Officials say the lockdown may continue through monday, since, they say, terrorists are looking at places here where they could inflict mass casualties. Its unsettling here in brussels this morning, a usually bustling European Capital paralyzed. Soldiers patrolling streets. The u. S. Embassy ordering americans here to shelter in place. A parisstyle attack is what theyre expecting, the threat deemed serious and imminent. But on the second day of the high alert, tourists were milling around. Usually lively grand plaza. Christmas tree. Armored vehicle. Its not normal, you know. Reporter local police were offering assurances. We need to have support from the army, so everything is secure here in brussels. Reporter in neighboring france, officials are still looking for clues after the suspected planner of the paris attacks, abdelhamid abaaoud, was killed in a shootout on wednesday. And the manhunt growing for the worlds most wanted man, the eighth paris terrorist. Salah abdeslam, Authorities Say he drove to belgium. The lawyer for his companions telling abc news, he looked angry and was possibly wearing a suicide belt. Meanwhile, the survivors in paris still haunted, the lead singer of the American Band performing at the bataclan talked to vice news. A great reason why so many were killed is because so many people wouldnt leave their friends. Reporter the spector of the jihadist threat is also rising in mali, where al qaeda is claiming credit for that deadly hotel siege. An american survivor telling his harrowing story to abcs alex marquardt. You already resigned yourself to the fact that you were dead. Yeah, basically. They never looked, they were shooting, the shells were hitting me. They never looked. Reporter from africa, to europe, to the front line in the front against isis, this week we were in iraq, where isis holds huge swaths of territory, but the kurds have had some success in pushing isis back. With help from american advisers, but the threat is still enormous. The kurdish fighters have taken up positions all around kirkuk, this soldier has his eye on isis. Meanwhile, this morning, in asia, president obama insisting that destroying isis is a realistic goal. The most powerful tool we have to fight isis is, to say that were not afraid. So, martha, you have spent this week on both fronts, which is at least a twofront war . Reporter it really is, george, when you go into iraq and you see the continuing air strikes and we were in the command center where theyre conducting those air strikes under pretty strict rules of engagement. Well have to keep our eye on that and see whether they loosen those rules of engagement. But here in brussels, the transition wasnt that difficult, because you have soldiers all over the street, you have armored personnel carriers as we saw. Kind of like being in iraq. Also here, were in a small square, just across from me is the home of where the missing terrorist used to live, and here, i talked to some people on the streets today, including a 15yearold girl, and i asked her what its like to live in this neighborhood. She said yes, we do have some terrorists in the neighborhood but were not all terrorists, were frightened ourselves of whats happening. Were going to turn now to the political fallout from these terrorist attacks. Our new poll shows that Hillary Clinton holds a commanding lead on the democratic side but Bernie Sanders has gained nine points since joe biden decided hes not running and donald trump leads over ben careson. Followed by ted cruz and jeb bush. Donald trump joins us live after this report from jon karl. Reporter the president was half a world away in asia this week, but it seemed like he was on the campaign trail, repeatedly slamming republicans who want to keep syrian refuges out of the United States. Apparently theyre scared of widows and orphans coming into the United States as part of our tradition of compassion. Reporter back in washington, his own party was defying him. Nearly four dozen House Democrats joining republicans voting to stop admitting Syrian Refugees until the government can certify they pose no threat. More than half the countrys governors have vowed to keep Syrian Refugees out of their are thoroughly vetted. And pose no more threat than tourists. With two of the paris terrorists now suspected of sneaking into france as refugees, one using this doctored passport, Security Fears have soared. Our new poll shows a majority now oppose to taking in refugees. The threat says terrorism is second to economy. 