This is Aspen Public Radio broadcasting on k h j I x Aspen and k c j x Carbonell. Good morning and welcome to New Day from the b.b.c. Will suffer a signal that we call the number that meet all of the job in Kenya our top story is a potential trade war sparked by present trumped up again announced plans to put targets but still I don't have enough inputs also about the portable bossa which is the gateway for trade to East Africa hearing about how a local area not too far from here is using its own currency those are coming up because the Thailand one new political parties all registering for the 1st time since the military take have been 84 years ago and the most difficult decision any mother could make to escape water in Syria and leave her family behind this was a gift from God to let me continue my life is safe I just called my husband he was very angry he just say did of course not you have the need to baby to look to in the 1st a news update. But are Romney owners with the b.b.c. News stock markets in Asia have fallen after Donald Trump's plan 3 impose tariffs on steel and I mean your imports to the United States sparks fears of an international trade war Japan's Nikkei index closed 2 and a half percent law or Asian markets followed the lead of Wall Street from Singapore has leisure center around President Trump's move is targeted at China but it's hitting other Asian allies South Korea for example is America's 3rd largest source of imported steel Japan's trade minister has told a local news outlet that Japanese steel exports and other products are not a threat to u.s. National security and so experts say that we can expect President Trump's new terrorists to be challenged at the World Trade Organization and that some countries try to include it may take retaliatory measures against America political parties in Thailand are being allowed to register with the Election Commission the 1st officially sanctioned political activities in the military seized power in $214.00 the government says elections will be held by February next year Jonathan Head reports the military has already drafted an electoral system which will ensure that its influence continues it's created an upper house entirely appointed by the hunter and a new voting system likely to reduce the number of seats held by the largest party put time much depends on how well put time backed by the exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra does in its traditional strongholds in the north and northeast of the country eliminating the Shinawatra family's influence was one of the goals of the coup makers. The British prime minister to reason may well satellite have view of Britain's economic relationship with the European Union after leaving the bloc during a closely watched speech later today she says Mike had to say that the deepest and broadest possible free trade deal is achievable more details in this report from Laura Cohen's by the Prime Minister's answer to criticisms that her position has been vague and on realistic will be more details than before on the approach she will take and the compromises she's willing to make to reason may will set 5 tests for her negotiations to achieve a final deal that protects the economy security and the union one cabinet minister has told me it will feel like she is being honest with the public and will tell some hard truths the e.u. Has already expressed reservations about this broad approach cautioning that it's impossible to pick a mix more records bug the Israeli police have questioned the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over alleged corruption links to the country's largest telecommunications company ban sick it's the 1st time he's been questioned in this particular case although Mr Netanyahu is also being investigated in several other cases he denies any wrongdoing this is the latest world news from the b.b.c. . Officials in Azerbaijan say about 25 people have been killed by a fire in a drug rehab alliterations center in the capital Baku another 4 people were taken to hospital television pictures showed flames leaping through barred windows of the buildings the cause of the fire is not no. Afghan interior ministry says a car bomb targeting foreign troops has exploded in the capital Kabul an official said one civilian was killed and at least 4 people were injured insurgents have stepped up their attacks in Kabul in recent months. The former president of Guatemala of autocall Lama and most of his former cabinet are to be tried for alleged corruption the charges relates to a $35000000.00 contract to buy public dances during Mr Columbus 4 years in office Mr Colom has denied any involvement one of America's most experienced diplomats the ambassador to Mexico has announced that she's stepping down to Jacobson who has worked for more than 30 years in the State Department gave no reason for her decision on XM and comes amid tensions over trade and u.s. Plans for a border war and 99 year old Australian swimmer has broken a world record during trials for the Commonwealth Games George her own Scots more than 20 seconds off the previous record more details from Howell Griffith while most around him were sweating over claiming a place in the Commonwealth Games George Coronas is the astray in trials as a way to put his name in the record books the only entry in 102104 age group he swam alone covering 50 metres in 56.12 seconds Corona says he only started taking swimming seriously at the age of 80 while this won't win him a place in the games he does have his sights set on another record tomorrow night he returns to swim in the 100 meter freestyle b.b.c. World news. Thank you for the news update welcome to News Day with ball in London Al and his leader is in Kenya we're also in Thailand where there's been a big development to open politics in the country also a must listen to story on the way of the Syrian musician you could only escape the water one country by leaving her family behind you at the port of Mombasa. Both maintain precisely not to proper being is a plug deliberating this but by President $70.00 a day parts of the significance of this what it serves to keep some