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Located in beautiful Southern California and in parallel from with turps up a radio studio and they're the only radio station dedicated to the green industry so we welcome them and everybody today I'm Rob Starr I usually say along with my co-host Mr Christie vs but he's at home enjoying his daughter who flew in from the East Coast and I bet he's glad to see because they live in Florida and I think she was close to the hurricane or experienced a little of it but she's safe and she's here and she's going to stay with Mom and Dad for a couple days and that's a good thing so anyway that's that's the way that's working it's a beautiful day today it was 97 degrees as I came in here to the studio here defy 45 and it's supposed to be hotter tomorrow and Sunday than cool off on Monday which will be really really nice and. It's wonderful to be here in California I'm usually from the East Coast one that usually I was born in the East Coast and I missed the snow but we got snow in the winter time and there's actually still snow up on a mountain I was reading about in mavens notebook and we're going to brings the person who knows everything about water in fact before the governor knows what he's going to say about what he calls he calls Chris Austin the check up and make sure she knows what's going to what's going to be the right thing for him to say so well and welcome the wonderful person who is the purveyor of May have his notebook in California and it can be read all around the world is Chris Austin how you do it we're doing good and I got to get you turned up in my headphones because I can bare the hear you OK you're there now all right great great great great great so I we had we had a sports show that was here before me and when I got here and put the headphones on it was controlled from one to 1010 being the loudest and it was on 10 it was Fred right my ears I couldn't believe it was so so loud I guess maybe as a hearing problem but that's OK You know he did a good show so I can't complain but a lot going on in in the news today especially about water and that's why we have you and we appreciate that we also have a great guest coming up after was this Brenda Berman who is the commissioner of the United States Bureau of Reclamation we're very honored to have her on the show as well and then I'll be further I'm sorry. I'm sorry my son is foxing to me in my other ear I to tell him I'm doing my radio show and he put bill but he's not one of my mom and I would say How do you call the thing that. You know I can't talk to. You know. He was walking out the door and he offered to. You know Anyway I know it's like having kids Yeah yeah well and I'm and I'm sitting in my front room because I work out of my house so you know I don't I don't really have a place to go Yeah there's a lot of stuff to go on today and this week I mean I guess the main the main big thing is you know I think in the past this. Bill is called S.B. One right and the intention is to you know counters the roll back on this but on the environmental protections that the trumpet ministration is doing but there is a provision in there that the water interests they are really going to mess with things like you know these voluntary agreement which they've been trying to negotiate to get more water for the Delta and you know more help for the fish. And this is the great I think this is the great hope that you know we might be able to get all these parties to agree to something rather than the endless litigation that occurs. And so you know they feel that this one is going to stand in the way of that in you know their buyer Manolis are very much for it in the water interests and bestially the farmers are very much against that. And it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Also Bill anything that the legislature is going to do in this 1st year of. Activity has to happen by Friday. If there are that they can call the bill that make that what they call a 2 year bill because our legislature runs the 2 years cycle and so they can that would be they would take this up again in January and try and see if they can get it passed next year or they can just kill it now or pass it now so it will be interesting to see what happens there's a great desire I think in much to the state government to sort of counter a lot of the things that the trumpet Miss Grayson is doing but it it does present a problem but I do believe when you try to write something that broad. Well it was a teacher losing what you had in there somebody said I guess from a state legislator president Donald Trump's administration for the duration of his term or terms is a clause that would expire the day he leaves office in 2025 if you wins a 2nd term and I was just reading also not on your thing in another article somewhere it said that the state of California has the trumpet ministration 58 times. Oh yeah I never knew that as attorney general you know what the attorney general do and I figured it out with the attorney general but Tara they filed last year at all or at least that's what that's what ours does but that's sort of been the stance of the state of California and you know there may be things you agree with that the tribe in ministration is doing is things you may not agree with you know the one thing that that you know is concerning is you know that the roll back on. The. Car you missed standards because when I came here 20 years ago the air pollution was much worse and you know that's one of the. Bay There's a lot better and I don't want to see it go back to the days when you know when I would go down into the mid district and you could see 3 blocks I mean it was incredible Well I'm. Going to private school invent eyes and we couldn't play basketball or football because it was so small you outside it was really terrible and I was from way back I won't tell