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Very good thank you everybody says egg and men he told me he told me when we came on is it going to end founded in 1905 Arkansas record cd exchange in North Little Rock Arkansas 3 years later this newly formed business unfortunately burned to the ground destroying all its precious one of a kind inventory through friends and family donations Mr Eek inten hung in there and rebuilt his music memorabilia store now and for the last 3 decades it in time has been buying selling and trading vinyl records C.D.'s cassettes 70 eight's 8 tracks and reel to reel tapes as big box stores scaled back on a music Arkansas record cd exchange found an opportunity to feel a market niche today his store offers the widest selection of new original and reissued titles on both vinyl and cd Arkansas record and cd exchange has been reported to have over one 100045 single records more than 70000 albums and in addition there are autographed concert programs a giant kiss Dall neon some electric trains and other pop culture memorabilia it's been said Arkansas record and cd exchanges like a museum where everything's for sale is a pleasure to welcome to the table the passionate music collector and eccentric businessman Mr bill is going to and joining us today at the table is Bill's longtime friend and well known d.j. Mr Tom Wood from Tom f.m. And the old magic one of 5 station before we get to how you guys know each other when I asked Bill about his life before he founded the record store because that's where everything picked up everything I read about you began in 1905 when your daughter Flora. Was born and you opened your business Arkansas record in cd exchange but it was Bill for that well it's just it's just a guy that was kind of lost in Minnesota and. Graduated high school in 71 joined the carnival it's really kind of over 3 years I was a right right Foreman descrambler And then after that I started bartending and I bartended I mean to manage this nightclub in Minnesota that was his biggest the. Sticky Fingers this and booking all kinds of big shows Dionne was our biggest and Jerry Lewis the Playboys grassroots and at the time it was in the mid seventy's to 980 when I met a lady that was singing in the bar her name was Bahraini. And. She was from Arkansas and we got along well enough to know she said you want to chance it to come to Arkansas and I said well there's a double a y. And there must be some great people down there because it might be 10 I know uselessly because street in northern Minnesota at night did all kinds of things that night there. And we came down here and I met. Her parents and eventually got married and had a child Flora were just I was born you know total of 84 the week we were over not the record store in and I got a job down here bartending in 1000 a Finally John Barleycorn bartender Shorty Smalls bartender and makes coats Kyoto and managed. Risk career which barber knew she wasn't lives in town and she plays the ukulele she does some background vocals for a lot of artists and so Barbara you 1st came here you managed her career but you somehow got to know all these guys on the radio station How did you all get the movie started promoting people in the nightclubs and you through the night clubs you meet people in radio you want to get your stuff on the air and get the music played and we met the producer and and then I one day I came home and I said I rented a building because I've always wanted to have a record store and the lady came up to me her name was with Kosky and it's in a building I mean not I'm still in the building and she says you're going to sell used records in a levy. I'm sure going to try. And I rented the building and took care of my daughter down there raised her down there at the store and on May 14th May 13th 1907 was my birthday we had a party down there May 14th. Burned down the donut shop caught on fire and I got my daughter out and. Hartman took care of the rest. But thanks to all my friends and support there are no but they could do I was the captain of the ship and my friends . Would imagine what a 5 and 3 dimensionally He's manager of the store know he's been there for 5 years he's been with me since that time and there are several people that were there at the far or before the far there are still friends not to still come to happy hour every night when I told Tom that you were coming on the radio he said. You do have a lot of loyal. I am very blessed to have you know the kind of friends I have so let's go back to your childhood a little bit your mother called at the carnival and asked him to come get you well you have to come pick you up. But she know that it was a it was a ad in the paper said wanted drivers wanted she said My son can do that yeah well it was pretty serious I mean it was like going through the service I mean you know I learned the difference between right and wrong and there and there was no and everybody gets along that no matter who you are you're nice person an honest person or not anything else did manage to do that 3 years why did you quit it was hard work and I just didn't have enough money to buy a ride and they were did you travel around you know each other on the state of Minnesota and what's the weirdest thing that ever happened to. You again this week . As a carnie what was weirdest thing it probably ever happened I don't know there are things that happened that I really can't tell you that it's weird. When it comes to my mind as we used to go up and up the carnival early at 10 o'clock in the morning because the people at the state hospital would come out and they were and they'd have helmets on has been boxing gloves protect themselves and they and we want to ride the rides and this guy got on America or on the Ferris wheel. And he got told to stay back stay back anywhere. There's lots of stories like that. Bridge Minnesota what you learned not to do. I learned the need to show up for work . And be responsible I disagree place to take a break come back we'll continue our conversation with the music collector founder of the Arkansas record and cd exchange in Northern Rock Arkansas Well talk about his inventory and the business of collecting and we'll get Bill and Tom talking about the good old days and how the music industry have today has changed We'll be back after the break. 