Site mint here in I'm just loving it when you watch a game or you in your living room are you in your kitchen are you screaming at you having a most oh no you do I know what he watch again I am up running routes. I'm going to bring him back a lot of memories and all that but yeah you know I watch the game and I still support the players and I want them to do well and you know it's hard for me though because actually guys have playful with 20 years not steal love the game of football now would love to get back on the football field again you know it was that it was my playground it was something that I really just love to do in just entertaining you guys if you guys walked away from next day you know on a given day and you say wow we just witnessed something that was special you know and then I felt like I had done my job Ok serious question now could you really if someone said of Jed York comes in and says we need you know how far away could not everybody was what did I just say. Yes. Do I have to prove it to you you want to you want to race. We can go to that hill and send Carlos right now yeah Joe infamous he'll let's go do it. Day in the life now when you're not dreaming about coming back into the n.f.l. You're a busy guy I know you're very busy we're going to talk about this new great book that you just wrote co-wrote here but just a day in the life for what you're doing now so I know you're busy you know what is just ahead on working on my brand. Really trying to stay relevant I like to challenge myself and that's why you know I wrote a new book and also I have a energy drink coming out and guess what the name of the energy drink is. Go for you. But the greatest of all time is not just for athletes is for what you guys do too in your profession you can be the greatest of all time so I was asked this doing the Super Bowl last year who still greatest of all time I am like Ok I'm sure they want me to say Montana Tom Brady all of these guys I would never say myself but it was like Ok and I thought about it and I think I came up with you know a very good answer because you know it's like a teacher a doctor a lawyer a fireman you know. Their goals. Exactly and number 80 in the n.f.l. . Let's get into your wardrobe because that's always important to me Ok it's not important me actually it's very important to you because I know as a player you were meticulous in fact you ticked off a lot of trainers of the $49.00 ers you would roll in and they would have to try out all these pass because they had to be perfect so now we're all in with and really you have 3 Super Bowl rings but what are you wearing this is the this is my Pro Football Hall of Famer. Of the elite. And. I feel very fortunate because you know I can wake up and I can look in my safe enough say Ok which one I'm aware today. Which is which is pretty cool you know I'm Sam but you guys inspired. You know to be champions that that's the most important thing and if we lost a playoff game or you if we didn't get to the playoffs it was devastation here in the Bay Area we all went through it together and the new generation of guys nice a little bit different you know they lose a game or to lose a playoff game or Super Bowl it is just you know it goes away but it was just something I could never forget you know it was stay with me till the next season it was hard it was frustrating there's that phrase stop and smell the roses I don't think you ever did for a long time I couldn't do it and I had a coast to tell me he said you know what you need to you need smell the roses you know you know I have blinders on guys when I was on a football feel I wanted everything to be perfect the way I ran my routes the way I caught the football if I scored a touchdown I wanted to look professional. I remember. My 1st season. Trying to be a little creative. I decided to dance a little bit. A little bit myself on family say you what you know what you look so stupid. Just hand the ball back to the official in just be a professional you talk about that drive to succeed that's an anything and now in all of our careers in all of our 4 walks of life what price did you pay them because that's a steep price that's a steep thing that you did that you didn't take a vacation I don't know what hearing you're playing years at all well because I felt I owed it to you guys to always be at my best when I was on the football field if you guys page your hard earned money I want to you know you do see something exceptional on a given day so you have to sacrifice and you know for. First 5 years or something like that I was just working on my craft I I wanted to be well I didn't just want to be one of the greatest football players to play the game and and you know it's kind of hard Karen his head around at times. But us to today they voted me in the 100 years think about this number one that's crazy. And I remember right I remember this. Dwight Carr he told me he said you know what you're going to be number 11 day. And while. I'm no one and it's interesting because I've known you behind the scenes you are not that guy you don't celebrate you don't talk about yourself you always talk about your team and it's interesting that finally now it's like you know what that that's where you are in history that's how you're regarded as the greatest of all time in the 2nd you know I got word of that. Announcement and stuff like that pointed up to the sky to Dwight Clark because I remember when I 1st came in guys this got took me on the his wing and he knew I was coming in. To