one of East Africa it's actually called the kids East Africa imports exports come through. Through this process that are at this point. But 1st America's trading partners have threatened to retaliate following President Trump's decision to impose tariffs of up to 25 percent on imported steel and aluminum to talk about this more I'm joined by that from our business unit so visual or what or which trading partners are being targeted and why is Trump there yet I know you're saying the u.s. Gets its steel from about 100 countries several trading partners are impacted not just the big on say the obvious partners are the European Union and Canada why is he doing what it's what he promised in 2016 during his election campaign he promised his ages to bring a back the steel industry bring about jobs I was the us and in those specific states known as the rust belt during the party conventions in 2016 they were the states that were known as the money faction heartland of America that kind of suffered in terms of jobs the areas of globalization and so he very much appealed to that core base clearly this is going to have ramifications around the world joining. Yes now is a policy directive pretty stale which larn which Thanks so much for joining us was seamy its effect on countries in Europe and the us and also beyond. The 1st and foremost is the wrist a lingering hope that these tyrants won't actually be implemented against the European Union or the u.k. I mean President Trump's comments indicate that they will be but there is still some hope that the maybe some exemptions However if you know the worst does come to pass in the raw tariffs on u.k. Exports it would have a significant impact it is a is a pretty big export market for us about 15 percent of our export market will go expose go to the u.s. About 250000 tons of sterile $350000000.00 pounds worth so that will have a massive knock on impact in terms of an indirect impact obviously 25 percent tariffs on all sale importance to us that will be an impact on the all exports all important to us finding other markets so there is a real concern that exports that would have come from China or Vietnam or Turkey the world going to the u.s. May now find themselves coming to the u.k. Or elsewhere in the e.u. And I that is a major concern and will always be seeing factories close down across the world because today we had freed is admitting the European Union double Teske said that that would be a possible consequence. It's it really is too early to say at the minute we certainly don't want to be alarmist but when you're looking at the kind of volume of of exports certainly from countries like the u.k. 350000000 pounds worth there are jobs attached to those volumes of still it would be too soon to say I'm certainly alarmist to say we would see still some factories closing down in the u.k. But it is going to have a detrimental impact on the industry let's bear in mind the u.k. Steel industry as much as a global it's really has had a very difficult time the last number of years and we are just starting to turn a corner this is not health one of very much throws a spanner in the works and we had ever not much from China which is clearly a little bit like the elephant in the room because Donald Trump is a very cool about China only speaking at the enemy of jobs with China it's not as much of a big important people might think to the u.s. That's very much correct so you're big oil importers are countries very close to it like Canada and Mexico some from the Asian region the biggest importers are country like South Korea and to a certain extent Vietnam China makes up perhaps 3 percent and to them is of value of the important to us it was hard but actually measures that are already in place things called trade defense instruments have actually had a significant impact on reducing those imports so was yes most of the door terms are always aimed towards China certainly you know what he's speaking publicly it certainly isn't the the the biggest issue in terms of importance the u.s. And Britain to ever on the wells I mean how will people feel the impact of s. And and also picking the u.s. Will they stay what he president jump is saying this or do you create more jobs in the u.s. In in a global context we're always you have to see what the what the reaction of other countries are I mean the e.u. Is already considering different measures that it can take so you could very. Could very well see the start of a trade war does not exact precedent when you look at what happened back in the early 2000 when George w. Bush put tariffs on steel products the e.u. Responded in kind 1st putting out more crude safeguard measures some measures similar kind of tariffs to try and stop the the indirect impact as in the flow of steel products that would go into the u.s. Into the e.u. But also happenstance so they started looking at measures and saying they would implement measures on products that would actually you know in a political way. The president so there was talk about import tariffs on. Orange juice from Florida and from a Harley-Davidson motorbikes and actually China was already commented that it would be looking at similar times attack so actually it's a the impact on it goes far wider than just the still sector which you are it's effen but you soon Gee thanks very much thanks to Charlotte now after 4 years without elections political parties in Thailand are being allowed to register again it's the 1st officially sanctioned political activity since the military seized power in 2014 correspondent Philip had joins us from Bangkok terms of how many great and I guess what kinds of groups are expected to register. That's $34.00 so far registering for an election which the government now says will happen next February although it's been perspiring so many times by the military no one bill is believes yet that's a certain date these are all small parties a few of them are existing parties who are trying to get around tough regulations and restrictions on existing parties by re founding themselves quite a few of them are pledging themselves to back the current leader of Thailand the man who