54 disapprove of the president s handling of terrorism altogether. On the campaign trail, ben carson came under fire. For comparing the screening of refugees to protecting children from rabid dogs. If theres a rabid dog running around your neighborhood, you probably not going to assume something good about that dog and youre probably going to put your children out of the way. It doesnt mean that you hate all dogs. Reporter and donald trump spoke a furor when reporter asked him if he would support a database to track muslims in the United States . There should be a lot of systems beyond databases. We should have a lot of systems and today you can do it. How do you get them to register . Just good management. Reporter under fire from fellow republicans, trump said the database he wants is just for Syrian Refugees. I want database for those people coming in, i want surveillance if we have to, i want surveillance of certain mosques, okay. And jon karl joins us now. More results of that poll, which has been remarkably steady. Through major controversies and national debates. Just look at the numbers since september, marco rubio has gone up ever so slightly, bush down. But for donald trump and ben carson, the numbers are virtually unchanged, and consider this, it was our poll in july that first put donald matter what he has said, or what others have said about him, he has not budged from the frontrunner since then. You showed that tough numbers for president obama on terrorism, these terror attacks starting to transform this race. If you look at those numbers, george, the lowest approval for the handlingngf terrorism for president obama. On the republican side, though, trust to handle terrorism, lets bring in mr. Trump he joins us on the phone. You just heard those numbers, donald trump. Is the nomination now yours to lose . I dont know. I dont think about that. I think about the date, february 1st, thats iowa and then we have new hampshire. Were doing great in both place places. I think im leading in every state. But were doing really well. I was happy to hear your numbers. Im not surprised. People are tired, theyre sick and tired of incompetence and sick and tired of stupid people leading them. The deals they make, whether its trade or dealing with isis. Everything is wrong. I was after the oil. I said attack the oil, i have been telling you that for two years, attack the oil. They didnt do it. Isis became wealthy with the oil. Now theyre starting to attack the oil. You stirred up those comments with the database, are you now ruling out a database on all muslims . No, not at all. I wa a database for the refugees that, if they come into the country, we have no idea who these people are, when the Syrian Refugees start pouring into this country, we dont know if theyre isis or a trojan horse, i definitely want a database and other checks and babances. We have no idea whos being sent in here. This could be the great trojan horse of all time. When they come in. When i look at the migration and the lines and i see all strong, very powerfullooking men, theyre men, and i see very few women and children, theres something strange going on. When you see whats happening in europe, lot of bad things are happening in europe. Just ask the folks that live in germany. Lot of bad things are happening. But statistics do show george, we want to be vigilant. We have to be vigilant and we have to call it radical islamic terror. We have a president that wont even issue the term. When the syrians come in, or if theyre going to come in, we have to be very, very vigilant and a database would be fine for them and a watch list is fine. We have to watch and see. They should not come in, by the way, they should not be allowed in. Just for the record, though, the statistics do show majority of the refugees coming in are women and children. You also told yahoo news, we have to do things that are unthinkable a year ago. Do you think we should bring back enhanced interrogation like waterboarding . Well, we have to be strong. They dont use waterboarding. They used chopping off peoples heads. And they put people in cages and they drown them in the ocean. Ened were talking about waterboarding. We have i would bring it back, yes, i would bring it back. I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what theyre doing us. What they did to james foley, thats a whole different level. I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation. You also said we have to consider closing mosques. Jeb bush called that a sign of weakness. Well, jeb bush is a weak person, that has been definene very strongly. I mean, jeb bush is a weak person i call him a lowenergy person. You can call him anything you wawa. Jeb is a person thth will not a solve a problem like this. You have very, very tough people only understand strength, they dont understand weakness. Somebody like jeb, and others that are running against me and, by the way, Hillary Clinton is another one, hillary is a person who doesnt have the strength or the stamina in my opinion to be president. She doesnt have strength or stamina, shes not a Strong Enough person to be president. What would be your criteria to close a mosque . Were dealing with very, very strong people and you need strength and you need stamina. Hillary does not have that. What would be your criteria to closing mosque . Your top priority would be to preserve and protect liberties, is that only f christians . What are your criteria . I dont want to close mosques. I want to surveil mosques. We were doing in new york city for a while all mosques . Well, i do there are certain hotspots, and let me tell you, the people that are involved in those mosques, they know who t bad ones are and the good ones, but they dont talk, and we have to surveil the mosques. We were doing it until de blasio closed them up in new york city. We were doing it recently. We have to surveil the mosques. We were learning a lot and they were stopping problems and potential problems by learning what