To the jihad not reveal hanging out with you the Sefton whom we wanted to was weighing in on the big story that has taken place actually the 2 big stories one is kind of been buried but of course we're talking about the situation with former n.f.l. Quarterback and activists Collin Kappa Nick and what took place over the weekend when he was offered a tryout with the n.f.l. And he turned to down in the controversy surrounding it. We also want to maybe. Tied in to the stance taken by Bill Russell former n.b.a. Star in joining us on the phone line somebody who can definitely break it down each time Thomas. Who's the co-host of the radio show the collision which is heard on many of the stations and we heard on so it's on Welcome to the show and how you doing. Oh I'm doing well I can complain you know a lot going on right now. A lot is because the lot is in conversation and a lot of interesting takes from people who I wouldn't have a man imagine have the take that there have been let's start off with calling Let's start off with Collin Kappa Nick and let's talk you know for people who don't know let's give them a rundown of what happened and why this is newsworthy and significant. Ok well after being white ball for past 3 years the n.f.l. Called call it cap and they got the blue 'd I believe on Thursday and said that we want you to have a workout on Saturday you know and then they said Ok. You know you have to respond immediately so we thought Ok great but if people are like Ok wait a minute now. Typically you have the workouts on Tuesday because Saturday is usually reserved for most of the scouts are watching college games you know they're there scouting for the for the next crew from college and then most of the n.f.l. Coaches are preparing for the upcoming games on Sunday and if not Sunday then Monday you're on I mean so between Anabel they're playing on you know Sunday or Monday Monday mostly So that's why they will typically have their decisions and try outs and work out on Saturday so they said so why are we doing on Saturday here why we. Have it and a position with basically that's what we're going to do it we're going to keep it they're taking the lead so you know they they they they went with it and so are you planning on you know going there everything that a day and then. He gets there and then they they pull a little bit of the you know the surprises so now they are well there's no media that's going to be allowed you know is going to be closed and you know with the n.f.l. And will things you the workout tapes that will stay in the workout to everybody who's not here so everybody else can see we're going to keep everything close and he said well that's not right you know what of it what why would you keep everything why would you not what the media there and the media were all lined up there ready to come in so you know it's interesting because it's like I hear a lot of people right now criticizing him on that and saying well you can't dictate how a you know an employer you're comes to if you're if you're an employee you don't I mean you can't go in there making demands and dictates like Ok I hear you in a regular situation that's true this is a situation where organization has like called an athlete for 3 years so you're telling me they you expect this person and Kaplan takes to a trust the same organization that has white balled you know that he's had a to lose and Case Against that has kept him out of the league for 3 straight years you're telling me you inspect him to just trust that they'll do everything the right way well he did the the other thing too that is the n.f.l. Made it public you know this story said Jay z. Helped get this so they put out the word that he was going to have a tryout so you know your media I'm media your former athlete of course you want to go this is what you've been talking about so now you can go right now you can go and then they said that the n.f.l. Said that Nike would be allowed to go but the Nike just put out a release and said nobody ever contacted them and to take that part of. Their press release out because they knew nothing about it. So in other words somebody is not telling the truth right. That's what it is and then so that's not the least of that so then just hours before the workout. Capital One asked to sign this unusual waiver that would free the league from any liability for employment claims now there's some discrepancy and there's and this is all public knowledge is all stuff that you can look up and they'll tell you the specifics of it I'm asking all pols different parts of the article that kind of laid everything out about the waiver and so you get lost in kind of the legal jargon but they wanted to put all the legalities and it so people could see exactly in the mid broke about. But the thing about it is Catherine and his team offer to sign the regular standard waiver you know what I mean and they they said well we want a special waiver and the wait and you'll see the way that the wording is they can put as a lawyer you should have many questions from having your client sign a waiver like this if they're in cabinet position I'm not even a lawyer and I would have many questions after seeing the language of it because it leaves us so broad and you can no longer have a collusion case in the future based on what So it protects the n.f.l. From any future litigation. So active again though so the way this works out is you know when I and I looked at those papers because as you said they're out there and they have been a number of lawyers that have broken it down the way this works is that in the usual waiver you sign a release that basically says if you get hurt you can sue the leak and as understandable I mean we we all do that when we go on when we go on amusement rides right that's not unusual thing but this other one put. And that the n.f.l. Would have no liability and that he would not be allowed to sue for any collusion claims So in other words if Collin was to do this work out. And he went to the facility that you are not recording with an independent media were in Representatives was there and they came out and said Collin stinks and we're not hiring him. And that was the exact opposite that he actually did well and that they just weren't going to hire him because they were in collusion they were basically saying when you signed a waiver to said that you can't really hold