Yes it was never seen the ground filled out do you have a better routine and b.j. Luck I had that was my ring my little pinky finger kind of kissed it then a little cross on a spiritual kind of thing but on his debut he was booed and racially abused by Chelsea fans I just thought this was Crystal Palace fans the opposition Yeah that's when I looked around and into see it was my own fans because I was I'm in the blue shirt which you in the blue shirt in the Scott point Chelsea I play for Chelsea the story of how he fought back and what happened when he met a fan who could be used to him coming up here on out look after the nice Hello I'm Gerri Smith with the b.b.c. News dozens more people are reported to have been killed by the Syrian government bombardment of the rebel held enclave of eastern Ghouta on the outskirts of Damascus activists reported the more than $100.00 people had died there in the previous 24 hours is about you know share. The Syrian government has unleashed its most ferocious for souls on East includes or in years as it seems intent on finally destroying rebel resistance they're using the same tactics of attrition that achieve this goal in Aleppo and elsewhere the bombardments from land and air are hitting every last vestige of the infrastructure that is still just about sustaining life for the areas estimated 400000 inhabitants the are any of the region being designated a deescalation zone has never been so stark president and says Turkish forces will in the coming days Lacey's to the northern Syrian town of the freen the stronghold of the local Kurdish militia and grow views the Kurdish why p.g. As a terrorist offshoot p.k. Rebels in Turkey and has been trying to flush them out of the area for weeks now. The United Nations is warning that a humanitarian disaster of extraordinary proportions is about to head the southeastern part of the Democratic Republic of Congo imagine folks is in Geneva the un refugee agency says fierce clashes between Congolese troops and militia groups are forcing huge numbers of civilians to flee the population of just 3000000 over 600000 people in 10 unique a province are now displaced those fleeing report her rethink violence killings abductions and rape over the course of 2017 the un documented over 12000 reports of human rights violations in the region but the u.n. Fears the number of people affected by violence could be much higher since many areas were too dangerous to reach the European Union's highest court has been advised that Poland broke the law when it allowed logging in the bureau of younger Forest one of the continent's last primeval forests parliament has said it will comply with the court's ruling Kevin Connolly has more details the be all of you mentioned area of breathtaking natural beauty a huge expanse of forest through cold lakes which straddles the border between Poland and be a Ruth's It's home to a variety of ancient plant and bird life and a rare herd of European bison the largest mammal to live on the continent the authorities in Warsaw say they've permitted tree cutting to keep the forest safe for tourists and to control infestation of a parasitic bark beetle critics say the logging is commercial and the legal advisor to the European Court of Justice has now ruled the Poland is in breach of e.u. Regulations world news from the b.b.c. . Officials in northeast India are investigating the murder of 2 laborers by a crowd of nearly a 1000 people the 2 men were drunk from police custody in an ultra predation and beaten to death they were being questioned about the recent rape or murder of the 5 year old girl both men were migrant workers from the neighboring state of Assam. Britain has sought to allay European fears about his decision to leave the European Union the Briggs's Secretary David Davis said London was not seeking to undermine its neighbors or European standards Mr Davis says fears over workers' rights and environmental standards are unfounded they fear that wrecks it could lead to an Anglo-Saxon race to the bottom. In Britain clunked into a Mad Max style world borrowing from dystopian fiction. These fears about a race to the bottom are based on nothing. Not a history not our intentions not our national interest than to Mr Davis added the Briton once process to accept his standards and the use chief negotiator has said this cannot be done automatically Zimbabwe's former opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai is being buried in his home village the culmination of 5 days of mourning following his death from cancer thousands of supporters of the m.d.c. Leader travelled by coach to the remote southeastern village of the hara to pay their respects his supporters have criticised Zimbabwe's government for not awarding the veteran politician a full state funeral a Japanese court has awarded damages to the family of a 102 year old man who took his own life rather than endure a forced evacuation from the area damaged by the Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011 the court ordered Tepco the Japanese power giant responsible for the damaged reactors to pay almost 150000 dollars to the relatives of whom we owe to b.b.c. News. Hello I'm Joe fiction and you're with outlook today would kiss a handsome stranger if you lived outdoors and how washing up while I remember I really really really wanted to get sent back he. I remember thinking having this dilemma will I be able to hear some Plus can you guess what instrument makes this sound. Is a clue there's only one of them in the whole world and to find it in a cave in Virginia. But we're kicking off today in London it's the 12th of April 1982 and a young guy called Paul Canoville is pulling on his Chelsea shirt for the 1st time he's the substitute in an away match against Crystal Palace the 1st black footballer ever to play for Chelsea and he has no idea what's about to hit him. I was a sight for many friends cousins took it than me and the me the more support Yes Yeah it was a nervous scene had the ground filled up because of a scene when I think reserve games you didn't see that many supporters there so