Various felonies that includes campaign finance violations related to the hush money payments a 7 year old migrant girl who traveled with a group from Central America has died of dehydration and shock in Border Patrol custody in El Paso Texas as N.P.R.'s John Burnett reports she began having seizures in the federal station the u.s. Border Patrol says in a statement that medics measure the girl's body temperature at 105.7 degrees she was medivac to a hospital in El Paso went into cardiac arrest and died 24 hours later Border Patrol internal affairs is investigating if they handled the incident properly but the agency says its agents took every possible step to save the child's life the Border Patrol further says it is begging migrant parents not to endanger their children's lives by bringing them on the arduous journey northward last month a record of more than 12000 family members including young children across the southern border illegally Border Patrol officials say their processing cells are not set up to deal with such large numbers of families John Burnett n.p.r. News El Paso time is running out for people looking for insurance through the Affordable Care Act N.P.R.'s Allison Kojak reports tomorrow is the deadline to pick a plan on health care dot gov so far this year fewer people have been signing up for insurance coverage on the federal government's exchange that has some analysts worried that the rate of people without insurance might start to rise after falling dramatically since the law went into effect Catherine Baker is an economist at the University of Chicago we don't know whether sign ups on the exchanges are slower but we'll catch up in the last few days whether slower sign ups mean people are getting insurance somewhere else or are destined to be uninsured unemployment has fallen this year so some people with new jobs may have new insurance and people who already have a ca coverage could just let their policies renew automatically the final numbers will be available next year Alison Kojak n.p.r. News on Wall Street the Dow Jones Industrials are down more than 200 points at 24395 the Nasdaq is down 58 points the s. And p. 500 is down 18. This is n.p.r. Grammy award winning jazz singer Nancy Wilson has died at the age of 81 after a long illness Wilson recorded more than 60 albums and as N.P.R.'s Ted Robbins tells us n.p.r. Listeners may remember her especially fondly on Nancy was that and this is jazz profiles Nancy Wilson hosted N.P.R.'s documentary series jazz profiles she began her career more than a half century ago it or 20 she met saxophonist Cannonball Adderly he suggested she moved to New York and she did recording a number of successful singles and albums including this collaboration with an early. Line and solo. Nancy Wilson won 3 Grammys as well as awards for her activism in the civil rights movement she died at her home outside Los Angeles Ted Robbins n.p.r. News French authorities say a man shot and killed yesterday in a police shootout is the man who shot and killed 3 people this week in Strasbourg he wanted 13 others Tuesday night police searched for 2 days to locate the gunman delegates at the world climate conference in Poland have extended their summit by 2 days they're working to complete draft agreements to cut greenhouse gas emissions and go shooters are trying to finalize the guidelines that countries will use to try to lower the earth's temperature a goal set in the Paris climate accord the u.s. Has refused to endorse the major climate study unveiled last weekend at the summit this is n.p.r. Support for n.p.r. Comes from n.p.r. Stations other contributors include l.d. Entertainment and roadside attractions with Ben is back starring Julia Roberts as a mother whose son unexpectedly returns home at Christmas also with Lucas hatches now in select theaters experience December 21st. 'd it's time for the Friday news round of the dishes. Hosted by Josh. Underwritten. By Jim and Sally Clark. It's time to join Joshua Landis Yes they deliver day is just a week. This is one a happy Friday I'm Joshua Johnson in Washington we call this the Friday news round up but sometimes it feels like the round up of news that happens on Friday Michael Cohen made that revision feel like the right move to this morning he broke his silence directly accusing President Trump in the crimes that will send Cohen to prison I should not be the only one taking responsibility for his actions so he's to line yes Meanwhile the White House needs a chief of staff asap there was plenty to do in the new year and Congress demands answers over Google's business practices but perhaps what it really needs is tech support smartphones are apparently more complex than we thought. Joining us in studio for the round up is fit in under Pisano a Washington correspondent for Univision for in under Welcome back to the round up and q. Also glad to welcome back Wendy Benjamin sin the managing editor for McClatchy d.c. Bureau Wendy welcome thank you rat and Josh crossbar the political editor of The National Journal Josh Welcome good morning Joshua We also welcome your questions and thoughts about this week's news and boy are there plenty of questions to be answered so e-mail us one a app's w.a.m. You dot org comment on our Facebook page or tweet us at one a we begin of course with Michael Cohen the president's former personal attorney he was sentenced to 3 years in prison this week for what the judge called a quote veritable smorgasbord of criminal conduct unquote that includes buying the silence of 2 women who claim to have had affairs with Donald Trump before he took office the president fired off a series of tweets the next day denying that he had told Colin to break the law but not directly denying that he had colon make those payments for his part Michael Cohen is not going quietly his 1st t.v. Interview since being sentenced aired this morning here's a clip of that interview with A.B.C.'s George Stephanopoulos the man doesn't tell the truth and it's sad that I should take responsibility for his dirty deeds you lie for him for a long time more than 10 years why out of loyalty out of loyalty to him I followed a bad path and I will not be the villain has I told you once before I will not be the villain of his story Michael Cohen speaking to A.B.C.'s George Stephanopoulos in an interview that aired this morning let's step back from this interview we'll come back to this in just a 2nd just cross Harken you