led the coup is the former arm for Army commander General priority to carry on being prime minister even after an election and indeed the electoral system that the military has drawn up in its new constitution is quite limited in its democratic impacted it allows for a completely appointed Upper House and the voting system is likely to weaken the traditional large parties in particular the party dominated by tanks and should know what his family he's the former exiled exile for prime minister who the military government military overthrew or the government backed back in 2014 so we're seeing in a way yes the return to politics but under very tightly restricted military govern rules and we're likely to see a showdown between small parties backing in some way the current status quo under the military against the traditional big parties that clearly the ruling party still wants them controls the why are they doing this then. Well after nearly 4 years in a way the military government has has gone past its sell by date ties accepted military government at 1st because it brought an end to political disorder and then because they oversaw a very difficult royal transition when the making bone upon even on the throne for 70 years died a very delicate moment people understood perhaps why military government was good then but the economy's not doing that well there's been some well known corruption scandals in general people are beginning to wonder just why unelected generals should stay in power when they don't appear to be doing much better than elected politicians and I think the generals do understand now that they keep responding at that they've got to have an election before too long they can't keep on perspiring it forever but I suppose those who orchestrated the keep for example and if they were hoping to strengthen that influence this way it's probably not likely to happen not their their influence will survive they made sure of that the military has got a 20 year plan for the country its own reform plan it will be able to oversee the the new government for at least the 1st 5 years and has this appointed Senate $250.00 seats out of $750.00 in both houses which are appointed by the current military so their influence will continue but politics in Thailand is always very fluid and although people looking at the election rules think gosh is any half a democracy the party is going to be very weak in practice the way we've seen things in the past once the parties get reelected everyone starts making deals and I think the current military rulers their big worry is you know that there was very controversial their coup they be penalized the former party that if the former ruling party per Thai Texans party gets back into power it might take out some kind of retribution against the generals who overthrew them thank you Jonathan that's our correspondent Jonathan Head in Bangkok. You're listening to news day coming to you from London with. The port of Mombasa Mombasa he's the gateway to East Africa and a lot of countries Uganda Rwanda border the South Sudan some parts of Somalia parts of Tanzania despite having ports themselves depend on these particular ports make sure that the goods get there and some of the goods that are coming in clude sort of you know things like fossilize are coming through this ports and they'll also graves that coming through here are the lot of exports as well for every imports Well for every you know the visit of a huge of dollars with a $4.00 to $1.00 ratio what it comes to exports versus imports not too far from the bustle from where we're starting right here I was driving around getting to know this city ended up in an area called Bangladesh it's a slum area there I met a very very passionate woman called on young go on telling me about life in Bangladesh and also what it's like to survive in the slum and why it was important for this particular area to generate or to find its own currency an alternative currency that they call buckle up as. Well you know. This is money of. The thing for me to be cleared and then you get on and then you're stuck. There for a silly youth them to our 5 King and also this currency the bungler person is shilling for shilling it going to the Kenyan money to be either late budgeted back to the but actually if you cannot count the exact amount somebody has given you well and if you don't have a good 7 but in the Bangladesh that you just played but actually but you have the exact amount like Manny my feeling for what my goodness. Actually we had a problem of getting our local currency getting our king Asselin. So we decided that we sat down and thought of what to do so we we had stock we had like tomatoes we had no money to buy but he had this dough so I was in need of tomato when the other person had no money and I also had no money no you can't take my tomato without anything so we thought of a plan which we can be doing our local climate without anybody going up to last lake you took my money you took my good out of subways and you don't give me money so this was just like a credit that is why we call it it is a bundle up as that credit money. Why should the person why is it valuable to me as a pass rule if I wake up in their morning I would like to eat I am going to bang Lapis our membership I'm going to eat if my child wants to go to school the community school here like the Governmental School sent to Mary's private school sent and aliens our children out of in there with a bang Lapis a vein pay a fee they pay tuition we have a hospital here which is also using. If you are poor and you want to get something you should always add up to any new change what you do to people who don't pay back the money the person or we the bank Lapis that is not paying back we banged up if that is a peer we're treading And if we have the commodities and the goods to sell in our markets but we don't tell you expect us to to stand in front of a future president will come from black there's because this is a place we have somebody come from nothing to something and actually I tell you has never been spoon fed you cannot compete in Mother we could I say who just got