take a take a job even Freddie Solomon but you know it was a tradition for it of San Francisco 49 er's to pass that torch on and I remember Dwight working with me right running do one what I had to do on the football field but also I would watch him. Off the football field because you can't just you know be a professional on a football field when you use someone else off the football field is the way you conduct yourself is the way you represent the team and then just watching those guys it was fantastic and it's pretty incredible Yeah let's talk about this book so you're heading out at home and Randy Williams the coauthor guy calls you up and says Jerry let's do a book and your responses called me up to the hate list to a book I told him no. I said we just did 50 years for the moment the bestseller you know I'm good but then he challenged me. And he said Ok So let's do it and that's how we came up with America's game the n.f.l. 100 but I feel this book is very educational and we got great coaches November already Johnny Unitas you know the integration of blacks into the n.f.l. . The Great Depression World War 2 So it's a very educational book in fact I read it and it just feels like it's almost like a textbook but not in a boring way but it's almost like you can refer back to this book and learn about the n.f.l. And in my career I've known so much about the n.f.l. I worked for the n.f.l. For 5 years and I'm reading this book and there's so many things that open my eyes it was fascinating I didn't know the early parts of the n.f.l. Or football not even the n.f.l. That late 1000 hundreds it was a college game yet it was so violent that in the early 1900 s. President Roosevelt Teddy Roosevelt had to step in and say we're banning football unless you shape up here and make this a safer sport this is some fast it's amazing research in this book and Randy Williams You know what he did. Because my job is you know it's like when you write in a book you know there's going to be some quotes about you you know we're going to have to sit down and talk but you know reaching out to people you know getting the info and stuff like that but you know he did a fantastic job you know put in the all that together from the book we quote fractured skulls in that internal bleeding lead the public outcry to allow the sport this was in the late 1900 and the early 1900 I am looking at that and now in 202019 there is also some of that in terms of the head injury the public outcry and the n.f.l. Is changing the way they changing enough I think they are you know I think players are more protect. Now and then when I played when I played you know you had. The ball was not even coming your way you were being hit on the back side you know it was very physical you had to fight down feel you know to. To make plays also make catches but that was something that I love doing in football to me was like a gladiator sport that's that's what it's all about when those helmet collided on Monday night football that was it it was time it was time to do battle now now it's a little bit different you know you they protect the quarterbacks you can't deliver a blow. Upside the head or anything like that so yeah I think he's doing a great job how much as you learn about the game writing this book in terms of I think back in the day it was 3 downs not even 4 downs touchdowns were 4 points not 6 points I mean there's a lot of growth here and yeah you don't want but I think on when he needed just one down. That's all. You remember Joe a disciplined Joe told me just say look you added like 5 more years on to my career series because you all knew he could drop back 3 steps get rid of ball. And I could go 95 yards to something like that so yeah it was a lot of fun. You bring up Joe Montana and around here and around the country he's so celebrated We know he was cool Mahato But what something that he did in the huddle that still stands out to you in terms of leadership or just something funny has to do no Joe's Joe was a prankster. I mean you know he would put like Tiger Balm and jocks and all that to . Think about destination on a football field. So he was that you know he was just that type of guy but his composure and and you know his energy it was so positive if we had time 1 o'clock we knew that we could move the ball down feel and win a football game just like Super Bowl 23 with about 3 minutes 10 seconds left in the game guys we got the greatest quarterback ever we just have to execute and. Move the ball downfield and win a Super Bowl and that was against the Cincinnati Bengals the 2nd time the Niners play the bangles and you came down and that was the drive you marched on the field and won that game people don't realize to do in this season we played them also during the season and and we won right at the end with a Hail Mary and I remember Bill Walsh he was so excited he was like a little kid he was skipping off to feel. Ready to borrow already had went to the locker room he was he was ready to chew us out in any was that 12th man and he could be really mean guy some serious that's a different kind of talk yeah yeah but you know so he I went to the locker room and I remember Joe threw the ball up and I went up in attack and football. Emitting air and we won that game in the last seconds and it was just it was a success a thing you compare now as your career went on from Joe Montana to Steve Young you're dealing with 2 Hall of Fame quarterbacks here what was the difference the demeanor on the sidelines and team I mean I made