that was a change of scenery to see the massive port that would draw an interest in this part. Do you have a better betting on a bridge or not I had that was my ring 'd that taped up in my little pinky finger kind of kissed it then a little cross on it spiritual kind of thing what minute did you come on and I came in about 79 that. I was running out and you know what it was no no and for because you knew our 1st off it was even a full year he stays like this 2nd off you know I've got to come out of college trying to but it was just drag and I was going on I'm thinking man Jane looking them a member distinctly that I was making them so much noise on the side I sit down and knocking my studs in the booth to make a noise just a minute I'm here I'm here it was not gonna cost now and the time thinking up and coming on and leaving it at so when he did say kindness can get warmed up was thinking what for 10 minutes that's what was going for my head with respect to doing that time but you know what let's see what condition but yeah I was down the sideline and do my stretches I'd be do and that's when he hit me really just hearing sis racial abuse being shouted at me and I just fought 1st instincts this was Chris through a Palace fans position Yeah and I for well know the wardens and are they going to do something and they're not going to quieten down how bad was the a.p. It was bad it was so close that fans with that close to the art away Ok every word I was getting upset that's when I looked around and into see it was my own fans and I was shocked. Because I will lie I'm in the blue shirt which you in the blue shirt in the scarves point Chelsea I play for Chelsea was the deal and shook me and it was a complete surprise to you very much I didn't expect it and I said I was doing the warm up when you went on to play Did it affect how you took on the guy took on are to be honest it was in the game I stayed by the sideline received the ball gave it back. That confidence now had totally gone I couldn't wait for the referee to blow his whistle. To be honest when I heard the referee blood whistle I just ride straight to the training room when I've been in the changing room going to be the quietest time I've had in the changing room and the boys could date the boys heard it as well and there were much they could say to me to be honest coming I just came to sit there and was shocked at me much as me it was my manager that took me to one side and told me she said kind of it's ignorant people in this world and it's about what you're going to do and the best for you to for you to do should we defeat and it was right for me this was Major this is my dream my dream was to be a footballer it was quite easy for me to say hold on you know I can't play him run away and come play for next thing but what happens if the same thing happens again how long has he been dreaming of being football they defied fessing black and white t.v. What team Leeds United was that your team there was not a. Black and white telly and they played in the wash and I played some tremendous football that I would I loved it and I member distinctly that used to sit there where I was supposed to do my chores and my mum would be cooling me in the background camp or poled Yes mum come in poor poor Yes mum got me and I were coming to she come and give me the clip in year sitting watching football so what did your mum make of your football ambitions that you know work for mum obviously come from the Caribbean and my mum wanted me to be a doctor and a policeman a doctor and a policeman I've heard that but I think when I told them I'm on I want to pay more I'm going to be a professional footballer that's what you think that's what she says it was everything for me was football discount what she came you know she didn't yeah that was kind of hard for me when you're playing and I was playing for the district planted. Schools stop them on the income and it was always the parents that with their support and their kids and it was most of the time was me being man of the match and I just wanted somebody of close up family member to see how good I was Dad wasn't around studying that well or they separated us a the age of one were you in touch with your dad could you tell him No no no no and if we're going touch your dad but despite the lack of encouragement you processed I did play for a local normally sides yes when a Chelsea scout comes to us to watch how do you then 20 or 21 it's got came along and we see a nervous young black boy and now you're standing right next ideas are just so on the telly the other day I was lying on the cool so I was bit nervous and they gave you a contract pretty quick I did but only happen after the 2nd week and it was that Friday that nervous Friday that was cool to the manager's office when from that decision he told me we like what we see we're going to give you 7 months to prove yourself and you know after that 7 months it was yeah we'll give you a contract what did you do how did you set about who did you call and I was excited to go on the stand and say from the age of 5 I knew I wanted to be a professional footballer. True the tree my life yes pops and downs yes absent and get myself in trouble fink you know my what kind of trouble did Sydney stupid but it really got me so cool I had to go to detention center so I was in there for 4 months thinking well that's it really my career thinking I've been back career to be on this is over it with a discipline I need it to be honest it showed me that this is the place I don't want to ever be again or back when I got my freedom and I wasn't allowed to go where I want to go the best. Thing that came was on the Saturday that a football team and I joined the football team and we played a team that was from outside. The union and it was this particular game we played in the 1st game is funny that we won 10 new and I scored and I thought that was when the god said to me you're good you're very good why don't you gump of trust to Chelsea you know for Chelsea police to feel bad and then where did I hadn't ended up so when you got the offer from