us it is collusion client so that's really what that was about and no other trying out this is ever happened before except now. Right exactly and that's the issue you know to me because you know so when people are saying that why is he dictating or tipping to dictate the to his employer they have to put it into full context what happened and that's my issue with Stephen a Smith you know I mean that that brings us to Stephen a Smith because he went on this rant saying that that cabinet was to be a martyr and is not interested in playing football and these are just set up and just play and all the different stuff and I'm like bro you got to take into consideration the entire scope not them properly present everything and you have the you have the you're the highest paid. Employee in history you are the need and so when I think takes like this I gotta add I gotta wonder is that the reason why you became the highest paid. Employee ever you know what I mean what what is the difference between you and say a Jamelle hill or Christmas art or a Michael Smith who is deemed to controversy you know what is the difference you know the and I'm not and that's not because Stephen Smith is definitely talented he's super talented he is good at what he does he's able to passionately yell in the camera and get his take on every break down and it's entertainment and he draws eyes so I get it but my issue is why are these certain takes typical of coming from you and that's not that's my issue with the whole thing and that people look at if you look at it objectively right because you know people can have different interpretations but you're not even including the other side not even clean clued in all of the facts you're just going on the. Grandstand of saying you know what I mean you're you're repeating what Fox News would say when trying to find solutions and they're covering this this is a Fox News talking point and they would quote Stephen a Smith So you as a black man you gotta check yourself and Fox News is calling you to make their point let's go back to this talking to. Radio host and also from athlete and activists the time Thomas about the Collin Kappa Nick situation. We stopped where he signed a waiver and what he basically did was he held the tryout or he put together a tryout at another facility which I heard was on the way to the airport and all the media showed up but the other only 8 of the n.f.l. Scouts showed up and. You know from all accounts and then it was they played live stream to so everybody got to see it. Does seem like he was. You know it seemed like he didn't miss a step you know he in fact some of them said he had an elite arm. And that's what he wanted to so you want to so transparency you don't want to keep it behind closed doors so to put. You know in the n.f.l. Hand to be able to interpret what you know because so what would happen after his workout the n.f.l. Would have controlled the narrative and then you would have heard even a Smith and other people saying well they said he didn't look good he can't play ball and now things are just you know concentrate on you know football 'd and not so much about activism maybe we'll be back in the n.f.l. That would have been the narrative so he took that power out of their hands and say No you want to look at me working out I'm ready as a player right now you know what I mean so it's not all so bad. It's too old he's missed 3 years he should be all that he took away by saying No Jaco watching. And that's what you're dressed me to work and spank them for covering it here just them for a while to talk to me like they want to keep you out because I'm telling the n.f.l. That I'm ready for you all to me now you have now you have to just be ready for me to come back but I'm telling you I'm ready and you know everybody can see the tape in every tank at this point one would ask if you know that the operation n.f.l. Is dirty that they're colluded that they are doing these. Things that are unethical why join the organization is this about principle or is this really about trying to get a job back or as some people say have enough money so what does he need a job but is this about ultimately. It's about so many things Ok so one of the things that is sewage Daisy was when he said it's not about one man getting a job as as there where I'm from Homeboy like we know Cabinet personally No it's not what it is because what it represents for them to be able to write ball cap and out of the league right and to keep them out of the league it's fins a message to all the other athletes if you step out of line you need to be ribald like happening so you better stay in line that's the message that it sends you know what I mean it's like back in the day when you know where everybody lives all routes you know I mean when going through the can't say was trying to run away they brought him in the middle of of the of the plantation call all the slaves around all the inflamed people all around and watch what we're going to do and they come up with but instead of anybody else tried to run away just what happened to you and so the n.f.l. Tried to come to can say Colin Kaepernick and that's why it's ironic I don't think it's ironic but there's a certain reason why he wore a shirt that said quote The kids just say I want that because that's what the n.f.l. Tried to make you. And so so in order for him to continue to be wiped out That's why would people try to discount it like you know well what is it just about him getting a job when it's him getting the job going to do with anything and does a lot because it takes that narrative away you know to talk to younger and to fill places you've got talk to younger athletes that see that and then that's going to be told to there were no you can't you can't speak out you can't say certain things you can't you have to fall in line because you don't want to get done like happened you don't want to get tapenade out of the league you know the right the time if you can it 10 if you can put on your. And be a hat and go back to the days that you were playing. And I think we're roughly in the same generation there was a time that there was a time when I'm only 21 but you know. But don't tell nobody it's a secret. But but let's put this on there was a time. Where there was concern from activists that athletes weren't speaking out a nuff is like what happened to the days of Muhammad