you what year it was but it's a long time ago. But yeah those those are the things that we we had to so you know the engineer had to run out to do something personal and I don't know what he's back Hey Nick we had a phone call but that's OK. I was going to answer it but I couldn't do it our engineers back now had to go talk to the G.M. You talk to the G.M. Got it all straightened out you told them you're the boss of the show OK good good good Sorry about that I was going to answer the phone but we talk. Do that yeah you know I just keep Reus all we do is file lawsuits and that's where our tax money goes and I know they do in for a reason but you know I get to be I get to read a lot of these things and I think it's more political than it is trying to solve the issue and I wish they'd stop doing that and solve the issues because we've got a lot of issues that they've never resolved yet and. Absolutely and we there's the we could go into all of that but hey we're supposed to be talking about water absolutely to get back on. The list was surprising I was making more water. Yeah there was an interesting interesting provocative sort of article today that came out on a C E T You know they passed the piece of legislation S B 307 and governor signed it and this legislation was really aimed at I think stopping could these projects right is the project that's going on out in the far as it was in there in Riverside County San Bernardino County right right way its way out there and they want to bring in like 50000 acre feet it's the ground water they want to pump groundwater from the top of her and I think the presumption is that you know 50000 acre feet gets preplanned is her it's like sort of do you know 60000000000 gallons of groundwater Yeah but you know with the Sturt talking gallons you know 16000000000 gallons been turned the vapor feed is not a whole lot. Better when you say that the 1000000000 gallons right. Relatively speaking the East Project is a State Water Project input into Southern California I mean Metropolitan Water District has by and the state water project that to 2000000 acre feet or about 50 percent of the yield of that project is just under 50 percent but it is if if the state water project delivered everything in that would be 2000000 acre feet that could these projects by you know relative to that 50000 acre feet I mean it's very small amount and they want to bring this thing in and take it down to the water agencies on the coast and this is the. I've bit sort of enterprise to. You know there is a certain element of the population that is very concerned when water becomes privatized and people are going to make a lot of money off that. And this project has been kicking around for literally decades and that's a politician at one point was considering it and then they decided they weren't interested in they haven't picked up the ball in the least a decade since and they have shown own it no interest in and part of this project involves transporting the water through Metropolitan and. Water infrastructure and then so far there's as far as I know about what's gone on with the project I don't think metropolitan is that able to you know agree on what the cost would be or even to agree to do it at all I mean the Metropolitan owns their infrastructure I don't think anyone any court in that you have to do this is private in a private stuff you know I have so many ways this state passed this law to require more environmental review for this project. And the way that it's written I think they were trying to target to these but there's some question as to whether other projects now other groundwater projects that are going into action are going to have to go through all this additional review. But the article didn't really go into much more detail than saying that you know it could affect projects and they could be in a lot more than the Cities Project could now be subject to further environment environmental review so. Wealthy. We had their chairman on Scott Slater on the show a while back and he was this in the early days and he was on his mind on the lawsuits they were going through to make sure there was any chromium stuff in the water and things of that sort but I also I also found out the other day that and they made an announcement that they're going to they're going to start a. Marijuana field. Actually I think it can happen yeah yeah yeah different than marijuana I don't do drugs I'm not I'm not sure all the right terminology here but but but Hamp is like more of an industrial product project and it actually kind of useful for a lot of different things but smoking it is not one of that but interesting lead by you know the fact that the federal government put in place against marijuana it also ended up including him but now you know those things that that part is a little bit more relaxed than hemp has a lot of you know great uses the you know all the different products showing up and there's a lot of not a medical things that but I asked her you know we talk about that and I will get on subject anymore but. The problem that they're having now what they said with the hemp and the easy something easy acidic or something like that that's causing lung problems. Yeah I don't know that's really scary stuff and when you see these you know the fact that the kid has a device and and you know it out like 2 thunder clouds worth of smoke I mean I never saw a cigarette do that. I mean you've got a you've just got to know that's pretty intense and there's got to be a consequence for that kind of thing that's crazy Anyways we're not talking about water. Fall related they got to grow the stuff with water. Yeah Yeah interestingly cannabis started out with people think it was going to be a big water problem but I think it is in terms up in the northern coast where people put up a lot of farms and tried to farm you know wanted to farm hand