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The body part was found wrapped in plastic at castle downs. The victims believed to have been dead for a number of days. Dna tests are ongoing to identify him. Climate activist greta him. Climate activist Greta Thunberg has been detained by dutch police during a demonstration in the hague. Timberg was put in a large bus by officers, along with other protesters, who tried to block a major highway into the administrative capital of the netherlands. The 21 year old netherlands. The 21 year old activist was protesting against the dutch governments fossil fuel subsidies. The dutch governments fossil fuel subsidies. And workers fuel subsidies. And workers across the country have today been granted the legal right to request Flexible Working from the day they start a new job. Previously it only applied if someone had worked for their employer for 26 weeks or more. Flexible working is defined as a way that suits an employees needs for example, having Flexible Working timings or working from home. Experts believe it could benefit millions of people and increase productivity. For the latest productivity. For the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. Just scan the qr code on your screen, or you can code on your screen, or you can 90 code on your screen, or you can go to gb news. Com alerts. Now its back to. Mark. Its back to. Mark. Thanks to the brilliant tatiana sanchez, who returns in an hours time. Welcome to a very busy mark dolan tonight in the big story, as rishi sunak strikes a deal with nhs consultants, would a Labour Government mean five years of union chaos . Ill be asking a top fleet street insider as it shifts to the left. Would Margaret Thatcher even make it into this modern Day Conservative Party . Ill be asking her former top adviser and the mail newspaper are reporting that dogs and cats are getting sick after easter. Whats going on . Ill be asking. My whats going on . Ill be asking. My mark meets guest. Itv this mornings in house vet, doctor scott miller, and after ten, how do you solve a problem like Prince Andrew . Ill be dealing with the disgraced royal, who is the subject of two major hollywood films , one of which is hollywood films, one of which is out weekend. My out this weekend. My unapologetic verdict on randy andy at 10 00. You wont want to miss it. Plus, three top pundits who tonight havent been told what to say and who dont follow the script. This evening, journalist and writer Benedict Spence , political commentator spence, political commentator rebecca jane , and fearless rebecca jane, and fearless columnist and tv personality nina myskow. Lots to get through, folks. Plus, the most important part of the show your emails. They come straight to my laptop gb news. Com and laptop market. Gb news. Com and this show has a golden rule we dont do boring. Not on my watch. I just wont have it. So a big two hours to come. We start with my big opinion. Schools are not safe for children. How has it come to this Primary School . Teachers have been told to let pupils change their gender without telling their parents. In a direct contravention of uk government guidelines. An investigation into over 600 schools at transgender and equality policies found that up to three quarters of those surveyed misrepresented sex and gender protection laws, while some were content to enforce gender neutral rules like letting small children decide which toilets and changing rooms they wanted to use, this madness is across the educational establishment, in the private and the public sector, and even wait for it in church of england Primary Schools, where in one trust teachers have been advised to help young girls use breast binders when out on school trips. You heard me right. Breast binders. Now a breast binder if you dont know what that is, and youre lucky if you dont, is a medieval device that literally breasts of literally straps the breasts of a young girl down to stop them growing. Thats progress. Is it growing. Thats progress. Is it the same . Trust has said that students on school trips can sleep in bedrooms that match their chosen gender identity , their chosen gender identity, which of course potentially means young boys in dormitories with young girls. And thats progress , too, is it . The progress, too, is it . The analysis carried out by protect and teach, a network of women protecting education from cult influence, and more power to them for doing that , focused on them for doing that, focused on two counties in the south west of england , after research of england, after research showed that they had some of the highest rates of gender identity referrals in the uk. Now what referrals in the uk. Now what does this all mean in plain english . Well, its young kids beginning the journey of changing their sex, although of course theyre being sold a lie because you cannot change your sex. Dont take my word for it. Here is one of the worlds leading experts on fertility doctor robert winston, speaking on the bbcs question time show. Well say this categorically that you cannot change your sex, your sex actually is there in every single cell in the body. You have a chromosomal sex, you have genetic sex, you have hormonal sex. You have all sorts of different kinds of psychological brain sex. Theyre all different. Him cancelled. This thats him cancelled. This bonkers guidance suggests that children as young as five could show signs that they are in the wrong body. What the hell does that actually mean . No one is in the wrong body. The other brain the wrong body. The other brain scrambling idea is that biological sex is somehow assigned at birth. Depending on the and i quote, appearance of the and i quote, appearance of the infant. Let me help you with the infant. Let me help you with that. If theres a willy, its a boy. If theres a moo moo, its a girl. I really should have been a doctor, you know, another Grammar School claimed that sex was a persons understanding and experience of their own gender identity. There are no words. My job is to talk. But ive got nothing for you. What am i supposed to say . Ill tell you what i think. I think that schools peddling this nonsense should be placed into special measures. And if they continue brainwashing kids into the cult of gender ideology, they should ultimately be shut down. At best, this is misinformation , best, this is misinformation, quackery and anti science, and at worst , its grooming. This at worst, its grooming. This nightmare ideology is embedded in many educational establishments with small children being asked whether they are a boy or a girl. Today now, of course, once youre an adult, you can identify, however you like. Its a free country and i am a libertarian. Ive got Close Friends who are trans no problem. But taking children down this road is not only overtly sexual and therefore inappropriate. It can lead them on the path to chemical interventions like puberty blockers and even the removal of reproductive organs , double reproductive organs, double mastectomies, you name it. I dont want to go into details. Dont want to go into details. What a sick joke. Therefore, that school where children are there to learn their times, tables to play it and to mess around with paint is now a place of such potential harm to them. Now, i grew up with two fabulous sisters and when i was little, i remember a few occasions when they put me in one of their dresses, high heels, makeup , and dresses, high heels, makeup, and too much lipstick. If you look at that image just to the side of me that is me in a slightly more conservative outfit. But theres a skirt and theres a hairband and all the rest of it. That was classic childhood tomfoolery. It was innocent. It was fun. It was silly games. But if Something Like that happened now, and if i was at the wrong school or or if i had the wrong parents, a judgement might be made that i wasnt a boy, but a girl trapped in a boys body. And my life journey would have been very , very different. I been very, very different. I shudder to think similarly , shudder to think similarly, children and young people with autism or depression are regularly being diagnosed as trans and children who are so called gender non conforming. In other words, girly boys or boyish girls are also being placed on this path when its likely that they are simply gay. Trans ideology is suffused in our culture now. Our corporations, the Civil Service the nhs, of course, and most egregiously, the educational establishment. Children are being fed dangerous lies and peddled a wicked fantasy by teachers who should be protecting them, not brainwashing them into a religion which makes no sense and which is full of potential physical and psychological harm. Physical and psychological harm. Teachers should be there to teach children to teach them how to read, how to do sums and keep them away from anything that could destroy their precious innocence in too many schools. Now, the opposite is happening. This is a hellish story and it pains me even to talk about it. So let this show mark dolan tonight be a matter of Public Record that a crime is being committed on our children in real time, with parents unaware of what is happening to their child at school, children separated from their families, parents frozen out. If thats not an abusive dynamic, i dont know what is the backlash from this in years to come, when the damage is done, will be unlimited and colossal. The case for home schooling grows by the day. So for home schooling grows by the day. So children are being transitioned in this school, right . Little johnny is now matilda. Hes gone from being a he to a she and mum and dad dont even know about it. Your reaction, mark at gbnews. Com. Dont forget ill be dealing with Prince Andrew at 10 00. But lets get the thoughts now of my top pundits. Very excited to be joined this evening by the brilliant political commentator, the one and only Benedict Spence. We also have rebecca jane ,. We also have rebecca jane, former deputy leader of ukip and columnist and tv personality. The one and only nina myskow , the one and only nina myskow, great to have all three of you with me. Happy saturday, one and all. Where to start . Nina michkov parents separated from their children. Kids transition at school. Mum and dad dont even know about it. Well, there rogue well, there are rogue teachers of all you know can can encompass religion and can encompass religion and can encompass all sorts of things. But this is against complete government policy, and the report in the daily mail kept saying reportedly , reportedly, saying reportedly, reportedly, reportedly so theyre not claiming this all as fact. Reportedly so theyre not claiming this all as fact. But, claiming this all as fact. But, this worries me. My mum was a teacher. She was a very, you know, good scottish Science Teacher and pupils were still, you know, long after she retired , saying how much shed meant to them and all of that. She taught them and all of that. She taught the proclaimers biology. By the way. Theres a is that right . A weird factor famous scottish singing absolutely singing duo. Absolutely brilliant, it seems to me brilliant, but it seems to me that, in this day and age, you have to accept that , that, that, have to accept that, that, that, that people are feeling that they are born into the wrong bodies. There was a very famous journalist called james morris who who transitioned this is decades ago, wrote a book about it called conundrum and she said that she knew when she was five years old, around that time that she was in the wrong body. So you have to accept that these things happen. Gender dysphoria, which is a recognised, status. Gender dysphoria, which is a rec gender dysphoria, which is a rec gender dysphoria, which is a rec gender dysphoria, which is a rec gender dysphoria, which is a rec absolutely. But i firmly believe that parents should be, told of anything that happens to their child. They are ultimately responsible for their children, having , a parent is having said that, a parent is not a perfect human being. We not a perfect human being. We all know of cases where, teachers are having to deal with, Primary School children who are not potty trained, the largest single factor for children going into hospital is because of delaying teeth. So theyre not getting nutritionally fed. Theyre not getting hygienically , treated, getting hygienically, treated, so lets not say that, you know, parents are good and teachers are bad. Lets, lets just kind of narrow this down. Well, nina raises an interesting point, rebecca jane, because perhaps these teachers are doing this for the right reason. They are protecting the children from parents who may not understand or accept the journey child is on, journey that the child is on, im not quite on that boat, i think that the problem is that schools seem to be getting this overwhelming sense of power , and overwhelming sense of power, and i dont think that schools are going to be happy until theyre actually our childrens legal guardians, are parents, as guardians, we are parents, as you know. And yes, there are some parents who are obviously not understanding and all the rest of it. And i do actually think that children can feel like they are born into the wrong body. But we the wrong body. But we are the adults were to guide adults and were there to guide children. Our role in children. Thats our role in life. And where do we draw line . And they often grow out of it. I just showed picture it. And i just showed a picture there myself , aged about 5 