lab You would think that these guys working for NASA would be all over the subject would be completely fascinated with want to dig into it I wonder if the ground has changed for people like that colleagues in different disciplines in the last 3 years now that the Navy has made some public statements and they the Tic-Tac information has come spelling out. Thanks to a good bit it hasn't it hasn't even turned their scientists are now my only interested. In a 3 dismissive which I think is good I thought so some of that taboo has lifted and and and maybe were shifting towards more healthy skepticism which which is better than just just dismissive of whole Thank you which isn't healthy. And and I've been contacted by several colleagues who have expressed interest in finding out how one can go about sending these things and so I think that's very promising. Surprisingly mention mentioned colleagues at NASA might my colleagues and I say I really think most of them really think that this is just nuts and I'm not interested in that kind of surprises me I should mention that one of my colleagues my former colleagues in the 2nd Division the intelligence systems division from Silvano Columbine who had. Written a paper for a SETI meeting more recently where he was talking about how we ought to be studying U.F.O.'s as well so how some some people are I think coming around and think and realizing that you know maybe we should look at this maybe we should look at the data rather than just laugh it away you would think that the SETI folks would be interested but of course as we know they're kind of hostile to the whole u.f.o. Subject they think there are aliens out there but way way far away not closer to home and so they belittle the general topic even though SETI doesn't exactly have a great track record in terms of coming up the data you do you know that there is data here that can be analyzed right written about right and I think well that's interesting and I think the difficulty with SETI is they are they have for their entire history they've been worried about being taken seriously by the scientific community and and worried about funding consequently So I think there is a rather Tanishaa they don't want to they don't want to be more French than they already are. And I think that's the problem and that may change when you know if. More information coming out they will have to see I want to jump into the Nimitz Tic-Tac case because that's such a monumentally important turning point for that the discussion Robert you've you've done a lot of work digging into that I know that Jeremy Corbell and I were working on it back the months before the New York Times story came out and and we could see your footprints at a couple different places trying to dig up information yourself is that case a good game changer in your mind oh I think it's definitely a dang changer I mean it's really brought attention to the subject I started working on the case in January of 2016 about a year and a half before the New York Times incident and it's it's amazing because. I generated all of these for you and I got the same response back from every Navy agency you know even though today they indicate yes there's these 2 a p exist back then back then being 2016 and 17 the reply was always we don't have any information responsive to your requests. And then finally I protested some point and I've got one back where I guess they want to throw me some crumbs so it was an e-mail exchange between some arraign officers on a ship and in that. Conversation this Jag officer who was trying to get information about my 4 year requests. Asked him a question and they said that oh yeah we know all about that. Hold on Robert Robert and Kevin and and rich We'll be right back we're going to go into the break with a song from the animals when the great bands in the sixty's Valentine the lead guitarist 77 years old died today. Know what it. Would. Be Miss. Some time. But it. Continues just 90 p.c. . Coast to Coast continues 590 k.c. 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Kevin can do that I know that you have taken a pretty deep dive into that Nimitz Princeton check tac case can I get you to to share with us your conclusions about it what you think it is and is not based on the data in the video. Is it. Something Thanks inkling we had. Analyzed the last 30 some friends of that video where the object itself right off to the left and the computer system loses lock. And it's in the approximate You know the estimated size I find the pilots. For individuals who witnessed the thing they estimated the object to be about 40 feet across and if that's correct or close and that acceleration was among . Around 75 G.'s of acceleration of 75 times the collision of gravity. And which is which is incredibly fast it's much faster than you would expect a missile frame to be able to handle so it's faster than. Faster than anything it was going to make that's in operation so that it's really pretty startling Now of course if the pilots were in error about the size of the object then you know that that number's Quite so but they're proportional so if the object was a drone only 4 feet in length then the acceleration would have been around 7 and a half case which would still be crazy acceleration for a drone especially when you've got infrared footage that doesn't show any heat signatures from exhaust so so it's not it's just Piers that these out these are actually craft things Stanzi descriptions of these pilots and make celebrations are really pretty astounding based on 7 days reporting with senior chief they was on the u.s.s. Princeton monitoring these things using radar and he. Observed one dropping from about 20000 feet to sea level and you know about point 7 seconds. So that those accelerations are really very highly secured the minimum acceleration in that case it is going to be. We estimated to be something on the order of. 50026000 G.'s so 5000 times the coloration of gravity. Yes So the new mixolydian was 5953 which is really insane I mean most I mean you know all organisms are going to survive that much less equipment so so these objects are really quite astounding and the. Thing that I found interesting is that