Projects. Its and the bbc projects. Its and the bbc channel 4 and Production Company banijay uk have launched internal investigations. Russell brand denies all the claims against him. Well in other news today, the government says it will put measures into place to safely manage american bully dogs. The Prime Ministers promised to ban the breed by the end of the year, but home owners arent expected to face a cull of their pets. The governments chief vet suggests the animals should be muzzled in public and neutered. A transition period will also take place and a consultation plan will be launched. Consultation plan will be launched. The former prime launched. The former Prime Minister liz truss, has been speaking about the government saying they should be urged they should be cutting taxes, shrinking welfare spending and raising the retirement age. Raising the retirement age. Speaking at the institute for government online event, liz truss defended decisions made in her mini budget. She argued its unfair to say shed pursued unfunded tax cuts. She says the government needs to act now before its too late. But i before its too late. But i believe that the problem is that i was trying to fix last year still havent gone away and the fact is the country isnt growing fast enough. People are struggling with the cost of living and we need to get on with delivering lower taxes, but also reforms to things like energy and housing to make life cheaper for people and give people more opportunities. Opportunities. But the parliamentary under secretary for enterprise and markets , kevin hollinrake, and markets, kevin hollinrake, says he thinks the Prime Minister doesnt have an easy fix to follow. Fix to follow. I dont think theres any other option than to do what the Prime Minister is doing now, which is we need to balance the books. At the same time as were doing other things like growing the there no easy the economy. There is no easy fix problems of the cost fix to the problems of the cost of living crisis. These are Global International and Global International issues and as hangover of debt as well as the hangover of debt we from covid. The economy we saw from covid. The economy is growing and more quickly than people we people anticipated. We are sorting boats crisis, sorting the small boats crisis, all these the prime all these things the Prime Minister doing, small minister is doing, our small boat , the numbers of people boat, the numbers of people coming to the uk is down around 20, up europe. So we are 20, up 40 in europe. So we are tackling these big issues, but theyre not easy issues to tackle. The mp for bishop auckland, Dehenna Davison , is stepping Dehenna Davison, is stepping down as levelling up minister. She said shes battling chronic migraines and cant commit to the demands of her role. She says its been an immense privilege and wants to continue to focus on her constituents and promote conservatism from the backbenches. Promote conservatism from the backbenches. Is now for american backbenches. Is now for american citizens and one british citizen whove been jailed for as long as eight years in iran are flying back to the United States as part of a prisoner swap. The british man being freed is 67 year old environmental mentalist morad tahbaz as hes british. He also has us and iranian citizenship. Five iranians citizenship. Five iranians imprisoned in the United States have been freed. The prisoner have been freed. The prisoner swap took a year to agree upon and includes the release of nearly £5 billion of money iran earned from selling oil to south korea. Here, conservative mp korea. Here, conservative mp miriam cates has spoken exclusively to gb news today about her belief that britains tax system is putting people off having children. She says shell keep on pushing for more flexibility and more options for families. Our country is really an outlier in the way we treat families. And one of the one of the reasons for that is our taxation system. So we dont recognise families or households in system. So its in the taxation system. So its actually disadvantageous to have children. Whether children. And i asked whether theyd redistributing theyd look at redistributing this that it was much this money so that it was much more flexible so each family could have budget, how could have a budget, decide how they money, they want to spend that money, pay they want to spend that money, pay more time at pay granny, spend more time at home, go to work, but have more flexible child care. But theyre not policy at not interested in that policy at the as said, the moment. And as i said, i think this policy is fairly think this this policy is fairly fixed this parliament. Fixed for this parliament. Lastly , the princess of and lastly, the princess of wales has visited the royal naval station in somerset. Naval air station in somerset. Kate whose commodore in chief of the fleet air arm was shown around the Royal Naval Air station yeovilton, one of the busiest military airfields in the uk. She also spent time in air traffic control, meeting staff and speaking to an airborne wildcat helicopter crew as they came to in land. Ulez gb news across the uk on tv , in news across the uk on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news this is britains news. Channel thanks for that polly. Our Michelle Dewberry till 7 00 alongside me. Scarlett mccgwire the former labour adviser and alex dean, the pr consultant. Ive got a little rule on this programme , rule on this programme, scarlett, when people shouldnt dunng scarlett, when people shouldnt during the News Headlines , im during the News Headlines, im going to get them to repeat it when the show is live. So when you just listen to the headlines there, were talking about the childcare. Matter . Childcare. What was the matter . What would okay, so what would you say . Okay, so miriam says that were Miriam Coates says that were not people children. Said to you while and i said to you while having a two child rule so that if youve got more than two children and you find yourself on only, only the first on benefits only, only the first two get paid for, does two children get paid for, does not encourage people to have children if theyve got precarious jobs. Very good point. Allow very good point. Just allow people have as many children very good point. Just allow peithey have as many children very good point. Just allow peithey want. E as many children as they want. Thats not what i said. Thats not what i said. Alex, any thoughts . I move on. Of course, government policy affects quite profoundly whether people have people decide whether to have children. Its almost a children. I think its almost a truism is that i mean, do you sit there at home and do you think yourself, do you know think to yourself, do you know what, im about to have a child, but what is the government policy . Is that dictating your love lives your lives at the moment, your contraception . You contraception . I dont know. You get in touch, you tell me. Vaiews gbnews. Com you vaiews gbnews. Com or you can get of me as well on get hold of me as well on twitter or x as call at gb twitter or x as we call it at gb news. Theres a story that news. Now theres a story that is dominating, i have to say, pretty much every single news outlet land, quite outlet in the land, quite frankly, land frankly, and beyond the land internationally, would internationally, i would say i speak, course, about russell speak, of course, about Russell Brand. Now i have to be absolutely clear. The absolutely clear. The metropolitan police is now investing, navigating this is an allegation of Sexual Assault against Russell Brand , which against Russell Brand, which dates back to 2003. What that means is that this is now basically a live legal investigation and therefore , we investigation and therefore, we cant do anything that would perhaps prejudice a future trial. But lots of things are happening off the back of this for example, Russell Brands tour promoters, they have basically postponed his his upcoming shows that he was doing. We know the story by now. Were all familiar with it. Hes had a you know, a whole barrage of people coming out and making allegations against him that date back, you know, decades in some cases, beyond. Im very some cases, and beyond. Im very interested your on this interested in your view on this , are you a pr , because not only are you a pr guru and im going to come on to the pr side of it in a second. You are also a barrister lawyer, and got thinking today. And its got me thinking today. So has whether or not it and so it has whether or not it and im pre empting