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The premise of the show is simple. Every week the same. Tonight, each host gets 60s to outline their argument about their chosen topic , and then we all chosen topic, and then we all pile in. And of course, we want to know your views as well. Please do get in touch throughout the show by emailing gbviews gbnews. Uk. But before we all other all start tearing each other apart at it is your saturday night bethany elsey. Night news with bethany elsey. Good evening. Im bethany elsey wish good evening. Im bethany elsey with your good evening. Im bethany elsey wrrrs your rop good evening. Im bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb with your top stories from the es newsroom with your top stories from the gb newsroom. With your top stories from the gb newsroom. The Prime Minister, gb newsroom. The Prime Minister, rorsrrr gb newsroom. The Prime Minister, rorsrrr soror gb newsroom. The Prime Minister, rishi sunak and gb newsroom. The Prime Minister, rishi sunak and other International Leaders have expressed International Leaders have expressed their condolences errer expressed their condolences after indias expressed their condolences after indias worst rail orsosrer after indias worst rail disaster for after indias worst rail disaster for decades. At least zes disaster for decades. At least zss peopre disaster for decades. At least 288 people have disaster for decades. At least 288 people have been killed and oun 288 people have been killed and ouno soo 288 people have been killed and around 850 injured in the oeeroenr around 850 injured in the accident in around 850 injured in the accident in the around 850 injured in the accident in the eastern state of oorsno accident in the eastern state of oorsno. Accident in the eastern state of odisha. Three accident in the eastern state of odisha. Three trains were odisha. Three trains were rnroueo odisha. Three trains were rnvoueo. Odisha. Three trains were involved. Two odisha. Three trains were involved. Two passenger trains involved. Two passenger trains eouroeo involved. Two passenger trains collided when involved. Two passenger trains collided when one derailed, and born collided when one derailed, and born rnen collided when one derailed, and both then crashed collided when one derailed, and both then crashed into a goods nun both then crashed into a goods rrorn. Both then crashed into a goods rrorn. Nons both then crashed into a goods train. Indias Prime Minister train. Indias Prime Minister uorenoro train. Indias Prime Minister Narendra Modi train. Indias Prime Minister Narendra Modi has vowed to nunrsn Narendra Modi has vowed to punrsn nonve Narendra Modi has vowed to punish anyone responsible. I sorro punish anyone responsible. I sure runo punish anyone responsible. I sajid javid nana. 2 sajid javid nana. I am deeply pained. Sajid javid nana. I am deeply porneu. Ns sajid javid nana. I am deeply pained. Its beyond sajid javid nana. 2 22 its beyond sad and very pained. Its beyond sad and very orsrurnrng pained. Its beyond sad and very orsrurnrng. Pained. Its beyond sad and very disturbing. The 22 its beyond sad and very disturbing. The government 22 its beyond sad and very disturbing. The government will disturbing. The government will reeve disturbing. The government will reore no disturbing. The government will leave no stone disturbing. 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Or peopre nove families in this hour of grief. 31 people have been families in this hour of grief. 3 families in this hour of grief. 31 people have been arrested in connection with plans to disrupt the epsom derby, including one protester who ran on to the track as the race began. Actor buddhists from the Group Animal Rising had threatened to cancel the event despite a High Court Injunction banning them from doing so. The group said they wanted to protect the horses and were willing to put their bodies on the line. They also accused police of heavy handed ness and abusing their powers as a woman in her 70s has died following a dog attack in warwickshire. The dog attack in warwickshire. The incident took place on kathleen avenue in bedworth yesterday afternoon when a man and a woman have been arrested on suspicion of having a dangerously out of control dog and owning a banned breed. And manchester banned breed. And Manchester City have beaten Manchester United 2 1 to win the fa cup final at wembley. Ilkay gundogan scored after 12 seconds. Thats the fastest goal in fa cup final history. Uniteds bruno history. Uniteds Bruno Fernandes equalised scoring a penalty at 33 minutes, but gundogan scored another to restore citys lead in the second half. City is now on course to complete the treble , course to complete the treble, winning the premier League Fa Cup and Champions League in the same season, which takes place next saturday. Heres some fan reaction on two out of three, were going to do the treble. Were going to take it from rnen. Were going to take it from rnen. Oner were going to take it from them. After a were going to take it from them. After a whole history of nun them. After a whole history of hm , them. After a whole history of nun , roo them. After a whole history of nun , roo ood them. After a whole history of hurt , 100 odd years of them. After a whole history of hurt ,100 odd years of them hurt,100 odd years of them being hurt,100 odd years of them being on hurt,100 odd years of them being all over hurt, 100 odd years of them being all over us. But this this is our being all over us. But this this is year. Being all over us. But this this is our year. This being all over us. But this this is our year. This is being all over us. But this this is our year. This is our time. Rrrsr is our year. This is our time. Rrrsr gonn is our year. This is our time. Rrrsr goon rs. Is our year. This is our time. First goal, 15, 13 is our year. This is our time. First goal, 15, 13 seconds. Is our year. This is our time. First goal, 15, 13 seconds. 15 seconds. You know , ive just seconds. You know, ive just lost for words. Lost for words, a lost for words. Lost for words, u on lost for words. Lost for words, u on oereereo lost for words. Lost for words, a bit dejected and 2 lost for words, a bit dejected and living in sures a bit dejected and living in cities shattered a bit dejected and living in cities shattered last 4 or 5 yers cities shattered last 4 or 5 yes ns cities shattered last 4 or 5 years. Its obviously not what we nonn years. Its obviously not what we won, nur years. Its obviously not what we want, but probably whats opened. We want, but probably whats eopeereo. N we want, but probably whats expected. In all we want, but probably whats expected. In all in all honesty ,y. H. Expected. In all in all honesty ,yeon. A expected. In all in all honesty ,yeun. A on expected. In all in all honesty ,yeun. A on or expected. In all in all honesty , yeah. A bit of a expected. In all in all honesty , yeah. A bit of a reality check for unen , yeah. A bit of a reality check for united. Youre , yeah. A bit of a reality check for united. Youre up to date on tv for united. Youre up to date on rv onune for united. Youre up to date on tv online dab for united. Youre up to date on tv online dab radio and on tune in tv online dab radio and on tune in run tv online dab radio and on tune in run rs tv online dab radio and on tune in run is on tv online dab radio and on tune in. This is gb news. Tv online dab radio and on tune in. This is gb news. Now tv online dab radio and on tune in. s c15 \ \r2rwu in. This is gb news. Now its back to the. Back to the. Saturday five. It is saturday night and youre with the saturday five. Im emily carver, and i can 22; � im emily carver, and i can promise rnor emily carver, and i can promise run you emily carver, and i can promise run you ore emily carver, and i can promise run you rn emily carver, and i can promise that you are in for emily carver, and i can promise that you are in for a very uvery that you are in for a very uyery noun that you are in for a very lively hour. So that you are in for a very lively hour. So lets crack on unn lively hour. So lets crack on with tonights lively hour. So lets crack on with tonights first debate to non with tonights first debate to non rnrngs with tonights first debate to kick things off. With tonights first debate to kick things off. C with tonights first debate to kick things off. C c; 2 kick things off. Its emily, and shes going to tell us what she thinks about the bbcs latest decision to give teenage tiktok terror a platform. On newsnight. Its terror a platform. On newsnight. Wsfime terror a platform. On newsnight. Its time for the carver palaver. It is indeed so. The palaver. It is indeed so. The norner palaver. It is indeed so. The norner or palaver. It is indeed so. The mother of tiktok it is indeed so. The mother of tiktok prankster or the internets mother of tiktok prankster or the internets favourite iuyenie the internets favourite juvenile delinquent, has broken her juvenile delinquent, has broken ner sienee juvenile delinquent, has broken her silence. She juvenile delinquent, has broken her silence. She says shes had enougn her silence. She says shes had enougn or her silence. She says shes had enougn or us her silence. She says shes had enough of his antics and does nor enough of his antics and does nor suppon enough of his antics and does not support what enough of his antics and does not support what hes doing now. I not support what hes doing now. R eonr not support what hes doing now. I cant comment not support what hes doing now. I cant comment on her as a perenn. I cant comment on her as a porenr, nur. I cant comment on her as a parent our r. I cant comment on her as a parent, but i think. I cant comment on her as a parent, but i think we can all agree parent, but i think we can all agree unn parent, but i think we can all agree with her parent, but i think we can all agree with her claim that her neeas ro agree with her claim that her son needs to get agree with her claim that her son needs to get a job. Kyiv apparenrry son needs to get a job. Kyiv apparently, though, our tax payer apparently, though, our tax payer runaea apparently, though, our tax payer funded broadcaster payer funded state broadcaster has payer funded state broadcaster nasgrven payer funded state broadcaster hasgiven mizzi payer funded state broadcaster hasgiven mizzi a payer funded state broadcaster has given mizzi a job. Has already given mizzi a job. Aeeorarna has already given mizzi a job. Aeeorarng ro has already given mizzi a job. According to a has already given mizzi a job. According to a rather bizarre earronar according to a rather bizarre editorial decision by the bbc uensnrgnr editorial decision by the bbc Newsnight Team , the tag wearing Newsnight Team, the tag wearing ennrnar Newsnight Team, the tag wearing criminal appears Newsnight Team, the tag wearing criminal appears now to be some nne criminal appears now to be some kind or criminal appears now to be some kind or sonar criminal appears now to be some kind of social commentator or represenrarrve kind of social commentator or representative of kind of social commentator or representative of diouf, someone the representative of diouf, someone rne nne representative of diouf, someone rne one nusr representative of diouf, someone the bbc must think is worth usrenrng the bbc must think is worth usrenrng ro. The bbc must think is worth listening to. Why else would rney listening to. Why else would rney gue listening to. Why else would rney give nin listening to. Why else would they give him a listening to. Why else would they give him a platform . What they give him a platform . What a rernnry they give him a platform . What a rernnry saa they give him a platform . What a terribly sad indictment of the srare terribly sad indictment of the srare or terribly sad indictment of the srare or our terribly sad indictment of the state of our society. So lets state of our society. So lets nann state of our society. So lets naren a state of our society. So lets naren a on state of our society. So lets watch a bit of state of our society. So lets watch a bit of this surreal rnrenreu. Watch a bit of this surreal interview. Its watch a bit of this surreal interview. C 32c interview. Its got that confidence in a way, in a different way. I want to talk to you about some of the things that has said, and i that andrew tate has said, and i wonder if you think its problem tactic into with them. Tactic to get into with them. So, know, so, for example, you know, things he said, you women things he said, you know, women belong to men on a plane. Belong to men on a plane. Theres a female pilot. I noficed theres a female pilot. I noticed most women cant even drive. He said, you know, i go drive. He said, you know, i go out and i f somebody. I come home to my woman. Thats not cheating. Thats exercise. And this last one here, if i caught a woman cheating, its bang out the machete boom in her face. Grip her by the neck. That is hate speak presumably you dont go along with that kind of speak. Of course i dont go along with that. I dont look up to along with that. I dont look up ro andrew along with that. I dont look up to andrew taylor. Along with that. I dont look up to andrew taylor. I along with that. I dont look up to andrew taylor. I dont g i dont look up to andrew taylor. I dont think nes to andrew taylor. I dont think nes a to andrew taylor. I dont think nes a rote to andrew taylor. I dont think hes a role model to andrew taylor. I dont think hes a role model or anything. Ana hes a role model or anything. One r hes a role model or anything. One r eonr hes a role model or anything. And i dontto hes a role model or anything. And i dont to nobody. And i dont look up to nobody. I am and i dont look up to nobody. I an my and i dont look up to nobody. I an my on and i dont look up to nobody. I am my own person. And i dont look up to nobody. I am my own person. Everyone so as you run am my own person. Everyone so as you just saw am my own person. Everyone so as you just. Am my own person. Everyone so as you iusr. Ane am my own person. Everyone so as you just saw , the bbc am my own person. Everyone so as you just saw , the bbc is am my own person. Everyone so as you just saw , the bbc is now you just saw, the bbc is now seriously asking a bloke who gets his from trespassing gets his kicks from trespassing into peoples homes, intimidating women and targeting orthodox people for Orthodox Jewish people for clicks. He thinks about clicks. What he thinks about andrew tate, a misogynist whos under house arrest in romania. So so were supposed to care about what reprobate mizzi, whose claim to fame is whose only claim to fame is being absolute it seems, being an absolute it seems, thinks about andrew tate. I certainly dont. And judging by missys body language tone and his responses as he has absolutely no idea why the bbc cares either. Lets take a look. No, no, no. That doesnt narrer. No, no, no. That doesnt narrer ro. No, no, no. That doesnt matter to me. No, no, no. That doesnt matter to me. Im not for here andrew matter to me. Im not for here anareu rare. Matter to me. Im not for here andrew tate. Im matter to me. 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No, but youre doing. No but. No, but nur youre doing. No but. No, but no, no, but yeah, i. Well, there youre doing. No but. No, but no, go. Jt yeah, i. Well, there youre doing. No but. No, but no, go. It yeah, i. Well, there youre doing. No but. No, but no, go. It wasi, i. Well, there youre doing. No but. \2 32, it was badni2cc cr22 youre doing. No but. \2 32 it was bad enoughfi2 youre doing. No but. \2 32, it was bad enough when you go. It was bad enough when mens you go. It was bad enough when piersgave you go. It was bad enough when piersgave me 32, it was bad enough when piers gave the teenage piers morgan gave the teenage road rus piers morgan gave the teenage toad its doubly. Piers morgan gave the teenage toad its doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad its its doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad its our its doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad its our state s doubly bad piers morgan gave the teenage toad its our state broadcaster, when its our state broadcaster, nne. When its our state broadcaster, nne supposed when its our state broadcaster, nne supposed roi when its our state broadcaster, bbc. Supposed to be bbc. Newsnight is supposed to be the bbc. Newsnight is supposed to be rne rnar bbc. Newsnight is supposed to be the that makes the type of show that makes pounerans the type of show that makes politicians quiver, puts experts to politicians quiver, puts experts roasks politicians quiver, puts experts roasks me politicians quiver, puts experts to asks the biggest to task and asks the biggest quesrrons to task and asks the biggest quesrrons or to task and asks the biggest questions of the to task and asks the biggest questions of the day. Is anyone keeping questions of the day. Is anyone keeping maske questions of the day. Is anyone keeping track . In questions of the day. Is anyone keeping track . In my book . This has keeping track . In my book . This nas gor keeping track . In my book . This nas gor ro keeping track . In my book . This nas gor ro ne keeping track . In my book . This nas gor ro be a keeping track . In my book . This has got to be a new low for the nroaaeasrer. Has got to be a new low for the broadcaster. Well has got to be a new low for the broadcaster. Well there we go to my nonaenur broadcaster. Well there we go to my wonderful panel. Lets start my wonderful panel. Lets start off my wonderful panel. Lets start on ny my wonderful panel. Lets start on by asmna my wonderful panel. Lets start on by asmng , my wonderful panel. Lets start off by asking , why do you think off by asking, why do you think the off by asking, why do you think me one off by asking, why do you think me one are off by asking, why do you think the bbc did this . Off by asking, why do you think the bbc did this . Dara i think its the bbc did this . Dara i think its aoruauy the bbc did this . Dara i think its actually really dangerous that its actually given people an incentive to do what messi did because actually they think, oh, ill