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With more. Yes, the Prime Minister walked back into downing street dunng walked back into downing street during the night and straight into a huge row about the influence of china. Ill bring you the latest and well have your full weather picture with rachel ayres after a very warm to hot weekend. To hot weekend. What can we expect from the weather as we go into the new week . Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. Forecast with all the details. And with us throughout the morning with all the latest from the world of sport, paul coyte. The world of sport, paul coyte. Yeah. Morning. 24 grand slams now for Novak Djokovic. So hes won the us open. Wales managed won the us open. Wales managed to get past fiji in the world cup last night. And also, guess what . Luis rubiales finally has quit. Hes the president of the spanish football federation. Didnt take long, did it . No it did not. It did not. Paul with us throughout the program this morning. And as always, we want to hear from you throughout the program. Get in touch. The usual way. Vaiews gbnews. Com or you can us at. Can tweet us at. Gb news. Today is september the 11th, 22 years since the world changed forever. 22 years since the world changed forever. Nearly 22 years since the world changed forever. Nearly 3000 people forever. Nearly 3000 People Killed in the space of 90 minutes. Well, the Senior Security experts have told gb news that large terror groups like al qaeda and isis could re emerge as significant threats to the uk. Authorities are currently tracking around 800 live terror investigation as well. Our Homeland Security editor mark white will bring you this exclusive live investigation. Exclusive live investigation. It was a brutal and shocking attack heralding a new era of International Terrorism where groups like al qaeda and then isis chose often soft targets in western cities, crowded places to cause maximum carnage. But in the 22 years since nine over 11, those big organised terror groups have been severely degraded by concerted action from Coalition Armed forces and Security Services. Intelligence Security Services. Intelligence analysts over there at mi5 are constantly scanning the horizon for new threats. They are out there. Al qaeda isis and associated groups are greatly diminished these days , but they diminished these days, but they could easily re emerge age. The could easily re emerge age. The terror groups are now scattered around multiple countries in the middle east, africa and asia and continue to launch more localised attacks. Yes, but localised attacks. Yes, but extremism experts warn they could become a potent threat to the west again as governments focus more on state threats from russia , china and iran. Russia, china and iran. I think the big fear has to be that if that pressure is lifted off, things might regress. And if we look at the underlying problems that sort of to led the emergence of a group like al qaeda that led to the emergence of group isis emergence of a group like isis that the of the sort that led to the rise of the sort of extreme right wing as a terrorist problem, you know, around the world, really , none around the world, really, none of those problems have really been a been resolved, you know, and a lot still bubbling lot of them are still bubbling below surface. Below the surface. For now, the predominant but for now, the predominant threat lone individuals. Threat is from lone individuals. Radish the radish catalysed by the propaganda arms of both islamist and right wing extremist groups. Yes, but with increasing ungoverned spaces in a number of countries, there is real concern that those more organised groups could once again flourish. Could once again flourish. And thats what theyre really concerned about in areas of afghanistan. Say that dont have much rule of law over them. Pockets of syria , bits of north pockets of syria, bits of north africa where they might reinstate themselves and make no mistake, that jihadi philosophy , that jihadi theories , the aim , that jihadi theories, the aim to create create a jihadi state is still there amongst certain individuals. Individuals. Als, uk authorities have told gb news they are currently pursuing around 800 live terror investigations. The majority relate to lone individuals but also to more organised plots and threats from state actors. No threats from state actors. No get out of here. More than two decades after nine divided by 11, the threat is far more ii, the threat is far more diverse than its ever been. Mark white gb news. Now lets speak to someone who was there on that day and thankfully survived. His name is suju john and he worked on the bist suju john and he worked on the 81st floor of tower one. And the thing suju is your wife, mary , thing suju is your wife, mary, was in tower two, the 71st floor, and you were at work when all of this happened. Your wife all of this happened. Your wife hadnt all of this happened. Your wife hadnt got to the office yet, as i understand. Bring us back to that day and around the time of a 8 45. And what happened . A 8 45. And what happened . Well, a happy good morning to all of you. Its hard to believe that its 22 years for those of us who went through that tragedy. Live out that day tragedy. We live out that day almost day our minds. Almost every day in our minds. And so, firstly, its hard to believe that years. Believe that its 22 years. Secondly you talked about almost 3000 people dying, but the fact of the matter is, post 9 11, whether its the war on terror, thousands more of american and nato troops have died in iraq and afghanistan. And when i look at the whole, you know , death at the whole, you know, death toll of 9 11, i kind of also think of those brave men and women who died fighting this evil. And then in the United States , post 9 11, we have had states, post 9 11, we have had at least 3 to 4000 more people die who are either firefight ers or policemen or survivors who inhaled the toxic stuff. So the death toll and the suffering continues. There are many more people who are very ill because of what they inhaled that day. So my thoughts are about those people today who lost loved ones who didnt go to war but never got to go back home. That day. How on earth did you make it 7 how on earth did you make it . From the 81st floor to ground level. So we started fighting our way to the fire down the stairwell and we came down 81 floors and it took more than an hour and 20 minutes. It felt like eternity. And for me, the thoughts my thoughts were about my wife was on the other tower. In she was other tower. In fact, she was four months pregnant at that time our oldest, whos now time with our oldest, whos now 21 age. So lives 21 years of age. So three lives were that day. Were spared that day. What your life since . What about your life since . And im sure you cant go through Something Like that without thinking about it. A lot. Do you feel blessed . Do you feel lucky . Do you feel cursed . What what is your take on having been a survivor . Been a survivor . You know, my life has changed in ways that i never quite would have imagined before 9 11. Firstly, my story was covered by media all over the world, and i kind of launched into , you know, kind