enough money both those guys no good. You know it's not like you didn't even know it right that you know him call him up and call them up but Steve Steve had a different you know because the was a lefty spin on the ball it was different and also Steve was a running quarterback so he was heard in my percentages. So you know I'm like Ok See we got to have a tone we're going to talk I need you to stay in the pocket. And just throw the ball downfield that's all you have to do but you know he eventually had the highest passer rating he became more of a pocket passer so he worked on his craft in and I think I score. A touchdown someone yeah you know so it was all because of practice repetition stuff like that and and that was something that we did after practice just get on the same page it was important and if the same chemistry we had with Joe I could look at Joe because as a receiver you got to come to the line of scrimmage you have to read the defense just like the quarterback you've got to know exactly what's happening on the football field I know of his May and I know it was a zone if you cover me one on one is no way you going to cover me one on one you already defeat it. And I knew that Joe was going to deliver the football r.c. Was going to deliver football so you they have to identify you're on one on one and you have to identify and then yeah oh yeah exactly and if they didn't throw me the ball I would give them the look. What look like that that. And they knew they had to give me the football. Ok I'm just going to. Let the nerd out a little bit here what's your favorite play call what's the call you know is it x. 14 slash the Call My favorite play was. 24 razor razor that means that I'm going to the polls is man to man and when I run this route guys is just like doing the dance I have done this over and over do in practice I noted the defensive back his pick is playing me one on one I want to get as close as possible to that the fence and back before I go to the post I want to hear his heartbeat I want to get that close because I know if I get that close once I go to the polls he can't recover so that was something that we always worked on and you quarterbacks and see it yes yeah he knows Joel through c. Because every member a lot of plays. Browns record Monday Night Football at Candlestick Park the 1st touchdown it was suppose Steve Young was the quarterback you know Super Bowl $24.00 Joe threw me a pose corner pose for a test oh so all of those plays that you know I remember those plays just like it was yesterday in the book you talk about your rewrite about your routine and how meticulous you were and that no uniform day uniform had to be perfect. I mean game day I feel you have to dress a certain way to play well. My shoes had to be brand new shoes I had to have nice white socks the pants Now here's a pair I might go through like maybe 4 or 5 pair pairs you know with the trainers they all knew you know but they had bets going on you know they you know the trainers got bets going on and it's like I would try on the pants and do all that in then the one that I feel comfortable in I would go with that one but I just feel you had to look a certain way to play well and your weight not 192 pounds but 191 well if I was if if my weight is if I wanted to play at 190 if I go to the stadium early and I'm 192 I'm going to jump on the bike artist stairmaster and get down to my weight my teammates would come to the stadium they look at me like I'm crazy that they would if Jerry doing he's already sweating. But it was just something that I needed to do I never could eat on game day I could never do it to say there was a Monday Night Football 6 pm kickoff back in the day I can do it. The Super Bowl I couldn't do it because I wanted I wanted to be at my best I wanted to be hungry that was important everything everything was important to me because well just to just say this it meant something to me every time I stepped on the football field I never took it for granted anything like that I wanted to win and yeah it was it was tough when we loss. So so you're doing intermittent fasting before it was such a thing yeah yeah we're going to stay I'm up with this you know just work those extra pounds off to get down to my weight. One of the chapters that stood out to me here and I think in the book I'm just so aside from the book too is just the race relations and what the n.f.l. Has gone through and continues to go through you came up when there was black quarterbacks intermittently but really it was as the book says seemingly off limits for decades to have a black quarterback and really Doug Williams became that guy to to shatter in the early 1980 s. To win a Super Bowl you know you had black quarterbacks but they would get converted over to Reese being a receiver or something like that and you know it's much better today. But at that point jump in here to take you off to that upset you or was that just kind of the way it was I think it was just the way it was I was born in Mississippi guys you know there's a lot of racism in Mississippi and that was something my parents always told me like you know treat people the way you want to be treated so I don't use that as an excuse you know when I stepped on the football field and stuff like that I was going to bring you my Bess and that's all I could do you know if I practice a certain way and I perform a certain way and and if you. You have something against that you know that's your problem but I was going to leave everything on the field and