Ates a shocking Department of Homeland Security memo obtained by Buzz Feed News reveals how inadequate medical care contributed to the deaths of at least 4 immigrants in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ice the memo includes revelations from an ice whistleblower about how one man died from meningitis after grossly negligent care the whistleblower also said official reports on one of the 4 deaths were very misleading the d.h.s.s. Memo also includes reports of immigrants being administered incorrect medication or being given such grossly and adequate medical care they had to have preventable surgeries one of the victims of medical neglect was an 8 year old child whose rare infection inside his skull was misdiagnosed as an ear infection he was given only eardrops a few weeks later after the infection spread the child had to have his frontal bone surgically removed. And President Trump as a tax Swedish 16 year old climate activists give it to Betty who has just been named Time magazine's Person of the year she's the youngest person to ever receive the honor on Thursday Trump attacked the teenager on Twitter tweeting quote must work on her anger management problem then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend chill grab a chill he tweeted in response to President Trump's attack changed her Twitter bio to mock the president of the United States writing quote a teenager working on her anger management problem currently chilling and watching a good old fashioned movie with a friend unquote Trump's Twitter spat with a teenager comes after President Trump did not win Time magazine's Person of the year last year instead being named the runner up and those are some of the headlines This is Democracy Now democracy now got or the war and peace report I mean the Goodman. And I mean we're broadcasting from inside the United Nations Climate Change Conference here in Madrid Spain but we begin today's show in the United Kingdom where Prime Minister Barak's Johnson and his Conservative Party have won a decisive majority in the highly anticipated general election winning seats in Labor Party strongholds and all but guaranteeing Britain's exit from the European Union by early next year in the Labor party's worst electoral defeat in 84 years the conservatives are projected to win 364 seats in the British House of Commons versus only 203 for the Labor Party this would give the conservatives the largest majority since 987 when Margaret Thatcher was in power this is Prime Minister Barak Johnson addressing the nation this morning with this mandate and this majority we will be able to do. Pay attention because this this election being is that breaks down the irrefutable irresistible. Decision. Of the British people we will get done. By the 31st of January no ifs no buts no babies leaving the European Union as one united kingdom taking back control of all those borders money trade immigration system delivering all the democratic mandate of the people. And that the same toy this one mission to the government will massively increase our investment in the n.h.s. The health service the represents the very best of our country with the single beautiful idea. Reelection marks a crushing defeat for Labor leader germy Corben who said Thursday night he would step down as the party's leader after a period of reflection. Of social justice and the issues of needs of people will not go away just because it is dealt with in the way in which Boris Johnson presumably plans to deal with it the moment all those issues will come back center stage in the debate on the fundamental labor message about justice and equality within our society is going to be one that is there for all time because it's the very core of what my party believes in and what I will always advocate on behalf of my constituency and on behalf of my party. I want to also make it clear that I will not lead the party in any future general election campaign. The British election also delivered a decisive win for Scottish National Party leader Nicholas Sturgeon who said Friday the election was quote an overwhelming indorsement of a 2nd referendum on Scottish independence also in Scotland limit Liberal Democrat leader Joseph Winston has stepped down after losing his seat in an election night that left a party with only 11 seats for more on what this election means for Bracks said the climate crisis national health care and much more we were joined by 2 guests we go to England to Oxford were George right we're joined by George Monbiot columnist for The Guardian author of Out of the wreckage a new politics for an age of crisis and joining us via democracy now video stream from Bangalore India is Priya Gopal university lecturer in the faculty of English at the University of Cambridge author of the new book insurgent empire I think colonial resistance and British descent George Monbiot Let's go to you in Oxford 1st well if you can just respond to what took place in your country. It is a very dark day for everyone who believes in drug injustice for everyone here who wants a kind of fair a green nation arguably the darkest day that we've had since the end of the 2nd World War in this country and we've now stick to the same political arena as the u.s. Has been trying to India has with Modi as the Philippines have we do to Brazil with both these very dangerous times just when we need to confront the greatest predicament humankind has ever faced which is the collapse of on life support. Systems our governments are in the hands of giant toddlers who just want to smash up all our public protections our public services any means by which the power of capital and those who accumulate it can be restrained. George can you talk of those speculate about what you think accounts for the scale of the victory I mean many thought that virus Johnston would win this election but not by such a major landslide. Well I think there are several factors one is that they have learnt from they have learned from Modi they have learnt from the referendum result in the u.k. 3 years ago basically cheating and lying when particularly when you can weaponize it through social media on a massive scale with unaccountable dark ouds where nobody knows what anybody else is seeing that is a highly effective and highly dangerous