back up to just the sentencing remind us exactly what it is that Michael Cohen is going to prison for yet he's going to prison he's getting a 3 year sentence for arranging secret payments covering up. Affairs that the president had with a Playboy playmate. Stormy Daniels a porn star he's being also sentenced for lying to Congress about his knowledge of Trump dealings in Moscow with with the with the tower that was in negotiations that we learned that he was being was truthful about not just the Congress but in public and he also didn't disclose all of his reported income during that time period so this is we really have 2 avenues there's the covering up the payments the campaign finance violations where there's some really hard evidence tying Trump directly to to this situation but I think the more politically consequential issues long term is what was going on with the negotiations with Moscow with some to disreputable Russian surrogates that were that were taking place during the presidential campaign we don't know a whole lot about that story but we do know Cohen has been talking to Muller and has a lot of information to share when he Benjamin said we should also try to keep this straight in terms of the prosecutors who have been opining on Michael Cohen in the last week we've got these federal prosecutors with the sentencing here but that's different from the Muller investigation prosecutors they've both had things to say and they kind of overlap but they're not quite the same that's exactly right the prosecutors in New York seem to be very intent on getting Michael Cohen and I've heard other prosecutors in New York saying that they're going after Trump they're going after his family they're just going to go after this as hard as they can Muller who has a bigger picture to look at is is crediting Michael Cohen Mike Flynn other people like that with cooperation that cooperation gets them something because his eye is on the the bigger ball if you will and so I think I think. Muller referred this case to the prosecutors in New York because it was a specifically you know state crimes committed and then it will be used to help the Moller investigation and we'll talk more about Michael Flynn just a moment I'm glad you brought that up the kind of difference in the way that the mother team is kind of painted Michael Cohen as someone who's been somewhat helpful and then the way that federal prosecutors painted Michael Cole with the sentencing which was basically is this like very super greedy very you know power hungry person who was in some ways impenitent over what he did now I don't know in court Michael Cohen went out of his way to kind of paint of self as someone who was working just on President Trump's orders you heard him mention dirty deeds to George Stephanopoulos he said so before some questions as to what this actually means for the president Jim wrote on our Facebook page still no collusion still no crimes Well we have to say to the Judge William Pauley was not very. Receptive to the when when Cohen was asking for clemency he said basically that as a lawyer he should have known better all this time about what he did now the question as well here is what is he going to talk about later on when he starts cooperate ing with Miller What are we going to find out because many of the lawyers that I've had a chance to speak to this this week say that Cohen's going to try to reduce the sentence between here and I the time he's supposed to report to prison and March so I think there's a lot of room and there's a moment for him to negotiate and what we've seen as of today with this interview to a.b.c. News is probably the beginning of that in terms of whether or not this bodes ill for the president Josh I mean I hear where Jim is coming from the terms of still no collusion still no crimes that's not 100 percent so because Michael Cohen has not basically directly fingered Donald Trump in committing 2 felonies there was an ominous line in the judge Judge Pauley sentance. He said Mr Cohen's crimes implicate a far more insidious crime to our democratic institutions especially in view of his subsequent plea to making false statements to Congress the campaign finance violations are serious and they could lead to a felony but the politically explosive charges we're still learning we're going to be learning more about is what with the details between the Trump campaign's connections to Russia and the fact that. You know you had a Cohen meeting with Trump surrogates from people from staffers before. Testifying in front of Congress and being entirely mistruth will there's a lot of smoke there and that's where this fire may end up leading we're speaking to Josh Proscar political editor for The National Journal Wendy Benjamin sinne managing editor of McClatchy d.c. Bureau and fed and Opie Sutter a Washington correspondent for Univision we welcome your questions and thoughts about this or any of the other big stories from this week's news by the way we will pick up our conversation specifically on all these money trails on Monday it bears way more unpacking than we have time for today and we know that So if as you read about this over the weekend you have more questions about how to kind of follow all of this money and the investigation surrounding it there's the matter of the inaugural committee that's now being investigated we're going to focus on that much more squarely Monday so leave us a voicemail with those questions 855-236-1818 that's 855-236-1212 answer as many of your questions as we can get to on Monday with regards to the impact on the president when the pop culture cute tweeted President Trump seems to have had a terrible week this week but continues to shrug off criticism Are there any signs that the swirling events are getting to him yes is the short answer to that question I actually don't think he's striking it off I think he is feeling besieged and there's reports that he is angry and the fact that we know how angry he is kind of shows you how the White House in this administration works I mean imagine us hearing about President Obama or President Bush throwing papers around the oval office I'm sure they did every president must have a bad day but we get to hear every time Trump is enraged and. He does seem to be enraged and of course he tweets which And he sort of out of the blue you know I think he is he has commanded a sort of monarchical loyal. Around from the people around him and