Chelsea presume it out felt like yeah that was a lot invested in there once it was taken from my soul goes here chasing that dream and it came about so after the last horrible match against Crystal Palace you said the manager took your side and said Ok you just got to show people what you can do is that how you coped with abuse from then on just to be the best footballer you could be it was difficult I mean you go understand this carried on for 23 years every match it was going to be used Home Away games it wasn't a confident booster and for me every game in I had to play twice as bad no team mate to be accepted obviously helped me by school to go but even when I scored a goal Some say that doesn't count as a black boy schooled it was right what Chelsea fans were Yeah what did it take Phil you mentally to get on the pitch or to believe in myself to be on this every game trying to fit get those fans we were even enjoying the physical turning them on when it came to football. Was there a particular match where you felt you turned a corner with the fans you never really took a match was a good ship for Wednesday and why some points in my mind because it was me in my that for the 1st time as well for the 1st time since you were one year yeah when you know $22.00. Then we played on shift Wednesday we often use quarterfinals and at the time we were doing so well and cheerful with one of the big teams as well so I was sub but I do it ready to had discussions with my dad the time and I'd fight it into the game as I had to visit Sheffield's so you can imagine I was just so I'll know of a sales guy for my head was going to say to you Well we're going to talk about do I be angry so that was God from the mind it didn't start well for Chelsea but how often Sheffield Wednesday with 3 nil up and pole was still on the bench Finally the manager told him he was on. The. Yam and discreet pitch referee Brian we saw and I got in between the fan defender and I hit it 1st time low to the right to keep and that was free one in the 11 seconds for how he so that was the start of a comeback film to make it Thomas schooled and then carry Dixon scored which made Freel and that's where it's calling that carried Neymar carry mammy and I don't know why I've met this bill came straight to me and I was between the king the keeper and one slip the boarding between his legs and he went in and for me because I imagined I was going to my cost for the school to win not to for free. The fans were busy yeah and your dance team was well on that was nervous because still now going to cycle myself prepared and dressed and I'm thinking how am I going to recognize him and it's quite easy because he was the only black man in this face it if we get into the game you. Are you doing all right to treat your community that we start from their communication we go on peaks so you went for a drink of the match and yet then chatted and yeah every guy leaves so easy in his time at Chelsea pool helped them get a promotion to the old 1st Division This was before the Premiership existed but in his 5th season he had a run in with a teammate who pull says was drunk and racially abusive who punched him and says that Chelsea asked him not to return to the club came as a blow it was hurtful I didn't understand the reasons why I was let go all I could imagine that. They fancied him more than me you did find another club you had to writing yes but had a series of injuries and retired within a couple of years having built your whole life for affable really how were you affected by using it it was hard to be taken away because I was in my prime I was 25 I probably took it so like thinking I wouldn't mind but I was into law I did it meant so much to me lost my way started to get depressed and I got involved drugs and a class drugs addicted and that started it took control of me behaving mad selfish after my health I stayed inside. Spent all my money that I was boring and boring to that didn't return and family members friends yeah it was terrible time now that you had kids by then you know how many children did you have a point Gus I mean he did I have 51010 yes yes some say yes and 4 boys you know how many one has a 1010 year how were you able to be a dad to those children when you were addicted to drugs quite honestly couldn't me . And that was reason why I decided I had to detox I was sitting in to rehab but yeah I helped in that time that's when I sort of fully staff in rehab to go to the doctors went there and explained it was just like the doctor was on the fall you need to go to hospital now they're expecting you they've got to pick a lane pick for work they'll explain so I went to the hospital we're going to operate tomorrow right and we're still nobody said nothing anyway about the operation in the next morning I woke up and they told me if I can't come I'm just you know any time I don't feel like it to me I can say you know yeah he had Hodgkinson disease he had chemotherapy and for cuts but the come 2nd back a few years later and then a fun time he didn't want to go through the treatment again but was talked into it by some important people in his life kids there was really wanted to die had we lost you and me and we want you to be our dad have you built up the relationship with the all children oh yeah totally We're going to do a coolie me yeah you doing that I'm fine that's all I want from them really that they contact me to see how they get on last year what about your moment she proud of you know saying hard as knows that him and as much stop and that's how she is and I've probably now got accepted what about Chelsea now how do you now feel about your experience at Chelsea sometimes it can be difficult yes it's nice to be part of Chelsea I can do the hospitalities on match days yeah not Safin that happened really when it was at the game champs in the game and friends kept coming towards me and asked me I could see the pool and then come fans came to me pool was to apologize and. Put it John. I mean I think I know you want to because I was one of those fans that was basically abusing me and I kind of