stuff like that so I didn't use that you know I was in this new singing thing pretty amazing just to see nowadays we saw on Monday that football Russell Wilson Patrick the homes of Mar Jackson and yes I was on the field I would hit him I would tackle him but he can't he can't be just running around the running around the stadium like that you know. Did you guys did you guys see that torch thing in. He's a good quarterback and I had opportunity I was in Arizona today we're getting ready to play the Cardinals and Larry Fitzgerald you know he. He just so passed Tony Gonzalez to get into that number 2 slot you know he's right behind me I know is that the ways that we. Believe me I you know yeah I'm looking over my shoulder just a little bit but you know doing warmups Iraj this is this is fun because. Russell Wilson and his receivers you know they were warming up and stuff like that and also I think I want to cast a vote for Russell was I'm in a suit tennis shoes and I start running rows and he's looking at me like how can you still do that. 20 years and I'm talking while I'm. Full bore I'm going. And I'm catching a ball and I'm running to the end zone and stuff like that in you know it was you know it was a nice moment because we got a chance to connect just a little bit because I wanted I have always wanted to catch a ball from him and I think he had always wanted to throw me a football so it was pretty well yeah. If you get what you asked for you'll be back in the league so you'll be good. Just a couple hours ago actually calling capper Nick saying that he will have a workout in a few days and all n.f.l. Teams are invited Will n.f.l. Teams go to Las Vegas you know Leno right it's in Atlanta Yeah you know I think a couple teams will go all of them or none of them I don't know I don't know I you know I think Collin kept calling Cabinet I think he's been offered a couple jobs as a backup but he doesn't want to be a backup and you know he did great things here with Harbaugh But you know. The lead import of his career he started to taper off so maybe that was that that was what he left you know and I think you know hopefully he can get another opportunity so I got the business of the n.f.l. And the you are all businessmen and businesswomen that work for the league and in the Bay Area around the country we're talk about relocation of franchises you are also a very proud member of the Oakland Raiders you helped lead that team of the Super Bowl is that painstaking as a break your heart to see the Raiders last page of the community you know did you know what is going to do today community. I think with. Las Vegas they offered so much money but it's like these owners are making so much money guys it's crazy I mean ticket prices down gone up in everything in I just felt really bad for the city I'm a former Chargers employee and it rips my heart out to see the Chargers leave San Diego and in l.a. No one really cares about them so I see a large there are so many teams in l.a. You know you got the Lakers you've got the Clippers you've got the Rams Chargers all of that in and it's just going to be empty over there in Oakland guys when you think about it you know no football there's not going to be a football team over there how special is Al Davis because he brought you over and that was a monumental decision for Jerry Rice the 40 niners legend to cross the bay and goal for to Oakland and play for the Raiders Yeah you know guys I never wanted to leave San Francisco be honest with you guys but I still have football in me and I still loved it and and I decided to go to Oakland and Jon Gruden he said Well Jerry do you want to come to Oakland you know and cats like 80 balls or something like that and I want to Oakland had a great season and went back to the Pro Bowl that year and we had the opportunity also to go to a Super Bowl it was just unfortunate that Jon Gruden. Al Davis guy really him and sent him to Tampa Bay Jon Gruden knew everything about. The Oakland Raiders he knew all about the reports and I was at the game today did they know the routes you're running before you ran it you know pretty much but think about this guys we had a game plan we had 2 of the best running backs we were going to pound that football they didn't have the answer for that running game but we didn't know that our starting center would be found in Mexico. On a day in a ditch. Think about this Ok you wake up the next day and you've got all of this going to go on now you've got the 2nd string center which he didn't get that many reps doing a week Sol we had to completely change our game plan and like I said Jon Gruden knew everything about Rich Gannon his Tennessee and I remember John Lynch you know after going back watching the film it took me a while to go back and watch the f.e.m. Guys you know because we lost that Super Bowl I was so accustomed to win a Super Bowls but I think by losing the Super Bowl it taught me more than winning you know because now you still have to be a professional you have to deal with family members you've got to still deal with the media in all that and I remember after losing that game I went back to my room in a set read on a bit and I cried like a baby because I wanted to win a Super Bowl for timbre Well you know because Tim and I we had such a great relationship when we came up short but still it's just taught me that you still have to have to be a professional even when you know when you don't win. I never knew that. You were listening to a broadcast of any forum and innovation lot