get on bbc newsnight. Thats canny. Mother will be very proud of me if i do that. I think ultimately the bbc are trying to appeal to a younger audience and they think by getting someone thats had success, i can use that word success, if i can use that word on tiktok , that actually theyll on tiktok, that actually theyll cater to a brand new audience when actually theyre just making themselves look like total. Making themselves look like total. If i can say whats the total. If i can say whats the value of it . I mean, you might as neu value of it . I mean, you might as near iusr value of it . I mean, you might as well just do value of it . I mean, you might as well just do a value of it . I mean, you might as well just do a show c . i mean, you might as well just do a show where you askro as well just do a show where you askro ao as well just do a show where you askro do a as well just do a show where you askto do a sudoku. Ask a pigeon to do a sudoku. I unars ask a pigeon to do a sudoku. I mean, whats the ask a pigeon to do a sudoku. I mean, whats the whats the norm mean, whats the whats the pornrreauye mean, whats the whats the point really . Mean, up mean, whats the whats the pointis really . Mean, up mean, whats the whats the pointis missys ly . Mean, up mean, whats the whats the pointis missys view mean, up mean, whats the whats the pointis missys view on an, up mean, whats the whats the pointis missys view on the up mean, whats the whats the pointis missys view on the iraq next is missys view on the iraq r next is missys view on the iraq r uno next is missys view on the iraq war. I mean, who cares . I mean, we near war. I mean, who cares . I mean, we near every war. I mean, who cares . I mean, we hear every minutes, but we hear every two minutes, but we hear every two minutes, but ne senree we need Public Service broadcasting. We need Public Service broadcasting. Is this public broadcasting. How is this Public Service broadcasting not going to wasnt as you say, to say he wasnt as you say, piers morgan did well. I piers morgan did it as well. I mean, ratings, mean, terrestrial ratings, panreurany mean, terrestrial ratings, particularly bbc , are particularly the bbc, are rraggmg particularly the bbc, are. flagging there flagging it, but arent there as men flagging it, but arent there as nearrm. Flagging it, but arent there as neulrrv. R flagging it, but arent there as wellitv. I mean, flagging it, but arent there as well itv. I mean, theres well as itv. I mean, theres iusr well as itv. I mean, theres iusr snook well as itv. I mean, theres just shock value, well as itv. I mean, theres just shock value, thats just shock value, surely thats all just shock value, surely thats arrnur just shock value, surely thats arrour uo just shock value, surely thats arrour no you just shock value, surely thats allbut do you find just shock value, surely thats allbut do you find it. All it is. But do you find it depressing, aaron, that it is our that is our state broadcaster that is doing no one cares what, doing this . No one cares what, you privately you know, privately owned companies to broadcast, Companies Choose to broadcast, but this is something we all pay into. Is it supposed to have Higher Standards . I think its Higher Standards . I think its meant Higher Standards . I think its meanr ro Higher Standards . I think its meant to have Higher Standards . I think its meant to have higher 2x2 22 i think its meant to have Higher Standards g2 22 i think its meant to have Higher Standards. Meant to have Higher Standards. Onen meant to have Higher Standards. Omen n meant to have Higher Standards. Often it falls meant to have Higher Standards. Often it falls short, but i noura often it falls short, but i nouraor often it falls short, but i wouldof back often it falls short, but i would of back up what would sort of back up what nanen would sort of back up what darren said would sort of back up what darren said a would sort of back up what darren said a moment ago and add one darren said a moment ago and add ammo, darren said a moment ago and add one more thing, which it tells me one more thing, which it tells menas one more thing, which it tells menas a one more thing, which it tells mehas a real one more thing, which it tells me has a real lack of me the bbc has a real lack of confidence me the bbc has a real lack of confidence in me the bbc has a real lack of confidence in the me the bbc has a real lack of confidence in the kinds of rnrnas confidence in the kinds of rnrngs rney confidence in the kinds of things they need to be reporting on ana things they need to be reporting on and non things they need to be reporting on and how how things they need to be reporting on and how how when dealing with the on and how how when dealing with rne rney on and how how when dealing with rne rney thinkl the younger audience, they think tick the younger audience, they think non or tick tock, young guy loads of errors tick tock, young guy loads of clicks, loads tick tock, young guy loads of clicks, loads of tick tock, young guy loads of clicks, loads of attention. We snoura clicks, loads of attention. We snoura ne clicks, loads of attention. We should be talking about it. Urem should be talking about it. Menr should be talking about it. Well,ithat should be talking about it. Well, i that shows well, no, i think that shows rearry well, no, i think that shows rearry a well, no, i think that shows really a lack well, no, i think that shows really a lack of. Well, no, i think that shows really a lack of. Yeah, strength in really a lack of. Yeah, strength is merr really a lack of. Yeah, strength in their editorial really a lack of. Yeah, strength in their editorial decisions and commence in their editorial decisions and confidencenow, in their editorial decisions and confidencenow,claire confidence. Now, baroness claire fox, if any of you fox, i dont know if any of you saw, tweeted out earlier saw, but she tweeted out earlier today or yesterday whenever this interview came out, she tweeted that he was mocking the bbc. And that he was mocking the bbc. And thats exactly how it appeared from the way he had his knee up against the table, from the way he was looking around from the way saying, why you way he was saying, why are you asking he was asking me this . Yeah, he was mocking our public broadcaster, which is an absolute shame, not only to the broadcaster , but to only to the broadcaster, but to the country. Yeah, it the country. Yeah, well, it makes the country. Yeah, well, it makes totallyi makes them look totally oarnerre. Makes them look totally pathetichis. Makes them look totally pathetic. His mother, pathetic. And even his mother, rnougn pathetic. And even his mother,| rnougn saru though, has come out and said, i iusr though, has come out and said, i iusrnrm though, has come out and said, i iusrnrmlger though, has come out and said, i iusrnrmlgerlion. Just want him to get a job. Mam. Just want him to get a job. Mom. Mayne just want him to get a job. Right. Maybe he can be a runner at right. 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But he is obviously goinbehave in a way that isgs and behave in a way that is money and behave in a way that is morally reprehensive and morally reprehensive rebel. And this morally reprehensive rebel. And ansms morally reprehensive rebel. And rnrsnrsao this is feeding his ego. I do mink this is feeding his ego. I do think genuinely this is feeding his ego. I do think genuinely that he does rearry think genuinely that he does really believe think genuinely that he does really believe that he has got rnrs really believe that he has got this Movement Really believe that he has got this movement and that he is doing this movement and that he is doing something this movement and that he is doing something rather special. Doing something rather special. And doing something rather special. Me so doing something rather special. One so u doing something rather special. One so if you doing something rather special. And so if you then doing something rather special. And so if you then get him on urwsuronn and so if you then get him on newsnight, to newsnight, which is supposed to be newsnight, which is supposed to roe mou newsnight, which is supposed to roe mow snou newsnight, which is supposed to be brow show and newsnight, which is supposed to be brow show and you be a very high brow show and you men mm be a very high brow show and you then him views be a very high brow show and you then him views on. Then start asking him views on urwsurenr then start asking him views on newsnight, newsnights ratings have plummeting for years and yeas have plummeting for years and years,validated have plummeting for years and years, validated him. Years, but you validated him. Ana years, but you validated him. Analnes years, but you validated him. Andlhes going years, but you validated him. And hes going to keep and so hes going to keep doing it. And so hes going to keep doing rn rrs and so hes going to keep doing rn rrs nasre it. He thinks if its basic renam it. He thinks if its basic reward action, it. He thinks if its basic reward action, isnt it like unen reward action, isnt it like nnen you reward action, isnt it like when you give reward action, isnt it like when you give a dog treat, when you give a dog a treat, nonre when you give a dog a treat, namedoma when you give a dog a treat, right . Doing this, right . If i keep doing this, i get i right . If i keep doing this, i oer r rnmkl right . If i keep doing this, ij get i think he right . If i keep doing this, i get | think he came get this reward. I think he came across terribly. Ive looked at the tweets below. There was hardly anyone support. It hardly anyone in support. It almost outed him as being a bit of i dont of a fool, and i dont think that did. It paints of a fool, and i dont think tiforecast did. It paints of a fool, and i dont think tiforecast of did. It paints of a fool, and i dont think tiforecast of a did. It paints of a fool, and i dont think tiforecast of a badi. It paints of a fool, and i dont think tiforecast of a bad life, aints of a fool, and i dont think tiforecast of a bad life, yes,s a forecast of a bad life, yes, but it also hes the one hes the loser out of it all. Is he but it also hes the one hes the lot0 out of it all. Is he but it also hes the one hes the lo to get of it all. Is he but it also hes the one hes the loto get outit all. Is he but it also hes the one hes the loto get out ofill. Is he but it also hes the one hes the loto get out of it. Is he but it also hes the one hes the loto get out of it long; going to get out of it long term, do you not think if the bbc had on at and bbc had had him on at and essentially made him look by essentially made him look bad by asking pertinent questions, has that silly . That made him look silly . Instead, genuinely instead, they actually genuinely asked instead, they actually genuinely askea nrm instead, they actually genuinely asked him opinion on. But asked him his opinion on. But anar asked him his opinion on. But rnar nas asked him his opinion on. But that was enough. Asked him his opinion on. But that was enough. Andrew tate and his that was enough. Andrew tate and ms onrnron that was enough. Andrew tate and ms oornronluny that was enough. Andrew tate and his opinion why young men his opinion on why young men rook his opinion on why young men took up his opinion on why young men took up ro his opinion on why young men look up to people his opinion on why young men look up to people like andrew rare. Look up to people like andrew rare. Wny look up to people like andrew tate. Why should look up to people like andrew tate. Why should we care for it . Was tate. Why should we care for it . Was giving tate. Why should we care for it . Was giving mm tate. Why should we care for it . Was giving him enough tate. Why should we care for it . Was giving him enough rope. It was to give him enough rope situation . No. But she asked. He looks foolish questions. Doesnt matter. Think doesnt matter. I dont think so uas doesnt matter. I dont think. So nas rryrng so. I think the bbc was trying to so. I think the bbc was trying rorn so. I think the bbc was trying rorn rouen so. I think the bbc was trying toin touch with so. I think the bbc was trying to in touch with young to look in touch with young peopler to look in touch with young moorsaer to look in touch with young people, get young people, trying to get young peopre people, trying to get young peopreana people, trying to get young people andlactually people watching. And i actually mink people watching. And i actually minkmem people watching. And i actually thinkthem look people watching. And i actually think them look very, think it makes them look very, very think it makes them look very, veryrouen think it makes them look very, verytouchlthink think it makes them look very, very touch think that very out of touch to think that rnrs very out of touch to think that thisrepresents very out of touch to think that this represents youth this boy represents kents youth , ra this boy represents kents youth , no say this boy represents kents youth , no say sorry. This boy represents kents youth , no say sorry. Oo this boy represents kents youth , id say sorry. C2 22 no, id say sorry. Go on. No, i iusr , id say sorry. Go on. No, i iusr gong , id say sorry. Go on. No, i was just going to , id say sorry. C2 22 no, i was just going to say, emily, do you was just going to say, emily, do you mink was just going to say, emily, do you think theres was just going to say, emily, do you think theres currency you think theres any currency or nnc you think theres any currency or nnc for you think theres any currencyi or bbc for having or credit to the bbc for having mar or credit to the bbc for having that conversation, or credit to the bbc for having that conversation, do or credit to the bbc for having thatthinkzrsation, do or credit to the bbc for having thatthink people, do or credit to the bbc for having thatthink people should do or credit to the bbc for having thatthink people should be o you think people should be asking, you think people should be asmng, uny you think people should be asmng, nny ao you think people should be asking, why do so many young peonre asking, why do so many young peopreanaren asking, why do so many young people andrew not asking people like andrew t not asking inun people like andrew t not asking munmars people like andrew t not asking mizzi, thats exactly. I mizzi, though . Thats exactly. Its hugely important question mizzi, though . Thats exactly. Its ithugely important question mizzi, though . Thats exactly. Its it was ly important question mizzi, though . Thats exactly. Its it was justiportant question mizzi, though . Thats exactly. Its it was just bizarret question mizzi, though . Thats exactly. Its it was just bizarre seeing on and it was just bizarre seeing kirsty wark ask mizzi about andrew tate you think this andrew tate and you think this is an operation and it was a feminist sat on the other side. Covid i didnt hear a peep from ner covid i didnt hear a peep from men unar covid i didnt hear a peep from men wnar sne covid i didnt hear a peep from her. What she didnt get any. Sorry, her. What she didnt get any. Sorry, rer her. What she didnt get any. Sorry, am you her. What she didnt get any. Sorry, let you finish your sentence. No, sorry, let you finish your sentence. No, no, no. Sorry, let you finish your sentence. No, no, no. But there sentence. No, no, no. But there is there are serious questions. I think for mizzi. There is mere i think for mizzi. There is mere rs i think for mizzi. There is mere is a i think for mizzi. There is there is a commentary to be had anour there is a commentary to be had about disaffected there is a commentary to be had about disaffected youth of the day ana about disaffected youth of the day and non about disaffected youth of the day and how we about disaffected youth of the day and how we handle handle mem day and how we handle handle rnem ana day and how we handle handle them and infantilize them and men them and infantilize them and men promore them and infantilize them and then promote them. 2 222 them and infantilize them and then promote them. then promote them. Yeah, well, reare then promote them. Yeah, well, reare mar then promote them. Yeah, well, leave that one there. Shocking yes, indeed. Next, though , yes, indeed. Up next, though, theres nothing more in theres nothing more certain in life death and but life than death and taxes, but should there be taxes after death . Its time for mcgees death . Its time for mcgees meltdown. Death . Its time for mcgees meltdown. Take death . Its time for mcgees meltdown. Take it away. Oh, we meltdown. Take it away. Oh, we do u meltdown. Take it away. Oh, we do u no meltdown. Take it away. Oh, we do u sorry. Meltdown. Take it away. Oh, we do it now. Sorry. I 2 take it away. Oh, we do it now. Sorry. I thought we 90mg do it now. Sorry. I thought we gorng ro do it now. Sorry. I thought we were going to break. I do aporogrse. Were going to break. I do apologise. Well, look, i think rye apologise. Well, look, i think ryens apologise. Well, look, i think ive its inheritance tax ive just. Its inheritance tax is sure. Ive just. Its inheritance tax rs ourre. Ns ive just. Its inheritance tax is quite. Its in ive just. Its inheritance tax is quite. Its in the news this week, is quite. Its in the news this week, rne is quite. Its in the news this week, the daily is quite. Its in the news this week, the Daily Telegraph have raunenea week, the Daily Telegraph have launched campaign try and launched a campaign to try and anousn launched a campaign to try and anousn n launched a campaign to try and abolish it completely. We look at abolish it completely. We look ar eaamnres abolish it completely. We look at examples in abolish it completely. We look at examples in sweden 20 years ago, at examples in sweden 20 years ago, rney at examples in sweden 20 years ago, they decided at examples in sweden 20 years ago, they decided to abolish it arrogerner. Ago, they decided to abolish it arrogerner. N ago, they decided to abolish it altogether. It had ago, they decided to abolish it altogether. It had been coming down altogether. It had been coming down incrementally year on year sne down incrementally year on year me down incrementally year on year rne sne down incrementally year on year since the since the down incrementally year on year since the since the 1980s. They got since the since the 1980s. They torevenruauy got rid of it eventually in zoos. Got rid of it eventually in 2004. Economists in 2004. Academics, economists in scandinavia 2004. Academics, economists in scandinavia believe that aeruauy scandinavia believe that actually improved productivity, proauenyrry actually improved productivity, productivity and actually improved productivity, productivity and it loosened the mne productivity and it loosened the kind or productivity and it loosened the kind or some productivity and it loosened the kind of some of productivity and it loosened the kind of some of some of the it. Wnars kind of some of some of the it. Was me kind of some of some of the it. Whats the best kind of some of some of the it. 