or there of myself, aged about 5 or 6, in a skirt with a headband on previous. Theres other images my mum was looking for. Bakhmut. Well, god bless you for that. You know, lipstick, you know. But i could i probably would have been transitioned by now if it know what a child to you know what a child says to you six, seven, eight you at five, six, seven, eight years old may not be the case in future. You know, was future. You know, when i was eight old, wanted to be eight years old, i wanted to be a for crying out a firewoman, for crying out loud. You imagine that . A firewoman, for crying out loud. Like you imagine that . A firewoman, for crying out loud. Like its imagine that . A firewoman, for crying out loud. Like its ludicrous. � |at . Yeah, like its ludicrous. Ive seen house, well, ive seen your house, mark. Well, that lie , by the way. Only if youve got. Only if youve got a filthy mind. Would youve got a filthy mind. Would you think that was rude . If youre not careful, shes gonna firemans lift you right out of. Ive been round her garden. Its well fed pose. Is a its a very well fed pose. Is a posh word for tights or stockings. Posh word for tights or sto thats right. I tell you what, getting very what, its getting very personal, is the personal, benedict. This is the issue. Of that the issue. A duty of care that the teacher feels towards the child, issue. A duty of care that the tersupportzls towards the child, issue. A duty of care that the tersupport them, ards the child, issue. A duty of care that the tersupport them, tois the child, issue. A duty of care that the tersupport them, to be he child, issue. A duty of care that the tersupport them, to be whorild, issue. A duty of care that the tersupport them, to be who they to support them, to be who they want thats what theyre want to be. Thats what theyre doing. And theyre doing it for the reasons. Do you think . I mean, i mean, i think its an interesting raise the interesting point to raise the spectre of children, spectre of a lot of children, for turning up to school. Theyre not able to read at a certain level. Theyre not able to laboratory, theyre to use the laboratory, theyre not their teeth. Not able to brush their teeth. Clearly, there is a bit a clearly, there is a bit of a breakdown in certain of breakdown in certain sections of society does have society where school does have to this is actually to step in, but this is actually those actually basic those that is actually basic functions survive functions in order to survive as, a human being in as, as, as a human being in modern actually, modern society. Actually, your gender necessarily gender is not necessarily an essential that. Essential function of that. I think its actually very think its actually many very small people , very small numbers of people, very small numbers of people, very small numbers, who end up permanently transitioning at from. And the numbers are growing. Many think this is a social contagion. Benedict. Benedict. Well, it is a social contagion. You can see the correlation between people saying identifying as transgender up and the transgender going up and the introduction of the smartphone and social media. You cannot get away from and ultimately, away from that. And ultimately, i you want to have i think if you want to have a society that is low, trust that breaks down where people dont actually trust their institutions anymore. Theres no more surefire way than doing this sort of thing behind the backs of parents. And we can say that there are some parents that dont fulfil certain roles. I just that gives just dont think that that gives schools to say , here schools the right to say, here is something that actually is something that is actually not at all, and not within our remit at all, and if anything, will disrupt your education it is an education because it is an incredibly disruptive process. If going to if we are actually going to facilitate were going facilitate that and were going to that, thats not what to indulge that, thats not what a is for. To indulge that, thats not what a okay. S for. To indulge that, thats not what a okay. Well, i think parents okay. Well, i think parents should be charge. Absolutely. Should be in charge. Absolutely. What market gb what are your thoughts market gb news. Com next in big news. Com next up in the big story rishi sunak strikes story as rishi sunak strikes a deal nhs consultants, would story as rishi sunak strikes a d next. The newsreaders wearing children are being transitioned at schools in england without the parents knowledge. Thats the topic of my big opinion. Will. The emails are coming in thick and fast. Hillary says. Mark, ive been a teacher and am an author and illustrator of childrens books. I have therefore studied child psychology. I think this insane psychology. I think this insane fashion is fashion of transitioning is going cause so much mental going to cause so much mental damage to youngsters. These people , says steve, are weird. People, says steve, are weird. Theyre freaks, says steve. Im an ugly man and sometimes wish i had a pair of boobs to play with. Just because you feel like it doesnt mean you do it doesnt mean you have to do it. Mental problems, not physical, about hi physical, how about this . Hi mark, the childs parents mark, if the childs parents were doing this, the kids would be taken into care. It is child be taken into care. It is child abuse, simple. And last abuse, pure and simple. And last but not least, dave says, hi mark, youve just about said it all in your introduction. What a load of tosh this all is. Keep up the good work. Well dave, thank you for that. Lets keep thank you for that. Lets keep those emails coming mark at gbnews. Com. Time now gbnews. Com. But its time now for big story. And whilst for the big story. And whilst the government to the government have agreed to pay the government have agreed to pay , nhs consultants an pay, nhs consultants an increased amount end the increased amount to end the threat of strikes, the Junior Doctors and rail workers continue to threaten to down tools. Are the government right tools. Are the government right tools. Are the government right to face down unions . Si king inflation busting pay rises . And would an incoming Labour Government fold to the likes of the rmt and the British Medical Association . Lets ask the most fearless journalist in britain, former editor of the Sun Newspaper , owner and founder of newspaper, owner and founder of talksport radio, Kelvin Mackenzie kelvin. I think rishi sunak deserves some credit for standing his ground with the unions. Would we see the same resolution in under labour . Absolutely. Wouldnt they will throw their hand in at 100 miles an hour. Itll be a shocking aspect of a, you know, hugely powerful Labour Government. So lets look at it one by one on the doctors, the consultants. Its no wonder they consultants. Its no wonder they settled. They got a 19 pay hike. Wed all settle for 19. Many would settle for 9 or actually because its a monopoly and they belong to a trade union, they can charge whatever they like and they can walk out. When the consultants walked out, that was a new low for, for even for the nhs. So the Junior Doctors are saying to themselves, right. Well weve now got a sighting shot. Well give up 35, but the minimum well go for is 19 and therefore theyll settle for 25. And starmer will say, where do i sign . Now we look upon the other aspect of it , which sign . Now we look upon the other aspect of it, which is sign . Now we look upon the other aspect of it , which is aslef. Aspect of it, which is aslef. Now, honestly , i recognise its now, honestly, i recognise its a job. I dont believe driving along a straight rail line , for along a straight rail line, for four days a week. And if you actually threw in their, their average sick days, theyre basically doing about 3 to 3 and a half days a week over the yean a half days a week over the year, they get 60,000 for it. Theyve been offered 65,000. So what do they do in each one of the Network Areas over the country . Over the next week, country . Over the next week, they will be on strike, and, and theyre going to be on theyre going to have an overtime ban for three days. They are shockers. The good news is that nobody cares anymore. The aslef nobody cares anymore. The aslef could stay on strike for a thousand years. And whereas , you thousand years. And whereas, you know, in my old editing days , know, in my old editing days, this would be a massive story. The train guys going on strike, they can go on strike forever. It doesnt affect us anymore. Why because we have now got something called working from home. And we have computers which even conduct these kinds of conversations so we dont care about them. So i am very much in favour of doing a wapping, which is actually say to them, i tell you what, now comes the time for testers. Were going to lock you out rather than you locking us out. They are using ordinary innocent people to as their as their kind of great bulwarks for a pay rise. Its a disgrace. But when labour come in, i mean, theyve got a whole load of ideas in the industrial space which are going to be a nightmare for Small Businesses anyway. For instance, one being from the day businesses anyway. For instance, one start, being from the day businesses anyway. For instance, one start, you eing from the day businesses anyway. For instance, one start, you are] from the day businesses anyway. For instance, one start, you are entitledie day businesses anyway. For instance, one start, you are entitled toiay you start, you are entitled to a say whether you want to actually come into the office all the time, right . This is from day one, right . And day, and also on day one. You can also say that actually , do you know what . Im actually, do you know what . Im not sure that my Mental Health can stand going to work at all. Is there something you can accommodate me with. And this is being brought in by the conservatives basically, as well as labour. Honestly, the turning up to work these days, it would be easier if Somebody Just sent round a securicor van round to your house and handed you the money and said you dont need to bother to do any work right now. We a country is we are a poor country who is becoming poorer because our excuse me, our productivity is now worse. What about this . Its now worse. What about this . Its now worse. What about this . Its now worse on an hourly basis than france. So we used to laugh at france about being idle and all the rest of it. Its our country is in a very difficult state. Well, calvin, youre absolutely right. Weve got £2. 6 absolutely right. Weve got £2. 6 trillion worth of debt. Weve got a deficit , which trillion worth of debt. Weve got a deficit, which means day to day spending more is going out than comes in. The next time ihear out than comes in. The next time i hear someone say that britain is a rich country, im going to throw up. It really infuriates me. You mentioned wapping. Me. Now you mentioned wapping. Of that was your of course. That was when your former the rupert former boss, the great rupert murdoch, faced down print murdoch, faced down the print unions relocating to wapping. Unions by relocating to wapping. Lets talk about the 80s, because you became the editor of the sun in 1981, when britain was being held to ransom by the unions, culminating in the miners strike in 1984. Is there a danger that we could return to those dark days . Those dark days . Well, its very difficult to work out what set of workers now can actually have you by the cojones anymore. The miners had our country like that and had won every dispute for literally 3040 years. So had the printers , 3040 years. So had the printers, by the way, until they came out against rupert, in which he said, well, actually i built another factory down the road, and thats your lot. So that was and thats your lot. So that was a great moment by anybody who worked in the print during those days. Moment in days. The greatest moment in their was seeing these their lives was seeing these rather violent lefties rather nasty, violent lefties being thrown out of work. It was a being thrown out of work. It was 6 joy, being thrown out of work. It was a joy, an absolute joy. Now, a joy, an absolute joy. Now, today, thats not the same. Who would have guessed that in the 80s even the doctors would have gone on strike . Who would have even thought that was possible . So i dont believe that we are going to go through that. However, i do recognise a set of circumstances if you are circumstances where if you are the one thats writing the check for the party thats in power to keep them in power, then they are going to have pay you are going to have to pay you back some manner. And its back in some manner. And its quite clear that the Prime Minister of the day, starmer. Im not sure how hell im not sure how long hell last, by the way, but, will in fact want to repay the trade union movement. It will be a nightmare for our country in which we will have. Im afraid which we will have. Im afraid im too old. So old for this that i im too old. So old for this thati can im too old. So old for this that i can remember Harold Wilsons beer and sandwiches on number 10, when finally he turned round to jack jones and hugh scanlon and said, get your tanks off my lawn. I believe tanks off my lawn. And i believe that were going to face, even although it seems unlikely we are going to face the fact that trade unions have a much bigger role to play in public life than they have done over the last 14 years. Now, of