of the Commonwealth Club support our radio broadcast and find out about upcoming events that you can see live in San Francisco and in Forum. This week we talk to 3 time Super Bowl champion Pro Football Hall of Famer Jerry Rice who's in conversation with n.b.c. News Bay Area anchor. With a lot of questions from the audience or member keep him coming here let's start with this really interesting nature or nurture the eternal question in your opinion what portion of your success was genetic and what portion was devotional your hard work ethic. All of it was hard work. Was not the most gifted athlete as you know you look at Randy mauls you look at all these Calvin Johnson I mean these guys are like 65 you know they run like a 42 they could Al jump anyone I had to work everything in that that really I think separated me because I had to work it and I was going to put the time in so you know just working on my craft in trying to make myself a better receiver but you know for those of you I was not the most talented and for those of you don't know Jerry didn't go to Notre Dame or Alabama or u.s.c. . It was Mississippi Valley does it have a value Yeah yeah and how did Bill Walsh find you he didn't go out to look for it now Bill was they were in New Orleans to play the New Orleans Saints and you know normally they get in that Friday so he was flicking the channel and he noticed me running across the television we had played the game as Sarah day and he said it got you know just running away from people catching the ball you know knowledge in the ball get into my body or anything like that using my hands and doing all that so he goes back to his scouting department say hey we need to look at that guy Jerry Rice said Mr Valley State University. And so they did their research then what happened during the draft because Roger I was in Mississippi with my brother his wife my brother his wife and one camera guy and that was it that was it there was nobody else there was like a 3 room apartment and and San Francisco traded with the New England Patriots traded down to get you to the 16th spot and I get the call from the greatest coach ever he said we're going to make you the 16th player. In the giraffe and off the whole. You know I get a chance to meet the legend Joe Montana. The Barlow all you know all the great players you know Dwight Clark all these great guys so that's how it all of that went down and that's the ill you saw like I still have to pinch myself today because I got the opportunity to really live a dream you know because. I was one of those guys that felt like I never really looked out for down the road because I knew the most important thing for me was education because you know a lot of players don't get the opportunity to play in the n.f.l. So you got to get your education in prepared a right way and then I got a chance to live a dream about plan you know for the greatest city ever San Francisco you got a great enthusiasm for the game in general do. I believe Coleman in Cupertino What do you think about kids spending a lot of time in sports training but only a certain percentage of the time or only a certain percentage of kids that actually turned pro should kids spend more time in other activities that help a call that yes something I did for the. You know I. Did a commercial for him and I said a lot of players not going to get a chance to play professional football they're not going to be able to put on a gold jacket so you have to prepare to right away you know get your education that's the most important thing and also with kids now would be n.f.l. Is trying to do is get kids out so they can be active for 2 hours get them away from you know the computer or you know whatever their plan will get them outside so they can be active it's interest now I have a 10 year old son and you see all the parents in the Bay area across the country coaching them up sonny and all these club teams baseball soccer football basketball whatever there's so much intensity around sports for you it's because to get into college. The thing is I think a lot of parents try to live their dream through their kids. And the majority of time when you do that it doesn't work out. So you know as I see it all the time when my son when my son play football I was just a fan you know I would go and support him and just watch him in just root him on now if he asked me hey dad you know because he played a receiver also he would what do you think about this route maybe I should have ran it this way or something like that yeah. That's when I you know would become a coach but the majority of the time I'm just there as a parent you know just to support him from Christine and Mark from Boston and you might have answered this but maybe not hardest professional moment and how did you rebound when I tore my a.c.l. Him seal and trying to bounce back from that and I still I still haven't gotten a apology from one cell that was in Temple Bay opening opening day of the season I live on a reversed play you know he grabbed my face mask and he pulled me back with backwards and I could watch my need just get away but you got to think about this you know I pretty much feel like I was invincible the way I train the way I got rated for the season and stuff like that but now all of a sudden I'm dealing with some adversity it's how you respond and I fought my way back in and I think I remember Joe I think Joe was getting his jersey retired in and I picked that game a comeback. That's a game I picked back out of respect to him not