of launched into, you know, more of a as a motivational speaken more of a as a motivational speaker, but primarily talking about. My faith became about my faith. My faith became about my faith. My faith became a important part of who i a very important part of who i am. When about faith, my am. When i talk about faith, my faith jesus christ and the faith in jesus christ and the story became a tool for me to share my faith. But i also started a non profit is started a non profit which is called you can free us, which started a non profit which is called modern| free us, which started a non profit which is called modern slavery;, which started a non profit which is called modern slavery around the fights modern slavery around the world. Just the way i was rescued that day, we get an opportunity rescue and opportunity to rescue women and children trapped in opportunity to rescue women and childrertrafficking. apped in opportunity to rescue women and childrertrafficking. Anded in opportunity to rescue women and childrertrafficking. And since the human trafficking. And since the war started in ukraine, weve been able to be involved in ukraine. Ive been in in and out of ukraine since war of ukraine since the war started, and weve been running relief work. In my relief work. So in a way, my heart is drawn to hotspots around the world. Wherever there is to make sure is evil, i want to make sure that there some good because that there is some good because good will always triumph. Evil if people like you and i will step will not allow the step up and will not allow the evil our times to rule the day. Well, suju, you then started a Global Human Rights organisation following all that youd been through. When you youd been through. When you look back and reflect and do you have are you one of these people who is a conspiracy theorist as to who attacked the towers or how they were allowed to be attacked too . Great question. Both of them great question. Both of them are. In a way, i would like to separate it. First of all, i have no doubt that that it was a terrorist attack, you know, and so i dont believe the Conspiracy Theory that says it was not a terrorist attack. I absolutely believe that. But i also understand that we now live in time where its very in a time where its very difficult our difficult to trust our government, especially post government, especially in a post covid world. And its really alarming now that we see whether its in the uk or in the United States, theres the less interest to fight radical interest to fight this radical islam powers. And they just need to get it right once. And we just need to get it wrong once. Just need to get it wrong once. And so this theres a theres a great danger of the western thought, the western philosophies that could be under attack , whether its a lone attack, whether its a lone attacker somewhere or if its a concerted effort. And like i said, they just need to get it right once and we need to get it wrong once. Well, 22 year ago it was and it is like yesterday for so many of us. And lovely to see you. Im and lovely to see you. Im sure youre just this memory today. Just will stay with you forever. Thank you very much indeed for talking to us this morning here in gb news. Thank you so much, sir. God bless you all. Thank you. Now in other news this morning, Daniel Khalife has been charged with escaping custody after four days on the run from authorities. On the run from authorities. Says 21 year old escaped terror suspect had strapped himself underneath a lorry to escape from wandsworth prison. That was last wednesday. Hes going to appear at westminster magistrates today. At all comes magistrates today. At all comes as an inmate is stabbed at wandsworth yesterday. Lets go wandsworth yesterday. Lets go to norman brennan, whos a retired metropolitan Police Officer. Officer. Good morning to you, norman. Look, this has been an embarrassing few days for the government and yes, he was found in a relatively quick time. But of course , this shines a light of course, this shines a light on the fitness really , doesnt on the fitness really, doesnt it, of our prisons . It, of our prisons . Well, certainly it does. And im here representing the protectors, which is a lead independent voice on british policing. And also i look after policing. And also i look after victims of crime, particularly those affected by homicide, gun and knife crime. But youre and knife crime. But youre absolutely right. I mean, the attacks within prisons we rarely hear about. Weve heard about hear about. Weve heard about this one because, of course , at this one because, of course, at wandsworth prisons in the headunes. Wandsworth prisons in the headlines. But theres some headlines. But theres some 21,000 armed assaults in prisons every year. 21,000 armed assaults in prisons every year. Many of them are very serious assaults. I understand that 322 were stabbings, which are a bladed instrument or implement that theyve designed and made themselves because of course knives are pretty difficult to get hold of. And as worrying is , theres 7500 assaults on prison officers, 699 were very serious assaults. But that prison officers, 699 were very serious assaults. But that is how dangerous our prisons are. And its prison officers, just Like Police Officers trying to keep the streets of britain safe. That have become the aunt sallys of the Prison Service. Many of them are assaulted. And many of them are assaulted. And just like policing now, are forced to leave the job because of these assaults. And dont forget who we got in prisons. Theyre very dangerous people. Theyre very dangerous people. Theyre bad people. Thats why theyre bad people. Thats why theyve ended up there in the first place. So theyre more likely to attack other prisoners and prison than many and prison officers than many other people on the streets. Attack the police. Attack the police. I suppose a lot of people will be thinking, you know, whats the solution to all of this . How do we fix it . Lots of people making the comment that you locking the door after you know, locking the door after the has bolted the horse has bolted doesnt really it. Moving these 40 really solve it. Moving these 40 prisoners out of hmp wandsworth, does that address the issue or does that address the issue or does create issues in other does it create issues in other prisons that are already overcrowded. Overcrowded. Well, i think norman may have had difficulty picking that up. Are you still there , norman . You are you still there, norman . You obviously he is not. Would you just do want to say to you as well, i mean, whether its wandsworth prison situation and the theory is that there are just not enough trained prison officers there to look after. Officers there to look after. Apparently the prisoners are more experienced than the prison officers with what goes on inside jail and whatever. Give us your view on that. Also 22nd anniversary of 9 11, where were you . Do you remember it . You . Do you remember it . I remember distinctly where it was and honestly think when the aeroplane crashes were happening, the towers were blowing up, that this was some sort of outside russian , sort of outside russian, chinese, whatever, strike, terrorist strike, and that this was basically