tactic and they have refined it and refined it so that it is now winning elections all over the world these are really perilous times for democracy we also had an opposition in the form of the Labor Party that was quite internally divided that didn't help at all it failed for far too long to articulate a clear position on BRICs it it failed to deal with some of its own crises particularly the anti semitism crisis which it should have moved on much more swiftly and firmly than it did. But we also you know it was really swimming against the tide particularly the power of the billionaire press in this country the enormous amount of funding poured into the Conservative Party and series of other democratic undemocratic forces. Along with the radical right now which have taken over the conservative. Pru go wrong here usually at Cambridge University you're now in Bangalore India but it's certainly interesting to see Britain from that perspective as well were you surprised by the results of the election and what message do you think that it sent. India where our We've just had the citizenship Amendment Delaware at the national list of voluntary enforcers have won an election for the 2nd time earlier this year I think that I simply see Britain as the latest footnote if you like in what George just referred to as the global. States that democracy is what we're seeing is the authoritarian right Graham pushing across the globe and in a way Britain has simply joined Brazil India and Hungary Poland and I'm of course the USA we do need to see what is happening in Britain in the global context and that should worry us very greatly. Appreciate Could you talk specifically about what George said about the Labor Party itself being internally divided and also the fact that the Labor Party doesn't quite represent the working classes or was abandoned by the working class as you agree with. The hour when I mean I think that the argument that it was abandoned by the working classes is greatly overstated I mean for one thing we have gaps to get the final numbers the final voting demographics I think that when people say perhaps our labor was abandoned by the working classes that actually often making a slightly racialize statement what they're saying is that people who consider themselves whites and. So-called indigenous Britons have voted against migrants and ethnic minorities and it is important to point out you are the working classes of Britain like the working class is pretty much anywhere else including the USA It is not a margin as it consists of different communities it consists of different religions and so there is no yardstick by which you can say labor was abandoned as a whole by the working classes we don't know that for sure and even with the Bracks referendum the working class which I would say was divided yes there were certain labor strongholds that did vaulted Eve Amber did fortunately on an explicitly xenophobic anti migrant platform which was furthered by the kinds of lying and cheating on the part of the media that Georgia referred to earlier as holders of labor itself is concerned yes it is a party that is divided against itself but it is also true that they failed to take not just a clear position on rights and but I think they failed to educate people on the failure to educate each their own constituency about what you know what sorts of lawyers were being spread particularly that the law is that austerity was somehow the responsibility of Europe when in fact the austerity that people were pushing back against is very much. A Tory program and this was a very successful model and I think that because they didn't take a sufficiently clear position on early on they also fails to educate their own constituencies about the ins and outs of it and I think that that has resulted in bands that at the end of the day. Are George Monbiot. Gary Young writes in The Guardian Labor will now after face the fact that the electorate did not abandon labor for the center they were neither to the far right of England and Wales or to the Social Democratic National stop turn of events Scotland you have called this election the climate. Do you all now think that's what this way said about. Well it's it's really disappointing that you know for the 1st time we had some very strong climate and environmental policies in the platforms of several of the major parties and that to me was quite exciting but you would hardly have known it from the media coverage it was scarcely touched on. Just as the politicians are finally taking these issues seriously the media is always turns its back on them and looks the other way and talks about bricks and talks about immigration and the economy and crime and all the old 20th century issues and so it's you know I mean this great opportunity we had finally to take action on our greatest ever crisis. Has once more been lost and that is tremendously disappointing I mean I don't well obviously I don't trust Johnson on anything but I particularly don't trust him on environmental issues. His whole schtick is really to just give the oligarchy what they want whether they're on shore on the Gazza or offshore accounts it doesn't matter because they support his party and he in turn supports them and they want a free hand to treat the living planet as their dustbin and to treat the people of the planet as their underpaid and exploitive workforce all consumers and so the idea that he would be a champion of environmental values unfortunately is a very remote hope indeed. I want to turn to Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaking this morning. You the people of this country voted to be carbon neutral in this election you voted to be carbon neutral by 2050 I will do you also voted to be called a neutral bike by Christmas. George Monbiot if you respond to what he just said. Well that is the government's official position carbon neutral by 2050 it's far too little far too late we unfortunately the science tells us we have more of us than there is a trial. Well you know just that's Boris Johnson with his silly soundbites. The. One thing we've learnt in this election is you cannot believe a word that Johnson says he is an inveterate liar he lies and lies and lies and cheats and lies and cheats and lies so if he says we're going