went quiet. I thought this is brave of him to tell me so yeah I did not know about Paul or I was just for him at that time but I know how to fix and I make sure I tell my kids now about yes and I say you know what that's the best feel you could have at the time and said to me but what I see there is everybody keeps telling me Paul you were this instigate he was the 1st black player to see broke through made it easier for the have a black place to come for a long reason why I asked I still support him still there for much else he pled pool Canoville He now runs a pool Cavill Foundation which helps young people facing difficult circumstances with support networks life skills a television series based on his life is going into production here with Outlook in these 10 Us state of Virginia there's a series of caves known for their pools of water that look like mirrors and they're impressive stock type formations but there's also another strange and wonderful attraction there as Outlook's comb Flynn found out. Deep underground in the state of Virginia there is a mysterious sound echoing through a cave. Believe it or not of but that haunting melody you're hearing Beethoven's for release is being played on an instrument that stretches over 3 and a half acres this is the largest instrument of its kind of any kind and the fact that it's the only one of its kind it makes it almost inscribed that's worth and he is plain the greats the pipe organ a truly remarkable instrument that generates its sounds by triggering small rubber mallet which strike the starlit tides hanging from the ceiling you go back out into the outside world and not with all the craziness and Norway's and this and that and everything down here it just stops and you can just breeze and you don't have to worry about what's going on and that's what makes. The great star like pipe organ was created by a mathematician and electronic scientists called the land sprinkled back in the 1950 s. Apparently it was known that if you struck the solid tights hanging from the roof they would generate a musical tone so he carefully selected and shave the style of tights that would produce the right notes and then created a specialized organ console that could play them we're at the console of the great strike pipe organ. Carriage and you're smiling as you say about why well I'm a musician 1st of all I work on instruments and. So to sit at this instrument because of its unique character and what it is really makes it something different and special. Normally also isn't found deep underground playing this instrument he's above ground plane regular organs I'll be playing or most the time it's for churches sometimes for events and then as I'm requested I'll be down here at this console. It was when Arthur was a little boy that he 1st got to see and hear this special organ that probably when I was about 6 to 8 years old I'd come through with a tour with my parents and saw the demonstration and I was in thrall because I love music and the artistic bent it was just like how could you get much better than this you've got this all this incredible visual beauty combined with the aural beauty as well it wouldn't be until years later of course that all over would come across this organ they get this time visiting as an instrument repairman Well the 1st time I actually got to play it was when I had been asked to come over and take care of some mechanical issues with it and I had a chance to sit down and learn about what it could do where its advantages worse limitations were and just had a chance to meld with it like I do with the other instruments What are its limitations Well there are only 36 notes play so because the way the. The keyboards are arranged it doesn't sound like there's only 36 but there are things you need to remember one cannot do for example the real fast works of Bach mainly because they just could not keep up all the feels that this instrument is more suited to slower or more mellow pieces and as he sits here and play. The organ the music gently resonates throughout the largest room here in this 400000000 year old cavern they call the cathedral there are times I just. Just imagine seeing all the different areas of the caverns here I just sort of become one with with the instrument and the room and it's just like I'm I disappear. As an echo. I'm walking out of the cathedral for a few minutes and exploring other parts of the cavern with one of the employees John Shaffer and the 1st thing you notice is how eerily quiet his is. We just heard that drop are probably 100 yards away fall into a pool of water down here in the quiet. Do you know that their background and all those who are in the quiet battles of the earth. Then it's quiet except of course for the Haunted melodies from autos organ. The words are different words are heard or special gorgeous I think one person said thank you I needed the stillness and that that meant the most we need to distill. Petworth playing the Great stuff like pipe organ Fed cone Flynn There's a fabulous photo on Facebook which will give you a sense of the scale of this town tights and while you are that you can get a sneak preview of a story coming up later in the program about the man who dressed Papa Wemba musician and style icon he's called Louise Andrea and we put up some pictures of the creations he showed at the Congolese fashion week they are just something to say Stay with us out we'll be back in just a minute. Distribution of the b.b.c. World Service in the u.s. 