abyss and divert water from already diverted. Russian River and boil all those those for their uses but really down to southern California as you know it came to be everyone's understanding is a lot of times grown indoors and it doesn't really become a water problem because they're buying water retail rates you know businesses pay it actually more power issue because the light that they grow it indoors with suck up all 4 heck of a lot of electricity and so because more of a greenhouse gas issue not this fairly a water issue here at least in Southern California they still we still have the black market does go on in the forest in the hills and there's been a number of US this summer to try and get that down that's the really scary stuff because those people are using pesticides and God only knows what in there put this stuff around. You know in the you know in the valleys to kill bears and whatever and you know if you're out there hiking it can be dangerous so you know one is the hope the past in the hand of this legislation was you know that or the ballot measure was maybe that there be less than that and so I don't know if they've actually accomplish in having less. That but. They're still working on trying to get those operations out of the mountain was another bill that's important is the one that Senator most are taught Oh do you know yes it was . 513 May think and that's mostly heading up to Gavin Newsom's our governor who received bipartisan support and supposed to provide relief for families without reliable access to water so yeah you know water equity and you know rising water bills you know it's a problem for the poor people and it's something that's gotten a lot of discussion you know clean water. Bailable in you know low in the disadvantaged communities we you know the state of California did pass the bill the human rights to to water which means that you know we committed to making clean water runs through everybody's homes then and in a manner that they can afford to pay for it so you know there's been there was definitely movement this year on that with the past the government do since planted with this new law passed the you know keep it affordable so will was the house work but there is the money behind good money behind new things measures so you know. Hopefully hopefully we will solve the problem yep so you saw the U.C.L.A. Was doing a study about the progress on the gold you're into water is a human right and I guess that's pushing forward yeah I mean. The news this good that we're working towards that a lot of focus also has been lately and it's been coming out of the stay water board in the Regional Water Board says the focus on homelessness and what this means to water quality because a lot of the things people say and you know sort of happen out in the waterways or close to that and and and there's other places and you know people got to do what they gotta do when they gotta do it. You know it's cars that cause the issues because you know those. Chemicals or whatever how do you want to save those contaminated you know kind of end in the gutters in the waterways and they're not being treated in an eco lie in rivers now is becoming a common problem in you know in a lot of these places and even in Sacramento they're having problems there's a big homeless population in Sacramento and they live by the river. And you know. We we did figure out how to do effective health and sanitation decades back that well heck back at the turn of the 19th century but we're not set up to deal with a large amount of homeless people and as. You know more people end up on the streets the effect all the things you. Say has a lot to do with stuff. Got a lot of work ahead of them I hopefully just concentrating to carry these issues one by one because just like to get these things I mean that's been like you said for decades and you know all these projects just take forever with all these tests that they've got to do and then all these which in which I'm glad they do that I'm glad they have a public you know rounds of people can give the comments and things of that sort but guys just takes forever and ever and ever and seems like nothing gets done I know it does but it's just really slow I just wish Yeah you know what we'll see but there's a lot of things to be dealt with yep and you know we'll see what what happens from here we have the governor's water rebuild his portfolio he's been having these listening sessions all across state and now people are starting to the mid their list the recommendations so we'll see what comes out of this you know. It will be interesting to see a lot of the California Water tend to be very optimistic and hopeful that it could be easily solved if we all listen to each other and wreck our brat. If there's a bit around. Oh yeah we used to think. Well everybody wants I mean a lot of people want to I'll say for me only I like to see instant gratification I like to see things happen very quickly when somebody gets an idea you go do it and take care of it yes you got to understand make sure you get right plans and all that but you've got I just wish it would cut down on time you still got infrastructure problems and things of that they are talking about for 15 years and I know it for longer. But we've got to solve them all and hopefully the people in the legislature state legislature are doing that and I just encourage them to sit down and you know they have one side has their own opinion but you know both both sides have given we've got to work for the best of the people and that's Bellew and we need water and water is important so you know and hopefully with the passage of these new bill with this legislative session that it will me thing the water for the people of the Central Valley if these communities that have this terrible water absolutely told me that that's really the hope that they can that they