Ali and the Jim Browns and the bill Russell's Why don't we have those type of athletes and the prevailing thought at this time which is why I said I think we're roughly in the same generation tell me if I'm right or wrong we started to hear that well if you want to get an endorsement if you want to maybe have a a life after you know after you know your tenure in sports you know you want to be a commentator is best for you to go along and get along and just play the corporate game and everything will be good so don't be too controversial that was the words of wisdom that was kind of put down and I think many people saw that. Something right about that we saw people like you sell the other started to speak out but I bring this up to ask is this a reaction to the fact that we do have so many people who have spoken out you know from the law Braun James is it may be a Steph Curry on the on one end it may be others saying we're not going to go to the White House but it seems like there's a reaction to athletes who have these big platform speaking out but from an athletic standpoint maybe you can enlighten us how you seen this arc. Or use it or yeah I'm here. Ok I just got a call we're going to well this is what it is. So people like athletes speak out on topics that they agree. That's what it is so so if this happened before the left on the right always make that distinction this is not just the right that does this the left does this as well if there is an absolute that sticks out and you agree with what they're speaking out on they will applaud they will invite you want to their show they will write your articles about you they were praising their lips you but if you speak out on something that they disagree with then they will attack you and usually it's attacking you personally and not even attacking the topic that they just disagree with it's just a personal attack and that happens way too often on both the left and the right so what I'm doing now is I'm going across the country connecting with different universities and setting up these different debates with people that I disagree with I I I did a debate at Howard University with Michael Eric Dyson who I definitely respect but on the topic of j.v. In the n.f.l. Deal that they had I disagree with his take and we had a respectable debate nothing personal debated disagree for 2 straight hours you know to me but afterwards it was respectable and we didn't draw the line in the sand we present our positions and everything like that and argue the top so so so so next this week on Friday I'm going to be out at u.s.c. And I'm going to be debating with somebody who I disagree with quite often and Marcellus Wiley so also there will be Dr Harry and where's the beef even Jackson and Jubal to read so we have a multitude of different opinions and thoughts but we're not going to have personal attacks you know to be what I have name calling like when you know elementary school we're going to talk about the topic we're going to debate the actual topic and we're going to do a President Obama kept saying agree to disagree without being disagreeable right but let's talk about this this trajectory them now because for a long time athletes were encouraged to remain quiet when did you see. The turn that we started to see athletes speak out more and view their platforms and inform themselves on the issues whether we agree with or not because the whole thing about you know be quiet and just dribble Well you know when white folks who have a racist tendency you kind of understand that they just don't want to see black people speaking out but when you start to see other folks you know weigh in on this it seems to be coming from this thing of caution like be careful you know if you say too much you going to pay a price and it seems like more and more you know athletes have shedded that. Well that goes back to my original point about happening why him being white bought out the lead plays that narrative that's why it's important you know the name because that is the prevailing notion you asked me to move and move to basketball when I was playing the prevailing also was you know I got a lot of warnings to myself from different people all throughout the n.b.a. To be careful or because I would have I would get you know done like move up to our roof or Craig Hodges who are both bought out the n.b.a. Under David Stern to like right now it's a different n.b.a. On the Adam Silver is not the same n.b.a. As it was on the David Stern you know what I mean and people a lot of times forget that part. But but but but but I think that that that reactance fear that we have right now in the n.b.a. Is different I mean I interview Adam Silver for my book we matter and I asked him I asked him flat out would you punish somebody who speaks out on a topic that you disagree with you know that's the caviar the last part is that you disagree with anybody cared to support somebody they agree with you don't mean but that you disagree with and he said point blank you don't need any by the book I have him on record saying no he's like I have a I have a of value an appreciation for the history of activism that. We have had in our in our league to talk about Bill Russell and Barrasso Robinson all these different people so that atmosphere that you're creating makes it easier for players to be able to to speak out without the fear of retribution happening to them if they do you know what I mean or punishment happening to them and if you. Mark Cuban You know I don't mean the all the never I interview 10 the alters the all the Washington Wizards and asking the same thing and the thing about it is I tried to interview Dan Steinberg I tried to interview. Jimi Jimi. From from from Dallas right Jimi don't try to interview them I Jerry Jones Jerry Jones there it sounds right not allow him so I want to do a break but Jerry don't you want to me and they didn't want to interview me they rejected it because I already know what their goals say and I'm quite out of time and that that is the stage to bury my I know Dan Snyder and Jerry's all have a very much different opinion when it comes to activism and players saying you know speaking out then you know Adam Silver and Mark Cuban and you know this is 2 different league so that's why you see a difference now to end the 8 because they nobody. 