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Go. I expose the gutless cowards. I expose the gutless cowards. Next. Good evening. Next. Good evening. The top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that the Prime Minister says he is very concerned about commons concerned about the Commons Speakers handling of the Gaza Ceasefire debate yesterday. It ceasefire debate yesterday. It comes after dozens of mps walked out of Parliament Last evening as the three main Political Parties sought to outmanoeuvre each other over the vote. Sir Lindsay Hoyle has reiterated his fulsome apology for allowing both the government and Labour Amendments to be debated. Well 67 mp5 amendments to be debated. Well 67 mps have now signed a motion of no confidence in sir Lindsay Hoyle , calling for him to resign hoyle, calling for him to resign , and that includes more than half of mps in the Scottish National party , with snp national party, with snp westminster leader Stephen Flynn telling the speaker his position is now untenable. But sir keir is now untenable. But sir keir starmer says the speaker did the right thing by selecting labours amendment in the debate and denies threatening him or influencing him in any way. Well, despite the arguments in parliament about a ceasefire in the middle east today, uk aid was flown into the Northern Gaza Strip in a joint aid mission partnered with jordan. The uk funded shipment is part of £1 million package of aid due to deliver essential medicines, fuel and food for patients and staff at a hospital there. The foreign secretary , lord cameron, foreign secretary, lord cameron, saying it will have an immediate impact, adding that thousands of patients will benefit from the life saving airdrop. Now in the life saving airdrop. Now in the United States tonight, the former Prime Minister, liz truss , has been speaking at the conservative Political Action conference , or cpac, for short. Conference, or cpac, for short. She told a republican crowd that it is vital now for joe she told a republican crowd that it is vital now forjoe biden to it is vital now for joe biden to be. Her words kicked out of the white house, adding its critical for the future of the west. She also argued that the west. She also argued that the left had weaponized schooling, policing and immigration, adding the west now has a new kind of economics called woke nomics. Economics called woke nomics. The former Prime Minister is in washington to speak alongside nigel farage and donald trump, who will make the headline speech on saturday. The mother of. Putin speech on saturday. The mother of. Putin dissident speech on saturday. The mother of. Putin dissident alexei of. Putin dissident Alexei Navalny has accused russian investigators of planning to bury her son in secret and without a funeral. Lyudmila navalny says she has now finally been able to view her sons body after being taken to a morgue last night. 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And as that wet weather eases, the met office is now warning of colder temperatures this weekend that could drop below minus three in some areas. For the very latest some areas. For the very latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. Scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. I think the slash alerts. I think the speaker of the house of commons, sir Lindsay Hoyle, is shamelessly hiding behind the terrorist threat to divert from the idea that he could say shady, grubby deal with sir Keir Starmers labour party over the ceasefire vote. Mr hoyle and starmer both deny the accusation, but its the labour leader who is the big villain in all of this. The fact is that if sir lindsay hadnt gone feral yesterday and allowed a Labour Amendment, all the headunes a Labour Amendment, all the headlines today would be about the total turmoil. Keir starmer the total turmoil. Keir starmer is in. 100 labour mps were set to rebel against him last night. Shadow cabinet ministers going the Catastrophic Division in the labour party would have been presented the wound presented like the gaping wound it for all to see in it is for all to see in a general election year. Look how happy labour mps were today. Apparently they cheered the speaker when he went into the commons tea room. One of two things have happened here. Either labour bigwigs have got sir lindsay by the ear lobe and told him that itll be out of a job under a Labour Government if he doesnt do what they want, or sir keir starmer played the sir keir starmer has played the youll have blood hands youll have blood on your hands card. Either way, its card. Either way, its absolutely shameful. And the speaker of the house, penny mordaunt, or should i say leader of the house penny mordaunt, was on earlier today. On to starmer earlier today. We have seen into the heart of labours leadership not nothing is more important than the interests of the labour party , the labour party, before party, the labour party, before more principle, the labour party before individual rights , the before individual rights, the labour party before the reputation and honour of the decent man that sits in speakers chair. Well now keir starmer has come out and said this today. I can categorically tell you that i did not threaten the speaker in any way whatsoever. I speaker in any way whatsoever. I simply urged him to ensure that we have the broadest possible debate and your mps , the debate and your mps, the broadest possible debate. Um, so broadest possible debate. Um, so that actually the most important thing, which is what do we do about the awful situation in gaza, could be properly discussed by mps. But then Lindsay Hoyle today stands up and essentially said he received information that could mean that attacks on members of parliament were imminent and there was an increased terror threat. I had serious meetings yesterday with the police on the issues and threats to politicians , threats, threats to politicians, threats, heading to an election , and i do heading to an election, and i do not want anything to happen again. Again. So yes , i will apologise. I so yes, i will apologise. I always will when i make a mistake. Mistake. Im on a minute where did that come from then, sir lindsay , was it starmer. 7 we know sir keir starmer went to visit Lindsay Hoyle personally. But Lindsay Hoyle personally. But you know why. 7 i dont really believe that. Its all about this so called terror threat. This so called terror threat. Well this is what Lindsay Hoyle said initially when he allowed the labour vote. No mention of threats or safety here. Finally, i should tell the house that in my opinion, the operation of Standing Order number 31, which governs the way amendments to the opposition day motions are dealt with, reflects an outdated approach which. An outdated approach which. It was an outdated approach. Just after meeting keir starmer. Not a peep about mp safety. There how can we believe that . He says that he cares for mp safety. When sir david amess was stabbed to death by a rabid islamist , the debate in the islamist, the debate in the commons was all about social media. When mike freer mp said he was quitting because of in part, islamist threats, sir lindsay came out and said mps need to make sure they speak more kindly to each other. What weve got to have is more respect and tolerance for each other and what weve got to do is recognise we may have political differences , but we political differences, but we dont have to use anger, we dont have to use anger, we dont have to use anger, we dont have to use hate because all that is inspire other people as well. If were kinder each as well. If were kinder to each other, i believe the public will be kinder. Be kinder. And now hes bang in trouble. Hes throwing his hands up and saying hes martyr to mps saying hes a martyr to mps safety in the wake of a terror threat. Dont buy it. Sir keir threat. I dont buy it. Sir keir starmer denies this. Sir Lindsay Hoyle, he denies this. But i think the British Public have a right to wonder whether or not the labour speaker cut a grubby deal with the labour leader to save the labour party. Now, as it stands, about 65 mps have said that they have no confidence in hoyle. The british pubuc confidence in hoyle. The British Public clearly do not any more either. Hes public clearly do not any more either. Hes lost public clearly do not any more either. Hes lost the room public clearly do not any more either. Hes lost the room and i think he has to go. But if sir keir starmer , this man of keir starmer, this man of towering integrity and high moral fibre, lent varne Lindsay Hoyle and exerted massive pressure on him, then frankly , pressure on him, then frankly, he has to go as well. But lets get the thoughts of my panel. Weve got telegraph columnist and parliamentary sketch writer madeline grant. Ive also got conservative peer lord shaun bailey and former labour Party Adviser matthew lazer. Madeline, adviser matthew lazer. Madeline, ill start with you on this. Do you think now that were in a situation where essentially sir keir starmer has successfully leant on a speaker here . Oh, well, i mean , certainly oh, well, i mean, certainly he the speaker, acceded to what labour was demanding for sure. I think the real question is how much of it was , as you said in much of it was, as you said in your intro, cutting a grubby deal your intro, cutting a grubby deal. Um that was purely a face saving exercise. As for gaza , saving exercise. As for gaza, um, and how well or was any of it to do with how much of it was to do with the concerns about mp safety, which i dont think we should dismiss . You know, its been speak to often been mps that i speak to often talk about, you know, just the a constant level of harassment, intimidation , um, having cctv intimidation, um, having cctv around their homes, having their properties disturbed. Um, and thats before you even get to the really serious things that have happened in the last few years, you know, mps murdered and so on. So i think obviously this has worked out in a way that helpful for the labour that is helpful for the labour party, ultimately it has party, but ultimately it has blown in their face because blown up in their face because here we are talking about this gaping clearly exists gaping wound that clearly exists within labour party. Within the labour party. And just heads up exactly. And just a heads up a later on in the a little bit later on in the show, on show, ive got andrew percy on who absolutely crystal who makes it absolutely Crystal Clear that clear about the threat that laboun clear about the threat that labour. Sorry that all mps labour. Um, sorry that all mps are facing at the moment from , are facing at the moment from, um, mostly mob. Um, mostly an islamist mob. Robert jenrick on a little Robert Jenrick is on a little bit on. Im not trying to bit later on. Im not trying to diminish the here. Im bit later on. Im not trying to dimisaying,a here. Im bit later on. Im not trying to dimisaying, sean, here. Im bit later on. Im not trying to dimisaying, sean, i here. Im bit later on. Im not trying to dimisaying, sean, i think im bit later on. Im not trying to dimisaying, sean, i think its just saying, sean, i think its rather convenient. And what they wanted the headlines be today wanted the headlines to be today was absolutely the was absolutely not about the fact that 100 labour mps fact that about 100 labour mps were rebel. Shadow were going to rebel. Shadow cabinet would cabinet ministers would have gone labour party would gone that labour party would have gaping hole in it. Have had this gaping hole in it. Well, sorry, but we are well, im sorry, but we are going and that going to talk about it. And that is reality, isnt is the reality, isnt it . A number of to theres a number of things to say. Awful shame that say. Its an awful shame that this happened. And i say for this has happened. And i say for Lindsay Hoyle, because he was this has happened. And i say for lindsrespected because he was this has happened. And i say for lindsrespected becethe he was this has happened. And i say for lindsrespected becethe he \that well respected and the fact that he visit keir he had a visit from keir starmer, it doesnt matter what keir people will starmer, it doesnt matter what keir their people will starmer, it doesnt matter what keir their own people will starmer, it doesnt matter what keir their own mind ple will starmer, it doesnt matter what keir their own mind up; will starmer, it doesnt matter what keir their own mind up andl make their own mind up and i think theyll think that think theyll theyll think that keir starmer on him, because what point visit what was the point of the visit otherwise. People will make otherwise. But people will make their but the real their minds up. But the real shame is lindsay hall is shame here is lindsay hall is now a great amount now under a great amount of pressure. Somebody pressure. But he was somebody everybody pressure. But he was somebody everpoint. He was a great this point. He was a great speaker and think keir starmer speaker and i think keir starmer may him the may have thrown him to the wolves no doubt wolves, because theres no doubt this worked out for the this has worked out for the labour party, which again makes a the a whole thing look sus. And the other want to as other thing i want to say as well, imagine boot was on well, imagine the boot was on the other foot. Could you imagine in the behaviour wed be getting keir starmer and getting out of keir starmer and labour mps when boris labour mps now, when boris prorogued parliament, you would have the had fallen have thought the sun had fallen in. Yet its fine, which is illegal. Yeah, well, well this for mps i this is feeling that way. Youve got to understand this is an undermining of our democracy. An undermining of our democracy. Mhm. This is no you know what else should be illegal. Having from the river the having from the river to the sea projected on the outside. I agree on that. I agree with you on that. I agree with you on that. Youre not welcome this lot in. Yeah. Youre lot threw your arms now youre arms around it and now youre crying theyre crying because theyre outside your we have to your offices. Yeah we have to deal with this stuff. Yeah. And now its happening. I dont think theres any evidence blood on your evidence you have blood on your hands, sir. Lindsay, youll blood lindsay, youll have blood on your you. If you dont your hands if you. If you dont take our this is ridiculous. Yes. Theres. Absolutely. Look, its perfectly normal for party and the chief Party Leaders and the chief whips and see the speaker whips to go and see the speaker before a major vote like this. Its perfectly reasonable. Its perfectly parliamentary for that to happen. Theres no evidence that he that he leapt on him. Theres no evidence that apart from the fact. But what isnt perfectly normal is what lindsay hall did next. Yeah, but lindsay has responsibility for that, because that was lindsays decision. And you know, hes those you know, hes given those reasons. Respect him, we reasons. If we respect him, we must what hes hes must respect what hes what hes said now. I mean, the truth of the this back to the matter was this goes back to the matter was this goes back to the playing politics with an the snp playing politics with an issue too important. You issue that is too important. You say chasm in say theres a gaping chasm in the party. Isnt a the labour party. There isnt a gaping chasm. Whole of the gaping chasm. The whole of the labour last night labour party voted last night for motion that was for the only motion that was passed, which labour passed, which is the labour partys position, which is to call immediate partys position, which is to call for humanitarian ceasefire. Gerrymandered. Was gerrymandered. Thats why it was whether or not thats not whether, well, thats a different question, was. Different question, but it was. That the labour but you say that the labour party partys absolute party isnt the partys absolute unhed party isnt the partys absolute united wasnt united around a cause. It wasnt unhed united around a cause. It wasnt united around a cause. It wasnt united around the snp united around whether the snp put couple