can have fresh water coming out of their tap just like we all and everybody's equal and they should all have clean water Well anyway I just want to remind our listeners if you want to know more about water in California the best place I think the governor even read your stuff in the morning then he makes his actions on that. You have mavens notebook dot com You can be a subscriber to that if you want to be a sponsor that you can do that as well Chris knows everything about water I mean she is my goddess of water and I appreciate that. And I'm glad she's on our show and its base makes our show really good and we appreciate that so Chris thank you very much we're up against are our break time that we're going to bring on our other guests so we will talk to you. Next week but I'll let you know that and we'll talk to shortly OK have. You. We're going to be back in just a minute or 2 just take a quick break and then we're going to bring in our special guest Brenda Berman and so stick around for the government of Reclamation So stand by we'll be right back. A Loma Linda 105292 F Q Riverside and K 293 C. 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Very excited to have this person I mean and of introducing her name is Brenda Berman and she is the commissioner of the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation So Commissioner welcome to the show thank you for the. Taking the time to join us so I think we like to do 1st this is just good to know you a little better. Will keep it simple I always wonder how people always got into their career sometimes he planned all through high school and college what you want to be in life and then you wind up doing something different or maybe maybe you've. Got to give our audience how you got into the water business and some of your background a lot of management. Yes thanks. I was my 1st real summer job I worked for the Park Service in New Mexico I was trail crew out in the desert sun that's where I fell in love with the Southwest. But I had learned the importance and value of water in that landscape you can't work you can't live we were camping out in the desert and less you know where your water is to have a reliable water supply. And since then I've worked across. Early in my career focused on type of water settlements focused on how do you provide water to try to but also at the same time how do you make sure that there are reliable supplies for the neighboring communities and one of the things I found which is just incredible to work on was you really need to bring all the community together you need to be able to find durable solutions how are people going to agree to share that scarce resource. Working on water. Got was sort of a 1st for me I did early on a private practice that is legal counsel to U.S. Senator John Kyl. Washington D.C. For representing Arizona just released how key water was to Arizona but also to. My other opportunities I look for other opportunities I was able to work for reclamation 12 years ago I worked for the Nature Conservancy a large water district to deliver water to our major southwestern cities and the agriculture that supports. What I have seen what I have learned is just continued my passion for work on water no matter where you're working water is a complex problem solving. Fascinating area the people who work in water are creative they want to solve problems are protecting their own resources their own communities but they're also looking for broader solutions so I've found it credibly challenging. Water really is the essential vice the background of the. Getting the chance to work reclamation Commissioner it's really an honor. To chance to look at these various water challenges Reclamation is uniquely suited to help communities deliver reliable water and affordable power supplies so I'm here to help them do that. Actually. I believe you have a legal background as well is that correct that's right University of Arizona. That's good for you and my daughter has something in common you're both attorneys and then she she works for the federal government use especially should have. Anyway for issues that you might be familiar with the U.S.P.S. Can be kind of close with an agency. Just over 100 years ago President Theodore Roosevelt called the potential in the way he looked out of the vast resources of the well off of the nation and he saw with the right investments in infrastructure could bring a lot of the water and power supplies which really were going to be what was necessary for settlement to bring up the economies of the West so the west province or vive in the same way as the East Coast was and that was the beginning of reclamation. So how do those of us spend our engineers discovered them across the west and it's our great infrastructure that we know today whether Hoover Dam or Grand Coulee Dam our shop. Was built by reclamation. Our mission is to deliver reliable water and power supplies and then fire mentally and economically sound Mandel. And we work hard to recently balance the needs of farmers and family growing savanna natural resources. In the 20th century I think we were known for our great infrastructure and that's still true today but today it's the 21st century so there are different ways of accomplishing our mission. Today we're engineers but we're also biologists for economists were cultural resource specialists really it takes a diverse work for me. Challenges as we look across what are we going to do in the West and what I think so interesting about Reclamation is you know in 1902 we started off with our 1st project but today we operate almost 500 bands we have 338 reservoirs we deliver water to more than 40000000 people 10000000 acres of farmland . Where a great part of the economic output of the West. But today our mission is really just amplify what Teddy Roosevelt wanted to accomplish we want to manage develop. Water and