6 in fear that they will get punished for it that. Let me ask you is this is this about just not agreeing with somebody it's opinion or do they see the athlete who uses his platform his or her platform to speak out as being a viable threat a political threat that needs to be shut down what is this about what's your take on that. I think it's a little both you know asking will do the bar does that very question in my book and he said paraphrasing what he said with but he said yes of course if you see somebody who has the ability to change people's minds and have millions of followers and people are fans of a hang on their every word you know talking on a position that you disagree with of course are going to be a threat to you and he said that's why that athletes are such a threat to so many people amazed to America because athletes are not having the position that they had they don't want to name and that's that's so it's a mixture of both of your. Questions that you make so if they agree even if they agreed with them then that would be different then you would see them invite them on Fox News Bill O'Reilly one of the come on Sunday all of them called learning from Laura Ingle would have no problem and not tell Le Bron to shut up in trouble if he was talking something that was pro truck if he agreed with what he was saying and that was the thing. With the issue of China so it's like now the same exact people who have been telling athletes to set up to stay in your lane all these different things are now trying to encourage athletes to use their voice on a topic that they agreed with and that's the thing you can't have it both ways it can't be on your terms we ought to mean that's not the way they're wired but that's the way that is so work to them so now with Colleen Kapur Nick what we're really looking at is a figure. Who in many ways and in tell me if this is true he has moved the needle in a number of ways he's moved people to stop watching the n.b.a. And in the n.f.l. He's moved people to maybe think about activism and he's also pointing a finger at the police and that may and the police have been very protective about the image you know we just did a show about all the ways in which they're involved with television programs and you know and and very protective so you know him doing this this this protest and saying it is about police brutality that angers a lot of people because they I guess they fear is influence or or this something else in the works. But I think you know both definitely that there is influence I mean happened had little kids you know the mean little white kids taking a knee is not just you know what you know what I related to my every day myself my all out there by saying is over but remember. Back in this and the of the gladiator Movember when he was like he was like looking at the look cats and they were they were they were doing a floor fight and in the one looked at was like you know I Maximus you know to me it's all it's like his little nephew or whatever he was doing in the movie was was he had been trying to be the do that he hated right that's what I see happening with these people a major American now you know I mean they're young kids are taken in need you will be all these white suburban look here take me saying now this ain't right police brutality isn't right and all this stuff they being employed by capital now we know that their reaction was like that with hip hop was I thought a little like your face at the polies after every way came out and they rap in public getting it but it's the same thing so that's a vendor threat to them you don't want to mean so yeah Caprona cabinet there's a threat on many levels because what he represents looks low now and people don't like to make this this comparison. I mean I'll eat but right now you can't see it and 50 years from now they will be mentioning cap and I guarantee that because during our lease heyday they wasn't mentioning him with the athletes before him he was public enemy number one the way that they hate Kapanen they had ighly a 100 times more and they were in the sixty's he did so with Malcolm x. Telling of a not going to go to war fight he was literally public enemy number one you know what about now they all embrace that and now they live to Muppet now because because of you know the name because he's gone and he's not longer a threat to them anymore what you'll see the same thing happened years ago and it will be like wait a minute now major American want to want to praise Cagney and that's why we all acted before the same way our parents and grandparents are reacting when they serve America now was it's all good about Muhammad Ali because they remember they're like now it's not the way to get a brace of like that back in the day and they were quite a few black folks that were saying Mohammed Ali needs to shut up pipe down because he was making black people look bad with his his brash talk no question they said that about Malcolm x. They said about diaper change then people want to act like everybody from the since the was down with Dr King was largely whether or not it's true you know when I mean everybody was there with Mohammed Ali everybody one supported Bill Russell another that you know the name but that's how history you know just kind of a fairy tale this you know made after after is told after the fact but now this you know you'll see a change happen the 50 years from now but right now they just by you look at all the the effect with the with the deep hatred that they talk about Catholics like he really that's something that offended them so much that he doesn't even deserve to be on Earth that's the level of venom that they think about capital right now and that's the same Bynum they spoke about about Mohammed Ali back in the time let me ask you this. Was a good dad. He you know there was no real resolution with this tryout does he become more of a figure that can be bothersome to the status quo outside the n.f.l. Versus him because it seems like once you're in they can get you on that contract and you know in Qana you know movie in certain directions we saw that with Michael Bennett another athlete who's out spoken but now he's on the Cowboys under you know Jerry Jones and you've seen him standing up for the anthem the cap a nickel on the outside there's nothing you can do to really rein them in. Well the way this is for them to be able to improve their p.r. No matter what happens and that's what