food on the tip Who was it in went to school who have children who some are going to work for the people like we haven't gotten to college on but tell can you support I say when you don't have money the money is with the rich people. The government's money to come to the people on the ground not to the rich people who have been having so many things and so many need to. Just that minute the poor communities and you think because they don't have any alternative thing to do big clue or no food and the food if that's right we want to eat but no money would you expect us to do. And that is very very very passionately. She quoted if that populace is people to get involved in it it's really interesting how it works it makes sure they don't need cash in order to survive the next so that people are fed people get food banks are very. Slick she lost president that's sure that you have no i'm drawing to a possible to. Join what you're doing here I'm going to operate and I could you know gantry I needed you to describe that to be expected north of the country I mean. I'm operating the cranes that actually. The container from the she of to the shore and how many cranes are ready containers do handle. Our We 100 of probably can put a sheet a shift and we can you know you you. You come to your head I do count them I have a record of at least 48 contain a per hour wow yeah that's very delicate very important that you keep time as well how important is it for you to make sure that the time but everything is done on time yeah it's important because. In an 8 hour shift we are given and I think to take it over he's $120.00 container and out we sometimes it's important because each and every container the sneezer revenue to organization and then go a long way in helping organisation out with this revenue right at the moment is still with us and mamma of these are the keepers these are the people we're going. Real work well yeah these are the kids and I think everybody should be proud of these guys because I know if they delay the containers the cost is going to be passed on to you so every price on the supermarket shelves will change if this guy delays your contain really yes explain that that's how important he is and his job is we really pump and we don't want them to walk on stress he shifts 4 hours a day and he goes he has like 7 days off days so these are the most important guys the cogs of the will if I may say of the port. Out there at home you'll be happy that a cup of tea might be 3 shillings on. The on there man or but there's a guy that makes this to make sure that it's 10 shillings and it remains a very very briefly how important in one word a world a couple of words how important would you say it is this porch to this region while this port is an international court you've driven here inside and you've seen that all the number plates all the people from Uganda. They have representatives we don't say this commercial here from this can this port is on by everybody who has business to do with it with us so the important is really really very big you heard it there normally a very very important port you know it's very very important for the exports for the imports and exports more imports you know the the things that leave this place the exports are much fewer of the imports but then again it's still about supporting. This stuff Alan Alan procedure that in at the port of Mombasa it's a 23 questions here with the Pep Guardiola has declared Manchester City a step closer to winning the English Premier League title after beating Arsenal 3 nil for the 2nd time in a week the freezing night in London the city destroyed Arsenal's confidence from the start the scorers weapon out of Silva David Silva and Leroy Sunday and City have a 16 point lead at. The top with 10 games remaining the Spanish league leaders Barcelona were held to a $11.00 draw at least pumice Neymar has arrived in Brazil to have an operation on his foot on Saturday he surgeon said the player could be out for 3 months but he is expected to be fit for the World Cup in June in athletics the Ethiopian run a conservative about made it a 3rd straight $3000.00 metres world indoor gold medal with her success in Birmingham. And a 99 year old Australian man is preparing to break a 2nd swimming world record after smashing the 50 metres freestyle record for his age group by more than 30 seconds George Brandis cover the distance of 56.12 seconds and he'll attempt their 100 meter world record in Queensland on the weekend he's our new hero he's a hero Yeah the catch phrase of the day is if you stop you drop a lover and there's some truth right yeah keep moving moving you can check out the interview up on the b.b.c. World Service Twitter page at b.b.c. World Service now in Syria a 30 day truce is still nowhere near happening but the conflict the conflict is closely being watched by those refugees who have left understandably one of them is rugged recently granted asylum here in the u.k. She's a viola player and fled her home country 2 years ago while taking part in a European tour featuring several Syrian musicians she was as a peace concert last night in London and has been talking to news days Julian Keane starting with what life was like in her home country during the war it was like making music between bombs. I was living 80 kilometers from Damascus in a town called the uproot and I had to go out every single day in the morning to my area here sales and come back in the evening and sometimes I come back here late at night in a road full of dangerous things you know shooting and it wasn't safe I thought weakness of many things during my journey every day it was scary life every day but I have to do it because it's my living and every morning I go out I just pray to God please. Let me come back to my son. Who are. Joining the 2 is Africa Express and with Diamond and I just heard some news about his coming again to my town and many many things going on during these 15 days so I just had the feeling that maybe I came here by plane not by sea this was a gift from God to let me continue my life in safe so I just decided and called my husband and said that he was