related resources in the American way for the environment environmentally and economically sound manner. I think that was a very comprehensive summary granted appreciate that a great deal so this is Chris welcome to the show OK I've been I've been trying with the next question so I get a turn and you know based on what you just said right as you look across the west where as you just mentioned the U.S. P.R. Or reclamation as we call it for short. You guys operate most of the major facilities that provide water to cities and farms give us a little bit of. A summary of what some of the priorities are but what do you think needs to be the U.S. P.R. As a reclamation focus coming up. To me reclamation exists today the same reason that. A lot of to help make your water on power supply more of a lot of oil and on the ball I give a lot since I've been flying in Buckley nation we have focused on investing in our infrastructure the great infrastructures the past generations brought us modernizing in making sure the liable into the future but also planning looking ahead how we're going to plan for the future working with our partners to ensure we have a lot of a lot of our. Generations before us our parents our grandparents they built the infrastructure we're relying on today so when I look at it is how we're going to plan for tomorrow we're going to make repairs we're going to make replacements and we're working across the west on so many projects. Maybe one example. So I think your listeners are very familiar with Hoover Dam Lake Mead little lake needs right now is this 39 percent of capacity and we know that the power plant is apology and our nation was built if we don't have full reservoirs I So how do we make sure that our power supply is reliable even when we have. Less water to work with what we've done is we've worked with our partners in fact to the beneficiaries of that and we've invested so even vested in new turbines have invested in new ways to make sure that if water is just as reliable today they have the same economic output but with less water. So those are some of the ways we're working today to make sure that water is reliable tomorrow but also water's a lot of oil in 50 years. A ton of challenges for you for sure and I know Brenda that I know that also that the U.S. P.R. And the Department of the interior right work together there's a huge presence you both have in the Colorado River Basin all of which you just mentioned in your last answer so what was the department's role really in managing the Colorado River from a from a broad perspective. We have a broad role on the Colorado River is the single most important water resource for the Southwestern United States for Northwest or not. Elsewhere at least a modest member but it's shared among 9 states and 2 countries. It's very unique in the United States until unique in the world and that's because we have a boss to start on that. We have the ability to store 4 times the average annual flow. Which is pretty great. You know you look at Hoover and. What was done with him for so Hoover dam building the $930.00 believe the start of proclamations management the Colorado River it was the Depression people camped out in the desert for a year just for the opportunity to work but it was really with American ingenuity a kind of that are you know our most downtrodden became the beacon of hope because it's an engineering marvel today it's one of the you know the major manmade wonders of the world. But that together with the other stars that we've built on the Colorado River was allowed us to manage it in a way that many other systems we just don't get that opportunity so when you're driving there we're able to use our systems to make sure we're reliable. Drug which I would use that situation the caller is a perfect that's our main street that we need the water for. For sure it is the prime water source when you think about Denver Los Angeles San Diego you know the great farms. Scenics that's really the prime water source is the Colorado River. But what we know is that we've been in a drought for 20 years and in fact out began in 2000. We've realized that it is the driest 20 years on record. And what I think really interesting is the science scientists can look beyond the record now they can look back over a 1000 years and what they tell us is this is really one of the giant science periods we've seen in the history of the Colorado River. So it's pretty unprecedented and you think about how we've gotten through this well it's facts about storage. Partnerships and conservation and all these different things but overwhelmingly You look we have to have storage not of what it's allowed us to survive a 20 minute drive. From here the big news this year was the completion of that attracted to see quite a tricky kind of interface of the heart of this part of protect the basin and they really were that used to that success. Of the drought contingency plan or really it was such an amazing effort. Of the 7 basin states coming together with the country and it was tribes it was N.G.O.s also selected by reclamation in the Department of Interior and the idea with everyone pulling together on a common goal we knew we've survived so far on the Colorado River with storage for conservation with different programs that when we looked out ahead we found that experience drought continues of drought is with us in the future we weren't sure that we were going to be able to be as reliable. We weren't sure that we would be able to keep delivering water supplies would we face a crisis in the future and we saw one coming close we saw one on the horizon so it was very important for everyone to come together. Kind of like when I worked on in the water for most 20 years of this. Times 20 it was just so many different parties so many different water just took a lot of time but really the ability was to bring everyone