going to be the end of the world. And its hard, you know, when you look back on where weve come then, theres been so come since then, theres been so many many of these many crises, so many of these incidents, weve become incidents, weve almost become used it. But this was the used to it. But this was the first it was so shocking. First and it was so shocking. I was south africa at time was in south africa at the time and i remember thinking, are we going be able to get home . Going to be able to get home . I was worried about my boyfriend whos uk. I thought whos back in the uk. I thought that he was going be that he was going to be conscripted or something. Honestly, war honestly, i thought world war iii was going to break out. But where were when where were you when 9 11 happened . Feel like happened . Also, do you feel like were place . Were in a safer place . Family mean, i was in my family i mean, i was in london. My family were in belfast. And i remember thinking that be safer be in that it would be safer to be in Belfast Darlington belfast or darlington or aberdeen or whatever than it would be to be in london. And you thought were going to you thought these were going to be strikes cities be major strikes on big cities around world. Scary, scary around the world. Scary, scary times. Time is now. 6 40. Times. The time is now. 6 40. Heres a reminder of the top stories. Well, as we were just discussing, 22 years on from the attack that changed the world, were looking back on september the 11th here at gb news. And were learning that the Terror Threat in the uk is still as real as ever , with 800 live real as ever, with 800 live terror investigations ongoing, an inmate has been stabbed at wandsworth prison just days after terrorist suspect Daniel Khalife escaped. Khalife escaped. The question were asking is our prison system fit for purpose . Purpose . And as the Prime Minister returns from the g20 summit in india, more details come out about the westminster staffers alleged to be spying for china. Alleged to be spying for china. Morning. The big story this morning, front page of the star is theyre calling it the Great British bunk off. Right . So the weather is going to be good today, but millions of workers are ditching the office today. Are you one of them . Fess up. Let us know. Are you calling in sick today so that you can toast in for the sun one last time before winter arrives . Can i ask a question . Yeah. Can i ask a question . Yeah. Does anybody work in this country . You know, if they dont country . You know, if they dont want a Bank Holidays time off for this. That whatever. Working from home, whatever an excuse at all. Then they said the weekend was going to be good. It was hot. Very, very hot. I didnt see any sunshine. Well, sunny on saturday, very overcast on sunday. Okay. But we got it while it lasts got to enjoy it while it lasts because you know what . Itll be gone you know heres gone before you know it. Heres rachel ayers that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayres and welcome to your latest news. Weather forecast brought to you by the met office. So it was a hot weekend, but what does it look like as we go into the new week . Well there is plenty of brightness across much of england and wales to start this morning with any mist, fog and low cloud lifting and we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing increasing cloud and outbreaks of sinking southeastwards of rain sinking southeastwards throughout this morning. We might also see the odd heavier shower and thunderstorm developing as we go into this afternoon. Still feeling pleasant in any sunny spells, but those temperatures a fair bit down we saw at the bit down on what we saw at the weekend with highs of 27 in the south east now, as we go into this evening, this cloud and rain will continue to make its way south eastwards , becoming way south eastwards, becoming heavy places, also slow heavy in places, but also slow moving as it goes into england and wales, clearing skies there across scotland, Northern Ireland and later on across Northern England. So a chilly night to come here. Those still humid and remaining warm further south south. So as we go into the start of tuesday, a fairly foggy, humid and murky start to the day for much of england and wales with outbreaks of rain spreading southeast throughout the day, plenty of sunshine, though, for scotland. Northern ireland and Northern England , ireland and Northern England, but starting to feel a fair bit cooler here with those winds coming from northerly coming from a northerly direction still just clinging on to some of that warmth there across the south east with highs still the to still getting into the low to mid 20s. That warm feeling mid 20s. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. And stay with us. We are joined in the studio by a former kgb spy. Yeah, theyre going to be giving us an insight into how spies operate and how vulnerable we are to external threats. More vulnerable than ever by all accounts. Youre watching breakfast here on gb news, britains news channel a very warm welcome back, rishi sunak raised concerns over chinas apparent interference in british democracy. Democracy. He with his opposite number at the g20 after the arrest of the parliamentary researcher who was arrested on suspicion of spying for beijing. He leaves india armed with hopes. Now the Prime Minister of a stronger global alliance. Global alliance. Well, despite fears that the allegations might undermine the Prime Ministers bid for more dialogue with china, their Prime Minister thinks that the two sides should properly handle their differences as well. Joining us in the studio is Catherine Forster. Gb news is Political Correspondent. Good morning to you, catherine. This is not what the Prime Minister wanted to talking about at wanted to be talking about at the surely the g20. Surely no, its really not. He had an awful week last week at home with a concrete with a escaped prisoner. He with a concrete with a escaped prisoner. He went the g20 prisoner. He went to the g20 hoping to smooth the waters. I hoping to smooth the waters. I think largely, yes. It was successful, but this absolutely the last thing he needed. The revelations yesterday that a parliamentary researcher there had been arrested back in march, suspected of spying on behalf of the chinese state. And of course, the conservative party. Theres lots of disagreement on how to handle china during the leadership campaign. Rishi sunak said china was a threat and then recently he softened his language , said it was an epoch language, said it was an epoch defining challenge. Now, he said , hes made it very clear to the chinese Prime Minister, of course, president xi was not there, that this is Unacceptable Behaviour for and but he can say that all he likes, you know, are they really going to listen . We know that china do not operate in the same way as western democratic nations. So hes come back overnight and this big row at security in parliament and particularly the influence that china has and our relationship with them. Its only a couple of weeks that the foreign secretary, James Cleverly visited. That was the first sort of visit like that for five years. He came in for a lot of criticism. Well, the