to be carbon neutral by 2050 it's not true because nothing he says is true. Say whatever he needs to say to get through the situation that he happens to be in. But it's up to us those of us who are now the resistance in this country that's how I see us to fight him every step of the way whether it's on environmental climate issues it's critical that we do so whether it's on social justice issues whether it's on the defense of our public services we will fight him and fight him and we will develop alternatives and we will resist and we will rebuild and we will come out of this stronger than before but we're going to have to show a lot of unity we're going to have to drop the recriminations we're going to have to invest in solidarity invest in mutual aid help each other out of this appalling mess that we've fallen into in the u.k. We can do that but we're going to have to climb out of a pretty deep well of despair 1st. When George could you explain what the implications of Boris Johnson Johnson's electoral win errs I mean this massive majority that the conservatives have won the results mean that Johnson will be the most powerful prime minister since Tony Blair won a landslide for Labor in 1997 what do you anticipate Johnson will do with this landslide what kinds of legislation will he put forward. Johnson has no vision for the country he has a vision for a particular powerful class who are basically oligarchs extremely rich people who use their money often unrecorded to fund the lobby groups to fund the Conservative Party directly to fund our equivalent of political action committees which are just beginning to take off in the u.k. To to get what they want and he's been in their pocket throughout his political career and he knows what they want. They want an offshore deregulated economy where public protections are torn down where public services are ripped open to competition with the private sector or indeed to direct privatization and capture by the private sector and environmental regulations will go to the wall because those restrict the ability of the owner guards to make even more money to they want to be able to dump their pollutants they want to be able to seize natural wealth without paying for it we are in a very dangerous position indeed because this charlatan this law this cheat has taken power with a massive majority in this country and we don't even have the breaks on the system that you have in the us you know at least there are institutional means of resisting Donald Trump not least Congress but we don't have any such breaks because we don't have a clear separation of powers in this country we don't have a formal constitution in this country basically a prime minister with a large majority can take over most sovereign powers he can capture the old powers that the monarch used to have this is a very perilous situation indeed. 3 ago power if you can talk more about labor leader germy Korvin who says he's going to step down after a period of reflection the party goes through where do you think they should be focusing what do you think here and we should look overall at the Labor Party did right and wrong and also what do you think this means about the balance of power with Britain I mean with Grex it about to happen and both Boris Johnson and Trump as such close allies what that alliance will mean but start with Corbett. Well I think there are. Bands will be talking about in all honesty there is very little than the man who calls 8. Like any other political leader who's made his misstep explore also ditch produce hour of vision for a significantly more progressive and reform social democratic system and he did put the idea out there and I think the bishops are making some sense of knowledge the fact that in these extremely rightwing perilous times where in many countries there isn't an alternative as a good example are there is some type of viable opposition he did or not those in the Labor Party did put forward a viable oppositional program a viable imaginative alternative of viable progressive vision and Jeremy Corbin the man mistakes on board failures notwithstanding I think ease old are a debt of gratitude for having put an alternative out there there was also Germany caught in the media. And I do think we should not underestimate how deeply vicious how deeply mendacious the media the billionaire plutocratic media in Britain has been and the construction of core there now has a far left and to see why it's not withstanding this is not very good handling of the ad to senators of Bashir in the Labor Party or the painting of him personally as an anti see my it as a kind of far left are your log I mean he's even been described on the b.b.c. As a blazing are ideologues which is just absolute across given many years essentially of fairly middle of the road social democrats committed to fairly middle of the road social democratic reforms so I think there are 2 German Corman's And I think the Blair Jerricho mistakes notwithstanding is all the data facts in terms of the larger global picture I think what we really need to worry about is a global right wing I mean or directly in these elections we have seen the interference of our groups linked to the b j p who are more realized amongst British Indians claiming that the Labor Party in addition to being anti Semitic was all. So supposedly and he do now a lot this is because Coleman is a long standing critic of more the end in part because the Labor Party took a principled position on the lockdown in Kashmir but what we do see is a global right wing we've seen some more or less interfere with just Electoral College sense of me I've seen the Indian white way interfere with British electoral politics in ways that I think would have been condemned immediately if this of been happening in any other kind of country with any other kind of foreign power I think we really need to be on the notes for what is happening internationally and on a global scale and the extent to which is like being force is a good ethical nationalist authoritarian forces all working hand in hand of the extent to which they have already. Boris Johnson has undoubtedly deeply damaging program that is ahead of us now. George Monbiot are right now. We're just looking at an article by or comments by a. Son who wrote