course, kelvin labour will argue that the tories have made a horlicks of industrial relations over the last couple of years , and that they will of years, and that they will work constructively with the unions to give workers the money they deserve. And of course, the nurses , the doctors, the medics, nurses, the doctors, the medics, the consultants and the rail workers will argue that they have had real terms pay cuts. But listen, lets get on to another quick story before you go. Kelvin, you went viral this week and im not referring to your robust physical health. You put out a tweet which was seen by over a Million People, all rightly pointing out that Waterloo Station, one of the busiest in the country, was completely empty at 8 00 in the morning. Its a friday morning. Its a working day demonstrating that the country has ground to a halt. Was a brilliant tweet. Halt. It was a brilliant tweet. Now you got done by twitters community censors , who were very community censors, who were very pedantic, challenging the suggestion that its the busiest train station in europe. Thats not the story is it . The story is that britain has lost its work ethic. Work ethic. No, that was obviously put out by some lefty, by the way. Theyre quite right. Theyre quite right. The trouble, the trouble Waterloo Station is trouble with Waterloo Station is , south east. And , comes from the south east. And after was number one in after covid it was number one in the uk before covid. And then after covid because it has so many people commuting to london. It became number two behind liverpool street. So im very liverpool street. So im very sorry to those lefties out there. It gave you a gave you a victory which doesnt happen very often. I must be honest with you. Yeah, but the point stands doesnt it, kelvin. Yeah the point stands that Waterloo Station, 54 Million People year come there people a year come into there and on that particular escalator, there was nobody. Escalator, there was nobody. There was. Right. Ive got two other photos. It had one person on the station on the jubilee line. Well, you know how busy the jubilee line through green park, bond street, my god, everywhere. Right and the other one was the underground ticket to go into the underground from the main station. Right. That was completely deserted as well. This is a major issue and it is a working from home issue. A working from home issue. Right. And i dont entirely blame the workforce. The workforce. All right. There are idiots like the, like the office of National Statistics who are now saying theyre going to go on strike because theyre being told theyve got to come back to work two days from, from work for two days from, from literally day. Literally from the other day. Oh, really . Do take it easy in the Civil Service pace yourself there. Big issues out there, matey. Right i know, but not only that, that is all over the nafion only that, that is all over the nation now. Its one of the reasons why the train drivers cant get a pay rise. Because actually theres two reasons. One, theres no money anyway. And secondly , what theyve and secondly, what theyve discovered is that they havent got the leverage. So youve got these guys from aslef and rmt giving it all of that. Actually, everybodys saying, really, im so sorry, im working from home, calvin love it. The clock is against us. The clock is against us. You never take a day off. Well catch up soon. My thanks to fleet street legend Kelvin Mackenzie. Next up, as it shifts to left, would margaret to the left, would Margaret Thatcher even make it into this modern Day Conservative Party . Ill be asking her former top adviser, nigel eight. Nine. Ten. Now, downing street has been accused of blocking true blue conservative candidates from standing in the general election as it wages a battle for the future of the tory party. Those on the right of the party believe that rishi sunak is trying to purge it. Of those who support low tax, small state conservatism so that it will be dominated by centrists. After the election. In writing in the the election. In writing in the telegraph today, their top columnist alison pearson, goes as far as to argue that even a young Margaret Thatcher wouldnt get on the candidate list in todays tory party. Is this true . Well lets speak to the former aide to Margaret Thatcher. Foreign policy analyst and contributor to the telegraph newspaper , nigel gardiner. Newspaper, nigel gardiner. Nigel. Margaret thatcher famously led the conservatives for over a decade, winning three landslide election victories and transformed britain. How has the conservative party changed since she was in charge . She was in charge . Well, mark, thank you very much for having me on the show today. And i think unfortunately, the conservative party changed dramatically party has changed dramatically over the course of the last 2 or 3 decades since the end of the thatcher era, and it has changed for the worse. The party has shifted significantly leftwards on many, on many fronts recently, especially under under rishi sunak. I think under boris johnson, there was a reversal of the sort of leftward trend , but the sort of leftward trend, but with boriss exit and then of course, the removal of liz truss , the party has, moved back to its sort of leftward shifting trajectory. And i think that Margaret Thatcher would be hugely dismayed with the direction the conservative party is moving, today. Direction the conservative party is moving, today. And i think is moving, today. And i think she would be greatly saddened to see the current state of the of the conservative party now heading, according to most polls, towards a historic , polls, towards a historic, defeat, unless things are dramatically changed and its very disappointing to see, where the conservative party is today dominated basically by, by what Margaret Thatcher would have called a wets , lefties really called a wets, lefties really anti thatcherites and, and i think that, the conservative party is in a downward spiral and trajectory, hopefully after the election there will be new, thatcherite, leadership that can restore, conservatism to the conservative party, which is, which is greatly needed. Which is greatly needed. Why have the tories shifted to the centre . Do you think, nigel, is it the influence of tony blair . Is it the idea that the Centre Ground is where elections are won and lost . Yeah, thats thats a good point. I do think that, im blairs election victories certainly had a big impact upon the conservatives own direction, and i think the, you know, the cameron years certainly , cameron years certainly, represented a significant shift to the Centre Ground , even to the Centre Ground, even towards the left, actually under david cameron. And its absolutely astonishing that cameron is now back in the cabinet as foreign secretary lecturing the israelis about how to conduct war against to conduct their war against hamas. And i think the fact that hamas. And i think the fact that you have, you know, cameron back in the cabinet is an illustration just how far the illustration of just how far the conservative government has has fallen. Today. And we need another thatcherite revolution inside the conservative party it really needs to have a fundamental, shake up, really. And i have to say that at the moment the outlook is incredibly, incredibly grim. The conservatives can only win if they stand upon a platform of conservative policies. Otherwise their own voters will abandon them as they are doing now. Of course, many are moving towards a reform , but, a large number of a reform, but, a large number of the conservative party voters cannot see any value in todays supporting the conservative party. The conservative party has to rediscover its thatcherite and churchillian roots. It has to move to the roots. It has to move to the right, if it has any hope of winning elections again, lets see if we can nile, bring in my top pundits to join the conversation. Journalists and writer Benedict Spence, political commentator rebecca jane, and columnist and Television Personality nina myskow , benedict. If margaret myskow, benedict. If Margaret Thatcher was in the conservative party, how would she be characterised at this moment in time, and would she have any chance of becoming leader . I mean, i think shed have a fantastic chance of becoming leader, but thats just because all it takes is for somebody to throw their hat in the ring, and that interrupt that person is just to interrupt you benedict, just to you briefly, benedict, just to interrupt you briefly. Wouldnt Margaret Thatcher, if tory if she was on the tory backbenches, be labelled an backbenches, now be labelled an extremist far right, extremist or far right, extremist or far right, extremist in terms of her Economic Policy maybe. I think, liz truss has done a wonderful job of setting fire to the reputation of, thatcherite tories , you know, thats not tories, you know, thats not necessarily a reflection on the ideology itself. And i think a lot more to do with the calibre of the Prime Minister in question. But actually, i think that much more that thats a much more important question. You know, what were talking about now is, you sort of who is you know, the sort of who is going to be the candidates in the next general election. Are they be sort of one they going to be sort of one nafion they going to be sort of one nation tories, they going nation tories, or are they going to yellow tories, to be, you know, yellow tories, as basically as theyre called, basically indistinguishable as theyre called, basically indistinguisiorle they to democrats . Or are they going to be further right . Be further to the right . Actually, far actually, what i think is far more important many ways is more important in many ways is having are vaguely having mps who are vaguely competent actually, the competent because actually, the thing found thing that weve found throughout of, of throughout this period of, of conservative sheer conservative rule, the sheer number who number of conservative mps who are not up to the task of being mps, let alone ministers , forget mps, let alone ministers, forget them being ministers, actually a lot them, whatever their lot of them, whatever their stripes be, are not, i stripes may be, are not, i think, what members of the pubuc think, what members of the public to expect of public would come to expect of their. So, rebecca jane, their mps. So, rebecca jane, were talking actually were talking about actually getting support think getting back support. I think people see mp people just want to see an mp who, even they differ who, even if they differ on them, things, you get them, on certain things, you get them, on certain things, you get the that can the sense that that person can at the job. At least do the job. Thats do the job and can stand for something. Rebecca, jane nina, if you jane and nina, briefly, if you can. With you. Can. Ill start with you. Rebecca. Very good rebecca. Jane, a very good emails from baz from emails come in from baz from basel, who says, hi, its basel, who says, hi, mark, its the members that make a political not people political party, not the people at ignore the wishes at hq. If hq ignore the wishes of members, then that party of its members, then that party does survive. The does not deserve to survive. The conservative party doesnt seem to why its former to understand why its former members are defecting to reform uk. And your former party of ukip. No, theyre not mark. No, theyre not mark. Theyre going obviously reform, but theyre not going over to ukip. Thats a lot of nonsense, no , its completely nonsense, no, its completely true. At the end of the day, the conservative party are not doing the will of the people, and thats the bit that theyre missing. Weve got to take all of this back to basics. Nobody actually votes for rishi sunak because they think hes a competent leader. People are competent leader. People are scared to vote for alternative parties. Scared to vote for alternative parties. People are scared to vote for alternative parties. People are scared to parties. People are scared to vote for reform because its not about the person that youre actually putting up in a political campaign. Its about political campaign. Its about whos got the most money and the biggest marketing campaign. Theres whole scrap the system theres a whole scrap the system and briefly, nina , and start again, briefly, nina, your thoughts on how Margaret Thatcher would be characterised if was around today . Would if she was around today . Would she in suella she be lumped in with Suella Braverman . Braverman . Well, she probably would be, but dont i dont know what but i dont i dont know what planet youre in deifying planet youre on in, in deifying margaret in way. Margaret thatcher in this way. Were still living with the damage wreaked. Look damage that shes wreaked. Look at sold off. At our water. Shes sold off. She put profits before people, and still look at the and were still look at the housing crisis, selling off council so and but and council houses. So and but and not building enough to replace them. We are still reaping the damage and it makes me laugh just. Well, it makes me weep. Actually to think that she she caused so much of thats wrong with this country at the moment. And yet shes still seen as this, this glorious leader. She may have been a leader. She was a strong woman. But thats where it begins and ends for me. Okay, nigel, ive only got a couple of seconds. Who would the thatcherite apparent be in thatcherite