Prime Minister, i suppose, is taking what he would see as a pragmatic approach. Theyve got the potential to be big Economic Partners and he wants nurture that wants to nurture that relationship a relationship if he can, in a safe way. But were hearing that these arrests were back in march. Why have only come march. Why have they only come to now . And lot of tory to light now . And a lot of tory mps very concerned that mps will be very concerned that they the dark about they were kept in the dark about this, especially given all the concerns about trying to concerns about china trying to undermine of liberal undermine kind of liberal western rules based order. Its a long time, isnt it . From march until now , and from march until now, and theres many conservative mps who are already extremely concerned about the influence of china and rishi sunak and the governments attitude towards them. This is only going to strengthen on that. And so , you strengthen on that. And so, you know, people like Iain Duncan Smith have been saying for a long time, we need to be much, much tougher. People like alicia cairns, the chair of the Foreign Affairs select committee, now shes one of the mps that this researcher had allegedly worked in the office of, the other one being tom tugendhat, the security minister. Though worth saying this parliamentary researcher was not working for him when he became security minister. Both of them say that they never actually met this chap , but real questions about chap, but real questions about parliamentary security, the suggestion is not that this person was sort of stealing secrets, but rather trying to influence mps get get influence by being there in the middle. So its a very difficult balancing act, isnt it . Its a very difficult balancing act, isnt it . Rishi sunak was trying to find the sort of goldilocks spot with china. Obviously weve got huge links with them. Theyve invested vast amounts of money here and around the world. We do a lot of business with them. But the way that they operate leaves a lot to be desired. What price . Catherine forster if youre analysis. Thank you. If youre analysis. Thank you. Ill tell you what you just you couldnt spot spies. I could , actually. He looks like a spy. You look. You just sort of unassuming. You know why . Because im shifty. Thats what it is. Its because im shifty. People just wouldnt suspect that. No, they wouldnt have clue. Why are you here anyway . I dont have a clue. You know what . Ill either talk about spies or ill talk about sport. But then again, weve a little so weve done a little spy, so maybe should talk a little maybe we should talk a little bit sport. Novak djokovic. Bit about sport. Novak djokovic. Novak djokovic. A record. Its unbelievable. 24th grand slam. Open. Slam. Its his fourth us open. Theres stopping this guy. Theres no stopping this guy. And as weve and as much as weve often discussed thinking, oh, discussed him and thinking, oh, we federer because he we do love federer because he was , theres no was nicer, theres no questioning djokovic, was nicer, theres no qthink,� |ing djokovic, was nicer, theres no qthink, isig djokovic, was nicer, theres no qthink, is the djokovic, was nicer, theres no qthink, is the greatest djokovic, was nicer, theres no qthink, is the greatest tennis ic, i think, is the greatest tennis player that this ever lived. You think so . I really do think so, because you look at margaret because if you look at margaret court, which court, who had the record, which is 24 australian tennis player, were looking in 60s were looking back in the 60s and early the competition and early 70s, the competition wasnt there that you cant really compare the game to how it today. Mean its it is today. So i mean its unbelievable. Beat daniil unbelievable. He beat daniil medvedev. The second medvedev last night. The second i mean, it was straight sets. I mean, it was in straight sets. It like it was easy, but it sounds like it was easy, but it wasnt. It was much harder than it actually seems on paper to the set, 104 minutes, to the second set, 104 minutes, the actual second set went longer than all of their first round games. So anyway , he wins round games. So anyway, he wins again. Third out for no. So hi , how close is he to so hi, how close is he to retirement and hanging up his racket . I think he go on forever. I think he go on forever. I think he go on forever. I do isnt he . I was thinking hes kind of old, but not you know, hes still got something in the tank. How old was federer when he retired . I think the same age or around the same age. And also weve andy murray, of weve got andy murray, of course, the same course, around the same age. Hes going to win hes hes not going to win a grand slam, know but as grand slam, we know that. But as far djokovic is concerned, far as djokovic is concerned, you know, theres plenty of plenty that tank. I mean, plenty of in that tank. I mean, hes to forever. Hes going to go on forever. My point was going to be, when youre used winning, when youre used to winning, being like that , how being a machine like that, how on earth do you do without that fix, without that drug . Exactly yeah. But thats andy murray all again. Thats what you all over again. Thats what you used to. Thats what youve played since were small played since you were a small boy. You win. You win. You win. What afterwards . But at what happens afterwards . But at the moment, still the best the moment, hes still the best there so theres reason there is, so theres no reason he should right at the he should retire right at the spanish mfa. So friend retiring. So our friend retiring. So our friend retiring. Rubio ulez. Yeah. Rubio ulez. Yeah. Rubio ulez. Decided for whatever hes now decided for whatever reason to down. He hasnt reason to step down. He hasnt stepped down yet. He said he will step he will. I dont know why. Its like when people go, were going to get engaged in two years time. Its youre either engaged its like youre either engaged or so youre either or youre not. So youre either stepping not. So stepping down or youre not. So as as hes concerned, he as far as hes concerned, he says he is going to step down. Its probably the fact that its now criminal case. Hes now like a criminal case. Hes now like a criminal case. Hes now moving around no now moving around this no spanish play for spanish players will play for him. Have stepped away from him. Fifa have stepped away from him. Fifa have stepped away from him. To do him. Nobody wants anything to do with still, for some with him. But still, for some reason, think his reason, i think its his arrogance kept in the arrogance thats kept him in the job. Apologised on the second job. He apologised on the second day. After the hermoso day. This is after the hermoso kiss, of course, after spain won the world where he kissed the world cup where he kissed her full on the then the her full on the lips. Then the next i apologise to next day he said, i apologise to anybody if hed anybody who was offended if hed have gone straight from the start look , it was in start and said, look, it was in the heat of the moment. Im so sorry. I know it was wrong. Maybe would survived. Maybe he would have survived. Maybe, but certainly maybe, maybe not. But certainly his has