was happening. Hey, look, i dont want to close up mosques but things happen where you have to use strong measures or youre going to see buiings coming down. You want to keep terror watch list. Under current law, individuals under the watch list havavbeen allowed to buy guns and explosives, are you okay with that . We have to have a watch list, and if that watch list has somebody, you know, we have the laws right now, we have the laws already on the books, Second Amendment of guns. Im a really big proponent of the Second Amendment. Ill give you an example, if in paris some of those people, if you had some of those people had guns, you wouldnt have had the horror show that you had but why should somebody on the watch list have a gun . People are on a watch list, people are sick, you have already this is already covered in the legislation that we a aeady have, george e u uer current law, people on the watch list are allowed to buy guns. Listen, george, if we have an enemy of state, i dont want to give him anything, i want to have him ijail. Thats what i want. I wawa to have him . Jail. But if those people in paris had guns in that room it would have been a shootout and very few people would have been hurt by comparison tnumber were hurt. Yes or no, should someone on the terror watch list be alloweded to buy a gun . If somebody is on a watch list and enemy of state, i would keep him away, absolutely. You raised some eyebrows with comments you made at your latest rally relating to 9 11. I want to show them. Hey, i watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down and i watched in jersey city, new jersrs, where thousands s d thousands of people were coming down, thousands of people were cheering. You know, the police say that didnt happen at all. Ose rumors have been on the internet for some time. I saw it. You saw it with your own eyes . Cheering on the other side of jersey, whwhe you have large center came down. But there were people cheering as those buildings came down. That tells you something. It was well covered at the time, george. I know they dont like to talk about it. There were people over in new jersey watching it, hey arab population. Not good. The police say they didnt happen. I wouldnt to move on. Rivals have pounced on your database comments. A superpac supporting john kasich l lnched this attack ad against you. On the job training doesnt work. Benghazi, beheadings, paris. Our lives depend on a commander in chief with experice who undetstands the world. Clear implication is that you dont, what is your response to that ad . John kasich is going nowhere, one of the top p pple at lehman, hes going nowhere. Anybody who does an ad against me will be hit ten times. Look, they want to do it because im leading. You just came out with the poll that says im leading. Because people are sick and tired of stupid and incompetent people leading our nation. We have competent people, when president obama stands up and says isis is contained and, then a few hours later you have one of the most horrible attacks, and you have 300 people laying in the hospital, many of them dying,g,e have no idea, then he wants to take in people who have no documentation, no paperwork, no anything, from syria on the migration, people are going to come pouring in, and the number he wants is much higher than 10,000. Ive heard its 200,000. Thats the r rl number he wants. I have even heard 250,000. We have a president that doesnt know what hes doing. We have a president , george, whos totally incompetent. But finally, that superpac is not alone. Frontpage story in the wall street journal talks about gop operatives promising to launch a Guerrilla Campaign against trump. Theyre going to have the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into single antitrump force. If that happens, are you going to reconsider an independent run if they try to take you out . It will be very interesting, but im leading every poll a lot. I resonate with the people. I had 10,000 people yesterday, every place i ko, if crowds smaller than 10,000 its like a small crowd for me. Nobody else can get 200. I mean jeb bush and these guys, kasich, if he speaks, if he gets 20 people in a room its a lot i get crowds of 6,000, 10,000, 20,000, i had a 35,000 crowd in alabama. Well, im going to have to see what happens. Ill see what happens. I have to be treated fairly. I have to be treated fairly. Ififm treated fairly y m fine. All i want to do is a level playing field. I think people are surprised that, you know, their politicians and they have been doing this stuff all their lives. I have been a job producer, i have done fabulous developments all over the world. I have made a lot of money. Thats the kind of thinking we need in office, thats the kind of thinking we need in washington. And thatat why people are resonating with me. They know thereea great level of competence. We have a great level of incompetence right now in washington. Frankly, we have a lot of incompetend politicians running for office. And they donon understand, how can an outsider be doing so well within the party. When i was a contributor, i know more about contributions than anybody. Line. T now, all of a sudden, im somebody theyre a little bit, i guess, they cant understand whats happening. But whats happening is very simple. People want competence now. Theyre tired of incompetent people. Its as simple as that. Mr. Trump, thanks for your time this morning. Thank you very much. Up next, ben carson. Plus, in depth analysis from Martha Raddatz on how isis has become americas number one enemy. Announcer this week with orge stephanopoulos brought to you bybyacific life. 