heir apparent be in the Current Conservative Party . Do think . Do you think . Well, i think just just very briefly, if i could respond to ninas comments. Absolutely outrageous. Frankly, margaret outrageous. Frankly, Margaret Thatcher, of course, was a truly great leader. She defeated, of course, the scourge of socialism. She left britain and a far better place , than she found it better place, than she found it in the first place. And i think the british people should be hugely grateful, of course, to Margaret Thatcher for her leadership , with regard to, leadership, with regard to, future of the future leaders of the conservative party. I think there are several very strong contenders, especially Suella Braverman and also priti patel as well. I think there are two very strong conviction politicians strong thatcherites , politicians strong thatcherites, they are far more conservative in every respect than, than rishi sunak, and i think the conservative party has to move to the right if it has any hope of long tum survival and winning future elections. It has to ditch all these wishy washy, liberal style policies and adopt real conservative policies. Again, nigel, always a thrill to have you on the show. Well catch up soon. My thanks to Margaret Thatchers former aide, Foreign Policy analyst, contributor the telegraph , contributor to the telegraph, nigel gardiner. Next up, dont forget, at 10 00 ill be dealing with Prince Andrew and my take attention. You wont want to miss it. Sparks will fly. But next up, the mail newspaper are reporting and cats are reporting that dogs and cats are getting easter. Getting sick after easter. Whats going on . Ill be asking. Tv next. Coming up in my take at ten, ill be dealing with Prince Andrew. You wont want to miss it, but first, mark meets. And it, but first, mark meets. And this evening, one of britains best loved tv vets , the star of best loved tv vets, the star of itvs this morning, as well as his own very Popular Program on more4, vet on the hill, doctor scott miller, doctor miller, welcome to mark dolan tonight. You were born in brisbane, australia, to british parents. When did you realise that animals were going to be your life and career . Good evening mark, look, i realised that quite early, actually, i was the age of seven and i was camping in the outback with my family, and, i crept out of the tent very early in the morning and sort of a sea of red nothingness and i saw a little animal on the horizon. And so i thought that i would see how close i could get to it. And it was, kind of the closest thing ive was, kind of the closest thing pve had was, kind of the closest thing ive had sort of ive ever had to sort of religious experience when got religious experience when i got to this wild to actually touch this wild animal. Think it was at animal. And i think it was at that point that realised that that point that i realised that i to be a i did want to be a palaeontologist anymore, because all dead, all the dinosaurs were dead, so i to be vet. So from i wanted to be a vet. So from the of seven, just, yeah, the age of seven, just, yeah, kept going achieved my dream. Well, you began your veterinary career largest veterinary career at the largest animal australia , Animal Hospital in australia, the rspca clinic in sydney. What brought the uk . Brought you to the uk . So, as you say, my parents were both british. So, i was born in australia, but i had a british passport, and, id studied longer than most of my friends , at the age of 24, friends, at the age of 24, i thought, you know what . Im going to, head back to the home country, i thought it was only going to be two years. And here i am, over 25 years later. So, its not been too bad for me at all. Im really worrying story today. I dont know if it crossed your radar, scott, about pets that have been poorly after easter. Theyve been eating all sorts of things. Not just chocolate, but sultanas bits of cake and god knows what else, these festive occasions are a bit of a problem for pets, arent they . Arent they . Yeah, they can be quite challenging, i think, because we treat ourselves, we feel that we should be treating our animals, but because they are a completely different species to us, sometimes forget that us, we do sometimes forget that some which are perfectly some things which are perfectly fine be toxic for fine for us can be toxic for them. So as you say, sultanas them. So as you say, sultanas the classic everyone knows about chocolate, but, theres more. Sort of sleuth like toxins for example, theres, theres certain types of sugar xylitol , certain types of sugar xylitol, for example. Its an artificial sweetener. Its present in a lot of different foods that we eat, but it can cause significant hypoglycaemia, low blood, low blood sugar, which can be really dangerous for dogs, onions as well, is a very common thing. Found a lot of foods that we like and is also toxic for dogs. And then theres, you know, certain things that we bring into the household which are very flowers, very toxic for cats, flowers, for example, types for example, certain types of lilies against for example, certain types of lilieliquid against for example, certain types of lilieliquid off against for example, certain types of lilieliquid off their against for example, certain types of lilieliquid off their and inst the liquid off their fur and that really their that can really frazzle their kidneys. Yeah , its a tricky kidneys. So, yeah, its a tricky old world. We ask them to come into lives, but do have into our lives, but we do have to mindful things that to be mindful of things that maybe good for them. Maybe arent so good for them. Indeed, youre brand well, indeed, youre a Brand Ambassador and cat ambassador for the dog and cat food barking who food company barking heads, who do very popular. Do a brilliant job very popular. Good range of food, of course. Other pet food brands are available. What should we be feeding our cats and dogs . Whats best diet . Whats the best diet . Well, thats a controversial one there. Mark, look , i think one there. Mark, look, i think as long as its completely balanced , then, im happy as balanced, then, im happy as that. I just want to make sure that. I just want to make sure that that animals are getting all the vitamins and minerals that they need to maintain a Healthy Lifestyle , when it comes Healthy Lifestyle, when it comes to different types of foods, some people are really keen on on the raw food diet. Other people, just are happy with kibble. But for a lot of people out there who are really struggling, with, you know, paying struggling, with, you know, paying for their own food, let alone paying for dogs, food and cats food as long as it says completely balanced, on the packaging , then i think youre packaging, then i think youre absolutely fine to, to feed it, to feed it to your pets. Million dollar question. Are you cat or a dog person, im you a cat or a dog person, im going to sit firmly on the fence on that one, to the point i get splinters. Ive got two of each, and absolutely, love them both. They have different, facets to their personalities that i, i love and cherish. So, yeah, im going to sit on the fence, if thats okay. Youve had to do serious operations on loved animals operations on much loved animals whilst being by a tv whilst being filmed by a tv crew. Do you handle pressure crew. How do you handle pressure like that . Well, i mean, i think doing the job for 25 years has meant that im pretty cool, under pressure. And the job in itself is highly pressurised, im actually finding myself. Im here, at in a hotel room because im here to help a friend who , im here to help a friend who, has just finished circumnavigating the uk, he is now, at the point where his dog needs to , pass on. And so im needs to, pass on. And so im here to kind of support him in doing that. Theres the job can be really difficult and really challenging at times , filming challenging at times, filming it, i think, for me is a way for, for me to invite people into the world that that i inhabh into the world that that i inhabit and hopefully get them onto my side of thinking, which is that animals are just as important as people, and we should be respecting them, caring for them and cherishing them because they just add quality to all of our lives, listen, ive only got a couple of seconds. Whats your view of designer pets and all of the breeding that goes on, the word designer and pets shouldnt go side by side to start with, and theres a lot of breeding of animals thats all about looks and not about personality. And i think we all know that in all relationships, focusing on looks and personality a very and not personality is a very dangerous animals dangerous idea. So animals should be bred to be able to breathe and to be healthy. Not by the way they look, by the way that they look, scott, hope your friends pet scott, i hope your friends pet is going okay. What is going to be okay. What a thrill have you on the show. Thrill to have you on the show. Do see again do come and see us again soon. You scott, have a you can find scott, lets have a look doctor scotty m on look at doctor scotty m on instagram. Brilliant. Thank you. Scott catch up soon. Next up, ill be dealing with Prince Andrew in no Uncertain Terms in my take at ten. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Good evening. Welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. Storm kathleen continues to bring some very windy conditions across the uk through saturday evening and into sunday. 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But it will be briefly drier start for many briefly a drier start for many of on sunday, with further of us on sunday, with further showers, though, pushing their way as go way north and eastwards as we go through morning. Again. Through sunday morning. Again. These places, these could be heavy in places, perhaps hail thunder perhaps some hail and thunder mixed could cause mixed in too, and could cause some localised flooding across southwestern parts. Southeast England Holding on to england definitely holding on to the best of the sunshine, but with a strong southwesterly breeze whole of the breeze across the whole of the uk, take the edge uk, well take the edge off those temperatures. Despite those temperatures. But despite being degrees monday, being 16 or 17 degrees monday, well dry across northern well start dry across Northern Ireland and much of scotland, but it will increasingly but it will turn increasingly cloudy as head through the cloudy as we head through the morning. Area low morning. Another area of low pressure moving the pressure moving in from the southwest, turning particularly heavy across western heavy that rain across western parts of england and into northern later. Further Northern Ireland later. Further unsettled weather through the first week, with first part of next week, with temperatures generally a little bit average. There are bit above average. But there are some something a little some hints of something a little bit in week. Bit drier later in the week. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Its 10 00. On television. On its10 00. On television. On radio and online. In the United Kingdom and across the world. This is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten. How do you solve a problem like Prince Andrew . Ill be dealing with the disgraced royal who is the subject of two major hollywood films, one of which is out this weekend. My unofficial verdict on randy a e at ten. You wont want to miss it. And after a tough year, finally, some good news. Charles and camilla celebrate their 19th wedding anniversary. Reaction to this great royal romance with the queen of us royal reporting. Kinsey schofield. Plus tomorrows newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from my top pundits. There you from my top pundits. There you go. Mark dolan tonight is your perfect saturday night in crack open a beer, uncork a bottle of pinot grigio or fire up the kettle and tear open the cast of queens. Because we got work to do. Ill be dealing with Prince Andrew in two minutes time. Im not pulling my punches. First. Gb news royalty with the headlines. Tatiana sanchez. Headlines. Tatiana sanchez. Thank you very much. Mark. The top stories this evening. The top stories this evening. Scotland has 18 regional flood alerts in place and 43 flood warnings as storm kathleen continues to sweep across parts of the country. Around 12,000 households in ireland remain without power this evening after the storm swept across the island. Today, over 140 flights were cancelled as the met Office Issued a yellow warning for wind gusts of up to 70mph have been felt in Northern Ireland and the west of britain, along with the strong winds, though a provisional highest temperature of the year so far was recorded of the year so far was recorded of 20. 9 c in suffolk , two planes of 20. 