anything, im not pre empting anything, but this actually did make it but if this actually did make it to court, any of these to a court, any of these allegations is the amount of coverage that has had, coverage that has been had, would Russell Brand ever get or someone in Russell Brands position . If it was all things equal position . If it was all things equal, would you get a fair trial in a court of law . Do you think . You can absolutely have a fair trial even after huge amounts of publicity and the trial, for example, of the doctor treated michael doctor who treated michael jackson, who received wall to wall after week publicity, wall week after week publicity, even dwarfing what weve seen in this example . Russell or indeed this example . Russell or indeed the case most recently in this country with kevin spacey , who country with kevin spacey, who was exceptionally high profile , was exceptionally high profile, all went through the media wringer and then some and was, of course, acquitted, which i think demonstrates the worth of the system. The point is this the system. The point is this juries , if the crown prosecution juries, if the Crown Prosecution Service in this country would have to review the evidence and think it was more likely to secure a conviction than not, or pragmatically, now that im no longer in practise, i can say honestly they to. And honestly felt they had to. And either way, they would then bnng either way, they would then bring the in bring a case and the jury in such a case would be instructed by judge to disregard what by the judge to disregard what they had heard or read about the case in the past and focus solely and wholly only on the evidence that was presented before and i must tell you before them. And i must tell you that my experience, least, that in my experience, at least, jurors that seriously. Jurors take that very seriously. And a good system that and weve got a good system that produces people who Pay Attention and that that attention and treat that that responsibility the weight responsibility with the weight it deserves. And as i say, only this weve kevin this year weve seen kevin spacey acquitted of things that people in the repeated people in the media repeated again and again. Again and again and again. Of course, and im going and of course, and im going to come on to the brand aspects in second you, but of in a second with you, but of course, talk about kevin course, you talk about kevin spacey, brand spacey, his brand personal brand professional was professional brand was absolutely come absolutely battered. Will come on a second. Its all on to that in a second. Its all well and good alex well and good saying alex talking about process as it talking about the process as it is. You know jurors essentially forget that youve forget everything that youve seen and all the rest seen and read and all the rest of it. Now when you enter of it. And now when you enter this room, youre blank. Your this room, youre a blank. Your mind blank piece of paper. Mind is a blank piece of paper. People not robots. People are not robots. Its no, but it worked. I mean, i mean, the spacey mean, i mean, the kevin spacey example absolute classic example was an absolute classic of where he had been found guilty in the court of public opinion. Undoubtedly, hed been found guilty in the media when it came to a trial. He was acquitted. Right. And that was it because the jury listened to the arguments. They listened to the arguments. They listened to the arguments. They listened to the evidence and they and they acquitted him. It was and the judge makes sure that this happens and well say, yes, you when he sums up or she sums up, well say, you know , these are well say, you know, these are the things to go away and think about. So they everybody does their best to make sure there is a there is a fair trial. But the thing about Russell Brand is leaving aside the allegation owns i mean, if you just have to listen to what he was doing, what he was saying, and i mean, the way he talked about women, the way he talked about women, the way he treated women, i mean, the classic was i mean, it was just awful , actually, on any was just awful, actually, on any level of when he rang up somebody to say that hed been having sex with the andrew sachs. Yes. To say hed been having and he lost his job as a consequence of that. Yeah, but thats the sort of attitude he had. He had i mean, british people arent stupid. People are very sensible. I think, in this country and they are able properly to separate out the fact that they find somebody repellent, have somebody repellent, as i have found many found Russell Brand for many years, the question of years, from when the question of whether not they are guilty whether or not they are guilty of a criminal offence and of course, all the course, he denies all of the allegations against him, and im sure he may be sure that were he it may be difficult to bring a trial for reasons people may change their mind about willingness give mind about willingness to give evidence. Mind about willingness to give eviderpassed and so none thats passed and so forth. None of things you cant of those things mean you cant bnng of those things mean you cant bring case. They may make it bring a case. They may make it more difficult. Doesnt mean you cant. I have every cant. But i have every confidence to answer the question were he question you were asking. He could trial. Could receive a fair trial. Whatever people of him, whatever people think of him, and including the wider views that they formed about and that they formed about him and whether him or not. Whether they like him or not. Oh, yeah. I mean. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean. I im sure that i mean, im sure that Kevin Spaceys was full of spaceys jury was not full of people who liked massive kevin spacey fans. Yeah, because. Because. Actually, because. Because actually, you are. You mean, ive are. If you are. I mean, ive covered court cases with juries where has been very difficult covered court cases with juries where listenzen very difficult covered court cases with juries where listen t01 very difficult covered court cases with juries where listen to they difficult covered court cases with juries where listen to they diffi i know. Ijust very, very seriously. I know. I just think i dont know. I just think theres something about i dont know way that a lot of know what the way that a lot of the media does kind of behave in these you these examples. And yes, you know therell people know what . Therell be people that say like what you said, oh, you know, i found repulsive you know, i found it repulsive for whatever. For years or whatever. And people like each people werent like him and each of you know, you can of their own, you know, you can like him if you like him, dont like him if you like him, dont like him. If you dont like him. I knew him for a period of time back in my first apprentice. His life, and i actually he life, and i actually thought he was know, so i was all right. You know, so i dont repulsion, but dont share this repulsion, but one things i dont like one of the things i dont like is the way that the media kind of i almost feel like the dying out there, theyre theyre showing which showing his house, which i really disagree hate really disagree with. I hate family home that that part i think awful. Think is awful. E course, i bear in mind, of course, hes got young children, too. I think showing peoples private homes appalling, its think showing peoples private hon prime appalling, its think showing peoples private honPrime Minister|, its think showing peoples private honPrime Minister|, the its think showing peoples private honPrime Minister|, the day, s the Prime Minister of the day, having people clamber over its roof or the person accused of the latest set of allegations about may about of which they may or may not be guilty. And have robustly refute them themselves. I think its quite wrong to show peoples personal homes and so forth. Yeah. And i mean, if you do think its right, i mean, how would you feel if someone made allegations against you and all of a your kids home was of a sudden your kids home was on telly . Wouldnt like it on telly . I wouldnt like it much, i can tell you. What about politician . Theres politician . And theres been a lot about lot of criticism about ed miliband. Can sure like miliband. I can sure like a little clip of it. Ed miliband got quite cosy with Russell Brand people criticising brand and people are criticising now and ed now the labour party and ed miliband for that. Do you think politicians, know , they