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Carry. Your Business with make carry McCoy names begin the day with music collector Mr Bill founder of Arkansas record cd exchange in North Little Rock Arkansas and joining us is Bill's long. Time friend d.j. Tom Wood for the break we talked to Bill was a cool. In that he said Mama get the money out for drinking too much when he was about 8 the road in Minnesota did you know I was 16 years old and I had to Carmel 1st time driving a semi truck and we learned. That we are kind of what he learned about that and you met your wife there who happened to be singing Barbara Bodine she was from Arkansas and came down here and I visited down here and it was in November and I got here in 76 degrees out of the out on the deck I'm going to I'm not going back. To head for a bowl for a couple of weeks you'll have you know if you like take the heat any time yeah so the 1st thing you did you did open your record store right off the bat you know I was promoting Barbara's career and working as a bartender. And and Tom Wood and David Allen roster one of 5 because I was looking for records collecting records and I talked to David on Ross he said you need to talk to Tommy Smith Tom Smith said You can talk to Tom What. Would I give up no phone time or trick usually work didn't work on you I said Yeah I said I don't care I'll take any record you know stuff you're not using extra copies and he said this guy won't gold throws of some records that are this is how he originally stocked up his record store was he was going to the radio station and you have just hundreds probably thousands of albums and 40 five's and stuff and it was kind of like the seed beginnings Yeah it was current stuff it was just extra catalog stuff and when I started in the records you got to understand that the store we started it was the 3rd size it is now I start with 150 records of my own records and so any kind influx we got was great. And then Tom and I got together by doing Navidad to get this ad campaign where I had this great idea and not in my wildest minute I think. A big city was and how big the as much pub busy time and it was but you guys that's a good idea Bill I'll do that with you and we sat down and wrote these ads together that aired on the radio and they brought people in what kind what were they for your records show on your next door and it was just an unusual kind of ad because it was the 2 of us like having a conversation than talking about what the store was going to be like in this is a brand new venture for him back then and it really did catch the year people but speeches around the peach record store he doesn't discount and Jack Carter was head of peaches and discount and he was very very cordial to me he put our business cards on both his Conner's and said as long as if they didn't happen he sent people to us so it's a friendly were it was a friendly competitor and yes what was your vision for your store when you started your bartending you're making a fine living your wife making a fine living. It wasn't fun live and live in a 2030 bucks a night in tips it was a blessing that I was making that but it was a far from a fun I mean what was your vision for the store what was what got it started in your mind what we've what we think I visited record stores all over the country and I wanted to have a record so you're going to and you could have a selection of 45 piece posters and just have what I wanted in a record store was collectibles and cater to a ride variety of people not just a certain select metal people or just or just hip hop people or just country people that would cover Oh it was her idea of everyone or your parents musicians know how did you find this love music. They put me in front of a record player when I was 4 years old in a stack of records and told me to enjoy myself so people probably listening don't realize the digital before the digital world what a radio station was like Tom was a radio station well you had all the music was on vinyl you know when you would have little card catalogs that would divide the music into various categories and the program director would say Ok In the course of an hour if we're a rock station we're going to play 2 songs from the a category one song from the b. Category 2 songs from the c. Category and we'd have taken all that music and separate it into categories based on the era it was from and whether it was faster or slower we want to balance out the hour but it was up to the dependability of the guys on the air to follow that system because it wasn't computerized literally you had a shoe box with file cards and the name of the song the name of the artist and how long the song was and you're supposed to play the 1st one you play if you put it in the back and that's how you would rotate all the music and you would constantly have to refresh the collection of vinyl that you had because when you cue up a song on a turntable you're literally turning it backwards with the needle already on the groove so that it's half a turn from the beginning of the song so that I can say it's $65.00 degrees of magic want to 5 years Buffalo Springfield and when I let go of the turntable it starts running and I know how long it's going to be before the song actually starts well that 1st few seconds of the song you've ground that stylus into the vinyl so many times that after a while the beginning of every song. Is like that so you constantly have to refresh those those pieces of vinyl and Bill is a source for all of that stuff and kind of in return we give him his pick of what stuff we didn't need at the radio