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I agree that theres no such thing as Political Correctness when youre e ghting an enemy who wants to destroy you and im not one whos real big on going to do and what were not going to do. But you would do that even though many consider waterboarding torture . Like i said, im not real big on t tling what we do. Monitor any churches or mosques where theres a lot of radicalization or things that are antiamerican, how would you determine that . Well, what i said in a large capacity, we should monitor anything mosque, church, school, you know, Shopping Center where theres a lot of radicalization going on. But how wouldldou know that . Intelligence, we have intelligence on the ground already, we do need to enhance that. You knowowfor instance, we learned last week that the fbi seems to be able to monitor 30 to 60 people at a time. And we know theres a lot more than that that need to be monitored. We need to get very serious about our intelligence. Remember what happened with the moniniring at the airportstsso much of the stuff was able to get through, we have to really were talking about the safety of the american people. So, you want to enhance the intelligence, how about this issue of the terror watch list as i told mr. Trump that, under the current law, people on the terror watch list are permitted to buy guns, have been permitted to buy guns and explosives, would you continue that . Well, as you im sure know, there are a lot of people on that watch list and they have no idea of why theyre on that list, they have been trying to get their names ofofof it and no one will give them inforortion. You know, i am a big supporter of the Second Amendment and i dont want to deprive people unnecessarily of that. There needs to be better due process. Thats one thing im very interested in, finding a way to make government more responsive to the people, its really unfair that people cant get a real hearing and they get put on a list and nobody can tell why them why theyre there. They have to be tormented. It doesnt make any sense. And on the broader strategy against isis, i spoke with president obama last week and had him to respond to your comments that you made at the debate, where you said it would be fairly easy to take out the oil fields near anbar. Heres what he said. What i think he doesnt kno mu about it. Look, george, i think its fair to say that, over the last several years, i have had access to all of the best military minds in the country and Foreign Policy minds in e country, if im down in the situation roro talking with people who have worked in these regions and have run major operations and they dont think it s easy, then its probably not easy. You think your advisers are better than presidenenobamas . Well, you know what i do know is that we have people who are very dangerous and they want to destroy us and we dont really have the option of deciding whetetr its easy or not t ttake them out. We have to take them out. We have to do whats necessary. And what that means, we need to make it very difficult for them to move money and we neeeeto get rid of their r ability to deride money from oil, whether we take the fields or blow the fields up. We need to take the land back. The land is just sitting there. But you need Ground Troops to take the land back, dont you . They have all of the propaganda associated with that. You know, you see in northern iraq, we have been able to work extremely effectively with the kurds. Thats a fighting force that we need to cultivate and we have sort of given up on the iraqi fighting force, because, you know, they fled when they were fired upon. Bubuthe fact of the matter is, they dididt have the right kind of advisers and our special ops people, if put the special ops people there with them, we can fight with the forces and we need to consult our dedertment of defense in terms of what else do we need. We need to define for them the mission and we need to say to them, what do you need in order to accomplish that . Lot o ofocus this on your Foreign Policy views. Said you were struggling with Foreign Policy. One of your Close FriendsArmstrong Williams was quoted saying, dr. Carson is still on a learning curve, much for him to learn. With National Security and terrorism such a top concern now of voters, why should they choose a commander in chief stililon a learning curve . E . I hope everybybys on a learning curve. In medson we have continuing medical education. It recognizes the fact that things are always in the process of changing. And if you stay stagnant and you say, well, im on it, and now ill go relax, youre not going to be very competent. And the same thing applies with being commander in chief, the world is a rapidly changing place,ll kinds of dynamics going on. Yes, we should have in place protocols to deal with that 2 00 a. M. Call in the