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Election . Now, bit of election . Now, bit of controversy he is. James cleverly , a moron. Harsh words , cleverly, a moron. Harsh words, some might say, but not according to nigel farage. Because as ive been saying on this show all week , the this show all week, the government tried to take credit for the fact zero people crossed the channel in small dinghies over the Christmas Period because of 50 mile an hour winds. This fella tried to take the credit. Nigel farage roared back fair comment or below the belt. And finally a new report belt. And finally a new report by politicians is asking for a clampdown on fans who turn up to big football matches without tickets. This, of course, tickets. This, of course, follows the euro 2020 final at wembley, when 2000 fans steamed into the ground through escape exits and disabled doors. But do we really need new laws, or is it simply a matter of tighter security . What are this lot . No about going to a football match. All of that coming up in the next hour. So all of that coming up in the next hour. So is all of that coming up in the next hour. So is cleverly next hour. So is cleverly a moron. Do politicians know anything about football . Did anything about football . Did tony blair have some good ideas . Tony blair have some good ideas . And another question i want to ask you. Were doing this later in the show. Which politicians would like to have would you most like to have a pint with and would you pint with and what would you talk let me know. Ill talk about . Let me know. Ill read out the best comments gbviews gbnews. Com. All of that coming after your latest news headunes coming after your latest News Headlines with aaron armstrong. Headlines with aaron armstrong. Good afternoon. Its 3 02. Aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. A person has died in scotland following an outbreak of e coli. Its after the Uk Health Security Agency confirmed its currently investigating 30 cases across england and scotland to identify any potential links to a brand of cheese. The Food Standards Agency has announced a precautionary recall of four products from mrs. Kirkhams, lancashire cheese because of possible e coli contamination. The family of a man who was killed while trying to save a stranger in sheffield , says the stranger in sheffield, says the tragic circumstances show the sort of man he was. Chris marriott went to the aid of an unconscious woman when he was hit by a car which had ploughed into a crowd of people on wednesday. Life wednesday. Shes in a life threatening condition in hospital. A 23 year old man hospital. A 23 year old man arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder remains in custody. 55 year old has been custody. A 55 year old has been released on bail. Witness tariq naili says people were fighting in the street beforehand. Found a lot of people they found a lot of people gathering around and screaming, and a car crashed into the sign next door at and a lot of, uh, fighting over there. I think 6 fighting over there. I think 6 or 7 people fighting each other, uh, opposite side. And there is uh, opposite side. And there is one guy, uh, in his 20s, uh, his face is full of blood and one woman lying down. Uh beside two people have been killed following an avalanche in the french alps. Reporting that local media is reporting that the as a british mother the victims, as a british mother and were part of and a son who were part of a group skiing on mont blanc Authorities Say another person escaped with minor injuries , escaped with minor injuries, while others were unhurt. While five others were unhurt. The forecaster are warning winds of up to 75mph could hit parts of up to 75mph could hit parts of southern england and wales tomorrow, as the uk recovers from storm garrett rivers in tewkesbury have burst their banks as a result of the heavy rain during the storm. Yellow alerts have been issued in some parts of the country from 11 am. Tomorrow until new years a. M. Tomorrow until new years eve. Weatherjournalist nathan eve. Weather journalist nathan rao says the challenging conditions are set to continue now. How. Now. The Uk Met Office has said that the irish met office. Met Office Met Eireann might name this storm on saturday as tom henke because its coming in a deep, low pressure system from the west across ireland first, which will take the brunt of the winds, and then into the United Kingdom, therell rain kingdom, where therell be rain and some significant hill snow in scotland. Because as that storm comes in and bumps up against cold air, that is going to bring some hill snow. So up there theyve had heavy there where theyve had heavy snow storm garrett snow from, from storm garrett already, watch i aman a man who tried to save three people trapped in vehicle says people trapped in a vehicle says they as they people trapped in a vehicle says they to as they people trapped in a vehicle says they to cross as they people trapped in a vehicle says they to cross a as they people trapped in a vehicle says they to cross a river. As they people trapped in a vehicle says they to cross a river. The they people trapped in a vehicle says they to cross a river. The men tried to cross a river. The men died after drove their 4x4 died after they drove their 4x4 into river esk near into the river esk near glaisdale on the North York Moors thursday. Police say moors on thursday. Police say the tragic incident was caused by conditions by hazardous weather conditions that badly affected the that had badly affected the roads surrounding area. Roads in the surrounding area. Tony blairs government considered spending, sending migrants to a scottish island, a newly released documents have revealed. The proposal was part revealed. The proposal was part of a Nuclear Option being examined to tackle asylum issue in 2003. It would have seen the creation of a camp on the isle of mull with Illegal Migrants being sent there with little or no right of appeal. The scheme also suggested deporting people to regional safe havens in turkey, kenya and south africa. Turkey, kenya and south africa. Burglars targeted the home of the england midfielder jack the england midfielderJack Grealish on wednesday, while his family were in the house. £1 million worth of jewellery and watches are said to have been stolen, while grealish was playing for Manchester City against everton , the against everton, the footballers fiancee footballers family and fiancee were reportedly the were reportedly watching the game when they heard game on tv when they heard a disturbance. No arrests have been made. The number of been made. The number of religious hate crimes has jumped sharply following the outbreak of the israel hamas war. The uks Largest Police forces have reported an increase in both anti semitic and islamophobic offences in october and november. In Greater Manchester, police recorded 74 anti semitic hate crimes in the month following hamass attack on israel, compared to 15 for the same penod compared to 15 for the same period last year. Rishi sunak has condemned president putin after russia launched a massive air attack against ukraine overnight. The Prime Minister says the latest bombardment shows putin will stop at nothing to eradicate freedom and democracy. Officials say 18 democracy. Officials say 18 civilians have been killed and at least 130 injured following a series of attacks on Critical Infrastructure and military facilities. Uk says 27 drones and 87 cruise missiles were intercepted in the biggest bombardment since the war began. Bombardment since the war began. While were alive across the uk on tv, digital, radio and if you want us on your Smart Speaker, just say play gb news us back over to. Martin. Over to. Martin. Thank you aaron. Now a man who died after a car collided with a group of people in sheffield yesterday has been named father of two kristian named as father of two kristian marriott kristian, known as chris, was out for a post christmas walk with his wife and two young sons, aged eight and six. Its believed he left his family to try and give first aid to a woman lying unconscious in the street. Hes also believed she had been involved in an altercation between a group of people. A car between a group of people. A car then collided with mr marriott. Then collided with mr marriott. The woman he was helping and a crowd that had gathered around him. Lets cross live now to sheffield to get more. This on this and join our yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley. Humber reporter anna riley. Anna, a tragic tale of a wonderful father caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Whats the latest . Whats the latest . Yes, it certainly is, martin. Chris the victim of that crash incident where that car ploughed into him as he was giving first aid to a woman lying unconscious on the street , rendering the 46 on the street, rendering the 46 year old father of two dead at the scene. Also, the woman that the scene. Also, the woman that was on conscious. She remains in hospital. All six other people hospital. All six other people were injured in the attack as well, including an off duty middle life. Now, speaking to residents here on college close, this is where the incident happened. You might be able to see behind us floral tributes have been laid, but residents certainly still reeling from that. It happened on wednesday afternoon at around 2 00, but people still here, shaken by what has gone on. Ive been out speaking to residents and this is what i witnessed. Tarik naili is what i witnessed. Tarik naili told me about what happened around and screaming and a car crashed into the sign next door , crashed into the sign next door, and a lot of , uh, fighting over there. I think 6 or 7 people fighting each other on the opposite side. And there is one opposite side. And there is one guy, uh, in his 20s. Uh his face is full of blood and one woman lying down, uh, beside, i think shes injured, and they said there is two, uh, people underneath the car stuck under the car. And there is another guy sitting beside. And then the guy sitting beside. And then the police came , uh, and, uh , they police came, uh, and, uh, they lift the car up and they pull the two people underneath them. The two people underneath them. Later, we have heard the news that , uh, one later, we have heard the news that, uh, one of them is passed away. It is a quiet, nice area. Away. It is a quiet, nice area. Everybody cheering and saying hello whenever you walk around. Hello whenever you walk around. So we never expected that to happen. Tarik, theyre telling us about what happened on this normally quiet cul de sac. Now tributes have been pouring in for chris. He was well known in the community for his charitable work, and he was a member of the local church. He was known for his work helping at a food bank and helping children out as well. In the summer holidays. Well. In the summer holidays. Now the family of chris have released a statement thats been put out by South Yorkshire police. And in this they said chris was a wonderful husband, dad , brother, uncle and friend dad, brother, uncle and friend to many. He devoted much of his life to helping others , life to helping others, including at Sheffield College , including at Sheffield College, Jubilee Food Bank and debt advice voluntary action sheffield and more recently Community Money advice as a trustee of manor and castle. After school and kids clubs, the circus instances of his death. Although tragic and unfathomable to us, his family show the sort of man that he was to go to help rather than to turn away. Chris was also a man of faith who wanted others to also experience the joy he had found. Trusting jesus. We take comfort in these jesus. We take comfort in these most difficult of times in our belief that he is with our his lord and saviour. Whilst we mourn his loss , and they also mourn his loss, and they also ask for anybody with information to come forward to the police and say, we would urge anyone to share this so that we can understand better the circumstances in which he died. The church group as well, that hes also a member of christ central, paid tribute to him in a statement , and they said its a statement, and they said its an unbelievably awful situation and we are heartbroken for the family. We now South Yorkshire family. We now South Yorkshire police have been continuing their patrols here today. Detectives have been seen knocking door to door to get more witness statements from people to help them put this case together. Theyve also been case together. Theyve also been asking for cctv that people may have of the incident , that have of the incident, that doorbell and dash cam footage as well, to be sent to them to assist with their enquiry. We know that a 23 year old man arrested on suspicion of murder is still in custody. A 55 year is still in custody. A 55 year old man was arrested for attempted murder and he has been bailed. So police still bailed. So police still appealing for anyone with information to come forward to get justice for chris and his family. He leaves behind his heartbroken wife and two young children. Boys aged just eight and six. Aukus okay anna riley, thank you very much for that full update from the tragic incident. Incident. And joining us now to tell us more is former metropolitan Police Detective Peter Bleksley peter. Um, Police Detective Peter Bleksley peter. Um, what can you Police Detective Peter Bleksley peter. Um, what can you say peter. Um, what can you say about this case . Here is a good man, um, setting out to do the right thing. A man of faith, a well respected pillar of the community, worked at a food bank known for his charity work until the end. The tragic end was trying to help others. What do we know about the build up to this case . Well, it would appear from witness testimonies not only from the man who spoke to your channel, but from other testimonies that ive found elsewhere that this might have been the culmination of an ongoing dispute of some sort. So the Police Investigation will have to sort out the who where, why, what, and when. Not only of this tragic, fatal incident, but any incidents that might have preceded it that might have led to this dreadful set of circumstances where a clearly wonderful man tragically lost his life. His life. And peter, it would appear that that chris wasnt the target of this vehicle. He was target of this vehicle. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well, many detectives these days are trained in collision investigation. It wasnt such a thing back in the day, but because vehicles are increasingly used in crime, its only right that senior detectives have that experience. Modern vehicles can often give up their secrets through something thats known in policing circles as telematics. Essential on Board Computers that so many modern vehicles have fitted into them. These days. These can tell the speed , days. These can tell the speed, the direction, the history of someones driving brazier king distances and many , many, uh, distances and many, many, uh, other pieces of crucial data to help an investigation like this. Help an investigation like this. So that that will definitely be being explored together with more traditional secrets that collision scenes often throw up. And that is the transfer of chips of paint for example, from a vehicle to a person. Fragments of glass, pieces of plastic and the like. It will be a very forensic, heavy investigation here. And hopefully together with forensics , cctv, perhaps with forensics, cctv, perhaps mobile phone evidence, dash cam and the like, a full, accurate and the like, a full, accurate and truthful picture will be able to put forward in front of able to put forward in front of a court. Well peter, two men have been arrested already on suspicion of murder and on suspicion of attempts of murder. Both men remain in custody, so this isnt a case of whodunit , is it . Its a case of whodunit, is it . Its a case of whodunit, is it . Its a case of why did they do it . My understanding is that one man has already been released on bail, and the 23 year old man remains in custody. And whilst i wont go into specifics about his detention, what the police will are able to do is detain anybody for 24 hours thereafter, they would need to apply for an extension to that Detention Time , say up to that Detention Time, say up to that Detention Time, say up to 36 hours, which can be granted by a senior officer of superintendent rank and any detention beyond that. They would probably have to apply to a court to keep somebody in custody for a longer period. But custody for a longer period. But all these inquiries , the all these inquiries, the forensics, the to house house and of course, interview of witnesses and potential suspects will all lead to what will hopefully be the truth being established. What led to this . Established. What led to this . Who was involved . What culminated in and if there is any criminal responsibility , who any criminal responsibility, who is that person and can they then be charged . Be charged . Okay. Peter bleksley, thank you for joining okay. Peter bleksley, thank you forjoining us on the show. You for joining us on the show. Its always a pleasure to have you on. Its such a shame. Its in such tragic circumstances on this occasion now, moving on the isle of mull on the west coast of scotland, known for its of scotland, is known for its wildlife , culture, scenery wildlife, culture, scenery and outdoor activities. But if tony blairs Labour Government had had its way, it would also have been a holding camp for thousands of Asylum Seekers. Thousands of Asylum Seekers. Thats according to newly released official papers. It was part of plan which would have part of a plan which would have seen Illegal Migrants put straight back on the plane. They arrived little or no arrived on, with little or no right of appeal. Well, with right of appeal. Well, with history repeating itself, because thats where we are. Yet again. Joining us now to discuss this is gb news political correspondent, olivia utley. Olivia always a pleasure, isnt it . Isnt it funny how politics is one big cycle . These are is one big cycle . These are precisely the kinds of ideas being talked about. Now by the conservative government. And we had we had keir starmer this week and last week talking about offshore, offshore containment. Does this make tony blair far right. Right. Well, i think what it shows to me is just how far the overton window has shifted in the last sort of 20, 25 years back in the late 90s and early 2000, the labour, the Prime Minister, the labour leader and his senior aides were willing to have a frank conversation about what to do with Illegal Migrants. One policy idea that they thrashed around was detaining them on the isle of mull. That was an idea taken out of the australian playbook. Uh, there was another idea which involved sending them to the Falkland Islands, something involved sending them to the falkla hasslands, something involved sending them to the falkla has been 5, something involved sending them to the falkla has been discussed 1g involved sending them to the falkla has been discussed very which has been discussed very recently under this conservative government and lord powell, who at the time was chief of staff in downing street, even questioned whether britain needed to have system needed to have an asylum system at all. He made the point that or or someone close to him made the point that, given that britain is an island and everyone who has come here by sea has come over from france or another safe country , it could another safe country, it could be argued that not a Single Person who arrives on these shores has a legitimate asylum claim. I think not even those on the very right of the conservative party would suggest these days that britain maybe shouldnt have an asylum system at all. But the very fact that these discussions were being had at the upper echelons of the Labour Party Just shows how far, in some ways, british politics seems to have moved to the left. What will be really interesting is to see how keir starmer reacts to these papers. He has reacts to these papers. He has tete a tetes with tony blair once a week , but he has said once a week, but he has said repeatedly that the rwanda policy is cruel and unworkable and shouldnt be implemented. How will he feel on learning that his idol, really tony blair, had come up with pretty similar policies just over 20 years ago. It should be said, of course, that none of the policies that thrashed around by this group of senior labour aides, with tony blair among them , were actually put into them, were actually put into practice. Yes, but reading practice. Yes, but reading between the lines, it sounds as though that was more due to feasibility than any sort of moral concerns about the plan. The plan to send migrants to the isle of was actually put isle of man was actually put through a feasibility study, and it decided that it was unworkable. Tony blair unworkable. But tony blair himself expressed deep frustration repeatedly with the state the asylum system. Will state of the asylum system. Will keir starmer find something similar if and when he gets into number 10 . Olivia ali thank you very much. Well, we hear all the time that starmer is blair in disguise. Lets see if hell nibble at the same policy and talk about that. Now im joined by International Security and Border Control expert henry bolton. Henry, always a pleasure. Who would have thought it that the fan of open it that that the fan of open borders, the europhile to beat all europhiles tony blair was actually a far right extremist in disguise. And if only hed had gone for some of these ideas , henry, instead of the human rights act in 1998, instead of opening our borders to the g8 countries and seeing immigration quadruple under a Labour Government , the big question is, government, the big question is, henry, do you think any of these ideas now might get the fancy, might take the eye of keir