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Im speaking situation myself. Im speaking mom situation myself. Im speaking from personal situation myself. Im speaking from personal experience. I had my farmer from personal experience. I had my father died from personal experience. I had my father died two years ago and so rye my father died two years ago and so he been my father died two years ago and so ive been hit my father died two years ago and so ive been hit with inheritance so ive been hit with inheritance tax quite badly. I iusr inheritance tax quite badly. I iusr mink inheritance tax quite badly. I just think with inheritance tax quite badly. I just think with all the taxes mar just think with all the taxes thatpava just think with all the taxes that. Pay,. Think just think with all the taxes that pay, think about that we pay, we think about rnrngs that we pay, we think about thingsincome that we pay, we think about things income tax. Weve things like income tax. Weve got things like income tax. Weve tor rake things like income tax. Wevei tor rake got the highest tax take weve nao got the highest tax take weve me me got the highest tax take weve had the highest got the highest tax take weve had the highest tax burden weve had the highest tax burden weve naa m had the highest tax burden weve me is 70 had the highest tax burden weve me is 70 yeas had the highest tax burden weve had in 70 years. Theres income tax, had in 70 years. Theres income ax, var had in 70 years. Theres income ax, var ar had in 70 years. Theres income ax, var ar 20. Had in 70 years. Theres income tax, vat at 20. Thats been thats tax, vat at 20. Thats been thats risen tax, vat at 20. Thats been thats risen over tax, vat at 20. Thats been thats risen over my lifetime. It was thats risen over my lifetime. It 150 0 thats risen over my lifetime. It was 15 back thats risen over my lifetime. It was 15 back the early it was 15 back in the early 90s. It was 15 back in the early 90s. 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I cant thinwestern worldzr countries in is a very unfair tax. I cant thinwestern world where tries in is a very unfair tax. I cant thinwestern world where you in the western world where you uterauy the western world where you literally have the western world where you literally have pay find literally have to pay or find money literally have to pay or find moneybuy literally have to pay or find moneylbuvil money to buy a house. I appreciate money to buy a house. I appreciate that. In other cultures, appreciate that. In other cultures, House Building or house cultures, House Building or house ownership quite house ownership isnt quite as prevalent ml prevalent as it is here, but it does unfair. Prevalent as it is here, but it does unfair. Then does seem very unfair. And then of course, right does seem very unfair. And then of course, right at does seem very unfair. And then of course, right at the end when youe of course, right at the end when youo mo of course, right at the end when you or our of course, right at the end when youre hit with a of course, right at the end when youre hit with a pot, youre refr youre hit with a pot, youre rorroor youre hit with a pot, youre rorroor onu youre hit with a pot, youre left pot and then left with a pot and then ouoooury left with a pot and theni ouoooury ro left with a pot and then suddenly to 40. Suddenly its hit by up to 40. Yes suddenly its hit by up to 40. You more suddenly its hit by up to 40. Yes, there are suddenly its hit by up to 40. Yes, there are boundaries at rumor yes, there are boundaries at rumorcorr yes, there are boundaries at whichcan keep yes, there are boundaries at which can keep keep some of which you can keep keep some of your which you can keep keep some of your your. Which you can keep keep some of your wealth. But which you can keep keep some of your wealth. But i which you can keep keep some of your wealth. But i also think it someo your wealth. But i also think it stifles ambition. Your wealth. But i also think it stifles ambition. Some people donr stifles ambition. Some peoplei uour ruorr dont necessarily work all their life dont necessarily work all their rue your dont necessarily work all their life wealth to i life and accumulate wealth to buy a life and accumulate wealth to buy o rou life and accumulate wealth to buy a new house. | buy bentley or a new house. Somorrmoo buy bentley or a new house. Sometimesdo buy bentley or a new house. Sometimesdo it buy bentley or a new house. Sometimes do it for the sometimes they do it for the borrormour sometimes they do it for the betterment of sometimes they do it for the betterment of their and betterment of their children and rheu betterment of their children and their whereas their grandchildren, whereas the ruoourrvo their grandchildren, whereas the incentive that. 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And i think rro taxed to the hilt. And i think rrouurorr. Taxed to the hilt. And i think itsunfair. I taxed to the hilt. And i think its unfair. I think its its deeply unfair. I think its rime its deeply unfair. I think its timeabolish its deeply unfair. I think its time abolish altogether. Time to abolish it altogether. I oooroororo time to abolish it altogether. I oooroororooro appreciate that there are orgumouro appreciate that there are arguments contrary. Appreciate that there are argumentscontrary. And arguments to the contrary. And i arso arguments to the contrary. And i oroouoru arguments to the contrary. And i oroouoru ruoy also say as well, they only ooruouy also say as well, they only actually aboutl also say as well, they only actually about 0. 5 actually account for about 0. 5 of actually account for about 0. 5 orgovorumour actually account for about 0. 5 . Ofgovernmentso of overall government income. So its of overall government income. So us nor of overall government income. So us nor oxoorry of overall government income. So its not exactly making a big ouroou its not exactly making a big splash sheeti splash on the Balance Sheet error. Splash on the Balance Sheet orrrror. Um. Splash on the Balance Sheet either. Hm. Thats a really good porno. Either. Hm. Thats a really good oorur. Wrou either. Hm. Thats a really good room. When you either. Hm. Thats a really good point. When you the. Either. Hm. Thats a really good. Point. When you the point point. When you made the point about buying bentleys and about people buying bentleys and things, incentivise things, it does incentivise people spend frivolously people to just spend frivolously early in their final years or throughout their lives rather than actually save. I think its better that money some people might that its better might think that its better that their hard that their money, their hard earned to their earned cash goes to their children or their grandchildren rather on swanky car. But rather than on a swanky car. But you get for your money if you get more for your money if you get more for your money if you true. But then i you dont. Yeah true. But then i guesslsuppose you dont. Yeah true. But then i guesslsuppose the o . C 43 . But then i guess suppose the counter guess i suppose the counter orgumouro guess i suppose the counter arguments at arguments that would be that at reaso arguments that would be that at rooor wrou arguments that would be that at least when youre arguments that would be that at least when youre spending rouoroo least when youre spending towards the least when youre spending towards the end of your life, you sorro you are creating some kind of your. You are creating some kind of wealthknow, you are creating some kind of wealth. Know, you moving wealth. You know, you are moving money wealth. You know, you are movingj money roars money around the economy thats been money around the economy thats boon onu money around the economy thats boon our ogorru money around the economy thats been and again, but. Money around the economy thats beenmoney and again, but money around the economy thats beenmoney is and again, but money around the economy thats beenmoney is taxedd again, but money around the economy thats beenmoney is taxed againn, but money around the economy thats beenmoney is taxed again and|t your money is taxed again and again your money is taxed again and again onu your money is taxed again and ogoru and again your money is taxed again and again and again throughout your life. Again and again throughout your me. You again and again throughout your uroyou know, again and again throughout your life. You know, you pay life. I mean, you know, you pay tax life. I mean, you know, you pay ray mucu tax in all pretty much oyoryrrrrrg tax in all pretty much everything know how everything you do. You know how it everything you do. You know how rrvou everything you do. You know how rrvou know, everything you do. You know how ityou know, you it all works. You know, you ourr it all works. You know, you cornwork it all works. You know, you cantwork any it all works. You know, you cant work any other way, cant really work any other way, but cant really work any other way, our ro cant really work any other way, our rr ruor cant really work any other way, but it just seems cant really work any other way, but it just seems unfair at the our. But it just seems unfair at the errorgor but it just seems unfair at the errorgoo uro but it just seems unfair at the end. Got this pot but it just seems unfair at the end. Got this pot youve end. Youve got this pot youve been been working for. You might have proury been working for. You might have merry mum plenty of children, you might rove plenty of children, you might have mightl plenty of children, you might have might have have no children, you might have orrror have no children, you might have orrrorvou have no children, you might have otheryou might have no children, you might have other you might give other priorities. You might give it other priorities. You might give rr ro other priorities. You might give rr ro your other priorities. You might give rr ro youryour other priorities. You might give it to your your relatives it to your to your relatives or borrorooo it to your to your relatives or battersea something it to your to your relatives or battersea butsomething it to your to your relatives or battersea but you something it to your to your relatives or battersea but you should;omething it to your to your relatives or battersea but you should be ething like that. But you should be ououoo like that. But you should be ououoo ro like that. But you should be allowed to do like that. But you should be allowed to do that without it being allowed to do that without it burgrho allowed to do that without it. Oorugrrorr. R being taxed at the end of it. I rho being taxed at the end of it. I mean, the stealth being taxed at the end of it. I mean, the stealth tax being taxed at the end of it. I mean, the stealth tax nature as well, though, of saying were going to keep thresholds as going to keep the thresholds as they say someone bought going to keep the thresholds as tiproperty say someone bought going to keep the thresholds as tiproperty undersomeone bought going to keep the thresholds as tiproperty under margaret bought a property under margaret thatchers the thatchers right to buy in the early 80s, property worth early 80s, property is now worth a than it was a lot more money than it was back in the day and inflation is going up and going up and up and up. And thanks part to the thanks in large part to the lockdowns all endured lockdowns that we all endured and to people, and were saying to people, youre actually a wealthy youre not actually a wealthy person, but not going to person, but were not going to let on that property. Let you pass on that property. Actually going ensure actually were going to ensure that family is going that your family is going through the heartache of losing. You to then go through. You have to then go through the administration and fear of selling the property and losing that money. Theres also from an emotional point of view, and i experienced it myself, its the awkward conversations that you have to have with loved ones. Have to have with loved ones. You know, my dad, its very orrrrouu you know, my dad, its very difficult for you know, my dad, its very difficult for my you know, my dad, its very difficult for my dad. Had difficult for my dad. He had alzheimers we| difficult for my dad. He had alzheimers we had we alzheimers. You know, we had we hadltickin9 alzheimers. You know, we had we hadlticking time alzheimers. You know, we had we had ticking time bomb to kind had a ticking time bomb to kind ofconversation had a ticking time bomb to kind ofconversation out of get the conversation out before of get the conversation out beforerou of get the conversation out before lost mind, before he lost his mind, effectively. Effectively. Sorry to have to say effectively. Sorry to have to sayway, effectively. Sorry to have to soyway, our effectively. Sorry to have to say way, but thats how say it that way, but thats how it say it that way, but thats how it auo say it that way, but thats how it out so say it that way, but thats how it was. And so many people have riot. It was. And so many people have thou r it was. And so many people havej rtor. Roroooory that. You know, i would probably like that. You know, i would probably rite someone that. You know, i would probably like someone if that. You know, i would probably like someone if i like it myself if someone if i rou like it myself if someone if i tortwore like it myself if someone if i feltwere trying like it myself if someone if i felt were trying to felt my kids were trying to attack felt my kids were trying to attack probably attack my wealth, id probably be attack my wealth, id probably too recoil be like, absolutely. Id recoil a be like, absolutely. Id recoil oouu be like, absolutely. Id recoil oouo ru be like, absolutely. Id recoil oouo to you be like, absolutely. Id recoil a and id you know, a little bit and id you know, it a little bit and id you know, rrorooroo a little bit and id you know, itcreates tension it just creates tension in torturou it just creates tension in families as it just creates tension in families asso it just creates tension in families as so much. It just creates tension in families asso much. So families as well. So much. So much. 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And instance, only 7 of the country pays this tax. And you said about pays this tax. And you said aboutstuff pays this tax. And you said. Aboutstuffend pays this tax. And you said aboutstuffend of about buying stuff at the end of your about buying stuff at the end of your uro about buying stuff at the end of your me. You about buying stuff at the end of your life. You obviously pay vat on your life. You obviously pay vat ou so your life. You obviously pay vat ou so youro your life. You obviously pay vat on so youre looking your life. You obviously pay vat on20 so youre looking your life. You obviously pay vat on20 there so youre looking your life. You obviously pay vat on20 there as youre looking your life. You obviously pay vat on 20 there as well. Re looking your life. You obviously pay vat on 20 there as well. So ooking your life. You obviously pay vat on20 there as well. So ioking your life. You obviously pay vat on20 there as well. So i think at 20 there as well. 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Inheritance. This is part of the problem which most problem as well, which is most people not people of course, its not raising sorry, raising the most money. Sorry, sorry but i was sorry to interrupt, but i was just that the problem is just saying that the problem is that boundaries little that the boundaries are a little bit little bit out bit thresholds, a little bit out of well. So the 325 per of date as well. So the 325 per parent threshold was put in in when that . So since when was that . 2009. So since then weve had property prices incrementally rising throughout the country. Lots of people who wouldnt be considered for that for have been lifted for that tax have been lifted into it. Sorry. Quickly, somebody into it. Sorry. Quickly, somebody like c sorry. Quickly, somebody like Nadhim Zahawi into it. Sorry. Quickly, somebody like Nadhim Zahawi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe dy like Nadhim Zahawi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe shouldNadhim Zahawi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe should scrapm zahawi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe should scrap it zahawi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe should scrap it ,ahawi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe should scrap it , he iwi who into it. Sorry. Quickly, somiwe should scrap it, he hast ho said we should scrap it, he has a said we should scrap it, he has ooorrrouo said we should scrap it, he has ooorrrouo or said we should scrap it, he has aportfolio of £100. A Property Portfolio of £100 mirror. A Property Portfolio of £100. Million. Stands a Property Portfolio of £100 million. Stands to million. He personally stands to our million. He personally stands to gain uro million. He personally stands to gain £40 million million. He personally stands to gain £40 million from that rooooyoro. Gain £40 million from that taxpayers. But gain £40 million from that taxpayers. R r r gain £40 million from that taxpayers. R rt r gain £40 million from that taxpayers. R rt taxpayers. But do you think thats why hes doing it . Well, no, not to. I mean, no, im not going to. I mean, its no, im not going to. I mean, to o no, im not going to. I mean, its alike no, im not going to. I mean, its a. Likelbrewer no, im not going to. I mean, its a like brewer saying its a bit like a brewer saying suggesting its a bit like a brewer saying suggestingtorr its a bit like a brewer saying suggesting bit like suggesting its a bit like a brewer suggesting its a bit like a brewer saying suggesting its a bit like a brewer saying lets scrap beer, tux. Brewer saying lets scrap beer, tor trout brewer saying lets scrap beer,l tor know, so tax. Right. I mean, you know, so i i tax. Right. I mean, you know, so rr turk tax. Right. I mean, you know, so ii think somebody i think i think somebody with thor i think i think somebody with riot usuri i think i think somebody with. 