to take some some of the. You know attention away from him but I just felt like I wanted to come back to an egg aimed just because of Joe and what we have a compass speaking accomplishments you play for Bill Walsh there's also some amazing coaches out there obviously Vince Lombardi Bill Bell what Shaq you know Jon Gruden across the bay What other coach would you like to play for that you didn't play for the history of the n.f.l. Who would you like to play for. Vince Lombardi. What would that have felt like to play for him and I believe Bill Walsh is one of the greatest coaches ever to coach but he was not only a coach to me he was like a father to me because he gave me an opportunity to live a dream and I would have ran through a brick wall for that guy because to have the opportunity to come here to San Francisco like I said you know the greatest fans the greatest owner me the legacy you know it's just something I'll never forget is it hard for the current ownership that's the York family to live up to what he did because it's almost like an unfair comparison yes yes it's hard for me. It's really difficult because we were all all about family I mean it was like it was like live and die together and in the new generation of guys I don't know if they have the same commitment that we had the way we practice every day if you came to a practice it was like a game situation guy some serious I mean we ran from from group to group and stuff like that if you didn't do your job you would have a veteran to pull you aside and say hey look we have a tradition here. And if you're not going to you know if you're not going to abide by that or you're not going to you know work hard you know I'm going to be here I mean the coaches didn't have to do that we had the leader we had the leadership everything intact. And and I was not one of those guys that was going to stand up and just rah rah rah you had to leave by example the way you practice every day I never took a day where it was like just for granted I wanted to learn something err read day I stepped on to the football field and I think Bill was he knew that he had the players to do that Ronnie Lott the same way on the defensive side of the ball all you hear Ronnie Ronnie was like. You know running to run it cut his free go you guys remember that yes he did run it did not well he would miss like maybe a couple games or something like that and he said just off you know. He did. Yes Yeah he's just coming off and he was right back on the football field. But until you got something about running a running a lot when running a lot hit the woods. In Super Bowl 23 Yeah Ronnie was the type of. Defensive back there is a certain sound and when he saw we sitting over there in office the team you know we in a huddle and stuff like that we heard this sound and someone said run it just hit it he would. After running hit it was he was done. And he didn't want to run the football anymore but you know Ronnie was just that type of player he still is now I see him of the community just very intense he looks at you yeah I just don't think he could even play no right running would get fined so much. Can you see running a lot playing football read. From the audience will get great questions about it what do you think of Antonio Brown he is the wide receiver that the Raiders like go the patriots like go of he is currently unemployed and there is some talk maybe the Niners could say I would not rule out I mean Antonio Brown gave me the Denzel Washington he won he won an Oscar because. Antonio Brown got in touch me say hey look you know I want to play for the San Francisco 49 hours and so I go to college Shanahan go to John Lynch and say hey look man Antonio Brown really wants to come here and play stuff like that they could he tell us what this was the last offseason you had done all season so he reached he contacted me and then he ended up going to Oakland but then Terror time I think he wanted to go to the Patriots. See from day one he wanted to go to the Patriots and he also he asked Stiller's to trade him there but no way they were going to trade him to a rival so he had to go a different route so he you know he said he wanted to come to the Bay Area d.n.a. In an opal and then all of a sudden it was the helmet situation and stuff like that he didn't want to play what what was the conversation he reaches out to you Hey Jerry it's Antonio I want to come to the night and then what did you tell. Kyle and John Lynch that he's interested in you know playing for several Cisco 14 hours but it was up to him you know to make that decision and I'm so glad they didn't make that decision. So we want to call him and just say look you got a lot of no you got a lot of talent I don't need to know that was through social media then I had his phone number all of that stuff is gone I know I do not want any anything to do with that. I'm sorry officer. From the audience which current n.f.l. Wide receiver do you feel best mimics your style of play Larry fist your Oh I love Larry his work ethic Larry invited me up to Minnesota to work with him a couple years back and his regiment is just it's just it's on real guys same as like you know when I 1st came here because Roger Craig Hart me onto the infamous Hill but 2 and a half miles of being at the run down the hill and stuff like that in a lot of the guys came and tried to conquer the hill and they couldn't do it so I think if Raj would you know run a heel with me I would probably have to have the paramedics and everything just in