starmer . Starmer . Uh, i think he might pay them sort of might, might present his, his policy as being akin to this because he wants to he outflank the conservative party to an extent. I mean hes got a wonderful opportunity now on immigration, on to, uh, to to, take the centre stage. Take the centre stage. Um, this might be a way that he can do it, but i cannot see labour modern labour. Um, actually implementing any of this. Of this. And as ive said repeatedly, martin, you know, when you look at any of the parties that say that theyre going to tackle immigration or stop the boats or any such thing, i want to see their plan. I dont want to see these are my five points. These are my six points. These are my nine points. This is what i promise to do. I want to see their plan. I want to see that theyve credible theyve got some credible thinking the how, where, thinking behind the how, where, when what and what resources when and what and what resources theyre going apply to it. Theyre going to apply to it. Before i take any of it, with more than a pinch of salt. But going back to tony blair, i mean, olivia was absolutely right. It indicates very powerfully how much british politics has moved. People say the conservative party now is right wing, far right. It is not that theres a part of it that is still conservative. Everything else in british politics seems to have lurched significantly to the left. And significantly to the left. And its interesting to note that i think. But the other thing is , think. But the other thing is, tony blair was looking for solutions to a lot of problems. I give credit where credit is due, and in this particular case, some of the thinking was was appropriate weight. His comments on the echr or lord powells comments on the echr. Powells comments on the echr. Um, he was saying that actually, if we ignore the echr, we will be challenged on it. Um, but it may take three or more years before we have to respond to any, any finding against us, dunng any, any finding against us, during which time we have taken control. We have sent a very powerful message. Now that to me , is the sort of determining mission, that Decision Making , mission, that Decision Making, the courage that we need and are sorely lacking in Politics Today and in terms of our borders and immigration. So theres a lot of stuff to take away from this. I think even for people on the right wing. So you know. Yeah. Um, im quite surprised to learn of this , but, you know, im, im of this, but, you know, im, im augned of this, but, you know, im, im aligned to much of it. Ive said much of it before, uh, we the United Nations, uh, convention on refugees does allow for the detention of people who have entered a country illegally now claiming asylum is a is a is a defence against that. But you are allowed to detain them and nobodys talking about this. Its the echr that challenges that. But the echr has also moved its goalposts over the years. So, you know , i think years. So, you know, i think that the way to do it is as lord powell suggested, and tony blair was clearly thinking about, which ignore the echr drive which is ignore the echr drive forward with British Sovereign and legal policy and wait for it to be challenged. To be challenged. Of course, that could be the case already. We just dont have politicians with the guts to do so. But henry, a particular point of interest is the isle of mull as a potential location because of course, its a British Sovereign territory. So we dont have any this we dont have any of this nonsense rwandas human nonsense about rwandas human rights record. And the same with the Falkland Islands. These are long standing ideas. Forget about keir starmer. Why didnt rishi sunak or Boris Johnson look at this . It seems like a no brainer. It is a no brainer, martin and i cant answer that question. Um , ive been saying it for um, ive been saying it for a long time. I wouldnt actually long time. I wouldnt actually advocate advocate the isle of mull for a whole range of reasons, but why not build a large Detention Centre in the middle of Salisbury Plain or wherever, miles from anybody, miles from where the tourists 9, miles from where the tourists go, where you can secure it, you can provide for all the welfare, logistical and all the other needs of these people until you process their claims and hopefully sent most of them back. Um, the isle of mull, i dont know. I dont know what the thinking behind that particular location but particular location was, but i would go for somewhere like Salisbury Plain, the logistics are a lot easier, but ive been saying a long time. Saying it for a long time. Martin, should be put when martin, we should be put when these come in. We these people come in. We shouldnt putting them shouldnt be putting them in hotels we should be putting hotels. We should be putting them built camp. Them in a purpose built camp. Detention camp called refugee camp of a better camp for want of a better phrase, Salisbury Plain , phrase, in Salisbury Plain, until weve processed them. Um, until weve processed them. Um, thats what other country thats what every other country in the world does apart from in europe. And weve got to stop looking to the europeans or the nonh looking to the europeans or the north americans for lessons. It does work. Look at the does not work. Look at the United Nations high commissioner for refugees. They build these type of camps in all sorts of places. Okay, okay, henry, im afraid we have to leave it there. Um, otherwise, once again , youre so otherwise, once again, youre so passionate. Youd be talking until new years day. Have a good one. Thanks. Its always a pleasure. Coming up, is the pleasure. Now, coming up, is the snp once again failing scotland . Ill have the latest as Humza Yousafs party is accused of pitiful progress on its manifesto commitments. Im manifesto commitments. Im Martin Daubney on gb news. Britains news channel. Sunday mornings from 930 on gb news. Welcome news. Welcome back. Youre watching or listening to me Martin Daubney on gb news now. Lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts. Been asking you thoughts. Ive been asking you who like a pint thoughts. Ive been asking you who whichz a pint thoughts. Ive been asking you who which politician. Pint thoughts. Ive been asking you who which politician. And thoughts. Ive been asking you who which politician. And more thoughts. Ive been asking you who iapoint, olitician. And more thoughts. Ive been asking you who iapoint, what an. And more thoughts. Ive been asking you who iapoint, what an. Anyouryre to the point, what about your thoughts on the blair thoughts on blair on the blair files . Has really got files . And that has really got you dan says this have you going . Dan says this i have little time or support for blair, and i blame for blair, and i blame him for introducing policies at introducing policies aimed at furthering his own interests, and which are responsible for the political turmoil in which we find ourselves now. No fan of blair there. Terry says this starmer is only a blair veneer underneath. He is as awful as underneath. He is as awful as corbyn. Bit harsh. I mean, corbyns gone, um, starmers back, but the point is well start to look at some of these interesting ideas that blair had, or at least blairs advisers had, because some of them sound like the kind of ideas that the tory party should be doing. Callum finally says this tony blair. Unfortunately, starmer seems to be very much at the behest of the blair foundation. So starmer is just foundation. So starmer is just a hand puppet. Vote for him. And hand puppet. Vote for him. And if you want to blair do, unfortunately, many of the folk of the younger end of the voting spectrum wont even know or remember what a blairite government like. Pour government was like. Pour awareness and politically biased education has made sure of that. So few fans out there for tony blair. But nevertheless, the ideas do have some merit. Thats what were talking about now. Theres lots more to come between now and 4 00 and have the latest for you as nigel farage has branded James Cleverly a moron for his claims of reduced small boat crossings over christmas. When we all know over christmas. When we all know it was the weather. But first, heres your latest news headunes heres your latest News Headlines with sophia wenzler. Thank you martin. Its 330. Thank you martin. Its 330. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. A person has died in scotland following an outbreak of e coli. Following an outbreak of e coli. Its after the Uk Health Security Agency confirmed its currently investigated 30 cases across england and scotland to identify any potential links to a brand of cheese. A brand of cheese. The Food Standards Agency has announced a precautionary recall of four products from mrs. Kirkham , lancashire cheese kirkham, lancashire cheese because of possible e coli contamination in an avalanche in the french alps has killed two people. French media is reporting the victims as a british mother and son, who were part of a group skiing on mont blanc, all authorities confirmed there were two deaths, adding one person escaped with minor injuries. Five others were unhurt. At the family of chris unhurt. At the family of chris marriott, who was hit by a car while trying to save a stranger, say the circumstances of his death showed the sort of man he was. The 46 year old was trying to help a woman who was lying unconscious on the street when a car ploughed into a crowd of people in sheffield on wednesday. A 23 year old man has been arrested suspicion murder arrested on suspicion of murder and murder and remains and attempted murder and remains in custody , while a 55 year old in custody, while a 55 year old has been released on bail. Rivers in tewkesbury have burst their banks after heavy rain dunng their banks after heavy rain during storm garrett. The met office is warning gusts of up to 75 miles an hour could hit parts of the south of england and wales tomorrow as another storm approaches. Yellow weather approaches. Yellow weather alerts have been issued from 11 00 in the morning until new years eve. Flowers have been years eve. Flowers have been laid on the bank of a North Yorkshire river in tribute to three men who died after being trapped in a submerged 4x4. A local man who tried to save them says they were swept away he says they were swept away as he tried to cross the river esk near glaisdale. Police say the near glaisdale. Police say the tragic incident was caused by hazardous weather conditions that had badly affected the roads in the surrounding area , roads in the surrounding area, and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gb news. Dotcom. Website at gb news. Dotcom. For stunning gold and silver coins, youll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news Financial Report. The gb news Financial Report. And heres a quick snapshot of todays markets , as the pound todays markets, as the pound will buy you 1. 2746 and ,1. 1510. L ,1. 1510. ,1. 1510. The price of gold. Is the price of gold. Is £1,619. 18 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7733 points. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news Financial Report. Report. And thank you sophia. Now our very own nigel farage has taken James Cleverly to task over the latters claim to have presided over the first christmas in five years, when zero migrants made a channel crossing in a dinghy. Mr farage wrote on x, formerly twitter you may be called cleverly, but you are clearly a moron. Im closed over now and the wind has been gusting at 50 miles an hour. That is why there are no migrant crossings. Miles an hour. That is why there are no migrant crossings. So is are no migrant crossings. So is the government still posturing over the migrant crisis instead of solving it . And ive been saying all week it was the weather, not the politicians. Whats done it. And joining us now is political commentator peter spencer. Peter James Cleverly , not only home cleverly, not only home secretary, hes a weather god. He can control the weather too. Isnt that amazing . Well, i have isnt that amazing . Well, i have to say , let us to save time. To say, let us to save time. Just assume that our esteemed colleague and friend nigel farage is never wrong. I mean, i mean , yeah, its i mean, i mean, yeah, its been blowing an absolute total hoolie. I mean, talk about any port in a storm. The only port worth visiting just at present, in a storm. The only port worth visiting just at present , from visiting just at present, from the point of view of these guys is calais. Do not go one inch further than that. Further than that. That said , cleverly also that said, cleverly also takes credit for cutting the number of migrant crossings by a third and that is down to better links with the albanian government. And that is a serious achievement. On top of that , the home on top of that, the home office has at last hallelujah managed to make some serious inroads into the monumental backlog of asylum claims. I backlog of asylum claims. I mean, the interesting thing about all this is you put those two together and it seems to me like that achieves a great deal more than the than the rwanda scheme might ever manage. Sunak scheme might ever manage. Sunak always prides himself on quite competence. Well, there is quite competent in action and compare and contrast with the rwandas scheme to which sunak has nailed his colours and you cant help but think that cleverly did have a point when he apparently referred to rwandas scheme as , referred to rwandas scheme as, um, bats droppings. Um, bats droppings. Um peter, um , heres heres a um peter, um, heres heres a point i didnt think id ever make. And that is , um, i like make. And that is, um, i like nigel. I like James Cleverly. Do you think that the word the choice of word was a bit too spicy . Were all frustrated that spicy . Were all frustrated that things arent, um, better controlled in terms of our borders. Many of us certainly are. Um, James Cleverly okay. Was a bit clumsy on this instance, but the comment , the instance, but the comment, the word itself, the word moron , has word itself, the word moron, has been quite divisive. A lot of people, um, conservative voters , people, um, conservative voters, think nigel is fair and proper to use that word. Do you think its a bit below the belt, though . Well, i mean , i think it is a well, i mean, i think it is a little bit and i think its quite deliberately below the belt. I mean, farage is a man whos never knowingly, as we know, understated. That said, when we talk about language. And when we talk about language. And little gags or one liners, whatever , i note that cleverly, whatever, i note that cleverly, he has come for in a great deal more, stick over his joke, uh, about about putting date rape drug into his wifes drinks. Now theyre very senior conservative mp chair of a of a select committee. Um, Dame Caroline committee. Um, Dame Caroline dinenage dinenage um today said, look, that was misogynist and misogynistic and ill judged. And when you consider the fact that the traumatising effect of date rape on its victims seems to such that is so bad that even the comedy circuits steers clear of it for the home secretary come out with that. That was a really , seriously, totally der really, seriously, totally der brained thing to do. Yeah, but peter , um, with the yeah, but peter, um, with the greatest of respect, it was a recorded conversation in what was meant to be a private conversation when a reporter decided to do a sting , you know, decided to do a sting, you know, cast the first stone. Those of us whove never said anything inappropriate in private, i mean, i, i think, you know, maybe you can say it was ill judged. But back to the honesty about tony blair. So tony blair, um, these ideas coming forth about style about actually quite tory style idea , years of offshore idea, years of offshore containment on the isle of mull, um, in africa and in turkey. Do you think starmer might revisit some of those ideas if and when he gets in . Well , i he gets in . Well, i mean, we have multiple reports suggesting that heindeed multiple reports suggesting that he indeed will revisit some of these ideas. The blueprint that these ideas. The blueprint that weve been hearing about, though, is quite different from the rwanda scheme in that it would be on a place which hasnt got such a sketchy , uh, um, got such a sketchy, uh, um, record award and reputation as rwanda also , most importantly, rwanda also, most importantly, the any processing would be done by british officials who british, of course, would be accountable. And the other point that makes it completely different from the tory thing is that if peoples asylum claims are granted , they will they will are granted, they will they will not as accord the as, as as distinct from the tory thing of , distinct from the tory thing of, of making them stay there or go somewhere else, they would actually be allowed to come to somewhere else, they would actlunitede allowed to come to somewhere else, they would actlUnited Kingdom to come to somewhere else, they would actlUnited Kingdom. come to somewhere else, they would actlUnited Kingdom. Icome to somewhere else, they would actlUnited Kingdom. I mean,o the United Kingdom. I mean, thats not to say that there wont be at some point, some kind of legal complication and some kind of backlash within the labour party. But thus far, theres little evidence of it. And that is because it is so different from the tory scheme. Different from the tory scheme. Spencer, thank okay. Peter spencer, thank you enjoy you for joining us. Enjoy the rest festive period. Rest of your festive period. Its always pleasure. Thank its always a pleasure. Thank you very much. Now next up, well the latest for you on well have the latest for you on the israel hamas war. As the conflict sign conflict shows no sign of abating. Well be looking ahead to, what, 2024 could mean for the region and beyond. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel with me, michael portillo, gb news. Britains news channel. Britains news channel. Britains news channel. Welcome back. Its 344. Youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news now the un says an estimated 150,000 palestinians are being forced to flee areas of central gaza as Israeli Forces expand their ground offensive and as egypt confirms its put forward a three stage proposal to stop the fighting and World Leaders reflect on the conflict and what it might bring in 2024. Charlie peters has this report. Peters has this report. Under the cover of thousands of rockets , Hamas Terrorists of rockets, Hamas Terrorists launched their bloodiest attack in decades. Over 1200 people in decades. Over 1200 people were killed on the october 7th attacks, dubbed black saturday in israel. Stories of the in israel. Stories of the brutality of the terror gradually reached the world. Innocents burned and beheaded, widespread sex crimes, families murdered in their homes , murdered in their homes, hundreds taken hostage in retaliation, the Israeli Military launched an unprecedented bombing campaign, followed by a Ground Invasion into the gaza strip. The idfs into the gaza strip. The idfs mission is to destroy hamass leadership and military infrastructure and recover its hostages. At first, the west and hostages. At first, the west and much of the world rallied with israel following the horror of the attacks, but some of that support has shifted to concern amid the humanitarian catastrophe enveloping the coastal enclave of the un. Says that over half a Million People are enduring a catastrophic hunger crisis. Over 21,000 hunger crisis. Over 21,000 palestinians have been killed since the war erupted, according to the hamas run health ministry, with over 70 of them women and children. Hamas women and children. Hamas figures do not distinguish between male civilians and terrorists. The violence has terrorists. The violence has sparked protests and marches in britain, with controversial pro palestine demonstrations and a major rally against anti semitism taking place on londons streets. But amid the debate over the destruction , debate over the destruction, british politicians have continued to visit israel to support it and advise. Soon support it and advise. Soon after the attacks, rishi sunak arrived to express Solidarity Party foreign secretary James Cleverly and Boris Johnson arrived soon after, with the former Prime Minister telling gb news that the west needed to be patient after octobers horrors give israel a time and the space to conduct the operation to track down the people who did this and to make sure they can never do it again. Lord cameron joined World Leaders to warn israel that its civilian casualties were too high. Some analysts have criticised the use of heavy munitions on targets in urban refugee camps , and despite urban refugee camps, and despite a seven day ceasefire with some hostages released, there is little hope of peace and security returning to gaza soon. Israels army chief said that the conflict will rage on for many months as his forces push into central gaza soon they will target the south, where almost over a Million People have gathered after being displaced desperately fleeing the violence. But that violence is now spilling across the region. The president of the Palestinian Authority has warned that the west bank could explode at any time. Drone and missile attacks on International Shipping by iran backed groups continue in the red sea. Rocket exchanges are escalating on the lebanese border. Us forces are coming under regular attack in iraq and syria, and European Security agencies claim to have smothered agencies claim to have smothered a hamas attack in germany with no end in sight. There are growing fears that the israeli invasion of the small coastal strip could soon become a global catastrophe. Oil prices could catastrophe. Oil prices could rocket. Inflationary concerns rocket. Inflationary concerns are growing and security agencies are on high