do politicians, you know, they do kind desperately try and kind of desperately try and attach to whoever is attach themselves to whoever is popular in Popular Culture at that time order that point in time in order to curry favour get votes . Curry favour and get votes . Always do. I mean, they they always do. I mean, i mean, its who are the celebrities who , who who will celebrities who, who who will support a particular party . I mean, and its true of all parties. I mean, obviously labour and the conservatives have the most because because theyre going to get power, whereas frankly , the lib dems whereas frankly, the lib dems and greens are not. But, but, but its , its always gone on but its, its always gone on and, and its and it is always high risk and Russell Brand even at the time was clearly high risk and even even when he was extremely popular he wasnt popular with a lot of the media separated out from the question of Russell Brand and consider the broader question you were asking us about the politics and celebrity. Difficult find very difficult to find a prominent politician from the late 1970s and 1980s who didnt have a picture taken with jimmy savile. Very difficult to find a politician taken who didnt when offered the opportunity, have a photo with stuart hall. These photo op with stuart hall. These are are who legacy are these are people who legacy has shown were absolutely guilty of heinous crimes and some of the worst imagined evil. And yet politicians who didnt know that at the time, happily, of course, had their photos taken. And i dont blame them for that any more. I dont blame look, im a conservative. I dont blame ed miliband a moment for being miliband for a moment for being in a prominent in photographs with a prominent celebrity day. Its celebrity of the day. Its inevitably politician do. Inevitably what politician do. Let me into your other let me tap into your other area expertise, because not area of expertise, because not just being barrister, just being a barrister, youre a man talents, jack , of man of many talents, jack, of many talents. But not just a barrister. You are also pr guru for short. And i wonder when for short. And i wonder when allegations get made about people to this extent in the pubuc people to this extent in the public domain, if theres allegations are to be found , you allegations are to be found, you know, not to be true or whatever , do you think, or actually even in the case or in right now, can someone revive their brand . They can, of course. Its up to a point. Right because part of the trouble weve seen and this is true well beyond this issue, the wheels of the criminal Justice System dont just slowly, they turn just turn slowly, they turn increasing slowly as has increasing slowly as time has gone on, spacey had to wait for some years facing. I know some years before facing. I know that coronavirus played a role in that, but had to take an enormous amount of time, and he lost out. I mean, he lost he lost a lot of parts. I mean, he was he was absolutely not only does that happen, but attitudes hardened towards you. If you emerge out the and if you emerge out the other side and youve been acquitted, therell be plenty of people who who still say, people who who will still say, well, without people who who will still say, well i without people who who will still say, welli wont without people who who will still say, welli wont Touch Without people who who will still say, welli wont touch you. Without people who who will still say, welli wont touch you. So hout fire, i wont touch you. So i dont think allegations of this sort help anyones brand at all. Of course, weve always the sort help anyones brand at all. Of cou has weve always the sort help anyones brand at all. Of cou has always lways the sort help anyones brand at all. Of cou has always liked the sort help anyones brand at all. Of cou has always liked thad sort help anyones brand at all. Of c yours always liked thad sort help anyones brand at all. Of c you know, iys liked thad sort help anyones brand at all. Of c you know, theiked thad sort help anyones brand at all. Of c you know, the pop thad boy. You know, the pop rock idols of the 1960s trashing hotel rooms and taking relatively comparison relatively mild in comparison with today of drugs and with today amounts of drugs and playing away sexually. The media playing away sexually. The media quite liked that allegations like this much more difficult to recover from. But actually one of the interesting is johnny depp. Interesting ones is johnny depp. Right. Who found guilty here right. Who was found guilty here of abusing his wife of domestic violence. Not guilty in the states. But once he was found states. But once he was found not guilty in the states, hes back on our screens doing ads. Everything seems to be okay. And the reason he took he took the legal action to begin with was because he was after the sun called him a wife beater, that he he he he he lost parts. I mean, he was losing an awful lot of money. So its wasnt it that he lost that libel action rather than being criminally convicted . Think thats right. I think thats right. I think thats right. He the libel action, but he lost the libel action, but he was convicted of a criminal offence, was what you said first . No sorry. He lost a libel action, but he was accused of being of being a wife beater. Let me very quickly before i go to break, a couple of viewers are asking questions as well, making statements. One my making statements. One of my viewers thinks its time viewers says he thinks its time to statute to have a statute of limitations. Is it . I disagree. Victims take many victims can often take many years come forward, often for years to come forward, often for very reasons, through fear very good reasons, through fear , through genuine belief. They will disbelieved or through will be disbelieved or through the concern of impact that the concern of the impact that will on others. And in will have on others. And in countries you see quite countries where you see quite strict statutes of limitation like italy, you often see people rejoice basically the day after its expired and they know theyve got away with what they then effectively admit that theyve done. I dont, especially for serious offences like this. I dont believe in it. Im all for saying in practise not go practise were not going to go back years prosecute back five years and prosecute shoplifting sweets, im not shoplifting sweets, but im not for of thing. I dont for this sort of thing. I dont think there should be a limitation of, well, you know what . Theres a lot of pointers coming a lot of questions, coming in, a lot of questions, a lot of opinions coming in. But believe it or not, you probably wont actually, believe it or not, you probably wont seen actually, believe it or not, you probably wont seen lot actually, believe it or not, you probably wont seen lot oftually, believe it or not, you probably wont seen lot of the. Y, believe it or not, you probably wont seen lot of the media weve seen a lot of the media today. There are other things going on this world. Going on in this world. Everybody not just the antics of russell allegations Russell Brand or allegations surrounding them. So if you dont going to move surrounding them. So if you doni going to move surrounding them. So if you doni want going to move surrounding them. So if you doni want to going to move surrounding them. So if you doni want to talkoing to move surrounding them. So if you doni want to talk tog to move surrounding them. So if you doni want to talk to you move surrounding them. So if you doni want to talk to you about on. I want to talk to you about liz remember her . Shes liz truss. Remember her . Shes been speaking out today, urging everyone basically to Pay Attention saying. Attention to what she is saying. She answers fix the she has the answers to fix the economy. Does she . You tell me. Gb news radio. Hi there. Hi there. Im Michelle Dewberry with you till 7 00. Scarlet mcguire and alex dean remain alongside me now. Liz truss , she has me now. Liz truss, she has staged an intervention, so its been called. Dont know why been called. Dont know why everyone calls everyone that shes just basically done a speech. But anyway, shes speaking out directly to the likes of rishi sunak. Shes calling to cut taxes, calling upon him to cut taxes, slash and raise the slash benefits and raise the state retirement age. I can hear some of you groaning about that from your surfers as i speak. From your surfers as i speak. Anyway, shes been doing this big Speech Institute for government, and it was quite a lengthy