station yeah it worked out great because we need stuff and. And they get classic records that they're looking for there wasn't any you couldn't download at that time you actually had to have find the hard copy record to play so I was viable there at that time you know you were good more than viable you were like essential one of the things that you do when you go to appearances for rock station is that you're always giving away music you're trying to get people to come to Arkansas flag and Banner because you're having a 4th of July sale and you've hired a disc jockey to come out there and play music and be at the store well when those people come hopefully they're going to buy your product but you also want to give them prizes for just showing up you know radio station prizes and they never want the new cd or the new album that you've got to give away they always want old classic stuff and for the longest time we didn't have any of that to give away because the record companies won't give us library product but we would go to Bill and we trade out advertising and come back to the radio station with $100.00 cool old albums I'm talking about Blue Oyster Cult and Rolling Stones and Beatles albums and when people would come to the events that we would do like a flag and banner a car dealer they freak out it be like shopping for a cool double but it was free just because you came to our event and we never could have done that without bill so you were really at that time filling a niche that you knew the radio stations had so far happened you found a niche you created a relationship with all the radio stations in town. Doing commercials together and you have a birthday party and the donut shop next door catches fire in the us in the street at 1 o'clock in the afternoon. It was terrible you know my friends and rallied around me and I just wanted to captain of the ship and I told him what I needed done when Fitzgerald was building racks and you Harris was subcontract in the play . Grace help I mean and all these people are still wrong help and today you moved it down the street for a couple of years. We opened 5 days later after the farm a $9980.00. 7 San cross Follow me a new location while building was still smoldering and when we opened May 19th and with 100 records a telephone and a little table for my daughter to sit on and we were there till December 1st 1908 when the shopping center reopened and I rented the building and we started building new racks down there took a while to build all the new racks It's unbelievable what it looks like inside today I took pictures of it inside is the cleanest most organized store I've ever been and I thought I'm going to go in and it's going to be this haphazard looking to shoveled memorabilia place it's stain it's organized it's labeled I took pictures out post next week with your podcast just know people how nice it is thank you I really really appreciate you coming by to see you today because it meant a lot that you really were taking a much interest in not just having us up here for the show but that you actually see what the store looks like it's a great place so Tom do you remember where you were when you heard that his place had burned I was probably at the radio station because of course happened in the daytime was like an overnight fire I think all of us would immediately think that that's what happens when Meyers take places happens in the middle like. I mentioned we started getting phone calls right away and try to figure out how can we help what can we do and he just open the bikes and start talking to the people let's let's real local radio to try to rally forces around some place that everybody loves that was the best press I ever had I got more coverage that day than ever. The best worst president ever had what to everybody as soon as the phone got hooked back up there was Caller How could they tell and and they did their records came in and of course there was always a guy who would walk in I just would have you were actually just had like 200 records in Florida so you go to the library. I mean give me really take a look at. There. Today the radios changed it's all digital where the records come from today Well there's been this big resurgence in the environment in the last 4 or 5 years and there are 180 grams. Is way to vinyl we've got 56 different distributors across the United States of the cell new vinyl and so. Reed has already the new stuff and it has a good job with that is a good place to take a break I want to come back talk about Reed is working with you now when we come back we'll continue our conversation with music collector Mr bill is going to the founder of Arkansas record and cd exchange North Little Rock Arkansas if you do are a music lover of old and new recordings this is the man to talk to blacken banner dot com is proud to sponsor up in your business with Carrie McCoy the flag and Banner dot com is so much more than a flag story housed in a 100 year old building in downtown Little Rock Arkansas we offer an old school shopping experience with 3 front door parking friendly clerics and department store variety bring your old flag and a flag and Banner dot com and receive $5.00 off a new one while there browse our respite Farm to Table home decor patriotic clothing jewelry party supplies and festive dishware add a pop of color to your walkway with our seasonal garden banners and door hangers can't make it downtown Don't worry the Internet never closes you can always browse our website 247 and live chat during office hours with customer service representatives that are eager to help you and if on line shopping is that you are saying call our customer service experts bailable by phone 6 days a week stop by flag and Banner dot com and pick up a few nautical flags for your boat spell your name or the name of your boat with international signal flags a whole a from Flag and Banner dot com. You're listening to your business with maker McCoy and I'm speaking today