about what this means particularly for Muslims for women he wrote dark day for minorities in the u.k. Especially for British Muslims who watched as a man who said this slum was the problem mocking veiled Muslim women and also turned a blind eye to massive anti muslim hatred in this party which just given a landslide majority by their fellow Britons George response. Well it's a long time since we've had the racist prime minister in this country there's been a dog whistle racism but in this case he just comes out and says it similar to the way the dogs. Yes And this is a very frightening time indeed the stuff he said about Muslims the stuff he said about people of color and then in the manifesto and actual stated commitment effectively to wipe out another threatened group which are the Romany Gypsies and Travellers in this country who are a protected ethnic group they were also subject to the Holocaust about 500000. Roman is incentive were killed by the Nance's and yet here they are actually in the Conservative manifesto which basically says we're going to drive them out we're going to engage in in a cultural cleansing affectively of these people from our country and either they're going to go and just live in houses and not pursue their culture anymore or they're going to be in prison we're going to jail them for pursuing their culture it couldn't be more blatant it couldn't be more terrifying but it's it's there right in black and white in in their platform so you know this is really really frightening and we know that whenever he runs into trouble Johnson is going to use xenophobia and racism and scapegoating obviously agreements of Muslims of the poor in the week in general of Romany and travelers in particular he's going to use all that to deflect attention from the many problems that he's going to run into particularly as he tries to implement Breck's it particularly as some of his lies and cheating are exposed he's going to turn it towards the the classic scapegoating of of minority people with potentially very frightening implications for those peoples and it's up to all of us who believe in social justice to see. Sounded solidarity with those people and defend them from the inevitable attacks. And George we just have a minute now but if you could comment on what you think the majority the massive majority for the Tories means for Scotland does this mean that there will be a 2nd referendum or that there ought to be an independence. Yes I'm pretty sure that there will be I mean certainly the Scots are going to be pushing for it very hard now Scotland was very much anti BRICs it the large majority want to stay the European Union with independence they would be able to do that they would be able to become an independent member of the European Union and they won't be in the position of the having the block of concrete which is the u.k. Thrown out of the boat with their ankle attached to it which is you have how it's going to be with them for breaks if they stay within the union within the United Kingdom so I would be surprised if Scotland does not leave the United Kingdom before long we could potentially see Northern Ireland going the same way that's a possibility. We're looking at the breakup of the United Kingdom which isn't necessarily a bad thing I support the Scots in their pursuit of independence but it's just one of the many implications of these really volatile times which we now face. And we have 30 seconds for Priya Gopalan Bangalore usually in Cambridge England you tweeted. The coming months 2 things are vital everywhere coalitions and alliances in a global perspective in real internationalism what gives you hope at this point. Focus people organizing for instance in India where the situation is 60. Diop are people calling for civil disobedience against the new racist discriminatory law against Muslims people calling our civil servants and police officers resigning from their positions people refusing to accept what is happening to Kashmir and. Our people forming alliances are to stand between the state and vulnerable populations and people making alliances across civil society organizations indigenous peoples who are standing up to protect resources and forests and I think that we need alliances within countries are and across countries and we need to resist civil disobedience I think would be a very good start. Froogle Paul want to thank you so much for being with us university lecturer in the faculty of English at the University of Cambridge Her new book insurgent Empire anti colonial resistance and British descent and George Monbiot journalist author columnist with The Guardian His most recent book out of the wreckage a new politics for an age of crisis when we come back we'll look at how rich countries are continuing to evade cutting emissions in these final days of the climate summit cop out $25.00 Stay with us. And a good Friday the 13th to you the weekend is here Christmas is creeping up. 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Minor but no news that was your performed by the London Philharmonic and David Perry This is Democracy Now I mean the good men wear the Nermeen Shaikh as we broadcast from inside the u.n. Climate summit here in Madrid Spain in its final days while deadly droughts flooding psych loans and wildfires rage outside the conference center the rich countries most responsible for the Climate Emergency have spent the dialing back ambition and blocking progress that's what activists scientists indigenous and grassroots climate leaders are challenging in the last days of this year's climate conference as 2 weeks of negotiations wrapped up without crucial commitments from the country's most responsible for global emissions this week more than 70 developing countries have announced the accelerate their climate plans and 72 countries have signed on to goals to reach net 0 carbon emissions by 2050 but major carbon emitters Australia China India Brazil and Saudi Arabia have made no such promises while the u.s. Is slated to pull out of the Paris agreement entirely by next year Meanwhile a new study finds at the climate crisis is already leading to a massive increase in the number of refugees being displaced around the world in Berkeley California we're joined by a policy analyst with the