speech. I have to say. I agreed with some of the key points that she was making. And i thought , actually, you know i thought, actually, you know what i do think and i cant help it because i know people will shout at me and talk about lettuces and all the rest of it. But i do. When you actually look at the points shes at some of the points shes making, i think shes speaking a bit of sense. Well, look, if people dont like truss, people dont like liz truss, they that one they should remember that one should of separating should be capable of separating the message the messenger the message from the messenger and merits the and assessing on its merits the argument thinking, do argument without thinking, do i like person not . Like this person or not . Do think this person was or do i think this person was good the job they did or good in the last job they did or whatever . Theres also a basic point what are ex prime point what are what are ex Prime Ministers like ministers supposed to do . Like policemen, theyre getting younger younger. Younger and younger. Theyre going live for going to have lives to live for decades on current form to come after office. So after theyve left office. So they never say they supposed to just never say anything. This is anything. So i think this is completely reasonable to have this speech and to make the points shes making. I points that shes making. I would would say the would just i would say the situation happened last situation that happened last year after liz truss went into number 10 is something that should give anyone pause and think about reforms. But i mean, the one that really caught my eye was suggesting Corporation Tax should be back where it was at 19. Well, it was that wasnt regarded as controversial at all in this country for years now, some of our International Competitors did think that 19 was too low. But its still higher than the irish. Its not a completely outwith and controversial position to have taken, but im sure jeremy us more competitive internationally i jeremy hunt im sure unless my memory fails me which it does a lot these days. Im sure that when he was trying to get elected as the leader of the party, im sure that that was one of the things that he used to campaign on. That is correct. Reducing and he has been asked about and his reply asked about that and his reply make it what you will. His make of it what you will. His reply is, i havent changed my mind on destination. Mind on the destination. Ive changed how to get there. Right. Well ill tell you some the things that i agreed some of the things that i agreed with liz truss from her speech today. Spending. Says, today. State spending. She says, now for nearly 50 of now accounts for nearly 50 of gdp. That gdp. Shes calling that out. Shes out the fact shes calling out the fact theres a massive burden on regulation and shes saying our tax way more tax system is way more complicated than needs to be. Complicated than it needs to be. Alex, point a very valid shes talking about reducing corporation. Shes talking Corporation Tax. Shes talking about reforming what they call the ir35 regulations. What is to the ir35 regulations. What is to disagree with in that . Im just disagree with in that . Im just amazed that liz truss thinks that she can come and tell us how to run a country when she was given a chance and didnt. Right. Right. Was she given a fair crack of the whip . Well well, it wasnt. People like me who got of her. It like me who got rid of her. It was it was it was the financial markets. Mean, it was the tory markets. I mean, it was the tory party who said we cant i party who said we cant go on. I mean, you know, i remember being at Labour Party Conference and watching it watching the pound plunge. It was the markets that decided that she wasnt any good. The big thing about truss is she big thing about liz truss is she talks about growth , who is anti talks about growth, who is anti growth . I mean, thats what thats what it is. She talks as though she is the only she is the only person who knows how to do it. No, i actually dont think that state spending should go down. I mean, i certainly dont think that benefits should be is one of the be cut. And that is one of the problems that when she was in power. So she she had tax cuts for the rich and she wanted benefit cuts so that the poor and i mean, trying to live on benefits is pretty tough. They get very little. And actually no one should be living on benefits though unless they physically are not able to go to work, though. Well well, there are a lot of people who are trying to get jobs are physically unable jobs who are physically unable to work. To go to work. I mean, we dont have to physically go to in this physically go to work in this day age. You can work from home. I know. I know. But actually, they have to get a right . They have to get a job, right . They i mean, there is they have to. I mean, there is no question that people getting universal credit are asked week after week. What are they doing about getting a job . I mean, its not hanging on. Thought was fascinating i thought it was fascinating because, relevant because, of course, the relevant ministers were pilloried last month when they suggested that disabled people should be considered for working from home and the guns of those criticising them were rather spiked when somebody thought to ask the people concerned, would you like if you the you like if you had the opportunity to work and very opportunity to work and a very significant said significant number of them said yes, i would like its empowering to work. I would like no, cant down. Im not im no, i cant go down. Im not im not going to be neither shelf stacking nor pole vaulting. But if can a desk in my if i can work at a desk in my house and a suitable accommodation can made, i accommodation can be made, i would to it. Would like to do it. And i thought that was great. Actually, the charity said yes, of course people would like actually, the charity said ye workcourse people would like actually, the charity said ye workcoursehome, e would like actually, the charity said ye work coursehome, e w well, thats what i just said. Well, thats what i just sdill i mean, i think what i think i mean, i think what we want yes of course, we we want is. Yes of course, we want people being able to want more people being able to work. We want people who are stuck at home, not to not to just be sitting there, but to actually able its actually be able to work. Its really good them. And most really good for them. And most of them it. Actually, of them want it. But actually, you help them. Well you have to help them. Well thats why i instead of thats why i said instead of saying, know, if you dont saying, you know, if you dont do our way, were going to do it our way, were going to cut benefits. Cut our benefits. Well, id said about suitable accommodations being made, but lets try a different way lets try it a different way then. Enormous then. Weve had an enormous number since number of people since coronavirus in this coronavirus began in this country added to the unable to work long term sick, work bracket long term sick, going on to disabled and so forth. As a country. Even if someones expressed their view inelegantly, even if said something , said something you something, said something you dont like proposed dont like as a proposed solution, often its a debate weve to have. And it seems weve got to have. And it seems to me that many people in politics are just very unwilling to weve a category politics are just very unwilling to in weve a category politics are just very unwilling to in this ve a category politics are just very unwilling to in this country, category politics are just very unwilling to in this country, halfegory politics are just very unwilling to in this country, half a ry change in this country, half a million plus people going million plus more people going into division. Into that division. Fighting it. What anybody is fighting it. What im the charities for im saying is the charities for people people with ms people like people with ms people like people with ms people who actually cant get out to work, there is not a charity for long covid yet are saying yes , great, help us. Saying yes, great, help us. Thats all im saying. Im not saying that they shouldnt. Right. But the other the other problem is, is that when James Forsyth and the spectator looked at long term sick, they they they were extremely worried about what it really meant and how sick people were. And so , so how sick people were. And so, so know. I mean, particularly for the over 50s well, theres two types of being