alert. Charlie peters, gb news now there was a notable rise in anti semitic incidents since the outbreak of the war in the middle east. And joining us now for more on this story. Live from Golders Green is gb News National reporter Theo Chikomba. Theo, reporter Theo Chikomba. Theo, this is something weve seen has been sadly prevalent since october the 7th. A 3,350 rise in anti semitic crimes in the two weeks directly after the hamas invasion of israel. Whats the latest. The latest. Yes, well, as you say, theres been a sharp rise, particularly in london, and theres been a rise in various parts of the country as well , parts of the country as well, according to the figures that weve seen today, released by some uks Largest Police some of the uks Largest Police forces. Now its important to say we are in Golders Green at the moment, right in the heart of the Jewish Community here and in october last year, well, october this year, i should say just a few days after the conflict began in israel, there was an incident which took place here at the kosher restaurant just behind me on my left shoulder. And also it was we saw graffiti put onto the bridge which said free palestine. And those incidents were subsequently investigated by the British Transport Police and the metropolitan police. But its metropolitan police. But its the community here. Several months on from that, they have been seeing an increased Police Presence and theyve been feeling scared to travel in some parts of london wearing the clothes that they would normally do. So weve been speaking to do. So weve been speaking to one of the councillors in this area and this is what he had to say. Well, its very its you know, im not surprised with the figures because you, you see the you see or you hear about a number of different instances. So, but its clearly very shocking and very alarming. Uh those figures and i, i dread to think what the later figures thats only just two weeks worth. Well, i dont think the fear has had as has has escape anyone. I mean, ultimately there are still instances happening every day. And systematic incidents and as islamophobic incidences are happening every single day, i see sight of some of those in terms of the actual reports, um , and you know , reports, um, and you know, people are being careful where they go, what they do, and, and even myself, you know, i go to town, i dont show my, uh, my skullcap anymore. I wear skullcap anymore. I wear a baseball cap and, um, just just out of, you know, it was part its fear. And, uh, that thats it. But, you know, you have to you have to carry. On. You have to carry. On. Well, hes just one of many of those people who live in this community who have felt the effect of whats been happening in israel. Now. Its also worth adding that the metropolitan police , the metropolitan police police, the metropolitan Police Say London is truly an International City and abuse against any individual or group should not take place. And weve also heard today from the National Polices chief counsel spokesperson, who said anti semitism, racism and faith based discrimination will not be tolerated in any form. And they went on to say policing takes all reports of hate crime seriously because we know that they have a devastating impact on individual victims and targeted communities. As weve targeted communities. As weve heard from the mayor of london, who said £250,000 is being invested to help Community Shows like this one. But some argue that simply doesnt go enough and they havent heard much of the mayor since that time in october. But of course , we have october. But of course, we have seen more Police Presence here throughout the day. Throughout the day. Okay, Theo Chikomba , thank okay, Theo Chikomba, thank you for joining okay, Theo Chikomba, thank you forjoining us live there you for joining us live there from Golders Green to highlight the alarming rise in anti semitism since october the 7th. Now football clubs and police are failing to take a rise in fan cocaine use. Serious enough, according to mps demanding tougher laws against disorder. The culture, media and Sports Committee also recommends new legislation around unauthorised entry to prevent chaos seen at the euro 2020 final. Of course , that was at final. Of course, that was at wembley and since that wembley final, in which fans openly snorted white powder, authorities gained powers to impose football , authorities gained powers to impose football, banning orders for drug possession in the uk courts last season issued 682 new football banning orders. The highest since 20 1011, in large part due to the new legislation. However the Westminster Committee suggests further work is needed by the police to understand the prevalence of drug supply and possession at football. Now, i wonder if any football. Now, i wonder if any of these people have ever been to a football match. I wonder if any of these politicians even understand terrace culture or the working classes. Let alone understand the intricacies of how chaotic it can be on match day . Lets first talk about the euro 2020 final. Fans turned up without tickets. That is true. Without tickets. That is true. But do we really need new legislation to stop them getting in . 2000 fans who stormed into wembley got in through disabled and fire exits, and there was talk that was collusion with inside the stadium from underpaid stewards , opened the underpaid stewards, opened the door for a few quid to let them in. Do we need policy makers getting involved in what should be just in proved security . As far as what goes on inside grounds . Stewards are paid about £12, £15 an hour. Why are they going to risk their bacon frisking down football supporters . Have they ever been supporters . Have they ever been down the millwall . These people, they have been to the city ground or any grounds around the country . I get very nervous when politicians get involved in football because think they football because i think they interfere where they know nothing about thats my nothing about it. Thats just my thoughts. Know what you thoughts. Let me know what you think on topic. Lots more think on this topic. Lots more coming for you todays coming up for you in todays show. Now, the latest on the show. Now, the latest on the blair its revealed the blair files as its revealed the former labour plans to former labour pm had plans to turn Asylum Seekers turn around Asylum Seekers without trial or appeal. Now a without a trial or appeal. Now a lot of people would say theyre sensible ideas , ideas. Maybe the sensible ideas, ideas. Maybe the tory party should be looking at adopting. Im Martin Daubney on adopting. Im Martin Daubney on gb news britains news channel. Gb news britains news channel. A brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on. Solar, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Im alex burkill here with your latest gb news, weather forecast. Its going to stay pretty unsettled as we go through the end of the year with some heavy rain and strong winds to come through few to come through the last few days of 2023. Thats because low pressure too far away. Pressure is never too far away. There deep area of low there is a deep area of low pressure currently the pressure currently out in the atlantic, is heading atlantic, which is heading towards at the moment towards us, but at the moment were the influence of an were under the influence of an area of low pressure towards the north east of uk, which has north east of the uk, which has brought today brought the blustery winds today and bnng and will continue to bring strong and heavy strong winds and some heavy outbreaks across parts outbreaks of rain across parts of northeast scotland through the elsewhere, the night. Elsewhere, we will see showers dying see many of the showers dying out, so clear skies for out, so some clear skies for a time before some heavy rain pushes its way in from the west, where have the clear where we have the clear skies through temperatures through tonight. Temperatures are to drop, could fall are going to drop, could fall several degrees below freezing are going to drop, could fall severaipartsees below freezing are going to drop, could fall severaiparts of; below freezing are going to drop, could fall severaiparts of scotland, zezing are going to drop, could fall severaiparts of scotland, soing across parts of scotland, so a harsh frost likely here. Elsewhere as we go through saturday, spell of heavy rain saturday, a spell of heavy rain pushing way east and north pushing its way east and north eastwards country. Eastwards across the country. This is going to bring some strong some strong winds and also some significant snow across parts of scotland. As it makes its way across, we could see more than ten centimetres, perhaps, so could disruption in could cause some disruption in the north. It is going to be a cold day further south, mild for the of year, but not the time of year, but not necessarily feeling the necessarily feeling it in the wet and windy weather into new years eve. It is going to years eve. And it is going to be blustery, day. Be a blustery, showery day. Some of showers will be heavy be a blustery, showery day. Some of times showers will be heavy be a blustery, showery day. Some of times shov strong. L be heavy be a blustery, showery day. Some of times shov strong winds,eavy at times and strong winds, particularly the south, with particularly in the south, with gales possibly severe gales, possibly even severe gales, possibly even severe gales of us it does gales for some of us it does look like something a little bit dnen look like something a little bit drier, maybe on cards as we drier, maybe on the cards as we go into new years day and temperatures staying a little bit average by by looks bit above average by by looks like things heating up. Like things are heating up. Boxed boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Good afternoon. Its 4 00. Welcome to the show. Im martin dalby of course. This is gb dalby of course. This is gb news. Keep you company for the next two hours. Weve got a cracking show coming up our top story today. Immigration quadrupled under tony blairs terms as Prime Minister. He introduced the human rights act. But new files show history could have been very, very different as this guy contemplated tory style offshore containment in the isle of mull in africa and turkey. The big question is , are turkey. The big question is, are these ideas that keir starmer should or might revisit if he becomes the Prime Minister . Thats our top story. Next, a shocking new report has shown that almost half of all british Police Forces are failing to investigate crime in the most bafic investigate crime in the most basic manner. Investigate crime in the most basic manner. Theyve got the basic manner. Theyve got the ofsted equivalent of special measures in these forces. Ofsted equivalent of special measures in these forces. How on earth did we get to this position . How on earth can we put it right and we will name and shame the worst offender ears. Next up, olympic swimming legend Sharon Davies has once again bravely spoken out about trans athletes, this time in a new report , she says average new report, she says average trans athletes are stealing medals from women. Does she have medals from women. Does she have a point . Or as her critics obviously once again say , is she obviously once again say, is she just a bitter trans phobe . And finally , c r a p parents, are finally, c r a p parents, are they to blame for poor outcomes . This fella james daly, a mp for the conservative party in bury, say , says that as youd imagine, say, says that as youd imagine, his comments have caused much clutching of pearls on the left. But does he have a point or bad parents to blame for a lot of bad outcomes in society . Ill be joined by big tory beast to discuss this. Thats all coming in the next hour. And theres in the next hour. And theres absolutely tons to get stuck into to their trans athletes stealing medals off of women. Stealing medals off of women. What do you make about that . Did blair have a point . Should he have followed some more of these ambitious routes . The tackle asylum and immigration . If only he had , you might say. But what he had, you might say. But what about those poor parents . We hear all the time . Its the governments role. Its the polices role. Its schools role. But what about parents . Are they not pulling their weight . Let us know what you weight . Let us know what you think. All the usual ways gbviews gbnews. Com. Thats all. Come in and your next hour. But first your latest News Headlines with wenzler. With sophia wenzler. Thank you martin. Good afternoon. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. One person has the gb newsroom. One person has died in scotland following an outbreak of e coli. Its after the Uk Health Security Agency confirmed its currently investigating 30 cases across england and scotland to identify any potential links to a brand of cheese. The Food Standards Agency has announced a precautionary recall of four products from mrs. Kirkhams lancashire cheese because of a possible e coli contamination in the family of a man who was killed while trying to save a stranger in sheffield, says the tragic circumstances show the sort of man he was. Chris marriott went to the aid of an unconscious woman when he was hit by a car which had ploughed into a crowd of people on wednesday. Shes in a life threatening condition in hospital. A 23 year old man hospital. A 23 year old man arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder remains in custody , while a 55 year old has custody, while a 55 year old has been released on bail. Witness been released on bail. Witness tarik naili says people were fighting in the street beforehand. They found a lot of people gathering around and screaming, and a car crashed into the sign next door and a lot of , uh, next door and a lot of, uh, fighting over there. I think 6 or 7 people fighting each other, uh, opposite side. And there is uh, opposite side. And there is one guy, uh, in his 20s. Uh, his face is full of blood and one woman lying down, uh, beside. Woman lying down, uh, beside. Two people have been killed following an avalanche in the french alps. Local media is reporting the victims as a british mother and son who were part of a group skiing on mont blanc, authority say another person escaped with minor injuries, while five others were unhurt. At the uk others were unhurt. At the uk could feel close to freezing as the clock strikes midnight on new years eve, with forecast warning of 75 mile an hour winds across parts of england and wales. Meanwhile around 100 homes in Greater Manchester are still dealing with the aftermath of a suspected tornado. More of a suspected tornado. More yellow weather alerts have been issued from 11 00 tomorrow morning. Weatherjournalist morning. Weather journalist nathan rao says the challenging conditions are set to continue into 2024. Now the Uk Met Office has said that the irish met office. Met Office Met Eireann may not name this storm on saturday as storm henk because its coming in a deep, low pressure system from the west across ireland first, which will take the brunt of the winds and then into the United Kingdom where therell be rain some significant hill rain and some significant hill snow in scotland. Because as that storm comes in and bumps up against cold air, that is going to hill snow. Up to bring some hill snow. So up there theyve heavy there where theyve had heavy snow garage snow from, from storm garage already, its something to watch. Have been laid on watch. Flowers have been laid on the bank of the North Yorkshire river in tribute to three men who being trapped in who died after being trapped in a submerged 4x4. A local man who tried to save them says they were swept away as they tried to cross the river esk near glaisdale. Police say the tragic incident was caused by hazardous weather conditions that badly affected the that had badly affected the roads surrounding area. Roads in the surrounding area. Tony blairs government considered sending migrants to a scottish island. Newly released scottish island. Newly released documents have revealed. The proposal was part of a nuclear opfion proposal was part of a Nuclear Option being examined to tackle the asylum issue. In 2003. It would have seen the creation of a camp on the isle of mull with Illegal Migrants being sent there with little or no right to appeal. The scheme also suggested deporting people to regional safe havens turkey, regional safe havens in turkey, kenya and south africa. Rishi kenya and south africa. Rishi sunak condemned president putin after russia launched a massive air attack against ukraine overnight. The Prime Minister says the latest bombardment shows putin will stop at nothing to eradicate freedom and democracy. Officials say 18 democracy. Officials say 18 civilians have been killed and at least 130 injured following a series of attacks on Critical Infrastructure and military facilities. Ukraine says 27 drones and 87 cruise missiles were intercepted in the biggest bombardment since the war began , bombardment since the war began, and a couple have been arrested after spreading fake blood across the gates of downing street. At the man and women street. At the man and women through the paint in protest, demanding a ceasefire in the israel hamas war. They said the government had blood on its hands after refusing to demand israel end its bombing of gaza, calling it a massacre of biblical proportions as both suspects are now in custody and Jack Grealish is expected to play Jack Grealish is expected to play for manchester tomorrow after burglars raided the home of the england midfielder. £1 million worth of jewellery and watches are said to have been stolen while he playing for stolen while he was playing for manchester everton. Manchester city against everton. The footballers family and fiancee were reportedly in the house at the time , but nobody house at the time, but nobody was harmed. No arrests have been made. This is gb news across the made. This is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now its back to. Martin. Now its back to. Martin. Thank you sophia. Now when thank you sophia. Now when i say the isle of mull to you, many of you would assume to imagine beautiful scottish scenery and wildlife. But if tony blairs Labour Government had had its way, it would have been a holding camp for thousands of Asylum Seekers. Well, thats to according newly released official papers. It was part of a plan which would have seen Illegal Migrants put straight back on the plane they arrived on little or arrived on with little or no right. Does that right of appeal. Does that remind you of anything . Yes. Remind you of anything . Yes. History is repeating itself, isnt it . With rwanda and this conservative government. Well, joining us now to discuss this further is gb news political correspondent, olivia utley olivia. And when you look at the data, immigration, quads toppled under blairs government, he introduced the human rights act introduced the human rights act in 1998, which is the bane of anybody trying to deport people to this very day. And add 2. 2 million immigrant came into this country, particularly when blair ianed country, particularly when blair invited the g8 countries in many people , myself included, people, myself included, maintain this was the First Foundation stone for brexit. But history might have been very different. Different. Well, absolutely. The papers revealed today by the National Archives show that some of the most senior advisors and aides around blair were coming up with pretty radical ideas to get a kerb on innovation back in the early 2000. Now, before i go into the details, i should say that theres no evidence that blair actually ever rubber stamped any of these proposals. Stamped any of these proposals. But the documents do show that he was increasingly frustrated with the levels of illegal migration to the uk. And he did migration to the uk. And he did ask his advisors to come up with more radical proposals, as he put it now, they did come up with some radical proposals. One of them, which you mentioned in your introduction there, was detaining migrants on the isle of mull that was taken from the australian playbook. Australians had recently decided to detain Illegal Migrants in one particular area, and it had shown to have a deterrent effect on the number of migrants coming oven on the number of migrants coming over. Another suggestion that was aired by lord powell, now lord powell, then the chief of staff in downing street , was, staff in downing street, was, uh, getting rid of the asylum system, altering either. Im not sure if that was a sort of serious proposal, but he at least questioned the idea that britain even needed have an britain even needed to have an asylum system. Thinking asylum system. The thinking being that given britain is an island and the only way to access it apart from by air, is by sea , and anyone who comes by sea, and anyone who comes over by sea will have, by definition, had to come through a country. There is an a safe country. There is an argument to be made that none of no one who comes by that route has a valid claim to asylum. Another idea was sending migrants to the Falkland Islands that idea has, uh, been has resurfaced a couple of times over the last few years. Scorn is always poured on it, but usually by the left. Who knows what theyll say when they see. Find out that tony blair actually had a similar idea himself, or at least the people very close to him did to me. What all of this shows is just how far the overton window has shifted over the last 20, 30 years. Back in the early 2000, a labour Prime Minister and his closest aides were brainstorming these radical, radical ideas to get a kerb on immigration. 