9 c in suffolk, two planes on the tarmac at Heathrow Airport collided today, causing minor damage to their wings. Airport collided today, causing minor damage to their wings. The minor damage to their wings. The empty Virgin Atlantic 787 was being towed from the stand at terminal three when it clipped the wingtip of a British Airways airbus , which had over 100 airbus, which had over 100 passengers on board. Nobody was injured. Virgin atlantic says the plane had just landed and was being transported to a different part of the airfield. Different part of the airfield. The airline says its carrying out a full and thorough investigation. A conservative mp investigation. A conservative mp says he was the first whistleblower to alert police to the parliamentary honey trap sixteen scandal. Bosworth mp doctor luke evans said he was the victim of cyberflashing as the victim of cyberflashing as the metropolitan police launched an investigation into unsolicited messages with Leicestershire Police on thursday. Tory mp William Wragg told the times hed sent intimate pictures of himself to someone on a gay dating app and was then manipulated into providing colleagues phone numbers. So providing colleagues phone numbers. So far, around a dozen mps staff and journalists are known to have been targeted. A known to have been targeted. A womens rights rally in edinburgh was disrupted by a transgender rights counter protest. Today, the let counter protest. 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Just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com alerts. Now its back to. Mark. Now its back to. Mark. Thanks, tatiana. Welcome to mark dolan tonight. After a tough year, finally some good news. Charles and camilla celebrate their 19th wedding anniversary. Reaction to this great royal romance with the queen of us royal reporting kinsey schofield. Plus at tomorrows newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonights pundits. With me from tonights pundits. With me this evening we have journalist and writer Benedict Spence, political commentator and broadcaster rebecca jane, and newspaper columnist and tv personality, bar none. Nina myskow. Plus, theyll be myskow. Plus, theyll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes and news of and back page zeroes and news of a potential coup at number 10. Regicide at the top is rishi sunak , the outsider . Thats the sunak, the outsider . Thats the number five. So a packed hour and those papers are coming. But first, my take at ten. How do you solve a problem like Prince Andrew, who is currently featuring in more hollywood movies than tom bloody cruise . Netflix have Just Launched a movie called scoop, a drama which gives an insider account of how the team at bbc newsnight secured that infamous interview with andrew in which his efforts to silence the allegations around his sex life back backfired spectacularly. Meanwhile, versatile actor Michael Sheen plays Prince Andrew on amazon prime in a very royal scandal, which charts the story leading up to that tv appearance. Who could blame netflix and amazon for seizing on this material all in the bbc newsnight interview . Instead of distancing himself from convicted paedophile epstein, andrew said that he didnt regret their friendship because it, quote, led to opportunities that were actually very useful. Well, im sure it did. He also admitted to staying in creepy epsteins new york mansion for several days, because it was a convenient place to stay. This convenient place to stay. This was the son of Queen Elizabeth ii. He could have stayed anywhere in new york with a budget for a huge room at any of its finest hotels , and in the its finest hotels, and in the interview, andrew admitted that he took residence at the billionaires pad after epstein had served time for soliciting a minor for the purpose of prostitution. Charming. And when prostitution. Charming. And when asked about the many underage girls photographed leaving the billionaires house, Prince Andrew said as far as i was aware, they were staff. Yes andrew, but what jobs were they doing . They were more likely on the job. Now, in the interview , the job. Now, in the interview, he questioned the accuracy of that photograph with his accuser, Virginia Giuffre, confirming that it is him in the picture, but not necessarily his hand. So picture, but not necessarily his hand. So whats going on . Did he use a stunt double . And hilariously, he denied dancing with Virginia Giuffre at a london nightclub because he says he has a rare condition in which he has a rare condition in which he cannot sweat . Well, hes sweating now, isnt he . As these movies heap more embarrassment and shame on the family now, Prince Andrew denies all allegations made against him and has settled for several Million Pounds against giuffre. But without acknowledging any guilt or culpability, he may well be 100 innocent of any wrongdoing. He could be the victim of a terrible stitch up. He could, who knows . But with his poorly judged actions, its very clear that this right royal numpty has brought this crisis on himself. Brought this crisis on himself. And given that two major hollywood films are dedicated to the story, the damage that this man has reaped on the monarchy , man has reaped on the monarchy, his family and the country is there all to see. So what there for all to see. So what was his response this weekend . Was his response this weekend . Well, he was photographed poncing around his royal estate on a horse without a care in the world. Its been take, take, take from this guy since day one, receiving a multi Million Pound mansion from his mother when he married Sarah Ferguson, only to flog it years later for a huge profit, pocketing £17 million from the sale of a swiss chalet. Nice work if you can get it. Darting around the world at the taxpayers expense are some kind of self appointed business ambassador. What does Prince Andrew know about running a business . He couldnt run a bath, a butler probably does it for him. Prince andrew has all the financial acumen of katie price. Good friend of mine, price. Good friend of mine, katie. I probably shouldnt lump her in with this numpty. So what next for andrew . Well, a few weeks ago i suggested that he should remarry Sarah Ferguson and take a path back to respectability. Discreetly serving the nation behind the scenes and trying to repair the damage and talk about damage. As damage and talk about damage. As well as being relieved of his pubuc well as being relieved of his public royal duties, he lost his military honours, most recently passed over for a promotion to the rank of admiral and most embarrassingly , he was absent embarrassingly, he was absent from the official photos of his eldest daughter , princess eldest daughter, princess beatrices wedding. He didnt even catch the bouquet. Ill be honest, i feel sorry for his two daughters, who are fabulous girls and who have been through hell. Meanwhile, their sweat free old man is still rattling around his 30 room windsor home, the royal lodge. Lets be honest, hes the worlds poshest squatter and hes still living high on the hog. Courtiers, six city cars, banquets. You name it. Although our dynamic new king has cut his ludicrous annual budget of a quarter of £1 million, teaching the queens apparently favourite and in my view, spoilt son, that actions have consequences. Prince andrew could have styled out this crisis if he had some humility and capacity for self reflection, but a top royal insider has told me in confidence that there is no well of goodwill among family members orindeed of goodwill among family members or indeed the staff at the palace who im told cant stand him. My source , who couldnt be him. My source, who couldnt be better connected, tells me that andrew is notoriously pompous and rude. Now, these are allegations for which i dont have tangible evidence. Its what ive been told by an insider. You can decide for yourself. Ultimately, you reap yourself. Ultimately, you reap what you sow. Back yourself. Ultimately, you reap what you sow. Back in yourself. Ultimately, you reap what you sow. Back in the day, what you sow. Back in the day, this horse loving royal was a stallion. Now hes a donkey and hes heading straight for the knackers yard. Your reaction knackers yard. Your reaction mark at gbnews. Com or get to your email shortly. But first, tonights top pundits journalist and writer Benedict Spence, political commentator rebecca jane and columnist and tv personality nina myskow at rebecca jane. Your reaction to the latest drama surrounding Prince Andrew . I watched it today on netflix or the streaming services are available , we were talking about available, we were talking about this actually before, its a nice little drama. It didnt particularly tell us anything that we didnt already know, but, you know, give it a watch. The bottom line is he is what we all know. The bottom line is he is what we all know. Hes the bottom line is he is what we all know. Hes completely all know. Hes completely deluded and stupid. And the best way to solve a problem, like, you know, andrew, is to put him on boat and send him off to on a boat and send him off to france, and thats pretty much all you can with him. He all you can do with him. He needs completely just realise needs to completely just realise what done. But problem what hes done. But the problem is, doesnt it. And is, he doesnt realise it. And for just shows for me that just shows narcissistic so off narcissistic tendencies. So off you p0p, narcissistic tendencies. So off you pop, we dont want anything to do with you. To do with you. Well, i tend to agree with you. The well, i tend to agree with you. The voice of common sense as always. Rebecca jane, nina myskow. Am i being too hard on myskow. Am i being too hard on Prince Andrew . After all, hes never been found guilty of anything. No, youre not being youre not being hard enough, frankly. I mean, the really worrying thing in the last couple of months, since this, the royal family has been so sadly depleted on the kind of public stage is that theres been the odd occasion where hes being sort of trotted out , there was sort of trotted out, there was the Memorial Service for King Constantine of greece and for lack of anybody else , he and lack of anybody else, he and camilla are refused to call her the queen. Shes always camilla, well. Well, they were they led the royal party. What was left of them into the into the chapel , and theres been the odd article in the daily mail, sort of that sort of area trying to say, well , you know, if he say, well, you know, if he married, remarried, fergie, he could be rehabilitated and hed be quite safe. It just doesnt wash. Itsjust be quite safe. It just doesnt wash. Its just awful. Be quite safe. It just doesnt wash. Itsjust awful. Nina nina. Nina. Myskow, nobody gets cancelled on this show. Not on my watch. I just wont have it. Mark dolan tonight is the home of diverse opinion. But did you just say on the National Television and radio airwaves that camilla is not our queen . She is your queen. I dont care to call her the queen. When ihear care to call her the queen. When i hear the name the queen, i think of the queen. Lane. And camilla, to me, is not my queen. Frankly, nina, that could be very deeply offensive to many of my viewers and listeners constitutionally , shes my queen constitutionally, shes my queen and shes your queen too. Shes the kings wife. Why are you so disparaging of camilla . Why dont you grant her the dignity of the title that was approved in advance by elizabeth before she passed . She passed . No, it wasnt, it was not. Thats thats completely wrong. Thats thats completely wrong. She said that charles can call queen consort. Call her the queen consort. Queen consort is very the queen consort is very different. And if she was the queen consort, i would acknowledge as the queen acknowledge her as the queen consort. Acknowledge her as the queen conconsort . Shes the queen . No, consort . Shes the queen . No, shes the kings i think shes the kings wife. I think thats offensive , lena. Thats deeply offensive, lena. Queen, said queen consort. And meant the queen, and if shed meant the queen, she would have said the queen. But she said queen consort, and as soon as charles could, he made her the queen. All right. Well, of course, their opinions will differ on this show. Thats the magic of the program, what do you think about this, benedict . I mean, poor old Prince Andrew cant sink any lower, he . Now, hollywood lower, can he . Now, hollywood are their teeth him. I mean, never say never. That he sink any lower. Dont he cant sink any lower. Dont pre empt it by saying that theres no other depth he could plumb. Im sure that he could come up with something. Nina do you know something . If given a quarter of £1 million and plenty of nothing else but of time to do nothing else but think a reason, a way to think of a reason, a way to plumb the depths. Im sure he could. The first thing could. I think the first thing actually has to be said, of course, about this, this new netflix its based on netflix drama is its based on a book, a good book, which book, a rather good book, which is of more telling you is sort of more telling you about of behind the about sort of the behind the scenes to its scenes aspect to it. Its not meant a sort of meant to be a sort of a replaying of the, the interview itself, because nothing can quite capture the, the sort of the, the rather delicious horror of watching it in real time. And even if you go back again, you know, youre never quite, inoculated from what it is to actually experience that. Do you remember benedict . You sitting on your sofa were you sitting on your sofa that saturday with that that saturday night with your up inside your your toes curling up inside your shoes, going, i cant believe it. I cant believe it. It was one of those, i think, where almost everybody across the country had the exact same physical responses, where you could and could grabbing the cushion and going, make it stop. Going, no, no, make it stop. Couldnt believe what you were seeing. That seeing. Didnt think that it could and it could get any worse. And then it did it was did get worse. It was a magnificent moment