very angry but I made the decision because I felt this is the only way I mean this is my family. It's player right had had a Syrian refugee who was recently granted asylum here in the u.k. Coming up later on well service is wild up there with Pierce Lynch morning morning hiding here is how you found by while and by I am not going to be sunny what up I thought to be done to him and he's currently stuck on a train the beast from the east is. Ok so we're going to go on global trade we're going to see what a tip for tap the spawn. To the president still tires might mean for the world and ultimately your pocket and it's Friday so we can be running our Friday feature today we have a historical feature based in Victorian London when the capital ran out of burial grounds a lot of the cemeteries in London were shot 7 getting very. Exuberant they were taken off. To be crushed. Coffins would just be strewn across the ground the water was drawn from wells so decomposing bodies would be getting into the. Grisly stuff and we'll hear about the train that transported the dead out of the city to one of the biggest cemeteries in the world thank you. Well they welled up that coming out with on the b.b.c. With. Distribution of the b.b.c. World Service of the Us was made possible by American Public Media with support from London USA announcing the lend us 828000 conference on lending in tech block chain and more. At Moscone west in San Francisco learn more about the conference at London dot com. Coming up on the b.b.c. World Service the future. 3 women have lived very different lives tell us how food is sometimes the only way to rebuild or heal when you fret war and lost almost everything when you feel disconnected from the culture you were born into because of family secrets or when decades after starting a new life in a new country there's still something missing here there's stories on the food chain off the news b.b.c. News with Neil Nunez stock markets in Asia have folded in after Donald Trump's plan to impose tariffs on steel and imports sparked fears of an international trade war Japan's Nikkei index closed 2 and a half percent the United States major trading partners including the European Union and Canada have threatened retaliatory action if tariffs are introduced in Thailand more than 30 new political parties have applied to register with the electoral commission on the 1st day they have been allowed to do so since a coup in 2014 the military government has said that elections which have been postponed several times will take place by Fabry next year. The Israeli police have questioned the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over alleged corruption links to the country's largest telecommunications company he's accused of quick wresting favorable news coverage in return for business concessions Mr Netanyahu who's also being investigated for alleged corruption in several other cases strongly denies any wrongdoing. Fire at a drug rehab unit taken center in Azerbaijan is reported to have killed about 25 people a small number of others have been taken to hospital television pictures show flames leaping through bada windows of single story buildings in the capital Baku the British prime minister to resign may well deliver a long awaited speech later setting out her vision of Britain's trading relationship with the European Union after breaks it she's expected to call for the deepest and broadest possible agreement saying that would be in the interest of both sides a study of people with diabetes in Scandinavia has concluded that the disease has 5 distinct types rather than the 2 currently recognised it was our actors say each a variant has a different cause and I'm a response to different treatments diabetes effects won 11 apples wild wind it's not clear if the findings in Scandinavia holds true for patients elsewhere b.b.c. News. Welcome to the food chain a weekly program about the culture science and business of food. This week we've brought together 3 women who've left the countries they were born in because of conflict genocide or revolution because we want to talk about. And opportunity. When you fled civil war and lost almost everything when you feel disconnected from the culture you were born into because of family friends thousands of miles or when decades after starting a new life in a new country that's still something missing how food might seem only way to reveal we cannot. Build. An explosion my husband office. It's like a shock actually when you feel your life is being threatened. We just wanted a better safe life. 6 years ago. The civil war in Syria with her husband and 3 young children when they arrived in Yorkshire and the North of England that lost almost everything and all the oversoul had a pharmacology she was unable to find work. Maybe when we are really under pressure maybe we have only one chance. Said This will be stronger whatever you listen try to find it to search for the between the words leaving the place where. They're moving to a place where it's really green thinking what we need to do and basically I like cooking I like food I like cheese as well she's one of the important thing on the table should be for breakfast so I really love the milk here and there you. Ok it was very tasty it will be full sweet and creamy all of these factors led her to think about making that she is there. By 2014 with the help of a small startup life resemble dancer manufacture a handmade salty cheese similar to her name. The company Yorkshire damage cheese now produces 5 righties and it's won a number of awards. 