case. A very good story for n.b.c. . From the audience who is the greatest unsung hero that you ever played with 49 er's writers who are John Taylor Yeah. I mean John Guy John Taylor could've went anywhere really been the guy here's a guy that could dunk of basketball with East that could do stand him back flip like nothing then stretch anything and does just come out put on a uniform and just run John Taylor so it's like we had great chemistry if you doubled me and he was gone just you know he was going to tear you off on on the opposite side one on one so then you have Brett Jones. So we all compliment each other because you know we work together as a team and that's just like you know say the receivers are working together to make blocks downfield been to open up holes also for the running backs so we had we had a team that just worked together as one he would just like one heartbeat and that was it let's catch up back to the present day and now losing that game to the Seahawks on Monday night the 40 niners did they learn from that and how deep will this team go seriously here with the entries that they're facing I think the most important thing is for them to make corrections right now to get healthy. The receivers got to realize that if you have to catch everything if the ball touches their hands you should make the catch that's the bottom line. And Bill Walsh was that type of codes how do you how do you coach know right now I don't know if you talked a lot of balls it was no way you were going to be 09 or he would tell you he said you keep dropping balls you can be next bus out of here. And you know there's a new generation of guys now I don't I don't think guys coaches can really Coast their way anymore you know it's just like Jon Gruden when he 1st came back on board we got we talking about Chucky we're told by the little doll you don't see. We differ on his face and all of that you know but you know it's a different generation of guys now you can't coach him that way but yeah you know they just got to realize that they can't make mistakes like that but it was Ok for him to lose the game now they don't have to worry about go on undefeated you saw him stand so now they can refocus they can iron out the little things in just get better is a painful loss like that good for the locker room in terms of how you respond yes oh yeah it brings everything back into perspective and in now the guys are real. That they don't have to work a little bit harder and they don't have to execute better even on defense you know we had opportunities on defense also we we need to get to a quarterback like a Russell Wilson and calls have it in and I'm sure you know they went back and they were very critical in themselves and that's how you make yourself better in rushes it was something I always did guys I looked at every ball game if I had a game where I had over 10 catches 12 catches over 200 yards 3 touchdowns I still look at that game and I was very critical you know maybe I could have been in position to make that block for Roger Craig you know you know John take you know John Taylor or something like that so that's how you get better you know you see now is there some of that magic back from kind of the candlestick 49 or spirit that we finally saw Levi's because it really hasn't been in the 6 years of leave I think you know what college Shanahan and also John Lynch what they were trying to do was trying to get that that structure back. You know you can till just being around the facility you can tell just being around there you know there's. This a way you have to conduct yourself and for years I didn't see that you know with the San Francisco 49 years and you know this team is having so much fun guys do you guys see the celebration you know when they score. We couldn't do that back in the day. You know you got a flag or something like this bill bill was all up in your grill. So we could do that back in there but now they can you know they can celebrate and have a good time in and do whatever you know you guys member Terrell Owens that would have sharpie. And the popcorn How did he know he was going to score. He had a Sharpie in his saw. The sun bowl well you really got to know it as you got to have coffee that comes with this to do that what would you do now if you're still playing you sort touchdown How would you celebrate or would you still do it you always do and I still do it no way just head fish of the ball and believe me I scored 200. I have been up and. I would have been all dance that I'm. From the audience went to see Katie sours the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco how do you feel about female coaches in the n.f.l. I know there's an assistant and will this be a trend why not I don't have a problem with it I mean you eventually you might you know there are some thing female kickers that can really kick the ball when. From the I was yes female president. It was moment that the male president a female president will be voting next year. From the audience do you think high profile athletes have responsibilities to stand up for people of color why or why not I think they have the right to stand up for everybody. I remember I remember when Charles Barkley said you know I don't look at me as a role model I look at myself you know if a little kid is s. a Role model you know and I have to present myself a certain way and conduct myself a certain way so yeah. Yeah like. Thanks or to it's not it that's a. 2 more question Ok. All right what do you talk to these guys