that was my point I wrote an article about it for the Guardian. And I really want to lay out how the you know and I had to give the n.f.l. Props on this like the way that they laid this out no matter what the scenario they're going to have a spin that makes them look good they don't mean so cap'n a if he's a no show at all these obstacles that they put in front of them using those to alter the meaning then they say well a we tried to do this for him and to bring him back and but he didn't want to do it so you're not interested in or to me if they have it and neither team show up then they're like then I saw well we tried but the teams are just interested you know I mean we did all we could if he came there and had a bad performance you know what I mean and they protected themselves by not stalling but you know they try to protect themselves by not letting a body see the actual performance so they can gain control the narrative and say well he's not ready to play in the n.f.l. Physically so we can't just put him in here you know just because we want to be in there we love him to be at but he's not ready physically you're doing so and then this is the thing and they would have if he would have agreed like there was a lot of speculation that said if he would have that they were going to tell him that we would give you a contract if you stand any and you promise not to merely again if he want to take that deal if you take that deal the 1st thing you want to seem was all a different need all the good servant of all the people who they got working for them because they see this is your hero see all it was about the money for him you know what do you see he really about the cause and then they turn down icon so Everest in their will that they set of they win so that's what the n.f.l. Gets so now you see right now with this scenario that they probably didn't expect with him going to a whole different site they're still trying to put in place that he doesn't we don't want to do what we need him to do it or get for him to have a contract but now it's all that that was the stuff that was the whole thing look like a big Senate right and it was a smart move on cap and taken his team because we got to see the work out and we could see that obviously he's in shape in fact he's in better shape than when he was an n.f.l. You know. And and he could do his thing you know I started off by mentioning Bill Russell and in one of the things that I was thinking about was self-determination you know people who are going to control the narrative and do what they think is right on principle and I think many people looking at the cap and it situation and concluding that he's moved in that direction expect she since he didn't go and sign away his rights et cetera et cetera Bill Russell let's talk about him because this week he ended a 44 year boycott that I think many people didn't know he had against the basketball Hall of Fame can we talk about that because that seem a very principled action on his part and one that got result set I think has not been celebrated. Well Bill Russell is on the principle and I don't know the details of why he released the boycott of it or why he went to like you said I don't even know he was one time you want to make a but I was kind of wondering why he wasn't in the Hall of Fame will do though but I didn't know the backstory to it so I got to read up on it a little bit more but when you take Bill Russell if you just take the fact that he wanted 11 championships in Boston right 11 championships he was when everything I did nobody could touch bottom like you can't even imagine you know a legend you know rain for one team that means you should be like anything less of a guy in the city. But when he but when they went down to Kentucky and then they said there was going to do a preseason game and then the people said well the black players can't come in here like players all troops but black players I'm going to go around the back of this why don't we establish that and he said oh yes he's like oh forget it we're a nobody playing here in Kentucky that we that we just boggle messed with this restaurant we messed with we're all of Kentucky You don't say and we don't go home and when he did that in the way that everybody turned on him now you gotta love that in the fifty's in the sixty's we don't mean they were like the on Grateful athlete but all the people he went to championships they're right they can say like oh he's not performing on the on court he's not going to be he went in championships and they all turned on him so he developed a callous shell to see and all them people who should be loving them because these women that would say be it's his affair then turn on him and then he made the same he's like look I'm not a town you that you used to entertain your circus like I'm a man I have opinions I have beliefs and I have the things that I stand on and you have to respect me as a man so anything after that I have much respect for for Bill Russell because he laid the foundation of standing up for principles really the moon and that and that's that's why he is special and that's why you will always be you know to being valued as you know that that ultimate athlete activism to stand up for what you believe right and of course just just so we know. What it was is that there was a gentleman by the name of Chuck Cooper who was the 1st black man drafted by the n.b.a. And Bill Russell felt like he should be in the Hall of Fame and in till he was in the Hall of Fame Bill Russell was not going to acknowledge the basketball of same which state they voted him in but he was like yeah I'm not going to not really going to check for that so I guess he just ended it this week you know once it was made known that Chuck Cooper got in and that's what made me it might seem like minutes to from West Oakland took that strong stance for 44 years just you know just to make sure somebody got they they props right and they didn't have not you know him it wasn't like personally because they want to celebrate but he was like no it's bigger than me it's about the principle you know I mean this man broke barriers and you ought to want to even put him in the hall I mean does that don't you know him but that's things gamble that we that we got to you know have for our younger athletes and our athletes coming up right now that you have to stand for something. You