of televisual history. Yeah, do do we feel sorry for him . No. Does he have a function . No its rather difficult to know what to do with him. I think seeing him trotted out again, i think it that was all really doesnt it doesnt go down very well, does it . Doesnt sit well. It . It doesnt sit well. Was terrible because he that was terrible because he stood there like a cheshire cat leading way. Leading the way. We want off you go. We dont want you back. For you to think that back. And for you to think that we do. And for you to stand there like the cheshire cat is absolutely crazy indeed. Right. Hes deluded. Youre right. Hes deluded. Youre right. Hes deluded. Deluded . Hes crackers. Deluded . Hes crackers. Is, hes his entire the thing is, hes his entire life. Until two years ago, he was the favourite because he was the queens favourite and he was the queens favourite and he was the chosen son as far as she was concerned. And long after hed been, disgraced, the queen still made it her place to, to treat him as if nothing had gone wrong , so hes had, you know, long enough now to understand what position hes in, but but he is, as you say, deluded. Well, he does like his positions, but thats another story. Listen, your reaction to my take at ten market news. My take at ten market gb news. Com. Careful. Nina manhandled com. Be careful. Nina manhandled a gb news cushion. You dont know whos been sat on one of those things. After a tough yean those things. After a tough year, finally, some good news. Charles and camilla celebrate their 19th wedding anniversary. Reaction to this great royal romance with the queen of us royal reporting kinsey schofield. Plus, how is this massive netflix film about Prince Andrew going down in america . Kinsey has all the next. Well, in an exclusive , explosive well, in an exclusive, explosive piece of television, our brilliant pundit nina myskow has said that Queen Camilla is not her queen at all. Will not use the word queen. This from julie , the word queen. This from julie, who says. Well said nina, camilla is not my queen either. I couldnt agree more. Im 100 not offended by your correct comments , how about this from comments, how about this from barbara mark. That nina lady is so horrible. Where did you get her . Are you feeling the pinch or. Barbara mark dolan tonight is the home of diverse opinion, which is why we love having nina on as well as all of my pundits. And last but not least, siobhan, who says, mark, youve just who says, hi mark, youve just insulted adore insulted many of us who adore donkeys. Dare you say that donkeys. How dare you say that andrew is a donkey donkeys are beautiful creatures and i for one, support the various donkeys sanctuaries who amazing work sanctuaries who do amazing work to lovely animals. To help these lovely animals. Well, ill give you well, siobhan, ill give you that. Andrew, far that. Prince andrew, far inferior to a donkey , its time inferior to a donkey, its time now for us news with the queen of american showbiz, royal and political, debate kinsey schofield, who, course , schofield, who, of course, kinsey is a race winning thoroughbred. Kinsey. Lets talk thoroughbred. Kinsey. Lets talk about reaction to this netflix film scoop, which of course is being shown around the world. Hows it going down in america . Its all about Prince Andrew. Of course. Couise. Course. Thats right. Yeah. I mean, i think that in on Rotten Tomatoes it has incredible scores over 70 with critics and just regular viewers like you and i. You know, it is a fascinating film. And i think that for the most part , you know, you watch most part, you know, you watch billie piper as Sam Mcallister and you know, you see the ins and you know, you see the ins and outs of, of you know, really Good Journalism and it kind of inspires you to get up and do something with your day. Something with your day. Well, most definitely. I think thats the whole point, isnt it . This is going to be isnt it . This is going to be watched by many, princess beatrice, andrews daughter, is upset about the drama. Tell me more. What do you know, kinsey . Well, this was a comment by jennie bond. I think the concern is that she will be upset by her portrayal in this, and it was actually fine. Shes in a blink and youll miss her in the film. But, you know, it does remind people that she did have a hand in the negotiations to secure this interview with Buckingham Palace. You know, there was a little bit of encouragement on her end, and im sure she would like that. You know, part of history to slowly disappear and to go away. History to slowly disappear and to go away. Im history to slowly disappear and to go away. Im sure shed to go away. Im sure shed rather not be associated with that train wreck. Also, with reports from the daily beast in the United States about how both Princess Eugenie and beatrice would be willing to come back and help out the family as things have gotten tough for them health wise. You know, they dont. They dont want these types of incidents brought up again. If thats true, that they are eager to help out wherever they can. Is, you know, not they can. This is, you know, not beneficial that argument, right . Well, most definitely, as i pointed out in my take at ten, im huge admirer of beatrice im a huge admirer of beatrice and and their mother and eugenie and their mother sarah as well, whos been through a tough time, health wise. Lets have some good news, shall we . Kinsey charles and camilla celebrate a special anniversary. Anniversary. Yes, their 19th wedding anniversary is coming up on april 9th, and i didnt realise that they announced that they were going to be engaged just two months before they got married. However they knew each other for 35 years prior to this wedding, but they were eager. They were ready to go. And king they were ready to go. And King Charless former butler, Grant Harrold , has said that he has no harrold, has said that he has no doubt that these two are going to spend a quiet day together on april 9th, behind closed doors. He says theyll probably have a romantic dinner between the two of them. He now, he says theyre not big on celebrations , which not big on celebrations, which is something, as an american, i just cant comprehend because look at that video. Every time i see these two out and about, they seem surrounded by people. There you know, a big there is a, you know, a big celebration. So i typically associate them with large celebrations , that pomp and celebrations, that pomp and circumstance. But grant says that he expects it to be marked privately with perhaps a gift exchange. And since its the 19th wedding anniversary, perhaps its something bronze , perhaps its something bronze, just on the subject of camilla, my view is, and listeners have been very upset by what my top pundit, nina michkov, has had to say about Queen Camilla. Nina michkov has just said on the sofa of mark dolan tonight that camilla is not her queen. She wont use the word queen. The email console has basically melted. In response to that. Theres few people agree, many theres a few people agree, many that dont, and they that that dont, and they think that nina been deeply offensive nina has been deeply offensive about whats about camilla. Whats your reaction . Reaction . I think that theres a place and a time to have a debate like this. I lost two family members to cancer last year , and any to cancer last year, and any time i think about it, i just sob. And this family is going through a lot right now, and i think that we need to have respect for them, and we need to respect for them, and we need to respect difficult that respect the difficult time that theyre and its a cruel theyre having. And its a cruel discussion and its discussion to have, and its unnecessary to have right now. And kinsey, can hear the and kinsey, i can hear the emotion youve emotion in your voice. Youve been royal family been devoted to the royal family since were a little since you were a little girl, and so many my viewers and like so many of my viewers and like so many of my viewers and listeners, youre feeling quite fragile at moment. The quite fragile at the moment. The family through so much family have been through so much , say, we just wish , and as you say, we just wish them well , should we talk them all well, should we talk about a bit of pomp and pageantry , Buckingham Palace to pageantry, Buckingham Palace to have a very special guard shortly. Tell me more. Isnt this going to be fun . Now, this is something that we can look forward to on monday. Its going to to be celebrate 120 years of friendship at Buckingham Palace. Its going to Buckingham Palace. Its going to be guarded for the First Time Ever by french troops. This is dunng ever by french troops. This is during a drill enthusiastically approved by king charles, according to the daily express andifs according to the daily express and its april of 1904, where this agreement was made between the United Kingdom and the french republic, settling a number of controversial matters. And its significance signified a historic understanding between france and britain. Onlookers are going to see 32 french soldiers parade around the grounds of Buckingham Palace, andifs grounds of Buckingham Palace, and its going to be so fun to see. I wish i could be there, but ill be checking social media to get a live look. Its definitely listen. One its definitely listen. One of the most famous comedian comedians in the world, Sacha Baron Cohen, famous for the ali g show, borat many other hits is to split whats going on . You know, this looks like it has a lot to do with the rebel wilson allegations. Now he says. Sacha says that they he split with his wife, over a year ago. Its theyve been trying to deal with it privately , insiders say with it privately, insiders say that some of it also stems from the fact that they moved to australia, so that they could be closer to her family, but really, i think that these rebel wilson allegations that have come out about a emotional and sexual abuse while on the set of one of his movies has negatively affected his brand. Hes threatening defamation. Hes trying to get the book not to be released in certain countries. And obviously its taken a toll on his marriage to where theyve decided they want to publicly split because she does not want to associated it to be associated with it anymore. Most definitely, of course. Anymore. Most definitely, of cousad see them break up. And sad to see them break up. And sacha cohen the Sacha Baron Cohen denies the allegations made book. Allegations made in that book. Kinsey look great to have you every week. Its always the highlight mark dolan tonight highlight of mark dolan tonight on and emotions are on a saturday and emotions are running comes to running high when it comes to all matters royal. And i really appreciate emotive and appreciate your emotive and personally engaged reporting on the big royal stories every week. Thank you sir. Thank you sir. Take care and well catch you in a weeks time. Next up, tomorrows papers with full pundh tomorrows papers with full pundit reaction. Plus is a coup against rishi sunak in the offing. Could he be gone in weeks . Well hear from a top westminster insider in the last well, let me tell you that my pundit, nina myskow, has really put a cat among the pigeons. Shes been on air earlier this evening in response to my take at ten, saying that while she likes camilla, perhaps admires her, shes not her queen. Well the emails have come in thick and fast. This from anthony. I mostly find nina mikhalkovs views views objectionable, but i agree there was one queen agree there was only one queen and simply the kings and camilla is simply the kings wife. Nina is a ninny. We all love Queen Camilla, says pat in newcastle. Im afraid youre wrong in your views about camilla, mark. She is definitely not queen but queen consort. As declared by elizabeth. I totally agree with nina and last but not least on this from sandra, who says mark, for goodness sake, leave Prince Andrew alone. Weve leave Prince Andrew alone. Weve had enough. The media just cant help themselves wallowing in this story, of course, a couple of you have also added that, andrew has not been found guilty of any crimes. So look, thanks for that. Keep those emails for that. Keep those emails coming, mark at gbnews. Com. Next up, were going do the papers up, were going to do the papers. Sebastian where shall we start 7. Sebastian where shall we start . Nice to have sebastian back in the gallery. 