And we grew up in old town I grew up in a community where I you know our family had a group of pickers that were always around and I just happen to be the only 7 or 8 year old kid there with a bunch of 70 year old people and it's kind off kind of feel like we were each of those people in our own communities we were the young up and comers if you look at almost skipped a generation on my my parents' age they didn't really play too much better than their parents' age all played. So I think for a lot of us we all grew up in it and then once we got to Nashville. It actually I mean I've we've all been there a close 10 years if not more of the years come August so clear and ever we 1st got there when we 1st got there I don't think any of us really knew about an old time scene and we we discovered that there was a a Wednesday night pick a thing that happened for all time at a place called. 5 Spot and we ended up all on our own because we loved old time coming there and then met each other and became friends and that's where a lot of this will she started. Are sets can vary a lot depending on where we are where we just played this week in Iran for us and Kentucky use a pretty wild as younger crowd. It's a bit more while the revised probably a little more lubricated from alcohol is better is when we're playing and and and so it can go from quite rowdy which really does kind of embody some are that punk rock scene there was a moment there were people on stage that he actually jumped it was about to jump off the stage and then instead we just had about 40 people climb up onto the stage with us. Yeah so you know sometimes it definitely goes that direction but we do what we love it though I mean one thing is very important for us 100 percent is. Not speak for myself here but I. Like growing up in the old time world there's a lot of preservation that goes on and people want to of course carry on tradition which we believe in a 1000 percent but we also tend to think about this music as being music that was about having a great time after you'd worked hard and come home let off a little steam drink a little shine or whatever have a good time and it's 11 o'clock barn dance and music sort of thing. Oh. Oh oh there's gold another gold mole Oh let me go mama was cut in the head for the top of this mole. But I think the popularity of this music is coming back around for the you know millennia old and younger but I thought it was just in the last couple of years really but I will say this I do feel like we've we're actually talking about we're traveling on the road not too long ago and there is a lot of interesting dynamic between really old time and the bluegrass world and the slightly more conservative bluegrass world one thing that is very punk rock in my opinion about a lot of these old time Tunes is the lyrical content is pretty rowdy we're talking about drinking and be in the locked up in jail and even in all sorts of scandalous stuff which is pretty rowdy in my opinion you know it's not necessarily that gospel approach that a lot of the bluegrass So you know you're never going to see us on stage and blazers and ties that's you know and so. I think. That was of the hour with the funnier. If. I don't know when it would last long we need to get us some runs for us right. Some Dutch gold get gold gold nobody. Thank you so for us it's important it's got energy and it doesn't feel like it's behind glass and kind of this library old you know it's a good term because I think Tony's Smithsonian exactly because we if we want to we or one of the few old time bands on the of that if we want to play it straight traditional we can and we love care and all the tradition the songs that way but if we want to get rowdy or with it we can too and it seems like we connect with a lot of folks that way in terms of just trying to bring a lot of energy and making sure there was a good time. But . That was the hog slop string band from Nashville Tennessee playing some of their high energy old time music they started that set with train 45 followed by sugar in the gourd policeman nobody's business and they finished up with rebel rate you'll be hearing a lot more from the hog slop string band on today's show but after this short break I'm going to head down to the vault for a visit with young Mark Jones this is Ozark Highlands radio. Robert Muller reveals more about his investigation into whether the tram campaign colluded with Russia a former federal prosecutor will give us a read out of Miller's latest findings and what they say about where the special council is headed plus the significance of former f.b.i. Director James Coney's closed door testimony on Capitol Hill that's next time on All Things Considered from n.p.r. News this afternoon at 4 o'clock on your connection for news a.s.u. . Underwriting support for Kate a.s.u. Is provided by the Northeast Arkansas bluegrass Association promoting bluegrass music in our region the Association posted an open jam session every Thursday night at 7 o'clock at the American Legion building at 3414 Dan Ave in Jonesboro additional information is available on Facebook at ne Arkansas bluegrass. Welcome back to Ozark Highlands radio once again this time in our program to have a visit with Mark Jones down in the vault he's the guy that keeps track of all of our music let's go see him now. Hello Mark hide Dave Herr Yeah I'm doing pretty good you Ok I am House lying Zone the farm how to cure ploy things are just peachy just peachy everything's