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Because i its more of a moral thing. Okay . Because i really its more of a moral thing. Okay . Because i really do want to their to see people who work all their lives and pay into a system all of their lives and decide that they want leave something to they want to leave something to they want to leave something to the future generation which a lot of people do. And i think that on people who are that gets lost on people who are now bit younger, who now who are a bit younger, who are screaming, are kicking and screaming, saying more tax. Saying we need to pay more tax. I forget that a lot i think they forget that a lot of elderly people actually one of elderly people actually one of if not their top priority is to the generation to know that the generation coming after them is actually safe and secure. And this is something that i think is actually inherently wrong in our society at the minute. But if you happen to have someone you do happen to have someone whos often a self made individual , whos often a self made individual, know, a individual, you know, theres a lot generation irish lot of first generation irish immigrants , for example, immigrants, for example, who worked building trade, worked in the building trade, did everything right, worked their ended up their way up. They ended up owning that now, owning a property that is now, under standards, worth under todays standards, worth £1 million something, which £1 million or something, which actually, i can say youve actually, if i can say youve got experience this, got Family Experience of this, havent family havent you . Ive got Family Experience someone experience of it where someone who was, know, absolutely who was, you know, absolutely worked. The kind of worked. I mean, the kind of thing has an impact on your thing that has an impact on your physical health, which unfortunately physical health, which unprematurely right and to prematurely death. Right and then getting then you end up getting absolutely and you absolutely clobbered and you think, well, is that really is that really fair . I would think, well, is that really is that questionr . I would think, well, is that really is that questionr . I todayi think, well, is that really is that questionr . I today , also question as well today, theyi also question as well today, they i dont think our tax is being well spent. If you look around, you look around at being well spent. If you look arolpublicyou look around at being well spent. If you look arolPublic Services around at being well spent. If you look arolPublic Services andind at being well spent. If you look arolPublic Services and where we our Public Services and where we are the at the are spending the money at the moment how were spending moment and how were spending it and manner well and the manner in which well get way is i just dont get onto one way is i just dont think could tolerate it. If think i could tolerate it. If everything was working well, everything was running smoothly. Can throw it out can i ask can i throw it out thoro can i ask can i throw it out there, though . Can i ask can i throw it out there, though . I can i ask can i throw it out there, though . I mean, one of rho there, though . I mean, one of the criticisms there, though . 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Are you stifling creativity, are their accounts. Are you stifling creativity, are you their accounts. Are you stifling creativity, are you stifling ambitiou creativity, are you stifling ambition will creativity, are you stifling ambition will necessarily spend it terror. Ambition will necessarily spend it better. Thats ambition will necessarily spend it better. Thats thats my that your it better. Thats thats my that your to it better. Thats thats my that your to my it better. Thats thats my that would be my you it better. 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And i was and i actually think if i was well off or successful, id well off or uber successful, id probably the kids probably quite harsh the kids to be isnt that be like, look, life isnt that easy. Things dont come to you that do that that easily. So i do see that they talk about the threshold, tend everything. Tend to spend everything. Presumably you wouldnt oresumoory presumably we respect you wourour wouldnt rather leave it to jeremy wouldnt rather leave it to jeremywellr wouldnt rather leave it to jeremywell,gerry jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry rroyrrirorr jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry rroyurrrou. Jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry rroyrrrsou. Au jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry moynihan. All right. Jeremy hunt well, jeremy gerry moynihan. All right. Still to moynihan. All right. Still to come tonight, moynihan. All right. Still to come tonight, darren is going to estrous come tonight, darren is going to ooprorr wry come tonight, darren is going to ooprorr why to come tonight, darren is going to explain why he thinks the virtue stororuug explain why he thinks the virtue stororrrno proo explain why he thinks the virtue signalling pride month. I cant benevo signalling pride month. I cant believewhole signalling pride month. I cant believe whole month is a believe its a whole month is a party believe its a whole month is a partymany believe its a whole month is al pafivmanvpeople party to which many gay people srmory party to which many gay people simplyinvited. Party to which many gay people simply invited. Aaron is simply arent invited. Aaron is going simply arent invited. Aaron is going ro simply arent invited. Aaron is going to rou simply arent invited. Aaron is going to tell us simply arent invited. Aaron is going to tell us why all under 45 going to tell us why all under no you going to tell us why all under rs your outs going to tell us why all under 45 year olds are going to tell us why all under 45 year olds are being let down by no 45 year olds are being let down by the importance 45 year olds are being let down by the importance we place on unrvorsrrros by the importance we place on universities or by the importance we place on universities or Something Like nor. Universities or Something Like non going universities or Something Like run going ro| that. And patrick is going to rou that. And patrick is going to on us that. And patrick is going to on us uny that. And patrick is going to tell us why Asylum Seekers who rousor tell us why Asylum Seekers who refuse should l refuse accommodation should srnory refuse accommodation should simplydeported. Refuse accommodation should simply deported. Youre with simply be deported. Youre with the simply be deported. Youre with no sorurooy simply be deported. Youre with the saturday five simply be deported. Youre with the saturday five live on recycling bin. Youre listening to on recycling bin. Youre listening to on yours recycling bin. Youre listening to gb news radio recycling bin. Youre listening to gb news radio. Recycling bin. Youre listening to gb news radio. Tragic g � youre listening to gb news radio. T tragic g � youre listening to gb news radio. T t to gb news radio. Welcome back to gb news radio. Welcome back to the saturday five. Thank you very much indeed. Youve been sending in your emails already. Ruby says evening fab five by giving tiktok a prankster nuisance. Mizzy a platform the bbc is encouraging other to do the same. Yes, i think that is a very good point indeed. Richard says inheritance tax is a grave robbers tax on the working classes, not the wealthy, as they have complex, proper ways to there is that trust to avoid it. There is that trust. Cetera. Thorani. Et cetera. Et cetera. Thorani says. Et cetera. Et cetera. Thorani says. You gentlemen look dashing says. You gentlemen look dashing and the ladies as always, looking stunning. Shine on now its time. How lovely. Everyone its time. How lovely. Everyone is looking very nice this evening. We made an effort tonight. But now its time for our next debate. Darren is going to tell us why he thinks virtue signalling pride month is a party which many gay people party to which many gay people are invited. Its are simply not invited. Its gnnd are simply not invited. Its grind ill probably be grind time. Ill probably be oonoorroo grind time. Ill probably be cancelled this grind time. Ill probably be. 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I a plus no, dear ouronooo lgbt. I a plus no, dear audience, you lgbt. I a plus no, dear audience, you dont need to ootusr audience, you dont need to dust your audience, you dont need to adjust your Television Set or your adjust your Television Set or your radio. Adjust your Television Set or your ratio. R adjust your Television Set or your radio. I am adjust your Television Set or your radio. I am not suffering a nonfunction your radio. I am not suffering a malfunction. It your radio. I am not suffering a malfunction. It sounds more like a secure, sodden malfunction. It sounds more like a secure, sodden passport than a group a secure, sodden passport than a group or a secure, sodden passport than a grow of people a secure, sodden passport than a group or poopro. R a secure, sodden passport than a group of people. I had a good rougn group of people. I had a good rouon roooy group of people. I had a good rouon today or group of people. 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So i rou estate in county durham. So i on you estate in county durham. So i on you rnrs estate in county durham. So i tell you this for estate in county durham. So i tell you this for free, i wont be tell you this for free, i wont no rooruroo tell you this for free, i wont be lectured by tell you this for free, i wont be lectured by some blue haired they be lectured by some blue haired rnoy rnon be lectured by some blue haired they then attention seeking rnorn they then attention seeking rnorn on they then attention seeking rnoro on nor they then attention seeking twerp on not being a real gay. Twerp on not being a real gay. Roo twerp on not being a real gay. To gor twerp on not being a real gay. To got no twerp on not being a real gay. Ive got no pride twerp on not being a real gay. Ive got no pride in a flag and a movement that ive got no pride in a flag and a movement that stands for sexualization a movement that stands for sexualization with drag queens , sexualization with drag queens, unn sexualization with drag queens, nrrn oounro sexualization with drag queens, with double entendre names porrornrng with double entendre names performing for with double entendre names performing for children. Ive got performing for children. Ive got no performing for children. Ive got no onto performing for children. Ive got no pride in performing for children. Ive got no pride in the indoctrination of kids with new gonoors indoctrination of kids with new gonoors onu indoctrination of kids with new genders and sexualities. And genders and sexualities. And most genders and sexualities. And most horrifically, i have onsoruro most horrifically, i have absolute no most horrifically, i have absolute no pride in the mutilation absolute no pride in the mutilation of absolute no pride in the mutilation of minors in the name of mutilation of minors in the name or gonoor mutilation of minors in the name of gender affirmation. So maybe i of gender affirmation. So maybe r nonr of gender affirmation. So maybe r nonr norong of gender affirmation. So maybe i dont belong to of gender affirmation. So maybe i dont belong to this ugly oyosoro i dont belong to this ugly oosoyro or i dont belong to this ugly oosoyro of o i dont belong to this ugly eyesore of a flag and the movement behind it. I like trons. Movement behind it. I like blokes. Thats movement behind it. I like blokes. Thats about it doesnt oonno blokes. Thats about it doesnt oorrno no blokes. Thats about it doesnt define me. And blokes. Thats about it doesnt define me. And we ought not let it define me. And we ought not let u oonno define me. And we ought not let it define britain define me. And we ought not let it define britain through its rooorogy it define britain through its ideology either it define britain through its ideology either. Wow. Will ideology either. Wow. Well, tell us unor ideology either. Wow. Well, tell us what you really think , us what you really think, darren. Wow. Foreign come on. You darren. Wow. Foreign come on. You must darren. Wow. Foreign come on. You must disagree i wow. Foreign come on. You must disagree with all of nor. You must disagree with all of nor. Aro you must disagree with all of nor. Aro you you must disagree with all of that. Are you an you must disagree with all of that. Are you an ally . Will you be that. Are you an ally . Will you to our that. Are you an ally . Will you to our of that. Are you an ally . Will you be out of pride that. Are you an ally . Will you be out of pride parade . Will you be out of pride parade . Will you no wooing be out of pride parade . Will you no wooing ino be out of pride parade . Will you be waving the progress pride trog be waving the progress pride riog saying be waving the progress pride riog soying , be waving the progress pride flag saying , come on, be waving the progress pride flag saying, come on, come on, all flag saying, come on, come on, oii oniiiron flag saying, come on, come on, all children, chop flag saying, come on, come on, all children, chop bits all children, chop your bits on. All children, chop your bits on. Rosi all children, chop your bits on. Rosi or all children, chop your bits off. Rest of it . All children, chop your bits. Off. Rest of it . Well, off. All the rest of it . Well, youo off. All the rest of it . Well, youyo iono off. All the rest of it . Well, youve done that. Youve youve done that. What youve done effective. Done then, its very effective. Rhetorical is youve rhetorical tactic is youve bunch of stuff in there. So bunch lots of stuff in there. So i think thats what the flag does. Well thats true. I think thats what the flag doezdarrensvell thats true. I think thats what the flag doezdarrens sayingits true. I think thats what the flag doezdarrens saying hesue. I think thats what the flag doezdarrens saying hes better but darrens saying hes better than that. Think i think than that. So i think i think pride a net good. Think pride is a net good. I think its weve weve its very good that weve weve de stigmatized covid bisexuality and homosexuality in this country over the last 20, 25 years. You know, youre, youre a than me, but a bit younger than me, but i remember really beginning remember it really beginning to happen late 1990s, know mark happen late 1990s, you know mark on , the first kiss et on eastenders, the first kiss et cetera weve come so far since then. So i think its a net good. Its good that people. I think its good that people feel they can celebrate they feel they can celebrate who they are corporate stuff. Are on the corporate stuff. Youre its youre entirely right. Its clearly absurd and i think were at a moment now where the lgbt movement, theres clearly be a wider discussion about, you know, how people want to be represented. And of course, it is a very Broad Movement and people are going to have lots of differences. Its a very heterogeneous movement. And i think experience in think the experience you had in that for instance, i mean, that bar, for instance, i mean, im to that sounds im sorry to hear that it sounds like want quite like some people want quite a homogenous and homogenous movement. And clearly, youre clearly, when youre talking about about about you are talking about millions this millions of people in this country talking country right. Youre talking about, six, six, about, what, six, six, six, lets million people. Lets say 6 million people. Youre have people of youre going to have people of all kinds of colours creeds all kinds of colours and creeds and beliefs. So i think all kinds of colours and creeds and btensions so i think all kinds of colours and creeds and btensions kind i think all kinds of colours and creeds and btensions kind of hink all kinds of colours and creeds and btensions kind of given the those tensions kind of given the lgbt movement and its normalisation, thats kind of inevitable, isnt it . Its like begum, isnt it . Black and oinnio begum, isnt it . Black and ethnic minority begum, isnt it . Black and ethnic minority or g c c . black and ethnic minority or minority . Unno ethnic minority or minority . Irnnio tusi ethnic minority or minority . Ethnic, just groups. Everyone iogoinoro ethnic, just groups. Everyone together . Yeah ethnic, just groups. Everyone together . Yeah as long as youre not wniio. Together . Yeah as long as youre not wniio. Ani together . Yeah as long as youre not white. And this together . Yeah as long as youre not white. And this just groups. Ivoryono not white. And this just groups. Everyone whos not white. And this just groups. Everyone whos not straight all. Everyone whos not straight oii rogornor. Everyone whos not straight oii rogornor . Everyone whos not straight all together , that would annoy all together, that would annoy me all together, that would annoy noli all together, that would annoy noli noi all together, that would annoy me i had different. All together, that would annoy me i had different. Well, me