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Well, were all birds of a feather here on mark dolan tonight because ive got my top pundits with im delighted to have with me. Im delighted to have the excellent journalist and writer spence , writer Benedict Spence, political commentator rebecca jane dangerous controversial jane and dangerous controversial columnist and tv personality nina myskow, who, nina, i should point out a good percentage of my viewers agree with you that camilla is not our queen. Well, there you are. I mean, you have me here to speak the truth. Definitely. Well, thats, your truth. And youre entitled to it, lets get to some political truths now, if we can. And how about this story in the mail on sunday, rebecca jane, in her own tweets , the proof that her own tweets, the proof that Angela Rayner has been lying. Now, this is a very complicated story. She had a council house. She sold it at a profit. There was some debate about what her primary address was. She may or may not have evaded Capital Gains tax of a couple of thousand pounds, but its not about the amount of money, is it . Its about whether she misled the public and her own boss, keir starmer , in regard to boss, keir starmer, in regard to this story. Well, based on this little article here. So the problem with this article , theyre saying that article, theyre saying that theyve trawled through all of her social media and her pictures and everything else. And claims that she and because she claims that she never at that address, but never lived at that address, but yet theres picture of her yet theres a picture of her from saying, just got from years ago saying, just got home, no home, am i surprised . No absolutely not. Labour is just as bad as the conservative party for lying every opportunity. Do i personally , my personal i personally, my personal opinion, think that shes guilty . Yes, i do , and if the guilty . Yes, i do, and if the first thing they teach you in law school , when we obviously we law school, when we obviously we look at our government and our systems is ministerial responsibility. If you lie, you stand down at are now Benedict Spence. Angela rayner has denied any wrongdoing. Shes had top experts looking at her case. Shes not found to have acted inappropriately. Similarly, inappropriately. Similarly, shes got the support of her boss, keir starmer. But heres boss, keir starmer. But heres the truth the story wont go away. It wont go away. And i mean, thats correct because obviously the labour party is likely to win next general election as win the next general election as and when that be we ever and when that may be if we ever get around to having one. So, you this somebody you know, this is somebody who is a of is going to wield quite a bit of power. Therefore right power. And it is therefore right that, know, focus is put that, you know, focus is put onto persons affairs. Onto that persons affairs. I mean, was interesting that mean, it was interesting that you though, that he you said that though, that he that has the support her that she has the support of her boss, starmer. I wonder boss, keir starmer. And i wonder if actually she does necessarily because actually, throughout his sort time as leader, she has sort of time as leader, she has been, i wouldnt say a constant thorn side , but shes thorn in the side, but shes always there as a sort a always there as a sort of a champion of slightly further champion of the slightly further to of the party and is to the left of the party and is often sort of touted up as an alternative leader. Alternative potential leader. I know bit of know that shes a bit of a darling westminster people, darling of westminster people, because think that thats because they think that thats what north are what people in the north are like. Very sort of like. Shes a very good sort of pastiche of that. But nonetheless, know, she is a nonetheless, you know, she is a very do very able politician. But i do think has been sort of think that she has been sort of posited a of a leadership posited as a bit of a leadership threat, potentially. Think threat, potentially. I think the labour in a very labour party is in for a very difficult couple of years when it in, and thats because it gets in, and thats because of economic and social of the economic and social situation inherit. Situation its going to inherit. I Keir Starmers i think sir Keir Starmers popularity i think sir Keir Starmers poplasrity i think sir Keir Starmers poplas long as might like. Last as long as he might like. Popularity well, right now hes hes leading in polls. Hes leading in the polls. I think know exactly what i think you know exactly what i mean. Hes going to win a landslide. But going to landslide. No, but hes going to win landslide. And i think win a landslide. And i think that any sort of support for the labour away. Labour party will eek away. And then calls then you will get the calls rather quickly about changing in direction. And i think Something Like would be a like Angela Rayner would be a viable or seen as by some members of the party, members of the labour party, a viable alternative. So does she viable alternative. So does she necessarily have the support of sir starmer . Yes, in sir keir starmer . Yes, in theory, in public, but not theory, in public, but im not sure too be sure that hed too be disappointed at the idea of his deputy taken down a peg or deputy being taken down a peg or two, especially given, of course, shes the person course, shes the first person to on about tory sleaze, to go on air about tory sleaze, tory shes always tory corruption. Shes always the person out there, so the first person out there, so im hes probably secretly im sure hes probably secretly rather has happened. Is no love lost between there is no love lost between the and of course, the two of them. And of course, keir starmer infamously tried to fire and gave her more fire her and then gave her more jobs backlash. Nina jobs after a backlash. Nina myskow Benedict Spence has given us bit story. There. Myskow Benedict Spence has given us bit story. There. Is us a bit of a story. There. Is keir popular . Us a bit of a story. There. Is keiiwell popular . Us a bit of a story. There. Is keiiwell , popular . Us a bit of a story. There. Is keiiwell , youopular . Us a bit of a story. There. Is keiiwell , you know, . Us a bit of a story. There. Is keiiwell , you know, the trouble well, you know, the trouble is, and i dont vote labour. The trouble is that he has no charisma whatsoever. No, this is charisma whatsoever. No, this is the big problem. He has done an absolutely brilliant job in four years of pushing to one side the tory left. Hes hes hes kind of holding them down. Hes got rid of them and hes holding them down. You mean you mean the hard left of the labour party. Hard left of the labour party, right. Hes hes hes, hes dealt with them. And hes hes dealt with them. And in space of time in a fairly short space of time actually. And hes kind of actually. And, and hes kind of steaming ahead. And the trouble is he said he, he has no charisma as a, as a, as a personality. And people just dont warm to him. And this is a dont warm to him. And this is a big stumbling block. I mean, in the, in the light of, of the, of the, in the light of, of the, of the tory disaster because they, you know, completely toast it, you know, completely toast it, you know, completely toast it, you know, it doesnt matter who almost who the leader is thats there, but having having said that , you know, if Angela Rayner that, you know, if Angela Rayner has, has actually, you know, pulled a swifty on this one, that to me is not as bad as a tory mp who has sent, im allowed to say dick pics. You just did, admitted to saying, nina, nina, youre on the warpath tonight, arent you . What did they put in your tea . No, tea . No, no, tea . No, no, a sending dick pics. Not just that. Not said it again but has retained whip. But but has retained the whip. And that with any and i dont mean that with any other in picture other that in the picture as well. Well could be. You well. No. Well it could be. You never know. But again not only has retained the whip, but youve got jeremy hunt, the charleton. Glad you said that right. Glad you said that right. Coming. Exactly. I was very careful coming out and congratulating him for apologising, you know, like he was brave or something. Yes. Yes. This is outrage. Hes saving his skin. This is outrageous. It is absolutely outrageous. And i know if you , Angela Rayner, you know if you, Angela Rayner, you all that happened before she was even an mp. I would rather have even an mp. I would rather have Angela Rayner. Never mind what party shes from then. An idiot. An idiot who do Something Like that. And a chancellor who will defend him just because its the party line and they cant take another by election. Benedict i think its poetic that an called willie wragg that an mp called willie wragg has been held hoist by a visage of appendage. I think of the male appendage. I think that sort of going that was always sort of going to happen stage. But happen at some stage. But i actually agree. I think the actually do agree. I think the fact that the whip has not been revealed, and revealed, we can sit here and we can who has can say that somebody who has been a victim. Been blackmailed is a victim. You say that and still say. You can say that and still say. But handing over personal information of colleagues based but handing over personal infytheation of colleagues based but handing over personal infythe blackmail. Leagues based but handing over personal infythe blackmail filejues based but handing over personal infythe blackmail file is,s based but handing over personal infythe blackmail file is,s bliszd on the blackmail file is, is, is a violation, not just of your colleagues trust. It is. I suspect, you know, a violation of just about everything he could come up with. I think it shows of shows tremendous lack of judgement who is judgement from somebody who is an a representative an elected mp, a representative of people. And if he of the people. And i think if he hadnt of the people. And i think if he hadnt resigned, actually, i do feel that the party should have taken away from him , taken the whip away from him, you draw the you know, where do you draw the line . You its line . Where do you go . Oh, its fine. You can be a victim and that means you can get away with passing phone that means you can get away with passing or phone that means you can get away with passing or or phone that means you can get away with passing or or state phone that means you can get away with passing or or state si ione that means you can get away with passing or or state si king numbers or or state si king dont how a line dont know how to draw a line where he was manipulated. Well, you know, should have gone police if was you gone to the police if he was you by saying hes manipulated, hes saying idiot. Not saying im an idiot. Im not to be we stories every and we get stories every couple weeks now about couple of weeks now about chinese russian espionage chinese and russian espionage attempts it attempts in westminster. And it turns really easy. Turns out it was really easy. You dont need of covert, you dont need sort of covert, particularly intelligent software. To get software. You just need to get on find homosexual on grindr and find a homosexual tory mp and they will hand out this as its sweets. This stuff as if its sweets. I could have told you that from nine of investigation. Could have told you that from niniits of investigation. Could have told you that from niniits not of investigation. Could have told you that from niniits not hard yestigation. Could have told you that from niniits not hard to tigation. Could have told you that from niniits not hard to known. Its not hard to know. Its not hard to know. Oh no, i say , it depends, oh no, i say, it depends, would you like the cushion . Depends what depends what mood youre in. My goodness gracious. I feel ive lost control of the program now, now would be a good time for a very short intermission. But next up, short intermission. But next up, more front this is an more front pages. And this is an exclusive in the telegraph is a coup against rishi sunak in the offing . Could he be gone in weeks . That is being speculated by the telegraph. Tonight ill get reaction from a top westminster insider. Next. Well, its been a very busy show. Dont forget mark dolan tonight returns tomorrow, and weve got my big opinion. Take at ten. And King Charless biographer for mark meets. But more front pages. And this one is a corker. Lets take a look at it. This is, i think, a significant moment in relation to the war in gaza. Rishi sunak to the war in gaza. Rishi sunak calls for an end to the war in gaza. Pm shocked and appalled by the killing of british heroes. The killing of british heroes. Well, ive got two stories on the go in relation to sunak a his position on the war in gaza and his future at number 10. Lets get reaction to both of those stories from tv news legend michael crick. Michael, thank you so much for joining legend michael crick. Michael, thank you so much forjoining us for the last word. Ill bring my punstinin for the last word. Ill bring my pundits in in just a moment. Can i first of all get your reaction to this developing story on the front page of the express sunak calls for an end to war in gaza. That strikes me as a significant intervention. Whats your reaction . Well , it reaction . Well, it depends the reaction . Well , it depends the context, well, it depends the context, is what matters here, and id be slightly sceptical, given its the express and frankly, it doesnt really matter what britain says. I mean, there was britain says. I mean, there was a time 50 years ago when i mean, after all, britain was involved in the creation of the state of israel. We were influential with regard to the israelis. Now, we regard to the israelis. Now, we dont really matter. Its the americans that matter. And, of americans that matter. And, of course, the Biden Administration has grown increasingly not just exasperated, but angry. I think with the way things have been going in gaza, the way in which, their constant bleedings for aid to be allowed in for, the israelis to be much more careful about their targeting and the this, the appalling death toll. But i think by anybodys, anybodys judgement. So im but i think by anybodys, anybodysjudgement. So im not anybodys judgement. So im not sure it really matters if rishi sunak , does think that or has sunak, does think that or has said that , and it may well be said