managed to his arrogance has managed to move him this rugby world cup. Worth a mention in wales last night. I to bed before the night. I went to bed before the end the game, and i have to end of the game, and i have to say very happy husband this morning shouting morning there was this shouting weve kept awake. Weve been kept awake. Its bad enough when youre deaung its bad enough when youre dealing the and then dealing with the heat and then a shouting with the rugby shouting husband with the rugby played fiji, played fiji last night and fiji, who england only recently. Who beat england only recently. Although obviously although england now obviously favourites world cup favourites for the world cup after one but but after winning one game. But but wales to come through wales managed to come through there very , very there was a very, very, very worrying time the last 15 minutes because fiji then started scoring tries and if it wasnt for a drop ball they started scoring tries and if it wasnthavel drop ball they started scoring tries and if it wasnthave actually ll they started scoring tries and if it wasnthave actually beaten wales could have actually beaten wales. But wales are through. Its only scotland got beaten as only scotland that got beaten as far home are far as the home nations are concerned, but was south concerned, but it was south africa, you go. A long africa, so there you go. A long way to go yet. I heard my wife ranting about. But what is this . Instead of. But what is this . Instead of coronation street . So i could coronation street . So i could i think i think the rugby was on instead of coronation shame. Its on itv. Theyre really doing a horlicks of the coverage of the rugby world cup. Did they none of the replays of the action that you want to see the commentators you tell are commentators you can tell are frustrated. My frustrated. My father, my brother husband. All brother and my husband. All weekend hearing is weekend i was hearing this is the commentary really, the worst commentary really, really the worst commentary really, reaitheyll be theyll getting theyll be theyll be getting the from french the feed, though, from french television. I think its coming from else. From somewhere else. Tell its disconnected. Ive always said and ive always said this and i dont, know, just blame the dont, you know, just blame the french. Always easiest french. Its always the easiest way you know what i mean . Way to go, you know what i mean . Theres any problems. Dont do that. Theyll go on i that. Theyll go on strike. I think so, yeah. Paul be back in an paul going to be back in an hours paul going to be back in an hours time. Weve more hours time. Weve got more sport to about for the sport to talk about for the moment. You very much indeed. Stay with us. Still to come, as britains high streets turn into looting grounds for shoplifters, going shoplifters, were going to debate, a royal debate, do we need a Royal Commission review into our town centres . Thats channel 630 is the time. Its 11th of september. Youre tuned into breakfast with Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster here on gb news. Lets bring you up to date with some of the top stories this morning. And 22 years on from the attack that changed the world, we look back on september the and learn that the the 11th and learn that the Terror Threat the uk is still the 11th and learn that the terreal� nreat the uk is still the 11th and learn that the terreal asat the uk is still the 11th and learn that the terreal as everthe uk is still the 11th and learn that the terreal as ever. 1e uk is still as real as ever. An inmate has been stabbed at wandsworth prison just days after terror suspect danny cauph after terror suspect danny caliph escaped from the prison. Do you think our prison system is fit for purpose . Is fit for purpose . And as the Prime Minister returns from the g20 summit in india, more details come out about the westminster staffers alleged to be spying for china. Alleged to be spying for china. And you can have your same people have been having their say. What are they saying . Its about lots of people coming in with memories of where they were when the attack happened. Saying i was at home. People saying i was at home. This is from yvonne tierney. People saying i was at home. This islfrom yvonne tierney. People saying i was at home. This isi was yvonne tierney. People saying i was at home. This isi was at onne tierney. People saying i was at home. This isi was at hometierney. People saying i was at home. This isi was at home having been neve, i was at home having been in hospital. I wasnt aware at the time of 911. I remember switching the tv flicking switching the tv on, flicking through channels, and i saw through the channels, and i saw it but actually it happening, but actually thought was film and other thought it was a film and other people saying that they remember it. Had failed it. Their daughter had failed their they were their driving test and they were upset was working upset about that. I was working as shirley on lakenheath , us air as shirley on lakenheath, Us Air Force Base and married to an air force base and married to an air force personnel. The news was devastating and we were locked in and put on high alert. Everyone wanted to check on families and couldnt. We will never forget that day. So many people saying thing. People saying the same thing. Remember being in london i remember being in london and it was frightening. It just was. You felt whats going to happen was just so many happen next . It was just so many things and was things going off and nobody was able if this was true able to confirm if this was true or that was true or whatever. Your memories, we revisit 9 11 and you can join in any of the discussions by getting in touch there. Isabel has got all those emails gb views gbnews. Com or you can tweet us at. Gb news. You can tweet us at. Gb news. Okay, lets take a look at our newspaper front pages on this monday morning. And heres the daily mail. Its leading with after research is arrested for spying , rishi confronts for spying, rishi confronts chinese pm while mps condemn it. Lets have a look at the mirror. Terror on the streets. New dog attack chaos makes the home secretary take action on this one. Want to talk about this one. Want to talk about this throughout the programme . Is it bad dogs, bad owners . Are is it bad dogs, bad owners . Are there certain breeds that are just, you know, trained to do bad things . And we have a debate on that, dont we . 