that these people are beginning to realize the cost of that man a Ford flim Cohen at center So yes I think he's I don't think he shrugged it off at all another aspect of this but in the know is that a Russian national by the name of Maria pled guilty to conspiring to act as a foreign agent as part of her plea deal with federal prosecutors but you know admitting that she was part of an organized attempt by Russian officials to try to influence top conservatives through the n.r.a. Enough and I know this is a little bit complicated but give us the basics of what this means how Marie of Latina factors into this whole saga well she has been in jail for a while and she as you said she's guilty too if in federal court in d.c. As of acting as a Russian agent that she worked for 2 years to court conservative activists Republicans high level Republicans and the n.r.a. Which is very interesting because as far as that 2015 Apparently she had been in contact with the n.r.a. Which is having a lot of financial issues of their own right now which is kind of unusual we've always thought of the n.r.a. As an organization has very deep pockets and they spend a lot of money on elections and they seem to have spent a lot of money in the 2016 election but anyway she is now facing some basically a sentencing on this and and Russia keeps on denying this I accuse ing the u.s. Of torturing this young woman but she seems to to have been you know to accept the fact that she was a Russian agent acting trying to to influence the election trying to get close to people who would be in the end Trump administration John wrote on our Facebook page the am I corporation is actually the bigger headline of the day at this point we're just watching the dominoes fall like you mentioned that John I do want to ask our panel about what's been going on with the parent company of the National Enquirer when we continue with the. And I know he sort of universe in Wendy Benjamin said of McClatchy and Josh Kraushaar of National Journal But 1st as we catch our breath we want to remember a phenomenal voice the Grammy winning jazz singer Nancy Wilson preferred to call herself a song stylist She's best known for her jazz renditions and for hosting jazz profiles on n.p.r. But she also had success in the pop an r. And b. Charts Nancy Wilson died yesterday at the age of 81 you can hear the power in her performances in all of her songs including this cover of Silent Night from the album jazzy Wonderland I'm Joshua Johnson glad to be with you on this Friday you're listening to one egg from w.a.m. You and n.p.r. . In the new movie Mary Poppins returns when the moment Randall plays Jack lamplighter he sees the light in any situation he looks for the bright side the Hulk even in a dark time or in a dark place it's a far cry from the role of Alexander Hamilton that made Miranda household name that plus the week in politics this afternoon on All Things Considered from n.p.r. News at 3 o'clock this afternoon here on your connection to the arts k.s.u. . 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Bureau National Journal political editor Josh cross-bar and financial piece on her a Washington correspondent for Univision we welcome your questions and thoughts about this week's top stories from across the country comments on our Facebook page tweet us at one a or e-mail one a w am you dot org And remember we will pick up our conversation about this whole follow the money aspect of the news of the last few days including Michael Cohen the investigation into President Trump's Inaugural Committee and more just don't have time to get into a deeply today but we will do it on Monday so as questions occur to you over the weekend just leave us a voicemail 855-236-1818 we'll answer as many of your questions as we can on Monday. John wrote on our Facebook page the am I corporation is actually the bigger headline of the day at this point we're just watching the dominoes fall well am I American Media Incorporated is the parent company of the National Enquirer and it made a deal with prosecutors the Enquirer admitted that it paid a woman who claimed to have had an affair with Donald Trump and paid her to suppress that story Wendy the chief executive of am I David Pecker has been very close to President Trump for a long time what does this agreement mean in a larger sense I think it helps very much prosecutors who may want to pursue felony charges against the president. Probably after he's out of office but it really shows that there were meetings disc that discussed the benefits to his campaign of killing these stories and the National Enquirer has been known for a long time to do by and kill a you know where the action kill is the catch yeah catching you know you know where they pay people to tell their story only to them and then never write the story. Which. Has journalism ethics problems all over it but the but that is what I think it shows is that there was a coordinated effort to help Donald Trump's campaign and that makes it a campaign finance violation you just can we don't like to mention that when he can we dig into just a little bit more in terms of the nature of catching kill as I understand it the legal issue is not the catch and kill part like catch and kill may be unseemly but it's not unlawful the issue is the campaign finance part that's related to this catch and kill practice that's right this is a campaign finance violation because if you're spending money for a campaign it has to be disclosed to the Federal Election Commission and this was never never disclosed and now on a political the political dynamic is interesting because this is about as clear a legal hit against the president as as prosecutors have have uncovered so far in fact there's been reporting that Trump was actually in the room with David Packer as some of these negotiations were taking place but the question is Do voters do Americans look at the lack of disclosure when Trump is clearly trying to to cover up an affair that move the needle at all politically because you know if Democrats want to move on impeachment if they want to use some of these charges in the political sense. You've got to persuade the public and the question is is this going to be enough to move those Republicans that have been supporting Trump through thick and thin across his presidency earlier Wendy mentioned Michael Flynn and for the know we should come back to referring to him because he is another