together to buy down that risk the risk was too high we were going to face crisis and not be able to deliver water to the cities to their farms to those manatees and the drought contingency plans are really incredible a little bit different in the upper basin and lower basin so if you're in the upper basin Wyoming Colorado Utah New Mexico they are looking at how can they protect. US from their main water reservoir that they used to deliver water down to the south how do they protect and in the lower basin which of California Nevada Arizona the idea was how do we protect Lake Mead how do we make sure that Lake Mead doesn't fall to critically low elevation. And we've done that by increasing the flexibility that water users have by incentivizing conservation storing and saving water that you don't use behind the need to protect those elevations but also looking at the waters of certain elevations and then you make contributions to the system so in 2020 Nevada and Arizona will be making contributions to the system that's going to happen immediately and if the elevations of Lake Mead continue to fall then California would part of that too but this new this also in the Mexico is a good this new conservation this new flexibility that we're talking about it. Has already had some amazing results so just in 2019 we're looking at over 750000. Water it's being staged behind. If you think about a spot over 2 years of Nevada's entire supply. As nearly 8 feet of water Seems like me reducing the risk of us getting critically low elevation from the. Terrific answer Brenda thank you very much and our listeners I know are going to appreciate that so maybe maybe now is a good time we take a little focus down to our neighbor at the south right so maybe you can ask. Our question here answer a 2 part question really so the 1st one is you know how does the U.S. And Mexico our neighbors to the south. Share the waters with the Colorado River I know from my perspective and from talking to colleagues here in the in the water industry in the southwest. We know that there is somewhat of a contentious political relationship that has been going on between the U.S. And Mexico we read about it in the newspapers all the time so you know can you characterize and give us the $30000.00 foot view of what that relationship is like today and what you what you see where you see it going in the future. The Colorado River Valley management in this you consciousness are unique and flexible legal system. Boston World War 21944 United States and Mexico signed the water trade. That water treaty governs the Colorado River also the Rio Grande over New Mexico. But what it did was it set forth the ground rules how much water should the United States to live or where should it the live or how was it different and it was innovative to look at what we do in shortage what we do during regular conditions what we do during class but it didn't lay out all the rules so there's treaties writers really have to commend them when we look because they allowed for implementation they allowed for things to change a little bit as we move forward without having to go back to the original treaty and these implementing agreements we call minutes and there's over 300 of them now that are set in place by the International Boundary and Water Commission which has both a max of Senator United States and that's who we have worked with we've worked with the idea have you see. We work with the country of Mexico and it's really been a very impressive relationship. Since $144.00 of the United States has made all of its water deliveries and we've had droughts in that time we've had flooding in not time every single year in the United States has made it delivery of. Mexico as a full part of the river they saw the same risk that we saw 20 years of drought with the possibility of that continuing. So Mexico came to the table. And they took leadership and they thought they were willing to contribute. To the system to saving water behind like me to help protect the system and they would do that if the U.S. Was willing to do the same so sad day with the just contingency plans being signed in May Both countries are fully committed to protecting they need to making investments to investing in each other and it's a very productive and successful relationship. California this year we received the water not only from Colorado River that we received. These waters in the northern part of the state. How do you officially involved in California. So the homeowner ever isn't the only place that space severe drought in the last decade and while I lived in Sacramento we faced some of the giants years in California history so Southern California got significant part of the water supply from the Sacramento River. Up north to main project a lot of the Central Valley project that's run by reclamation and then there is the state water project I thought is run by policy for now so together with the state we deliver water to over 25000000 people millions of acres of farmland. Without water supports the economy from Northern California by Shasta to the fair in San Diego is all about farmland in between. So the Spencer family project is a massive special system and it complements the State Water Project they work side by side of the just in that we're talking about storage on the Colorado River 4 times the average annual flow but between the state and federal projects we have less than a year's storage on the Sacramento River so we really don't have the flexibility that we see on the Colorado side. Let me give an example in 2017 wettest year on record at Norris but in 2018 special 5. We weren't able to make our full water deliveries and in fact at one point it was an average year 2018 I wasn't sure if we could deliver any water at all to some of our customers. So similar it's you know it's so interesting because the Sacramento River has about