fine and good and yeah the cows are grown in the chickens or cluck and no complaints glad of that hey you know it's the remembering the other day that for many years in November after the regular season had closed here at the Ozark folk center we used to have a contest here this big McConnell test big must stand in for the Society for the preservation of bluegrass music in America those folks would come in and rent the auditorium for a weekend and have a big fiddle contest Do you have any recordings of their I sure do Dave I've got as big contests done back in 1985 and now there's some awful good thing had a line on it you know who got on here well actually young lady that you might recognize her name she came here in Played it is 3rd Alcon terrace Miss Allison corral a some Crouse everybody's heard of Alice in Green Yeah and she danced a tune called gardenia wall so I'd like to hear there are a loud ploy. Wow that was Alison Krauss and you know I got to figure she would have been 14 or 15 years old at that time I think shows. Holy cow what a fiddle player she is great fiddle player where she could sure play the double stops in that thing couldn't she she displayed a river this far as I could tell it was perfect perfect you know back in the day back at that time a lot of folks showed up here for the contest that really didn't have a big name yet like Allison and I think Mark O'Connor played in those days too when he was just a kid I think so yeah you know I heard somebody say one time before Alison Krauss If you put all the bluegrass musicians on one side of the road and put the general public on the other side of the road the general public would say Who's them gomers and after Allison Krauss you could put all of bluegrass people on one side of the road in the general public on the other side of the road in that folks would say who's all them gomers with Alison Krauss Yeah that's true she may she made a big name for bluegrass musicians she sure did well Mark thanks a lot it's been good to see you this week good to see you today I'll see you again . Upon forming is a pick up square dance band in the summer of 2009 the Hawks top string band has since become one of the most sought after old time string bands with their rollicking repertoire heavily based on Georgia and Middle Tennessee fiddle tunes these boys are provided entertainment for fashion shows political conventions and whiskey distilleries as well as countless weddings festivals and soirees Let's listen to a few more of their high energy teens. Who yeh . A lot of the tunes come to the table from Georgia string bands or Tennessee string me and sword you know I'm somebody old folks from the 2nd one if you're new to the new version of terms but I would say absolutely Kev and Dan both of whom. Quite the extensive understanding and catalog of all old times in that they both feel like you both have an affinity for Pickle and we can't even remember the titles of his own staff in time we just know how they sound but we do we obviously all the old time stuff that we know that we do know and we kind of for a long time our angels were kind of just However we decided to let them come down and there was an all thought in it and we might have taken some of the arrangements from bands like skilled workers or certain certain groups that we really loved and admired that's all shifted a good bit recently as well we have been writing some. So music on our own that we know is that right but. Also right now original songs of birds the table for us and . The it. To There's been a huge shift obviously from physical C.D.'s fails to digital releases and Spotify and things of this nature are either downloads or listening just streaming. But I've never taken any any offense to that now a lot of my friends are older that I've been in the business a long time and it's frustrating for them because I used to make a lot of money in that Jag disappeared now for me my. Biggest load is being on a stage in front of people so if that income comes in from hard ticket sales meaning you need to go on the road playoff that no problem with that I enjoy playing and people want to listen for free we all grew up in a generation where we never really had to pay for music in any way so I'm fine to give it away as long as we have the opportunity and from people do that I. Think people want to come out and see more and more people want to come out and see folks playing this love musician never going to die I know it will be specially to gradients and things that get it into a very good age so it's something you can get rid of a record it's a very different dynamic when a crowd comes to stand and stare at a band that's very different from everyone in the entire place moving together it along with a band that's at all of the thing. I To our Let me ask you what. Was it. About. This group in particular it's very unique in the sense that we're all just good friends who play music together and it's a blessing that we have some momentum and some. Opportunity to go and play and to build what we do kind of based off that this was never a band where we all sat down around a table and said how can we make this happen. We have just always focused on having a good time playing music together and things of kind of naturally unfolded which is great but we've had some opportunities that we haven't said yes to because we also do like the opportunity to control our own destiny into that. And you're absolutely right the industry has changed enough