sick , isnt there . Theres the type where actually you just left alone. So thats it. Im on long term sick and off i am. And i think the category that they were talking about, the people that actually alex point you could be you could be actively re assessed and the rest of it theres and all the rest of it theres too many people in the camp of being told thats it, youre so ill, again. Ill, you can never work again. See later. Forget about you. See you later. Forget about you. Agreeing. Im agreeing. Im agreeing. Actually, what spending and actually, what spending would increase because would you increase then . Because you disagreed you said you disagreed with truss. Want to see truss. You dont want to see state spending reduced. Want no, i want i dont want no, i dont want to dont want to see it to see i dont want to see it cut because actually, no, you said didnt you say you wanted it increased you would it to be increased you would spend no, i said i spend more. No, i said what i said was i and i really dont want to see benefits cut because i people are having i think people are having a tough i remember tough time. I mean, i remember dunng tough time. I mean, i remember during when liz truss was was going was for going the going for was for going the leadership we about to leadership and we were about to have Energy Prices have we knew the Energy Prices were going to go through the roof. And she said, i dont believe handouts. I mean, believe in handouts. I mean, its sort language that its that sort of language that actually i think entrepreneurs its that sort of language that actlgreat, think entrepreneurs its that sort of language that actlgreat, thini entrepreneurs its that sort of language that actlgreat, thini thinkpreneurs its that sort of language that actlgreat, thini think ordinary are great, but i think ordinary people and that people arent and that that is the what we have in the problem. And what we have in this country is people all people are expecting state spending on things like nurseries, childcare and actually if you want growth , you actually if you want growth, you need to spend more on child care because women can go to work. She was advocating making it easier for people to get access to Quality Childcare once she and our provision of childcare across. Its not a Party Political point particularly its been true on both of true of parties on both sides of the has an outlier in the aisle has been an outlier in being in comparison with being poor in comparison with our international neighbours. And right, an and scarlett is right, its an empowering thing that helps women to get back into the workplace and sooner they workplace and sooner if they want and the they do want to and the sooner they do that, better their economic that, the better their economic output and a statistical output and on a statistical bafis output and on a statistical basis broadly, the better basis more broadly, the better the the country. Well, you guys are divided at home, i can tell you, graham says prime says shes a failed Prime Minister. I wonder if she got the nerve suggest what the nerve to suggest now what should done. He says if she should be done. He says if she had any dignity, shed stare gracefully background. Gracefully in the background. John, bang liz john, though, says bang on liz truss. Right on the money. Truss. Shes right on the money. He with her. He completely agrees with her. What make all . Get what do you make of it all . Get in and let me know. But in in touch and let me know. But in the meantime, lets have a little look at the weather. That warm feeling inside from boxt proud sponsors of boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good day to you. It is going to turn very wet and windy as we go through tonight and into tuesday with some heavy rain and strong winds arriving for us looking at the for many of us looking at the Bigger Picture and heres the front that brought heavy rain earlier but our earlier on monday. But our attention is turning to low pressure out in the atlantic, which to turn things which is going to turn things even unsettled the even more unsettled through the rest today. Then there are rest of today. Then there are some clear skies, particularly across eastern parts, but also plenty following in plenty of showers following in from some these from the west. Some of these heavy, them thundery and heavy, some of them thundery and were to see things were going to see things turning increasingly cloudy overnight wet and overnight with some wet and windy pushing from windy weather pushing in from the perhaps a chilly the west after perhaps a chilly start the night. Temperatures start to the night. Temperatures will pick up through the early Hours Tuesday morning. So hours of tuesday morning. So itll start tomorrow itll be a mild start tomorrow for us. But cloudy , for most of us. But a cloudy, wet windy one. You can see wet and windy one. You can see the going to be the rain is going to be widespread. For some, widespread. Heavy for some, particularly of particularly across parts of north west england, west and wales. Could see wales. Here we could really see totals building up over the next day so. A cloudy picture day or so. But a cloudy picture for most and windy one with for most and a windy one with coastal gales, perhaps some sunshine northern parts sunshine towards northern parts of , temperatures near of scotland, temperatures near normal time year. But normal for the time of year. But in the wind, the rain under the cloud, its going to feel pretty unpleasant. A wet and unpleasant. Also, a wet and unsettled as we head into unsettled day as we head into wednesday. Outbreaks wednesday. Further outbreaks of rain, why totals rain, which is why those totals likely to continue build up. Likely to continue to build up. You see the rain gradually you can see the rain gradually pushes its way eastwards as we go through the day with then showers following behind. Showers following in behind. These be heavy and these could still be heavy and perhaps times these could still be heavy and perhapsunsettled times these could still be heavy and perhaps unsettled through; these could still be heavy and perhaps unsettled through much staying unsettled through much of week, but of the rest of the week, but perhaps something drier for a spell of time to end friday. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Proud sponsors of weather on gb news. News rishi sunak is apparently a bigger liability to the country than liz truss ever was, says one of my viewers. Gordon says im not sure if liz truss has all the answers, but starmer and sunak certainly dont seem to have any. One of my viewers on have any. One of my viewers on twitter says, i was going to put you on in the background, michelle, whilst preparing my dinner, as ive seen dinner, but seeing as ive seen that alex is on dinner has been postponed. Very postponed. And thats very kind. Yes. Abuse that, that can i abuse that, that kindness to just one more point about the truss thing. Its very illustrative. Your illustrative. One of your viewers about the viewers comments about the difference between, viewers comments about the diffethe e between, viewers comments about the diffethe united between, viewers comments about the diffethe United States etween, viewers comments about the diffethe United States andeen, viewers comments about the diffethe United States and here say, the United States and here about i think about failure. And i think unambiguously agree that unambiguously we can agree that liz premiership failed, liz truss premiership failed, didnt last two months. I think most People Fairly will that most People Fairly will say that was success. But what was not a success. But what are you supposed after you supposed to do after failure . People think, failure . And some people think, as of your does, you as one of your viewers does, you can not come back to can basically not come back to pubuc can basically not come back to public life and contribute meaningfully again. Thats public life and contribute metmy gfully again. Thats public life and contribute metmy view. Again. Thats public life and contribute metmy view. Andin. Thats public life and contribute metmy view. And its thats public life and contribute metmy view. And its notthats public life and contribute metmy view. And its not itats not my view. And its not it wouldnt the view in the wouldnt be the view in the states if go bankrupt, states where if you go bankrupt, people think, well, you know, you it go and perhaps you gave it a go and perhaps youll it another go. And youll give it another go. And i