trump associate who's hoping to avoid jail time Michael Flynn the former national security advisor has pleaded guilty to lying to the f.b.i. He's been cooperating with the Mohler investigation since last year this week Flynn's legal team argued in a memo that he should only serve probation partly because the f.b.i. Gave him in their words a false sense of a of security ahead of the meeting in which he lied to them fit in under the weirdest Michael Flynn stand and how does that tie into all of this well it ties to everything that what Michael Flynn may have known about alleged Russian interference or contacts that the Trump and the Trump campaign had with what Russian officials that at the time let's remember this interview with the f.b.i. Was in early 2017 they're retired Army Lieutenant General was part of was was national security adviser very briefly he was asked to step down and he was indicted for lying to the f.b.i. So so now he's asked as you said he's asked the judge to spare time let's remember that also mirrors part of Miller's sentencing recommendation for a 4 Flynn which happened last week but now the judge's order also some some of these documents be sent to him because he wants to review this issue so we'll see what comes out of this you know this request by Flynt. Josh what does this mean for the president going forward I mean we'll talk more about the state of the government in just a 2nd but you've got a sitting president post midterms the Democrats are about to take control in the house which we'll get to in just a 2nd he has been directly implicated in 2 federal crimes we know that there are more lines of inquiry including his Inaugural Committee including am I that could close around him more tightly How does he how does he govern with all this going on well I don't know how much he really is governing and with a Democratic House it's going to be very difficult to accomplish a whole lot legislatively was hard enough with Republican control of the house in the Senate in the last 2 years and you know if the Flynn cooperation is I think a lot more significant than the Cole employee Flynn is the key witness in this in this whole investigation he's quite been cooperative he's getting a very lenient sentence he's going to be sentenced on Tuesday but expectations are he may not see a whole lot of jail time if any at all and he gave $100000.00 interviews with prosecutors and he turned over thousands of documents he was the national security point person during the campaign he was national security adviser for that short period of time he's got a lot of secrets and they're going to be spilled over the next year and I thought good news for the president interesting wonder how this has been kind of a study in how to cooperate with the feds it is and Mike Flynn is a particularly interesting case because as the Pentagon as a combat commander he is highly respected he led the invasion into Baghdad the toppled Saddam Hussein in fact at the Pentagon kept Saddam Hussein's gold plated a k 47 in a frame at his office so he was considered a really story general he gets over to the Defense Intelligence Agency and he's kind of a fish out of water Obama fires and because he's a terrible manager he's not a guy he's a guy who should be on a battlefield not a guy in an office and then he gets to be national security advisor and just makes one judgment error after another it's been just fascinating to watch before we move on from this Chris asked on our Facebook page when will the Moeller probe and do you. I saw a report today that all these signs are saying that maybe it's closer to an end but who knows I mean we need to see what else what the venue development so we can get it going and what we're going to get from calling for instance or even flight and so I think I think it's bet right now we don't know but there is going to be political pressure from Republicans both in the Senate in the house that look if you've got the goods show your hand and I think there's going to be you know that if you look at Muller's public approval ratings they're not as strong as you might be that there is a partisan divide and there's a lot of impatience growing among the general public so I think most understand that he's been very smart politically not to show his hand too much in the last couple years he started to show more of what he has I think we'll learn a lot in the next year I think your answer was 3 Washington journalists collectively going. When you asked that question like who can draw the most breath and not be the 1st one to inhale something wrong or actual something wrong we we don't know we just don't know but one other interesting piece of the Michael Cohen George Stephanopoulos interview but I just want to read from the transcript from a.b.c. News that kind of walks into the next segment George asks Michael Cohen if he meaning the president if he were sitting in this chair right now what would you say to him and Michael Cohen according to the transcript says lay off Twitter run the country the way that we all thought that she would be able to take the democrats republicans bring them together and bring the country together instead of dividing the country Stephanopoulos asks Do you think he has ears to hear that and Cohen says I don't know I don't think so. Directly relevant for our next story because there is work to do including to go shooting a deal that would prevent the federal government from shutting down that could be tough going at least of this week's meeting between President Trump Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer is any indication one thing I think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute and you want to shut it down you know I'm not talking about the last time just you shut it you no no no and then you won't waste time quickly and Lenny I don't want to do what you did 20 time John would call for I will shut down the government if I don't get my well none of us if you want to know something you've said do you want to put that in my set I'll take the president met with the current minority leaders of the House and Senate on Tuesday at the White House the president says he is happy to shut down the government over getting $5000000000.00 in funding for a border wall Wendy is this where we stand 1st of all explain this government shutdown this this shutdown how are we talking about the entire federal government shutting down parts of it what's at