that, and it may well be that he just believes there should be an end to the gaza and the war in gaza, in the same way that the king, expressed a sentiment like that, that he wants the war to end, rather that hes hes calling for, the israelis to stop michael, i think, to read the article. Yeah. Michael, i think youre right to take the story with a pinch of salt. But i think its all about mood music, isnt it . And i agree that were not key players in the middle east, but i diplomatically i think its diplomatically significant tone of what significant if the tone of what downing street are saying shifts slightly. Im going to downing street are saying shifts slightly. Im going to bring my punstinin slightly. Im going to bring my pundits in in just a moment. But let me ask you, do you think that israel have overplayed their have gone too their hand . Have they gone too far in self defence . Far in self defence . I definitely think that. I think that the event, what we saw last week, is an example, i think, of the way in which the israelis are, frankly, been trigger happy or bomb happy, throughout this, conflict. One, of course, sympathises hugely with, the israelis after what the appalling things that, hamas did, the appalling murder and rape, of october the 7th. But this is a gross overreaction, almost certainly in breach of international law. And it is it isfime international law. And it is it is time for it to stop. I mean, 33,000 people have died and most of them are women and children who are certainly not members of hamas. It is horrific. And i think that in ten, 20 or 100 years time, people will look back on this period and wonder why the west why, frankly, america didnt do more to stop this war, to stop the israelis in the way that, Ronald Reagan did in the 1980s. If Ronald Reagan told the israeli Prime Minister to do something, the israeli Prime Minister, responded. And the americans responded. And the americans have been, weak over this, i think. I mean, there are all sorts of political reasons. Of course, for that, but history wont look kindly, i dont think, on america or the rest of the west over the way in which we have allowed israel , to kill we have allowed israel, to kill at this rate to and kill, many thousands of innocent people, tens of thousands. But, of course, lets not forget that hamas have weaponized innocent people. Theyve had hqs based in the basements of hospitals. Theyve used children , theyve used used children, theyve used women as human shields. But lets stay with us, michael. Lets get the views of my punst lets get the views of my pundits as well. Nina myskow, rebecca jane and Benedict Spence. Benedict, do you think that israel have gone too far in self defence, is hamas still present in in gaza . The answer is yes. So no, i think actually a lot of this is demonstrative of a great deal of squeamishness amongst western audiences. And i amongst western audiences. And i understand why that is, because nobody likes war. Wars are awful. People die at appalling rates. But if compare it to, rates. But if you compare it to, say, battle for raqqa say, the battle for raqqa against isis, actually the rate of civilian deaths is not particularly high. Actually, if you look at many conflicts across the middle east in particular, you will see actually that the numbers of civilians who die in these in these conflicts are vast, much, much more than we would expect them be in other parts of the them to be in other parts of the world. I know that this is world. And i know that this is very difficult for to very difficult for people to stomach. And palestine and stomach. And that palestine and gaza emotive issue, gaza is a very emotive issue, but simply hamas but its not simply about hamas ehhen but its not simply about hamas either. Broader conflict, either. Its a broader conflict, its context when you its a broader context when you need into fact that need to take into the fact that hamas being funded and hamas is being funded and supported by iran. This is as much about the response to iran and showing a face to iran that iran will not, respond to in kind. I think that it is not for us actually in safe here in britain to tell the israelis how it is that they should proceed, given that people only look at this in the context of saying the palestinians are mistreated by the israelis, they dont have to dont have to deal to deal. We dont have to deal with a country like lebanon on our borders. We dont have to deal sort of deal with that sort of insurgency hezbollah. We deal with that sort of insurghave hezbollah. We deal with that sort of insurghave a hezbollah. We deal with that sort of insurghave a nationzbollah. We deal with that sort of insurghave a nation like ah. We deal with that sort of insurghave a nation like iran, ie dont have a nation like iran, which is, know, dedicated to which is, you know, dedicated to our right on our our eradication. Right on our doorstep. Actually, when doorstep. So actually, when people israelis doorstep. So actually, when peopigone israelis doorstep. So actually, when peopigone too israelis doorstep. So actually, when peopigone too far, israelis doorstep. So actually, when peopigone too far, the israelis have gone too far, the israelis have gone too far, the israelis have gone too far, the israelis have gone too far in all wars. There always be breaches there will always be breaches of International Just international law. That is just how wars are. And of course, churchill. And of course, churchill. Churchill flattened dresden in order to defeat hitler, which many to this day still many germans to this day still think was a humanitarian disgrace, jane zoe disgrace, rebecca jane zoe strimpel, columnist in the telegraph, writing in todays papen telegraph, writing in todays paper, says britain has turned against israel. It is an against israel. It is an unforgivable betrayal. Your reaction . Reaction . If theres one thing i hate talking about, its any kind of war, because i dont find myself educated enough. And i think people that are not educated enough on it shouldnt say anything. What i is anything. What i think is ultimately war is horrific. That ultimately war is horrific. That is the bottom line of it. If you start a war, whatever the repercussions are of it, unfortunately you dont get a say in how bad they become. Do i like it . No. Do i think that rishi sunak saying it should it should end is appropriate to be saying now . Absolutely not. It should have been saying it a long time ago. Okay, this is not long time ago. Okay, this is not my bag. Nina myskow a couple of seconds. You agree with michael chck . No, i do not. I think israel has gone too far. I find it very hard to listen to him talking about squeamishness when its about squeamishness when its about if this about people dying. As if this is, you know, like seeing a mouse and going, eek its not that all. Are these are that at all. These are these are people dying 33,000. People actually dying 33,000. Its not just its the its not just that. Its the fact that have stopped aid fact that they have stopped aid getting in that people know they have not they have stopped. No, they stopped aid. No, they have stopped aid. No, they thats why no, they have not. Thats why the getting into gaza. The aid is getting into gaza. The idf is not in charge. No, the is not in control of the idf is not in control of distributing aid. A telephone call to ask taken a telephone call to ask him. Netanyahu open more him. Ask netanyahu to open more crossings which which he has done. Voters want there to be peace there. Joe biden is not going to be. Well, let me tell you, the United States, netanyahu is in thrall to his right wing cabinet. Okay. Let me tell you, the okay. Let me tell you, the clock is against us. Michael crick clock is against us. Michael chck us clock is against us. Michael crick us again soon. Enjoy crick join us again soon. Enjoy the Lake District ill see the Lake District and ill see you at nine. Thanks to you tomorrow at nine. Thanks to maria team for. Maria and the team for. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Good evening. Welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. Storm kathleen continues to bring some very windy conditions across the uk through saturday evening and into sunday. Currently situated out towards the northwest of the uk , slowly pushing its way uk, slowly pushing its way northwards through this evening and start of sunday, and into the start of sunday, but continuing to bring some very winds, particularly very strong winds, particularly across western parts of the uk. Still up in the still seeing gusts up in the sort of 50s or 60s overnight and particularly in northwest scotland, and plenty of heavy showers could lead to showers too. This could lead to some flooding, some localised flooding, particularly southwestern particularly across southwestern parts of the uk, turning a little drier and staying mild overnight. Temperatures around the high single figures, perhaps even low double figures across the south. But it will be briefly a drier start for many of on sunday. Further of us on sunday. Further showers, though, pushing their way as go way north and eastwards as we go through sunday again. Through sunday morning. Again. These in places. These could be heavy in places. Perhaps some hail and thunder mixed could cause mixed in too, and could cause some localised flooding across southwestern southeast southwestern parts. Southeast england on to england definitely holding on to the best of the sunshine, but with a strong southwesterly breeze across the whole of the uk, well the edge off uk, well take the edge off those but despite those temperatures. But despite being 17 degrees, monday being 16 or 17 degrees, monday will dry across northern will start dry across Northern Ireland and much of scotland, but will increasingly but it will turn increasingly cloudy as through the cloudy as we head through the morning. Of low morning. Another area of low pressure moving in from the southwest, particularly southwest, turning particularly heavy across western heavy that rain across western parts of england and into Northern Ireland. Later, further unsettled weather through the first part next week, with first part of next week, with temperatures a little temperatures generally a little bit average. But are bit above average. But there are some of something a little some hints of something a little bit in the week. Bit drier later in the week. Looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. Good evening. Your top stories. Scotland has 18 regional flood alerts in place and 43 flood warnings as storm kathleen continues to sweep across the country. Around 12,000 households in ireland remain without power this evening after the storm swept across the island. Today over 140 flights were cancelled as the met Office Issued a yellow warning for wind gusts of up to 70mph have been felt in Northern Ireland and the west of britain, along with the strong winds, a provisional highest temperature of was recorded of of the year was recorded of 20. 9 c in suffolk. Two planes on the tarmac at Heathrow Airport collided today, causing minor damage to their wings. The empty damage to their wings. The empty Virgin Atlantic 787 was being towed from the stand at terminal three when it clipped the wingtip of a British Airways airbus, which had over 100 passengers on board. Nobody was injured. Virgin atlantic says. Injured. Virgin atlantic says. The plane had just landed and was being transported to a different part of the airfield. The airline says its carrying out a full and thorough investigation. A man has been investigation. A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after the death of a woman who was found unresponsive in a car in east london. Officers were called to hackney early this morning. Police forced entry to the vehicle and tried to resuscitate the woman, but she died at the scene. A man in his 20s who Police Believe was known to the victim, was arrested near the scene. Formal identification of the woman is yet to take place. In other news, the torso found at a nature reserve in scotland, in salford , belonged scotland, in salford, belonged to a man aged older than 40. A Murder Investigation was launched by Greater Manchester police after the body part was found wrapped in plastic at kearsley wetlands. The victim is believed to have been dead for a number of days. Dna tests are ongoing to identify him. And two ongoing to identify him. And two former uk defence ministers have said the uk has failed to prepare for war in a whole nation. Endeavour Outgoing Armed forces minister James Heappey revealed in the telegraph that only ministry of defence officials turned up to an exercise to prepare for wartime scenarios, which was meant for the whole of government. He called on ministers to do more to prepare for conflict. Former defence secretary ben wallace agreed with his colleague and said too many in government were, quote, just hoping everything will go away. Everything will go away. For the latest stories , you can for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. Scan the qr code on your screen, or you can go to gb news common alerts. Now its over to headliners. Headliners. Hello welcome to headliners. Im josh howie taking you through tomorrows newspapers for the next hour. And this evening im joined by the eric and ernie of the headliners crew. Louis schaefer and nick dixon. You dont look happy. You dixon. You dont look happy. You dont look happy about that. Presumably im eric. Presumably im eric. Well,