Global Justice Program at the ring and belonging Institute at the University of California Berkeley He's the co-author of The New reports climate refugees the climate crisis and rights to 9 year in Madrid Spain we're joined by Celine Mohawk climate scientist director of the International Center for Climate change and development in Bangladesh advising the bloc of least developed countries in the climate negotiations we welcome you both to Democracy Now so let's begin with you I mean you have as so many have said these corn emergencies taken. Around the world right now you've got the wildfires in Australia you've got the floods you've got the droughts. You've got climate migration of the level we haven't seen what is happening here is this a cop out and what really was the u.s. Plan and I think the year 2019 will in hindsight be seen as the tipping point when human induced climate change became reality we can now actually be that many of the things you just said the magnitude of them being over anything we've seen before and that can be attribute it to the fact that we have already increased global temperature by well over one degree centigrade and that it's already having the impacts and we had it for 3 degrees and nowhere near the one and a half degrees that we want to do so what we're seeing in reality is that the impacts of causing damage they're causing loss of life loss of biodiversity and what we need the one from supporting us to do is step up to that challenge that is being given from the rest of the world particularly the young children of the world that were out here in Madrid half a 1000000 of them last Friday but I don't see a lot of signs of the negotiators responding to that in the us would be particularly difficult What is the us doing I mean on the one hand. Crumpets pulling the us out of the climate conference but they are also as each day goes by working today Lou any kind of lead up to next year the evaluation of the climate Paris climate accord so the specific technical point here in Madrid in its 25th one since the party it's something called the review of the Warsaw international mechanism on loss and damage the developing countries have a united front here we want that review to take it forward with an implementation arm and a finance arm and the financial. Part is something that the United States is completely against and so far we haven't got a decision on that explain finance funding for loss and damage as opposed to funding for adaptation and mitigate right that's a lot of u.n. Speak most people don't really get it basically. Giving some funding to the victims of the impacts of climate change that we have seen allowing funding to be raised for the victims you know if you could just give a broader sense I mean we've been coming to the climate summit for many years as indeed have you many people argue that even though the pace of change is very very slow it's an important venue for developing countries to be able to express in solidarity their position to the richer countries what do you see is the significance of these annual meetings where it seems every year a little gets achieved that's in the interest of the people who have been suffering the most from the effects of the climate crisis when we live in an unjust and unequal world and as the vulnerable countries the least developed countries the. Advice of 47 of them in sub-Saharan Africa and including my country Bangladesh this is the only game in town where we have a seat at the table where we can actually say something and hope that the other side will listen a lot of the time they don't listen but sometimes they do we're hoping in Madrid we'll get them to listen within the next few hours that you have left you describe what's happening in your own country of Bangladesh or my country Bangladesh is one of the most vulnerable to the impacts of climate change we are a live on the death of 2 of the major rivers of the world the gunships in the Brahmaputra we have a population of $160.00 plus 1000000 people living in less than 150000 square kilometers the population density of over a 1000 per square kilometer very vulnerable very generally poor but nevertheless one of the most resilient countries we have found we have one of the best warning and shelter systems in the world we can warn an evacuee more than 2 and a half. 1000000 people we recently had a major cycle where we did so we are struggling but we are writing to the challenge of dealing with the impacts of climate change but there's a limit to what we can do one and a half degrees we can manage 3 degrees. We're going to go to a break and we're going to come back to this is Scott and we're going to talk about this massive crisis of climate migration we're talking millions and millions of people the numbers only promising to grow where was so in my hock from the Bangladeshi climate movement to a climate scientists Joining us also will be hosts and I Yasi at the University of California Berkeley who just left but did a report here on climate refugees stay with us. And you're listening to K.C.'s be on tonight she Democracy Now on P.C.'s be. Right around this is democracy now Democracy Now dot org The War and Peace Report I mean a good many with Nermeen Shaikh were brought. Casting from inside the u.n. Climate summit here in Madrid Spain in the last few days of this climate summit that people are calling a cop out that we inside that climate summit have seen mass protests here and yet still it limps along and outside the number of people who are so affected by the climate catastrophe a new study finds that the climate crisis is already leading to a massive increase in the number of refugees being displaced around the world in booky California we are joined by who sent. Policy analyst with the Global Justice Program at the other ring and belonging Institute at the University of California Berkeley He's the co-author of the new report climate refugees the climate crisis and rights denied and still with us here in Madrid a 70 month climate scientist and the director of the International Center for Climate change and development in. He's advising the bulk of the least developing the least developed countries here in the climate negotiations so send I Yes he could to lay out what you found in this report on climate