20 years later, ideas which , on the years later, ideas which, on the face of it, are actually less controversial, like the rwanda policy, are really struggling to get through parliament. And some of the more controversial ideas, like circumnavigating the echr legislation in is are only being proposed by the fringe conservative backbenchers. What a shift in just two decades. So , olivia, the big question so, olivia, the big question is, has that overton window shifted enough that the coming leader of the labour party potentially the Prime Minister, sir keir starmer , may he be sir keir starmer, may he be tempted to pull something out of blairs chocolate box . Blairs chocolate box . Well, i would be surprised if he started talking about leaving the echr, but actually i have noficed the echr, but actually i have noticed and other westminster watchers have noticed a shift in tone on immigration from keir starmer in recent months. At the starmer in recent months. At the beginning of the year, he talked about rwanda being a cruel policy. He doesnt say that anymore. He just says that it is anymore. He just says that it is an unworkable policy. And in recent theres been recent weeks theres been another shift. Previously, he has said that rwanda , he would has said that rwanda, he would throw out the rwanda plan even if working now. Now hes if it was working now. Now hes saying that the labour, a Labour Government would consider offshore processing of migrants. Now that is a bit different to the rwanda scheme because under the rwanda scheme because under the rwanda scheme because under the rwanda scheme, migrants would be processed in rwanda. But even if their asylum claims were deemed acceptable, they would not be allowed to return to the uk. They would only be allowed settle rwanda allowed to settle in rwanda offshore is slightly offshore processing is slightly different their claims were different if their claims were accepted, they would be allowed to the uk, but to relocate to the uk, but either way, the very idea of taking migrants who have come to these away and dealing these shores away and dealing with claims elsewhere is with their claims elsewhere is something that perhaps two years ago have seen ago we would not have seen coming from the lips of the labour leader. It be that labour leader. Could it be that he shifting right on he is shifting right on immigration, as polls show time and that it the top and again, that it is the top issue for british people . And lets not forget, hes having these weekly tete a tetes with tony blair himself, so i wouldnt be surprised to see perhaps 1 or 2 of those ideas from the pair play blair playbook coming into the labour 2024 manifesto. Superb olivia utley excellent as ever. Thanks for joining superb olivia utley excellent as ever. Thanks forjoining us as ever. Thanks for joining us from westminster. Well, another fact revealed in the files show that the former Prime Minister blair considered handing back the elgin marbles to greece as part of londons bid to hold the 2012 olympics. And of course, greece was also named as a country which may have held some of those containment centres. So joining me next is the head of policy and campaigns at catch 22, stella santangelo. Thank you for joining 22, stella santangelo. Thank you forjoining us on the show, you for joining us on the show, stella. Always a pleasure. Shall stella. Always a pleasure. Shall we first talk about the elgin marbles recently back in the news, of course, a continuing row over those blair was so keen to hand them back and it seems that keir starmer, the future potential Prime Minister, would be keen to do the same. What do you think is the most likely route this will go . Do you think that you will get the elgin marbles back . Marbles back . I think are a number of i think there are a number of opfions i think there are a number of options on the table. Options on the table. There is obviously the option to lend the marbles back, uh, to the parthenon , Parthenon Museum the parthenon, Parthenon Museum with the intention of returning them eventually. Them eventually. And the most satisfying solution for the greek government, of course, for government, of course, would for be the marbles return for be the marbles to return for good. There is some damage good. But there is some damage that has been done. I believe , that has been done. I believe, in terms this campaign, to in terms of this campaign, to return back because return the marbles back because of , um, the fact that return the marbles back because of, um, the fact that rishi sunak didnt want to meet with the greek Prime Minister. And here in greece, this is something that still talked something that is still talked about, still on the news whenever is mentioned , whenever the uk is mentioned, they the fact that they will mention the fact that they will mention the fact that the Prime Minister was the greek Prime Minister was snubbed by by rishi sunak by the british Prime Minister. And this is very, very disappointing for the greek government and for the greek people. Of course , as far greek people. Of course, as far as keir starmer is concerned, he seems to be in a much more positive. He seems to have a much more positive attitude , uh, much more positive attitude, uh, towards the returning the marbles. So its very good to marbles. So its very good to see that tony blair was also considering doing that. Its very, a very positive. Uh its very, a very positive. Uh its very positive news. Yes okay, stella, but, uh, an idea on the table in the blair files and indeed an idea that labour politicians on this show have told me themselves loves. Is that a potential greek gift . Is that a potential greek gift . Could be, um, thats contained centres. I think weve lost stella. Right i was going to say to her its all fair and well to give a greek gift of the elgin marbles. But something thats on the table. Labour mps have told me on this show and has been mooted and were in the blair files. Of contain files. Is the notion of contain centres for Asylum Seekers in greece . Because of course Greece Greece . Because of course greece is a gateway nation for many of the of the routes in we saw on the of the routes in we saw on the greek islands at the beginning of the migration crisis and around about 2015, um, huge , huge numbers on the um, huge, huge numbers on the greek islands. I think stella is now back with us. Stella, can you hear us . Wonderful. Great. So lets move on. The elgin marbles as a greek gift is one thing, but another idea on the table is the greek gift of potential Asylum Seeker containment centres within greece. For those trying to get to britain, how do you think that would land with the greek population given . I think the greece already has enough, uh, migrants , enough has enough, uh, migrants, enough refugees, enough Asylum Seekers , refugees, enough Asylum Seekers, andifs refugees, enough Asylum Seekers, and its not in an Economic Situation where they would be able to handle them. If im able to handle them. If im perfectly honest, if the uk government wants to write a massive check send it to the massive check and send it to the greek government, im they greek government, im sure they would receive that. Would be happy to receive that. Uh, stands , the greece uh, but as it stands, the greece is already the place where so many refugees pass by. If anything, countries like the uk should be taking more responsibility for more Asylum Seekers from countries like greece. Greece has already been through enough. There are already enough refugees, especially if you go to cities like one from like the one im from thessaloniki , which is in the thessaloniki, which is in the north. Um, there were times where you would see, you could see that the infrastructure could not, could not hold as many refugees who were who were coming on boats. So it does make the complaints from the British Government, if im honest with you, it makes the complaints from the British Government a bit ridiculous. Uh, compared to bit ridiculous. Uh, compared to the amount uh, asylum the amount of, uh, Asylum Seekers and refugees that countries greece and italy countries like greece and italy receive. Now, there are a lot of problems of offshoring is one thing. As olivia said previously, offshoring is one thing. There are a lot of problems with schemes like the one with rwanda, where you actually tell them that they have to stay, stay in the countries where they arrived. Countries where they arrived. These arrive to these refugees who arrive to greece. So they wanted to stay in greece. They probably would. In greece. They probably would. The is there there the problem is that there there is no infrastructure for them. There no for them there there are no jobs for them there. What would they stay there. So what would they stay there. So what would they stay there to do now with the rwanda scheme , there already been £140 scheme, there already been £140 million that have been wasted on this. So it is unworkable. I disagree with the fact that tony, i disagree with the comments that were made earlier about tony blair. Considering this as a viable option. This was the Nuclear Option. This was the most extreme option. They considered it and then they discard because it wasnt. It discard it because it wasnt. It wasnt about sending them to a european country like greece. It was about sending them , uh, to was about sending them, uh, to a scottish island as well. When were talking about rwanda, though, its not the same as greece. Its not a european country. Its not a democratic country. Its not a democratic country. Its not a democratic country. Its also not a country whose asylum system has been tested with the same rigour. The tested with the same rigour. The rwanda, the Rwandan Government has not been tested in the same way. For us to trust that we can way. For us to trust that we can send there people who have gone through perhaps torture, persecution. People who are not persecution. People who are not from that country or that region or that continent, even often people who are sick or who are disabled or who need access to specific health care children. We have we have had cases where children were on the list to be sent to rwanda, and generally people who do not have the chance to appeal the decision because they are not allowed to know that they will be on the list to be sent to rwanda because the government is afraid that people smugglers are going to coach them. Okay, um. Get to coach them. Okay, um. Get away from that. From the list. Away from that. From the list. Okay. Thank you very much. We have to leave it there. Stella tacen. Thank you. Do i think making it very, very clear that the have got quite enough the greek have got quite enough Asylum Seekers their own, and Asylum Seekers of their own, and thats the European Union thats before the European Union get because not get involved, because lets not forget, is eu member forget, greece is an eu member state on an official state now, moving on an official watchdog has found that more than half Police Forces in than half of Police Forces in the uk are failing to investigate crime properly. The report says that forces have misleads that could have solved crimes such as burglaries , crimes such as burglaries, thefts and assaults. You know , thefts and assaults. You know, thefts and assaults. You know, the bread and butter crimes as well as failing to arrive at crime scenes promptly. Well, crime scenes promptly. Well, joining me now to discuss this is norman brennan, former Police Officer and director of law and order. Officer and director of law and order. Norman, this must make your heart sink. The kind of bread and butter beat copper activity that you used to do back in your day. So. Well, now it seems that the basics are being failed and, well, ill be honest and blunt from the off here. Martin. Um the British Police service is broken. Um the Prison Service is broken. Um the Prison Service is broken. Service is broken. An the Probation Service is broken. Prisons are broken in the criminal Justice System is not fit for purpose. And policing we used to call it the thin blue line because there was never millions of us. But there was enough of us to hold that line. And people saw the blue line today. They that blue line is the invisible blue line front line officers cannot cope. Line officers cannot cope. Most shifts across every single force in britain, including the metropolitan police, can barely put minimum manpower together. Officers are chasing their tails. Theyre like fire brigade policing. Its from one emergency to the next to the next. Theyre pulled away. Theyre pulled in on rest days. Theyve got demonstration days to deal with Mental Health issues to deal with hundreds of officers are off sick with stress. Officers are off sick with stress. Hundreds of officers are off sick with stress. Hundreds of officers are stress. Hundreds of officers are on leave or working in the station on restricted duties because, god forbid, theyve actually done some of these officers what the public want. Theyve got involved in a stop and search thats gone contrary. Contrary. Herschel. Herschel. And im speaking to officers. And im speaking to officers. Martin, this is how bad and how frustrating it is. And i see big picture. And i see the big picture. These officers are facing being at home for 2 or 3 christmases, having already been cleared by their own force. Their own force. But the independent office of Police Conduct insists on on their discipline. These officers are broken and are. Finish off this segment, martin. By this 13 years ago, under theresa may the Police Service were crippled. 22,000 frontline officers were taken off of the streets , were taken off of the streets, tens of thousands of backroom staff were removed to save money. Hundreds of police stations were closed. The few officers were asked to do more and cover the back room staff. And do you know what happened . Martin . Martin . The criminal element took over the streets and we have not been able to take them back. And that is why everybody in britain looks on the streets rarely sees a Police Officer, makes a call, rarely gets an officer and has their crime investigated. And if they think investigated. And if they think theyre frustrated , im speaking theyre frustrated, im speaking to you on behalf of 10,000 of front line officers that are just frustrated so much so martin, out the 20,000 officers that have just been recruited over 4500 of already resigned and many more looking at going, thats this side of the picture. Okay. Norman brennan, as even okay. Norman brennan, as ever, straight to the point. Shooting from the hip. Thank you so much forjoining us on gb news. Excellent stuff. If sobering. Now coming up, news. Excellent stuff. If sobering. Now coming up, ill have the latest for you on sharon davis as the former olympian says, mediocre trans athletes are stealing medals from women. Im Martin Daubney on gb news, britains news channel. Isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930. Welcome back. 427 youre watching or listening to Martin Daubney on gb news. Now fergie has made a shock royal return, which has sparked questions about meghan and harry. But before we discuss that, former olympic swimmer Sharron Davies has once again made her opinions clear as a bell when it comes to trans issues. After saying that mediocre trans athletes are stealing medals from women and these comments come following a report from the policy exchange, which said that fairness and safety of grassroots sport was being compromised by allowing transgender people biological men, mostly to compete. Well, joining me now to discuss this is transgender teacher and journalist debbie. Hayton. Journalist debbie. Hayton. Debbie, its always a pleasure to have you on the show. So Sharron Davies is speaking common sense, some might say based facts. But of course, based upon facts. But of course, some people will say shes being transphobic. Whats your take . Transphobic. Whats your take . Well, first of all, i think we should just make the point that Sharron Davies is absolutely right, as is daley thompson, as is martina navratilova. There separate navratilova. There are separate categories for women to ensure fairness in sport, and we dont operate those classes on the bafis operate those classes on the basis of feelings. Operate those classes on the basis of feelings. We base them basis of feelings. We base them on the basis of facts and in sport and in sport. Biology is a fact. So this is the truth that weve got to work with. I dont think sharon Sharron Davies has been at all transphobic. Uh, been at all transphobic. Uh, what what trans people need to be looking at. I think is not seeking places in other peoples competitions , but looking for competitions, but looking for fairness in our own and looking for inclusion in our own. So, for inclusion in our own. So, for inclusion in our own. So, for example, if i was a if i was doing a parkrun , i would put an doing a parkrun, i would put an m down on the form. It doesnt take it doesnt it doesnt take away anything from my performance whatsoever. At performance whatsoever. That at all. Uh, in other in other situations , if i was playing situations, if i was playing competitive sport, for example, i might not want to change with change with men. So im perhaps be looking for a special dispensation there. But this is this is different. This dispensation there. But this is this is different. This is dispensation there. But this is this is different. This is what trans rights is all about. Trans rights should not be about taking rights from other people. Taking rights from other people. Its so refreshing to hear that opinion. You know, thank that opinion. You know, thank thank you so much, debbie, for saying lets look at saying that. And lets look at some those facts as you said, some of those facts as you said, which placed before which should be placed before feelings. Female of which should be placed before feellondon female of which should be placed before feelLondon Marathon of which should be placed before feelLondon Marathon would of which should be placed before feelLondon Marathon would be the London Marathon would be beaten by the man who came 231st. And heres another one for you in county athletic. The for you in county athletic. The winning man from the slowest county running at 1500m, would beat the winning women in 27 out of 33 counties. Counties we must admit, on the basis of that evidence, debbie, that biological men simply have an advantage and therefore, Sharron Davies is right. This advantage and therefore, Sharron Davies is right. This is unfair. Davies is right. This is unfair. Yes. And Everybody Knows that biological men have got an advantage over biological women. We know these things and weve always known them. But weve always known them. But whats been said is that people can identify into a category thats not theirs. Also in sport , they keep different, different categories for age groups. So if i suddenly decided to identify as 85, uh, nobody is going to stop me doing that. But on the other hand, i shouldnt be able to identify into a into a category for the over 85 and probably win it. And this is whats been happening with womens sport. And do you think , um, lets and do you think, um, lets be optimistic here, debbie , for be optimistic here, debbie, for a new year ahead, do you think this kind of common sense opinion that youre issuing here will hold . Weve will start to take hold . Weve seen lord coe in the olympics saying enough is enough. Do you think pushback think that the pushback will begin in earnest in 2024 . Well, i think i think the pushback has already begun. Uh, last year we had groups such as world athletics , we had swim world athletics, we had swim england, we had the International Cricket council coming down with common sense policies , uh, other sporting policies, uh, other sporting bodies are a bit slower to take heed to this, but their position is indefensible. To say that you can identify into the sex category which you were, which you wish. Just makes those sex categories totally meaningless. Categories totally meaningless. Superb transgender teacher and journalist Debbie Hayton refreshing common sense. Thank you so much forjoining us. Have a great festive period and a happy new year. Its brilliant. Cheers okay, coming up well be discussing Sarah Fergusons return to the royal family and whether harry and whether this means harry and meghan could follow next. We all live in hope. But first, theres your latest News Headlines with sophia wenzler. Thank you martin, its 431. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. One person has died in scotland following an outbreak of e coli. Its after the Uk Health Security Agency confirmed its currently investigating 30 cases across england and scotland to identify any potential links to a brand of cheese. The Food Standards Agency has announced a precautionary recall of four products from mrs. Kirkhams, lancashire cheese because of possible e coli contamination. Possible e coli contamination. An avalanche in the french alps has killed two people. French media is reporting the victims as a british mother and a son, who were part of a group skiing on mont blanc, authorities confirmed there were two deaths, adding one person escaped with minor injuries as five others were unhurt. The government has were unhurt. The government has promised to send around 200 air defence missiles to ukraine. Soon after russia launched one of its biggest air attacks since the war began, rishi sunak has condemned the russian president for the latest bombardment, saying putin will stop at nothing to eradicate freedom and democracy. Officials say at democracy. Officials say at least 18 were killed and more than 130 wounded here in the uk. Rivers in tewkesbury have burst their banks and heavy rain dunng their banks and heavy rain during storm garrett. The met office is warning gusts of up to 75 miles an hour could hit parts of the south of england and wales tomorrow as another storm approaches. Yellow weather approaches. Yellow weather alerts have been issued from 11 00 in the morning until new years eve , and flowers have years eve, and flowers have been laid on the bank of the nonh been laid on the bank of the North Yorkshire river in tribute to three men who died after being trapped in a submerged 4x4. A local man who tried to save them says they were swept away as they tried to cross the river esk near glaisdale. Police say the tragic incident was caused by hazardous weather conditions that had badly affected the roads in the surrounding area , and you can surrounding area, and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gb news. Com. Thank you sophia. Great stuff. Now the duchess of york, Sarah Ferguson , returned to ferguson, returned to sandringham for the royal familys christmas celebrations for the first time in 32 years and following the christmas service, she then joined the king and queen on their walkabout at and her reintroduction to the family has sparked discussions as to whether there may be an opportunity for meghan and harry to rejoin the royal fold. Well, to rejoin the royal fold. Well, to rejoin the royal fold. Well, to discuss this is the former bbc royal correspondent, the legendary michael cole. Michael its always a pleasure to have you on the show, especially at this festive time of year. Hope spnngs this festive time of year. Hope springs eternal. Um, but would it be a step too far . More than it be a step too far . More than even a miracle at christmas, following fergie for the sussexes to be welcomed back to the royal flock . Yeah , martin. Yeah, martin. Yeah, martin. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. The compliments of the season to you. To you. Um, the cases are very, very different. The indiscretions of sarah, duchess of york were appalling. Duchess of york were appalling. Indeed. They were scandalous. Indeed. They were scandalous. But one thing fergie never, ever did was to attack the institution of monarchy. The royal family or the people within it. When we turn to california to the duke and duchess of sussex, thatis the duke and duchess of sussex, that is precisely what they have done. You will remember at the start of this year in january, uh, the dukes, uh, ghostwritten autobiography, spare, came out. It said some very cruel disobliging things about his brother and his sister in law, kate. Now, the princess of kate. Now, the princess of wales. And then at the end of the year, we had the book end game by omid scobie , which game by omid scobie, which accused catherine and the king of being racists and indeed called into question the very existence and future of the house of windsor and the monarchy. Now the duke and duchess of sussex could quite easily have distanced themselves from that book. And to have denied the value of its contents. But they didnt, and their silence spoke volumes. So theres a huge difference here. Now what has happened in the case of sarah is that she stayed loyal to her husband, even in the depths of his despair over his disastrous friendship with the convicted late paedophile jeffrey epstein. She was on his side and she said hes a good man and that played very well with her majesty the queen. The late queen anne. And in a rare acknowledgement of her loyalty , acknowledgement of her loyalty, the late queen did say that in due course, when fergie the duchess there , we see her when duchess there, we see her when she dies. We hope thats not she dies. We hope thats not soon. Shes 64 at the moment, but when she dies, she may be buned but when she dies, she may be buried in frogmore, which is the private royal family burial ground. So there could not be, uh, a firmer or more welcome acknowledgement that she has regained her place in the royal family. Its been 30 years, as you say. For 30 years she was you say. For 30 years she was forbidden to, uh, get a turn up at any royal event. And if the duke of edinburgh was in a room, she was forbidden to enter it. And even in recent years , after and even in recent years, after his death, she was banished to wood farm at sandringham. But wood farm at sandringham. But this year we saw her walking alone, looking slightly , uh, alone, looking slightly, uh, unsure of herself. Didnt know quite what the reception would be, but you know , christmas is be, but you know, christmas is a time for our families to get together. Although the memo hasnt gone through to california and to for countries in for forgiveness and for togetherness. And i think its togetherness. And i think its togetherness. And i think its to the kings great credit that he can find it in his heart to forgive his ex sister in law. Uh sister in law for the very simple reason that he , she, uh, simple reason that he, she, uh, has got a big heart. You can see that the way he is with his family, hes demonstrating love in a way that perhaps he didnt get as an infant. As a child himself. And hes welcomed her back. And hes welcomed her back. And hes welcomed her back. And hes welcomed her back. And its now up to the duchess, who i knew quite well at the time of her marriage. And so on. On her first royal tours, shes now got to win round. Perhaps the more doubting members of the royal family and michael, what about the Public Attitude towards fergie . Shes always been seen as somebody were quite fond of. Do you think that will be an easy transition . Shes eccentric. Transition . Shes eccentric. Sometimes mad as a box of frogs has to be said, but shes been loyal and shes been rewarded with that law. So do you think the public will take to her quite swiftly . Quite swiftly . Yeah, well, i did the first interview she ever did on tv vision in company with, um, Anthony Carthew of itn. We, we interviewed them on the morning of their engagement in 1986. There was huddled up together on the sofa clapping each others jokes. Ive never seen two people more loved up in my life. And of course, at the my life. And of course, at the wedding itself in july, the crowds outside Buckingham Palace didnt have to shout out kiss , didnt have to shout out kiss, kiss, because the duke and kiss, kiss because the duke and duchess gave each other a great smack. And i went on their royal tours. They were then regarded as a breath of fresh air, im afraid. Uh, fergie couldnt ever see the top without going over it. And she did some appalling things. I it. And she did some appalling things. I mean, she did, uh , but things. I mean, she did, uh, but the human heart has an immense capacity for forgiveness. And i think advised very closely by queen camilla, whos been through her own slough of despond and having been attacked and vilified as the most hated woman in britain. And vilified as the most hated woman in britain. I and vilified as the most hated woman in britain. I think that woman in britain. I think that has been important. She has has been important. She has found fergie has found in camilla, uh, a supporter and somebody from a similar background who has had similar experiences and that is weighed with the king. And im sure because of that , hes welcomed because of that, hes welcomed her back after all, you know, we only have one life. Uh, and, uh, forgiveness is a great thing. And im glad to see that because fergie is not a bad person. She fergie is not a bad person. She was just unwise in some of the things shes done. Okay. Michael cole was always okay. Michael cole was always a tremendous pleasure to speak to you. Enjoy the rest of your festive period and have a peaceful prosperous year peaceful and prosperous new year. That okay, theres. I love that guy. Okay, theres lots more still to come between now including are now and 5 00, including are parents to blame for crappy kids . Well, thats the view of tory mp james daly. Hes discussed the importance of the family unit making the case for working class concerns. Um, working class concerns. Um, well discuss in that hot topic later. Dont go anywhere sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is. Welcome news is. Welcome back. 445 now. Tory mp james daly has said that most children who struggle in his constituency are the product of crappy parents. They discuss the importance of stability that is offered by the family unit and made the case for working class conservatism. But are bad parents really to blame . Well, im delighted to be blame . Well, im delighted to be joined now by conservative mp and former Education Minister Dame Andrea Jenkyns. Looking very, very festive. Youve even very, very festive. Youve even got boris above your tree. The angel atop your tree. Angel atop your tree. Actually my dad, you know, a few people say that, but its actually my late dad. Actually my late dad. Yeah. Yeah. Beg your pardon . Now, then, the funny thing about about these of course. These comments. Of course. Andrea are those on the left are clutching their pearls. Heres a funny. I listened to a funny thing. I listened to a phonein funny thing. I listened to a phone in show with david lammy on my way in on a far inferior media channel. And guess what . Even most of his callers agreed with james daly. Most people out there are sick and tired of bad parents producing bad children who give bad outcomes and create bad communities. Who give bad outcomes and create bad communities. And somehow it bad communities. And somehow it always seems to be the states or the polices or the schools responsibility to pick up the pieces. Do you think james dalys got a point . Dalys got a point . Um, i do. I mean , i wouldnt um, i do. I mean, i wouldnt have labelled it in that, um, crappy word as you just spelt out. Um, but i mean, looking at my own constituency , you know, they own constituency, you know, they work really hard. Work really hard. Theres a, you know, the vast majority work really hard, and they want the best for the children. A parent n children. A parent i want as a parent myself, i want the best for my six year old. But you do get a section of society who expect everything handed on a plate. Handed on a plate. And to me, thats what socialism is about. You know, they expect thats why they vote for the labour party. The, um, people like this party. The, um, people like this. And think i mean,. And i think that, i mean, i oppose the sugar tax. When i was , i was the only person on the Health Select committee back in 2015, it because 2015, 2016 to oppose it because i should be parental responsibility. And i dont believe in a nanny state. I think that, you know, a better parental responsibility if you have children , you should, you know, children, you should, you know, invest time in them and put them first. And its funny because of course, lee anderson has said previously about people arent learning to cook correctly. He was right on that. He was lambasted for that. And also in mansfield, ben bradley talked about Free School Vouchers being used in inappropriate ways. He was also right on that. I want to talk to you about how important groups like the new conservatives are to represent the blue collar conservatives , the blue collar conservatives, because it seems to me that you lot talk a lot common sense. Lot talk a lot common sense. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, im not aligned to, um, necessarily any of these groups. Groups. Im not a member myself, but l, im not a member myself, but i, i completely agree, and it is just common sense, as you said, really, an and i mean, i was broke up. My dad was a lorry driver. He then ran his own business and i was brought up in that conservative household. My mum conservative household. My mum was housewife, which was a housewife, which used to really look after us. And then was a housewife, which used to realset ok after us. And then was a housewife, which used to real set ok herzr us. And then was a housewife, which used to real set ok her own and then was a housewife, which used to real set ok her own shop. Then was a housewife, which used to real set ok her own shop. But she set up her own shop. But its about working hard. Its not from in life, not where you come from in life, its do life and its what you do in life and what you contribute, what m atters. Matters. And i think this ethos is, is really about conservatism really all about conservatism and state which and not the nanny state which labour promote. Now were ahead to now were looking ahead to a general which could be general election, which could be bruising. Be honest. You bruising. Lets be honest. You oh no , lets try and get andrea oh no, lets try and get andrea back because i want to ask her the big question later on in this show. Were looking ahead to who should be the next leader of the conservative party because a new piece of analysis is out by electoral calculus , is out by electoral calculus, looking at the margin of conservative defeat, andrea is back. Im so glad shes back. I want to ask her this question. Andrea, are you there . Yes, i am let there be light. Theres a storm going on here. Hence why i keep losing my signal. Okay, well, just about to ask you. Were looking ahead later on show. So, um, a piece on in the show. So, um, a piece of research has out from of research has come out from electoral looking at electoral calculus looking at the of the margin, potentially, of a conservative defeat. And the people who will be left behind with a view to them being the next leader the conservative next leader of the conservative party. The smart money to party. The smart money seems to be people like Kemi Badenoch be on people like Kemi Badenoch or Suella Braverman. Im going to ask you direct lightly, andrea, who would you like to be the next leader the the next leader of the conservative party well, certainly kemi well, certainly not Kemi Badenoch, fellow badenoch, because i mean fellow mps tell me that her nickname is a great pretender. She out shes a centre a great pretender. Siconservative. Shes a centre a great pretender. Siconservative. Buts a centre a great pretender. Siconservative. But ifa centre a great pretender. Siconservative. But if you ntre right conservative. But if you look at her voting record and what she votes for, she voted for all theresa mays deal. Shes it says on the shes not what it says on the tin. So, um, pretty suella. You know, jacob, you know any of the centre, right . True conservatives for me. Um, then on um, but i think the centre right, we need to unite behind one person. Um, otherwise well just get an heir to rishi. And do you think that the conservative party, in terms of its direction of travel, needs to go through a bit of a rebirth . Lot of people have . Because a lot of people have been saying since brexit, andrea, that ostensibly the tory party within one, party is two parties within one, the liberal side and the more conservative side. We need to conservative side. Do we need to see conservative see a more conservative conservative party win back conservative party to win back the trust of the electorate . The trust of the electorate . I mean, like me, i know that you liked thatcher, but even joe and thatcher years look how, um, it was two parties within the party. Its the same with the labour party. Um, and its like a coalition of ideas of the, the centrist and the centre right. Um, but i mean, i would like to see us get back to basics, get back to common sense policies. And, um, i think i might have lost my signal again. There um, and also, id like to see us get and also, id like to see us get a leader before the next general election. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well thats superb. Thanks for joining us on the show. Dame forjoining us on the show. Dame Andrea Jenkins. And have a great festive period and a very festive period and a very festive and happy peaceful festive and happy and peaceful new forjoining us new year. Thanks for joining us on show. Thank you. Well on the show. Thank you. Well there we have it. So, um, that Kemi Badenoch the great pretender as Dame Andrea Jenkins said there, but i think we all do agree. Im ofsted simply that the party needs to rediscover its conservative roots. We talk its conservative roots. We talk all the time about the spirit of maggie thatcher, but who is that person . Is there anybody out there . Is there anybody out there . Is there anybody out there who can revisit that spirit of conservatism . Well, weve got a few emails coming through now. Lots youve been getting in touch with your thoughts on that spat between nigel farage and James Cleverly, because, of course, nigel called cleverly a moron. And i asked you if that was appropriate or not because it was quite fruity. Language even by nigels rather fruity standards. John says this fruity standards. John says this , i suppose calamity cleverly will say he puts something in the water to stop the boats crossing over, not the bad weather. I dont think even he would stretch it that far, john, but the fact of the matter is, there were zero crossings in ten days over christmas. For the First Time Since the recording of boats began and that of small boats began and that was in 2018. Its been proven that there were 55 mile an hour gusts of wind. It was always over 25 miles an hour and a small dinghy. Any small craft would not set sail in that. Even would not set sail in that. Even the craziest of human traffickers would not go that far. Yet cleverly put that tweet far. Yet cleverly put that tweet out , far. Yet cleverly put that tweet out, claiming, i dont know that it was the governments well done message and thats caused a huge amount of backlash. John huge amount of backlash. John says this nigel is only saying what the majority think of cleverly. The tag applies to most of the government mini utters the word moron is the one that kind of stuck in the craw of some. It has to be said. Ive spent a lot of time today looking at the comments sections in all of the conservative media and amounts of people and the huge amounts of people out seem to agree with out there seem to agree with nigel. Theyve had enough of the direction of travel, they had enough of the empty promises. Direction of travel, they had enough of the empty promises. As enough of the empty promises. As claire says, this nigel may have been harsh in his words , but it been harsh in his words, but it captures what the British Public is feeling. This government is all talk, talk, talk and we want to see some action. Thats exactly what i was just saying to to, you there, claire. People want to see action. Theyve been promised. Take back control of our borders. And every election since 2010, 13 years later, we have 745,000 coming through the front door via legal migration and 50,000 illegal via small boats. The final word this hour goes to ben cleverly should focus less on posture and more on manoeuvres. Get us out of the echr and stop the boats. Well, echr and stop the boats. Well, if only it were that simple. And weve seen today this debate raging again. The blair fires, which will have more in the next houn which will have more in the next hour. Even tony blair was considering offshore container on the isle of mull in turkey , on the isle of mull in turkey, in africa. These are ideas now that are seen as far, right, far out ideas. Ideas that blair, the europhile , the open borders, europhile, the open borders, refugees welcome father figure. Refugees welcome father figure. Even he was looking at those ideas back in the 90s. He didnt put those ideas into action. We saw 2. 2 million come in under blairs governance. And, you know, if they had only gone down the route of employing some of those ideas, we wouldnt have had that huge influx, particularly when the g8 were allowed in and britains fabric was changed forever. In my opinion, laying the Foundation Stones of brexit. And well be discussing that in much more detail in the next hour. Loads more coming up. Im Martin Daubney on gb news. Please stick with us. Its going to be a cracker right after this. Cracker right after this. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again im alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. Its going to stay pretty unsettled as we go through the end of the year, with some heavy rain and strong winds to come through the last few 2023. Thats because few days of 2023. Thats because low far low pressure is never too far away. There is a deep area of away. There is a deep area of low pressure currently out in the atlantic, which is heading towards us, but at moment towards us, but at the moment were an were under the influence of an area pressure the area of low pressure towards the north east uk , which has north east of the uk, which has brought winds today brought the blustery winds today and will continue to bring strong and some heavy strong winds and some heavy outbreaks of rain across parts of northeast scotland through outbreaks of rain across parts of rnightast scotland through outbreaks of rain across parts of rnight. ;t scotland through outbreaks of rain across parts of rnight. Elsewhere, through outbreaks of rain across parts of rnight. Elsewhere, weyugh outbreaks of rain across parts of rnight. Elsewhere, we will the night. Elsewhere, we will see the showers dying see many of the showers dying out, clear skies for out, so some clear skies for a time before heavy rain time before some heavy rain pushes from the west, pushes its way in from the west, where have the clear skies where we have the clear skies through tonight. Temperatures where we have the clear skies thrcgoing night. Temperatures where we have the clear skies thrcgoing night. Tcouldatures where we have the clear skies thrcgoing night. Tcould falles are going to drop, could fall several below freezing several degrees below freezing across scotland, so across parts of scotland, so a harsh likely here. Harsh frost likely here. Elsewhere as we go through saturday, a spell of heavy rain pushing way east and north pushing its way east and north eastwards across the country. Eastwards across the country. This is to bring some this is going to bring some strong and also some strong winds and also some significant snow across parts of scotland. It makes its way scotland. As it makes its way across, we could see more than ten centimetres, perhaps , it ten centimetres, perhaps, so it could disruption in could cause some disruption in the north. It is going to a the north. It is going to be a cold day further south, mild for the year, not the time of year, but not necessarily it in the necessarily feeling it in the wet and windy weather into new years eve. It going to years eve. And it is going to be blustery, showery day. Some be a blustery, showery day. Some of those showers will heavy of those showers will be heavy at strong at times and strong winds, particularly with particularly in the south, with gales possibly severe gales, possibly even severe gales, possibly even severe gales of us it does gales for some of us it does look like something a little bit dnen look like something a little bit drier, maybe on the cards as we go into new years day and temperatures staying a little bit average by looks bit above average by by looks like things are heating up. Box spoilers, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good afternoon. Its 5 00. Welcome to the show with me. Martin daubney on gb news keeping you company for the next action. Packed hour. Our top story today under tony blairs governance, immigration to britain. Quadro toppled to 2. 