when you talk in Iran ear Steve or Roger Craig nowadays What's the conversation like away from all of us away from the t.v. Cameras you guys are hanging out maybe it's Eddie's ranch or you're out to dinner somewhere what do you guys talk about now with this family that's where it's all about well I me. You know being able to and I remove memory my brother Tommy told me way back in the day because my brother Tom play center for the Jackson State University Jackson State University and after he didn't get drafted he says on you to make life better you know our family and you know as as a little kid. You know going to miss him about the state university and for your brother to tell you something like that and you have all that weight on your shoulder and you still able to you know welcome that. You know and it just made me work harder because I wanted to make life better for my family so that's something that we talk about all the time and you know just putting your kids in a position where they can win and be successful that's more and more gratifying to . Do what Clark died a year ago brought you guys all together was the silver lining in that time together that was the most hopeful and well that was the most tough that was the tough time for me I mean because I have watched this guy and Dwight started down the city where he made the kit and and do I use always you know joke around with Joel because you know he would tell Joe that they call it the kids not the throw. So they did they would go back and forth you know Eddie Jones and stuff like that and I'm like Joe Ok I'm looking at that play them said Joe threw that ball away. And and I would always say this in and I really don't want to upset anybody because you know I don't take this the wrong way. Do I wind up in Maine to cast off of my god why. Why guys can I. I mean watch. He got up there he got up during grab the bow No was it I was oh my god. And I remember I remember watching net and I was that Mr Valley State University and stuff like that and I never thought I'd get the chance to. Play alongside that guy that's pretty incredible it was like man it was like a dream come true. He told me actually just of last year said you know with Dwight and Joe Those guys were like the so the thick as thieves they were like husband they were roommates Yeah everything and he said he would imagine some of the stuff that went on would go. I'm. And he and also Dwight would always wear that big for a coat. He could pull that off he was a good looking guy right now yes I did he says they were like husband and wife I don't know who's the husband who is the one. Because I had a good time I know you focus so hard on the practice field back then it was you know Redwood City headquarters that before moving to Santa Clara but you focused so much of practice so hard was there a time when you guys had some fun you know you had your party we always have fun we always have fun but we all so we looked at the big picture it was all about winning you know those 2 days in Rockland just getting yourself ready for the upcoming season and being able to show your best quality of football that that really was you know I think that was the motivating factor for us because we always wanted to have a good performance and. And you know it was something special how we put that together. Me God. I mean some of the plays that you guys witness we had done net like over and over again doing practice repetition with everything you know with the San Francisco 49 ers And I think that's the reason why I feel like we were the team of the eighty's. And you know we were. One last question is there another athlete Hall of Famer from another sport that you're close with and or just chat with occasionally. This is I went to Riviera and I did this thing with Tiger Woods and when I picked up golf and I really could hit the golf ball I was at Stanford he was the amateur at Stanford so he walked up to me say hey look once you come you know you know play some golf with me and I'm like you know Con Tiger I can't even hit the ball you know you know I'm not I'm not going to torch you that way. And he walked up to me River air and he said you remember when you turned me down. But we talked about Tiger Woods. So you know Tiger Woods Michael Jordan all these guys you know it's like you know just great guys and you know Wayne Gretzky I had the opportunity also talk to Pele and it's like. Some of the people that that I meet I'm just. You know Clint Eastwood. All his movies and stuff like that I'm sittin like a little kid looking up at this guy you don't know yeah I'm a make my day you know. I don't like I was that it was Ok. You know it's funny you know which I never thought I would get the opportunity to meet people like that because I never think of as being a celebrity or anything like that but. Yeah it was a. Start of the program I think just behind the scenes here so genuine and when he meets with people it's not one of those let me just take a photo of me shake your hand that matter here it's a real genuine love for the community for the n.f.l. And really it's a true treasure for this country and Jerry Rice thank God thank you. Thank you. You've been listening to our broadcast of informed and Innovation Lab at the Commonwealth Club this week we talked to 3 time Super Bowl champion Pro Football Hall of Famer Jerry Rice who's in conversation with n.b.c. News Bay Area anchor. This program was recorded exclusively for the listeners of. 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