if i had a different. Well, its me if i had a different. Well, is o me if i had a different. Well, its amino me if i had a different. Well, its a like preference. Im its a bit like preference. Im nor. Its a bit like preference. Im non noi not. You know, im not nooossoriiy not. You know, im not necessarily same as not. You know, im not necessarilysame as someone necessarily the same as someone tusi necessarily the same as someone tusi iooouso necessarily the same as someone tusr nooouso or necessarily the same as someone just because of preference just because of their preference. Its just because of their preference. Irs iiio just because of their preference. Its like saying just because of their preference. Its like saying that just because of their preference. Its like saying that through the movement, every the feminist movement, every single exactly the single woman has exactly the same you know, who are the same view. You know, who are the majority in. Thats majority of people in. Thats why been a majority of people in. Thats whybeen a teami why ive never been a team toninisi why ive never been a team toninisii why ive never been a team feministi feel why ive never been a team feminist i feel like why ive never been a team feministi feel like you feminist because i feel like you nowo inon feminist because i feel like you have then too. Feminist because i feel like you have then too. So i have to sign up then too. So many have to sign up then too. So yon have to sign up then too. So manyon other have to sign up then too. So many on other things, many beliefs on other things, noiiiios many beliefs on other things, ooiirios. On many beliefs on other things, politics. On how many beliefs on other things, politics. On how view politics. On how you view sooioiy politics. On how you view society absolutely everything society on absolutely everything iis society on absolutely everything irs tusi society on absolutely everything irs tusi your , when really its just your soxuoiiiy , when really its just your. Soxuoiiiy you sexuality or the fact that you inink io sexuality or the fact that you think be you think women should be equal. You know think women should be equal. You knownig think women should be equal. You know,big question know, its not a big question noro. Know, its not a big question noro. Wry know, its not a big question noro. Wny rio know, its not a big question here. Rwy r rt r t � rt;rt;t here. Why do corporations feel as though have get these as though they have to get these flags up there . Why people flags up there . Why did people feel they had to take feel as though they had to take the knee . Its because we currently live in a culture where if dont ridiculously where if you dont ridiculously virtue signal assumption is virtue signal the assumption is either that you are a frothing, racist, homophobe or that you can be accused being one. Can be accused of being one. Okay . This is absolutely okay . And this is absolutely staggering. Fake virtue staggering. So this fake virtue signalling going to signalling like going to sainsburys a gay sainsburys and buy a big gay bunch bananas, its bunch of bananas, its got a rainbow isnt it . Just rainbow flag, isnt it . Just its just its its just cheap. Its just its nonsense. Its cheap. Like if inor nonsense. Its cheap. Like if not wini nonsense. Its cheap. Like if that kind of its cheap. Like if that kind of Corporate Social Responsibility that kind of Corporate Social Responsibility would cost the Company Responsibility would cost the Company Millions of dollars , i Company Millions of dollars, i wouii Company Millions of dollars, i wouii io Company Millions of dollars, i wouii no in Company Millions of dollars, i would do it. They Company Millions of dollars, i would do it. They wouldnt do it. Would do it. They wouldnt do in its would do it. They wouldnt do in iistusi would do it. They wouldnt do it. Its tusr ventr would do it. They wouldnt do it. Its just very, very cheap. So it. Its just very, very cheap. So must it. Its just very, very cheap. So much money it. Its just very, very cheap. So much money on it. Its just very, very cheap. So much money on it, it. Its just very, very cheap. So much money on it, on, on, on Diversity Inclusion managers who that but they that kind of separate but they work this kind of stuff or work on this kind of stuff or you have a blm workshop shop at work. One of my former work. My one of my former employers whole employers spent a whole week doing of different doing all of these different workshops. That workshops. Whats bad about that . Weve gone from lgbt stuff iooouso . Weve gone from lgbt stuff iooouso iis . Weve gone from lgbt stuff because its blm 7 weve gone from lgbt stuff because its blm stuff. Because its because its blm stuff. Because irsoioui because its blm stuff. Because itsaboutofficerl its bad about inclusion officer nooouso because its costly to businesses. Because its costly to businesses. Ii because its costly to businesses. Because its costly to businesses. Ii think businesses businesses. I think businesses first and foremost. Well, i dont of things dont agree with a lot of things that would have had in that they would have had in these workshops, im sure. But these workshops, im sure. But the is, that its not the problem is, is that its not good the businesses either. Good for the businesses either. I actually is. It i dont know. It actually is. It is in i dont know. It actually is. It is in o i dont know. It actually is. It is in o way i dont know. It actually is. It is in a way because r rt r c it actually is. It is in a way because actually is in a way because it actually an is in a way because it actually ononioors is in a way because it actually anofficerspartj an inclusion officers job. Part of an inclusion officers job. Part or io an inclusion officers job. 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I mean, they the cliff,| they have gone off the cliff, igno they have gone off the cliff, ngn, witn they have gone off the cliff, right, with their they have gone off the cliff, right, with their so involved in wnokoori right, with their so involved in whakaari and right, with their so involved in whakaari and walkeri. � fiirt; whakaari and walkeri. Yeah. We roiu whakaari and walkeri. Yeah. We were told overnight we had to wear badges for all sorts of different stuff and some. You had to. Yeah, we had to. Yeah. Well we yeah, we were told it wasnt. Honestly think wasnt. Honestly i think football wasnt Football Players it wasnt mandated. I gonna say mandated. I was gonna say i ioni mandated. I was gonna say i ioni inink mandated. I was gonna say i dont think its mandated. I was gonna say i dont think its legal 3 i was gonna say i dont think its legal right. No dont think its legal right. Uo ir dont think its legal right. Uo ir wa dont think its legal right. Uo ir wo dont think its legal right. J no it was we put no its not but it was we put people were pressure on. People were put pressure on. I was, i was. If you dont youre oxaoriy was, i was. If you dont youre oxaoiiy wnai was, i was. If you dont youre exactly what said. Exactly what patrick said. Vouro exactly what patrick said. Roam exactly what patrick said. J yourea bigot. Exactly what patrick said. Yourea bigot. Very youre a racist or a bigot. Very iirriouii. Youre a racist or a bigot. Very difficult. Very youre a racist or a bigot. Very difficult. R rt difficult. Very difficult to object badge. Object to putting on a badge. People the poppy, people say about the poppy, inougn niay people say about the poppy,. Though, play devils though, dont they play devils aawooaioo though, dont they play devils advocate . Say, though, dont they play devils advocate . Say, you know, advocate . They say, you know, rnoros advocate . They say, you know, theres pressure advocate . They say, you know,. Theres pressure lwear theres so much pressure to wear a inoy theres so much pressure to wear a inoy to. L a poppy. Its almost they do. Nur a poppy. Its almost they do. Nutknow a poppy. Its almost they do. Butknow what, a poppy. Its almost they do. Butknow what, though . � a poppy. Its almost they do. J butknow what, though . I but you know what, though . I think going be 1 1 day think its going to be 1 1 day soon. Pride is going soon. That pride flag is going to like sodden patchwork to look like a sodden patchwork quilt. Ido. To look like a sodden patchwork quilt. I do. Think to look like a sodden patchwork quilt. Ido. Think theres quilt. I do. I think theres sonoining quilt. I do. I think theres. Somethingaaron quilt. I do. I think theres somethingaaron said, something in in what aaron said, wnion something in in what aaron said, wnionlinai something in in what aaron said, wnionlinai i something in in what aaron said, whichthat i mean, something in in what aaron said, which that i mean, i have which is that i mean, i have. Soon ioiai seen absolutely only the total normalisation seen absolutely only the total normalisation of seen absolutely only the total normalisation of a vast smorgasbord normalisation of a vast smorgasbord of different sexualities, smorgasbord of different sexualities, which is as it snouii sexualities, which is as it snouii no sexualities, which is as it should be, people shouldnt you snouii should be, people shouldnt you snouii noi should be, people shouldnt you should not have should be, people shouldnt you should not have to, you know, go rnrougn should not have to, you know, go rnrougnkini should not have to, you know, go through kind bullying through the kind of bullying you wont king through the kind of bullying you wont king ofl went through at school, kind of buying. Went through at school, kind of bullyingschool bullying. I saw at school as worr bullying. I saw at school as well. Times. Bullying. I saw at school as well. Times. I bullying. I saw at school as well. Times. I would bullying. I saw at school as well. Times. I would hope well. At times. And i would hope inat well. At times. And i would hope inaiaiways well. At times. And i would hope thatalways going well. At times. And i would hope that always going to be that theres always going to be iaiois that theres always going to be idiotstheres that theres always going to be idiots theres always idiots out there. Theres always going our idiots out there. Theres always going our inoro. | going to be bullies out there. Our going to be bullies out there. Ournono going to be bullies out there. Buthope that going to be bullies out there. But hope that that has but i would hope that that has noon but i would hope that that has been squeezed but i would hope that that has been squeezed into very small been squeezed into a very small minority. Minority. But one thing i would saylinai minority. But one thing i would saylinai soo minority. But one thing i would saythat some of minority. But one thing i would say that some of these kind say is that some of these kind of say is that some of these kind or ionior say is that some of these kind of lgbtq pressure groups, as it woro rno were, i think when with the aavoni were, i think when with the aiwoni or were, i think when with the advent of marriage and the advent of gay marriage and the normalisation advent of gay marriage and the normalisation maybe normalisation in society, maybe got normalisation in society, maybe goi a normalisation in society, maybe goi a roi normalisation in society, maybe goi a ioi or normalisation in society, maybe got a lot of what normalisation in society, maybe got a lot of what they were asking got a lot of what they were asking for got a lot of what they were asking for and got a lot of what they were asking for and wanted and now im asking for and wanted and now in |wouii asking for and wanted and now im would personally im i would be personally concerned that im i would be personally concerned that they want to go inat concerned that they want to go inaision concerned that they want to go thatstep further. Concerned that they want to go that step further. And that one step further. And inais that one step further. And inaiswo that one step further. And thatswe start that one step further. And thats we start seeing thats where we start seeing rnings things in early years education. But things in early years education. Our nooasl things in early years education. Our noois ioi but i just dont think needs to be but i just dont think needs to io. But i just dont think needs to io. Voan but i just dont think needs to io. Voan. Andl be there exactly. Yeah. And thats an interesting point actually. Someone actually. As someone on the left, grift as left, do you see the grift as what would brand it as from what i would brand it as from the likes stonewall all who, the likes of stonewall all who, you know, a bit like saint george retirement theyve george in retirement theyve killed dragon in securing killed the dragon in securing equality for everyone and now of course theyre just trying to find make money find other ways to make money and relevant to the and that now relevant to the trans. I try and look at trans debate. I try and look at the trans debate. I try and look at no ioni trans debate. I try and look at the lgbt stuff trans debate. I try and look at the lgbt stuff as trans debate. I try and look at the lgbt stuff as and i try and look at the lgbt stuff as and obviously im the lgbt stuff as and obviously in a the lgbt stuff as and obviously in a siraigni the lgbt stuff as and obviously im a straight heterosexual man, so rnars im a straight heterosexual man, so rnars ano im a straight heterosexual man, so thats the caveat im a straight heterosexual man, so thats the caveat. But i try so thats the caveat. But i try ana so thats the caveat. But i try and rook so thats the caveat. But i try and took ai so thats the caveat. But i try and look at these so thats the caveat. But i try and look at these things as owi and look at these things as Civil Liberties and look at these things as Civil Liberties issue. Fundamentally and i think thats the fundamentally and i think thats no prism fundamentally and i think thats the prism through fundamentally and i think thats the prism through which i try fundamentally and i think thats the looki through which i try fundamentally and i think thats the look atirough which i try fundamentally and i think thats the look at stuffi which i try fundamentally and i think thats the look at stuff through try fundamentally and i think thats the look at stuff through and and look at stuff through and i inink and look at stuff through and i inink ono and look at stuff through and i think once you and look at stuff through and i think once you talk about civil iiionios think once you talk about civil iiionios for think once you talk about Civil Liberties for children, it sians liberties for children, it siaris ro liberties for children, it starts to get liberties for children, it starts to get quite ambiguous. Inat starts to get quite ambiguous. Inai said starts to get quite ambiguous. Inai an, i starts to get quite ambiguous. That said, i personally feel anar that said, i personally feel na if that said, i personally feel na if a that said, i personally feel that if a young that said, i personally feel that if a young child wants rnoir that if a young child wants their gender that if a young child wants their gender affirmed rhetorically, they want paniouiar rhetorically, they want particular dont particular pronouns. I dont roaiiy really see what that costs sonoioiy really see what that costs somebody else. Yeah, and id ooo somebody else. Yeah, and id wonder, would somebody else. Yeah, and id wonder, would you say, no, were going wonder, would you say, no, were going io wonder, would you say, no, were going to sari wonder, would you say, no, were going to call you . Wonder, would you say, no, were going to call you . Some people, they think it costs reality. Yeah thats true. Can i yeah well, thats true. Can i just , how do you yeah well, thats true. Can i just, how do you feel. Yeah well, thats true. Can i just, how do you feel about just ask, how do you feel about pride . Just ask, how do you feel about nriiooan just ask, how do you feel about nriiooan as just ask, how do you feel about pride . An as an just ask, how do you feel about pride . An as an event . Just ask, how do you feel about pri in . An as an event . Just ask, how do you feel about pri in major an as an event . Just ask, how do you feel about pri in major cities as an event . Just ask, how do you feel about pri in major cities around event . Just ask, how do you feel about pri in major cities around europe as in major cities around europe ani as in major cities around europe gag wonde as in major cities around europe ant wono . I as in major cities around europe and world . I dont. And around the world . I dont remember them and around the world . I dont remember them being quite as onoiiwo remember them being quite as emotive contentious as remember them being quite as emotinup contentious as remember them being quite as emotinup aboutitious as remember them being quite as emotinup aboutitiouyears maybe up until about five years ago. Maybe up until about five years ago. No maybe up until about five years ago. Do you maybe up until about five years ago. Do you think maybe up until about five years ago. Do you think it needs some morning ago. Do you think it needs some reforming, maybe ago. Do you think it needs some reforming, maybe scaling reforming, maybe like scaling task back somehow, or the messages onangoio iaro changed . Or is it too late altogether . Changed . Or is it too late altogether . C altogether . I think its a narcissistic parade of people who show off their who just want to show off their beats the police, get out the beats on the police, get out the baton. Yeah. Anyway, right, noauso baton. Yeah. Anyway, right, becauseleave � yeah. Anyway, right, because leave there. Because to leave it there. Nignr. Because to leave it there. Night. So because to leave it there. Right. So still because to leave it there. Right. So still ahead, because to leave it there. Right. So still ahead, aarons going to tell us why all under 45 year olds are being let down by importance that were by the importance that were placed universities. And placed on universities. And patrick is going to tell us why Asylum Seekers who refuse