rather like the fact that liz truss got the pluck to truss has got the pluck to try and something and contribute something very expensive, they disagree and contribute something very expe prime they disagree and contribute something very expe Prime Ministers, ey disagree they . They get these security details. Thats a different thats a different question. Very expensive. And yeah, very expensive. And they whether go away they do it whether they go away or well, hang on. I do have a well, hang on. I do have a question. I do have an issue about whether they should get the office the full panoply of an office and forth. Security thing and so forth. The security thing is on the advice of the is done on the advice of the security services, because when you become Prime Minister, youre briefed wed youre briefed on things wed rather didnt leak if you got kidnapped. Rather didnt leak if you got kidiyeah,d. Why should i . And yeah, but why should i . And you at home random, ordinary you at home as random, ordinary taxpayers funding taxpayers be funding the security former prime security for a former Prime Minister . Less than 5050 days whilst a whilst theyre going earn a fortune a speaking gig. Fortune on a speaking gig. Why. Because that explain why. Because that person will have been briefed on day security day one about National Security issues that shouldnt into issues that shouldnt fall into the people, the hands of the wrong people, and therefore, its not an issue of their longevity. Its an issue of the security of the country. W g security issues, well, these security issues, michelle, about michelle, is also talking about people an awful lot of people who earn an awful lot of money. People who earn an awful lot of mo im talking about a former im talking about a former prime boris johnson, Prime Minister boris johnson, who out and earns, you who goes out and earns, you know, tens, hundreds of thousands. Have thousands. And we still have to support about why should im talking about why should ihave im talking about why should i have to Fund Security i have to fund your security whilst you and make a whilst you go and make a fortune . Talk about National Security it security secrets these days. It feels like people leave feels like people just leave those things on a bus bus those things on a bus or a bus stop. Anyway, been told stop. Anyway, ive been told about times. I do have to go about 12 times. I do have to go to a break, so i shall respect the voice in my ear, go to a break and ask you to ponder while you think while im at it. Do you think you should radio. Hi there. Im Michelle Dewberry with you till seven alongside me. Scarlett mccgwire , keir and alex dean. I was asking you to ponder during the break whether or not you think 16 should allowed 16 year olds should be allowed to a general election to vote in a general election that could be the plan. It looks like if labour do indeed get in. One of my viewers on twitter , one of my viewers on twitter, joseph, he says 16 year olds voting, never mind voting , hire voting, never mind voting, hire them teenagers. Theyre no everything apparently. Lets everything apparently. Lets talk about this 60 year olds voting in a general election. Voting in a general election. Why is labour so keen on it . Actually , i mean, i just actually, i mean, ijust think they think it will extend democracy. The reason. Come on. No. Did you say that with a straight face . It was a conservative former mp who persuaded me that that 16 year olds should vote and what she said is it brings civics into school. Is that is that you do you get you get them in school doing doing elections in school doing doing elections in school talking about it and youll then set for life and the problem is young people not voting and its how to get young people voting. And she felt people voting. And she felt very, very strongly she i mean since when are young you think young people are incredibly left wing . Wing . I dont im looking at you with a glint in my eye because i think i know a lot of people say, oh, yeah, a lot of people on the left say, get all these 16 year olds involved because they think that actually the 16 year olds would turn out in favour of more leaning favour of more left leaning parties, particularly when it comes economy and stuff comes to the economy and stuff like think the like that. So hence, i think the theory would be that the left leaning aspects of politics would benefit. Where do would actually benefit. Where do you stand on it all . Well, of course i respect scarlett greatly, its fair. Scarlett greatly, but its fair. And admire poker and i really admire the poker face in maintaining that. Its not you think there not because you think there might electoral advantage. Might be electoral advantage. I think be some think there really might be some electoral and electoral advantage. And its not course, labour that not just, of course, labour that they might think that the snp north border thought north of the border have thought of look, whilst of that too. But look, whilst accepting theres an aspect of that too. But look, whilst ac� arbitrary theres an aspect of that too. But look, whilst ac� arbitrary ness|eres an aspect of that too. But look, whilst ac� arbitrary ness aboutan aspect of that too. But look, whilst ac� arbitrary ness about this;pect of that too. But look, whilst ac� arbitrary ness about this pert of arbitrary ness about this per se, wherever you put these lines, i think that the 18 year old yardstick is about right. After all, you cant sign legally binding content pacts or get a tattoo or buy a packet of cigarettes until youre 18. In this country. And it seems to me this country. And it seems to me to be strange that you should be able to vote before that, but couldnt make personal decisions like those ones. And you certainly can be the ward of the court in this country until youre 18. So you could be you could be a ward of the state, but youd still be able to decide Decision Makers decide who the Decision Makers are state. That are who run the state. That seems peculiar to me as seems rather peculiar to me as well. I seems rather peculiar to me as well. I mean, you need your parents to consent to get married until youre 18. The idea that you should be able to decide who governs a country, but you still cant decide to tie seems rather tie the knot seems rather peculiar to me as well. Dont think . It would be dont you think . It would be good . Mean, is what good . I mean, this is what persuaded me it would be good if you could bring into you could bring politics into schools people voting. Schools and get people voting. What , right . There is no what we want, right . There is no question it. We want question about it. We want more people right . So. So that people voting right . So. So that actually it is more democratic and we know its the over 65 seconds who vote and its the under 40 under 35 seconds who dont. And its to start to get them interested in politics to have them discussing politics and going and going to vote. But iconceded and going and going to vote. But i conceded at the beginning that wherever you draw the line is going to feel to some extent rather arbitrary. Of course, your argument extends to 12 year olds as much as it does to 16 year olds. So i dont know why. If you agree, if you think the most important thing is having people thing is having young people voting schools, voting and involved in schools, why it at the age when many why set it at the age when many people leave . Why not have it at ten . No, its got a good point. People what was people dont. What i was thinking of you have thinking of was, you have six forms, have six forms. Forms, you have six forms. Oh, only enlightened to oh, only the enlightened to stay on. So not who leave stay on. So not those who leave at actually very, very few at 16 actually very, very few people 16. People leave school at 16. Plenty people these days. Plenty of people these days. 16 and they can vote about one. They vote if what you they can vote if what you want to do is get into schools and indoctrinate or should i say educate, depending on what you believe the world of believe people into the world of politics. Why 16 then . Because i mean at 16, there politics. Why 16 then . Lotsiuse i mean at 16, there politics. Why 16 then . Lots ofe i mean at 16, there politics. Why 16 then . Lots of things an at 16, there politics. Why 16 then . Lots of things yout 16, there politics. Why 16 then . Lots of things you can there politics. Why 16 then . Lots of things you can do. Re are lots of things you can do. Your point is, its an arbitrary i agree. Arbitrary point. I