words in put an extra couple of words in their versus the labour their motion versus the labour motion, well never know, will we . Because was gerrymandered we . Labour. E was gerrymandered we . Well,r. E was gerrymandered we . Well, r. E might gerrymandered we . Well,r. E might do rymandered we . Well,r. E might do because � ed well, we might do because theres vote snp motion. Now, lets be clear, the snp carried out a very normal parliamentary process, as is their right. If youre watching this from outside, its absolutely ridiculous the way the parliament it reminds ridiculous the way the paithat ent it reminds ridiculous the way the paithat parliament it reminds ridiculous the way the paithat Parliament Needs eminds ridiculous the way the paithat Parliament Needs aninds us that Parliament Needs an overhaul. The fact that you overhaul. The fact that you cannot, the labour cannot, the fact that the labour party put an amendment cannot, the fact that the labour pa|snp put an amendment cannot, the fact that the labour pa|snp , put an amendment cannot, the fact that the labour pa|snp , itth an amendment cannot, the fact that the labour pa|snp , its just| amendment cannot, the fact that the labour pa|snp , its just ridiculousent cannot, the fact that the labour pa|snp , its just ridiculous. |t an snp, its just ridiculous. This is the oldest democracy in the world. It is, and its working wonderfully well. Thats what british thats what the british people sean people think. Sean suit the labour it doesnt suit the labour party. Meant to. Party. Were meant to. Absolutely not. I think no. Absolutely not. I think the partys for the labour partys call for a long reforming parliament. Just think this parliament. Justthink this not i just think that this is not fine what this has fine and dandy. What this has revealed is that there is an islamist mob that the islamist mob that has the ability , through threats and ability, through threats and agitation, that is what the vibe, what were talking about in parliament, and also that we have who say who go have politicians who say who go to the speaker and try to strong arm him into not letting a particular motion be deliberated because they are worried about those threats. That is not we dont even know that even mentioned an mp security. Theres no evidence that he did that may have did that. That may have been entirely makes entirely from lindsay makes even worse that makes it worse because that makes it about the labour least about the labour party, at least if about security, we if it was about security, we could all probably around could all probably come around the labour but the fact that labour party to control party did it to control their headunes party did it to control their headlines worry. Thats not right. Presumably youd welcome an inquiry full inquiry into this, then a full and inquiry into this, then a full ancwell, i dont know what an well, i dont know what an inquiry. I dont know what an inquiry. I dont know what an inquiry be. I dont know inquiry would be. I dont know what inquiry achieve, what an inquiry would achieve, what an inquiry would achieve, what achieve. What it would achieve. Of the getting to the bottom of the truth getting to the bottom of the trutwell, only in that well, the only people in that room were keir lindsay and. So theyre not going to oh, so theyre not going to tell the truth. I absolutely. No, i know absolutely. Theyre already telling the truth. Need an truth. So we dont need an inquiry. Is the truth . The inquiry. What is the truth . The truth exactly said truth is exactly what was said or met him. Keir has or who met with him. Keir has made absolutely clear that he didnt any pressure on the didnt put any pressure on the speaken didnt put any pressure on the speaker. Most important, didnt put any pressure on the spe most most important, didnt put any pressure on the spe most importantost important, didnt put any pressure on the spe most important thing portant, didnt put any pressure on the spe most important thing is rtant, didnt put any pressure on the spe most important thing is the t, didnt put any pressure on the spe rneed mportant thing is the t, didnt put any pressure on the spe rneed to ortant thing is the t, didnt put any pressure on the spe rneed to stop1t thing is the t, didnt put any pressure on the spe rneed to stop playing is the t, snp need to stop playing politics because theyre collapsing in scotland and theyre scotland. Collapsing in scotland and theyre trying scotland. Collapsing in scotland and theyre trying distracttland. Collapsing in scotland and theyre trying distract from collapsing in scotland and they appalling distract from collapsing in scotland and they appalling record act from collapsing in scotland and they appalling record running scotland. They werent they werent playing politics. Were playing politics. They were doing parliamentary duties doing their parliamentary duties in way. Its done. The in a normal way. Its done. The i, i worry for. They were deliberately trying to play politics it. Politics with it. Not true. Thats not true. Thats not true. I worry for lindsay hall now because a very good because hes been a very good speaker now. But he is speaker up to now. But he is under enormous pressure and unfortunately, keir starmer has manoeuvred him to a point where one have feel one of them will have to feel the pressure. Bet you, the pressure. And i bet you, keir what it reminds us keir starmer, what it reminds us is we need an election now, but your minister your Prime Minister is too scared to call one. Think that labour i dont think that labour have helped lindsay have actually helped lindsay hall today either. Lucy powell was was up against hall today either. Lucy powell was morden was up against hall today either. Lucy powell was morden earlier. Against hall today either. Lucy powell was morden earlier. She nst hall today either. Lucy powell was morden earlier. She made penny morden earlier. She made a point of sort of basically saying see here saying nothing to see here folks, no big deal. Also, we love lindsay and were love lindsay hall and were going she going to stand by him. She couldnt been kind couldnt have been more kind of protective proprietorial. Couldnt have been more kind of prot already. Do you think that theres a chance that starmer is just chance that keir starmer is just throwing him under the bus here . No, hes going hes going throwing him under the bus here . Remaines going hes going throwing him under the bus here . Remain asgoing hes going throwing him under the bus here . Remain as speaker hes going throwing him under the bus here . Remain as speaker and going throwing him under the bus here . Remain as speaker and gwill to remain as speaker and it will be parliament. We be need a new parliament. We need election now we need an election now and then we can a speaker. And can elect a new speaker. And lindsay the candidate, lindsay will be the candidate, but he remains a speaker. Have its because mps have warm feelings because he has feelings to him, because he has been largely good. The problem feelings to him, because he has been listarmer od. The problem feelings to him, because he has been listarmer and the problem feelings to him, because he has been listarmer and the problem feelings to him, because he has been listarmer and the labour] is keir starmer and the labour party put him in an party have put him in an unbelievably difficult position, and. A number of mps and rightly so. A number of mps are the tories. Are the tories. If you, when the tories are going to vote snp going to vote for an snp speaken going to vote for an snp speaker, no, the snp are going to vote for tory speaker, no. So youre end up with him. Youre going to end up with him. Its ridiculous. Its just ridiculous. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. A really unfair thats a really unfair reading thats a really unfair r know, its the record. Okay. Know, its on the record. Okay. Commons clerk is now so chief commons clerk is now wrong. That youre saying . Think if youre looking no, i think if youre looking at outside, okay, at this from outside, okay, millions people the millions of people in the country wanted millions of people wanted proper people wanted a proper labour, wanted the labour party to be able vote for a motion on an able to vote for a motion on an important issue like gaza, which able to vote for a motion on an imporupt issue like gaza, which able to vote for a motion on an imporup the. Ue like gaza, which able to vote for a motion on an imporup the position, aza, which able to vote for a motion on an imporup the position, aza, w is h sums up the position, which is frankly majority of frankly the majority position of the padraig, i will you padraig, i will tell you exactly what looks like. It exactly what it looks like. It looks a potential grubby exactly what it looks like. It lookswas a potential grubby exactly what it looks like. It lookswas done tential grubby exactly what it looks like. It lookswas done to 1tial grubby exactly what it looks like. It lookswas done to the grubby exactly what it looks like. It lookswas done to the labour deal was done to the labour party, did not have to come to terms fact that the terms with the fact that the ideology helped to ideology that theyd helped to foster this country for foster in this country for a very long time about very long time was about to come, on the back. Very long time was about to conwe on the back. Very long time was about to conwe havent on the back. Very long time was about to conwe havent been on the back. Very long time was about to conwe havent been inn the back. Very long time was about to conwe havent been in poweriack. Very long time was about to conwe havent been in power for;. We havent been in power for 13 years. Patrick sadly. Anyway lively start okay. Anyway lively start to the time is ticking on the show. 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But up next, on our democracy. But up next, as sir Lindsay Hoyle caves to extremists over the Gaza Ceasefire debate, is democracy dead . Former Mep Patrick Oflynn dead . Former Mep Patrick Oflynn goes head to head with political commentator james goes head to head with political commentatorjames mathewson. Commentator james mathewson. This is Patrick Christys tonight. Dont miss a second. Sunday mornings from 930 on. Gb news. Well, very shortly. Tory mp well, very shortly. Tory mp andrew percy will be on to reveal some absolutely staggering home truths about the impact of mob rule on our democracy. But right now, its democracy. But right now, its time for the head to head. And time for the head to head. And after the utter farce in the commons yesterday, speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle today stood firm in the face of calls for him to resign. Despite a mounting list of mps backing a motion of no confidence in him. So this was the moment that sir lindsay explained why he scuppered the gaza insisting Gaza Ceasefire debate, insisting he to protect mps he did it to protect mps from extremists who would have targeted labour mps. Targeted labour mps. I had serious meetings yesterday with the police on the issues and threats to politicians , threats, heading to politicians, threats, heading to an election and i do not want anything to happen again. So yes anything to happen again. So yes , i will apologise. I always , i will apologise. I always will when i make a mistake. Yes, not just labour mps, all mps anyway. Whether hoyle behaved like he did because he wanted to save sir Keir Starmers bacon or because he genuinely feared for mps safety , genuinely feared for mps safety, either reality leaves our democracy in tatters. So tonight i am asking sir Lindsay Hoyle caves to extremists over the Gaza Ceasefire debate. Is democracy dead . Doing battle on democracy dead . Doing battle on this now is political commentator former Mep Patrick Oflynn and former labour spokesman James Matthews. And shapps. Thank you very much. Great to have you on the show. Patrick. Is democracy dead . I would certainly its i would certainly say its been high been moved to the high dependency ward of of the dependency ward of the of the democrat hospital. Its not in good shape whatsoever. I think , good shape whatsoever. I think, oddly enough, Lindsay Hoyle has broken dennis healeys rule of politics, which is when youre in a hole, stop digging because , in a hole, stop digging because, as you suggested, hes come out with a new pretext. Now for why he made this ruling. With a new pretext. Now for why he made this ruling. The he made this ruling. The security and the police warnings. And that will make people think, hang on a minute. Margaret thatcher was almost murdered by the ira. The very next morning, she stood up at the conservative Party Conference and said, business as usual, you know, in britain we dont , uh, kowtow to threats dont, uh, kowtow to threats because that incentivises further threats. And under Lindsay Hoyles own explanation, thats what hes done. And i think also the leader of the labour party who aspires to be the next Prime Minister, almost certainly will be the next Prime Minister by the end of this yeah minister by the end of this year. I think, you know, he hasnt seen the wood for the trees here. He thinks , you know, trees here. He thinks, you know, uh, you know, lean on the speaken uh, you know, lean on the speaker. So i dont have headunes speaker. So i dont have headlines about the labour party split, but a bigger thing for the British Public is does this man has have what it takes to lead our democracy . And he again , under his his own account of the labour party, its kowtowing to terrorists, radicals and extremists. And thats not what democracy is meant to be about. James come back to that. James come back to that. Yeah. Yeah. Terrorists and radicals. Terrorists and radicals. I mean, i wanted keir starmer to back position of a ceasefire. Keir starmer has backed the position of a ceasefire. So maybe a terrorist or a radical course. It doesnt. Its absolute nonsense to call people who want to see a ceasefire, which now is a huge amount of people in parliament and out of parliament who want to see a ceasefire, want that position to be adopted with actual, you know , understandable policy positions and a route to peace where we dont see children on either side. James just out of interest, if you know james. Sorry, just ive got to put this back to you then if youre applying that logic, then why was it so vital that the Labour Amendment was mentioned yesterday . Have just yesterday . You could have just voted with the snp. Think i believe that yeah, i think i believe that the labour party, you know, will always contest and have the right bigger opposition always contest and have the right and bigger opposition always contest and have the right and iyouar opposition always contest and have the right and iyou know osition always contest and have the right and iyou know ,sition always contest and have the right and iyou know , pointed party and as you know, pointed out right there previously that the labour party is going to be probably likely in probably in most likely form in the government. Its the probably in most likely form in the who,iovernment. Its the probably in most likely form in the who, you nment. Its the probably in most likely form in the who, you knowt. Its the probably in most likely form in the who, you know , its the probably in most likely form in the who, you know , a s the probably in most likely form in the who, you know , a minority snp who, you know, a Minority Party who are deciding to play politics with this and lets be honest, lets be honest how this panned out yesterday, it wasnt scuppered in scuppered by Lindsay Hoyle in its. It could have gone its entirety. It could have gone ahead. We could have seen democracy action and wed be democracy in action and wed be having the opposite conversation what now. But the what were having now. But the snp decided to be children about it and decide that if their name wasnt the successful name on the on the ceasefire, uh, amendment that went through, that, they wouldnt be playing ball. Okay. Patrick okay. Patrick well, look, i think this phrase that labours trotting out with playing