accommodation should just be deported. Youre with us saturday, five live on on gb news. The peoples channel britain is watching. Welcome britain is watching. Welcome back to the saturday � t g welcome back to the saturday five. You back to the saturday five. Youve been back to the saturday five. Youve been sending us more messages, so im youve been sending us more messages, so im going to read out a messages, so im going to read out a oounio messages, so im going to read out a couple. Jade messages, so im going to read out a couple. Jade says, darren, inat out a couple. Jade says, darren, inai was out a couple. Jade says, darren, rnar sinoiy out a couple. Jade says, darren, that was simply amazing. Lol war. That was simply amazing. Lol war. Whar that was simply amazing. Lol well, what can that was simply amazing. Lol well, what can i that was simply amazing. Lol well, what can i say . That was simply amazing. Lol well, what can i say . Jade thank you. Peter says you put the pride nonsense perfectly , pride nonsense perfectly, especially regarding our little ones who are our future. Well, there you go. Lots of. Well, there you go. Lots of praise for there you go. Lots of praise for daron there you go. Lots of praise for narron nary there you go. Lots of praise for darren. Mary says there you go. Lots of praise for darren. Mary says best programme on iv darren. Mary says best programme on iv giwos darren. Mary says best programme on iv givos no darren. Mary says best programme on tv gives me hope in the ruiuro on tv gives me hope in the ruiuroiois on tv gives me hope in the futurelots of on tv gives me hope in the future lots of thought future with lots of thought provoking future with lots of thought provoking lovely. Thank future with lots of thought provvery; lovely. Thank future with lots of thought provvery much lovely. Thank future with lots of thought provvery much forovely. Thank future with lots of thought provvery much for sending ank future with lots of thought provvery much for sending those you very much for sending those in. Rioaso you very much for sending those in. Rioaso io you very much for sending those in. Please do keep you very much for sending those in. Please do keep them coming. We in. Please do keep them coming. Uro nur in. Please do keep them coming. Wo iui now in. Please do keep them coming. We but now its. We like the praise, but now its iino we like the praise, but now its iinolour we like the praise, but now its time. Ourdebate. We like the praise, but now its time our debate. Time for our next debate. Up noon time for our next debate. Up next. Is time for our next debate. Up next, its time time for our next debate. Up next, its time for time for our next debate. Up next, its time for some socialist sugar. Aaron is called to tell us why a generation of millennial marxists have been let down by the import. Once we let down by the import. Once we place on universities and how we fund them. Its time for bostons broadside. Take it bostons broadside. Take it away. Aaron, im loving these intros away. Aaron, im loving these inrros away. Aaron, im loving these inrros so away. Aaron, im loving these inrros so i away. Aaron, im loving these intros , so i want away. Aaron, im loving these intros , so i want to aaron, im loving these intros , so i want to make intros, so i want to make a broad intros, so i want to make a broad aoooai intros, so i want to make a broad appeal here to many people away broad appeal here to many people aoiuaiiy on broad appeal here to many people aoruaiiy on noi broad appeal here to many people actually on not just broad appeal here to many people actually on not just the left, our actually on not just the left, but no actually on not just the left, our to rigni actually on not just the left, but the right in actually on not just the left, but the right in the centre, ioo. But the right in the centre, ioo. Kni but the right in the centre, too. And thats but the right in the centre, too. And thats to say that our uniworsiiy too. And thats to say that our University Sector too. And thats to say that our University Sector isnt working in anis University Sector isnt working in this country. University sector isnt working in this country. They have in this country. We they have noon in this country. We they have noonvoy in this country. We they have noonwory nign in this country. We they have been very high esteem been held in very hiin esteem for been held in very high esteem for ooniury been held in very high esteem for century his been held in very high esteem for century his we been held in very high esteem for century his we have several uniworsiiios for century his we have several univorsiiios in for century his we have several universities in the for century his we have several universities in the worlds top 20 in universities in the worlds top 20 in anis universities in the worlds top 20 in this country. So they are aisoiuio 20 in this country. So they are absolute truly 20 in this country. So they are absolute truly world class institutions, absolute truly world class institutions, but theyre fairing institutions, but theyre failing people who graduate from inon failing people who graduate from inon witn failing people who graduate from them with massive amounts of ioni them with massive amounts of ioin. Them with massive amounts of ioin. Kni them with massive amounts of debt. And the them with massive amounts of debt. And the same time, debt. And also at the same time, were not producing debt. And also at the same time, were not producing enough aooiors were not producing enough doctors, nurses were not producing enough doctors, nurses is huge snonagos doctors, nurses is huge snonagos in doctors, nurses is huge shortages in a range of professions shortages in a range of professions and perhaps most inoonanriy professions and perhaps most importantly, and professions and perhaps most importantly, and this is sonorning importantly, and this is something we dont talk about onougn something we dont talk about onougn wnon something we dont talk about enough when it something we dont talk about enough when it comes to universities enough when it comes to universities is enough when it comes to universities is the graduate divisiona universities is the graduate dividend. Average male dividend. So the average male graiuaio dividend. So the average male graduatecountry dividend. So the average male graduate country earns graduate in this country earns aoun graduate in this country earns around £153,000 graduate in this country earns around £153,000 more than they wouii around £153,000 more than they wouia nawo around £153,000 more than they wouia nawo ir around £153,000 more than they would have if they around £153,000 more than they would have if they hadnt gone to uniworsiiy would have if they hadnt gone to uniworsiry. Would have if they hadnt gone to university. Now, in the to university. Now, in the union to university. Now, in the united states, to university. Now, in the united states, that figure is oozoooo united states, that figure is £420,000. Obviously translated from £420,000. Obviously translated from ioiiars £420,000. Obviously translated from dollars into £420,000. Obviously translated from dollars into pounds. So inat from dollars into pounds. So that dividend from dollars into pounds. So that dividend from studying at uniworsiiy that dividend from studying at uniworsiry is that dividend from studying at university is almost three times nignor university is almost three times nignor in university is almost three times nignor in no university is almost three times higher in the Us University is almost three times higher in the us. University is almost three times higher in the us. In france and oornany higher in the us. In france and oornany iis higher in the us. In france and germany, its around £250,000. So germany, its around £250,000. So significant germany, its around £250,000. So significant higher still. So we so significant higher still. So wo nawo so significant higher still. So we have major, so significant higher still. So we have major, major problems witn we have major, major problems wiin rogaris we have major, major problems with regards to we have major, major problems with regards to higher education. With regards to higher education. Its not working for graauaros education. Its not working for graduates because theyre in massive amounts of debt, often it massive amounts of debt, often ii ioosnr massive amounts of debt, often it aoosnr gay massive amounts of debt, often it doesnt pay for massive amounts of debt, often it doesnt pay for them to study. Just it doesnt pay for them to study. Rust rook it doesnt pay for them to study no rook ar it doesnt pay for them to study. Just look at a it doesnt pay for them to study. Just look at a nurse. Theyre sooing. Just look at a nurse. Theyre sooing raiiing. Just look at a nurse. Theyre seeing falling real pay because the government seeing falling real pay because the government wont give them payat the government wont give them nayor ino the government wont give them gayor rno sao the government wont give them pay at the same time , pay rises. At the same time, rnoy pay rises. At the same time, rnoynawo pay rises. At the same time, they have £50,000 worth of they may have £50,000 worth of ioni they may have £50,000 worth of ioin ani they may have £50,000 worth of ioin and its they may have £50,000 worth of debt and its not they may have £50,000 worth of debt and its not working ginor debt and its not working either. And debt and its not working either. And this is hugely inooriani either. And this is hugely important for either. And this is hugely important for people never important for people who never graiuaioi important for people who never graduated either important for people who never graduated either because you iiwo graduated either because you iiwo in graduated either because you iiwo in a graduated either because you live in a country graduated either because you live in a country where we dont nawo live in a country where we dont nawo onougn live in a country where we dont have enough teachers, nurses as doctors have enough teachers, nurses as doctors, massive have enough teachers, nurses as doctors, massive shortages in vocations doctors, massive shortages in vocations that doctors, massive shortages in vocations that create real value from vocations that create real value from oonnuror vocations that create real value from Computer Science to onginooring from Computer Science to onginooring. From Computer Science to engineering. And i think we need engineering. And i think we need a sonsiiio engineering. And i think we need a sensible conversation about now a sensible conversation about now wo a sensible conversation about now wo ao a sensible conversation about now wo no i a sensible conversation about now wo no i in a sensible conversation about how we do it in this country. Kni how we do it in this country. And wo how we do it in this country. And we shouldnt just demonise siuaonis and we shouldnt just demonise siuaonis wno and we shouldnt just demonise students who lower fees and students who want lower fees and ioss students who want lower fees and ioss ioni students who want lower fees and less debt because students who want lower fees and less debt because theres a big onworsaiion less debt because theres a Big Conversation about the public good conversation about the public good ani conversation about the public good and now conversation about the public good and how we do things differently. Good and how we do things differently. May good and how we do things differently. Titty 7 r good and how we do things differently. Titty 7 � c� rzttt; differently. May i . But in there that that was great. But could that that was great. But could that dividend be explained actually by the funding models of universities . Because in america they are so expensive and you have to pay some of it upfront. Of course, so that people are more selective with the courses that they choose because yours. Would you admit that in this country we, the young people have sometimes been guided towards degrees guided wrongly towards degrees that will add no benefit to their career. Theyve been told inoy their career. Theyve been told inoyanyining their career. Theyve been told theyanything told, t t cc theyve been told they anything told, they they can be anything told, they can they can be anything told, they oanlanyining they can be anything told, they cananything put they can be anything told, they can anything put on courses can be anything put on courses ani can be anything put on courses and orusn can be anything put on courses and crush their can be anything put on courses and crush their dreams. Sooioiogy. And crush their dreams. Sooioiogy. So and crush their dreams. Sociology. So sociology or Something Like that at a second Rate University or third rate Rate University or a third Rate University city, they may have not in their not done very well in their a levels at all. Theyre put in university where they huge university where they have huge amounts and then , you amounts of debt and then, you know, theyre not know, of course theyre not going better as going to get a betterjob as a result. So going to get a betterjob as a result. So i dont think thats result. So i dont think thats ino result. So i dont think thats no ornrnon so i dont think thats the common experience for most siuionis the common experience for most sruionrs. So the common experience for most students. So most the common experience for most students. So most who students. So most people who study students. So most people who siuiy in students. So most people who study in anis students. So most people who study in this country are doing iusinoss study in this country are doing businessthats business degrees. Thats the first noonio business degrees. Thats the. First people arent first thing. Most people arent sruaying first thing. Most people arent studying or first thing. Most people arent studying or foreign studying humanities or foreign ianguagos languages. Most people are studying languages. Most people are studyingkna languages. Most people are studyingand i. Languages. Most people are studying and i think studying business. And i think toroign studying business. And i think foreign languages. Tired foreign languages. I study arose. Foreign languages. I study those. Degree. Those. Thats a proper degree. You know, im not sorry, im not knocking you know, im not sorry, im not knooking n, you know, im not sorry, im not knocking it, but you know, im not sorry, im not knocking it, but think so. Knocking it, but i think so. Inais knocking it, but i think so. Was ino knocking it, but i think so. Thats the point, is that thats the first point, is that won thats the first point, is that wory aoiuaiiy thats the first point, is that. Very actually study very few people actually study rnoso rnar very few people actually study. These that. Tend these these degrees that we tend to these these degrees that we tend rooasiigaio. These these degrees that we tend tocastigate. We these these degrees that we tend tocastigate. We can. To really castigate. And we can nawo to really castigate. 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Would you t ill say one quick thing. doctors. Ill say one quick thing. Would you say everyone should be choose what . Should be able to choose what . Well ill just all pay well ill say ill just all pay for it. I that you dont for it. I think that you dont have to. You shouldnt have to go have to. You shouldnt have to fie be go to university to be a success. And go to university to be a success. And i go to university to be a success. And i think along with roininking success. And i think along with rethinking education, the rethinking higher education, the fact rethinking higher education, the tactwo rethinking higher education, the raoiwo nay rethinking higher education, the fact we pay apprentices the fact that we pay apprentices the minimum fact that we pay apprentices thei nininun in minimum wage for apprentices in this minimum wage for apprentices in inisinink minimum wage for apprentices in thisthinklabout this country, i think is about norso. This country, i think is about £4. 50. Shocking. This country, i think is about £4. 50. Shocking what £4. 50. Its crazy shocking what 16 £4. 50. Its crazy shocking what io yoar £4. 50. Its crazy shocking what no yoar ori £4. 50. Its crazy shocking what 16 year old kid £4. 50. Its crazy shocking what 16 year old kid is £4. 50. Its crazy shocking what 16 year old kid is going to want to work 16 year old kid is going to want to work for 16 year old kid is going to want to work for that 16 year old kid is going to want to work for that money. Well, rook to work for that money. Well, iook in to work for that money. Well, iook in a to work for that money. Well, look, in a few to work for that money. Well, look, in a few years youll be a iriokiayor look, in a few years youll be a iriokiayor or look, in a few years youll be a bricklayer or youll look, in a few years youll be a bricklayer or youll an bricklayer or youll be an electrician bel bricklayer or youll be an. Electrician be on electrician and youll be on groar electrician and youll be on groar nony electrician and youll be on great money. 16 electrician and youll be on great money. 16 year olds dont inink great money. 16 year olds dont ininkrnar. Great money. 16 year olds dont thinkthat. In great money. 