that you can go out and do your own thing and fund everything yourself and keep your ownership which is a really smart or smart way to get around you know actually there's a lot of members of this band that have worked in the music industry and that Arens of it there is that in we and we know our way around so even though we're just an old timer out event band we're pretty thoughtful about the way that we try to move forward and to build the stuff. For more hot tunes from the hog slop string band in that set they played fortune followed by greasy coat Johnson's mule and 1000000000 the low ground after this break will be visited by a historian friend Dr Brooks Blevins who will continue his piece on elk in the Ozarks You're listening to Ozark Highlands radio tomorrow's down home harmonies will feature new music for the holiday season from Tim Crouch Dalian Vincent and a brand new band called morrow Monroe will also hear recent bluegrass hits by the pole ramblin boys a special consensus and Chris Jones classic recordings from Bill Monroe and Carl story and will give the bluegrass treatment to the who Bob Dylan and Lefty Frizzell downhome harmonies is coming up at noon tomorrow on Cape May as you. Last week on Car Talk we demonstrated our usual sensitivity to callers with serious car problems I have a p.b.s. Station wagon and by the time that I know I am. Going to do 90000 miles on it is it really money and if yes. I am circular you. Don't miss the fun this week join us for the best of car talk this afternoon at 3 o'clock. Welcome back those are Collins Radio Dr Brooks Blevins has taught history and folklore at several of our colleges and universities and is now our current guest host Piers Brooks now it's almost never a good idea to adopt a wild animal and raise it as a pet but that hasn't stopped a lot of people from doing it in the old days it was an unheard of for folks to kill a Sal bear and take a cub home for the kids to play with deer were popular objects of domestication and there's at least one story in which a wild animal turned pet may just have saved the lives of a family of humans in the old Ozarks according to a story related to Ozark story collector sagas Turnbow it was in the early 18 hundreds somewhere on Crooked Creek in north central Arkansas all that a family by the name of qazi called a buffalo calf and decided to rear it like they would any other member of the bovine family keeping it tied to a stake behind the log else one evening when the patriarch was away on a hunt his wife and small children received an unsolicited visit from a hungry black bear the bear forced its way into the cabins one room and ransacked the place while Mrs Kizzy and the kids cowered beneath the puncheon floor in a tiny cellar at the very moment that Oberlin discovered the trap door and began tugging against most desperate attempts to keep it shut the tantalizing ball of the young buffalo penetrated the log walls and pricked the bear's ears some time later his meal of fresh buffalo beef consumed the bear disappeared into the cane thicket whence he came. And it has these survived to embellish the encounter so goes the story and I'm certain the last feller who taught it was convinced that was the gospel truth in this 2nd part of our series on wildlife we'll head back to the otos arcs to take a look at our sis Amerikana us the Black Bear bears were common in the Ozarks when the 1st American settlers made their way into the heart of the region in the early 18th hundreds This was especially true in the rugged Boston mountains and White River hills of northern Arkansas all and Arkansas carried the nickname the bear state into the 20th century bear meat especially when cooked by someone who knew how to do it was considered a delicacy and bears were central to the frontier economy on his visit to the Ozarks in $1818.00 Henry Rowe Schoolcraft observed that traders paid a $1.50 for a full bare hide 6 times as much as for a deer hide only $0.50 less than a beaver pelt the bear's fat was even more valuable Americans in those days used this fat or grease as it was usually called for allotting oil hair jail and even insect repellent at one time there was a bear fat rendering plant on White River at about the state line between Missouri and Arkansas law in fact the most popular explanation for how the little town of old trough on the lower White River got its name involves the old bear fat rendering business the trough sore hollowed out logs that bare hundreds used to hold the bear oil were carried down stream during high waters and often washed ashore in the wide bottoms where the river came rushing out of the hills and into the flatlands old trough is located in just such a place in the otos arks perhaps no character was more renowned than the bear hunter my own 3rd great grandfather and his brother Andrew and Blair Walker were memorialized in regional or as great in great big bear hunters pretty much the only thing we know about him today the boldest bear hunters and perhaps the most fool. Harty were known to follow a fleeing bear into a narrow cave with only a knife to claim their prey others perfected the art of the so-called still hunt sneaking up on a bear scratching through leaves in search of Mast the bear and bear hunter made their way into the region's literary record as well German Explorer Friedrich Decker wrote about his close call with a wounded broom in the Boston mountains of Madison County Arkansas 842 and about his trusty dog named bears