know that and that's the part that they cannot stand about Cabinet because they want to tear him down like if you look at the different things the conservative media the people I disagree with them they don't talk about the topic they don't talk about what he said he was taken for bang bang they had no debate about police brutality or systemic racism or the political process is what he listed but they don't then try to tear him down personally because they don't like what he represents and that's what happens religion so that's why that's why you know as he keeps fighting and keeps not allowing them to control who he is I mean he he he is honestly more more valuable absolutely that in the league in my opinion I don't care if you've played you know another another another step in the league won't change what he stands for but what he will do is to keep that narrative away that they that they need to all the other players because players watch and he can't be held over their head to say you have to fall in line or you will be white balled awfully to that's the only reason that's the only thing that's the only positive that I see for him coming back to the n.f.l. For them not to be able to hold that over over other athletes. You know that's the voice of Eaton Thomas each and Thomas as we get ready to close out let everybody know where they can hear you how they can check you out in and also have you have a been faced with that sort of challenge you know where you had to stand on principle and you was maybe looking at you know having the kids to career and everything goodbye. You know when I was there playing with the Wizards I'm in d.c. And I'm right when the invasion of Iraq happened and you know I'm in the nation's capital you want a 911 just happened and I seen George w. On there making the connection the you know now all the sudden all of our focus is on Iraq and I'm like Whoa wait a minute why right got to do with the economy and I'm. Look it's I'm trying to make because I felt like what does this have to do what I write why are we still why we now going to Iraq and so I had a happy partly because my younger brother had a lot of his classmates that in that were enlisted in the army and a lot of them were being sent to Iraq and I'm like wait a minute why are we sending me some cash over to Iraqi right now and they had nothing to do with 911 so I started speaking out against it now when I spoke out against the war in Iraq when I was here with d.c. In d.c. You really playing for the Washington Wizards and you've got to remember now you know both sides Republicans and Democrats you know you talk about Iraq and the like now yeah we should have gone in there but back then it was like it was like the desert 6 months or more like 2 other people you know on a day like one Nobody's saying that to because the way that they painted it was that if you speak out against the war in Iraq you are anti-American you know me so when I did that I started getting this before social media but I started getting hate mail delivered me to the rise of several The rise of sentiment but you know the name that I start again hate mail people saying Look you'll deserve to be playing in the n.b.a. To be in the country you know Conan and word from somebody to actually have the gall to to write you a letter or call you the n. Word and mail it to you if you don't say it like that that's not like this back in the day like you're black or white segregation times this was like you know to me and in 2000 so that's when I really like enough people people get mad when they. You know you take a different opinion that they have and I just that's why you know I wrote the book but we matter as an activism and courage in young athletes to use their voices you know I interviewed family members of victims of police brutality and they're telling how much it means to them when athletes use their voices and it's you know you have so much power but then you have so many forces working against you you were made some going to keep doing what I'm doing to keep writing going to keep doing. It is debates and panels across the country and I don't mean it it's something that a passion for so my left side of my name a time at a time time is not come and. Anybody listening to it was to book me I mean my for manager is taking all bookings right now that's the university time time is 36 and e-mail dot com managers now Bolger and you know I like coming to university because it's breaking so many people say wow I never knew that an athlete could think like this and they sent us off that's a compliment like you know that's not a compliment right you know like which is a federal government you know but. Now is the time this is like a special time with athletes because this generation they're not afraid to use their voices like previous generations were I mean you alluded to the question before but there was a time where you know people thought that if you if you did speak out you're going to hurt your endorsement but now you have athletes like Le Bron who is the top athlete right now and he's you know he's he's talking going to trump he's using this platform he's getting things past him and Cal Instead of California you know I mean he even being the ultimate actually activist and it's other athletes are taking notice you want to make it so that's why it's such a special time right now it is the biggest like a ball back time to the sixty's right now that is beautiful to see and so now we just got to get the n.f.l. On board and we should be stirring Right right right agree Well we appreciate you coming on we can catch you and Dave Xyron on Friday Friday mornings on k p f a what time. Out here is 10 o'clock on on. 10 o'clock but I think they replay it on Friday I think I replay it a new I thought it was at noon out there on the West Coast but I had to check on that now wish Ok well the collision with politics in sports really meet. It's pride . And I'm going to take a break on hard not radio We'll be right back. And . So. Now the soul. From. The. Gate friends comrades brothers and sisters greeting. There could be no serious consideration of the subject of prison abolition in America without reflection on the work of black feminist scholar activists there and you know why Davis who in 2003 published its the prison obsolete by 7 stories an open media press her work is the over text book for runner works