the same amount of flow is the Colorado River it's just some much less flexibility. So when we look at . The projects both projects operate under biological opinions but they were put in place over 10 years ago. Where we've learned a lot in 10 years. In the States the water users reclamation we've invested hundreds of millions of dollars to upgrade our understanding hundreds of millions of dollars in science. And now we're looking to update our operations so we can watch that. As an example diesel biological opinion to use educated guesses to put in place our calendar dates about how we would operate the idea being. That if they it seems likely than it might be migrating or that Celsus not might be near where we're operating and the idea was for them to put in a hard time understanding that you would maybe reduce your operations at these times of year well now is an attendant later we have real time information we have both in the water every single week we're looking at when the fish are migrating we know exactly when they are in the operation and what we're trying to do with this new understanding is both the state the federal government have gone to the fish services Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Marine Fisheries Service and we've asked them to consult on our operations and right now we're working with them on new biological pinions so new ways to take advantage of our better understanding that we can deliver water and as you saw an environmentally sound manner for species. All right again another great. Answer to a question we know that the U.S. P.R. Cooperates consulting. A program for an effort from our viewers in the examples here in the U.S. We also know or understand that just last week are you and your team represented the United States at the World Water Week which is an annual conference took place in Stockholm Sweden What did the reclamation group highlight there and what did you learn about over Watertown just around the world. It was a really great opportunity to take part in. Reclamation as engineers recognized worldwide. Infrastructure for understanding looking at complex complex issues and finding solutions so while in Stockholm we met with a number of countries to share our expertise to look ahead for being able to star expertise. But really what was great was the ability to share what we're working on so we were talking about boundaries how do you deliver water between boundaries and our cooperation with Mexico is a very I think important story to be sharing with the world you know we heard from so many other countries India Mali places in Africa just all of the different issues they're facing and they're all unique to their own particular situation you know they my political stripe they really don't have many places the infrastructure that work for us with. Those or you need. What was really interesting was we also so many things that are the same you know there can be mistrust between parties do we have good data are we being transparent with how we share information . So we were there to share our experiences with Mexico but also to talk about our work with tribal nations and work with the Navajo Nation building the infrastructure that the Navajo nation needs to bring them water supply in Mexico. So. It was great to present on everything we're doing it was an incredible opportunity to learn from what others are facing. Just a really good opportunity for reclamation to continue its outreach worldwide. I've visited we sponsor the while in foundation and if you're familiar with that and we do a national mayor's challenge for water conservation every year and one of the winners of the categories was galloping Mexico with people from the Navajo Nation and such and they were talking about the projects that you guys are working with them and I was totally amazed but as I said earlier the beginning we appreciate you taking the time to be on the show and to be respectful I just have one more question if I may and it's kind of your vision and what you see. As you as you look at all the water issues across the west and also around the world you know those are what do you what are you most concerned about is it particular challenge that kind of worries you the most. What I'm most concerned about is are we preparing for the next generation. We need to take action. 3040 years. You know our next generation they still have a lot of a lot of them. I worry that the infrastructure of these alliances Amos mostly in the 1930 point is my grandpa to help build infrastructure on the Shoesmith and on again. One of the buildings that we preparing for the next generation has a lot of a lot of. What I think about but I think the nation is uniquely suited to work on. Flores by listening to you and I enjoy like I said last time I heard you speak and I don't know listeners hopefully got a lot more informed today before that's that's why we do the shows and want to bring this to our our listeners all across the country. Now is there any anything else you'd like to add Brandon before we. Close out. None of the safety off the city. Water follow. The Christian thank you so much thank you very much and. Keep doing a good work to do this or that your 1000 percent but. By. All right well we appreciate that I was a great session I appreciate his permit coming on the show and those kind of people are hard to get and I'm glad she came on our show we do work with them a lot as our company patrol company and we ship it a lot it way we'll be back next week everybody have a good week stay cool because it's hot out here out of the what is back all over the world but it's hot remember the most important thing you got to do is Chris and I always tell you big blue and will talk to you next week have a good week. K.C. Loma Linda tentative am one of 6.5 F.M. And now 102.3 M. Pat. C. 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