agree. Is arbitrary. Like we just it is arbitrary. Like join army. You cant join the army. Its you cant serve the front line though serve on the front line though at 16. But you can join the army with your parents consent. You can join the army with your parents that can parents consent so that you can do want vote with your do you want to vote with your parents i think most 16 parents consent . I think most 16 year will vote like their year olds will vote like their parents, mean, parents, actually. I mean, i think this is complete myth think this is a complete myth about year olds. I think about 16 year olds. I think i think mean, looking at think people i mean, looking at mikey, you get mikey, people when you get radical is about when youre 25. But so not its not but its not so im not its not about that. Its about its about that. Its about its about actually, its helping people and i dont and i just people and i dont and ijust think sixth form is a great time. Help me understand politics. Help me understand. So lets help me understand. So lets say i accept your point. Its not about electoral advantage and bringing and its about bringing democracy schools. All the democracy into schools. All the arguments about arguments youve just said about 16 dont they 16 year olds, why dont they apply to 15 year olds . Because why is it 18 and not 17 . I mean, you okay, the thing about 16 is its the sixth form. Its a good place to have it right. And 1616 is plenty of people watching who didnt stay on past 16 and plenty of people watching whose children didnt stay on past 16. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they can vote. Were not saying vote. Im just saying they cant vote. Im just saying they cant vote. Im just saying that its really good to have that debate that that you know, you can do for politics a level. You can do politics and all sorts of things. Im all for civics. I just dont dont think that means you need to have the vote at 16. What do you guys think at home . Do you have you got a 16 year old . Could you imagine them . Voting devices never mind lowering he thinks lowering it. He says he thinks he raise it probably to he would raise it probably to about the age of 30. Or he says failing that, cor blimey , failing that, 5050. Cor blimey, josh says, i do. I think it needs to be increased. He says it should be increased to 25. Craig says it should be increased to 21. Maggie said i can remember what i was like when i was 16, she says. I was absolutely barmy. So she says, absolutely barmy. So she says, looking back at how she would have voted, then she would perhaps have changed her mind and then some by now, barbara said, if someone is getting child allowance family allowance for child, then the for a child, then the definition, the clue is in the wild child. And that child should not essentially be able to. Just have a quick look to vote. Just have a quick look as well. Whats going on the rest world when it comes rest of the world when it comes to voting ages and who is doing what pop some of those up on what and pop some of those up on your screen. I think. Um, can i . Your screen. I think. Um, can i . Yes, there you go. Look at that. Yes, there you go. Look at that. 20. So some of you youre saying youre 20, you want it 21 or was it it was saying to me 21 youre in bed with places like singapore and malaysia. 25 that singapore and malaysia. 25 that bnngs singapore and malaysia. 25 that brings you in line with the united arab emirates. Lets have a look. Where else . Whats going on . Scotland and england , by the on . Scotland and england, by the way, you can vote 16 in local elections. Not way, you can vote 16 in local elections. Not england. Yeah, scotland and wales. Sudan. Youve got to be 17. South korea, everyone. Youve got to be 19. So there you go. If youre sitting there thinking about some of those ages, that is how you fit into the international stage. Let me know. Do you have a 16 year old . Do you think that they should get vote . Alan says its far get the vote . Alan says its far better that 16 year olds are given the vote as opposed to expats havent lived the expats that havent lived in the uk years, still get uk for years, but they still get a vote. I dont know. Thats a vote. I dont know. Thats a view. You tell me what you think to not go anywhere to it. Do not go anywhere though. A quick break. Ive got lots before hi there. Im Michelle Dewberry with you till 7 00 tonight. Scarlett mccgwire the former labour adviser alongside me, as is alex dean, the pr consultant. But youve also got a podcast as well. Yep. The Hidden History up our season two drops today. There you go. His new podcast dropped today. Do me a favour. Off lid off my show and go and listen watch you can listen and watch it. You can wait until after 7 00, if you dont mind. Anyway, i do like entrepreneurial ism, so i do like give out when like to give a shout out when people cracking on with people are cracking on with endeavours. I it. Anyway, endeavours. I like it. Anyway, ill who is cracking on ill tell you who is cracking on spending money that is the spending the money that is the nhs. Yes. Never mind the fact theyve massive waiting theyve got massive waiting lists, absolute theyve got massive waiting lists, on absolute theyve got massive waiting lists, on medicalibsolute theyve got massive waiting lists, on medical negligence fortune on medical negligence claims stuff what claims and stuff like that. What is i hear you is their priority . I hear you asking, in their asking, sitting there in their management guess what . Management meetings. Guess what . Theyve decided that they want management meetings. Guess what . Th create iecided that they want management meetings. Guess what . Th create hundreds at they want management meetings. Guess what . Th create hundreds ofthey want management meetings. Guess what . Thcreate hundreds of brand ant management meetings. Guess what . Thcreate hundreds of brand new to create hundreds of brand new diversity and inclusion roles. Theyre going to create three new departments, basically collectively, that will employ 244 people, all one of the things that raises my eyebrows, though, that is at least half of those people will earn at least £50,000. You know, there has been conversations about cracking down on what some people in the government have called like wokery. Basically what do you think too, alex . I wouldnt. So scarlett was saying was struggling to identify bits state identify bits of state expenditure. She might avoid, which philosophical which is a philosophical position i understand in respect but differ dont but differ from and i dont think that the government should have any diversity or inclusion officers. Dont officers. I certainly dont think that it should be anyones full time role working for the state at all. If a private Company Wants to entertain such fripperies to its fripperies and explain to its shareholders returns shareholders why their returns might be lower because theyve decided to spend on that, thats one but taking taxpayers one thing. But taking taxpayers money and spending it on full time or part time time roles or even part time parts jobs is sammy parts of peoples jobs is sammy seems to be wrong. And i watch Patrick Christys show with interest. When he was talking about somebody in these roles earning twice what a nurse earns. And that seems to me to be wholly wrong. Ill give you some examples of this head of diversity, eqtu of this head of diversity, equity and inclusion in ashton under lyne you can get up to 68. 5 grand for that. In dartford 68. 5 grand for that. In dartford theyre paying 70. 5 grand for theyre paying 70. 5 grand for the same kind of role, 53 grand here, 50 grand there, 58 grand there. I did a bit of digging today. I had a bit of time on my hands according to forbes. Right. Get this. Hands according to forbes. Right. Get this. The adversity , right. Get this. The adversity, you know, not adversity, although some people would say that Equality Diversity that the equality and diversity we you know much that we do you know how much that industry is worth . We do you know how much that ind no. is worth . No. No. Well, luckily for everyone i do. It is 7. 