2 million. He also introduced the human rights act in 1998, which to this day prevents us from deporting even terrorists. But a new file shows things that have been very , very different. Been very, very different. Blairs advisers were saying, what about offshore containment . What about sending Asylum Seekers to the isle of mull or to turkey , or even to africa . To turkey, or even to africa . Ideas that maybe the tories, or perhaps even keir starmer should think about adopting in this day and age. Next story london mayor sadiq khan has come out with a new report , which he claims new report, which he claims proves that his ulez scheme has reduced pollution in the capital to the equivalent amount of the pollution belched out by all of londons. Airports. Ill be londons. Airports. Ill be joined by howard cox to talk to you about why khans claims are plain crazy. Next story who plain crazy. Next story who should be the next leader of the conservative party . A piece of research out today shows that depending on the margin of defeat , if the tories do lose defeat, if the tories do lose the next election , leaders like the next election, leaders like Kemi Badenoch and Suella Braverman, who are in safe seats, will be well placed to take over the party. But who get your vote, who should lead the tories after the next general election . That is the big talking point. Drop me your views on that one. And finally , views on that one. And finally, which politician would you most like . A pint with . Poor old Zac Goldsmith here using two hands on that pint glass is an image he never quite got over. Theres he never quite got over. Theres been a piece of research in france to show that people would rather drink with the mayor of lahore than emmanuel macron, but who would you like to have a pint with and why . And what would you talk to them about . Let know whos the pint let me know whos the pint politician in your eye. All of that coming up in the next hour. So who should lead the conservatives a short while ago, ispoke conservatives a short while ago, i spoke to Dame Andrea Jenkyns and i asked her, well, what about Kemi Badenoch . She said, about Kemi Badenoch . She said, kemi is the great pretender. She comes out with the right wing ideas but actually voted for theresa mays brexit. Shes more of a centrist. She doesnt think so. She mentioned priti patel, so. She mentioned priti patel, Suella Braverman who should lead the tories into to the next wave of their future. Let me know of their future. Let me know your views and the usual ways. Gb views at gb news. Com loads coming in the next hour. All of that after your latest news headunes that after your latest News Headlines with sophia wenzler. Thank you martin. Good afternoon. Its 5 02. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. Wenzler in the gb newsroom. First, some breaking news. Poland says a Russian Missile likely entered its airspace. Likely entered its airspace. According to the head of the poush according to the head of the polish armed forces, both poland and natos radar system spotted and natos radar system spotted an unidentified aerial object over the countrys territory. Natos secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, says the military alliance stands in solidarity with poland and that it remains vigilant. With poland and that it remains vigilant. Its with poland and that it remains vigilant. Its understood groups vigilant. Its understood groups of soldiers are performing on the ground verification of the missiles flight path. Here in missiles flight path. Here in the uk, the government has promised to send around 200 air defence missiles to ukraine after russia launched a massive air attack overnight. It comes air attack overnight. It comes as rishi sunak condemned the russian president for the latest bombardment, saying putin will stop at nothing to eradicate freedom and democracy. Officials say 31 civilians have been killed and at least 120 injured following a series of attacks on Critical Infrastructure and military facilities. Ukraine military facilities. Ukraine says 27 drones and 87 cruise missiles were intercepted in the biggest bombardment since the war began. One person has died war began. One person has died in scotland following an outbreak of e coli. Its after the uk Health Secretary agency confirmed its currently investigating 30 cases across england and scotland to identify any potential links to a brand of cheese. The Food Standards Agency has announced a precautionary recall of four products from mrs. Kirkhams lancashire cheese because of possible e coli contamination. Possible e coli contamination. The family of a man who was killed while trying to save a stranger in sheffield, says the tragic circumstance forces show the sort of man he was. Chris the sort of man he was. Chris marriott went to the aid of an unconscious woman when he was hit by a car which had ploughed into a crowd of people on wednesday. Shes in a life threatening condition in hospital. A 23 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder , and murder and attempted murder, and remains while a 55 remains in custody while a 55 year old has been released on bail. Witness tariq naili says people were fighting in the streets beforehand. I found a lot of people gathering around and screaming and a car crashed into the sign next door and a lot of, uh , next door and a lot of, uh, fighting over there. I think 6 or 7 people fighting each other , or 7 people fighting each other, uh, opposite side. And there is uh, opposite side. And there is one guy, uh, in his 20s. Uh his face is full of blood and one woman lying down, uh, beside. Woman lying down, uh, beside. Two people have been killed following an avalanche in the french alps. Local media is reporting the victims as a british mother and a son who were part of a group skiing on mont blanc. Authorities say another person escaped with minor injuries, while five others were unhurt. While five others were unhurt. The uk could feel close to freezing as the clock strikes midnight on new years eve, with forecasters warning of 75 mile an hour winds across parts of england and wales. Meanwhile around 100 homes in Greater Manchester are still dealing with the aftermath of a suspected tornado. More yellow suspected tornado. More yellow weather alerts have been issued from 11 00 tomorrow morning. Weather journalist nathan rao weatherjournalist nathan rao says the challenging conditions are set to continue into 2024. Now the Uk Met Office has said that the irish met office. Met office. Met eireann might name this storm on saturday as storm henk because its coming in a deep, low pressure system from the west across ireland first, which will take the brunt of the winds and then into the United Kingdom where therell be rain some significant hill rain and some significant hill snow in scotland. Because as that storm comes in and bumps up against air, that is going against cold air, that is going to snow. So up to bring some hill snow. So up there heavy there where theyve had heavy snow from garage snow from, from storm garage already, to watch i a a couple have been arrested after spreading fake blood across the gates of downing street. The man and across the gates of downing street. The man and women across the gates of downing street. The man and women threw street. The man and women threw the paint in protest, demanding a ceasefire in the israel hamas war. They said the government had blood on its hands after refusing to demand israel end its bombing of gaza , calling it its bombing of gaza, calling it a massacre of biblical proportions. Both suspects are now in custody. And jack now in custody. And Jack Grealish is expected to play for Manchester City tomorrow after burglars raided the home of the england midfielder. A Million Pounds worth of jewellery and watches are said to have been stolen. While he was playing for manchester against everton. Manchester city against everton. The footballers family and fiancee were reportedly in the house at the time, but nobody was harmed and no arrests have been made. This is gb news been made. This is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now its back to. Martin. Thank you sophia. Lets get cracking in this hour , the isle cracking in this hour, the isle of mull on the west coast of scotland is a favourite hotspot for tourists and birdwatchers. But if tony blairs Labour Government had had its way and hed listened to his advisers , hed listened to his advisers, it would have been a holding camp for thousands asylum camp for thousands of Asylum Seekers. And thats according to seekers. And thats according to newly released papers. Official newly released papers. Official papers out today. It was part of a plan which would have seen illegal put straight Illegal Migrants put straight back on the plane if they arrived with little or right arrived with little or no right of appeal to the uk. Well joining me now to discuss this, a former special adviser to michael gove, Charlie Rowley and immigration lawyer Hardeep Singh gill. Thanks, chaps for joining us. Charlie, lets start with you, charlie. So these kind of ideas , i assume these days ideas, i assume these days theyd be called far right, seem like common sense ideas now. The kind of ideas , actually, that kind of ideas, actually, that the conservative party should be adopting now. And if only tony blair had instead , we saw blair had instead, we saw immigration quadruple under his watch, 2. 2 Million People came in. The big question is, was blair right . Did he have a point . Should the conservatives have gone down the route of the isle of mull , not gone down the route of the isle of mull, not rwanda, in the first place . Well , good afternoon, martin, well, good afternoon, martin, and look , tony blair certainly and look, tony blair certainly had a point. Had a point. Obviously, when you see the scribbles that he was making on those notes, these were drawn up by a very, very Senior Adviser , by a very, very Senior Adviser, jonathan powell, who was effectively his chief of staff. Effectively his chief of staff. And whats telling is that obviously these were plans that even though they were described the Nuclear Option on, uh, they were plans that obviously had to be considered within, uh, the government at the time , plans government at the time, plans that are quite similarly brought forward now by this conservative government. And the only difference is that the fact that it was being considered 20 years ago and only now has it only been adopted by a government, shows you that just over that 20 year where there have year period where there have been two parties that have been in power under time, in power under that time, conservatives and labour conservatives and the labour and a i should three a coalition, i should add three different governments. There um, that has got that the problem has only got worse. So actually gives worse. So it actually gives rishi sunak, i think, a lot of leeway here to now go back to the country to say, look, this was an idea that under tony blair, he was thinking about this. Years passed this. But 20 years has passed where has been failure where there has been a failure in our immigration system. In our immigration system. So thats absolutely thats why he was absolutely right down on his right to double down on his rwanda scheme. Look rwanda scheme. And he can look forward mps supporting forward to labour mps supporting him. When the him. I think when the legislation comes back in the new year. Okay, holger, turning to you now , if i could, in terms of the now, if i could, in terms of the legality of this, because lest we forget, tony blair also introduced the rights act introduced the human rights act introduced the human rights act in which is the bane of in 1998, which is the bane of people to this day attempting to deport people, including terrorists, but would the loophole of the isle of mull or the falklands , which has also the falklands, which has also been mooted . Would that have got been mooted . Would that have got around this barrier of deportation to a so called safe country . If those spaces were actually British Sovereign territory legally , could blairs territory legally, could blairs plan have got off the ground and, um, i think theres definitely some substance in it. The labour detained people all the time. So theres Detention Centres have been used under laboun centres have been used under labour, and labour actually had the fast track system at harmondsworth Detention Centre, where they used to process claims , um, within 15 days that claims, um, within 15 days that was scrapped under the conservatives. Um, so processing was a lot faster under labour. Labour also did send back 60,000 people a year as opposed to three 4000, which is what the conservatives are sending back currently. So labours plans on immigration were actually a lot tougher than what people say. Tougher than what people say. But yet our jersey was another island , which was mooted as well island, which was mooted as well as being used. However, the um, the inhabitants of the islands, uh, rejected it. But theres uh, rejected it. But theres definitely a scheme that possibly could be workable there. I dont think the human rights act really does prevent deportations in a way, because, um, labour was still sending back, like i said, in 2010, 60,000 people, despite the human rights act having been in for 12 years. Um, in that and so that didnt prevent labour from sending people. What does sending back people. What does what we really need to look at is to process claims a lot quicker. I mean, holding 50,000 people on an island, but youre going to take two to going to take two years to process a claim. Its still not viable. Is that is that a good point there, charlie . Because i there, charlie . Because i haljarp often makes that point, that the legislation, the framework that the echr can be ignored , it can be overwritten ignored, it can be overwritten here. You, martin, by by british politicians. Charlie and also the human rights act can be swept aside. Blairs government did it. And yet weve seen successfully under the conservative government that hasnt been put into action. So is this more a case now of a lack of political will to get tough . Tough . Im not entirely sure it is because , um, on the documents because, um, on the documents that have been released today, obviously. Um, uh, tony blair, um, was scribbling his exasperation with the echr and saying we would need to reform it if they were going to block it. So he, he, he himself, i think, knows the, the, the run up that he would have had uh, against uh, strasbourg and the european courts at the time. And he was as, as frustrated clearly about the idea that those institutions as we would be able to block those deportations or to block the policies that he wanted, uh , the policies that he wanted, uh, uh, you know, just as this current government is frustrated and most people , i think, share and most people, i think, share that particular view. I mean, i that particular view. I mean, i think where there has been a certain age, uh, of over certain change age, uh, of over the last few years is just the numbers people that have made numbers of people that have made that crossing , uh, that small boat crossing, uh, over last few years has over the last few years has dramatically um , uh, dramatically increased, um, uh, and that is illegal migration. And that is something why, uh , and that is something why, uh, the government has made it one of its top five priorities and why things the why you have things like the bibby stockholm, you have bibby stockholm, why you have agreements now agreements with france, and now italy try and stem that flow italy to try and stem that flow of because and thats of migration, because and thats why you have the rwanda scheme, which the minister is which the Prime Minister is determined through, determined to get through, because , as because as jonathan powell, as i say, tony blairs top adviser was saying as part of a Nuclear Option, you know, do we need an asylum case at all . Do we need an at all . We are an asylum system at all . We are an asylum system at all . We are an island. Uh, know, you an island. Uh, you know, you have to pass through many safe countries to countries even before you get to the return them the uk. Uh, just return them now, in crude terms. Im now, thats in crude terms. Im quoting on the on quoting whats on the on the documents scribbles documents and the scribbles there, effectively there, but that is effectively what across this what lots of people across this country thinking and country are thinking and feeling. Thats why the feeling. And thats why the government feeling. And thats why the gov its ment feeling. And thats why the gov its rwanda scheme through, get its rwanda scheme through, to a first very, for the to have a first very, for the very first time, a safe country that you can deport people to prevent other people making that illegal into this illegal crossing into this country, but allowing people who do this country, do need to come to this country, people need to seek people that do need to seek refuge, fleeing refuge, who are fleeing persecution, a right to persecution, who have a right to be here, should be here, but those that uh, play by those that dont, uh, play by the that are effectively the rules that are effectively economic migrants are economic migrants who are chancing arm , uh, where it chancing their arm, uh, where it is not fair for them to into chancing their arm, uh, where it is n a political will to flex the muscles like that. Do you think muscles like that. Do you think thats the problem . The tories blame lefty lawyers. They blame the labour party. They blame the labour party. They blame everybody themselves for the everybody but themselves for the situation that were in. Well, i think the fact is the framework has always been there. Theres no way that you can justify deporting the previous government, sending back 60,000 people a year. And that dropping to 3000 and blaming it on lawyers. Lawyers have been lawyers. Lawyers have been around for ages. They werent preventing 60,000 people being sent back. And theyre not sent back. And theyre not preventing, know , the 3000 preventing, you know, the 3000 odd are being sent back odd that are being sent back now. This government has now. So this government has effectively inherited a system which was relatively working at the time, and it has destroyed it. And its got no one else to blame. But it seems like a nice distraction from Everything Else thats going wrong with this country. Its almost like anything the home office touches , destroys. Be it the , it just destroys. Be it the passport application queues, be it , be it the policing it prisons, be it the policing service , be it, be it anything service, be it, be it anything else, they just cant seem to get anything right. And that is because that home office is because that the home office is not purpose. Every year, not fit for purpose. Every year, select tells select Affairs Committee tells us this in parliament. It says this machinery is not fit for the purpose. Its supposed to do. To rebuilt and do. It needs to be rebuilt and it needs to be heavily invested in. That does not seem to be happening. And whats happening is weve huge backlogs is weve had huge backlogs being built. The numbers of people built up. The numbers of people being sent back are going down. We had a lot of return we havent had a lot of return agreements, which we should have signed post brexit, but they just havent. Weve got about 7 or possibly you or 8, possibly three. So you cant send people back to countries dont have cant send people back to countr agreement dont have cant send people back to countr agreement. Dont have cant send people back to countr agreement. Thats have return agreement. Thats essential. Forgot to essential. Someone forgot to negotiate any return agreements after brexit. It just seems incompetence of the highest , incompetence of the highest, highest level. And yet , highest level. And yet, surprisingly, the government wants the public to reward them for this failure and i do not think it will at the next election. Okay, gentlemen, were going to have to leave it there. To have to leave it there. Hardeep singh bangal and Charlie Rowley, thank very much for rowley, thank you very much for joining on the show all those joining me on the show all those years was making years ago, blair was making these nothing been these noises. Nothing has been done that period or any done during that period or any penod done during that period or any period since. They talk tough. Theyve delivered little. Will we ever find anybody whos going to get tough on immigration, which is what people have been voting time after voting for. Time after time after can only live in after time. We can only live in hope for a miracle in the new yeah hope for a miracle in the new year. Now you can get lots more on that story on our website and thanks to gbnews. Com is the thanks to you. Gbnews. Com is the fastest news Fastest Growing National News website in the land. Its got breaking news and all the brilliant analysis youve come to expect from gb news so thank you much for making that you very much for making that happen. Now sadiq khan is under fire once again after attempting to take credit for improvements in londons air quality. A bit like cleverly with the weather saying. Hall said a new report saying. Hall said a new report showed the effectiveness of ulez policies in tackling pollution and underlined the reasons for extending the zone to cover the whole of london as of the 29th of august. This year. But the report showed that improvements in air quality. Report showed that improvements in air quality. Between 2019 and in air quality. Between 2019 and 2022 from lowering Motor Vehicle pollution often happened even before saw the expansion of the ulez throughout the capital. So is sadiq khan once again trying to steal the credit . While the to steal the credit . While the man who can answer that question is join me now and man who can answer that question isjoin me now and im man who can answer that question is join me now and im joined by london mayoral candidate for the reform party and the founder of fair cox. Fair fuel uk, howard cox. Howard, always a pleasure. Im howard, always a pleasure. Im no rocket scientist, but to claim that, um, ulez is the equivalent of all of londons airport seems to me plane crazy. Am i right . Youre absolutely right. We got yet another report where it should be written by Hans Christian andersen. Um, the thing about this report, martin, is that its come from a company thats got a dubious reputation. Its very anti driver. And to quote a review ive read recently, this is a dangerously misleading consultancy. So here we go again. I mean, whats happening with sadiq khan. Hes actually tried to entice Imperial College to give him the results he wanted. He asked tfl to actually do something about it. But fundamentally, every time hes done it, theyve come back saying ulez is not making much difference to the air quality london. Certainly quality in london. And certainly most certainly in making no difference to the air quality in the extension out to the m25. The extension out to the m25. The man is clutching at straws. The man is clutching at straws. And let me give you an example about this. In report it about this. In the report it says theres Something Like 13,500 tons of , um, nox says theres Something Like 13,500 tons of, um, nox has says theres Something Like 13,500 tons of , um, nox has been 13,500 tons of, um, nox has been reduced in those three years, 2019 to 2022. And 180 tons of particulate matter. The 2. 