7 25, Something Like that. Let us know your views and well get a hot debate around the whole topic. There heres the whole topic. There heres the leading with our the express leading with our very own alastair stewarts revelation that hes suffering with early dementia. Really brave and tearful interview yesterday here on gb news with the excellent camilla tominey. And we wish alastair all the very best. Of course , and the very best. Of course, and the star goes on the weather situation. Situation. Ian, theyre calling Great British bunk off though, because as millions apparently are going to skip work today as the heatwave continues over britain. But Clare Purcell and Christopher Biggins are not bunking work today. Well, clares definitely not. Biggins is dressed as if hes about to be going homeless only afterwards. I mean, you can see the temptation. Christopher, can you . You . Oh yeah. I mean its weve had such a bad summer , so any had such a bad summer, so any bit of sun now is just fabulous. I mean, you just want to get out there. But its not sunny. Eamonn was making the point. Its hot andifs was making the point. Its hot and its muggy in the air is thick and you do anything and its sweaty, but its not. You know, lovely, sort of mediterranean dry sun, it . Mediterranean dry sun, is it . No, its better than it no, but its better than it hasits better than nothing. Its better than nothing. Its better than nothing. You know, theres and you know, theres sleepless nights are coming again, is awful. I mean, again, which is awful. I mean, weve fan our weve got a huge fan above our bed is he or she . Bed and who is he or she . Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. You and even its you , if you and even its you, if only because i may ask you this. Being an actor and going through a hot to hot day and then knowing youve got to go to theatre that night and a lot of theatres, particularly around london, theyre not well air conditioned or whatever. And is that something that you you could dread . Could dread . Well, its interesting. You should say that because we went last week to probably one of the most wonderful theatres from that of view in london, that point of view in london, the park open air the regents park open air theatre and if you get a good night there, its perfect. I night there, its perfect. I mean, you know, it can be hot , mean, you know, it can be hot, but theres somehow a magical occasion that happens and we went to see la cage aux folles, which was brilliant, and it was just wonderful because the evening was gorgeous. Its, you evening was gorgeous. Its, you know, one was having some rows wine and it was a good, good feeling. Other agree with you. Feeling. Other i agree with you. Some the in london some of the theatres in london are hideous. Are hideous. But work in to get but to work in to get yourself. Yourself. Yeah, its terrible. Yeah, its terrible. Terrible. You know, you its terrible. You know, you put the on it. Be put the costume on it. It may be even understand youve got even understand what youve got to to suffer for your to go through to suffer for your art, but nobody does anyway. And this really sad. This is really sad. Youre bunking off work, if youre bunking off work, well keep anonymous. Just if youre bunking off work, weluseep anonymous. Just if youre bunking off work, weluseep story onymous. Just if youre bunking off work, weluseep story and nous. Just if youre bunking off work, weluseep story and claire|ust tell us your story and claire claire, lets lets talk about morocco , first of all, which is morocco, first of all, which is which is its just awful. Its just awful. And anybody thats just awful. And anybody thats travelled to marrakesh knows how beautiful it is in the Atlas Mountains and all that sort of thing. But it would really frighten me off about ever going back. And i think thats what weve seen this summer. A number of big events like this. But this is the their worst earthquake for 120 years. It registered at 6. 8 magnitude and it was just east, south west of marrakesh itself. And of course, it hit all of those small villages up in towards the Atlas Mountains where help is going to be very, very hard to get. And i think just its heartbreaking. Such just its heartbreaking. Such a beautiful city as you say. I mean, its a unesco World Heritage site for some of it, but the construction will not be of the same standard as you would expect in, of course, many cities and things. Its a 12th century built city. It is to going be crumbling. And you can see that all of the pictures across most of the newspaper towers will have the massive cracks in buildings. Theres a tower of a mosque which is looking like its going to fall any second, but people have lost their homes. So i dont think we need to look at the effect on the tourists because they can they can go home. But the architecture that is now lost, the city walls in marrakesh, which are falling down. But i heard so many stories about people who worked in marrakesh. It was about 50km away from the epicentre and they couldnt get communication with their families in the Atlas Mountains and they had a cross blocked roads and whatever, and they get out to, to their family home just simply pull their relatives dead bodies from under the rubble and that has echoes of what happened in turkey earlier in the year. And to have two of these earthquakes right on our doorstep really here in europe of this magnitude , i didnt even of this magnitude, i didnt even know there fault line know there was a fault line between and africa. Well, between europe and africa. Well, its just, you know, were in the zone now. Here we are monday morning. This happened 11 00 morning. This happened 11 00 friday night, where to be honest, if there were people trapped, its life or death now for and they just dont for people. And they just dont have the resources there to try and retrieve many who will be dying in the worst possible way. Its a horror story , pleased to its a horror story, pleased to say british supporters is heading that way today. Say british supporters is heading that way today. British heading that way today. British red cross very much involved as well. And were sending, i think, 60 search and rescue operators as well. But it is absolutely tragic. Absolutely tragic. And the story you mentioned about that man who went to rescue his family, it took him days. He rescue his family, it took him days. He took rescue his family, it took him days. He took him. He rescue his family, it took him days. He took him. He walked 11 days. He took him. He walked 11 miles because there was no transport. He couldnt get through. And then to find first thing he found was his fathers leg. Yeah. And, you know, it leg. Yeah. And, you know, it must be so traumatic. Awful, awful , awful for the must be so traumatic. Awful, awful, awful for the families there, you know, just awful. I think sometimes christopher , i look at other stories and things are going to be things that are going to be important to us, but theyre first World Problems were not facing things like this. I mean, i to bring you on to this i want to bring you on to this Royal Commission for high streets. This is front page of the telegraph talking the Daily Telegraph talking about a Royal Commission is needed if were to save the high streets. I mean, i, i dont think theres any will to save the high streets at all. I say that im quite disheartened about the whole thing. I just about the whole thing. I just think people , local authorities think people, local authorities have let them go to rack and ruin and when you see shops like is it wilko . Wilko yeah. Wilko closing up, what do they replaced by woolworths . What doesit replaced by woolworths . What does it replace by hmv . What are they replaced by . Weve had the glory days of the high street, probably in the 80s or whatever. But what where do you see this story . Well, i we needed myself, my partner. We travel around england and the first thing we say whenever