if. You mount a power involved it was very hot it's very highly of course to calculate how much power would be required to complete such a maneuver you'd have to know the mass of the craft and. The object was about the same size as that of an f. 18 home which is around I think 15000 kilograms so we we lowballed the mass to about a 1000 kilograms or so if the thing was rather light. It still would require about a leavening $111100.00 gigawatts to perform that maneuver. So it's 1100000000000 watts of power and put that into perspective the. Maximum power output of the United States is only around 90 gigawatts. Maximum power output of a nuclear power but the 9 states around 90 gigawatts so far and the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station there is honesty is the biggest nuclear power plant and only puts out $3.00 gigawatts So this was 300 times more power than the poet Verity Nuclear Generating Station of what is required so this technology you know people. Have often suggested well could it be possible that somebody leap frogged to technology they would have leap frogged multiple times 2 to be able to get to this point so it's it really is a shocking shocking. These maneuvers really quite shocking now the one can then ask well is it reasonable to assume that needed perhaps fantasize that these are could be extraterrestrial craft and then have to worry about interstellar travel in that case but if you're saying acceleration is on the order of 5000 g.s. And if that exhilaration could be sustained in space for any period of time you could easily get up to. Relativistic speeds which the speeds close to the speed of light so for example for even have $1000.00 g. Acceleration if you can maintain that for for about an hour you'll be going about a 10th of the speed of light already 3 hours you're going 30 percent the speed of light that's faster than the probes we're trying to design now to go to Alpha Centuri and. If you can sustain that exhilaration of a 1000 genes for 17 hours you're behind 90 percent the speed of light so could be extra interstellar craft and they certainly could. Rich. Rich you've Rich you've heard the explanations from people who desperately don't want this to be they wanted to be anything but an unknown so they'll say well that video is kind of grainy it doesn't really impress me and they'll say it could be a hologram and then they'll say it's a secret drone project that hasn't it's classified as a man unveiled and they're just kind of springing it on this Navy unit just to test it out What do you say to those folks. Well I mean that's a good point George I mean you get to go back to like you know take a look at the the candidates Arnold. I know that Dr Bruce Maccabee vote for. Just recently about that case and then he cites 14 different alternative hypotheses for what kind of Arnold song and so it's quite common to have people who want to come out to say you know it's something that the that whatever it is and so we see that on a lot of different cases especially the you know if you would though the people wanting to debunk the case will come up with something but as we've seen in the past even with the. What we've seen is the they'll take just a very small perspective they might have already developed that opinion like it's got to be a blueness and so therefore I'm going to just work and all the facts being the bloom and that they failed to look at the entire picture of the case and you know for example they're not looking at the formal signatures which don't match a balloon they're not looking at the other aspects of it and so we get that quite often and and I'll be honest with you it's like we've attempted to deal with that in the context even the would be a case where we post out some of these alternative you know things and we try to like show won't again this is why it doesn't work because we did consider that. And so yeah George I mean it's part of u.f.o. History from the very beginning you're going to have people we want to offer an explanation for it often online if you take a look at even in social media somebody will go up and post a video and then you have these you know this chair. With the speculation you know the people in the back willing to dodge it was the bird it's not in this I think part of it has to be it was human nature the same time you know they're not you know looking at the facts and so we just deal with what we what we know and we've heard people the right you know competing papers and to consider some of the other alternatives but I think that that's just part of the u.s. History. Robert this incident happened in 2004 so we're coming up on about 17 years ago if it's a secret technology developed by the u.s. Military what are we going to see you know let's just break it on out here it's been a long time you don't believe that's the secret technology that we developed right now there's no way. That characteristic physis object spy even if you know if you project for will be at 20 or 30 years this is not like developing a speech to fail farmer I mean this is orders of magnitude beyond as capabilities for example when you have an object that's traveling. It's these high celebrations that Kevin just mentioned and his speed is his hands the thousands of miles an hour at low atmosphere it should abandon a fireball like a meteor burning up and you have to we have no metal. That could survive movement if you have to does that speech I mean even a hypersonic missile which can travel at 56000 miles an hour we make it out of a special metal in the metals almost melting is moving to us there's nothing that we have to move through the atmosphere is that speed that burning us I know that you and I were both trying to find documents you know anything reports that had been written for the Navy or pentagon or d.i.r. Anybody and it was pretty hard going there until. You know I think there was a report that was written for the Navy in a discuss stuck in a drawer which meant that people like you could not obtain it and we got an analysis that was done a while later under the auspices of OSs out that really spells it out that the you know our military did not what know what this was they were trying to figure it out