stake here very little of the federal government will shut down it's about 25 percent people will still get their Social Security checks all v.a. Agencies that need to be there to protect us will be working there are a few agencies that would not have people work but as it wouldn't start until December 21st anyway these agencies would be sort of at a slow pace to begin with so it's not going to be that harmful but the political ramifications of it are very important so more like a federal government slow down partial shutdown but Josh is this actually going to happen I mean the the wall has gotten scaled back politically repeatedly from being a full border wall that Mexico is going to pay for to a partial border wall the u.s. Is going to put some funding in it'll be 25000000000 maybe they'll be 5 we're starting to build it we're taking our time where does this will actually stand or does the walls there were we're talking about 55000000000. Dollars of funding it's a symbol most a symbolic gesture if Trump got that victory to show that he fulfilled one of his key campaign promises but I almost wonder if Trump likes hanging out the Democratic opposition to his border wall as a campaign tool and I almost wonder if he actually gained a little bit out of that that clash with with polyphony insurers certainly on the negative side for him he got him to say I own that as such I own the shutdown left . You know Plus he was was happy to have him call you know call him at the Trump shutdown on the other hand border security immigration that's Trump's key issue with his base and I think with all these other problems swirling around the presidency he needs his base and I think he was able to underscore that he's willing to fight for immigration even if I mean he may not get the 5 The part that looks very likely that there could be a compromise that doesn't deal with the funding for border so the money may not even be there at all in this some signs that there could be we often find in these battles that Trump says something and congressional Republicans do something different that's looking the way it's going right now and Foot In The Know what about the fact that this happened in front of reporters like the the White House press pool was in the room for like 10 and a half minutes when they're just bickering that's that's what's unusual about this but it's been happening a lot more during the Trump administration let's explain for our listen and for listeners the pool is a group of reporters cameraman cameramen and photographers that follow every president's public move there's something called the pool spray that happens every time the president is in the cabinet room or in the Oval Office with foreign dignitaries dignitaries or someone else and they get a little bit of idio he makes a statement to make it make a statement also the foreign dignitary the cabinet take a couple questions and then the media is assured out under this administration in very loud terms by the media handlers you hear someone say thank you everybody are you allowed to go now thank you it's a little louder than it used to be better anyway so in this case and it's happened several times remember a big long Cabinet meeting also meeting with senators he has let the cameras stay for a long time even before questions are taken and and basically record all this dialogue so it seems a little bit of a set up by the administration I'm by the president himself to let this develop and let this argument go on I'm Joshua Johnson You're listening to one. Fernando let me stick with you for just a 2nd related to border security there's a story that's been developing over the last not quite 24 hours about a 7 year old girl from Guatemala who died from dehydration and shock according to The Washington Post she had been taken into Border Patrol custody last week for crossing from Mexico into the u.s. Without proper documentation with her father and a large group of migrants It happened along a remote span of the New Mexico desert we've been hearing more about children kept in Border Patrol custody particularly in some gigantic facilities thousands and thousands of children N.P.R.'s been reporting on that where does that stand right now this did not happen to one of these facilities that happened at a Border Patrol facility these Border Patrol Foothill facilities that a tend to be smaller their big holding cells men are separated from women secretary Nielsen spoke this morning also the h.s. Came out with a statement late last night about this particular case a cure shingles on the secretary of homeland as a right she was the little girl was in custody of Border Patrol for about 8 hours overnight she came in with a fever of $105.00 she was a Medi Vac to I believe 2 of Paso and she died at a hospital she had even have to be revived at some point she had cardiac arrest but she was she was suffering from seizures as a product of the hydration and exhaustion so the question is Was this a little girl fed and given water during those 8 hour span we are not sure of that yet anyway on this issue of the separation of families continues back to your original question there are still families there's a huge number of kids still under detention 15000 I think it was the last figure I saw but this is a particularly their friend topic this is not family separation these people came through the border they crossed the border not a port of entry and they gave themselves up to the Border Patrol just looks by. To Nancy Pelosi for one second regarding being the speaker of the house again she won over some of her critics to secure that position but the caviar is she agreed to term limits for herself and for 2 other Democratic leaders is this a win for Nancy Pelosi or does this just kind of kick this conflict further down the road oh it's a big win for for Palosi who's going to be speaker at least 2 more terms and showcases how weak the rebellion in her caucus was a Massachusetts congressman Seth Moulton was a big campaigner for a lot of these freshman Democrats who came in campaigned against Palosi so they wouldn't vote for her for speaker and then they get to Washington looks like a paper tiger a lot of these freshmen this change their mind were kind of backed away from their their campaign pledges and even some of the close without even some of those hardened Antipolo the. Opponents the people who signed a letter saying that they would not vote for her under and under any circumstances she got them to fold she got Marcia Fudge who was going to challenge her for the speakership the supporter she got Brian Higgins of New York and Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts 2 were some of her biggest opponents actually supporter her speakership So that shows her just strength within the Democratic caucus but it shows how disorganized and inexperienced frankly the rebels were in the House Democratic caucus before we pause Wendy the Democrats still need a person like Nancy Pelosi I don't think yes I think what the freshmen realized is that the campaign caricature of Nancy Pelosi is a lot different than the tactical expert that Nancy Pelosi really is she knows how to play politics she's been doing had her whole life she grew up in that atmosphere and as Ralph Waldo Emerson said if you're going to aim for the king best not mess. 