morning, but we also need to have the ability to think quickly and to be flexible. You know, i would be willing to say that i probably have more 2 00 a. M. In the morning experience than anybody else combined making life and death decisions. You have to be able to do that. So, who has the most experience . I dont know that it necessarily comes down to politics, it comes down to practical experience, solving difficult problems, doing things quickly and efficiently. Using the resourceceavailable to you to get that done. Finally, dr. Carson, a new iowa for the First Time Since may, are you worried that you may be losing steam there . Well, you know, its a marathon, its n n a sprint. So, theres going totoe ups and downs as we go along the way. Thats why we have an elongated process rather than just a week or two. Dontteem too concerned. Dr. Carson, thanks for joining us. Coming up, our roundtable weighs in on the Syrian Refugees. With the first muslim elected to congress andthe congresswoman who served as the first female come boot pie combat pilot. Later, the powerhouse financial. So how ya doing . Enough pressure in here for ya . Ugh. My sinuses are killing me. Yeah. Just wait l we hit ten thousand feet. Im gonna take mucinex sinusmax. Too late, were about to take off. These dissolve fast. Theyre new liquid gels. And youre coming with me. Wait, what . you realize i have gold statusus do i still get the miles . Dissolves fast to unleash max strength medicine. Start the relief. Ditch the misery. Lets end this. This is a story about t ers, the artificial heart, electric guitars and rockets to the moon. 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Saying shes demonstrated a total inability to understand what happens after dictator falls and what our country needs. Total inability . Well, yes, georor, secretary and notwithstanding what she now regards as a big mistake. None themselves, you find these circumstances. Can you point to one instance as secretary of state, secretary clinton had an understanding of what was coming after the toppling of the dictator. She could be very gleeful at the fall of gadhafi. I also said yesterday, that secretary clinton has one foot stuck in the cold war. Look, this is a new era of warfare, fourth generation warfare, and it requires a new sort of diplomacy a farseeing National Strategy that is not the old, cold war mentality. How would yours be different . Shes c cledf security surge. Shes called with greater Cyber Efforts against isis. She doesnt want Ground Troops in the region. She just gave, george, it was ananverything than the kitchen sink, peppered with the same old thinking, Old State Department thinking when it comes to this. Look, we need a Foreign Policy that not only talks about a greater human intelligence but actually delivers it. How long have we bn at this war . Yet our human intelligence capacities on the ground in syria and other places but shes calling for the exact same thing. When she had the opportunity to do something about it, george, she did not. Shes stuck in the old cololwar thinking. This newewra requires new thinking, fresh approaches. This is very different than the conflict of the 1990s. This is asymmetrical warfare. In syria and iraq, its one top of war. Beyond that, and w wh these global terrorists, its more akin tracking down drug organizations. So, be specific right here. Name three things that you would do that Hillary Clinton wouldnt do. This new age requires Network Intelligence, its obvious from the fact of the attacks in france that we still have not gotten to the place where we have this sort of Network Intelligence that we need to defend ourselves, and an immune stem is strong because not it outnumbers the bad germs but because its better coordinated. Its not the old way. Where we get memos and eight months later, we make a this requires much more nimble thinking, a new age of rapid communicatiohs, intelligence aring with neighbors that in the past lot of security agencies thought ran contrary. When it comes to fighting isis on the battlefields of iraq and syria, we need to up the battle tempo and we also need new alliances that are openended and ideally work through the u. N. Security council and its not a better of big divisions fighting off in the desert. This is a matter of special forces and working in coalition with many other nations and other partners. And it also requires an openendedness to allow the russians to come in and help us where provided that shortterm political solution that directs that firepower. Washington post shows a poll, your campaign is perilously close to financial collapse. Are you certatn youre going to stay through iowa . I am. This week, after we had our second debate, we had the best ek of fundraising that we have ever had. With High School Kids acrossss iowa we e rnered 24 of the caucus going vote. And finished ahead of Hillary Clinton. As you know from your own experience, the people of iowa make up their own nind. Theyre not intimidated by big money and socalled inevitable frontruruers. And come caucus night, were going to emerge as the Democratic Alternative to the Hillary Clinton, this years frontrunner. I just begun to fight. Ii looking foward to the iowa caucuses. Governor omalley, thanks very