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Spoke to people fleeing for their lives in time and you could province who shared stories of horrific violence during attacks on their villages including killings abductions and rape. The European Union's highest court has been advised that Poland broke even law when it allowed logging in one of the continents last primeval forests and have a general also the operations in the b. Our view of forest would damage the breeding sides have protected species he's opinion is not binding on the court but in most cases it follows his recommendation Britain has sought to allay European fears about his decision to leave the European Union the brake said Secretary David Davis said London was not seeking to undermine its neighbors or European standards or create what he called a Mad Max world based on the race to the bottom officials in Bangladesh say the government in Myanmar has agreed in principle to allow the return of more than 5000 were hinges who fled violence in Rakhine state and are now stranded on the border between the 2 countries no date has been set for their return Zimbabwe's former opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai is being buried in his home village the culmination of 5 days of mourning following his death from cancer thousands of supporters of the m.d.c. Leader travelled by coach to the remote southeastern village of blue hair to pay their respects b.b.c. News. And I'm just fiction and you know without the home of personal stories on the World Service this health the man who dressed Congolese fashion icon and music superstar Papa Wemba is to come. Now many couples like to tell the story of how they met but few will top this one I mean Branson and Vic Cozzi were mass about a decade ago they were far from home and love was far from their minds Saskia Edwards has been speaking to the 2 of them starting with Vic I was born in Poland so I had dual citizenship Canadian and polish and around 2005 I moved to Scotland with a friend of mine and I lived for about a year in Scotland and around in Glen just kind of moved around through people I knew at one point mean a friend was going to hitchhike from Portugal up into Berlin it ran out of money pretty quick and it's hard to find a hospital when you've got no money and I just said I'm going to continue travelling so it was summer so we just slept under bridges and on beaches and parks the friend was travelling with me and I had enough as you said hello this I'm going back to Scotland I just thought I had unfinished business so I decided to continue traveling to see base therefore I could push it at 1st it was just like an adventure but then you end up actually becoming homeless is it not a really tough life though I was living in the streets of Amsterdam for a couple of months 6 months I was homeless in total you're constantly drinking wine especially in France because it's it is cheaper than water so after a few months that you just kind of start going into alcoholic mode and your clothes are completely rancid and stinky and the transformation from backpacker to homeless I can say takes about a month and a half so he is Vic It's 2006 and he's homeless in Amsterdam by chance at the same time in the same city is any a Swedish writer who was on a work trip in the Netherlands. One day and he was waiting for her friend and was sitting on a bench in the famous fondle park when somebody sat next to me and he asked what time that was there was a giant clock in front of us so I thought it was the most obvious pick up line ever was I going to I'm going to talk to this woman because she's really good looking and she's sitting there by herself and she looks really happy so I'm going to go and have a chat with her but I also noticed that the mound sitting next to me who asked me what time it was was homeless because he was very very dirty his clothes were dirty and his hair and his beard but I also remember that he made me laugh straight away and I also remember that I thought that he had very beautiful eyes he had the biggest nose Brown beautiful eyes I'd ever seen and then my friend arrived and I stood up to go and this strange homeless man just stood up as well and pointed to the bench and said Saturday 3 o'clock same baggage and he just walked off and I remember looking my friend going what did that just happen who is this confident homeless man I don't I don't think I've always had the confidence of just coming came over time anything you want itself to be you can just basically become him you can present is of no where you can stand and walk and talk you have full control over that so why not just make it the best yet you have nothing. Yes I know them lose I found it kind of sexy as well and I couldn't get it out of my mind the following week I just couldn't wait I was counting the hours until it was subsidy 3 o'clock I knew that she was working all week which of Saturday off and I had Saturdays off as well because I was sort of working part time selling tickets to public roles so that way that was a little bit of stablished oath uplifts Yeah that living in the bush I saw Start a lot of bushes and I was the best one the father had a Swiss army knife so I just want him crawled underneath a bush and cut out a few of the bigger pieces and kind of made myself a little cave did you think I would be there on Saturday Yeah it was 5 of us I don't know how big I had doubts I was like yeah maybe she will have a show and so after days of anticipation that fateful Saturday came and he didn't turn up and they remember feeling like such a fool and I was really close to calling my sister and having a cry and then suddenly. He turned up again. On that tiny kid's bike it was there we had a sight I've ever seen but I bought the bike for 5 euros. By the side of a canal dog and it was actually is a pretty good but then there was a kid spike it was only 5 or. We spent the next 6 hours together and I found out his name was a bacon he was from Canada and I kind of really least started falling in love with him. I remember I really really really wanted to kiss and but he just stands I remember thinking having this dilemma will I be able to kiss him. Well we were sitting in that bundle part having a picnic and I mean he's he's a gorgeous man and I was very attracted to him I couldn't resist him anymore and we were walking by canal and he was already dark and the canal was huge he left and suddenly I was just in. We kissed and they was amazing. I remember you tried to convince me to come back with you to the bush but I just said no no thank you darling you hadn't had a more romantic proposal in your life I'm sure I know I know I'm crazy I said no after meeting a