5000 miles away not Yon has been working hard to get her own thing business off the ground she was born in a refugee camp in Thailand after her parents fled the genocide in Cambodia in the 1970 s. Shortly afterwards the family emigrated to California when I grew up but in California I was sort of confused who is my identity being Cambodian or American because I grew up very much living as if I was in Cambodia because my parents didn't know any other way and when I finished high school or I've always wanted to learn more about my parents pass out if you survive the genocide and in college that's when I start travelling back to Cambodia I would realize that there's not that many Cambodian restaurant in California or Cambodia culture or history being taught anywhere and so in order to bring some type of awareness here to the Bay I thought you know what better way to tell a story through food and that's how my business started it's called by now by means he tries but it's also a phrase meaning to invite people to eat my mom would always say damn bye to my friends when they would come over let's eat let's eat and so I thought that would be a great perfect business name I started doing catering and pop ups for the last 3 years but recently I just opened my own brick and mortar. Will come back tonight in her restaurant. But 1st let's meet a man down there Moghadam she's from Iran but came to London with her parents as a teenager in the early eighties to escape the uncertainty and violence of the revolution but after 30 years in the u.k. She still felt something was missing through my life here you know of I did. Beauty diploma when we came then I went to university did enter design degree then I got married I had my children but there was always something really strong missing inside me and I had the this great sense of loneliness I felt like I didn't belong to anything and I wasn't particularly religious I didn't have a mosque to go to or a religion to hang on to and I think my daughter could see that I was practicing my traditions so religiously if you like because it was filling that gap for me and that my a touching was to my roots I was hanging on to dear life you know and then one day my daughter planted the seed in my head that well why don't you do cookery lesson you love it so much and you already do it every Sunday the whole family came to my house my parents my brother and what introduced this as a business. 3 women 3 businesses. And I shared experiences tell us. Night and resign or at Lycos you guys and I can California and Yorkshire in the u.k. . Is here with me and I'm to. It was about 3 decades after you arrived in the u.k. That you started this food business do you think that if you become the business in the early eighties when you arrived here you would have had a similar reception and similar success with it only only 2 years ago I went to Iran after 35 years and I think something at this age I was desperate to connect to my roots and I could understand it better now as a mother as a woman in you know coming to my 50 and I could really understand it better and appreciate it now than when I was a teenager I think Reza and for you that it was almost immediate you arrived in the u.k. As a refugee from Syria you had fled or such a difficult situation and yet very very quickly you decided to start a food business do you think that this is because there was a different climate people were more ready to accept food from different cultures or to acknowledge the contribution that refugees and migrants can make or is this about desperation you have to think of something quickly it could be a little bit of wharfs actually not of these people in the u.k. More aware about the diversity and they love their different types of food actually they became more foodie more health a more awareness about tastes so very well educated actually and I hope I can feel that when whenever I'm in any markets or face to those I'm selling the cheese I come across cross lotsof sophisticated questions at the same time actually starting the food business as I've been under really pressure because. For me it's I've got too much options actually when I came here I thought at the beginning to continue my degree and in pharmacy and was very hard for me as they didn't count me as a home student so I cannot get any loan I am. Qualified what I cannot find anything this is really make myself like I need to go to different direction like here I think the flexibility in their personality show you or led you to different direction the major motivation was actually seeing my kids growing the kids when they are growing you cannot tell them stop now don't grow because I'm not in the good situation financially or psychologist play for me this is was the hardest point when I look at them they are growing and we just lost everything what's what we managed what we wanted to do for them what we dreamed I got married in 2008 we left Syria in 2012 so when we just had 3 kids and we were just managed our house and we built it up to be suit our kids and how we want our kids to grow and then we need to leave everything maybe this is one of the important things made me really run just swearing as I sayed sports shoes and keep running. Has growing a thing business being particularly important does it keep you connected to the country that you live yes actually because this is the thing which I really liked in food in cooking there is a chemistry actually which is commiserate of love because not everybody who makes food can success even if you had the same recipe and they want make the same dish at the end because in cooking you out something from your personality from your own thoughts actually in Syria we used to invite lots of people to our house and I always love to cook for them and each weekend I used to have about 2025 guests preparing organizing creating something new for them I enjoyed setting up the menus go for the shopping when we came here actually the thing I really missed is being socialized. I remember one day in one of the workshops I told the lady who's sitting next to me she wanted to set up a business told her please talk to me I need friends I need someone to talk to me I remember that was really hard maybe know how I was smiling but that time it was really hurting me because I lost everything so this is maybe why I went through the food business because this is the thing which I really loved the most important moment for me when I cook I usually don't eat I just look at people because I really enjoy how they are smiling complaining and then they start to ask how did you do this this looks different what have you here this is a different our secret they save so this is actually the most made me going