politics, its actually doing politics like all parties quotes play politics when they test the robustness and scrutinise the other Political Parties. And both the snp on one flank, theyre very much pro palestine flank and the conservative government on the other, suspected that , you know, other, suspected that, you know, labour under scrutiny , would labour under scrutiny, would fall apart here. So the official account , this is the key thing. Account, this is the key thing. The official account of why the procedures of the commons were changed is because labour mps were apparently were were getting threats. Now thats the message that our democracy doesnt stand up to terrorism. I see keir starmer as greatly culpable in this. Hes denied that he personally uttered any, any kind of big threat or leaning on the speaker. He didnt say that. None of his mps didnt say that. None of his mps did that. I think , you know, did that. I think, you know, Lindsay Hoyle almost certainly should resign. But i think the bigger issue here is , is keir bigger issue here is, is keir starmer fit to be Prime Minister of, you know, one of the great democracies of the world. And i think hes proved himself unfit. So james, look, were about to in a few time to hear in a few minutes time from an mp who says that fellow mps are now not voting the way that they want to vote on things because they are afraid of the mob. That is not democracy, is it . N0 mob. That is not democracy, is it . No no, but mob. That is not democracy, is it . No no, but i mob. That is not democracy, is it . No no, but i dont believe it . No no, but i dont believe its true. I just dont believe its true. I think its true. Labour mps who ive spoken to, i havent spoken to a single mp who i know, several of whom have spoken today, whove spoken to today, whove said that they intimidated to. That they felt intimidated to. That would change their opinion on stuff. Arent, know on stuff. These arent, you know , do we think these , i mean, who do we think these people these are people who people are . These are people who face threats a regular basis, face threats on a regular basis, such the nature of our toxic such as the nature of our toxic debate around many things in politics face threats on politics who face threats on a regular basis for their opinions, then regardless of opinions, and then regardless of vote on them anyway, theyre in parliament because have parliament because they have political opinions and a political opinions and a political conscience , and they political conscience, and they stick with that normally regard less think that less of this to think that people being pushed people are being pushed around back happened back and forth. Whats happened is weve had very successful protests, very successful outrage from across the country and across the world as well to whats happening to Palestinian People in gaza. Would you describe mike freers office being allegedly firebombed as a successful protest , or what went on protest, or what went on outside . Tobias ellwood thats nothing to do with the house or some Death Threats that have been nothing to been given, because nothing to do it, nothing to do with do with it, nothing to do with the legitimate protest. There. The disgusting threats that our elected officials face every single day, regardless of what the. So it is true that they are struggling to deal with the fact that they are. Course, that they are. Of course, theyre what saying , theyre voting. What im saying, i that elected i dont believe that elected officials then say , oh, i must officials then say, oh, i must vote this way because of that, because i know so many who do. Just the opposite actually hardens their resolve and actually these disgusting threats, you know , of violence threats, you know, of violence against our mps. You know, two of whom we have their lives of whom we have lost their lives to kind of threats, you to those kind of threats, you know, real threat to know, is the real threat to democracy, not peaceful protest that in a wider that result in a wider discussion in the media that then ultimately results in people saying , you know what it people saying, you know what it is actually, weve seen enough children murdered dont children murdered and we dont want anymore. So we want to see that anymore. So we want to see that anymore. So we want ceasefire. Want to see that anymore. So we warokay,iasefire. Want to see that anymore. So we warokay, patrick, final word. Okay, patrick, final word. Okay, patrick, final word. I the british yeah. I think the british people are watching this and theyre remembering theres a school batley whos School Teacher from batley whos had in hiding for three had to be in hiding for three years. There was autistic boy years. There was an autistic boy in near wakefield whose in a school near wakefield whose mother had to go and mother basically had to go and beg facts were to be beg for no facts were to be imposed on him. And the idea imposed on him. And the idea that the Political Class, who should be leading the defence of our democracy , is somehow going our democracy, is somehow going to be feather bedded and protected in ways that normal people are, are not normal. People are, are not normal. People have to face the society that our Political Class has presided over and created. And i presided over and created. And i think that is a very, very troubling message for our democracy. And i think lindsay democracy. And i think Lindsay Hoyle and keir starmer have come out of this week not looking you know, equal to the tasks that they aspire to fill. All right. Look, both of you, i think for your case valiantly there. So thank you very very much. As former Mep Patrick Oflynn and former labour spokesman James Matthews , so do you agree matthews said, so do you agree with the Lindsay Hoyle caves with the sir Lindsay Hoyle caves to over the gaza to extremists over the Gaza Ceasefire debate . Is democracy dead . Nana x says democracy dead . Nana on x says democracy has been dead for a long time now. Its time we accept it. A bit defeatist that nona, i think good run on x says democracy isnt dead yet. We just need real politicians with a moral compass courage who really compass and courage who really know what democracy means and who committed to serving the who are committed to serving the people this once great people of this once great nation. Says. We dont nation. Jan says. We dont really democracy. Really have democracy. If we did, the boats would be stopped. Wed the echr and wed be out of the echr and brexit would be complete. Look, your 90 you your verdict is in 90 of you agree that democracy is now dead after sir Lindsay Hoyle caved to extremists over gaza, 10 of you disagree and say that it isnt. Look, up as a tory mp look, coming up as a tory mp finds migration is making the housing crisis worse with 67 of privately rented households in london headed by someone born abroad should British Homes be prioritised for british people . But no nonsense former minister Ann Widdecombe has her say on that, and of course she weighs in on the Lindsay Hoyle issue. But up next, extraordinary interview. This a backbench mp today slammed political extremism that has wormed its way into westminster. Way into westminster. For months ive been standing up here talking about the people on our streets demanding death to jews, demanding jihad , to jews, demanding jihad, demanding intifadas. I caught up with andrew percy earlier on. He has an astonishingly stark warning for the future of democracy in britain and actually reveals some home truths that maybe would have been quite enlightening during that last discussion as well, about the impact fact that mob is impact fact that the mob is having our politicians. Hes having on our politicians. Hes up patrick up next. This is Patrick Christys tonight. Only on monday to thursday from 6 00 till 930. Well, coming up, no nonsense former minister Ann Widdecombe on the impact that migration is having on britains housing crisis. But first, the commons was left reeling today as jewish mp andrew percy gave a moving speech reminding us of the fear that british jews are currently living under a months. Ive been standing up here talking about the people on our streets demanding death to jews , streets demanding death to jews, demanding jihad, demanding intifada orders as the police stand by and allow that to happen. Last night, a genocidal call for from the river to the sea, palestine will be free was projected onto this building. That that message says no jew is welcome in the state of israel or in that land. Or in that land. And here is the projection that percy mentioned. If youre watching us on tv or online lighting up the home of british democracy with the infamous phrase from the river to the sea, let remind you that since hamass invasion of israel back in october, anti semitic abuse has risen a shocking 589. Earlier today , i caught up with earlier today, i caught up with andrew percy himself to find out what parliament can do to stand up to extreme ism. The parliament is caved in to islamist extremism , i think to islamist extremism, i think to a certain extent, yes , and also to certain extent, yes, and also to hard left. Hard left extremism. So there are members of the house of commons at the moment who have said me theyre not who have said to me theyre not prepared to vote as would prepared to vote as they would like issue. And like to on this issue. And because they fear the retribution, they feel the retaliation and they fear the threats that coming in threats that are coming in to them. Cant have them. And we cant have a situation where democracy, situation where in a democracy, democratically elected , you democratically elected, you know, representatives are not able to vote they wish for able to vote as they wish for fear of violence. I mean, its completely unacceptable. So, completely unacceptable. So, yes, we caved. You made an yes, we have caved. You made an incredibly strong point in the house of commons earlier today. Whether or i just wonder whether or not its to that the jewish its fair to say that the Jewish Community of the community is kind of like the canary coal a little canary in the coal mine a little bit, actually, at the moment canary in the coal mine a little bit, canaries at the moment canary in the coal mine a little bit, canaries gasping|oment canary in the coal mine a little bit, canaries gasping for ent canary in the coal mine a little bit, canaries gasping for air, that canaries gasping for air, trying to warn us about the problems that are facing us. True, yeah, i mean, that is true, right . Mean, know , the right . I mean, you know, the problem we allow this problem is if we allow this behaviour here continue, its behaviour here to continue, its not going this not just going to be on this issue, itll the next issue issue, itll be the next issue and itll be another issue. Itll be different who itll be a Different Group who will targeted. Will be targeted. Do you think sir keir starmer was from was maybe safe from being confronted reality of confronted by the reality of what his own ideology has created last night, what created last night, with what lindsay well i think Lindsay Hoyle did . Well i think it look, it was incredibly it was look, it was incredibly unhelpful it was look, it was incredibly uniwhatl did yesterday. It put what he did yesterday. It put conservative particular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra ative particular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra risk particular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra risk. Particular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra risk. So particular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra risk. So we particular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra risk. So we were ular, what he did yesterday. It put co extra risk. So we were told at extra risk. So we were told it to protect , um, you know, it was to protect, um, you know, Members Parliament safety. Members of parliament safety. But it appears that the safety of some mps more important of some mps is more important than because it did of some mps is more important tharthrow because it did of some mps is more important tharthrow us ecause it did of some mps is more important tharthrow us on use it did of some mps is more important tharthrow us on the it did of some mps is more important tharthrow us on the government was throw us on the government benches completely the benches completely under the bus. Think, sir keir bus. And i think, sir keir starmer reflect that. Starmer should reflect on that. But should also reflect on but he should also reflect on the fact what some of his the fact that what some of his mps saying this mps have been saying on this subject, reflect about subject, he should reflect about how mps have been how some of his mps have been attending some of these marches, speaking marches where speaking at these marches where there is open hate and that there is open jew hate and that and members are still and those members are still sitting on his benches. Sitting there on his benches. Mhm. Yeah. And for you personally. Yeah. How bad is personally. Yeah. How bad is this. Yeah. What kind of this. Yeah. What kind of examples of, of you got of yourself and others who are facing up to this now. I mean the problem you have on this issue is lots of us dont like to talk about what what comes our way. Because when you about of it you talk about it, more of it comes your way. But you know, my stuff i get has because ive been very vocal you been very vocal on this. You know, i get called a zionist. I get i leave the get told i should leave the country, i bags, people country, i pack my bags, people telling i should be dragged telling me i should be dragged into the streets and flogged. Uh, know, somebody uh, you know, somebody telling me children, me i dont have any children, but hope but telling me that they hope that things happen to that their bad things happen to my you know, that that their bad things happen to my other you know, that that their bad things happen to my other acts you know, that that their bad things happen to my other acts of you know, that that their bad things happen to my other acts of violence iv, that and other acts of violence should be committed. And thats happening and mps happening to mps. And some mps have worse than, have had it even worse than, than than i have lots of than than than i have lots of particularly female mps get it particularly female mps get it particularly. And you particularly badly. And you know, its but its grim stuff and, you know, its and that is as i say, its affecting how people perform their duties as members of parliament and democracy cannot sustain this. You know , if wed had a vote you know, if wed had a vote yesterday , it wouldnt actually yesterday, it wouldnt actually have been reflective of the will of the house of commons because people would have stayed away from some from the vote or in some cases voted against own personal voted against their own personal views consciences. Just to voted against their own personal vievthese consciences. Just to voted against their own personal vievthese peopleznces. Just to voted against their own personal vievthese people offes. Just to voted against their own personal vievthese people off their;t to get these people off their backs. Thats insane. Its completely and utterly mad. But weve known about it and its been happening for a while now, and only going to and its only going to get worse. And seeing it worse. And were seeing it across, know, western across, you know, western democracies. This is democracies. This is inconsistent with democracy. The behaviour were seeing it. But these people are given succour, right. Because when theyre allowed week after week to take right. Because when theyre al|therd week after week to take right. Because when theyre al|the streets after week to take right. Because when theyre al|the streets of ter week to take right. Because when theyre al|the streets of london, to take right. Because when theyre al|the streets of london, and ake to the streets of london, and despite the fact that week after week , members the jewish