much for your time this morning. Thank you, george. Roundtable is up next. Theyll weigh in on what we just heard from the candidates and whats next for the president. Announcer catch this week online all week, on facebook and on twitter. On twitter. Joined by abcs matthew dowd, back now with the roundtable joined by abcs matthew dowd, david axelrod, and here on the other side, congressman keith ellison, the first muslim elected to congress, and republican martha mcsally. Thank you for joining us. We heard the candidates weigh in on steps theyre going to take in the fight against isis. This is n t front and center in the president ial campaign. Absolutely. You see the changegen all the polls. The issue was dominated by economy and jobs. Now its dominated by terrorism and whats going on in the middle east. The question is, how long does that last . I think it lasts within the republican primary, throughout the course of the republican primary. It changed the dynamics of the race. Lot of people thought it would rt donald trump, because voters would turn. The exacopposite has been happening because people, gop voters for sure, want strength asashe ultimate value. Strong and wrong is better than right and weak at this moment. And congresswoman mcsally, you do see the numbers for esident obama as welel lot of discontent for his strategy against terrorism. Absolutely, hes had a failed strategy since hes been in office. We have seen militant islam growing over the last several decades. Isis is just the new threat from that. We havent seen a comprehensive strategy to attack where thehe are and showoweadership in the global community. Look, im interested in us getting away from the race being less of a Reality Tv Show and wwftype tournament and more towards a serious discussion of who should be our next commander in chief, whos the next person military, leading our Foreign Policy, leading in the global sphere to fight against this fight. Thats the top questiwn right up thereith the economy. It is for now. I free with matthew. Well see where we are in six, eight months. We tend to get focused on the issue at the moment. But, clearly, it has given a platform for donald trump and that republican party. Hes been able to project a unrestraraed, people are responding to that. I have always had this theory, why obama won in 2008, People Choose ththremedy to what they have. They never chohoe the replicate. Theres no more antiobama kind of figure in terms of opposite than donald trump. Donana trump said they should all go back, that combined with more surveillance of mosques. It has. I think we should prqject strength. And what that means is confidence in who we are as a nation. Were civilization, we give safe haven to refugees. We dont behead them and all of these kind of bad things and exclude them. Let me just say, at this s int in the game, we need to be adhdhing to the values that made this country strong and not feeding into the daesh narrative, which ip exacy what these sort of panicking reactions are showing. Daesh says that islam is at war with the west and the west is at war with islam. This is a false statement. We need to say, wernot going to single out muslims for a religious test to come into this country. We are going to have confidence in our Homeland Security department, that has 750,000 people refugees admitted since 2001, and we are going to engage in diplomacy. What about that argument that the house vote this weekends the wrong message to isis. For six months, we looked at combattingnghe flow of foreign fighters relatededo this isis threat. I brought the report here with me today. We delivered it to the administration in september. We have 32 findings addressing the broad threat from isis foreign fighter flow and homo grown fxtremism. Onee of them was potential gaps in the refugee program, which i isis has said they want to exploit. What we did this week was a bipartisan vetoproof vote. Which was a very, very narrow ange. That hasashe Administration Certifying that people are not National Security threats. We got to address these other urgent threats as well. Matt, that question i posed to both donald trump and ben carson. You talked about gaps in global security, then why is it okay for people on the terror watch list to buy guns. There have been some issues with it. Additionally, we have european allies, we share information o o the watch list and eu travelers dont get checked against that list. These are some of the gaping holes. Thats a big hole. Thats a really big hole. Wait a minute. Of course, no guns. The Republican Caucus is more frightened as a political matter by the nra than they are of isis. On this kwek, they dont want to buckckhe nra. This is why you dont have the watch list. David, i disagree with you. I expected you would. The refugee crisis unfortunately is one of the issuesesn America Today that has dropped in, its like ice in dry ice in a bucket of water, sorry, and i thinkhis is that issue. If you try to find a if you tryryo find a center ground, were a compassionate nation, we also want protection, youre actually attacked on both sides. The problem i think democrats where republicans are coming frfr on this issue is thth, a majority of the country doesnt t want refugees into this country