grease humorist c.f.m. No one's fictional alter ego Pete Whetstone tussle with a bear more than once as did Jim dog it the hunter hero of the era as most famous short story the big bear of Arkansas all more than half a century later Albert Bigelow pains children story Arkansas all bear a tale of fanciful adventure made peace between man and beast in this classic a boy named Bossi focus and a talking fiddle playing bear name to ratio become close friends and travel the country entertaining audiences with the ratios lively version of the old tune Arkansas traveler but real bears were practically gone from the Ozarks by the time pains book entertain children around the turn of the 20th century old Isaac Coonrod wishin of Newton County Arkansas and later claimed to have helped kill the last known black bear in those mountains in 885 today black bears roamed the hills of the Ozarks Once again thanks to the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission which began restocking remote places like Newton County and 959 you may just spot one on your next drive to the Ozark folk Center here in Mountain View Unfortunately we don't have a recording of her ratio the bear playing his favorite fiddle tune but here's a good replacement will let the late Mulkey can't from shark County Arkansas law take us out with his rendition of Arkansas traveller from an old recording in the John Quincy. Wolf folklore collection courtesy of Divine Comedy. As a lover of old time southern mountain music of all kinds it does my heart good to see young fellows like the hog slop string band keeping this great music alive after all that's our mission here at the Ozark folks that are state park let's go back down to the stage for a few more tunes from these guys. Then. You know I come from a very different. Other place musically as well more of the traditional songwriting world you know where you got verses and recourses and choruses and where it isn't very strong. And all that sort of thing and and is exciting to play if you're doing it the right way so we have shifted some of what we're doing just recently to taking a lot of these old town tunes that are a structure that 2nd a part and be part or are 3 parts in there and actually applying that to more of a traditional singing tune approach because it's nice as a listener I think least for myself to be able to sing along with songs and get the content of the. Choruses or something nice to have sometimes and always old time songs you can't really spot what courses you know so we might take a little time verses and then turn him into tunes with courses or shift one thing to make it the chorus and then try to paint that picture around you know arrangements a big part of it and I think especially with old time music. Finding unique arrangements that really work and function in a lot of different settings as we're focused on. Cut. Oh oh. Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh. Oh. That. Was. Old time such a generic generic term nobody really knows what it means and more and there are bands that may be considered to have an old time feel and really all they have is somebody with a banjo on stage were at and that makes them all the time all the sudden you know I mean obviously there are groups like Mumford and Sons and these kinds of groups that kind of maybe hints at what we do know obviously. I'm just going say it we're not a huge fan of that kind of music but in some ways it's nice that opens the door to a larger crowd and it definitely has something to do with younger people being more interested in traditional instruments you know that banjos and fiddles and washtubs and things like that on stage. Which is great that we have the opportunity to do that we're our hope is that we can stick to a lot of this tradition and just through some of these arrangement things we're talking about and through kind of making them our own and allow this music to have some more success and be more noticed by our peers and the millennial and you know the groups you know but still actually have our integrity and have the entire Is songs be there. It's nothing you've been listening to some high energy music from the national based fog slop string band they started that set with their own version of a more contemporary song I want to dance with you then play the more traditional song I don't love nobody then finished up with a rollicking medley of crow black chicken and John Brown's dream I hope you enjoyed this week's show there's nothing like some good hot fiddle tunes to make your day seem a little brighter for more information about us and listen to pass shows you can find us on the Web It shows our Carlin's Radio dot com and we'd appreciate it if you'd like us on Facebook to pros our cameras Radio this is Dave Smith but everybody knows dark Highlands radio is produced by Jeff Glover executive producer is Deron Dorton additional support for this program comes from the committee of $100.00 proudly supporting the Ozark folk center state park since 1974 Arkansas state parks with 52 unique reasons to visit the natural state on the web at Arkansas State Parks dot com And by stone bank with deep roots in Mountain View and a deep respect for those who preserve our heritage more information about what it means to bank Balder is it stone Bank dot com for information on upcoming shows and events we're on the Web It was our Kyle and Radio dot com Until next time I'm Donna Farrar. 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