week, members of the Jewish Community point out community and others point out the are being they the signs that are being they point intifada is point out that intifada is continued to be allowed. You know, forjihad , continued to be allowed. You know, for jihad , or know, the calls for jihad, or they call for people to open support houthis. Is support for the houthis. This is this, emboldens these this, you know, emboldens these people then to take social people to then to take social media, to their , uh, email media, to their, uh, email accounts, to, to send us all sorts of abuse because they see its acceptable. All so its not being stopped. Its being stopped. Of course, its only worse. I was only going to get worse. I was going to say, oh, do you think this be a watershed moment . But how many watershed moments know, moments can we have . You know, i mean, amess is the obvious mean, david amess is the obvious example. Recently example. Mike freer recently again. Both of again. And, you know, both of those up being those things ended up being contorted about online contorted to be about online hate. And as opposed to real hate. And as opposed to the real issue. Yeah well, this the problem well, this is the problem that know, weve had lots of that you know, weve had lots of warnings about this. Weve warnings about about this. Weve seen other issues where seen this on other issues where weve, know, had , you know, weve, you know, had, you know, youve had headteachers whove had to hiding. Youve had to go into hiding. Youve had to go into hiding. Youve had you know, schools targeted, um , you know, and as i say, its um, you know, and as i say, its this strange of, of this strange mix of, of, of individuals and ideologies, um , individuals and ideologies, um, and you know, we know its happening and everybody calls it out. And this is my frustration in commons we all in the commons today. We can all keep its not acceptable. Keep saying its not acceptable. We all keep saying, oh, we can all keep saying, oh, isnt we mustnt isnt it awful . And we mustnt allow to happen. But the allow this to happen. But at the end mps have to go end of the day, mps have to go home theyre in london and home or theyre in london and they their families at they leave their families at home and have to go to home and they have to go to their houses where they are unprotected know, dont unprotected. You know, we dont have police on our have Police Officers on our front doors. And you have to think getting think as youre getting into your night , think as youre getting into your night, its easy to your bed at night, its easy to figure out where an lives. Your bed at night, its easy to figu know where an lives. Your bed at night, its easy to figu know whats an lives. Your bed at night, its easy to figu know whats going lives. Your bed at night, its easy to figu know whats going to ves. Your bed at night, its easy to figu know whats going to happen you know whats going to happen to me. Lindsay hoyle has been sir Lindsay Hoyle has been very vocal as he was last very vocal today, as he was last night well, saying, look, he night as well, saying, look, he felt had the best felt as though he had the best intentions for mps and that he feared threats. Okay. So feared threats. Okay. So realistically , what was he realistically, what was he supposed to have done . You know, if hes been told hell have blood on his hands here, what should he have done . Do you think so . I think look, i like lindsay. Lindsays been personally very good me over the years, and good to me over the years, and i genuinely cares about genuinely believe he cares about the know believes and the well, i know he believes and cares about the welfare of members of parliament. And he doubtless. Mean , you know, doubtless. I mean, you know, does care about the threats that labour mps have faced, just as all of us have faced , um, what all of us have faced, um, what was was this these was unacceptable was this these reports of pressure being put on him, and its helped to get keir starmer out of a particular bind with own but as ive with his own party. But as ive said , im sure even we take said, im sure even if we take those threats of whether, you know, have a job or not in know, hed have a job or not in the future out of it, even if the future out of it, even if the intention protect the intention was to protect members sadly the members of parliament. Sadly the decision through other members of parliament completely under the we currently have the bus, we currently have members of Parliament Voting against their own free will because they are scared from a radical mob. Yeah, we potentially have the leader of the opposition exerting pressure onto the speaker of the house of commons in order to try to mask certain divisions within his own party and this problem you think is going to get worse before it gets better . Yes. Gets better . Yes. I dont see how it doesnt, because, you know, and thats exactly whats happening. You exactly whats happening. You have parliament who have members of parliament who wouldnt up to wouldnt have turned up to the vote yesterday purely because they scared of what would they were scared of what would happenif they were scared of what would happen if they voted against particular motion and amendments that were down. I mean , that were down. I mean, democracy cant survive that. We democracy cant survive that. We cannot survive that. And you know, were all condemning it. And everybodys saying its wrong, actually to wrong, but actually we have to do something prevent more do something to prevent it. More than words. Than words. Well, you very much. To well, thank you very much. To andrew percy mp , who was andrew percy mp, who was incredibly brave for speaking out about all of this in such frank terms. Its important to say , obviously, that sir keir say, obviously, that sir keir starmer and Lindsay Hoyle both deny the idea that there was any kind of deal that took place, or that leaning on that there was any leaning on anybody coming up as prevent anybody but coming up as prevent whistleblowers, sir William Shawcross that not enough shawcross says that not enough is being done to tackle islamist extremism. Its Political Correctness helping terrorists slip the net. Will slip through the net. I will tackle that at 10 pm. As well as speaking with former immigration minister Robert Jenrick , whos been incredibly jenrick, whos been incredibly vocal about this today in the house of commons. But next, with new showing that 67 of new Research Showing that 67 of privately rented homes in london are born are headed by somebody born overseas , is migration overseas, is migration worsening . Our housing crisis . And should the speaker of the commons, Lindsay Hoyle, resign . Commons, Lindsay Hoyle, resign . Obviously weve to ask obviously weve got to ask former minister ann former tory minister Ann Widdecombe about that. She former tory minister ann widdeherrbe about that. She former tory minister ann widdeher unfiltered ut that. She former tory minister ann widdeher unfiltered take|at. She former tory minister ann widdeher unfiltered take afterhe gives her unfiltered take after this very , very short break. This very, very short break. Dont miss a sukh welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight. Were only on gb news tonight. Were only on gb news now. Coming up, its Political Correctness helping terrorists slip through the net. But first a astonishing analysis by former levelling up minister and tory mp neil obrien has revealed that migration has exacerbated the uks housing crisis, especially in london, where a whopping 67 of privately rented houses were headed up by someone born overseas. But this is very much not simply a london issue. Its happening everywhere. Theres analysis also revealed that the number of migrants arriving in the capital since 2011 far outstripped the 2011 has far outstripped the number of new homes being built. It after government it comes after the government announced plans last month to prioritise British Homes for british people. Well, im joined british people. Well, im joined now by former conservative minister widdecombe. Now by former conservative ministyou widdecombe. Now by former conservative ministyou very iddecombe. Now by former conservative ministyou very muchimbe. Now by former conservative ministyou very much. 1be. Now by former conservative ministyou very much. Well, it is thank you very much. Well, it is migration to blame for the housing crisis , do you think . Housing crisis, do you think . Well look, i mean, it stands to , well look, i mean, it stands to, to reason that if you have a huge surge in the population , huge surge in the population, which is what you get when you get extensive migration, then its going to put a strain on the infrastructure and not only on housing. Its going to put strain on its going to put a strain on Education Health services , education and health services, transport, to transport, anything you care to mention. Uh, because there is mention. Uh, because there is more demand than there is supply. So yes , of course supply. So yes, of course migration is contributing to the housing crisis. I mean , i cant housing crisis. I mean, i cant see that any reasonable person could claim otherwise. Okay. Could claim otherwise. Okay. So look what needs to be done about it because we are not going to build the amount of homes that we need to cope with the growth that homes that we need to cope with the about growth that homes that we need to cope with the about to growth that homes that we need to cope with the about to see. Growth that homes that we need to cope with the about to see. And wth that homes that we need to cope with the about to see. And if h that homes that we need to cope with the about to see. And if itthat homes that we need to cope with the about to see. And if it isat were about to see. And if it is the case that 67 of homes, certainly around the london area rental sector are now going to people who were born overseas. I people who were born overseas. I mean, do we have to have some kind of law genuinely where landlords have to actually prioritise british tenants . I think thats too far down the line. Line. Uh, you know, what weve got to do is control migration in the first place, not say that when weve got out of control migration, then it will deal. What about it . And what should we do about it . And should we reserve this for home grown whatever grown britain or whatever that that thats dodging issue that thats dodging the issue and the that is really and the issue that is really significant and has been significant and has been significant now for years. Its nothing new is that the government and indeed successive governments have not managed to control migration, be it in legal or be it legal. Control migration, be it in legal or be it legal. And that legal or be it legal. And that is what is causing problems. So thats what youve got to tackle , not ask yourself what you do when its already happened. Um and presumably as well it is now ramping up rental prices. Ramping up rental prices. And this is happening everywhere. Its happening in manchester, in birmingham, in liverpool, single major manchester, in birmingham, in liverokay. Single major manchester, in birmingham, in liverokay. Its single major manchester, in birmingham, in liverokay. Its not single major manchester, in birmingham, in liverokay. Its not just le major manchester, in birmingham, in liverokay. Its not just a major city. Okay. Its not just a london thing. This where because of demand, massively outstripping supply, we are now seeing people having to pay way over the odds and i just feel like that sucks the aspiration out of people, doesnt it . Well it certainly can do that. Yes. And particularly given, you know, that its very difficult at the moment to afford buy, uh, you know, you afford to buy, uh, you know, you look to rent, uh, certainly to tide you over until you can afford to maybe for even afford to buy, maybe for even longer than that. And, of longer tum than that. And, of course, mean, any student of course, i mean, any student of economics , uh, in the economics will learn, uh, in the first week of their course , uh, first week of their course, uh, that demand and supply by, um, are what determines the market. And if there is too little supply and too much demand, of course, prices go up because theres no other way of regulating thing. I just wonder how much data people are going to need, whether gps, whether its whether its gps, whether its housing, anything housing, whether its anything else before they to wake else before they start to wake up. Seriously they just up. Seriously before they just start wake up to but and start to wake up to it. But and can you a bit about can i ask you a bit about speaker Lindsay Hoyle . Im speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle . Im very get your views on very keen to get your views on this. I was trying predict this. I was trying to predict earlier i think earlier on how i think youre going question. Going to answer this question. Im 100 sure. Do you think im not 100 sure. Do you think he to go . No i think it he has to go . No i think it would be wrong several levels. The first is, uh, you know, we have a very chaotic, you know , anything goes wrong. Sunak. And immediately, you know, people are asking sunak people like you are asking sunak have go. Uh, that doesnt have to go. Uh, that doesnt matter so much. But the fact is that are then saying , you that mps are then saying, you know, does sunak have to go now . Know, does sunak have to go now . Somethings gone badly wrong for the and and the speaker. And it has. And everybodys saying, oh , well, everybodys saying, oh, well, the that get of the answer to that is get rid of the answer to that is get rid of the of course it isnt. The speaker. Of course it isnt. Everybody should calm down. I think he made an error of judgement, but its one that i can understand , and i can can understand, and i can understand where he was coming from. It was an error of judgement. He has apologised. He has offered another debate , uh, has offered another debate, uh, on the palestinians or on gaza. Uh, and uh, you know, to those who say what are you trying to get, do you think, do you think and it might have been borne out of undue pressure by the labour party, though. Do you think thats thats what lot of people my inbox do you think thats thats whesaying of people my inbox do you think thats thats whesaying of well . E my inbox are saying as well . Suspect so , but all i suspect so, but like all the your inbox , i the people in your inbox, i dont know. So i suspect so. But he it. Starmer who would he denies it. Starmer who would have been exerting the pressure , have been exerting the pressure, denies its very denies it. So its very difficult to see, uh, where you can take that. I mean, i, i understand and to a certain extent it is defensible to say that you do go against precedent if youve got extraordinary circumstances. You had a very circumstances. You had a very Serious International situation. Serious international situation. Why should you not let both government and official opposition have their say . And i have also to say that, you know, the protesting mps contributed to their own misfortune. They walked out , they didnt stay. Walked out, they didnt stay. And vote down amendments. They walked out. Now, you know that that nobody anywhere. And its part of the utterly childish , part of the utterly childish, irresponsible nature of our current parliament. Yeah, well , current parliament. Yeah, well, i current parliament. Yeah, well , i agree with yeah, well, i agree with a heck of a lot of what youve just said there, although potentially i am slightly more enrage than you but there enrage than you are, but there we was a former we go. Look, i was a former conservative minister and whitaker coming up, whitaker now, look, coming up, hows the speaker, sir . Lindsay hoyle fall guy hoyle made himself the fall guy for starmers political mess. Former Party Minister former labour Party Minister bill rammell joins me. But now prevent whistleblowers. Sir William Shawcross warns us that we to tackle we need to do more to tackle islamist extremism. Have islamist extremism. I have the man that about this in man that spoke about this in parliament earlier, former immigration minister Robert Jenrick. Its not to be. Missed. Jenrick. Its not to be. Missed. That warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers sponsors of whether on. Gb news. Whether on. Gb news. Good evening. Welcome to your latest weather update with me, annie, from the met office. A mixture of sunshine and showers for many of us on friday. There is a risk of hail and thunder, though, feel though, and it will feel a little bit cooler than of late. 