we get anywhere, look, another shop closed and there are hundreds on the highway on on the high street. And its soul destroying. And and its soul destroying. And now, i mean, john lewis is i think theyre in real trouble because, you know , i remember because, you know, i remember going to john lewiss all the time, but unfortunately, we can now order things. Yeah. And they come the day sometimes the day you order it. If not the day after. It is so convenient, which is awful because we are the causing the downfall of the and the thing is, claire, i dont think this is just about commerce. Commerce. Its not just about business and people making money. Were going to realise too late that a high street is about community andifs high street is about community and its about people mixing and its about tackling loneliness and tackling depression and whatever. I mean, to walk down. I mean, ill say this if i walk down my high street, people will say hello to me. Theyll pull me into shop, theyll talk to me. Therell be people you didnt even know you knew. And socialisation is going to go and. Thats right. And for most people, that is their hub. That people, that is their hub. That is where theyve always shopped. Their families have shopped there. People know you from growing up in a in a certain area and youre to going miss that. And for some people , some that. And for some people, some elderly or some people elderly people or some people with who are vulnerable with Mental Health is their Mental Health issues, is their only contact with an individual is if they go into a newspaper shop or they go into a local butchers, for example, that could be the only person they speak to that day. And we lose that. And its a really, really sad state of affairs. But i think biggins is right. We have all contributed to this with onune all contributed to this with online shopping. So the downfall of the high street is not just at local authorities and there is some blame there with with parking charges, with rent increases and all of the rest of it. But we all play a part in this, too. And i think that we need to look at what we do with the infrastructure. You have on a high street. And i know that in my local area were opening up a sort warm spaces and up a sort of warm spaces and Community Hubs and theres a brilliant mens Community Hub that has started up specifically because they had no space to go and talk to anybody. So a mens club has started up to give those guys the space that they can just go and talk without having to worry about it. And i think that we may see more of that kind of thing come up, but it does rely upon councils not charging the earth for the use of a building. I want to talk about this devil dog story. Its on the front of the sun this morning. I dont if you saw the dont know if you saw the footage over the weekend where you could hear the little girl screaming and then footage screaming and then the footage of running across and of the dog running across and attacking man home secretary attacking the man home secretary saying these saying she wants to outlaw these dogs. Mean, there dogs. Claire, i mean, there are certain that see certain breeds that when i see them, feel frightened and them, i do feel frightened and i do sometimes cross out of the way. So actually, as i have kids who love dogs and, you know, just gravitate towards them, its very difficult to navigate as a parent. But is this the fault of the dog or the owners and is banning them the answer . Having a, you know, its like having a, you know, a car like a, you know, a fiat 500 or whatever, and having something that is a so weve got a part. What a fiat 500. Yeah. You know what im saying which is nice and team and whatever are some beast of a power. Power. Oh i see what you mean. Yes, yes, yes, yes. The monster. So you know, theres no need for it. I mean, these dogs are bred to fight. Bred to kill. And isabel was saying, if one of her children go over and pet a dog, were not going to say it bites. But if it does bite, no human is going to be able to part their jaws get their squeal when jaws and get their squeal when they say, whoa. And excites dog. And and that excites the dog. And yes, i mean, look, have yes, its i mean, look, i have to responsibility for my to take responsibility for my children, you know, this children, but, you know, this girl was just girl sounds like she was just minding business. It was minding her own business. It was it was horrific. The video footage was absolutely horrendous. And the majority of the time, it is deed, not breed that you need to worry about. However, youve got worry about. However, youve got the rise of these cross breed dogs, which the kennel club doesnt see as a breed itself. And it is a mutation. People have put this fighting machine together, if you like , and they together, if you like, and they are frightening. They are bred are frightening. They are bred to fight. They are bred to to fight. They are bred to defend their jaws are four times more powerful than perhaps they would be in a normal sort of bulldog type breed. So i think that we need to look very, very carefully at these. Im normally not in favour of banning things, but i think that this is out of control. Control. Listen, ill tell you, if you if you go to instagram and you log on to and you start following people who dog following people who have dog web sites and things like this, you will see that there is probably no more loving animal on the planet than a dog. And we on the planet than a dog. And we why i mean, we could do this with humans. Theyre breeding abominations and it shouldnt be allowed to happen. Allowed to happen. Well, people are doing dog fights still, which i find, of course, thats absolutely appalling. How could that be happening . Happening . Hold that thought. Okay, hold that thought. Well guys well be back with you guys shortly. Of our top shortly. A reminder of our top stories with the time just a 6 45. So 22 years on from the attack that changed the world, we look back on september the 11th and gb news has learned that the Terror Threat in the uk is still, well, as real as ever i an inmate has been stabbed at wandsworth prison just as after terrorist suspect Daniel Khalife escaped. So the question being escaped. So the question being asked is our prison system fit for purpose . And the prime for purpose . And the Prime Minister returns from the g20 summit in india. More details come out about the westminster staff has alleged to be spying for china. Alleged to be spying for china. This spying situation. Were going to talk to your guests very, very shortly. And espionage expert and a former kgb Intelligence Officer with all of this. But claire, just a quick word about if westminster has been infiltrated , why is has been infiltrated, why is this of so much use to countries like the chinese . Like the chinese . Its always going to be of interest to countries like china. You you want to know what conversations are being had, which individuals are having conversations about china . It conversations about china . It doesnt need to be necessarily secret eyes only information. It secret eyes only information. It could just be little bits of intelligence. And that generally is what spying is like. Is there marriage happy or