into the food I think your next venture should be cooking this. This is one of the things actually now I'm doing some recipe for. You know like Does this resonate with you yet because for it's very important for connecting you to your family and where you're from definitely wanting to reconnect with my culture was also one of the biggest passion of wire started by and also to inspire younger can broaden generations to also pursue their dream and to have a place where they could come and reconnect with their culture as well because growing up my parents didn't talk too much about their experience when they fled Cambodia or growing up in Cambodia these were stories that they didn't want to share because it was too painful but as I was developing and starting my business my parents slowly opened up and I learned more about my parents when I went back to Cambodia as well but now that I have the space I hope that the younger generations would want to come and get to know their parents or ask their parents about their experience in Cambodia. Is there ever a tension between your business and the emotion you think about the food that you Kirk you know is tied up with wealth all of your memories of her more memories of family but the decisions you make also need to be based on business is there any tension there sometimes between making money and and reflecting where you come from in the beginning and when I started the business I only introduced safe dishes I would say like rice plates with barbecue meats are in you know dishes that similar to a lot of people because I was afraid that people might not come and try the food because the cosine is still not known until a lot of people and the longer that I was in the business I realized that you know what I'm just going to start cooking the food that I grew up eating funny enough that's the dishes that made me very successful and those are the dishes that people come to try at my restaurant can you give us any examples of those dishes some dishes required for men to fish paste caught provoke and it has a very funky smell but without the help Cambodian food wouldn't be the same and so there's a depth that I use that has a lot of the for for help that fermented fish base with humans and it's a pork belly and coconut milk and you dip it with vegetables and that is very very popular at the restaurant right now and there's also a soup where you put a lot of the fish paste as well on with. Like a lemon grass Curry pace that also does really well south of the nation's Montana when it comes to Persian flavors some of them might be quite unfamiliar to the palate Yes Yes How have you dealt with that you just throw them all out there any way or do you try to soften some of those flavors 1st I was thinking more vegetarian I was good of like putting mom or something like that. But I had to be true to myself I had to be true to what the traditional Persian cooking and not not fusion or modern or European version because to me was about culture and tradition one thing I always tell my I don't call them clients like they're my guests my guest when they come for cooking lesson is that they often expect to see a lot of. Spices as in Chile or a cake of spice into the food and spices in Persian cooking is all just with aroma and very delicate saw from being the main one rose petals cardamom and a lot of flour flour water as large as such as orange blossom so it's very romantic present for you you're making Halimi cheese which is very popular in the u.k. Already sake it is already very popular in Europe and particularly in the u.k. Say perhaps you didn't have that problem of different tastes but whether any cultural differences in how you do business that you came across honestly I found it easier here. You might think How could I find it easier but I find didn't find people difficulties in accepting that here was easy to market your food how did the marketing side of things work because there's a lot on your website about your own story yes that's a big part of it absolutely because being like people when they know that that she's was the result of a story of drive. Of going out of for and just sister to work and stand up and keep going the support I had is fantastic but are you a bit wary of that in some ways because this is about the product it is about it is about both actually because to sell the product you need really to have a good product and if the story behind. Is firing then that will increase the cells that will help as well to sell it out nights How do you feel about this about your personal story and your business are you happy for the 2 things to sit side by side or you wary of so of this not worry at all I think it goes hand in hand because the story is what makes up my business and also the food without my story I don't think can buy would exist at all because they are going more about why I started the food they're more interested and the cuisine and the culture as well and that has always been the main goal is to educate into bring awareness to convert in culture through food and so I mean I love it. A quick reminder you're listening to the fee chain on the b.b.c. World Service with me Emily tell us. This week we've been talking about food and opportunity I'm joined by 3 business owners resign after this a Syrian living in the u.k. Who runs Yorkshire damage she's not owner of Cambodian restaurants and I am by California and Montana Moghadam he runs Persian cookery classes and supper clubs in London. 