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Well be fairly chilly though, and many areas will see a dry rest of the day as well, though some Northern Areas could see some Northern Areas could see some showers lingering. Well some showers lingering. Well see some more persistent rain move sunday, move into the south on sunday, but Northern Areas will get but many Northern Areas will get away fairly dry weekend. Away with a fairly dry weekend. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers spot of weather up. Boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news as well well. Its 10 pm. Im patrick well. Its 10 pm. Im Patrick Christys you reap what you sow and i do not want anything to happen again. So yes , i will apologise and so yes, i will apologise and call it what it is. Call it what it is. And now were allowing islamist extremists to intimidate british members of parliament. Robert jenrick former immigration minister is live on this show shortly. Plus i can categorically tell you that i did not threaten the speaker in any way whatsoever. Man of any way whatsoever. Man of integrity and honour. Hes thrown Lindsay Hoyle under the bus, hasnt he . All of tomorrows newspaper front pages for you tonight with star telegraph columnist madeline grant , tory peer lord shaun grant, tory peer lord shaun bailey ex labour advisor bailey and ex labour advisor matthew laws. And yes, weve got matthew laws. And yes, weve got this two, three, two one ignition and lift off. We go to the moon. We go to the moon. Get ready britain here we go. Islamist extremism is a cancer , islamist extremism is a cancer, and too many politicians are cowards. Next. Cowards. Next. The top story from the gb newsroom tonight. The Prime Minister says hes very concerned about the Commons Speakers handling of the Gaza Ceasefire debate yesterday day. It comes after dozens of mps walked out of Parliament Last evening as the three main Political Parties sought to outmanoeuvre one another over the vote. Sir Lindsay Hoyle has the vote. Sir Lindsay Hoyle has reiterated a fulsome apology for allowing both the government and Labour Amendments to be debated. Labour amendments to be debated. Now 67 mps have so far today signed a motion of no confidence in sir Lindsay Hoyle, calling for him to step down. That includes more than half of the mps that are in the Scottish National party, with snp, westminster leader Stephen Flynn telling the speaker his position is now untenable. Sir keir starmer said today the speaker did the right thing by selecting labours amendment in the debate, but he denies threatening him or influencing him in any decision that was made. And despite the arguments made. 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Here in the uk of 2017. For the very latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Gb news. Com slash alerts. This should be the turning point against islamist extremism i i i had serious meetings yesterday with the police on the issues and threats to politicians, threats , heading to politicians, threats, heading to an election , and i do not want an election, and i do not want anything to happen again. So yes anything to happen again. So yes , i will apologise. I always will when i make a mistake. That is an open admission that the threat of terrorism is now actually impacting our democracy. Im actually quite democracy. Im actually quite offended by what Lindsay Hoyle said. He said that hes looking said. He said that hes looking after the safety of members of the house of commons. They are supposed to be looking after our safety and they havent. Why have we got these bollards everywhere by the pavement on busy pedestrian hotspots . Is it for careless mormon drivers . Why are we being told to look over our shoulders at Christmas Markets . Is it those pesky jehovahs witnesses . Isnt it . Jehovahs witnesses . Isnt it . Do you remember that time when an autistic child scuffed a copy of and his mother had of the bible and his mother had to go to the local church with two Police Officers to beg for forgiveness from a load of enraged seven enraged anglicans . No seven seven borough market. The Manchester Arena bombing fishmongers hall, Westminster Bridge we had to live with this while our politicians banged on about being kind and inclusive and calling anyone who disagreed with them far right. We have with them far right. We have been at the coalface and the Jewish Community is the canary in the coal mine, and that canary is currently gasping for air and desperately trying to tell us that things are dangerously of control. This dangerously out of control. This is what former home secretary Suella Braverman has written in the tonight. This is the telegraph tonight. This is just is longer just landed. This is no longer the country. I knew the great country. I knew islamists are bullying britain into submission this isnt just about colleagues in about my colleagues in parliament. Our values and freedoms attack in all freedoms are under attack in all walks of life. Or finally, the walks of life. Or finally, the penny starting to drop among walks of life. Or finally, the pennyparliamentariansip among walks of life. Or finally, the pennyparliamentarians asimong walks of life. Or finally, the pennyparliamentarians as wellg walks of life. Or finally, the pennyparliamentarians as well. Other parliamentarians as well. Plus an investigation into prevent our terror watchdog has revealed what even Stevie Wonder can see. We have not dealt with islamist extremism. We are not doing enough to deal with it. Now we have focussed too heavily on the far right, as bad as that is, and i want to make very is, and i want to make that very clear gets my clear before anybody gets on my back over this far right extremism terrible also extremism is terrible and also needs stamped out. M15 needs to be stamped out. M15 data shows that 75 of its caseload was focussed on islamist threats. Yet the latest figures for referrals to the prevent Programme Show just 11 related to islamist terrorism. How can that be now . Yes William Shawcross, who conducted the review into prevent, revealed that the fear of being called islamophobic has led up to this. Well, yesterday, an anti semitic slogan was physically beamed onto big ben , while the leader onto big ben, while the leader of the house of commons drove a coach and horses through our democratic system to appease a load of radicals who have been threatening violence death threatening violence and death upon elected officials. Wake upon our elected officials. Wake up. I would take Lindsay Hoyle more seriously if hed have properly called out islamist extremism when his own colleague was slaughtered by a jihadi, i would take more seriously would take him more seriously if hed islamism. When hed called out islamism. When one of his colleagues quit over Death Threats recently. Now labour for, in my view, through their arms around people with a radical ideology who have now turned against them, a lot of them , and now theyre running them, and now theyre running scared. Well, now you know how it feels. Dont you . There is a tactic being used on the doorstep at the moment by radicals as they go around looking to drum up votes in some densely populated muslim areas. And i think this is a shameful tactic. They try to convince ordinary, well meaning members of the Muslim Community who really arent radical at all, to take a more hard line approach by saying, how are you going to answer on the Judgement Day . Well i would like to say to our mps , how are you going to look mps, how are you going to look your grandchildren in the eye and explain to them you and explain to them that you allowed into britain, allowed a problem into britain, you fester, you you allowed it to fester, you allowed take and that allowed it to take over and that you time and time again too you were time and time again too afraid to speak up about it as cowards. A home office cowards. A Home Office Spokesperson has said we have made significant progress to deliver a strengthened prevent, which placed tackling terrorist ideologies at its core. The ideologies at its core. The government agrees that extremism is ideology that presents the greatest uk and greatest threat to the uk and has moved swiftly to update, prevent guidance and prevent duty, guidance and training to make that clear. Well, very pleased say training to make that clear. Weljoinedlery pleased say training to make that clear. Weljoined now3leased say training to make that clear. Weljoined now byased say training to make that clear. Weljoined now by former say im joined now by former immigration minister mp immigration minister and tory mp robert out in Robert Jenrick, who spoke out in Parliament Today the Parliament Today about the dangers extremists dangers of letting extremists intimidate why do intimidate mps. Robert why do you feel so strongly about this . How bad is it . How bad is it . Well good evening patrick. I think its very bad. And this is an urgent situation that finally needs to be grasped by the government and by all of us in parliament. But as you set out brilliantly in your introductory remarks, what we saw in parliament this week was a disgrace. It was a dark day for democracy , because you had the democracy, because you had the speaker of the of Commons Speaker of the house of commons encouraged , uh, cajoled by the encouraged, uh, cajoled by the leader of the opposition , leader of the opposition, changing the procedures in our own parliament. The mother of parliaments, because of threats and extremism. And you had and extremism. And you had precious few members of parliament having the guts to stand up and say that the root cause of this is islamist extremism. And its not about extremism. And its not about being nice to each other. Its not about the quality of discourse on social media, though. Those things are though. Those things are important as well. It is about fighting extremism everywhere we find it with all that weve got, how do we do that, robert . Now, how do we do that . Do you think . You think . Well, there are some things we could do straight away and would have the most immediate effect. One would be to throw effect. One would be to throw out of the country all of those people who are here on visas , people who are here on visas, who are extremists. I started doing that as immigration minister, and i want to see that done much more because a visa is a privilege. Its not a right. A privilege. Its not a right. And if you are engaging in extremist activities or anti semitism , um, youve got no anti semitism, um, youve got no right to be here. Secondly, we should be taking prevent much more seriously and implementing the reforms in full as quickly as possible. That suella as possible. That Suella Braverman set out as home secretary to do exactly as youve just said, ensure that those people who are being tracked by our Security Services and 75 of them today are islamist extremists. A similar percentage of people on the prevent programme are also islamist extremists. At the moment , as islamist extremists. At the moment, as william islamist extremists. At the moment , as William Shawcross islamist extremists. At the moment, as William Shawcross has set out , it is completely out of set out, it is completely out of sync with reality , probably sync with reality, probably because many of those behind the programme are fearful of being wrongly labelled as , uh, as wrongly labelled as, uh, as islamophobes. Wrongly labelled as, uh, as islamophobes. And thirdly, weve islamophobes. And thirdly, weve got to slow down the pace of legal migration because that is a major issue facing our country andifs a major issue facing our country and its leading to the country changing fast, too fast and too difficult to properly integrate people into our country. The other thing, of course, which goes without saying, is the police should be enforcing a zero tolerance approach wherever they see these problems. And we know that isnt happening. As you just said on our own parliament tonight, this week and anti semitic trope from the river to the sea was being projected. That is a criminal offence. It could be tackled. I want the police to stand up and say that they have arrested those individuals and this cannot stand. Okay. Robert, can i thank you okay. Robert, can i thank you very much your time this very much for your time this evening. Former immigration minister robert minister and tory mp Robert Jenrick , who spoke out in jenrick, who spoke out in Parliament Today. And a lot of Parliament Today. And a lot of people are very grateful that he did. Thank you very much. Look, lets the thoughts from my lets get the thoughts from my panel lets get the thoughts from my panel. Ive telegraph panel. Now ive got telegraph columnist parliamentary columnist and parliamentary sketchwriter columnist and parliamentary sketchw conservative lord ive got conservative peer lord bailey and former labour Party Adviser laser. Uh adviser matthew laser. Uh madeline, what Robert Jenrick was saying there, why . I was saying as well, is that we need to just call this out for what it is now. And at what point do you think were going to draw line . Well, i think calling it out is one thing, but im interested in what the authorities are actually to do in concrete actually going to do in concrete terms to keep of the terms to keep members of the pubuc terms to keep members of the public safe, to make sure that parliamentarians can go about their business, to make sure that, for example , the concerns that, for example, the concerns raised William Shawcross , raised by William Shawcross, that all of are then acted that all of these are then acted on taken on board the on and taken on board in the review of the prevent scheme. I mean, pretty devastating , mean, its pretty devastating, isnt that, you know, within isnt it, that, you know, within hours shawcross isnt it, that, you know, within hours these shawcross isnt it, that, you know, within hours these reservationsis making these reservations public, you know , weve had yet public, you know, weve had yet more evidence of this going on in very , very open way. In very, very open way. Broadcast genocidal calls on on to the houses of parliament. I mean, we really couldnt for a long time. Its been becoming clear that there isnt , firstly, clear that there isnt, firstly, an asymmetry in the way that the policing happens. Um, the met policing happens. Um, the met police have been ignoring some truly flagrant anti semitism that clearly breaks the law. Theyve just been ignoring that. Theyve just been ignoring that. Um, meanwhile, you know, there was that woman who was arrested for private prayer near an abortion clinic. I mean, its very obvious whats going on here. I think calling it out is very obvious whats going on herething,1k calling it out is very obvious whats going on herething, butalling it out is very obvious whats going on herething, but iling it out is very obvious whats going on herething, but i wantt out is very obvious whats going on herething, but i want tout is very obvious whats going on herething, but i want to hear one thing, but i want to hear about some concrete action. To you next, matthew, ill go to you next, matthew, on and the prevent review , on this and the prevent review, as it were, showed that we are to afraid of being called islamophobia phobic to actually act on this. I mean, would you buy that, do you think or not . Well, look, i mean, i think its important that we remember that the threat does come from various quarters. I think you were acknowledge that, were right to acknowledge that, patrick, uh, were right to acknowledge