5 microns are dangerous. Uh, microns are dangerous. Uh, little, uh, buggers that actually can cause lung problems. But lets lets just put this in perspective. Emissions of nitrogen oxides. And im reading this from a scientific report thats been reviewed , have thats been Peer Reviewed, have already fallen by 77 since 1970, 80. Mm. There was no ulez in the last 40 or 50 years. And its fallen by 677,000 tons, 30 three quarters of a million tons. And its nothing to do with ulez. So these figures, im afraid he is clutching at straws i so how are the point here . Basically, is that due to cleaner burn vehicles being replaced by newer models that happens naturally. Anyhow and due to a background industry, were burning less coal. Were generally cleaner irrespective of any government policy. This is happening anyhow , a bit like is happening anyhow, a bit like James Cleverly trying to claim credit for the weather stopping dinghies landing in britain, ostensibly , pollution was going ostensibly, pollution was going down any road, and khan claiming its ulez, its claiming credit for something that was already happening anyway with nothing to do with him. Is that correct . It is absolutely right. Were clean fuel technology. Since and for example, ill give you an example, the hgv industry, you know, lorries and trucks have halved their emissions in the last ten, 15 years. Thats done simply years. And thats done simply because cleaner fuel because of cleaner fuel technology , better fuel technology, better fuel technology. The Vehicle Technology. The Vehicle Technology itself, all these sorts of things , cleaner sorts of things, cleaner emission we all want emission burns. We all want cleaner air, but dont do it cleaner air, but you dont do it by the pocket. By hitting people in the pocket. With in, uh, to with a £12. 50 coming in, uh, to london and with trucks and things, youre looking at £100 every time they come in. Mean, every time they come in. I mean, dont khan a track dont forget, khan has a track record with the truth, and im really worried. And one thing ive. Sir ive. Ive written today to sir keir why is he still keir starmer. Why is he still backing a dishonest mayor in london . Hes got to remove him from the labour party because that not telling the that man is not telling the truth. Truth. And howard, as far as ulez in a wider capacity , he obviously a wider capacity, he obviously were seeing it put its tendrils into other towns and were seeing it put its ten rules into other towns. Okay, weve lost howard. I was going to ask him this basic question. Keir this basic question. Keir starmer. Well, certainly his deputy leader, Angela Rayner, was on a news channel and she said that ulez would come to every town and city in the uk if labour was voted into power. So so my worry, weve already seen ulez and clean air zones, our equivalents put their tendrils across places like norwich and oxford. And so my point is, will this go everywhere . And this this go everywhere . And this science that keeps putting forward tfls own data. Theyre marking their own homework. Its marking their own homework. Its a study commissioned by themselves which is clearly put out howard quickly, if we could my concern about this is that the labour party hasnt sufficiently distanced itself from ulez. In fact, Angela Rayner said we may see it in every town and city in the country. Do you think labour is sitting on its hands on this one . Once again , im sitting on one . Once again, im sitting on the fence because it could roll out if they to come into out if they were to come into power. There are a few power. Yeah there are a few exceptions to that. Andy burnham, in manchester said to introduce said hes not going to introduce clean air zones. Maybe thats because election because hes up for election next year too. And this is next year too. And maybe this is political expediency but political expediency again. But it is going to come everywhere political expediency again. But it is goirmostcome everywhere political expediency again. But it is goirmost ofne everywhere political expediency again. But it is goirmost of the, lerywhere political expediency again. But it is goirmost of the, lerycities , because most of the, uh, cities, the big cities are actually controlled by labour and they are wedded to net zero. And they see net zero, particularly the drivers as antichrist. And drivers, as the antichrist. And the to actually one to raise the way to actually one to raise a lot of money and two, they think thats the route clean , think thats the route to clean, uh, quality. Its uh, cleaner air quality. Its absolute rubbish. And martin, youve hit the nail on the head. Theyre marking their own homework and theyre not actually any independent actually doing any independent research completely. Thats verified reviewed and verified and Peer Reviewed and thats going do with thats what im going to do with thisokay. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you very much. Howard cox, mayoral candidate for the party london. For the reform party for london. And of course, the founder of fairfield, glad we got fairfield, uk. Im glad we got you back for that final bit. There now. Response to the claims had this claims sadiq khan has had this to the decision expand to say. The decision to expand the not something the ulez was not something i took lightly, but when confronted evidence, it confronted by the evidence, it was clear that air zones was clear that clean air zones like these are the most effective way to cut toxic air and meaningfully protect peoples health. And a few short years, the ulez has prevented tens of thousands of tonnes of toxic nitrogen oxide emissions from being released, and the london wide expansion is enabung london wide expansion is enabling 5 million more londoners to breathe cleaner air. Thats sadiq khans response now coming up the home of england star jack response now coming up the home of england starJack Grealish was raided on wednesday night whilst his family were inside. The Police Responded in full force while even deploying a police helicopter. But the 75 of home burglaries remaining unsolved could this strong response be yet another example of two tiered policing for the rich and famous . This time im Martin Daubney on gb news britains news channel and people that i knew had dewbs co weeknights from six. Welcome back. Its 528. Well, welcome back. Its 528. Well, on wednesday evening, welcome back. Its 528. Well, on wednesday evening , jack on wednesday evening, Jack Grealishs home was raided whilst his family were inside watching man city match against everton. Thieves managed to get away with a million quids worth of jewellery. Police rushed to the scene and even deployed a helicopter. But with nearly 75 of home burglaries ending up as unsolved, is this yet another example of two tiered policing . Well joining me now to discuss this is kevin hurley , a former this is kevin hurley, a former head of volume crime for the metropolitan police. Hello, kev. Metropolitan police. Hello, kev. Always a pleasure to see you. A always a pleasure to see you. A great response from the police. Few could fault it, but what im saying today is heres a guy , a saying today is heres a guy, a multi millionaire, who gets a police helicopter. Um they almost could have sent batman and robin. Meanwhile, the rest of us have to wait two weeks to even get a copper to come round if our house gets broken into. Is this an example . Once again , is this an example . Once again, of two tier policing . Of two tier policing . Well caught at first glance, it could look like that. It could look like that. But if you look at the reality of it is what Police Received on that occasion was a very frightened 999 call from a family saying we can hear burglars upstairs in our house, uh, and were in fear of being robbed. That kind of situation is fortunately, something which when if police have got the resources available, they will all turn out to because quite frankly, everybody in the police loves to go to whats called a suspects on premises call because they want to catch a burglar in the act, particularly if there are children. So im frightened , uh, and at risk frightened, uh, and at risk because of course, theyre at risk. And of course, in this case, they dont live a million miles away from where the northwest area helicopters base at, uh, at eccles. At, uh, at eccles. So the northwest area helicopter would have been there in ten, 15 minutes. The real concern to me is not that they got a good turnout that they got a good turnout that night, as it should have been, because the family was at risk. Its the fact that the police have got such adequate resources all the way in which theyre deployed are so poor that most of us, if we get burgled, are unlikely to get any kind of meaningful response. Kind of meaningful response. Um, and i feel deeply sorry because i come from a family of nine cops, and i know the passion that not only myself , passion that not only myself, but all of my family members have for doing the right thing and catching baddies. And catching baddies. But the experiences i tend to have had over the recent years of the police have never ceased to disappoint me. When i call them for service of one kind or another, because theyve become so overwhelmed , theyve become so overwhelmed, armed with other demands , armed with other demands, whether its bureaucratic demands of form filling, partly to protect themselves or demands of filling up the gap where social services cant deal with problem , uh, situations or problem, uh, situations or mentally health, Mental Health issues. And this is a big issues. And this is a big concern because of course, theres such inadequate Mental Health provision that when people are acting in a deranged and frightening way on the street, the police, of course, are going to take them off the street. So straight to the a e to assessed , where, of to be assessed, where, of course, we know what the waiting times are at an a e. Well, the Police Officers have got to Police Officers have all got to stay there, the issue on it stay there, and the issue on it is, are denuded of is, is that we are denuded of Police Officers because of the way which demands are way in which the demands are laid upon. Way in which the demands are laicthe n. Way in which the demands are laicthe police have changed over the police have changed over the years and, um, well, theyve just not been resourced. You just not been resourced. You know, one often hears are the current government boris. Current government boris. And this was one good thing about boris. I will say about bofisis about boris. I will say about boris is he did immediately say we need to recruit another 20,000 cops to make up for the gap of 22 that had been cut. Gap of 22 that had been cut. A couple of issues with that. A couple of issues with that. What they didnt deal with is the theyd also cut 20,000 the fact theyd also cut 20,000 civilian staff , many of civilian support staff, many of whom acted as investigated or supported investigations. Supported investigations. Well, they dont exist anymore. And the demands not dropped. And of course, these new people have come on board. Will take years to before they really effective at what they do , effective at what they do, should they remain and the evidence is there now that of the 20,000 new people that came along and again i praise boris. Uh , we lost kevin there. Uh, we lost kevin there. Shame he was in his. He was in full flow, speaking common sense. Nobody can fault what the police grealish. 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The price of gold is £1,621, and £0. 40 per ounce, and the ftse 100 closed the day at 7733 points. Rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news Financial Report. News Financial Report. Thank you sophia. Now business and trade secretary Kemi Badenoch has been awarded minister of the year after beating Suella Braverman to the award. With sunak on the ropes , award. With sunak on the ropes, is kemi in line to become the next leader of the tory party well, here with me now to discuss this is political commentator benedict spence. Hello, benedict. Always a pleasure and a fine tree you have behind you there. So of course, talk is now looking forward to the next election. Many fearing a conservative defeat, some fascinating analysis out today from electoral calculus looking at who might survive, depending on the severity of the tory wipe out and kemi seems to be not only popular, but as she is in an especially safe seat, is likely to avoid any kind of cull. With all that in mind , do cull. With all that in mind, do you think she might be a good future leader for the conservative party i do think she would make a good, uh, future leader. Whether or not the time is immediately after this upcoming general election , uh, perhaps remains to election, uh, perhaps remains to be seen. I think it will depend be seen. I think it will depend on the severity of the defeat. And who else gets knocked out of the party, or who else decides to away . Um, you know, make to step away . Um, you know, make no about it, the party no mistake about it, the party is now, it is populated by is even now, it is populated by incredibly ambitious people, many of believe they incredibly ambitious people, mar be yf believe they incredibly ambitious people, marbe leader believe they incredibly ambitious people, mar be leader and ieve they incredibly ambitious people, marbe leader and ieve eveny can be leader and maybe even Prime Minister at some point. So what in the best what is necessarily in the best interests of the party isnt necessarily in their best interests. And you do see, weve seen this before, sort of little pacts made, little pacts being made, little coalitions getting together. I dont think many people would have as smart have had liz truss as the smart to money Boris Johnson to money replace Boris Johnson at she did become at the start. Yet she did become leader. So you know, i think being favourite isnt being the favourite isnt necessarily helpful necessarily the most helpful thing , but certainly necessarily the most helpful thing, but certainly id necessarily the most helpful thing , but certainly id say of thing, but certainly id say of all of ones that are all of the ones that are planning on remaining remaining in politics, i think Kemi Badenoch strong badenoch is a very strong candidate , a able candidate candidate, a very able candidate , and i would expect to see her stand for the leadership at some point. Point. Its interesting you mentioned the fact lions mentioned about the fact lions and the packs because we had Dame Andrea Jenkins on the show earlier, and put question earlier, and i put this question to and she called to her and she called Kemi Badenoch the great pretender, the great pretender. She called her, he cant hear me. I showed it in sign language, um, called him the great pretender , um, him the great pretender, um, kemi because according to dame andrea kemi wears the clothes of being a right wing, hard line, proper conservative. But when looking at sort of voting record, Andrea Jenkins claims actually she goes along with theresa may type policies on brexit. Benedict we have you back. I brexit. Benedict we have you back. I wanted to put a point to you. Dame Andrea Jenkins joined us earlier on the show and she called Kemi Badenoch, the great pretender , somebody who backed pretender, somebody who backed theresa may style policies augned theresa may style policies aligned with theresa may and is wearing the clothes of being a proper conservative right winger, but actually she isnt , winger, but actually she isnt, i think. I mean, its entirely possible, but i think what we have to remember here is that Kemi Badenoch, lets say, hypothetically, Kemi Badenoch would like to a prime would like to be a Prime Minister or leader of the minister or a leader of the conservative its not conservative party its not simply membership that simply the membership that she has is the rest has to appeal to. It is the rest of country. This, im of the country. And this, im afraid, mistake that afraid, is the big mistake that the made with the labour party made with jeremy this idea that if Jeremy Corbyn. This idea that if you are ideologically pure , the you are ideologically pure, the country just sort of country would just sort of magically behind magically fall into line behind you will fine. You and everything will be fine. And i do think this is why we need to be sort of very cautious when to the when it comes to the, uh, the jockeying who might end up jockeying as to who might end up replacing rishi sunak. Of replacing rishi sunak. And of course, here course, we are assuming here that will need to be that rishi sunak will need to be replaced. Pull the replaced. He could pull out the hail mary of all time. Hail mary shocks of all time. Um, it is likely and that um, but it is likely and that candidate, whoever that person is stand to is, cannot simply stand up to the tory party and say, im here for all of you. They have to go to the rest of the country and say, weve changed. We are not about to through another about to go through another psychodrama. To about to go through another psydown ama. To about to go through another psydown an a. To about to go through another psydown an ideologically to about to go through another psydown an ideologically pure to go down an ideologically pure route has go down an ideologically pure route it has go down an ideologically pure route it very has go down an ideologically pure route it very clear has go down an ideologically pure route it very clear actually1as go down an ideologically pure route it very clear actually ,|s made it very clear actually, they arent interested in that. They corbyn they rejected Jeremy Corbyn pretty overwhelmingly. Um, and i pretty overwhelmingly. Um, and i think its reflected in the fact that i think a lot of tory members are actually relatively sensible after the period of tumult that theyve just been through. At kemi through. They look at Kemi Badenoch, say, okay, she badenoch, they say, okay, she does these things, does talk tough on these things, but headbanger, but shes not a headbanger, actually. Somebody can actually. Shes somebody who can probably do business across lines, and thats lines, but be firm. And thats what people and i think what people want. And i think thats you saw keir thats also why you saw keir starmer become leader of the labour okay, labour party. People went, okay, hes ideologically pure hes not as ideologically pure as, corbyn, but you as, uh, Jeremy Corbyn, but you know hes probably know what . Hes probably somebody can reach across somebody who can reach across divides things and for divides and fix things and for a broken party like the tories are , thats what need more than , thats what you need more than somebody going to drag somebody whos going to drag you off specific off down one very specific route. And benedict, lot of route. And benedict, a lot of people saying the people are saying that the conservatives, sense, conservatives, in a sense, almost need through almost need to go through a cleansing process , a forest fire. So shoots can regrow and the party thats currently two parties within one