refugees how many are there what countries are the worst affected. Yes So. We're finding in the report that permanent and short term displacement due to the climate crisis is only increasing in 2018 for example of the 20000000 new displaced persons over 17000000 were just placed to to weather related natural disasters and these displaced and surviving large across the global south one need only look to the droughts in Pakistan the floods in India and the crop failures and droughts in the Central American dry corridor that was behind the Central American migration caravan the migrant. Caravan that dominated news cycles last year and the 2nd finding in the report is that although we generally refer to climbing a deuce displaced persons as climate refugees this is actually not legally recognized term as in this is not a term with a and international refugee protections and in fact the un High Commissioner for Refugees does not officially endorse the term climate refugees and this is really emblematic of the issue at large and that across international refugee law international human rights law or national humanitarian law and other bodies of law protections for climate refugees are limited piecemeal and by and large not legally binding. So you were here is that right her saying I. Know I was not. But some of your colleagues work this issue of climate refugees right now how does what's happening inside u.n. Climate summit affect what's happening outside this discussion you we're having with you about climate refugees and if you can talk more about for example what you mean by Petro persecution. Or so I'll start with your 2nd question and that Petro persecution is the main notion that we're advancing within the report and it's a term basically we've identified a major barrier and negotiations toward refugee protections for climate refugees in order to obtain refugee status when you cross international borders due to a. Real risk of persecution on the basis of one's race ethnicity religion and other circumstances. But this this this notion of persecution with an refugee law assumes that the. Source of persecution in the act or the persecutor is either one's country of origin in the government or internal to one's country of origin and this is not how forced migration under the climate crisis works in fact. When we when we think of forced migration under the climate crisis it's it's fundamentally impossible to tie a specific climate related or natural disaster to a specific act of persecution or whether it's corporation fossil fuel corporations or fossil fuel dependent industrial processes. Only many of the. Countries that are greatest risk of the effects of climate crisis are in fact working hard to protect their own populations to keep them in place to ensure that they have the livelihoods to remain in place and so what we're trying to do with this notion of petro persecution is one in dealing with the notion of persecution from territory by that I mean the climate crisis is a global phenomenon and so we need to recognize it as such within international refugee law and the 2nd notion and the 2nd thing that we want to advance within this notion of petro persecution and that. Is that the act of persecution is actually our global dependence upon fossil fuels and the global investment patterns behind's of this dependence. And I was saying you have report doesn't just look at climate refugees in the sense of people who are forced to flee across borders but also people who've been forced to flee their homes with countries internally displaced people could you talk about that what did you find how many people are affected and. By and large most migration due to the climate crisis and most migration with forced migration in general is internal and and this is something that we state clearly in the report and that. And that is actually. People displaced internally do have the the legally recognized. Ability to to. Gain research billeted to resettle within their country of origin and stay put and the issue that we found in the report is that. While while the internally displaced peoples do have the means to for or recourse and redress in some way or another that this is not at all the case for peoples forced across international borders so when we discuss refugees whether climate refugees or not we're really talking about movement across international borders and how as certain island nations for example are at risk of complete inundation or does or difficult makes entire countries potentially inhabitable that people are forced to flee their country and that there is no place for them to resettle at home and this is the major gap and international refugee law that we're that we're shining a light on. Refugees. Yes So this notion of food refugees is one that we are using to define people communities displaced due to growing food insecurity and this can be due to a number of dynamics this is this could be due to land grabs or natural resource grabs seed monopolies international free trade agreements basically what people might describe as the corporate food regime or a corporate food system and this structural vulnerability that that communities face as a result of this this larger system actually intersects with the climate crisis in the sense that natural disasters exacerbated by the climate crisis. Forced people to Already force already vulnerable People's to search elsewhere for sustainable livelihoods and so while we recognize that the term climate refugee is different from food refuse. That you are really interested and and need to be recognized as as both the Sting's categories yet fundamentally inseparable. Very quickly before we end. This year we're in Madrid Spain next year Glasgow What do you expect to happen in this time or does it even matter what happens here is it the action in the streets the only thing that makes a difference like the young climate activists by the millions going on school climate strike demanding that their leaders pay attention I think it still matters so I think it does matter because this is where the leaders are this is where the leaders are negotiating they have to listen to their own kids who are out on the streets shouting at them and telling them that they're ruining their own future so we have to hope