few more times and he had to go back to Vienna where she was actually living at the time while Vic remained in his bush in Amsterdam I didn't have a way of keeping in touch with Vic because he had no mobile phone he had no email address yet no postal address and I'm sure the desk postal office would not have accepted any letters to the gorgeous man who lives in the bush in the bottle park so I left a mobile phone number and I returned to Ghana and I didn't know if I was ever going to see him again and Vic What were you thinking at this point I mean you must have been quite infatuated yet or was. A lot of come on it's not just that she went back to Vienna and I was about 3 weeks I was like I couldn't get this woman out of my head as well I saved up some money and got a train ticket and went to Ghana but almost didn't make the train what happened yeah I got arrested a few days before I was going to leave I already had the ticket I had a ticket for about a week or something I had met a group of Polish punk rockers who lived in a squat really good group of guys and we got on very well so I wanted to throw a little party as a little thank you for let me crash at their place and I bought a bunch of beer but then I didn't have any money for food so I just said Ok well I'm going to steal it so I stole some vegetables and potatoes and a whole chicken but I got caught so I got arrested Friday afternoon and I was catching the train Monday morning but it being the weekend the could let me out till Monday but by the end of the few days I got pretty good friends with the guards and they let me out there like I showed the train ticket that they are get out of here. I mean did you have any idea that it was coming no idea the he. And I remember I was getting ready to go to work and I got a call that my mobile phone and it was a fake just saying I'm here now and I'm on the big shopping so doodoo doodoo 'd 'd 'd. And I was like Ok if. I read the money he had to do the Wasn't gender out but I kind of guessed where he was so I walked up and down this big shopping street and telephone to him and he was meant to call. Me. How did your friends and family react to the fact that you had brought upon this man who now I guess was your boyfriend I didn't tell anyone the full truth certainly not my parents but I did tell some of my friends and unfortunately I did lose 2 of my best friends because they just one except him how hard was. It's still really hard 12 years on it can still make me quite tearful actually and Vic how did you adjust to life in Vienna did you go in to get a job what did you end up doing that 1st was a bit weird just really appreciate the fact that you have a like a duvet so I still appreciate that now and I tried to look for some work but there was really difficult so we ended up moving back to Scandinavia so that they could study full time in Copenhagen because there was a mechanical engineering course there in English and so we left the end actually after our wedding we got married in a castle and 2 years after that our twins were born boy and a girl and do they know how Mum and Dad met Yes we didn't very honest with Paul we met and they don't really understand the social implications of it I think but they do love it they think it's really funny you know that he lives in the bush one thing I was thinking about when I was reading about your story was that I guess it reminds people that homeless people opt people who deserve love and who can give love is that something that you reflect on is something you're trying to show that was one of the reasons why I decided to write my book which is a fictionalized version of how we met just to give people a different kind of view on the world and just to ask people to be a bit more open because you never know who you might meet my prince charming turned out to be a homeless alcoholic who lived in a bush and for me personally I think I've won the lottery ticket. Vic cups and any opera house and have book is called How to fall in love with a man who's next in a bush. And I went out look on the b.b.c. World Service so. I gave was through I was wrong. So. I was a Ask away is nice to hear but if Papa Wemba the Congolese king of rock they called him when he died nearly 2 years ago he was one of Africa's most popular musicians and a style icon for the Seppo the young fashionistas of can chefs and Brazzaville who dress like Colonial dandies in striking suits often brightly colored and with bold patterns always with an elegant hat and Papa Wemba was their leader but who dressed him for the last few years of his life it was a Congolese designer called his own band who has an extraordinary story of his own . And I just think oh suitable don't want to be I was 5 years old when we moved to Kinshasa I have beautiful memories of that time I was very close to my mom I would follow her everywhere I was the youngest in the family which means I was the most spoiled but when I was 11 years old my mother died I remember seeing her in hospital she had some surgery I didn't understand what was going on I just remember that something went wrong and then a was there when she passed away I don't like talking about it because it still hurts so much I haven't been able to come to terms with their dad. My dad used all his savings to pay for my mom's medical care after she died he had no money to support me but he wanted me to continue my studies so hard to move in with a cousin I was very unhappy I found it really difficult to adapt to a new place and I was suffering so much after my mother's death I felt that life had lost all meaning I lived like that for 5 years when I was 17 I was able to move back in with my dad we had a very affectionate relationship he was my best friend it felt so good to have a parent again at charity every moment I spent with him when a few months after I came back home he became ill not long after that when I was doing my final exams at school he died it was a horrible struck by more. Us left with nothing so what did snipping Raf in the streets of Kinshasa Sometimes I would crush on a friend sofa I was miserable in