that, patrick, uh, far were right to acknowledge that, patri attacks , uh, far were right to acknowledge that, patri attacks on , uh, far were right to acknowledge that, patri attacks on , th,ar were right to acknowledge that, patri attacks on , th, my right attacks on mps. Uh, my friend jo cox was murdered by a, um, a far right extremist. Uh, we have seen other instances, including with rosie cooper, who was sort of forced out of parliament because a guy was sent neo nazi, for sent to jail, a neo nazi, for conspiracy to murder, i think was the charge. So, look, it comes from it comes from all areas. But should we take it . We should take all of the threats seriously, all of the seriously, and all of the threats followed up, threats should be followed up, no they come from. No matter where they come from. So be any kind no matter where they come from. So bar be any kind no matter where they come from. So bar of be any kind no matter where they come from. So bar of political be any kind no matter where they come from. So bar of Political Correctness,i of bar of Political Correctness, as it were , to examining those as it were, to examining those threats. But i mean, you know, i think we cant emphasise enough how this is a very small minority of the Muslim Community. And, you know, ive ive said before, i think im very clear that we need to stop doing Community Politics in terms talking Community Terms of talking to community leaders, people, as you say, sort they they sort of saying that they they determine a blocks of voting. And we need to engage more individually across muslim individually across the Muslim Community who, frankly, whose interests and political aims are the everybody elses. The same as everybody elses. Its its its the health service, its the its housing. The economy. Its housing. Okay, now, look, sean, for me, i saw the goings on me, when i saw the goings on there yesterday, i thought, yeah, obviously mps are under threat. Terrible thing. Its a terrible thing. Absolutely it is. But are they aware of how threatened and unsafe ordinary members of the public have been feeling for quite a while, when we being told go and we were being told to go and look over shoulders look over our shoulders at christmas, mark, you know, look over our shoulders at christmgoingark, you know, look over our shoulders at christm going ark, concerts know, look over our shoulders at christmgoingark,concerts in w, people going to concerts in manchester, example. Just manchester, for example. I just thought, know, you thought, you know, you can change that they change a vote a way that they would in parliament you would vote in parliament and you can and yourself safe can try and keep yourself safe and, and of that. What and, and do all of that. What about us . Look, id argue that most mps do because they have they have their they their constituents that they speak will tell speak to regularly who will tell them of their fears. But want speak to regularly who will tell th back. How we got here was cancel culture. How many mps have not spoken out on things they believe many mps have changed the way they vote. Ive spoken the way they vote. Ive spoken to so many mps who will say things like, well, you cant say that publicly thats because that publicly and thats because of cancel culture for if you even mention an a doubt about trans, you are written off. If you say anything about race, even as a black person, youre accused of being racist. So mps have been herded in this direction over years. When you add on top of that, the vile attacks, the pilings that are organised online and i use the words organised online focusing on people who are primarily in politics, but also people in in pubuc politics, but also people in in public life. J. K. Rowling for instance, would would, would be a great example. And then you a great example. And then you see we get here. And the see how we get here. And the worst thing is prominent news outlets have legitimised these people by taking their content by telling them that theyre a victim and supporting them. So whats happened . Mps have now got to a point where they just think, you know what . It isnt worth. Mike would a worth it. Mike freer would be a great example of that. And if we dont nip it in the bud now, it will get worse because we are legitimising people legitimising these people who are derail our are deliberately derail our democracy. Well, Maria Cooksey , democracy. Well, Maria Cooksey, you you i mean, youve got i mean, does it does it do you think theres any truth to the idea that maybe our politicians are now waking up to how a lot of us have actually felt for quite and the perceived quite a while, and the perceived threat there . Threat that there is there . Think that mps are often at i think that mps are often at the forefront of safety concerns because in addition to, you know, being prominent public figures , just, you know, if you figures, just, you know, if you talk to mps, the sheer amount of abuse that they receive, which is has only grown exponentially since the advent of social media, which i think is not only given people greater access to the mps, its also created a culture in which people think that kind of subhuman that mps are kind of subhuman and not deserving of a private life. Um, so i think they do. They do understand. Makes do understand. But sean makes the so, well about cancel the point so, well about cancel culture people fearing to be culture and people fearing to be cowed. I think , honestly, the cowed. I think, honestly, the media has lot do with this media has a lot to do with this as well. Um, and social media has to do with this has a lot to do with this because it makes it so easy to identify people for, for, for kind pylons stuff kind of pylons and stuff and people, perhaps part of people, i think perhaps part of the problem is that politicians are a bit too are a bit, maybe a bit too plugged things like plugged into things like twitter, worry about, twitter, where they worry about, you getting into trouble you know, getting into trouble for something said. For something theyve said. Im just going to yeah, well, im just going to give matthew the say on give matthew the final say on this because, you know, weve seen david amess yeah. And seen john, david amess yeah. And that was it became a debate about social media. Mike freer , about social media. Mike freer, i Lindsay Hoyle came out i mean, Lindsay Hoyle came out and said, oh, look, weve just got to be kinder to each other in the way that we talk and things. For not things. Forgive me for not thinking our politicians thinking that our politicians have of islamist extremism threat of islamist extremism seriously. I think its just to say that we all need to be nice to each other. Was was reducing the issue from from what it is. I think we need to call call it out. The threats that they are, the threats that they are, the threats basically threats are basically from radical people on radical islam and from people on the right. Both the radical far right. Both threats be taken threats need to be taken seriously prevent program seriously to prevent Program Needs be made to work better, needs to be made to work better, because to because otherwise were going to people to want to people are not going to want to go into public life. Right, all of you, thank go into public life. Ri much. L of you, thank go into public life. Ri much. Another thank go into public life. Ri much. Another top nk go into public life. Ri much. Another top start you very much. 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Well coming up reform uks rochdale by election candidate Simon Danczuk was reportedly turned away from a community hustings tonight. Find out more hustings tonight. Find out more in our press pack. There is a video, but first, a shambolic Commons Speaker , sir lindsay Commons Speaker, sir Lindsay Hoyle, the fall guy for sir Keir Starmers Gaza Ceasefire mess. Labours former minister for the middle east, bill rammell, joins me live imminently. Have we been focusing on the wrong direction here, or is this more of a starmer and a labour problem . Do we ipsis Patrick Christys tonight on sunday mornings from 930 on gb news. News. Ive got tomorrows news. News. Ive got tomorrows newspaper front pages coming very soon and a moon landing as well. Well. Yes, thats true, but the fallout from yesterdays chaotic events in parliament rumbles on amid accusations that sir keir starmer pressured speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle into selecting laboun gaza Lindsay Hoyle into selecting labour. Gaza ceasefire amendment so that he could avoid an absolutely massive rebellion. Absolutely massive rebellion. Heres what the labour leader had to say earlier today. Tail between his legs. Between his legs. I can categorically tell you that i did not threaten the speaker in any way whatsoever. I speaker in any way whatsoever. I simply urged him to ensure that we have the broadest possible debate and your mps, the broadest possible debate. Um, so that actually the most important thing, which is what do we do about the awful situation in gaza , could be properly gaza, could be properly discussed by mps. Im joined now by former labour minister for the middle east, bill rammell. Labour minister for the middle east, bill rammell. Bill, thank east, bill rammell. Bill, thank you very much. Great to have you on the show. Great to be with you from the biggest you hours away from the biggest rebellion of Keir Starmers leadership, he decided to intervene personally and go and meet with sir lindsay. Then, lo and behold , we have a break of and behold, we have a break of convention, a massive break of convention. And here we are right now. Has keir starmer right now. Has keir starmer supposed man of integrity, thrown Lindsay Hoyle under the bus . Bus . Emphatically not. Emphatically not. Um, leaders of parties, frontbenchers , senior frontbenchers, senior parliamentarians meet with the speaker every single week that parliament is sitting to make representations about particular issues or the conduct of business within the house of commons. It happens all the time. And what legitimately, keir starmer was making represents motions about was that he wanted labour mps to be given the opportunity to vote for the Labour Amendment and not be forced to choose between an snp amendment and a conserved party amendment, and i think most reasonable people watching this programme would say, well, of course mps should be given the opportunity to vote for their partys position. Thats what it was about. Additionally it was the snps day, though bill is the snps day, though bill is the snps day, though bill is the snps day. Why are labour so special . Why are labour so special . Why are labour so special . Its not that were so special. This is a fundamentally special. This is a fundamentally important issue. I think, uh , as important issue. I think, uh, as Lindsay Hoyle said in his first statement, the Standing Orders Standing Order 31 is outdated , Standing Order 31 is outdated, is anachronistic in forcing a divide between one Opposition Party and the government. But divide between one Opposition Party and the government. But in such an important issue. Such an important issue. But then he contradicted himself because he said, actually, i did it because i was made aware of threats. I mean, made aware of threats. I mean, do you not think that theres a chance that keir starmer played the youll blood the old youll have blood on your card here, massive your hands card here, massive pressure no, think, pressure that no, i dont think, uh, keir starmer did that. I do that, uh, keir starmer did that. I do that , uh, the i do think that, uh, the speaker does have a concern about of mps. About the safety of mps. I personally wouldnt have made that. The principal reason for making the decision that he had, because i think its important that, you know, parliament is allowed and mps are allowed to make the decisions that they want. But is it right that labour mps should be able to vote for a Labour Amendment . I think most reasonable, reasonable people , uh, would say reasonable people, uh, would say that that is right and proper. And also , you know, ive been and also, you know, ive been watching your program, patrick, and the allegation is , uh, and and the allegation is, uh, and theres not a shred of evidence to back this up because the only people in the room were keir starmer and Lindsay Hoyle, that this is a stitch up because lindsay used to be a labour mp. Lindsay used to be a labour mp. Well, i mean, you know, you would not have the range of senior conservative mps coming out in support of Lindsay Hoyle if they thought that was to be the case. I think jacob recently , because they know that if they come publicly against him, come out publicly against him, he have on them he might not have a call on them at again. At pmqs again. No. Well a number of them are ministers who automatically will be called. And, you know, youve had jacob rees mogg, youve had edward leigh, youve had mark francois, you know , the francois, you know, the rottweiler european rottweiler for the European Research group, vehemently backing the speaker. They wouldnt be doing that if they believed there was a all of this goes, look, all of this goes away, doesnt it . If keir starmer swears on the bible an inquiry and says bible at an inquiry and says exactly said to lindsay exactly what he said to Lindsay Hoyle, youre not hoyle, no, you know, youre not going to have a Public Inquiry for the decision of a speaker. Boris had to stand on a bible and everyone had those memes of the bible into flames. The bible bursting into flames. Well, why shouldnt keir starmer . Away if he starmer . It all goes away if he does i think. Does that, i think. I think he certainly didnt do the standards and do that for the standards and privileges , which do that for the standards and preventually , which do that for the standards and preventually what , which do that for the standards and preventually what got , which do that for the standards and preventually what got him1ich is eventually what got him booted out, uh, of the house of commons, you know, and theres also really partisan, petty politics going on here. The snp, which is driven by an existential loathing of the labour party because they know labour party because they know labouris labour party because they know labour is the only party that can effectively block an independent scotland deliberately crafted the resolution to try to divide the labour party. The outrage from labour party. The outrage from the snp last night was they didnt have an opportunity to vote on their resolution. Well the only reason they didnt have that opportunity is because the conservative party at the very last minute, deliberate , last minute, deliberate, withdrew their amendment. Had withdrew their amendment. Had they not done that, the snp would have been able to vote uh on their motion. And you know what, patrick . The tragedy of this is that i actually think across the three parties, indeed across the three parties, indeed across all the parties in the house of commons, theres actually a clear majority in favour of a humanitarian ceasefire about the snp amendment that labour didnt agree with because it was just one dimension. Uh it didnt make clear that israel has the right to self defence. It didnt make to self defence. It didnt make clear , uh, that, you know, clear, uh, that, you know, theres not an issue of collective punishment , uh, going collective punishment, uh, going on. It didnt make clear, uh, that. On. It didnt make clear, uh, that. 100 labour mp. That. 100 labour mp. Look, bill, 100 labour mps supported it. Were going to vote for that, potentially. Even some members of his shadow cabinet. Okay. And the fact is that Lindsay Hoyle made that because Lindsay Hoyle made the decision made now , now, the decision made now, now, today, the headlines are not keir starmer has had the biggest rebellion ever in a general election year. And with respect , election year. And with respect, bill, you are asking us all to just believe that that behind closed doors meeting with keir starmer and a labour speaker is to be taken at complete face value, and we all, we all just have