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Back now to the Friday's roundup with Josh Krause Harf and Opie Sato and Wendy Benjamin Since still time to get some more of your questions and thoughts one a at a and you dot org What's keep going with Washington stories as we mentioned John Kelly is leaving as president Trump's chief of staff as we've mentioned before the president's 1st pick was apparently vice president Mike Pence his chief of staff Nick errors Nick Ayers turned down that job to head back to Georgia Josh Krause where does that leave us in terms of who is in the running for this job well leaves us with with not a whole lot of good options for this White House and look President Trump as his own best communications director his own chief of staff his own best you know legal adviser he doesn't take advice from anyone in the normal traditional roles of a chief of staff are not the same under President Trump and in this case whoever takes the job is frankly going to be set up for failure are in for a very tough time with all the legal challenges the White House faces and they could face even some legal exposure themselves given what's going on so look Chris Christie is the one name that's been mentioned who would be a good fit in an ideal world for the job because of his political know how and his legal background as a former u.s. Attorney I don't know why Christie would take the job but he has been meeting with the White House he's been a little bit coy about his his future plans but everyone else that's been mentioned or turned down the job you're talking about sort of a 3rd tier list of Chiefs of Staff whether it's you know that would occur David Bossie who worked on the the campaign these are folks that if they wanted it would not be of the caliber of of the traditional chiefs of staff were used to we should know if another just to be fair chief of staff is a inherently hard job I mean the longest serving chief of staff ever was John Steelman who was Harry Truman chief of staff he was the very 1st chief of staff and he served for 6 years Andy Card who was in the George w. Bush administration was 5 years Barack Obama went through 4 chiefs of staff in his 1st term before he settled on Dennis McDonough on his 2nd term like you know John Kelly. He's had a tough job but it's an inherently tough job it is a very difficult job but basically managing not just the day to day of the White House is managing the political relationships of the White House with even though you may have your congressional liaison and to the political parties but you have to manage basically everything that goes out of the White House in terms of policy and the relationship with Congress and as Josh was adding then we you know we also have to you know we have to add cushion obviously the big the big maybe that's the card under the under the sleeve but anyway we have a lot of people who could take this position that is Joshua's saying maybe under this particular ministration no one wants it because President Trump tends to go his own way and what we have learned about President Trump he tends to tire of people very quickly especially in a position that is so delicate as chief of staff and the next one who could fall on that issue would be secretary Kristen Hilson from v.h.s. Homeland Security who is a basically had been a deputy for for John Kelly at the h.s. And then he recommended her for the for the Post when he went to be chief of staff and of course worth noting that the chief of staff is not a cabinet level position there's no requirement that we have to have a chief of staff it's. I mean Harry Truman kind of inmate of the job so he might finish the term without a chief of staff that is that is entirely possible we got some more questions from y'all about Michael Cohen and the Mole investigation we'll get into those in one second but there's one more story out of Congress or from former Congress members we wanted to talk about it was a group of former a 44 former lawmakers who came together to kind of amplify their message they coauthored an op ed in The Washington Post this week and warned of quote entering a dangerous period in their words with regard to American democracy so what exactly are asking for that's what Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep was trying to get at when he spoke to former Republican Senator William Cohen he was also President Clinton secretary of defense here is part of what Cohen said on Morning Edition yesterday is your group of senators politely suggesting without explicitly saying the Senate needs to be ready to remove the president should he be impeached the Senate has to be prepared to do what is right under the circumstances the fact that if an impeachment resolution or articles of page were filed and voted on by the House of Representatives sent to the Senate the Senate has an obligation to listen to the evidence and then to vote based upon what they learned I think the United States Senate has an absolute role to say we'll follow the money and the evidence to where ever it leads and hold whoever is responsible accountable that's former defense secretary and former Senator William Cohen speaking to Steve Inskeep yesterday on Morning Edition when the Benjamin said What is this about. I think this is about a number of things I think obviously Senator Cohen was talking about a possible impeachment and that the Senate needs to stand firm for democracy but I think it's also about what Claire McCaskill and Jeff Flake were talking about and others in their farewell speeches yesterday