16 year olds dont thinkthat. In. Samel think like that. In the same way were that university were told that the university is the key to all is going to be the key to all of our future success. Maybe our future success. Then maybe they would. But isnt this yet anoinor they would. But isnt this yet anoinorin they would. But isnt this yet anotherin this they would. But isnt this yet. Anotherin this country . Another problem in this country . Can iony another problem in this country . Can iony gut. Can trace back to tony blair, you can trace back to tony blair, youeducation, can trace back to tony blair, you education, that can trace back to tony blair, youeducation, that is you know, education, that man is aisoiuioiy. You know, education, that man is absolutely. You you know, education, that man is absolutely. You can| absolutely unflushable. You can spray absolutely unflushable. You can spray owory absolutely unflushable. You can spray owory singio absolutely unflushable. You can spray every single societal iony spray every single societal issue, tony blair if you look nari issue, tony blair if you look nari onougn issue, tony blair if you look hard enough, but we need to also stop hard enough, but we need to also stop stigmatising hard enough, but we need to also stop stigmatising people who, iois stop stigmatising people who, ioisinoyro stop stigmatising people who, letstheyre not stop stigmatising people who, lets theyre not made for lets say theyre not made for no lets say theyre not made for no way lets say theyre not made for no way inat lets say theyre not made for the way that we lets say theyre not made for the way that we are examined in sonoois the way that we are examined in sonoois ai the way that we are examined in schools at the the way that we are examined in schools at the moment. That was the schools at the moment. That was rnonoini schools at the moment. That was inonoini or schools at the moment. That was thepoint of the schools at the moment. That was the point of the grammar, schools at the moment. That was the grammarint of the grammar, schools at the moment. That was the grammar systemie grammar, schools at the moment. That was the grammar system stigmatising anon the grammar system stigmatising anonsay the grammar system stigmatising anonsaytusil them go and say to them, just quay, them go and say to them, just guiokiy iook them go and say to them, just quickly,look, if them go and say to them, just quickly, look, if you quickly, you know, look, if you do quickly, you know, look, if you ioio quickly, you know, look, if you ioio go quickly, you know, look, if you ioio gogor do want to go and get a oraoiioai do want to go and get a practical trade, we should hold inat practical trade, we should hold inaiosroon practical trade, we should hold thatesteem. A that in higher esteem as a sooiory that in higher esteem as a sooiorywo that in higher esteem as a society we actually society than we actually do. Inais society than we actually do. Thatslgrammar society than we actually do. Thatslgrammargoes thats a grammar system goes onoraioa thats a grammar system goes onoraroi oia. Thats a grammar system goes operated old. Kids operated at 11 years old. Kids wno operated at 11 years old. Kids who won operated at 11 years old. Kids who went ro operated at 11 years old. Kids who went to Grammar School maybe went into more cognitive who went to Grammar School maybe went into nfrom ognitive who went to Grammar School maybe went into nfrom those le went who went to Grammar School maybe wenmore nfrom those le went who went to Grammar School maybe wenmore vocational;ele went into more vocational professions, went to technical school, schools. School, left Grammar Schools. Yes. I think that, know, yes. I think that, you know, youo yes. I think that, you know, youro kios yes. I think that, you know, youre kids at. Yes. I think that, you know, youre kids at a| youre writing off kids at a youngor youre writing off kids at a youngor ago youre writing off kids at a younger age and its not good for equity, younger age and its not good for equality, etcetera, oiooiora for equality, etcetera, etcetera. But i dont i dont uniorsrani etcetera. But i dont i dont understand that etcetera. But i dont i dont understand that argument. Ill tell understand that argument. Ill tori kignrsl understand that argument. Illi tori rights iiy tell you something. Right . My business let, right . Business is buy to let, right . I have properties i have a Student Properties and i rent to students. And rent them out to students. And so see. So i see as so i see. So i see as applications coming in mostly from overseas actually. And ive noficed noticed that the intake i get from and from africa and in asia and places like that, they dont come to do of courses come to do some of the courses that youre about. That youre talking about. Theyre to do theyre theyre coming to do stuff leads directly to stuff that leads directly to a job. At job. Theyre not doing it at fashionable as fashionable universities. As i went to places like staffordshire and Staffordshire University and central lancashire and places like that, these arent fashionable universities. They arent, they arent abbott league or abbott group universities, but theyre choosing courses that lead directly work. Whether directly to work. Whether they do or go back do that work here or go back home it there. Its very home and do it there. Its very interesting because theyre strategizing theyre strategizing and theyre making their pointed. But their choices more pointed. But aaron though, is your t trt r t car but aaron though, is your argument inat aaron though, is your argument inaias aaron though, is your argument inaias rar aaron though, is your argument thatas far as aaron though, is your argument thatas far as the that actually, as far as the tour that actually, as far as the debt burden that actually, as far as the debt burden is that actually, as far as the debt burden is concerned, that we debt burden is concerned, that wo roosl we should scrap certain fees aiiogoinor we should scrap certain fees altogether for. We should scrap certain fees altogether for. T rtuti � we should scrap certain fees altogether for. cir . A altogether for. Yeah, i think we i think we have a National Emergency with for emergency with the nhs, for instance. With instance. So i think with nurses, think we should scrap nurses, i think we should scrap their debt and think their existing debt and i think we probably scrap tuition we should probably scrap tuition fees subjects. Fees for certain subjects. People would agree with on people would agree with you on inat people would agree with you on innnonr that, but i dont see why a hairdresser that, but i dont see why a hairdresser in that, but i dont see why a hairdresser in kendal be hairdresser in kendal should be paying hairdresser in kendal should be payingsruionr hairdresser in kendal should be payingstudentofl paying for the student loan of someone well paying for the student loan of someone well in someone doing well in knightsbridge, example. Well knightsbridge, for example. Well you an knightsbridge, for example. Well you say knightsbridge, for example. Well you say inat knightsbridge, for example. Well you can say that about any nuiiio you can say that about any ouiiioyou you can say that about anyi nuiiioyousay Public Service you could say anar Public Service you could say thattransport that around transport infrastructure. That infrastructure. You can say that about because point about the nhs, because the point is im going have is drive. But im going to have to stop is drive. But im going to have to stopinoro. Is drive. But im going to have to stopthere. Well, r t but im going to have to stop there. Well, they to stop you there. Well, they nigni to stop you there. Well, they nignion to stop you there. Well, they mighton that to stop you there. Well, they might on that note. Oh might use it on that note. Oh siiii might use it on that note. Oh sriii anon might use it on that note. Oh still ahead, last might use it on that note. Oh still ahead, last but not least, mav still ahead, last but not least, nayltusr still ahead, last but not least, may just sociology may i just say that sociology i asni may i just say that sociology ii wasnt sociology. Wasnt slagging off sociology. I wasnt slagging off sociology. Isaying wasnt slagging off sociology. Isaying anar wasnt slagging off sociology. Isaying that its wasnt slagging off sociology. Isaying that its not. Wasnt slagging off sociology. Ilhighisaying that its not. Wasnt slagging off sociology. I high earningig that its not wasnt slagging off sociology. I high earning degree its not wasnt slagging off sociology. I high earning degree ifs not wasnt slagging off sociology. I high earning degree if yout a high earning degree if you look at the stats. Anyway, still ahead, but not least, ahead, last but not least, patrick to tell why patrick is going to tell us why Asylum Seekers refuse Asylum Seekers who refuse accommodation Asylum Seekers who refuse accommoortion Asylum Seekers who refuse accommoor study sociology with deported or study sociology with the saturday live on gb the saturday five live on gb news is. On mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, the governments silenced covid critics during the pandemic. Is anyone surgrisoio the pandemic. Is anyone surprised . Plus the pandemic. Is anyone surprised . Plus as is anyone surprised . Plus as the excellent uk surprised . Plus as the excellent uk kusiraiia surprised . Plus as the excellent uk australia trade surprised . Plus as the excellent uk australia trade deal kicks in, uk australia trade deal kicks in krona uk australia trade deal kicks in, brexit, britain is proving ino in, brexit, britain is proving the doubters in, brexit, britain is proving the doubters wrong. 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Its were live from 9 to 11 on gb news news. C were live from 9 to 11 on gb news news. C rt. Tonights topics. Claire says , tonights topics. Claire says, in my day, students didnt get loans. They took jobs to pay loans. They took jobs to pay their through university their way through university that also got a work that way. They also got a work ethic and says this is an absolutely superb panel and your fiver is in the post among reason appears totally unscripted and just great. Freddie says your programs are all fab, including all your presenters. But since recently starting to watch gb news patrick gets the victoria cross. For me, thats an outrage. Hes for me, thats an outrage. Hes already got a big enough 3 hes already got a big enough head. Inank already got a big enough head. Inank you. Already got a big enough head. Thank you. Well, already got a big enough head. Thank you. � tfiirtgt rig already got a big enough head. Thank you. � tfiirtgt rig c thank you. Well, hey, now its time. Its thank you. Well, hey, now its time. Its time thank you. Well, hey, now its time. Its time for thank you. Well, hey, now its time. Its time for our thank you. � tfiirtgt rig c c its time for our next time. Its time for our next rotato time. Its time for our next ioiaio. Kni time. Its time for our next debate. And its c its time for our next debate. And its not on the size of ranks debate. And its not on the size of patricks head debate. And its not on the size of patricks head. Debate. And its not on the size of patricks head. Up next is of patricks head. Up next is iairiok of patricks head. Up next is patrick. What of patricks head. Up next is patrick. What you tell us about the patrick. What you tell us about no asyiun patrick. What you tell us about the Asylum Seekers refuse accommodation option and why inoy accommodation option and why rnoy snouia accommodation option and why they should simply be deport it. Its they should simply be deport it. Its rino they should simply be deport it. Its rino for they should simply be deport it. Its time for christies kicks off. Its time for christies kicks off. Okay. Its time for christies kicks off. Okay. All its time for christies kicks off. Okay. All right. Its time for christies kicks off. [its sq t g its time for christies kicks off. G off. Okay. All right. So people who refuse to live in taxpayer funded, perfectly legal , funded, perfectly legal, perfectly serviceable hotels should be given some choices. Well fly you straight home. Okay . Well take you to rwanda or. And or you can video your mates on the other side of the channel and tell them not to bother because its clearly awful. Here we have a situation at where asylum at the moment where Asylum Seekers off big time seekers are kicking off big time because dont want to live because they dont want to live in the kind of accommodation that veterans that homeless military veterans would absolutely love to be housed in. Wi fi food, bed board and a little bit of an allowance. Take a look at this. Allowance. Take a look at this. And why do they not like this notor and why do they not like this noroi o and why do they not like this hotel. 7 this and why do they not like this hotel. 7 this hotel and why do they not like this hotel. 7 this hotel is and why do they not like this hotel . � g hotel . This hotel is not good. Really. Have too much rooms , really. Have too much rooms, very small bathroom, too small. Very small bathroom, too small. Yeah, too much. Im so sorry about yeah, too much. Im so sorry about inan yeah, too much. Im so sorry about that. Thats yeah, too much. Im so sorry about that. Thats really, roaiiy about that. Thats really, really shocking that the iarnroon really shocking that the bathroom is really shocking that the bathroom is too small. But you navo bathroom is too small. But you nawo iii ri bathroom is too small. But you nawo iii ii. Bathroom is too small. But you have wi fi. Yeah, bathroom is too small. But you. Have wi fi. Yeah,have have wi fi. Yeah. Yeah, you have iii ii. Have wi fi. Yeah. Yeah, you have iii riwi ri have wi fi. Yeah. Yeah, you have iii riiii ri is have wi fi. Yeah. Yeah, you have wi fi. Wi fi is a have wi fi. Yeah. Yeah, you have wi fi. Wi fi is a good or wi fi. Wi fi wi fi is a good or nai wi fi. Wi fi wi fi is a good or ban for wi fi. Wi fi wi fi is a good or iaa roryouo wi fi. Wi fi wi fi is a good or bad for you . Yeah. Wi fi. Wi fi wi fi is a good or bad for you . Yeah. £8. So you get bad for you . Yeah. £8. So you goi os bad for you . Yeah. £8. So you goi no a bad for you . Yeah. £8. So you got no a wook bad for you . Yeah. £8. So you get £8 a week plus food plus accommodation get £8 a week plus food plus accommodation. Get £8 a week plus food plus accommodation. You get free accommodation. You get free iii ii. Accommodation. You get free wi ri. Nur accommodation. You get free wi fi. But the accommodation. You get free wi fi. But the wi fi is a bit stow. Wi fi. But the wi fi is a bit siow. In wi fi. But the wi fi is a bit siow. M sorry wi fi. But the wi fi is a bit slow. Im sorry about that. Slow. Im sorry about that. Uroii slow. Im sorry about that. Work try slow. Im sorry about that. Work try ana slow. Im sorry about that. Well try and see if we can help. Kos well try and see if we can help. Kos. Rooki well try and see if we can help. Yes. Well there well try and see if we can help. Yes. Well there we well try and see if we can help. Yes. Well there we go. Okay. I ono. Yes. Well there we go. Okay. I mean, the reality is that the European Union is treating Asylum Seekers worse than we are. And these people in many cases have travelled across to two continents and they clearly have not been happy with the treatment anyway. Where theyve treatment anyway. Where theyve gone, they are not Asylum Seekers in my view. They are asylum shoppers. So those are my views. Okay, aaron, what do you think . It was a strange video, think . It was a strange video, nur think . It was a strange video, but wnai think . It was a strange video, but wnar ii think . It was a strange video, but what id say think . It was a strange video, but what id say to 57 it was a strange video, but what id say to you, pang, but what id say to you, patrick, is but what id say to you, patrick, is those young people , patrick, is those young people, youngisn patrick, is those young people, youngish pewter patrick, is those young people, youngish people, theyre in a roaiiy youngish people, theyre in a really strange youngish people, theyre in a really strange situation. They cani really strange situation. They out work. Really strange situation. They cant work. Yeah, really strange situation. They cant work. Yeah, they cant earn money. They cant access ino earn money. They cant access no kings earn money. They cant access no kinds of earn money. They cant access the kinds of things which give us self respect the kinds of things which give us self respect. The kinds of things which give us self respect. And i feel us self respect. And i feel gt. Us self respect. And i feel are, okay us self respect. And i feel are, okay i us self respect. And i feel like, okay, it seems strange to say like, okay, it seems strange to say it like, okay, it seems strange to say it youwo like, okay, it seems strange to say if youve been like, okay, it seems strange to say if youve been in sangatte or a camp say if youve been in sangatte or a sang oiry say if youve been in sangatte or a camp city in say if youve been in sangatte or a camp city in in france and say or a camp city in in france and say war, or a camp city in in france and say, well, actually or a camp city in in france and say, well, actually this room in contrai say, well, actually this room in Central London say, well, actually this room in Central London isnt good onougn. Central london isnt good onougn. Nui Central London isnt good enough. But i Central London isnt good enough. But i can absolutely see why enough. But i can absolutely see wny rnoy enough. But i can absolutely see wny rnoy wouia enough. But i can absolutely see why they would be enough. But i can absolutely see why they would be miserable, ooorossoi. Why they would be miserable, depressed. And why they would be miserable, depressed. And do depressed. And i do think a significant depressed. And i do think a significant amount that could significant amount of that could be significant amount of that could no niiigaioi significant amount of that could no nirigaroa ny significant amount of that could be mitigated by letting them work. Be mitigated by letting them work. Vou be mitigated by letting them work. You think be mitigated by letting them work. rt r be mitigated by letting them work. rt r work. You think you should let them my argument with that them work . My argument with that would be that we dont know who a these people are or a lot of these people are or necessarily where necessarily exactly where theyve there will necessarily exactly where the some there will necessarily exactly where the some security there will necessarily exactly where the some Security Issues here will necessarily exactly where the some Security Issues at e will necessarily exactly where the some Security Issues at playl be some Security Issues at play there would be my there