03 of you have very different perspectives and come from a different places but do you have any worries about the political climate at the moment and how this will affect people coming from those countries as they try to set up businesses do you think things are changing of the changing for the better they changing for the worse what's your sense much much easier now than when I came in 984 when I came to you k. But England is very multi cultural So in that sense well I never felt. As an outsider really but now it's the world of cooking and the role world of food and people are interested to find out about different cultures different taste is growing so fast you just need to walk in London streets and is mind blowing the amount of restaurants you see one better than the other the competition to come up with something. Something interesting some new cultures some new taste and people are thirsty for it and night is that your take on things to say that there's going to be more opportunities for migrants and refugees I believe so yes in the Bay Area time scale in Oakland there's a lot of organization and programs that inspire and that support immigrant entrepreneurs I was in an organization called La casino the cannot profit organization that help incubates woman of minority of immigrants and callers to support start their own business and so there's a few more incubator programs like this that are opening up across California so I do believe that there's more opportunities for migrants and immigrants refugees this is people home coming here with one suitcase they've got nothing to lose so for them they've got they would be very in their take and think now I have. I have given and now the chance to live so I can prove it so what I couldn't do before I can do now it's another chance of life have any of you got any advice for people that come to a new country I want to start a faith business was to be learnt along the way food is a tool actually in today's clime political climate to connect people together it's a great language that we share amongst each other no matter no matter what it's the one thing that we all do we sit around the table and we share this activity together and learn other people's culture by eating with them is the best way you find other brother personality you find out about their culture and anyone who wants to start this business if you're full heartedly going in it it will always win. I think my advice that whoever wants to start a business when you are dreaming Just let your imaginary going everywhere all small details but once you start to put it on paper and then you will break it down into steps I think you've got all the chance you've got no limitation just work it as you wanted because you can do it listen to everybody and make yourself aware about what's going on and nights was about you there will be a lot of hard work your have nights you won't have any sleeps working 1618 hours a day but you have to and then you will be disappointed or you come across a certain challenge but then you can't give up because if it is your dream to pursue your own business then you have to be willing to work hard and then there will be people that will tell you that that will question your abilities but you have to go against that and record. Hard to achieve what you really want to get definitely go against people advising you not to do it. All 3 of you have moved away from the country we're born and what kind of meaning disfavored have for you in your lives and on my God it's just my hair just stood out when you said that because I. Everything everything because it's not food as in putting something in your mouth and chewing it is the traditions the ceremonies and the food that goes with these ceremonies is the connection to your roots there are certain smells that always remind me of a wedding that is Nigella sees that we burn for for keeping the genocide away but that with the smell of tuberose flour. For me these 2 I'm imagining reading in the garden in Persia is just like the road to my school the little snacks the street food it takes me back there nights what about you I mean just like Madonna fear it is everything food. Reminds me where I'm from reminds me of my parents struggle reminds me of their sacrifice food. Can start dialogues food can connect people food can and bring back sweet better memories it really. Doesn't make any oh yes. It's a healing medicine. Resign Is there anything you want about the yeah I think the food can make really happiness because this is remind you with gathering as mundane as haid not just the gathering even the tradition actually the food the way you make it the way you serve it this is like we are in Syria usually we make big dish then we need to pass dishes cooperating together to share the food you can pass with this you can do it so it's the whole atmosphere of the family all of that talking about civilisation it will talk about culture happy it's and all of that will be definitely linked with back home have you got any questions for each other . Like you know all the different backgrounds you know. I can see like in. In for your cheese business for example Rosa. That reminds me more off my parents that when they came here they had to they had to like look after me and find a place to live and I think I really I really. Connect with your struggles. But I think I also connect with the fact also when night was saying hard working and be prepared because I think something about us refugees and I think this was a wonderful lesson this is a great thing that happened in my life because it makes us tough you know it makes us you know you have to survive there's not Uncle how Letty Yes there's not an uncle house next door that you could go and ask for help or this is you and you've got to make it and. Sometimes this pressure actually is good for you because it's a good experience because you think I'll go for it I'll go for it you know you've got nothing to lose like exactly right yeah I think night experience I really like it how to introduce and you think because introduce a comfort food which is not true used to it's a big challenge and I bet there are hard work actually behind how to educate people on because obviously sooner or how cut how you are growing how you are go over it so it's fantastic we should all get together and have a long chat day after day we need to make an Ice me like you know Syrian food and I was. Very. Keen. That so for this week many thanks to resign I'll say this and Montana my dad. Let us know what you think about what you've heard find us on social media using the hash tag b.b.c. Feed Jane or I'm on Twitter at Emily Thomas b.b.c. . And remember all at the sides of the fee chain are of able to download search for b.b.c. 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