which you know Claire McCaskill said the Senate is no longer the greatest deliberative body on earth and we ought to stop saying that until we are again and she was saying that because of the partisanship and rancor that the marks the marks the modern Senate and I think that's very frustrating to this August list of former senators you know but yesterday they came together on the Saudi resolution which doesn't do anything but it it has Bernie Sanders and Mike Lee and if you can get those 2 guys to agree on anything Mike Lee being a Republican from Utah and Bertie being the very progressive senator from Vermont. To get to agree to punish Saudi Arabia in some way for the killing of casualty and I think that's the sort of action these guys are looking. We'll get to some more of your questions in just a moment as we continue with Wendy Benjamin symphony none of the subtle and Josh Krauss har Let's talk tech this week Sundar Pichai who is the c.e.o. Of Google testified before the House Judiciary Committee Republicans and Democrats were expressing some rather different concerns about the tech giant financial give us a sense of what brought Mr Peach I before the committee Republicans kind of raised most of the concerns right well he was supposed to have been there before and you know he Google had not appear at a previous hearing and Mr Cha basically faced a lot of heat from from Republicans because they are concerned that the that the search giant is biased against conservatives that they keep on complaining that every time there's a search on the news about Trump and news about the g.o.p. Negative things come up and they and they keep of accusing Google of liberal bias the Google c.e.o. Says that it's very difficult and there are a nonpartisan company and it's very difficult for people for humans basically to manipulate these algorithms that create these searches so in a way of pushback against the Republicans complaints about this but it was a tough and contentious hearing and as they said the c.e.o. Of Google should have been there before other tech giants have have appeared before Congress and and Google had not done it now one of the complaints Josh had to do with what you find when you Google certain terms for example if you know the last one who's a Democratic congresswoman from the Bay Area mentioned that if you google idiots that Donald Trump's name may come up now it's worth noting that some of these searches are contextual based on what you have already searched so I think she said more about herself that she said about the president but there was this concern about the way that Google could affect our public discourse did we learn anything from this well look there was bipartisan opposition or of course scrutiny of. Of the Google c.e.o. I mean you had as Fernando was saying conservatives wondering about their search results the algorithms that are used to find key information and what they wanted but Democrats a lot of liberals were worried that like You Tube which is owned by by Google is promoting the hit material their algorithms actually don't sift out some of the most hateful and contentious material on their Web site and you had a lot of lot of Democrats raising questions about that but big picture I mean this is sort of a familiar scene that we saw earlier in the year with Mark Zuckerberg coming before Congress where you have a lot of 607080 year old members of Congress who don't know a whole lot about the i Phone or about technology and they're trying to score points against the executives but they don't really know a whole lot about what they're talking about in the end up you know when they even have it but they have a very good opportunity to really raise some questions about the need for regulation but they don't seem like they have a good authority about the subject of they're talking about so there's a huge gap between sort of the knowledge needed to regulate and scrutinize these companies and someone like the Google c.e.o. Is frankly able to kind of get away with that scrutiny and I logged out of Google just to see it just it. And it gives me the top story Sundar Pichai had to explain to Congress why googling it it turns a piece it was some of it's contextual to the news and then it just gives me the definition of the word idiot by Merriam Webster It gives me a pronunciation thank you for that. Brain of idiots from truth that you know I mean it's a reflection Kind of us when the in the the fact that they didn't know this is clearly on the minds of some of our listeners Joe tweeted these representatives have no excuse for not having a basic understanding of technology about which they are presuming to legislate their obvious agenda was to prove that the Internet is biased they only demonstrated their lack of competency but one day maybe none of that really matters in the final analysis because the hearing you when you get down to some of the questions it didn't really feel like it was about learning about Google it felt more like it was trying to bring Sundar Pichai out for a public spanking That's exactly right that's what they were doing maybe because they weren't armed with anything more substantive but once again it was a congressional hearing in which there was far more light than heat or heat than light I should say. But what is concerning is what Josh was getting at is that Congress will find a need at some point to regulate to oversee or to question whether they should regulate or oversee the Internet and the companies that run the that provide the Internet searches for us they showed yesterday that they are this week that they are completely unqualified to do that I mean what Steve King did know that i Phone wasn't Google. And they should have this is where congressional staff could be very helpful these congressional staff are generally people my twenty's and thirty's who grew up with the n r net and could help them but right now I don't see how these guys could intelligently regulate this industry I just realized that change by google password I don't remember. Hi I'm Joshua Johnson and you're listening to one essay last year a man named James fields Jr drove into a crowd of anti racism protesters in Charlottesville Virginia he killed a young woman by the name of heather hire the violence he committed near a white supremacist rally lead a jury to recommend life in prison last week that same jury had convicted him of 1st degree murder fields also faces 9 other