on the abolition of the Oprah. Spectacle of princes especially if you are a mass incarceration early in her text Professor Davis recounted her memories of the early sixty's a period of American history when black radicals were imprisoned for their work and the black liberation movie which was and you have a tape this herself she wrote. When I 1st became involved in anti prison activists during the late sixty's I was astounded to learn that there were then close to 200000 people in prison had any one told me that in 3 decades 10 times as many people would be locked away in cages I would have been absolutely incredulous I imagine that I would have responded something like this. As racist and undemocratic as this country may be remember during that period the demands of the civil rights movement had not yet been consolidated I do not believe. That the us government will be able to lock up so many people without producing our full public resistance so this will never happen not unless this country plunges into fascism that's the insight and vision of Dr Angela why Davis my thinking really tracks her for as one who came to consciousness during the sixty's the explosion of the prison population was quite unthinkable. But history sometimes takes unforeseen forks in the road leading us to unforeseen destinations in the tourist drug war launched by the late President Richard Nixon was the toll gate leading to this unprecedented Road to Perdition by way of mass incarceration. This call for a drug war had immense impact on millions of lives. And predominately black and brown communities it is ironic in the extreme that the Us is now undergoing another unprecedented drug crisis this time by an explosion of opioids like Oxy cuts and Sentinel drugs more powerful than heroin but the addicts are largely white and rural and their trucks are lethal according to recent published reports some $70000.00 people addicted to these drugs die per year in the us but the drug dealers wear white coats and have pain prescriptions to service their drug clients these drug users are like those in the ghettos of America aren't treated with derision or contempt they are treated with loving compassion and they if they survive aren't sent to prison they are asked to enter rehab clinics instead. The movement that emerged from the rebellion of Ferguson Missouri have real merged in the black lines matter movement. And many b.l.m. Affiliates have a braced abolition to address the issue and the records of mass incarceration in Pennsylvania we've seen the rise of a state wide movement called the car saree which is today fighting for release of thousands of lifers instinct priests these activists many of them young enough to be the grandchildren of the sixty's generation are continuing the long struggle for freedom by dismantling the tentacles of mass incarceration but we are now at the emergence point of that movement not its And sadly there is more work to be done. To same. From the presentation this is. Just. Commentaries recorded by Noel and. Radio. Around. The universe no. Change to make opportunity we got to take 1st things 1st you know yourself 1st child control Joe changed to make opportunity your. First things for you to know yourself 1st troll go build a song. We hear for hours. Since we got to make it then take it seriously be the solution for your problem get the problem dealt with real. Estate problems which are. Real slick we try to deprogram to. The strong economic state. All the girls will impose on polygamists understand the change to make opportunity and we got ours Thanks for. Your. First control. Change. Opportunity think you know we got 1st things 1st gets a job her 1st child the control his daughter from the problem. Is people. They seem to be. I mean go back to sea and I get back to Seattle Seattle is nice and peaceful beautiful Seattle and Seattle had these bird houses in it was known for Canadian Bud you know Canadian but it was supposed to be the best marijuana and so you had these little but houses in Seattle where you could just go you know people would go and buy their marijuana One Friday I went down to the but house and I saw these people from the city there you know by and there but I said Ok ku well within 6 months crack cocaine come to Seattle the but houses closed down and the crack houses open up the crack cocaine swept through the black community like wildfire you know it swept through the central area my neighborhood I grew up in I grew up in a neighborhood image Jonah where growing up we had there were families 6 kids 7 kids large families these families everybody in the family is addicted to crack abstaining a whole family even the mother and a father and all of the kids get addicted to crack when their parents died they gave their kids the house and the house they sell the house for crack so this epidemic swept through Seattle and it started going east and it swept all over the country not just the crack but the gangs because the 2 were combined and they split all over the country and what happened was it started destroying the black family and a lot of grandparents who were not addicted had to take over and started taking care of the kids. Then of course it increase crime whenever you have addiction like you know the crime is going to go off the chains then everybody gets all worked up about the crime what do we got to do about the crime then that's when Hillary Clinton came out and said that we've got to get rid of these predators she has time out to young black kids and they created these harsh prison sentences if you have powder cocaine you got less time which was what the white people had the powder and the black people had to crack if you got caught with crack you're going to go to prison for 20 years. If you have powder you might get a slap on the wrist and so they started you know coming up 3 strikes you're out and created these harsh sentences for people who had crack and the thing about it was a lot of those people who are crack were crack users they were trying to get some more money to buy some crack but if they had some crack on them they got busted for dealing and so they went to prison so Joe so and so who's just a regular guy not a dealer but he gets busted with some crack in his pocket because he's trying to find some more crack so he can keep going he goes to prison for 20 years mothers become addicted and the other thing