with music collector a good time founder of Arkansas record cd exchange in North Little Rock Arkansas and joining us today is d.j. Tom Wood so. Now we've come full circle and let's talk about evolution of music you started your record store when vinyl was popular then it went to cd did you think oh my gosh I'm going to go out of business what I was thinking is that I had these records for all these years there was never anything wrong with records and so I just kept stockpiling when people were selling them like by the by the pickup load and I kept buying more and more records and of course we're buying C.D.'s Tube as well but every store in town Sorry carry a cd Circuit City and Best Buy Target all these other stores are carrying T.V.'s and so we didn't sell as many but we had used ones which was a novelty then there's only other other record store there in town of the time it's been around records John Harrison been there 37 years still still there you know but did you think though oh my goodness the industry is changing so much they're going to one day have everything on their i Pod and no one's going to buy records again I still don't own an i Pod and. I just I just felt that there are you know people and nothing older and people interested I would be interested spinning records or cassettes or compact discs or reel to reel or there were some medium that people would still want to hard copy the stuff and fortunately I was made it this far and now people are buying records we encourage them to shop locally because they don't have to pay for their merchandise before they buy it in our store like you do online you've got to buy it on you have to pay upfront so you get to see what you're buying 1st you get to talk to me or read and get some input about music or talk about concerts or talk about what new releases are new get a lot more feedback a lot more interaction you said it went from vinyl to cd you're right it went from vinyl to C.D.'s and then it went to the computer and then the C.D.'s dropped off and now that it's back to records again. You know it's quite a ride and so I've seen people that. Have said they haven't come in in 20 years and they use a ringer they said their dad used to bring him in and I don't know how I'm going to get to the part my grandpa used to bring. You might so when I took a picture of your place today when I was down there and I sent it to a bunch of people back at work when we got in the car and after I'd driven off I got all these texts from people saying pick me up Carole King's Tapestry album are there do you have that yes ma'am we would do for a new copy when any grammarian she was sure we do unless someone bought a between the time we saw you today and now. We would carry like one copy of everything unless it's very popular and one carries multiple copies when other stores are not selling as much music. You're gearing up and selling more and we're trying to get some more in but the thing about people ask me no records really picked up no Door Into Summer because I said yes we are but now you've got to realize that now Barnes and Noble and books and being interrogated and Dillard's Guitar Center everybody's selling records you know you know yeah I thought everybody would quit selling snow you know they all got them now and see they quit selling C.D.'s and so not people are coming in because people say what's on cd so we carry all that so careful on a cd for those people that can't find it anywhere because no the other stores court to quit carrying those C.D.'s and we're back in a stock and those having grown up with vinyl and had knowing what Tom was talking about when I get right it down I don't know what that word is when your cue burned . Your money. Why do people want vinyl again I think. It's the sound yeah there's a warmth to it that you don't get some the digital recordings in stock compressed it has a good percentage of the reproduction is better you've got to have a good stereo I mean that's the whole idea you have to have you can't go out Target and buy a $79.00 box and play C.D.'s cassettes and record sing going to listen you're going to feel this Elvis is great you know the thing is like for to take a picnic you got to have a good amplifier speakers and in turntable and in a good cartridge and you hear a lot better sound like Tom said it's a warmer sound it's a full it's a deeper sound and it's not compressed some people have kept all that equipment in good shape in their lives you know they invested years ago decades ago in good stereo components and they've kept it up but there's other people who are just now getting into the vinyl wave and they're investing brand new in that kind of equipment just like the stores are starting to carry vinyl when they hadn't carried music in a long time I would imagine there are some stores are going to start carrying components Yeah I. I think you're right but there are so many components and it's so confusing I tell people here you know we tell what we know what we have to get on line and do you get into a chat room and talk and see just what your budget is and what is the best value you can buy for kind of like buying a car you want to buy a geo Honda or a Lamborghini Lamborghini or you can spend $50000.00 on a turntable Oh wow or else you can spend $5.00 to $600.00 to get a really good one wait just turned the big do. It's the quality of it in the lack of Rumpole and just the perception of the instrument really is what it is and I'm like you I would never go out and spend a $1000.00 on a turntable you know there's something in there out there that's perfectly suitable for me for a few $100.00 Tom did you keep your records I didn't keep any record I have all the Beatles stuff just because I'm a fan and I've got a maybe a few select other things but you know at the peak when I had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of personally own records I couldn't even tell you what I did with them I sold my garage sale they probably