that they will listen between now and we hope we get a result in Madrid that on the particular issue that I'm concerned about get a funding mechanism for loss and damage opened up for discussion which we can come back to him when he whether or not we can actually make it happen we're not asking for it to happen here we're asking for it to be allowed to be made here and we're hopeful that we might get that we want to thank you both so much for being with us Sally Mohawk climate scientist director of the International Center for Climate Change development in Bangladesh and I say Ozzie policy analyst and co-author of the new report climate refugees the climate crisis and rights denied a link to that report at Democracy Now dot org That does it for our coverage right here on site at the 25th United Nations Climate Change Summit we want to say a special thanks to our crew right here in Madrid but we'll let them. Speak their own names in their own words from the I don't know if he'd anybody any answers but I know that a lot of this is my way and there were no signs that he got me here in years. And. And thank you also the crew helped us with our lives to last Friday from. Social and climate and I got to say out in the rain a kind of I was and the last as I am to the not 1st now prove here on the ground in Madrid where the rainy Harlem Wells their mainstay John Hamilton County in the suturing and their alarm God is the memory of Paris and I believe that Thomas Adriano contrasts Dennis Myna hand patio and special thanks to July Crosby Welcome back to Miriam Barnard and very welcome to the world to not a king I mean government with their mind set. On k.g.s. B.f.m. Santa Barbara 91.9 we got into democracy now a little early this morning thanks to finals week here at u.c.s.b. If you missed the beginning and want to catch up with it you can go to Democracy Now dot org slash static and click on the latest episode and you'll catch the beginning of that we're going to get into alternative radio at 9 o'clock and that's followed by Native America Calling since we have a little extra time wanted to throw on this special program I don't know if you heard about this but u.c.s.b. Recently became platinum designation as a bike friendly university and one of our case e.s.p. News reporters I sick tongue spoke with one of the professors here on campus that helped him to make this happen can a hill is a professor of English an environmental studies who co-chairs the campus sustainability sustainable transportation committee and he spoke with icicle our news reporter about what it meant to be a platinum bike University this is part 2 of the interview where he's talking about a little bit more about bikes and by culture here in Iowa has to end at u.c.s.b. . By accident a lot one of the bike accidents incident came from a high schooler that tried to cross the path i.v. And broke her arm in the purses What do you see there are some ways you can decrease bike accidents. You know it's a great question in fact I have a meeting next Tuesday morning with health services here trying to think about that they go to way of course would be helmets so if you look at most people on bikes u.c.s.b. Do not have helmets there's a state you know California law does not require bicycles to have helmets unless you have a certain class of electric bike that would be something to it is an issue I mean it's an absolute issue and especially armed Yeah but I think from what I understand a lot of a better understanding of that when I meet with the people here regarding the health issues that head injuries are the principal one and helmets can help with a lot we don't want to hurt ourselves that's where we as our specialty assume is the brain that's right that's right but I mean something to keep in mind though that in terms of serious accidents across the country well over 90 percent of serious bicycle accidents involve cars if you can have dedicated bicycle paths which we do throughout here and that's something really worthwhile to note that it's not like we principally share bicycle routes with cars on the world campus here and that's really one of the big things you can do and that will dramatically bring things down there are still issues you mentioned one in helmets can help a lot too but that's a big thing I also noticed a lot of scooters taking the bike path. Isn't that illegal isn't it as far as I know it's illegal Yeah with the electric shooters and all 200 scooters have a problem on campus right because there are a few on one right near here has that are just for skateboards and all but you can't have electric scooters where you can walk or can you have bicycles and they have more for personal mobility solutions and I'm intrigued by the idea of scooters I actually have a kick scooter myself but not in the electrical and you really have to figure you know where they will go and having them just go on to the bicycle routes those problem what about having signs to tell people about the rules of the bike like the 1st I came to u.c.s.b. Which was. In 2902017 and so to see this go up I learned all 'd about like like rules on that on that day then make it clear like when you were exiting the parking lot and there's like a bike route just there and I don't remember that they said like bikes have the right way or something no to offer educational bicycles and that's kind of a controversial issue because most things about bikes that anyone can ride than me very very young child riding them but as a consequence because there's no license There's no training at all there's nothing in the state even the basic courtesy on the road of basic things about how bugs interact with each other a lot of people just don't know that's a real issue it would be sniffing an idea you have to put up a sign or something in water where they would go but it would be great to sort of underscore what laws and courtesies are for campus. I can get stolen quite a bit in the campus what are some ways you can think of to prevent that you could be wrong on this but what I've heard is the number 2 things thrown our laptops and bicycles and part of that for laptops too in bicycles you need to lock them so a lot of people leave their laptop later to the bathroom in the library or come back in the school and if you're