to move on, dont we . Now know what keir was doing was exactly ive just explained. Trying to opportunity trying to get the opportunity for labour mps to vote for a labour motion on whats happening in gaza and the need for a humanitarian ceasefire, and not be forced to choose between the snp and the conservative party. And i think thats absolutely a right and proper thing to do. Its also the case that there arent any divisions on this issue in the labour party. There were a number of tory mps during the debate yesterday who spoke, spoke favour of an spoke out in favour of an immediate ceasefire. And i think thatis immediate ceasefire. And i think that is one of the reasons, one of reasons why the of the major reasons why the tories their amendment, tories withdrew their amendment, uh, because they didnt want the sight of divisions within the tory party. All right. Look, bill, thank you. I say it is a pleasure you. I must say it is a pleasure having on. Appreciated. Having you on. Much appreciated. It former labour it is the former labour minister, rammell. There minister, bill rammell. There putting that side of it up. Okay so coming up, locals in so look coming up, locals in cumbria have reported a panther on the loose. Do we have a big cat roaming in the british countryside . Plus as reform uk Simon Danczuk prepares for next weeks rochdale by election, he was reportedly blocked from speaking at a community hustings tonight. There is video footage of that. Find out more after the break. Oh yes, and theres a moon landing going on as well as if as if you werent entertained enough. Patrick enough. Its Patrick Christys inaya fortnight. But youre listening to gb news radio. News radio. All right. Welcome back to Patrick Christys tonight on gb news. Now its time to bring you tomorrows news tonight in our press pack. Lets do it. The press pack. Lets do it. The metro, two years of lunacy in the last 730 days. Tyrant Vladimir Putin has fired 8000 missiles targeted 828 hospitals and killed at least 10,000 ukrainians for what . Thats what the metro asks. We go to the the metro asks. We go to the daily star now. A bad day for daily star now. A bad day for mutts. Sleepy joe bidens dog bit secret service team 24 times in nine months and had the worlds oldest hound strip to title after experts kick up a stink, theyve gone for the old classic rough justice. Um, we go to the eye now. New brexit deal on food and cars could be agreed with labour, says eu officials. Interesting isnt it . The eu more inclined to do something with labour . There we go over again to the independent starmer. I didnt threaten the speaker the yes, you speaker. The tories, yes, you did. I think quite well did. I think quite well encapsulating actually the pantomime that currently is taking also the taking place. There is also the picture story of joe biden, his dog, apparently absolute dog, apparently is an absolute savage. Um, and agents 24 two savage. Um, and agents 24 two cant defame a dog, can he . He he just 24 times, uh, daily mail outrage as genocide message is beamed on big ben. Yeah, weve beamed on big ben. Yeah, weve covered that a lot already tonight. Covered that a lot already tonight. Right. Um, and the daily express as well. Just why daily express as well. Just why didnt police stop anti semitic slur beamed on big ben . Same theme there. From the river to theme there. From the river to the sea on big ben. Right. Well im joined, obviously, again by my press pack. Weve got telegraph columnist and parliamentary sketchwriter telegraph columnist and parliamergrantyketchwriter telegraph columnist and parliamer grant conservative peer madeline grant conservative peer lord bailey and former labour Party Matthew laza. And Party Adviser matthew laza. And now, look, just before i get stuck into a couple of the news stories of the day, i just want to bring this to your attention because theres week to go because theres a week to go until polls open the until the polls open in the rochdale by election and another fascinating plot line is that former labour mp for rochdale , former labour mp for rochdale, Simon Danczuk, is standing again , but this time for reform uk. So by election hustings were taking place tonight. But mr danczuk was reportedly turned away at the door. Take a look. Can i come into the meeting as soon as the, uh. Simon . Simon, weve got space. Weve got space. Simon speak at the top. Simon simon cant speak. Simon simon cant speak. Simon, youre not letting me speak at the meeting. Simon no, no, its a simple question, because im going to go if i cant speak. If im not on the top table. If im not on the top table. Speaking to the people of rochdale, im going to leave. The. Im not waiting till the end. Im not waiting till the end. Am i . Am i . At the part of the meeting or im not. Which which is it . Which which is it . Well, according to the timess senior political correspondent, gerry scott, organisers say theyre just a group of friends who invited the three main parties , plus three main parties, plus independent candidate George Galloway. They say this was based on a number of factors, including prominence and issues of concern. At the moment, being raised predominantly within the asian and muslim communities. Well, azhar ali, who had his support from the labour party withdrawn, had accepted but cancelled at around 2 pm. Today. Paul ellison , the today. Paul ellison, the conservative candidate, also pulled out so apparently its just George Galloway and Ian Donaldson from the lib dems on stage. Here are all the stage. Here are all the candidates standing in the rochdale by election. Azhar ali, Labour Party Mark coleman, independent Simon Danczuk reform uk Ian Donaldson, liberal democrat paul ellison, conservative George Galloway , conservative George Galloway, Workers Party of britain Michael Howarth , independent william howarth, independent william howarth, independent william howarth, independent. Guy otten, green party. Raven rodent, sebbys corner, official Monster Raving Loony Party and david tully, independent okay moving on. In around an hours time, human exploration of the moon begins a new chapter up in teasing the living heck out of this. So im glad its actually happening now. So americans touched down on the lunar surface first time in surface for the first time in more years. A craft more than 50 years. A craft called odysseus, clocking in at around the size of a red london phone box, launched on elon musks Spacex Falcon rocket last thursday and is due to land on the moon at around 1130 tonight. If successful , the joint mission if successful, the joint mission between private Company Intuitive machines and nasa will be the First American Lunar Landing since apollo 17. In december 1972, odysseus will begin a raft of experiments that paves the way for future missions , including support of missions, including support of nasas artemis programme, which ultimately wants to send astronauts back to the moon and even build a permanent base. There are exciting times for humanity. Sean, would you go to the moon . I mean , two minds about it i mean, two minds about it because part of me as someone who loves gadgets, loves engineering. My degrees in engineering. My degrees in engineering. My degrees in engineering loves the idea that it engineering loves the idea that h done engineering loves the idea that it done this. But the other it has done this. But the other part like, you could part of me is like, you could have this money on have spent this money on some hungry people the planet hungry people on the planet down here earth. The here on on planet earth. But the amazing thing about this, this has done by private company has been done by private company nasa is a client. And to get to the moon beforehand was a national experiment. You needed the weight of america to do it. The of russia, whether the weight of russia, whether and of where and its a real show of where were that private were going that private companies are delivering these sort as to clients, sort of things. As to clients, its strange. Its strange. Saying, marty, people are saying, marty, that is actually that this is actually quite important because we might we might need to go to the moon, get out of here. Yeah. To get away from. Oh, i see theres like plan b, other candidates are available. Available. Candidates are available , candidates are available, other planets are available. The other planets are available. The planets are the kind of i mean , planets are the kind of i mean, what is this . Does this float your boat . Oh, absolutely. I mean, i think its kind some think its kind of sad in some ways that as , as supposedly ways that as, as supposedly technology improves, but often in day to day life , i feel like in day to day life, i feel like the only thing that really improves visible for us day to day of our day is the quality of our phones. You know, for example, all experience of is all the experience of flying is such one compared to such a miserable one compared to how to the glory how it used to be in the glory days. They havent done a concorde 1990s. It was concorde since the 1990s. It was decided expensive. Decided that was too expensive. Um obviously no moon landings since 1972. Um so we just have to play golf on dry land now. I mean, this is all quite. Its not inspiring. You know, its nice to see people pushing the boundanes nice to see people pushing the boundaries fact that, as boundaries and the fact that, as sean out, its happening boundaries and the fact that, as seanprivate out, its happening boundaries and the fact that, as seanprivate enterprise� nappening with private enterprise makes it even , more impressive. Even more, more impressive. Can i just ive been can i just say ive been enraged moon landing . Enraged by this moon landing . Right. Because i was told initially its definitely happening at 10 30. Can take happening at 10 30. We can take it live on this show. This was, i promise you, not false advertising for viewers and listeners. It listeners. This show. Then it moved to past nine. Right. Listeners. This show. Then it moits to past nine. Right. Listeners. This show. Then it moits all past nine. Right. Listeners. This show. Then it moits all great. Ist nine. Right. Listeners. This show. Then it moits all great. Okay|e. Right. Listeners. This show. Then it moits all great. Okay wetight. Listeners. This show. Then it moits all great. Okay we gott. Listeners. This show. Then it moits all great. Okay we got a so its all great. Okay we got a couple of bites at this cherry. Now im being told its 11 30. Now im being told its11 30. To honest with you, mead to be honest with you, beth mead doesnt confidence doesnt fill me with confidence that things going to get there. The headliners will be oh, the headliners will be bringing moon. The moon bringing you the moon. The moon landing. I mean, my first reaction, initial instinct reaction, my initial instinct is, couldnt this is, as sean says, couldnt this money but money be better spent here . But theres point. This theres a serious point. This takes the war, takes us back to the cold war, when space race was at its when the space race was at its height. There was reason height. And there was a reason behind its because , you behind that. Its because, you know space. Can know who controls space. Can trolls dot, dot. And so trolls dot, dot, dot. And so particularly know, thinking particularly, you know, thinking of in russia, of the front pages in russia, i think we need to keep our nose aheadin think we need to keep our nose ahead in satellite technology. One original 90s european one of the original 90s european satellites earth at the satellites came to earth at the end hs satellites came to earth at the end its life. Uh, in the last end of its life. Uh, in the last 24 hours. And reminds us just 24 hours. And it reminds us just how important they are. I mean, without this technology, we might a might even have to get the a to z where would be . Z out. Where would our gps be . But you know, theres obviously more military uses as more serious military uses as well. We keep well. So yes, we need to keep our nose ahead in the space race. I mean, china did it recently. W f e to space. Yeah. Youve been to space. Yeah. But tell you what, itd be an but i tell you what, itd be an absolute disaster for mankind if we weapons and we had weapons in space and a disaster of which we disaster the likes of which we havent. Havent seen. Actually, interesting, actually, because there was a headline a few days ago, wasnt there . About space nuke. Thats about putins space nuke. Thats right cant but wonder right. I cant help but wonder if all feeding into if this is all feeding into something but, but something now. But, um. But there we go. Enough about there we go. Thats enough about there we go. Thats enough about the humanity. I is the end of humanity. I citri is a lovely were a nice, lovely story. Were going. To the moon. Going. Were going to the moon. And where are flipping and where are the flipping pictures . Nasa . Right. Pictures . Nasa . All right. Anyway, uh, pictures . Nasa . All right. Anyway, uh, who came anyway, coming up, uh, who came out battle of out on top of the battle of labour versus the snp yesterday . Was starmer or stephen was it keir starmer or Stephen Flynn or neither more when i crown tonights greatest britain and union jack shortly. But next the Guardian Newspaper is slammed for publishing a Just Stop Oil column that called for protest, targeting labour mps homes. So whos in the right . All of that and more of tomorrows newspaper front pages today, in just a. Tick ive got some more front pages for you. Now lets do it. Ive got some more front pages for you. Now lets do it. The for you. Now lets do it. The Daily Telegraph i have russian soldiers in my sights, but no shells to fire at them. Of course, that is, uh, life on the front line of ukraine. Uh, islamists are now in control, says braverman amid speaker row. Says braverman amid speaker row. Uh, so thats the telegraph there we go. The married there we go. The sun married daily. And her surf hunk, sir singers frolics as hubby and uk p0p singers frolics as hubby and uk pop star Ellie Goulding cosies up to a surf instructor on holiday, while her husband caspar jopling, stays at home. Um oh. The guardian see seeing same gp each visit cuts workloads and improves health. Okay. All right. Um and possibility in the currency. I was going to say. Yeah itd be nice wouldnt it . Yeah, it would be really nice that, um, it was an execution. Serious story. Family mourn. Boy shot by the idf. That is, of course, a gaza related story. Um, we go to the times now. Fake tears and tricks of the charity fundraisers. Recruits learn psychological techniques to secure donations for great ormond street hosphal for great ormond street hospital. And this is a times investigation. The fundraising regulator has begun an investigation after the times found that people going door to door for well known Childrens Charity have been taught pressure selling techniques. Obviously i havent had time to digest this full story yet. Digest this full story yet. Whilst i think its interesting, i also think its quite a high risk this for times. I also think its quite a high risit this for times. I also think its quite a high risit does this for times. I also think its quite a high risit does involve r times. I also think its quite a high risit does involve great imes. I also think its quite a high risit does involve great ormond if it does involve great ormond street hospital, so street childrens hospital, so that a great risk for that or its a great risk for great ormond hospital if great ormond street hospital if it turns out to be true, well, absolutely. Theyve got alan sugar. Is that he donated the proceeds that why he donated the proceeds of ormond of this ad to great ormond street hospital . Oh, well, well, well oh, well, well, well, well have the story and find out. Very controversial. Very controversial. Very controversial. It be nothing you never it might be nothing you never know. Ill never do it again. Know. Ill never do it again. Can we get back to the Ellie Goulding . In the time and the sun . Weve got mardi gras, as you were and lord were hearing that and lord bailey and former