5 billion. It was estimated , at 2020. And that estimated, at 2020. And that apparently will double by 2026. So this is a you know, a very lucrative racket for those involved. Okay so some years ago , i wrote a so some years ago, i wrote a book called best companies for women. And it was it was private and public sector. And it was how how the companies were trying to keep mostly keep women to come back and the important the work they had to do to get women to come back after having children and to make sure that the promotion was properly. Now this this was this was back in the 80s and it was women rather than anybody else. And when i spoke to the company, the people at the top of the company, they said whats really important is were losing half the workforce. What doing is were. And what were doing is were losing an awful lot of people who should be, you know , that we who should be, you know, that we want back. And we havent got enough enough range. And so enough enough range. And so actually , the reason that actually, the reason that private companies are very keen on diversity is because it actually makes makes them perform better. And it does take a lot of money and a lot of creativity to work out how. First of all, to get women back. But on the other side of promoting, i mean , one does look promoting, i mean, one does look at the nhs and you see all these nurses , many, most of whom are nurses, many, most of whom are women , many of whom are ethnic women, many of whom are ethnic minorities. And the higher you minorities. And the higher you 90, minorities. And the higher you go, the whiter and more male. It gets. And you actually think are gets. And you actually think are they doing the right thing . And it matters because because because actually we need we need to have we need to look at people in the round and thats the way its done. And and the reason that they do it is not because its an industry that makes makes lots and lots of money but actually because it it really really benefits people. I want to just share with you some of these departments what theyre going to be called. So youve got equality, diversity and inclusion in people and culture and people and communities. As i said, 244 communities. As i said, 244 roles. They had a target to create nhs and extended create the nhs and extended boards, 50, 50 men and women. I boards, 50, 50 men and women. I sit there and i think to myself, because you call it like 5050 gender balance, there , going to gender balance, there, going to tie themselves in knots because theyre simultaneously sitting there saying, these there saying, weve got these gender whilst gender based targets whilst equally simultanea and not even being able to define what a woman is, and then simultaneously that simultaneously saying that actually its a woman is pretty much that that they much anyone that says that they are days. So how are one these days. So how will that when it that all work then, when it comes gender balance . And why comes to gender balance . And why do we need 5050 on the boards . Because were lacking women. I thats what i mean, thats what thats what i mean, thats what thats what i in the city, they know i mean. In the city, they know that not having not having male dominated boards and particularly white male dominated boards and particularly privately educated white male dominated boards, is actually not good for hunting out a board member purely because theyve got a vagina. There is a little bit odd thatis there is a little bit odd that is that is completely wrong. Is that whats wrong . Get really, really good women. There are lots and lots of really good women that have been overlooked for years and years and years because theyre women. And its a its what its saying is open your and lets actually get your eyes and lets actually get some really good women onto these that can these boards so that we can change the we operate. Change the way we operate. You know what, on the flip side theres a lot of side to this, theres a lot of people that in minority people that are in minority groups within nhs. They will people that are in minority groout within nhs. They will people that are in minority groout andiin nhs. They will people that are in minority groout and say nhs. They will people that are in minority groout and say thaths. They will people that are in minority groout and say that they hey will people that are in minority groout and say that they haveill sit out and say that they have been bullied and all the rest of it. So therell be lots of people. I suspect, that will indeed support that diversity push that all push look, look, that is all weve for. Scarlett, weve got. Time for. Scarlett, thank as thank you very much. Alex as well. Thank dont forget, well. Thank you. Dont forget, everyone, that my show everyone, now that my show is finished youre busy finished and while youre busy listening to nigel, also listening to nigel, you can also busy getting busy your hands getting his podcast as well. And a little bit of history. But for now, that have got time that is all we have got time for. Do not go anywhere. As i mention. Nigel farage up next. Have you tomorrow. The temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good day to you. It is going to turn very wet and windy as we go through tonight and into tuesday with some heavy rain and strong winds arriving for many of us looking at the Bigger Picture. And heres the front brought rain front that brought heavy rain earlier monday. But our earlier on monday. But our attention turning to low attention is turning to low pressure the atlantic, pressure out in the atlantic, which is going to turn things even more unsettled and through the today. There the rest of today. Then there are some clear skies, particularly across eastern parts, also plenty parts, but also plenty of showers following in from the west. These heavy, some west. Some of these heavy, some of thundery. Were of them thundery. And were going to see turning going to see things turning increasingly going to see things turning incre somey and weather with some wet and windy weather pushing in from the west after perhaps a chilly start to the night. Temperatures pick up night. Temperatures will pick up through early hours through the early hours of tuesday so be tuesday morning. So it will be a mild tomorrow for most mild start tomorrow for most of us, but a cloudy, wet and windy one. Can the rain is one. You can see the rain is going to be widespread, heavy for some, particularly across parts england. West parts of northwest england. West and we could really and wales. Here, we could really see building over the see totals building up over the next so. But cloudy next day or so. But a cloudy picture most and a windy one picture for most and a windy one with coastal gales, perhaps some sunshine northern parts sunshine towards northern parts of temperatures are of scotland. Temperatures are near for the time of near normal for the time of yean near normal for the time of year, but wind, the rain year, but in the wind, the rain under the cloud, its going to feel unpleasant. Also feel pretty unpleasant. Also a wet unsettled day we head wet and unsettled day as we head into wednesday. Further outbreaks which is why outbreaks of rain, which is why those likely to continue those totals likely to continue to build up. You can see the rain gradually pushes its way eastwards we go through the eastwards as we go through the day showers following day with then showers following in these could be in behind. These could still be heavy thundery at heavy and perhaps thundery at times through times staying unsettled through much week, much of the rest of the week, but something drier for but perhaps something drier for a of time to end friday. A spell of time to end friday. The temperatures rising gb news. Good evening. As 10,000. Yes 10,000 young men arrive in the Little Island of lampedusa over the weekend. And im going to ask the question, will this destroy the European Union in london this morning, liz truss gives a defiant speech defending everything she stood for in her brief time as Prime Minister. Will ask the question why on earth are the nhs spending millions involving more and more and more inclusion and diversity officers . Surely the 7. 7 million waiting list is more important . Im also i will give my First Response on the Russell Brand scandal. But before all of that, lets get the news with polly middlehurst. Middlehurst. Nigel, thank you. Good evening. Will. The top story tonight is that Russell Brands tour promoters have announced his three remaining charity fundraiser. Shows have been fundraiser. Shows have been postponed. And thats after postponed. And thats after earlier on this afternoon , the earlier on this afternoon, the metropolitan Police Confirmed that it had received a report of an alleged Sexual Assault involving the comedian, saying that incident happened 20 years ago. Four women have so far accused the 48 year old of rape or Sexual Assault during the height of his popularity between 2006 and 2013. The bbc