as well. That would be my primary concern. They as primary concern. They do work as work. Primary concern. They do work as work. Inoy primary concern. They do work as work. Inoyio primary concern. They do work as work. Inoyio ir primary concern. They do work as well. Theydo it on primary concern. They do work as well. Theydo it on and by t t they do work as well. They do it on and we well. They just do it on and we navo well. They just do it on and we havelwork well. They just do it on and we have lworksystem well. They just do it on and we have work system and that have a work visa system and that wouii have a work visa system and that wouiia have a work visa system and that wouiia ioiai have a work visa system and that would a total mockery of would make a total mockery of rnar. Would make a total mockery of rnar. Ir would make a total mockery of that. If anyone, would make a total mockery of that. If anyone, if would make a total mockery of that. If anyone, if you would make a total mockery of that. � � rt r that. If anyone, if you jump on a and cross the channel, a dinghy and cross the channel, then work here with no then you can work here with no problems. Is problems. I think what is ridiculous with you ridiculous and i agree with you on is just how long on this one, is just how long they are kept these they are being kept in these hotels. Absolutely. They knew hotels. Absolutely. If they knew that to three that it was going to be three months, got yes no, months, youve got a yes no, then wouldnt be then they probably wouldnt be kicking fuss. But kicking up this fuss. Right. But they more it. I they should make more of it. I think we should seriously be purring think we should seriously be putting wiaoo think we should seriously be putting video like that out and ioaning putting video like that out and beaming channel, beaming them across the channel, ioauso beaming them across the channel, iooausolnoonio beaming them across the channel, because people seriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat people seriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat peris seriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls aieriously beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls a land sly beaming them across the channel, becalthat perls a land of think that this is a land of niik think that this is a land of niiknonoy think that this is a land of milkhoneyiml think that this is a land of milk honey im not milk and honey and im not surnrisoa milk and honey and im not surprised given milk and honey and im not surprised given the that in surprised given the fact that in some cases, like surprised given the fact that in some cases, like in greece, rnoyro some cases, like in greece, theyre then theyre kept on islands and then inoy theyre kept on islands and then inoyokay theyre kept on islands and then inoyokay youwo theyre kept on islands and then they okay, youve been they are told, okay, youve been granioi granted refugee, your asylum siaius granted refugee, your asylum status nays granted refugee, your asylum status iays ioi status, youve got 30 days to get status, youve got 30 days to gotor status, youve got 30 days to gotor noro status, youve got 30 days to getof here with status, youve got 30 days to get of here with real get out of here with no real oanono get out of here with no real onanootoi get out of here with no real chance. Job or get out of here with no real chance job or anything to chance of a job or anything to nasioaiiy basically a homeless. So they nowoi basically a homeless. So they nowoion basically a homeless. So they movedon,wouldj basically a homeless. So they. Movedon,would be moved them on, which would be absolutely ml absolutely advertising some of this absolutely advertising some of thissay, absolutely advertising some of thissay, took, absolutely advertising some of this say, look, youre not this and say, look, youre not going this and say, look, youre not goingbe this and say, look, youre not goingbe happy, this and say, look, youre not going be happy, so dont going to be happy, so dont bother going to be happy, so dont bother lot bother coming. But also a lot of people pointed that people have pointed out that they love live in they would love to live in Central London in zone one. Pimlico, the most pimlico, one of the most expensive country. Expensive areas of the country. And have strange, and we have this strange, bizarre situation have bizarre situation where you have Asylum Seekers in prime property, real estate in Central London. Well more and more people are having to move out and out and out and out and out. And tell you what, the sight and i tell you what, the sight of actually, that the of reading actually, that the home officials went in Home Office Officials went in after this protest and after seeing this protest and thought, well, weve got to deal with this. What about a whole host with this. What about a whole hostproblems with this. What about a whole hostproblems that what about a whole host problems that weve got host of problems that weve got going host of problems that weve got goingwhere host of problems that weve got goingwherearent. Going on where crimes arent being going on where crimes arent being investigated . Know , being investigated . You know, got being investigated . You know, got taw being investigated . You know, weve got law and order running amok weve got law and order running amok in weve got law and order running amok in this weve got law and order running amok in this country. If you amok in this country. But if you come here illegally, rock up and say come here illegally, rock up and soy youo come here illegally, rock up and soy youo noo come here illegally, rock up and say youre not happy with your your say youre not happy with your your grub say youre not happy with your your grub or say youre not happy with your your grub or your say youre not happy with your your grub or your the your grub or your wi fi, the home your grub or your wi fi, the home office your grub or your wi fi, the home office will your grub or your wi fi, the home office will come out and sort home office will come out and sort it home office will come out and sort it out home office will come out and sort it ouoyou. Home office will come out and sort it outyou. No sort it out for you. No questions. Sort it out for you. No questions. I sort it out for you. No questions. 91; sort it out for you. No questions. 9 . Sort it out for you. No questions. I get i mean, i was dead against the iraq war and i think made amount of think we made a huge amount of mistakes afghanistan. So im mistakes in afghanistan. So im not the fact that not disputing the fact that there people in those there are people in those countries you countries who do need help. You know, hes iraqi. Thats just know, if hes iraqi. Thats just what what i do what he said. But what i do know, what i do know is that there are people who fought for this iraq in this country in iraq and in afghanistan are homeless. This country in iraq and in afghthere|n are homeless. This country in iraq and in afghthere are are homeless. This country in iraq and in afghthere are people 1omeless. This country in iraq and in afghthere are people fromless. This country in iraq and in afghthere are people from those and there are people from those countries who we are giving free hotels to. I would say, look, just to add to what people have already said here, i think its partly i said, cant partly like i said, it cant work. A miserable work. Its a very miserable oxioonooo work. Its a very miserable existence. But its a very miserable existence. But also its not noo existence. But also its not likeprison existence. But also its not. Likeprison because, existence. But also its not likeprison because, of like being in prison because, of oourooou v like being in prison because, of oourooou v oonl course, you can leave. You can you course, you can leave. You can you on course, you can leave. You can you w. Course, you can leave. You can you can walkbut course, you can leave. You can you can walk but that you can walk around. But that poo you can walk around. But that processseveral you can walk around. But that process several years , process being several years, again, process being several years,. G. N process being several years, again, it must process being several years, again, it must be incredibly miserable. Again, it must be incredibly miserable. Theres again, it must be incredibly miserabletheres of miserable. And theres a part of memo my miserable. And theres a part of mo momy of miserable. And theres a part of m momy of youl miserable. And theres a part of. Mom moo of you guys me and im sure many of you guys mom mm might disagree with this, mooo might disagree with this, memosof might disagree with this, theresof me might disagree with this, theres of me that might disagree with this, theresof me that thinks theres a part of me that thinks theres a part of me that thinks mo tomes theres a part of me that thinks the tories want theres a part of me that thinks the tories want this process to be the tories want this process to po omo the tories want this process to po omo long the tories want this process to be and long winded the tories want this process to bbecause and long winded the tories want this process to bbecause fundamentally,] winded the tories want this process to bbecause fundamentally, the1ded , because fundamentally, the moomo , because fundamentally, the more the issue , because fundamentally, the more the issue of more we have the issue of illegal more we have the issue of illegal migration us up the up the illegal migration us up the up mo smoo illegal migration us up the up the issues in illegal migration us up the up the issues in terms of the most oouom the issues in terms of the most salient issue, the issues in terms of the most salient issue, it the issues in terms of the most salient issue, it plays very wou salient issue, it plays very well for salient issue, it plays very well for us. Salient issue, it plays very well for us. But salient issue, it plays very well for us. But i think you mom well for us. But i think you mpom po well for us. But i think you might be right, well for us. But i think you might be right, im not. Might be right, but im not. Rm might be right, but im not. Rm moo. Might be right, but im not. Rm moo. So might be right, but im not. Rm moo. So i might be right, but im not. Im not. So i think might be right, but im not. So i think the numbers, im not. So i think the numbers, the im not. So i think the numbers, mo momops im not. So i think the numbers, the numbers of so i think the numbers, the numbers of immigration, the moment the numbers of immigration, the mom of the numbers of immigration, the treatment of immigration is as it treatment of immigration is as mlpooooso treatment of immigration is as it because governments it is, because governments successive governments over the ooso opsomoooyl last 20, 25 years are absolutely happy and last 20, 25 years are absolutely poppy and om last 20, 25 years are absolutely poppy and om yourl happy where it is. And on your pomp happy where it is. And on your pomm happy where it is. And on your pomm mo happy where it is. And on your point it, the inability to point about it, the inability to work point about it, the inability to workmmo point about it, the inability to workthink that point about it, the inability to work think that is work back, i think that is ooooouy work back, i think that is actually counterproductive work back, i think that is actually thatszrproductive work back, i think that is actually thatszrprodltheye work back, i think that is actually thatszrprodlthey drift because thats when they drift moo. Because thats when they drift moo. Moos into criminality. Thats when moo into criminality. Thats when moooomo into criminality. Thats wheni theydoingthats they start doing drugs. Thats whom they start doing drugs. Thats. When involved when they start getting involved in when they start getting involved m mpom when they start getting involved m mpom oooi in anything else they might get involved in anything else they might get involved m in anything else they might get involved in and in anything else they might get involved in and causing problems involved in and causing problems m omos. Involved in and causing problems m omos. So involved in and causing problems in cities. So you in towns and cities. So you womomo in towns and cities. So you wouldnt want in towns and cities. So you wouldnt want to in towns and cities. So you wouldnt wantto no, wouldnt want them to work . No, i i wouldnt want them to work . No, pp womo wouldnt want them to work . No, pp woooo oo wouldnt want them to work . No, ii would do want wouldnt want them to work . No, i i would do want them i think no, i would do want them to i think no, i would do want them oo okoy. I think no, i would do want them oo okoy. Yeom to work. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Im going to work. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Im going to work. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Im going ooo to work. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Im going my7 why to work. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Im going but why . Why have going to be. But why . Why have worker going to be. But why . Why have workerbecause. Going to be. But why . Why have workerbecause. Ibecause| worker visas . Because. Because moos worker visas . Because. Because thats because a lot thats the thing. Because a lot of people across the of people come across the channel now are from india, for example, imply example, which would imply to me, easy me, given that its quite easy to for if youre to get a visa for if youre coming india, that they coming from india, that they are people an people who would not meet an economic threshold. Right. Economic threshold. All right. Were going to have to leave it there. Personally,| think there. Personally, i dont think its there. Personally, i dont think rrs weu there. Personally, i dont think rrs wekk for there. Personally, i dont think its well for thei its going to work well for the ropes its going to work well for the ropesr its going to work well for the toriesi think its going to work well for the tories i think theyre tories because i think theyre going tories because i think theyre goingclobbered tories because i think theyre going clobbered the going to be clobbered at the merr going to be clobbered at the next election going to be clobbered at the next election over this very rssoeeemp next election over this very issue. Been another issue. But its been another oreor ror issue. But its been another great for watching great show. Cheers for watching rmoo great show. Cheers for watching rmoo reokkyl linda says. Great show, really emerrommo linda says. Great show, really emeomorep linda says. Great show, really enten more can linda says. Great show, really enten more can we say to what more can we say to that . Nem what more can we say to that . Nero op, what more can we say to that . Nero uppokom what more can we say to that . Next up, dolan. Cheers for next up, mark dolan. Cheers for worommo. Next up, mark dolan. Cheers for watching. Evening. Next up, mark dolan. Cheers for watching. 9 next up, mark dolan. Cheers for. Watching. Evening. Im greg watching. Good evening. Im Greg Dewhurst welcome your dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. It quite chilly it does turn quite chilly tonight, High Pressure tonight, but with High Pressure in charge, plenty of in charge, well see plenty of sunshine through sunday and temperatures climbing particularly in the west High Pressure centre just to the north of us means the wind still coming in from the northeast. So eastern coast a little bit chilly , but further west, chilly, but further west, temperatures remaining above average the time of year. Temperatures remaining above average the time of year. So average for the time of year. So fine end to the day we will see some low cloud across northeast scotland and also Eastern England feeding slowly back inland, making its way towards the midlands during early the midlands during the early hours. But therell be lots of dry around clear skies dry weather around clear skies in the west and we could see a few shallow and patches few shallow mist and fog patches and temperatures dipping into single figures. So yes, a chilly start to sunday morning, but for many sunny start. We have many a sunny start. We do have low and eastern low cloud. Central and eastern parts. This slowly burns back towards the coast, i think eastern parts of scotland, the towards the east coast of england could see some low cloud at times. And with that northeasterly breeze, it will be quite chilly. Temperatures struggling there, 13 struggling grimsby there, 13 degrees. Come further west, degrees. But come further west, temperatures into the low temperatures rising into the low 20s locally, 25 degrees is possible , say for parts of west possible, say for parts of west wales into the evening time and plenty of dry weather to come. Maybe an isolated shower across scotland, but most places dry and then overnight we see the low cloud pushing back in from the north sea, thicker and lower. And this could just produce a few spots of drizzle though. Western areas staying dry and clear once more and temperatures again into single figures. So a temperatures again into single figures. So a bit of a westie split to start monday morning. Sunny skies towards northern ireland, scotland, west wales, the west country. Elsewhere quite cloudy. But again, the cloud through the day should lift and break and slowly retreat towards the coast. It might take its time and temperatures rising to the mid 20s in the west and tuesday and wednesday staying very similar. Wednesday staying very similar. Further sunshine and high temperatures. Well. Good evening. Its 9 00 on well. Good evening. Its 9 00 on rekevrsrom well. Good evening. Its 9 00 on rekevrsrom om well. Good evening. Its 9 00 on television, on radio well. Good evening. Its 9 00 on television, on radio and � fkr� rz;. 9 its 9 00 on television, on radio and online in television, on radio and online m me
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