crying all the time I had lost everything I barely even felt human I had lost my parents I had no food in nor money but it was while I was leaving in the street I came up with my 1st fashion design I would sell my shoes with an errand wire so that they wouldn't fall apart I started fixing my own clothes and that's when I started to dream about becoming a stylist. Oh sleeping on the streets for about 2 years but then one of my mother's friends helped me and said I could live with her other time my heart and roll that university but I had no way to support myself and no money to buy clothes I remember once a friend gave me a pair of trousers and I put some pins on them in a wore them to my campus when I walked in that morning everybody when wowo genuine I knew then I had this desire to create clothes at that time I'll submit to girl who became my girlfriend when there was at her place in I saw she had some plastic flowers in her living room that you have been deported to. And. I wanted to create something nice for her she gave me a pair of trousers and I decorated them with the flowers I had no sewing machine or anything just a needle in my imagination it turned out so good my friends and my neighbors were all complimenting my work and that's when word started spreading that a young stylist leaves in the neighborhood he has no means but he was able to make these amazing creations nobody could believe that the young guy with no training could come up with such amazing designs I was even interviewed by a journalist and there was a story a local t.v. Afterwards I started getting clients making clubs gave me a reason to live after I lost my parents I had lost my happiness but making clothes made me happy it gave me my smile back I make clothes from any material I can get my hands on have made clothes out of metal chains aluminum I've even made clothes out of who then bamboo whence it took me 8 months to make just 20 pieces just for people to say wow. Once I started becoming more. Well known one of my dreams was to create clothes for the musician Papa Wemba he's a superstar in Africa in the amazing musician he's also a fashion icon I was desperate to meet him one day I even waited for more than 3 hours outside the restaurant hoping to talk to him as he walked out but he never came out I was tired and didn't want to be at it so I went home. Not long after that I was invited to take part in the very 1st Congo fashion week I was asked to represent Kinshasa alongside designers from booking a fire so Binnie could have water and. When I went to the venue I was carrying a suitcase with well my clothes and the 1st person that bombed it was Papa Wemba I said hello and told him I had been eager to speak to him for a long time he's bodyguard who knew about me told him I was a talented young stylist Papa Wemba asked to see my creations so I open my suitcase there and then and let him have a look. He was very happy he called me a few days later and invited me to his place imagine what it was like back back when back he's a superstar I listen to his music and what should he mourn t.v. Since I was a child and they're our standing at his place I couldn't believe it but there was no time to be nervous I had to be confident I was so passionate about my work not having my nan and losing my parents almost destroyed me but creating clothes for Papa Wemba would be such an exciting challenge that I didn't want to mess it up. He gave me 2 pairs of trousers to customize it took me 2 weeks to finish them I used bells in sequins and I made them look so nice nobody had seen anything like that before and he loved them from that moment on I became Papa Wemba special stylist and that was my job at least death 2 years ago I think he was very happy with my work and mind you it was not easy to dressing I remember one day he said in an interview that it trousers he was wearing that day wearing a unique piece he said it was a pair of trousers that came from they happened. Thank you. Congolese fashion designer and stylist Louise don't buy now witness today we're going back 30 years to February night in 88 when one of America's best known evangelical preachers Jimmy Swaggart made a public plea from the pulpit for forgiveness he'd been caught with a sex worker was a dramatic fall from grace for the highly successful swipe at his televangelism had reached across the globe Mike launching reports. A massive church service in the Ivory Coast in the late 1980 s. With a special guest preacher from the u.s. Jimmy Swaggart. With some $260000000.00 followers around the world many of them in West Africa but also in Latin America Swaggart was at the height of his global fame and you cannot charge their proper steps was. His popularity with here's the norm and he had no way the goal because he did go up you know he just had such a command of the Christian community. When he sings that's when he when you hear his audience is here they are in thrall he would just make you listen. To this. News it would practice was a young reporter with the state Times newspaper in Baton Rouge in the u.s. State of Louisiana where Swaggart started out well I met Jimmy Swaggart back in the very early eighty's or late seventy's he had a radio station there he was running at that point out of an apartment complex he was where we'll known in this area his support was crossed all racial lines is burning popularity commanded that we go or do a story and say what well who is this guy and how was that 1st interview with him you know how how did he come across to you he talked about religion he talked about himself he talked about being happy that I was there to do the interview it was just like another interview with somebody who was about to get big here in Baton Rouge Jimmy Swaggart had begun as a small time Louisiana preacher leading revival meetings out for a flatbed trailer in the American south by the late 1960 s. He just stopped leashed a small church in Baton Rouge affiliated to the eventually. Denomination the Assemblies of God and we can a decade he was broadcasting his messages around the country through Christian