party bailey and a former labour Party Adviser. Matthew laza. Now this is guardian. Okay, so is in the guardian. Okay, so its a former shadow minister, stella hit out the Stella Creasy has hit out at the guardian over a Just Stop Oil opinion that encouraged opinion piece that encouraged protesting of protesting at the homes of labour. The piece was labour mps. The piece was written by sarah lunnon, apparently a co founder of the protest criticised by protest group, was criticised by creasy as evidence of an infection in our body politic. The mp for walthamstow also admitted that she was terrified of raising the matter , of raising the matter, recognising it puts her, uh, in the sights of eco activist group. Apparently her opinion piece was says we all have a right to feel safe in our homes. But with the storms, the flood waters and fires, we are not safe. Maddie, fires, we are not safe. Maddie, our left wing militants now trying to trying to get at them. I think that they are. This is a classic example of why Extinction Rebellion are their own worst enemy. The fact that theyve managed to get Stella Creasy , um, who should be Stella Creasy, um, who should be one of their most natural supporters. Yeah. And probably now much of much of mainstream politics united in opposition to them because they always take their methods. So far that no reasonable person, even someone whos extremely about whos extremely concerned about climate change, could possibly support them. Yeah. And just matthew. Yeah. And just just a point of clarification. A minor point of clarification. It a ball, apparently. A minor point of clarification. It i a ball, apparently. A minor point of clarification. It i thinka ball, apparently. A minor point of clarification. It i think we all, apparently. A minor point of clarification. It i think we all apparently. A minor point of clarification. It i think we all app oh, itly. But i think we all get oh, sorry. Sorry. Thats fine. I think i mean, i mean, look, i think i mean, maddie said the hit the nail on the there. I mean, ive the head there. I mean, ive known known and ive known ive known stella and ive worked day at work worked for first day at work together. Itv, together. We worked for itv, turned mean, is turned up. I mean, stella is somebody who the somebody who takes the environment seriously environment very seriously indeed. Up indeed. And to get her back up just shows where weve got to. And, whatever your and, you know, whatever your cause, whether you think you may think its right, you do not have to harass people. Have the right to harass people. Stellas kids, um, stellas got two young kids, um, stellas got two young kids, um, stella deserve to bring stella and dan deserve to bring up their kids in peace. Um, and you can discuss politics with stella want, but stella whenever you want, but it just need sort our just shows we need to sort our politics out. Yeah, now, politics out. Yeah, n yeah, indeed. Now, sean, i hope mind me skipping yeah, indeed. Now, sean, i hopyon mind me skipping yeah, indeed. Now, sean, i hopyon this mind me skipping yeah, indeed. Now, sean, i hopyon this one,nind me skipping yeah, indeed. Now, sean, i hopyon this one, because skipping yeah, indeed. Now, sean, i hopyon this one, because stant|g you on this one, because i want to talk about this very quickly. Because running out of because were running out of time. Growing in time. Fears are growing in cumbria that cat is the loose. I thought youd cumbria iiow. Now. 9 there he is. Now. There he is. Still 9 there he is. Still ah, there he is. Still on the prowl. Construction worker Sharon Larkin snowdon reckons prowl. Construction worker sharsheskin snowdon reckons prowl. Construction worker sharsheskin saywdon reckons prowl. Construction worker sharsheskin saywdon leopard that shes seen a black leopard lurking the countryside lurking around the countryside in after disgrace. Lurking around the countryside in discovering after disgrace. Lurking around the countryside in discovering affresh sgrace. Lurking around the countryside in discovering affresh sheep. After discovering a fresh sheep carcase. Oh god, the dinosaurs like something for the natural history, doesnt it . Anyway, professor Andrew Hemmings of the Royal Agricultural Society also thinks big cats are roaming thinks the big cats are roaming britains backwaters. However, britains backwaters. However, doctor eagle droege of Oxford University rubbish claims, saying that more sheep would have died if a big cat was in the area and he any strong views on this . On this . Sure. Sure. I love this story because it makes me feel like nessie. If youre up in cumbria, push this story. Your tourist dollars will go through the roof. But lets go through the roof. But lets be clear if there was a big cat with all these domestic sheep hanging around, hed be killing them left right and centre. Yeah, i dont think she. Youd have got a lot of stories out of this in your days in whats happened is in cumbria. Whats happened is that reporter that that theres a cub reporter that sheep tripped died sheep has tripped over and died and rotted and theres a big moggie running around and someones thats someones taking a funny. Thats a model that somebody a dinosaur model that somebody made airfix. Made out of airfix. I think there is one, but hes just really incompetent at catching hes just really incompetent at catchinjust awful. I used its just awful. I used to have to um, when i was at have to go, um, when i was at the westmorland gazette, news the westmorland gazette, my news edhon the westmorland gazette, my news editor, to find paper and shout out, good paper. It used out, its a good paper. It used to occasionally me and to occasionally make me go and investigate to yet investigate big cats, yet to yet to one, unfortunately. But to find one, unfortunately. But one days, mike. Anyway one of these days, mike. Anyway uh, its to reveal uh, right. Its time to reveal todays greatest pritt stick uh, right. Its time to reveal today jackass st pritt stick uh, right. Its time to reveal today jackass eventuallyk uh, right. Its time to reveal today jackass eventually. Uh, right. Its time to reveal todayjackass eventually. There Union Jackass eventually. There we go. Just. Madeline. Whos your greatest present . I went for bit today to pick an mp when the parliamentary sketchwriter. But just thought sketchwriter. But i just thought andrew such andrew percy did such a brilliant today. Its not andrew percy did such a brilliethat today. Its not andrew percy did such a brilliethat you today. Its not andrew percy did such a brilliethat you hearay. Its not andrew percy did such a brilliethat you hear a. Its not andrew percy did such a brilliethat you hear a speech t often that you hear a speech delivered with such passion and. And that is so powerful and really makes an important point. Yeah. His speech was talking yeah. So his speech was talking about experience of, about the experience of, of jewish people and also mps in the climate of anti semitism. The climate of anti semitism. Absolutely. And he was on the show today as well. Show earlier today as well. So do watch that later on. Um, do watch that back later on. Um, lord bailey, whos your my, um, greatest britain is professor matt goodwin, whos done a study looking the Mental Health of looking at the Mental Health of young people and said of 18 to 1330 year olds and said theyre being taught to obsess on it. And actually, sometimes they being taught to obsess on it. Artheyreilly, sometimes they being taught to obsess on it. Artheyre bringingetimes they being taught to obsess on it. Artheyre bringing down they bring theyre bringing down their Mental Health their own Mental Health and i think important think its really important because in this because young people in this country, health country, their Mental Health is under need to under attack, and we need to help their mental help them with their mental resilience. And we need to talk about bit about about a little bit more about fortitude, about poor fortitude, not just about poor mental help get Mental Health, to help them get past its very past that. Yeah, its a very difficult articulate difficult topic to articulate correctly. Think both you and matt and i think both you and matt goodwin very well goodwin have done that very well there. Um, whos your greatest . Win, but im not going to win, but its sir keir starmer, not for what on in the commons what went on in the commons yesterday. As revealed yesterday. But as its revealed in that he was in a new biography that he was beaten up in the nightclub in cornwall teenager after cornwall as a teenager after trying of his trying to defend one of his friends attacked for friends who was attacked for being was true queer ally. Okay, good. Um, todays greatest andrew greatest britain is andrew percy mp. Go union jack. Mp. Uh, well go for union jack. Now. Whos yours . Maddie. Okay okay. Weve actually talked about this a lot in the show, but i didnt know this when picked this a lot in the show, but i dicbutknow this when picked this a lot in the show, but i dic but imv this when picked this a lot in the show, but i dic but im justs when picked this a lot in the show, but i dicbut im just going| picked this a lot in the show, but i dicbut im just going to picked this a lot in the show, but i dicbut im just going to go ked it. But im just going to go full okay . Ive gone full screen. Okay . Ive gone for the police. Theyre the met police. Theyre absolutely pathetic, piddling statement when statement they put out when someone to them, why are someone said to them, why are you broadcast you allowed to broadcast a genocidal on the front of genocidal chant on the front of the house commons . Hows the house of commons . Hows the parliament . Course, parliament . And of course, it wasnt long that the wasnt that long ago that the great mullahs that the met police were saying actually , you police were saying actually, you know are many know what . There are many different interpret the different ways to interpret the jihads. Just be jihads. It could just be a matter of personal struggle. Um, matter of personal struggle. Um, and yes, and now theyre trying to the to the to justify from the river to the sea. So the mullahs of the met police the mullahs of the met police. Wow. Wow. Okay. Wow. Wow. Okay. Wow. Wow. Okay. As in the big cheeses. Wow. Wow. Okay. As in the big cheeses. Yes. As in the big cheeses. Yes. As in the big cheeses. Yes. Yeah. My ulez obviously. Yeah. My ulez obviously. Who knows . Oh yeah. Who knows . Oh yeah. Archewell jack carson is sarah dyke the co founder of just stop haul for her. Her piece shes written in the guardian. Actually, i hold a guardian responsible this as guardian responsible for this as well, that labour mps well, saying that labour mps should targeted home. Should be targeted in a home. But piece of but in a staggering piece of hypocrisy , she she then goes on hypocrisy, she she then goes on to all should all feel to say we all should all feel safe home. Needs to safe in our home. She needs to remember many. Labour mps, remember that many. Labour mps, if not all of them, have children in their homes. They have the right to feel safe in their own home. This is part their own home. And this is part of um um groups of legitimising, um um groups who then go out and attack people in public life. Mps just being one version of that. Okay. And im not going to win again either, but its stephen the snps Stephen Flynn mp. The snps westminster way westminster leader. Wrong way round total round for oh for total pomposity, has he . You think keir should be should be a jackass for defending his friend, for defending his friend as he as he tried to very quickly. Yeah, its total pomposity as he tried to make yesterday all about the snp and his pride and not about the people of gaza and israel. Okay, yes. All right. Israel. Okay, yes. All right. Um, todays Union Jackass is sarah lennon. There you go. Sarah lennon. There you go. Okay. Um, look, thank you very, very much. Its been an incredibly lively show. It has at times heated. Um, but, hey, at times heated. Um, but, hey, we are holding a mirror up to the nation and would urge you all and and watch all to go and rewind and watch this thank you. Thank you, this show. Thank you. Thank you, thank thank everybody thank you, thank you, everybody who watch and listen is headliners ill you headliners next. Ill see you tomorrow nine. Tomorrow at nine. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good evening. Welcome to your latest weather update with me, annie, from the met office. A mixture of sunshine and showers for many of us on friday. There is a risk of hail and thunder, though, will feel though, and it will feel a little bit cooler than of late. Thats because this cold front has across the country has swept across the country through bringing that through today, bringing that heavy rain. Behind heavy rain. But behind it we have slightly more have got a slightly more typically air for this typically warm air mass for this time year. Will be time of year. So it will be feeling much closer average. Feeling much closer to average. That colder night that means a colder night tonight see tonight, and we will see a westerly wind bringing in showers west. So parts showers from the west. So parts of wales, the south west northwest england, many Western Areas of scotland will see some quite persistent showers overnight will as overnight and these will fall as snow highest ground snow over the highest ground above 3 or 400m. So it will be a colder start to the day. We could be down as low as 3 or 4 across parts of northeast and scotland, but many eastern areas will see a much drier and brighter start to friday. There will be some fairly pleasant feeling. Sunshine as well. However, in the west we will see showers quite quickly developing and into the and these will push into the east the afternoon. These east by the afternoon. These bnng east by the afternoon. These bring risk of hail bring that risk of hail and thunder, it could be quite thunder, so it could be quite unpleasant you get caught unpleasant if you do get caught in one. However, in any sunny spells it will continue to feel fairly of 9 or fairly pleasant. Highs of 9 or 10 on saturday after a 10 degrees on saturday after a fairly dry start to the day, we will see the mist and fog clear. Well be fairly chilly though, and many areas will see a dry rest of the day as well, though some Northern Areas could see some Northern Areas could see some showers lingering. Well some showers lingering. Well see persistent see some more persistent rain move south sunday, move into the south on sunday, but many Northern Areas will get away fairly dry weekend. Away with a fairly dry weekend. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good evening. Youre with gb news. The top story tonight. 67 mps have signed a no confidence motion in the commons. Speaker sir Lindsay Hoyle demanding his resignation. Hoyle demanding his resignation. Seven it follows a Chaotic Parliament session yesterday with mps from various parties walking out of the Parliamentary Chamber last night. The leader of the Scottish National party, Stephen Flynn, says hoyles position is untenable. Meanwhile sir keir starmer says the speaker did the right thing by selecting labours amendment in the debate but denies threatening him or influencing any decision making. Rishi sunak any decision making. Rishi sunak said he still, though very concerned over the speakers handung concerned over the speakers handling of the Gaza Ceasefire debate, despite sir lindsay issuing a full apology for allowing controversial amendments s. In other news today, hundreds of victims of the post Office Horizon it scandal will have their names cleared under new legislation. The government says the law set to come into force in july, will overturn the convictions of hundreds of wrongly accused. Suppose postmasters. Post Office Minister Kevin Hollinrake said today some um guilty individuals may also be exonerated, but he said the unprecedented intervention will deliver long overdue justice. This Police Chiefs are calling for new powers to allow them to instantly disqualify any drink or drug drivers at the roadside. Currently drivers