but there was it's pretty clear when you read that paper it wasn't it's not ours right exactly it's not ours the Navy indicates I mean what must people have to realize this was a Navy carrier strike that is one of the most powerful systems on our planet this is us has Tennessee and you've got radar on every one of those shifts you've got the highest technology of the future systems that have coordinated the radar systems and 1st someone to think that our pilots and our Navy seamen are not of where of everything that's in the air around that Eric carrier strike group that they're receiving cell because if it's fair and it is Russian and Chinese or commercial aircraft anything they know what it is almost immediately. Kevin you have written about sort of the spread of intelligence and civilizations through the cosmos I'd like you to address this while we have you still here about who it might be who might have been responsible for Tic-Tac for the Gimbel if it's not us we don't know we don't have good evidence for where it might come from we can't prove it's extraterrestrial you've explored the possibility that it's a breakaway civilization I think you called it a Wauconda and you talk about that in in connection with your bigger paper about intelligence and they cosmos Oh certainly Yeah well when I mentioned Macondo we. Professor Should I guess Matthew should I guess in mind here you know of any we use as he is. In the context of what we call the word condom hypothesis which is the hypothesis that it is a that these things were made by somebody here on Earth or another country that's had of everybody else but but the idea. But I have looked into what. You want and interest our civilisation would have to be like to be able to find it said how difficult it would be to find her and in all of this now. The difficulty is that if you can if you can go at sufficiently fast speeds close to the speed of light you have several effects in relativity that work with you. More stars some that work against you as well and the ones that work with you are what we call time dilation where the faster you go time slows down so you can so it's true that travelling you know the nearest star would take you know it would take a very long time the nearest star is about 4 light years away so if you're travelling close to the feet of life thank you almost 4 years to get there. But. For the traveler because they're moving there their time is going slower so so they can actually get there in a shorter period of time and in the end the closer you get to the speed of light you can make that arbitrary at least months so it could take them a few days for a few weeks whatever whatever you like. And that. So it so it is possible to make trips like this now the problem with with a trip like that is that you can. You can travel a long distance in a short period of time so. In let's say let's say we're accelerating at. $60.00 writing that something close to a hump let's just drop it down to $100.00 g. Acceleration which is 50 times less acceleration than what is what's missed by Kevin today. You couldn't get from here to the other side of the galaxy which is which is a little more than 100 light years from here. And it would only take you about for almost 4 months to get their ship time if you accelerate good at a 100 she constantly and then decelerated $100.00 g. The rest of the way so your so for the traveller it would only take about 4 months for people on Earth it would take 120000 years something crazy like that so the problem is that if you then have somebody travels of from across the galaxy and then turns around and goes back home and they home you will have. Months trips of the traveler but it will be have been about a quarter of a 1000000 years for everybody on the planet from. So space travel becomes time travel basically you're traveling through space at pretty high speeds is equivalent to traveling forward in time. That some of the ideas the thinking has been well why would anybody ever do that because there's no point to another star system to collect information because when you come back you are you going to give it to you know the people who funded the project and never going to hear from you so. Why would anybody ever to that and and it occurred to me on the day that what was. That that wasn't very reasonable thinking because well 1st when I see people are crazy people do all sorts of crazy things and so I would do that I would take a trip like that if I had actually had the opportunity to have a family and then already about not seeing again. But but then of course when I got back came back to Earth after going to the other side of the galaxy it's going to be a quarter 1000000 years into the future that would be a lot of fun to see that too. But you have nobody to share it with and you can easily solve this problem by traveling with with friends. You form a nomadic society this is probably ours and you can actually arrange to travel to different places so you both off to this area of the Galaxy I'm going to travel on the opposite direction of areas that droughts even for the time everything right you and I will come back back here on Earth about a quarter of a 1000000 years from now. If we can then compare. Well you know or they just stay here maybe they live here you know permanently. We're talking with Kevin canoe Robert Powell rich Hoffman I asked do you Kevin are you sticking around you got to go. I don't hear kept Ok I think maybe Kevin drop we'll see if he's coming back but meantime we're going to take a little break we go into the break with a group from Rich's backyard the Alabama Shakes. Thank. You. Thank. You. To. Let. Me. Imagine a pharmacy experience where you can text or call an expert pharmacist any time you have a question and they'll answer immediately where you automatically get the lowest prices on your medication costs. Well without having to look for discounts or coupons or sell where your prescriptions are handling for the same day or any day that works for your schedule don't just imagine head to ultimate outcome and see why customers have left over 1005 star reviews that's. Except most major insurance . 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