about crack is that when women smoke crack they were having more babies. That some of them had 7 babies and all the babies were taken from this scenario just started playing out more and more and you could see the breakdown of the family you could see the traditional black family that we once had in 1904 black people had the highest rate of 2 parent families that all broke down in the eighty's they were talking about how the black community had the highest rate of 2 percent families in the 1970 s. What is it you think provides that strength and family here because you know we weren't allowed to have families during slavery we weren't allowed the privilege to be able to take care of our families and take care of our kids so when the Civil War ended for the 1st time black people had an opportunity to create their own school and you know for the mother and a father to gather their kids and protect them and take care of course we went through reconstruction and who who cuts clay and we went to that whole period of lynching everything and so you know during that period when we did have the opportunity to take care of our families we became protective of taking care of them so we wanted to keep the families together you know families were important and even if the families didn't stay together even if the mother and father didn't stay together there was always still the outs and uncles and the grandparents that would step in and fill the void where their broken family might not have been able to it's because of our legacy of slavery that our families found a way to stay together even if they fell out of love with each other even if they you know had arguments and disagreements they stayed together for the family kooky . Porton it was and they didn't have that opportunity before when crack cocaine came. Out of our culture values systems were gone we don't have those cultural values as the Anymore we we had oral tradition we don't have the oral tradition anymore they're already dition was one of the things that also held us together by hearing the stories of our grandparents and I felt as in what they went through we don't have the oral tradition anymore a generation after the baby boomers generation lost that connection you know my generation baby boom generation we were very much connected to slavery you know I live in a house with my great great grandmother who was 97 and when she died you know her mother had been a slave and you know we knew her name and we knew things about her and so we we were connected to that when I was growing up there were kids in the South who were still picking cotton so we had that connection to the past and that connection was broken. The other interesting part is that there was no more movement there was no Black Panther Party there were any other movements who could kind of step in and fill the void because when the gang the Crips they really wanted to try to emulate the Black Panther Party but there were no Black Panther Party members around because many of the had been killed or imprisoned and they couldn't teach them. The right way how to create a movement and so you know you have this materialism you have the cracking you have making all this money and that kind of took the place of everything that took the place of what we had in the sixty's and seventy's in terms of the movement in 10 years 1995 we got 2 and a half 1000000 people in prison we went from maybe 350000 people in prison the 2 and a half 1000000 in prison most of them black young blacks you had some neighborhoods where there were no young people there were no young men there were no young boys because they were all in prison and it had a huge impact on the social service program because so many people had to get into social service you had all these people who are addicted to crack they can't get a job yet all these people apply for s.s.i. S.s.i. Is a disability now only that for the 1st time Seattle had gang you had the who lacked society breaking down. That was Karen Dixon former Black Panther Party Seattle chapter captain. You're listening to Katy c.s. Independent radio. You're tuned into music and ideas 913 k. B.C.'s Bellevue a listener supported public service of Bellevue college broadcasting in h.d. And online at A.B.C.'s dot. Com. From New York this is democracy now to stablish read of Israeli civilians settlements in the West Bank is not per se inconsistent with international law. In an abrupt reversal of the trumpet ministrations announced it no longer views Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank to be a violation of international law will get the latest But 1st as South Bend there Pete put it so war is in the polls in Iowa close to 10. Points ahead of the other candidates one look at why some believe the primary order is racist I recently posed the question to Senator Elizabeth Warren. The whitest states in the country and then we move to South Carolina with a very significant population of people of color and it means the candidates spend so much of their time teetering to those 1st 2 states do you think that should change I'm just a player in the game ball on this one and I am delighted to be in South Carolina and will speak to Bolivia as ambassador to the United Nations all that and more coming up. To Democracy Now Democracy Now job for the war and peace report I mean the good men in a sharp reversal of more than 40 years of u.s. Policy Secretary of State Mike Pompei o has announced the United States no longer views Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank to be a violation of international law despite a 2016 un resolution declaring the settlements a flagrant violation of international law Monday's announcement sparked widespread condemnation from Palestinians this is chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat. You know 6 months from Booker by the Palestinian territories according to the report I'm. Only going to get on that of them a shuttle. But I'm just a month old the secretary of state of the United States is a salute to the letter just to most people in them. Soon after Secretary of State Mike Pompei Oh announce the new u.s. Policy the u.s. Embassy in Israel issued a travel warning to Americans in Israel the West Bank and Gaza will have more on the Israeli settlements and Pompei as announcement after headlines will speed. 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