ended up at your shop bill maybe you know they ended up on e Bay. Do you what's your favorite genre or do you have all I think my favorite type of music is Dionne No wonder this run around so late fifty's early sixty's somebody waters Frank Zappa that kind of stuff when you own a record store you have eclectic taste so you had a full time manager Mr Reed Mitchell Tell us about that I asked Reid actually to come on today with that with the guys and he said I could even have to run the stuff. You know he's doing a great job done here where we've been known him since the eighty's he came in before the fire or used to work at radio station and southern Arkansas and we got hooked up with Tom Wood and he got on the matter one of 5 Any we'd come in fill in for me and different times and he worked very we helped each other move a couple of times we've been to concerts several concerts together and there's several things he remembers that I don't. As a matter of fact in September 30th of his 5 year anniversary of being a full time manager I never would have guessed has been that long but he told me I didn't think it was that long but we get along very well and know what love music together we're talking and it's just like being in high school together talking he said you know every day about this band and he's put He's always playing playing out some new music some new groups he wouldn't believe all the good music. That's being is out there today it's now being played because there's no radio station that supports any kind of new music that's what I want to say well let's to it that's not part of the big machine you know if it's a new Taylor Swift they're going to play it but these these bands who that are just artists they're true artists and they're jollier of music there's not an outlet in commercial radio for him some places only have a list of and not as many as many records in there so much music to do here what's the answer. Well the answer is loaded haven't already your station and put some deejays on it but as soon as I start to get down to Pine Bluff Don and Spike a couple 1000000 I'll put that in don't you think that's what the b.f. Is yes that's that's the that's the flag bearer for what Bill's talking about we're extremely lucky in a city this size to have such an active community radio station because they really do have shows it might only be a couple hours a week but it's people who are passionate about new music and it's really good so I went to this website called vinyl me where you were voted the best record store in Arkansas by I know may dot com They did a best record stores in America campaign and they said in their best list is what they set quote These aren't necessarily the record stores with the best prices or the deepest selection you can use Yelp for that and they continued with each record store featured as a story that goes beyond its own shelves these stories have history Boster sense of community and something to the people who frequent them. That's a perfect description of the Arkansas river to see the exchange they go on to say this about your store that's what they said about your story like that it's part record store Mecca collector's paradise and sanctuary for those who not only need their vinyl fix but need to talk with other weary travelers who get why an Evil Knievel lunchbox and a vintage j.j. Cale album matter more than ever in the digital streaming. This great Spradlin is the man there wrote this article. Very very kind words he's very colorful and he writes some really funny things about Arkansas I really enjoyed this article I'll put a link to it on flag and better dot com it's vinyl Me dot com and it's a really fun article not just about your store but about Arkansas all together and he lists all the great musicians we've had here Johnny Cash Sister Rosetta live on him Charlie Rich Al Green Pharoah Sanders Glen Campbell I mean we had a lot of important musicians and there's a lot and there's a lot of current guys that are great to go Franklin someone help me think of all these guys with the entire group the salty dogs What an amazing new album is yet Nick Devlin frankly all these guys been playing. Bonnie. Bonnie macam rain yes Charlotte Yes ls listen. You know I talk to people we've got now. And Amy Carla Karimi Garland are this a great place to take a break we only got about 5 or 7 minutes we come back we're going to continue our conversation with music collector bail it Intan founder of Arkansas record cd exchange in North Little Rock Arkansas and his friend d.j. 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Tickets available at Dream Land ballroom dot org for the 10th annual dancing into dreamland your listening to open your business with may carry McCoy I'm speaking today with music collector Mr Bill Egan 10 founder of Arkansas record cd exchange in North Little Rock Arkansas and his longtime friend and local d.j. Mr Tom what is joining us at the table there you said but the growing interest in vinyl and the addition of a full time manager you're ready for the next 30 years what does that look like. And it's looking good and a young wife let's just go and say this is wonderful used to work our butts off like a banner shout out to Rachel I didn't realize until today that you were married to my coworker Rachel Yeah so what a blessing I've been I've lived a blessed life I'm very thankful but the record store what's the outlook is we're just going to keep going and see what happens keep it on the market we've always based our inventory on people walking through that door what are people that's what we get and we try to do the best we can as far as servicing the public and being very supportive of local musicians and do whatever I can do your hours we're open on Tuesday through Saturday at 11 to 7 Do you know what site yes we do it's a r.c.t. Dot com Can you buy records there no we don't have it we don't have a list of our stuff on a be impossible it would absolutely be impossible. Yeah