party. We have this conversation all the time. The liberal side of the party true party versus the true conservative side the party. Conservative side of the party. Why we need to through why do we need to go through that rebirth the most that rebirth and is the most likely electorally successful route for the conservative party to go down on a more right wing conservative route to have a clear point of difference . After clear point of difference . After all, we got keir starmer talking about tony blairs ideas today of offshore containment. It of offshore containment. It seems like the right wing ideas of yore might be the left wing ideas of tomorrow. Ideas of tomorrow. I mean, keir starmer is a very intelligent man. I know hes very dull, but he is very intelligent and he does know what plays well. And yeah, thats why hes been able to sort this course for sort of stay this course for quite admittedly you quite so long. Admittedly you know, against know, what hes up against hasnt particularly hasnt been particularly impressive. Tories impressive. Uh, but the tories do to this mind do need to bear this in mind that he has a much that i think he has a much better on what Centre Better grasp on what the centre wants than anybody the tory wants than anybody in the tory ranks want at moment, ranks want at the moment, whether very whether or not sort of a very right wing tory party is what people question. People want is another question. I think are certain issues i think there are certain issues. There are certain issues on which conservatives which the conservatives would do well right with well to lean right with immigration one. Theres immigration being one. Theres no point in being wishy washy about immigration and saying, oh, its good for the economy, or be nice when or we have to be nice when people are sort of if you like, voting their feet and voting with their feet and saying, it. Saying, no, we dont like it. But doesnt that but that doesnt mean that everything has to be. And as i say, know, you have to pick say, you know, you have to pick your battles very wisely, especially are especially if you are in opposition and you have to find those of wedge issues. Those sort of wedge issues. I think inheritance another think inheritance tax is another interesting one. Its interesting that it is being floated of the upcoming floated ahead of the upcoming budget. Those budget. It is finding those dividing yourself dividing lines between yourself and party that is and the labour party that is dragging the centre dragging itself to the centre and taking some things to the right no, are and taking some things to the righdoing no, are and taking some things to the righdoing what no, are and taking some things to the righdoing what you , are and taking some things to the righdoing what you want, are and taking some things to the righdoing what you want, theyre not doing what you want, theyre just things because thats just doing things because thats what , or they think it what they want, or they think it sounds good. Here we are. Weve messed up on these issues. We are these. Are are centrist on these. We are right you right wing on these. And you take we stand this take us as we stand on this manifesto. Thats know, manifesto. Thats the, you know, going entirely down. One going off entirely down. One tangent a recipe for tangent i think is a recipe for disaster much as disaster every bit as much as being entirely on the fence about everything disaster. About everything is a disaster. Electorally, lest yeah. And electorally, lest we forget, you know, tony won blair from the centre and tony blair, here we go once again. Hoves back into view. The blair files are out. We learn , of files are out. We learn, of course, that starmer has weekly meetings with sir tony. Hes got his fingers in pies. All these years later. The big question is benedict is Starmer Tony Blair in disguise . And is blair pulling the puppet strings. Pulling the puppet strings. I think keir starmer is a lot closer to blair than anybody else that weve had since blair. I dont think that thats unfair to say. I think its entirely sensible for sir starmer to sensible for sir keir starmer to call blair for advice call on tony blair for advice given, as you just pointed out, his in sometimes baffling but nonetheless in fantastic electoral longevity. Um, is he pulling the strings . Im not sure. I think that if it got out that there was too much influence, i think that that would prove very toxic. Tony blair is no longer very popular in country. But you know, in this country. But you know, ultimately youve got to look at the party right now. Its the labour party right now. Its a much much well oiled, a much better, much well oiled, more than the more well oiled machine than the tories there is tories are. And there is certainly elements new certainly elements of the new labour everywhere. And, you labour everywhere. And, as you say, highlighted in the fact that, in that, you know, even back in the day, looking at day, they were looking at offshoring, immigration centres and those ideas back in and now those ideas are back in vogue. You know, labour vogue. You know, new labour is not as it used not as toxic a brand as it used to okay ben. To be. Okay ben. Lex, ben. Superb analysis as even lex, ben. Superb analysis as ever. Great Christmas Tree and a very, very happy new year. Now a fun one to end the show on of all the politicians in the land, evenin all the politicians in the land, even in the world, who would you most like to have a pint with . Let me know and why vaiews gbnews. Com and ill read the best out after this. Im Martin Daubney on gb news britains news channel. Only on gb news, the peoples channel only on gb news, the peoples channel, britains news channel. Channel, britains news channel. Welcome back to Martin Daubney on gb news. Now on to the biggest and most pressing story of the day, which politician would you most like to share a pint with . Now our mps are not really known for being the most social of butterflies. Many of you may remember this terrifying incident involving former tory mayoral candidate Zac Goldsmith. A few years ago. Look at that appalling. The mans got two appalling. The mans got two hands on his glass. Appalling. The mans got two hands on his glass. Hes hands on his glass. Hes steadying the bottom as he goes. Steadying the bottom as he goes. Theres a man whos never troubled a pint glass in his life , let alone in front of the life, let alone in front of the political, um, paparazzi. And i political, um, paparazzi. And i know somebody who worked on that campaign. Apparently, that campaign. Apparently, that photograph haunts him to this day as well. It should. An day as well. It should. An absolute disgrace. Look at it anyway. So heres the big question. Who would you like to have a pint with . Maybe the man who got brexit done there. He is. Thats mr Boris Johnson. He likes the quaff ukip raising a glass there. Its well known that boris enjoys a good draught indeed. But would you greet him warmly at your local . As for me, or back in my mep days, it had to be. There we go. Thats nigel farage, that is brexit day. That is literally five minutes after we voted to leave the European Union. I had the honour of buying nigel farage his first ever beer after we left the European Union, i beat 17. 4 Million People to it. I dont think that that bloke buys a pint anywhere else. He goes in the land. There he is. Im doing the land. There he is. Im doing the conga with him raising a leg. Well have to discuss who theyd like to go for a bevvy with. Now im joined by gb news presenters Patrick Christys and dawn neesom. So, pat, i know youve mapped out a session. Yes. So ive gone for the full session. Right. So im going to wake up with churchill and start with a champagne. Right. A pint of champagne. Right. Yeah. Then towards the yeah. And then towards the mid morning im going to nip round Charles Kennedys house. Yeah. Nice right. And that was, that lasted for quite that would have lasted for quite a notoriously so. And a while, notoriously so. And then i would have gone down the working john working mens club with john prescott. Yeah. Right. And wed have up in have probably ended up in a couple of scrapes outside there, by point ill need a bit by which point ill need a bit of a pick me up. So id nip round to keith waleses for a nightcap. Yeah more. Yeah. And say no more. Yeah, yeah. And you might meet a washing machine salesman. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. At day on while youre at it, my day on the, you know, on the pints the, uh, you know, on the pints with, different with, uh, various different politicians, with, uh, various different politic quite fruity. Yeah. It thats quite fruity. Yeah. It is, i mean, it ticks it ticks the box of history. You get a pint of champagne . Absolutely. And you end night with keith vaz. Got it all there, you youve got it all there, you know, youve got youve got history. You know, history. Youve got, you know, good the good proper men, youve got the working and working class element to it and a few other things as well. Certainly have a good few you certainly have a good few proper men keith vaz proper men ran at keith vaz anyway. Proper men ran at keith vaz any right. Right. W im doing some girl power to this conversation. This ridiculous conversation. Patricks and obviously patricks planned even planned it and i havent even thought. Did go out a thought. But i did go out for a pint of champagne with glenda jackson. Hows that . Jackson. Oh, nice. Hows that . Yeah, sat the yeah, absolutely. We sat on the terrace at the house, and we only meant to be having. I was meant be interviewing her. Meant to be interviewing her. Obviously didnt we meant to be interviewing her. Obviajsly didnt we meant to be interviewing her. Obvia glass didnt we meant to be interviewing her. Obvia glass of didnt we meant to be interviewing her. Obvia glass of champagne we meant to be interviewing her. Obvia glass of champagne andie had a glass of champagne and this is where the pint champagne comes ended comes in. Because we ended up getting quite few getting through quite a few pints was pints of champagne. It was a fantastic day. I cant remember fantastic day. I cant remember what it was what we spoke about, but it was a cracking interview in the end. So. So youre drinking pints, champagne before theyre even so. So youre drinking pints, chamjtender efore theyre even so. So youre drinking pints, chamjtender thing. Theyre even so. So youre drinking pints, chaand nder thing. Theyre even so. So youre drinking pints, chaand nder thiiyou 1eyre even so. So youre drinking pints, chaand nder thiiyou what, even and ill tell you what, i wouldnt out for and ill tell you what, i wpintnt out for and ill tell you what, i wpint with out for and ill tell you what, i wpint with angela out for and ill tell you what, i wpint with Angela Rayner. For and ill tell you what, i wpint with Angela Rayner. Yeah, a pint with Angela Rayner. Yeah, i should be a right laugh down the pub. W e shed have i suspect shed have more than anyway, we were than one. Um, anyway, we were asking pints. Yes we were supposed to be a good laugh, actually. Yeah, yeah, genuinely. Lot people say shes a lot of people say shes a really, really, really good fun. Have that. Ive heard i have heard that. Ive heard that from a few tories. Well, apparently good apparently she is very good company. Anyway, weve been asking throughout the show asking you throughout the show who with. Phil who youd like a job with. Phil says this agrees with you, pat. I pint with i would like to have a pint with winston him. Winston churchill. So thank him. And who died for us and the soldiers who died for us to be able to live in our great country. Paul says to be able to live in our great coun um, paul says to be able to live in our great coun um, echoing paul says to be able to live in our great coun um, echoing ouraul says this, um, echoing our sentiments. Id love a pint with nigel farage, our future Prime Minister. Drinking minister. Have you been drinking already, know one of the already, paul . I know one of the very who will stop very few people who will stop the coming from france. The boats coming from france. Bill says this. It would have to be Jacob Rees Mogg mogg simply because is so well versed in because he is so well versed in so many subjects. And it will be so many subjects. And it will be a pleasure to listen to him. Um, jean id like a pint with jean says id like a pint with lee anderson to take out a second mortgage for that one to talk about migrant situation. Ian his straight talking. Ian i like his straight talking. Ian i like his straight talking. Ihave ian i like his straight talking. I have the feeling it might be more than one pint. Jean can confirm. And finally , heres one confirm. And finally, heres one which i have some special information on. Although not an mp yet, i would love to have a dnnk mp yet, i would love to have a drink and a chat ben habib mp yet, i would love to have a dritheand a chat ben habib mp yet, i would love to have a drithe reform|at ben habib mp yet, i would love to have a drithe reform party. Ben habib mp yet, i would love to have a drithe reform party. Letzn habib mp yet, i would love to have a drithe reform party. Let meiabib mp yet, i would love to have a drithe reform party. Let me tell of the reform party. Let me tell you know, its one you this. You know, its one pint, willy. Its half a pint. Habib, telling you, this guy habib, im telling you, this guy is cheap date. Anyway im not is a cheap date. Anyway im not going to put him down any more. You two have got my sort of you two guys have got my sort of man , actually. Man, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Youre doing, dewbs co youre doing, um. Dewbs co 617. What . 617. What . You spineless jubes. Right. Weve a cracking show coming weve got a cracking show coming up, involve pints of up, and it does involve pints of champagne. Enough, champagne. Funnily enough, theres in my with theres a theme in my life with pints and champagne going on here. Were about here. Now were talking about new resolutions. Are new years resolutions. And are they doing . And this dry they worth doing . And this dry january vegan thing. Anyone doing it . Weve also got some serious stuff coming up. Um, parents being a bit rubbish. Yeah feckless parents crap. Ive been saying that all, all day. Im not allowed to use the word once. Um, and we are also talking about Civil Servants. Are they out of control . Whos running the where are they . Let alone are where are they . Let alone are they out of control . Working from home still . Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. Doing seriously. Yeah. Doing serinat,. Yeah. Doing serinat, whats the doing all. Pat, whats on the menu got some exclusive so weve got some exclusive polling is landing at 9 polling that is landing at 9 pm, which is about voting p. M, which is about voting intention. About form intention. Its about which form of would like of Prime Minister you would like to and well, to bring back, and as well, about top facing about what the top issues facing the country are ahead of the next so will next election. So that will be good. Well be revealing next election. So that will be goo newzll be revealing next election. So that will be goo newzll honoursealing next election. So that will be goo newzll honours listig next election. So that will be goo newzll honours list and the new years honours list and liz resignation honours liz trusss resignation honours at 1030 on the dot. So that will be good. And we have got a message for our viewers from bofis message for our viewers from Boris Johnson at 10 pm. As well. Got a little new well. Um, hes got a little new years message for everybody. So were to be doing all of were going to be doing all of that much , much more as well. Okay. Weve still got a bit of time. You can you flash of time. Can you can you flash your slightly about your garter slightly about whats that poll . Anything juicy. Well for me m for me is juicy. Well for me is really well what for me is really quite revealing is firstly as well kind of Prime Minister well the kind of Prime Minister that they would actually want. And this includes labour voters by the way. So think that will by the way. So i think that will expose who um, you know, how far weve and when weve actually fallen. And when it voting intention it comes to voting intention at the election, the next general election, one to the way that to really watch is the way that people liberal people who voted liberal democrat are going to democrat last time are going to vote. This time, vote. Interesting. This time, um, not really kind um, im not really kind of giving numbers here, but giving you the numbers here, but so of them are going to go so many of them are going to go to labour tactically vote to keep the tories out. Yeah, exactly. That that going exactly. That that is going to be watch at the next be one to watch at the next general election. And also as well the key, the key issues that facing, um, that people are facing, um, going into the next election as well , small boats going into the next election as well, small boats is not going into the next election as well , small boats is not not well, small boats is not not deemed to be the number one issue. So illegal migration is not deemed to be the number one issue there. But i know that will anger a lot of our viewers. Yeah it will. Well of course. Yeah it will. Well superb so weve dewbs of course. Yeah it will. Well suc0b so weve dewbs of course. Yeah it will. Well suco with so weve dewbs of course. Yeah it will. Well suco with dawn weve dewbs of course. Yeah it will. Well suco with dawn neesom dewbs of course. Yeah it will. Well suco with dawn neesom sixewbs of course. Yeah it will. Well suco with dawn neesom six tills co with dawn neesom six till seven right after this. And me and are doing breakfast seven right after this. And me and atogether breakfast seven right after this. And me and atogether breakfafirst tomorrow together for the first time. Really sorry. Im really sorry. Im really sorry. 12 hours time. Thats in 12 hours time. I should me sleeping out should get me sleeping bag out and Patrick Christys tonight. 9 to to 11. Message to 11, 9 to 11. Message from boris. Loads of poll information. Sexy , sounds information. Sounds sexy, sounds action packed. Two great shows coming uh, as i said, ill coming up. Uh, as i said, ill be back here 6 am. For you early birds with this one here. Dawn neesom after break. Dawn neesom after the break. Dewbs co. Dewbs co. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Im alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. Its going to stay pretty unsettled as we go through the end of the year with some heavy rain and strong winds to come through the last few days of 2023. Thats because low pressure away. Pressure is never too far away. There deep of low there is a deep area of low pressure current out in the atlantic, which is heading towards the moment towards us, but at the moment were under influence of an were under the influence of an area of low pressure towards the northeast which has northeast of the uk, which has brought blustery winds today northeast of the uk, which has brouwill blustery winds today northeast of the uk, which has brouwill continue ary winds today northeast of the uk, which has brouwill continue to winds today northeast of the uk, which has brouwill continue to bring; today and will continue to bring strong and heavy strong winds and some heavy outbreaks of rain across parts of northeast through of northeast scotland through the elsewhere, will the night. Elsewhere, we will see of the dying see many of the showers dying out, so clear skies for out, so some clear skies for a time before some heavy rain pushes way from the west , pushes its way from the west, where have clear skies where we have the clear skies through temperatures through tonight. Temperatures are going could fall are going to drop. Could fall several below freezing several degrees below freezing across scotland, across parts of scotland, so a harsh frost likely here elsewhere go through elsewhere as we go through saturday, a spell of heavy rain pushing its way and north pushing its way east and north eastwards across the country. This is going to bring some strong also some strong winds and also some significant snow across parts of scotland as it makes its way across , we could see more than across, we could see more than ten centimetres so ten centimetres perhaps, so could disruption in could cause some disruption in the north. It is going to be a cold day further south, mild for the year, but not the time of year, but not necessarily feeling it in the wet and windy weather into new years eve. And it is going to be blustery, showery day. Some be a blustery, showery day. Some of showers heavy of those showers will be heavy at and strong winds, at times and strong winds, particularly with particularly in the south, with gales even severe gales, possibly even severe gales, possibly even severe gales for some of us it does look like something a little bit dnen look like something a little bit drier, maybe cards as we drier, maybe on the cards as we go into new years day and temperatures staying a little bit average by by looks bit above average by by looks like things are heating up. Like things are heating up. Boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news as it with overpromoted underqualified Civil Servants landing senior jobs that they mostly do from home. So does whitehall need a clear out . And as its revealed that tony blair considered asylum , sending considered asylum, sending Asylum Seekers to africa back in 2004, when he was Prime Minister is labours opposition to the governments rwanda plan a teeny weeny bit hypocritical concern . Weeny bit hypocritical concern . Mp james daly has sparked supposed outrage for claiming im going to say this word once. Forgive me if you find it offensive, but this is a direct quote claiming