t.v. Networks and his modest little church had become the centerpiece of a rapidly growing empire there was a business building there was where he did his books and all this kind of stuff and mailed them out he schools across the street he had built domes over there he had class rooms huge parking area huge parking area he had a place where you could go and workout they had 2 or 3 swimming pools in their bed a fact my son took swimming lessons over that it was like going to like a it was I was a Christian Disneyland what it was it was everything that was there you can go there from kindergarten and through bible college and for you guys who weren't part of that circle and you know who went maybe his followers what did you think of him I was among those folks who back in the day I saw a lot of these guys as hawks You know I didn't say he was but yeah they like how he was right and so they it just seemed to us to me in some of my friends that these guys would do a whole lot for money I'm a Christian and I go to so much of a small church whatever and like a lot of people are with the church with me and others just feel like to constantly ask people to pray but also ask them to give you money to listen to them free which is a hard thing for people like me to stomach you know this is why God is one of the extraordinarily charismatic group of television evangelists who made millions by drawing the crowds and persuading followers to part with cash ever want to do right now with all that tell them do what you can do if it's $20.00 or 50 or $100.00 or whatever put it on your Visa or you're matched in the highly lucrative world of Tel evangelize ing Jimmy Swaggart was fast becoming one of its biggest stars but soon rivalries with other prominent preachers began to. Spillover into ugly public spats in 1960 me Swaggart was sued by a fellow preacher Marvin Kuhlmann whom Swaggart had publicly criticized for sexual improprieties both men had prominent shows on the evangelical praise the Lord t.v. Network there the case was thrown out Coleman was defrocked and his 4 and a half $1000000.00 show was canceled so I guess only show was also canceled soon after next the t.v. Networks found the evangelical minister Jim Baca was himself forced to step down after allegations that he'd had an affair with a church worker in 1908 the church was hit with an even bigger scandal as photographs emerged of Jimmy Swaggart in the company of a New Orleans prostitute Now we'll see the whole city was talking about it you go to barber shop to talk about it you know you go to the grocery store you walk somebody walk up to you know or let everybody thought of America as a dog disclosures that one of its most famous television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart has been involved in a sexual encounter with a prostitute Jimmy Swaggart a church was packed yesterday as the wealthy American evangelist arrived with his wife and family the sermon was hardly typical The preacher had come to make a public confession about a sexual encounter with a prostitute some people were said in just sitting not doing anything there were others who were just talking and others getting It was almost this anticipation it was like people were sitting on is not just physically but emotionally it was like they lost something in they were hoping that he would come and give it back and what happened when he came on stage and what was allowed if I can recall it was a lot of applause when he came finally he he rose to the toll in almost instantaneously he started crying to my love I must. Margarito. The one. Sure. I do a lot of I do worship. But that's the true Marvel. How is the congregation reacting as he was saying that there might be somebody said next to you who just gas or you have somebody addicted a person crime and then you have somebody else with their hands of saying We forgive you it just it was no one thing there was some people there and it wasn't a lot who had no emotion. You can see it on their faces your little darling on leave you know those people were coming back just days later Debra Murphree the prostitute who'd been photographed with Swaggart confirmed that he'd been a regular customer of has although she insisted they hadn't had sex Swaggart was suspended by the Assemblies of God but soon after he returned to the pulpit but his baton rouge church 3 years later in 1901 he was back in the news again American television evangelist Jimmy Swaggart has temporally resigned from his ministry following allegations that he had a prostitute in his car when Californian police stopped him for traffic offenses Mr Swaggart is reported to be seeking counseling but intends to preach again in his church this time rather than ask for forgiveness the 56 year old Swaggart told his congregation that the Lord told me it's flat none of your business he was however eventually forced to step down as the head of the Jimmy Swaggart ministries that's one of those things are generally unforgettable messing with a prostitute or have an affair with somebody you're married and have an affair when you when you're in a position like you know what I look back on it where he could have been with the following there he here probably had presidents would have become or to him. Or his indorsement there was no war there was like you Jimmy Swaggart is now in his eighty's and still preaches although he's congregations are much smaller than back in his heyday it would Pratt is no longer a news reporter but he still lives in Baton Rouge though he says he hasn't seen Jimmy Swaggart in years that report was by my Clanton and that's it for today from each of fiction and the whole outlook crew thanks very much for listening. This week on the spot will peel back artworks in order to find their original canvases. I was sharing for the 1st time that there were something called laser which sounds so common now but back of the eighty's this was the brave new world lasers What are those why would they work on tattoos here more on the spot tonight at 11 pm on $91.00. San Francisco. 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