charges for injuring nearly 40 people before fleeing the scene now Heather Highers mother Susan Breaux spoke yesterday to cnn's Allison Camerata she was asked if the president contacted her after the killing saw that there had been 3 phone calls from the White House during the funeral itself they each sounded a bit increasingly frantic which I thought was odd but. Yet once I heard what he had to say I just said I think he's busy and I'm busy and neither one of us really has time to talk to one another and you know anything I ever I have particularly had to say to him as please think before you speak and that's still your message you still feel that way today. Oh yeah that's Susan bro the mother of heather hire speaking yesterday to cnn's Alison Camerata fit onto I wonder what your senses of what this latest court development means not just for the people who are harmed but for the country I mean Charlottesville was a hot talking point for a very long time yeah well let's you know recapping obviously he was a neo nazi sympathizer and he was sentenced to life in prison plus 419 years for these other 9 charges that you mentioned it is the very sad moment I guess when when the president you know was not able to differentiate and in his speeches as just as. Well Heather or higher as mother you know said that the basically as an advice to the president that he better think before he speaks or or or tweet that you know this basically grew larger This is also this whole big issue right now I would say this culture war over over the Confederacy and I know what to do let's remember all this fight started with the shooting in Charleston by Dylan roof at the church so it's just such a big topic there right now that the president did not help last year when when he gave somewhat of conflict conflicting message to the nation well as you've been getting one quick question I know we're low on time but a question about Michael Cohen Wendy from Richard who wants to know why does Michael Cohen have several months free before going to prison why wasn't he handcuffed and taken immediately to prison as happens to others one convict. I think that has to do with his cooperation in other investigations is that doesn't I think there's still more use for Michael Cohen beyond just the conviction there usually is a time period where you know there's a sentencing date where the person who's convicted has to report to jail but there often is a time period where without a lapse of yeah and as I said earlier Lanny Davis has his lawyer remember let's let's backtrack on this Michael Cohen does not have to report until March to to prison so there is basically a 3 month gap here you know which he can talk more and be able to reduce his sentence if the prosecutors feel it's warranted and it's recommended by the men and if the judge agrees so I think there's a lot more we can find out and he writes Where is the line between campaign contributions and just keeping Trump from looking bad much like lying intent is paramount unless someone said this is a contribution I don't see a criminal offense good question and he will get to some more of your questions like that when we pick up this conversation on Monday feel free to send us more of your questions 855-236-1818 Before we go something front from the into a Web site You Tube's most disliked video used to be the music video for baby by Justin Bieber it's still high up there but now the dubious distinction of the most disliked goes to a highly produced Year in Review tribute made by You Tube Rewind 2018 features popular producers like lives of Koshi and marquee player pop culture memes like baby shark and celebrities like Will Smith and John Oliver You Tube star Marc has Brownlee was also in rewind a video from Brownlee says rewind was fun but these days the site is focusing less on its biggest fans for business reasons then you have Will Smith Trevor Noah John Oliver all not really you to various I mean Will Smith I guess at this point sort of but also not all that really big and 2800 specifically but yet they're all in 20 . 18 percent reason that reason being that that looks pretty good to advertisers You Tube's number one star puti has 76000000 subscribers he was not in the video You Tube and Disney cut ties with him over a video involving an anti semitic prank a campaign to click thumbs down next to rewind has given that more than 10000000 down votes a spokesperson for the site says that this kind of feedback in their words can suck and that summing up in one video is like catching lightning in a bottle thanks to our guest this Friday Josh Krause HAARP political editor for The National Journal Josh thanks for talking to us thanks for having me Wendy Benjamin sin managing editor of McClatchy d.c. 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There I'm Joshua Johnson today I want to say it's the Friday news round up America is supporting the Saudis fight in Yemen but senators have voted to end that support are we any closer to ending this war 2 major power struggles in Europe Britain's prime minister and France's president both survive no confidence votes how will to resume a and a manuel McCall move forward also tension builds over the Chinese tech company the way and TIME's Person of the year makes a statement about the freedom of press around the world share your thoughts about this week's news comments on our Facebook page or tweet us one and. Live from n.p.r. News in Washington I'm Corba Coleman president from former lawyer Michael Cohen is pushing back against his former boss as N.P.R.'s Ryan Lucas reports Cohen says the president is lying about hush money payments made to 2 women who allege they had affairs with Trump Cohen says in an interview with A.B.C.'s George Stephanopoulos that trump directed him to arrange the payments in order to buy the women silence the president says he never told Cohen to do anything wrong and that Cohen acted on his own accord Cohen says that's not true I don't think there's anybody that believes that for some nothing at the Trump Organization was ever done a less it was wrong for Mr Trump Cohen says he merely review the documents related to the payments to protect trump the idea was to prevent news of the legit affairs from damaging from selection chances Cohen says he knew the hush money payments were wrong and he adds that Trump knew they were wrong as well Ryan Lucas n.p.r. 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