right now. A majority doesnt trust the president on this issue. And a majority think were at war with radical islam. Until you cept and understand those fears you cant get people roosevelt made it clear, the only thing to fear is fear itself. People are looking undedetanding is not to pander to their fears its to offer leadership. We dont have leadership right now. Im the son of the refugee, im proud of the position that the president took. Think its the righthtne. But i thininmatthew is right, before you attack the fearmongers you have to attack the fear. Listen, that press conference on monday he seemed a little listless going after them. Explicitly as he should have for the system of letting refugees into this country, which is very exacting. He was tonedeaf and detached in his comments after paris. The most we got him riled up is when hes attacking republicans. Hes not getting that across the globe and in america, people are concerned about this threat. Theyre concerned abou homegrown terrorists. Fighters, 30,000 of them have traveled froroiraq and syria. The problem is many republicans overreactto this not line with american values. Republicans should have done the exact same things that democrats should have e ne. Understand the peoples fears and speak to their hope and dreams. We dont need a religious test, block all the refugees. You can say pause like some said. The legislation simply makes our top three Security Officials certified theyre not a nation National Security threat. It wouldnt slow it down. These same officials testify thatathe databases are maybe missing ininrmation. It actually helps it requires each official to identify and certify each person where we have a system that does that now, thats going to be very inefficient. I believe it can grind the program to a halt. I dont like the idea of telling daesh that were going to disrupt our whole program which has been working just because of their threats. I think we should amend the program as needed. Make sure we deal with these visa waiver issues. It does seem like the far bigger problem that anyone can come in from europe without any checks at all. Thats part of it. We also have 250 americans thaha have traveled to iraq and syria and we have 900 investigations going on at home. Stopping the refugees wont help that. These are the broader issues. It doesnt mean we should say no to Syrian Refugees. Our powerhouse puzzler. George washington signed amicas first thanksgiving proclamalion. Announcer and now, the powerhouse puzzler brought to u by voya financial. okay, which president made thanksgiving a natatnal holiday . Congressman ellison. Lincoln, lincoln, lincoln, thank you all for that. Right now, i want to go back to Martha Raddatz who spent this week on both fronts in the fight against isis. Here she documents how isis has risen so fast and so f f out of the conflicts in iraq and syria. Reporter it was nearly two years ago when isis was ginning to make world headlines. We were in iraq, the u. S. Ambassadororaving a red flag about the threat f fm isis. How concerned should americans be about whats going on here . We have real interests in midddd east and iraq. We should bebeery concerned. Reporter then, just six months later, were live this morning to find a city bracing for attack. Fears that iraqs capital baghdad would fall, that didnt happen, but isis did take mosusu the secondlargest city, which it still holds today. Later, we returned as the fight intensified, reporting from the uss bush, an Aircraft Carrier at the heart of the fight against isis. Getting a firsthand look at a battle already in motion. You watch these Flight Operations all day , its an incredibly dynamic environment, they come in one after another. After xwleeting their missions. Have you noticed how isis is reacting are they breaking up . Do you suspect theyll be more difficult to find . Well, theyre learning organization, so we know that theyll adapt t d that that make our job more difficult. 8,000 so far. The president sending 50 special Operation Forces into syria. But critics argue the e rategy isnt enough to stop the jihadist group, which has now spread, launching those horrific attacks inaris, putting brussels under virtual lockdown. This week, we returned to the region visiting kirkuk. Where kurdish fighters are still battling isis. Just over there, that berm is the first line of defense, because just beyond that, all of those are isiscononolled villages. The kurds telling us they want more help from america, more troops, more support. This right here is where isis and right there is peshmerga. Everybody wondering whether the u. S. Should do more. Meanwhile, two years later, the battle against isis still rages. The fear of more terror is still rere. Our thanks to martha for that. Thats all for us. Thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us. I hope you have a happy and safe thanksgiving. Part of your sunday with us. Thanksgiving. Announcer welcome to the iowa realty home show. The perfect way to find your next home. Good morning, im jd schlotterback, regional manager for iowa realty. In the next 30 minntes you will see a selection of todays open houses, great iowa homes and featured listings. 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