I've often told people that you're welcome to start typing and I'll give you a percentage as I said. That would be a lifelong job so you're open Tuesday through Saturday through Saturdays and you don't open to what time and I don't know Levin o'clock to stay it was just 7 so that's interesting and that's good to see people get off work I always figure people that I forget 5 and want to stop by and pick some music up after after work that's right and so we like doing that way and there's always happy hour at 5 so you're going to sell a lot more product between $5.00 and 7 pm that he would between 9 and 11 am So your hours are perfect I know I am. What you want your legacy to be I guess or I think it is just that we contributed to North Little Rock. And be able to brought something to Arkansas that that there wasn't and that we made a lot of friends just real thankful that everyone's been so supportive over the years and and been blessed that I've been able to stick it out I always wanted to record store my whole life and I always said if I ever got the chance I was going to lose it and I'm in the good Lord has seen me through so you got a lot of good friends indeed I do now what do you plan to do with all your inventory in your memorabilia when you retire what I thought when I walked in there I thought Oh your poor daughter what is she going to do I think payloader is what's going to happen. After I can't stand up and there anymore they're just going to come in with a big shovel and just shell it all. Now it's been for sale a store has been for sale since 1970 since that day it opened it and everything for sale for the right guy and sell a couple of whites but I'd like to I would like to sell it I mean I'm $66.00 now I mean I always thought I'd always be there till the end but now that I've got this new. Venture I don't like to spend some time together with her and he had beautiful picture yes so you have been very very very long then I got 3 years and January been together 6 years can I bring up something before you close out I get to hear this show every single week as I edit the pod casts and I get to work with though everybody is like a banner and one of the things that I hear you talk about all these interviews Carrie and it's really true is the self starting mechanism that entrepreneurs have to have and how they're I remember specifically recently we're talking to somebody who said oh I've been lucky and you said no no you made your own luck when those lucky things came along if you were laying on your couch you want to be able to take advantage of them and I never has long as I've known Bill I'd never heard the story about working at the carnival but the thing that I think is most interesting about that is how. He said It's like the service you learn to be immediately responsible for what it is you've got to get done that day you got to be there on time you got to count on other people to do their job that's the definition of being able to be a responsible dream come true Making person he had a dream ever record store without that background or what happened I kept thinking that as he was telling that story. Well said Tom thank you Tom we've been friends a long time and it's been great Any advice you want to give to young people who are who want to get in the music business come on down I got us I got it set up for you I got record staves and I'll be happy to help you get started he said that Reed is there now that you can just go for ever so I don't see I said when I was down there today I said Look at all the stuff down there and look at all that inventory it turned to be honest a bill you can't possibly make any money down here. Yeah well we'll make it we make enough money to enjoy what we're doing and that's been very good so I've been able to make enough money for that. And if you ask those guys for anything if you go in there and say you want Dusty Springfield album say getting the right word is the rap it's our Black Label it doesn't matter country whatever All right we have a gift for your dad but here's the deal about this gift I don't know if you're going to really even know what it is because I asked you earlier about Dreamland ballroom and you didn't know what it was and I just knew being a music guy you would know about the dreamland borrow on the 3rd floor of the Arkansas flag and Banner building it's where so many great musicians played in the 19 forty's and fifty's it was on the chitlin circuit Duke Ellington Etta James Ella Fitzgerald necking Co Louis Armstrong he was there he said at the stage there that they're playing us and we're you have got to come see it you have to come see you should come to dancing in dreamland on November the 15th that's our big fundraiser what a year but I got you because I figured you know about it I got you a t. Shirt to the dreamland ballroom and the to Borean hall all right so next week we're having a reprisal of both written for those interview and he will thank you you're welcome you should listen Dale he's a rockabilly musician right here in Arkansas you retarded here but Springs he rocks it out he's a rockabilly guy it is good stuff thanks again for joining me and my guest Thanks everybody out there thanks for joining and listening to me my guest today thank you for having me enjoyed it Tom thanks for joining us you bet is fun for those listeners who might have a great entrepreneurial story they'd like to share some debris bio in your contact info to me carry it Flag Man or dot com and some want to be in touch and to all thank you for spending time with us we hope you've heard or learned something that's been inspiring or enlightening in that it whatever it is will help you up your business your independence or your life I'm Carrie McCoy and I'll see you next time on up in your business until then be bright and keep it up you've been listening to up in your business with Terry McCoy for links to resources. 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