just going to park your bike for a minute you leave there at school on a good luck obviously makes a huge difference it's a pain I know with my bike I mean sometimes you're looking for a good spot to lock to the lawyer like I said I live downtown and I was actually look cumber puzzle one day and I was writing all around the entire shopping center and there wasn't a single bicycle lock in the whole place so we have bike racks that are on campus and or free and they are secure there and you need to have a pretty good law too so a lot of people have like those thinner locks I know they're quick and easy and they snap and all but from my personal experience invest in a good you should bicycle lock they're pretty rate I mean they can be broken too but you're going to have people on campus here with you know big hydraulic splitters to open them up and all just steal them a little almost lock in my experience was like that's a pretty casual things of opportunity so lock your boy you know how much would you say you need to lock your bike in that place before somebody tries to steal it. You know I don't know you know I don't know that I would worry about like leaving it overnight and things of sorts I mean that's different if where you live I mean that's one thing but I mean to leave the campus here all that might be a problem there may be statistics on things like that I don't know what how long it takes who puts come under the test I see a lot of bikes on campus that are still stuck to the rock and they've been rusty and they're missing wheels Yeah that's a problem and I forget the group it's basically like the security force here at u.c.s.b. They just don't have the number of people who do it every now and again they will come by and cut those bikes off and we have a lot where they all go we're not again I'm not sure in the time where you can actually go and come up for auction you can buy bikes and all that are taken from there the fact of the matter is if we had more people to do what they would be taken off pretty frequently we just don't have the people do it because for the reason you said you mean there it's not like you can just unlock them and take them you have to cut through that lock and you have to do everything in this kind of a job yeah in 201300 bikes were reportedly stolen while 201-4200 were stolen I think the difference was or you just said lock your bike Be sure to keep it safe and don't leave it overnight it's not a good idea. Even where you live I mean if you can bring your bike into your house and apartment Wherever I think that makes and I like to have my apartment to myself in the time I can yeah I know I used to have a rock paying my bike on the wall uses up people's kind of like art no one really bought that but do you honestly I mean my back I have electric bike and all I mean in my house when I'm home when I get here over to my office and I just keep it with me and I think the best thing you can do you can always do it like you're coming on campus blocking it was an express thing you know I have a very big log my log is the rule book a 5 pound block but. It's better than it was in the place if you register the bike lock with the police force they should be able to help you find your bike guy that's very I'm not sure exactly how their program works but everyone should do that because I don't know how it works there but he. Then 33 percent of the bikes are registered u.c.s.b. And the ones that do get stolen there's a one search chance that you may get it back according to what I'm familiar with the program previous with a like when I was at Harvard along they put an actual sticker on your bike and it's registered and often they you know they know where the sticker is made when a bike is found they can find that very subject to you because what may happen for example someone might you know a lark as an opportunity grab your bike was not locked ride it up to a store or something and then just leave it sitting there but if you don't have that bike registered police or whatever find it it will never come back to you but then there are that bike years they'll find from you know code on the Security number and I'll give you a call all right is there anything else you would like to add no other than bicycling is a great activity and it's something to think about because more and more in cities and most people on the planet now live in cities and the big move towards cities which is great environmentally bicycling is a wonderful form of transportation and a lot of people just assume you know you get out of u.c.s.b. You're going to go ahead and buy a car or something you know the cost to own and operate a cars like $9000.00 a year it's incredibly expensive for the average American is like 20 percent of your after tax income Yeah I think bikes bikes Well if we go to last into so be very hard bike is very spread out let's say plus Angeles is the worst example for that reason if you talk about other cities along your Horton's your. Severance is go most places like that and all the other hand it is very slow to commute in Los Angeles by car because of the freeways and also the longest commute in the United States and Santa Monica there is the 10 so you might actually beat their commute on a bike even in a place like santa monica so pencil how long you're going that's Casey s.p.s. Isaac telling speaking out with can help learn who works here on campus and he is on the sustainable transportation committee. U.c.s.b. Was recently named apply to lead the elite he they received the elite platinum designation as a bike friendly university if you ever drive through who you are of ever walk through campus at primetime you'll see the bike highway that goes right along right all the way across campus so I can get a little treacherous sometimes you definitely want to be paying attention if you're walking around here on campus but it's great that we're being recognized to as a platinum university so that was part 2 of Isaac tongues a chat with can help or you can catch the 1st part on our Sound Cloud Sound Cloud dot com slash case e.s.p. F.m. Just wanted to run that since we got into democracy now a little bit early and now it's time for Alternative Radio right here on case e.s.p. F.m. 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