are they in financial trouble . So theyre under influence, right . Its all of the soft information. Heres alexander vasiliev. As heres alexander vasiliev. As i say, espionage expert, former kgb Intelligence Officer. Kgb Intelligence Officer. Alexander, thanks for talking to us today. And what way would a parliamentary spy operate . What are they looking for . Why are they so valuable to countries like china and russia . Like china and russia . Well, a researcher for instance, in in in the British Parliament could be used in at least three ways. First, to acquire more Sensitive Information , because i believe information, because i believe that researchers can request information from different Government Departments like defence, Foreign Affairs, treasury and so on. So one way, another way is to make an impact influence on political views of members of parliament, to promote ideas beneficial, members of parliament, to promote ideas beneficial , for promote ideas beneficial, for instance, in this case beneficial to china and the third way such a person could work as a talent spotter. Talent spotter means that he he would be collecting personal information about members of parliament and members of the staff , for instance, their staff, for instance, their political views , their financial political views, their financial situation and their family relation and so on. So its a pretty good source to have in as a researcher in the parliament. Its interesting. Were seeing what appears to be kind of the rise of spying again. I mean, we had the national, i think official secrets act being used to arrest three serbians earlier this year who were alleged to have been spying for russia and now these two arrests in parliament. And why are we seeing this increase and is particularly with china, i suppose theyve had these three decades, havent they, of huge Economic Growth now their economy is stalling. Are they looking to try and destabilise western democracies in this way 7 western democracies in this way . And whats the motive now . Look , britain is a liberal look, britain is a liberal democracy and its more its more vulnerable to espionage threats, more vulnerable than countries like russia or china. Countries like russia or china. There is another factor in the kgb lingo. Its called agent operating environment agent or hyperactive agent operational environment. It means a combination of factors which facilitates espionage work in this country. And from that this country. And from that point of view , britain is in a point of view, britain is in a pretty bad shape. I can give you an example. In 2016, i was shocked by the results of the brexit referendum. I was shocked by the fact that 48 of the voters voted against by brexit. To me, brexit is a very simple idea. Its about britains sovereignty. Its about Great Britain being ruled by the british politicians, democrats elected by british people. But but if 48 dont believe that britain should be ruled by by someone else, by people who they dont even know , its a bad dont even know, its a bad sign. But i mean, im not saying that every all 48 are potential spies or traitors, but as a as an Intelligence Officer, i would be i would Pay Attention to this how person im talking to feels about brexit. And if he if he is about brexit. And if he if he is a remainer, i would make a note in my in my head and then in my files. Gosh, thats interesting because of course, russia has been accused, havent they, of being involved in some ways in that vote. And obviously, your position as a russian. Position as a russian. Fascinating. And of this, fascinating. And all of this, i mean, do you end up being mean, how do you end up being a former kgb Intelligence Officer . Perhaps you always one. Perhaps you always remain one. Well, no , no. Well, i ask my well, no, no. Well, i ask my kgb spy now , i dont know whats kgb spy now, i dont know whats a spy . Always a spy . Always a spy . Well, no, its no, no, not true. Look, its different. Its difficult to tell a spy because normally espionage is about human relationship. Its about human relationship. Its about relationship between an officer and his agent, his source. So basically spies are first and foremost. They are trained to be nice people. I spent two years nice people. I spent two years in the in the kgb spy School Trained , being trained as a mr. Trained, being trained as a mr. Nice. And im sure you can see the results are excellent. So but then Pay Attention when theyre trying to get sensitive personal information about you , about your financial about you, about your financial situation and about your political views. Like i said, for instance, about brexit, its very important, that thing, your attitude towards brexit and also of course, money and alexander i suppose the less obvious as a spy suppose the less obvious as a spy is whatever we think a spy looks like , the better, because looks like, the better, because there was that couple who were bulgarian or romanian or whatever , and they were living whatever, and they were living in suburbia and no one ever thought anything of them. So some times they can be innocent or they can be innocuous and the less like a spy innocuous and the less like a spy they are, probably the more effective they are. Yes. Look, spies effective they are. Yes. Look, spies on the surface are normal. Nice people. You know, you could be a spy easily. Both of you. You could be nice. Maybe we a couple. Or maybe you are. Well, can you prove that you are not . You cant. You cant. So there are nice people because they are trained to be nice , right . Nice, right . Alexander, thank you very , alexander, thank you very, very interesting. Getting an insight from you there. Alexander vasiliev is a former spy. Thats what he used to do. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. And guns. You see, always look at you. I think you could be a spy. You could be spy. Spy. I would. I couldnt be a spy. I would. I couldnt be a spy. I tell you why. You could. Because people would laugh. You make people laugh and theyd tell you anything. No, but. But the is, i couldnt but the thing is, i couldnt bear being tortured. Give everything up. Id give everything up. Id give everything up. They went near my i mean, if they went near my nails started to them nails and started to rip them off, i tell them my life off, i would tell them my life story. I would tell them everybody ive been with since the dot. I mean, know, the year dot. I mean, you know, it right. It wouldnt be right. So okay until hes caught. Well, this is it. But if youre a good spy, you dont get caught. And thats got to be the way forward, hasnt it . But i think begins definitely of think begins definitely out of the sitting here, the four of us sitting here, i would put my money on begins. But interesting from but its interesting from alexander an alexander isabel raised an interesting alexander isabel raised an intehowng get out of being how do you get out of being a spy . I how do you get out of being a spy . I mean, you just i dont think you can hand your alexander. I dont think you can hand resignation into the hand your resignation into the kremlin thank you. Kremlin and just say thank you. Its nice. Ive enough. Its very nice. Ive had enough. Now off. Now im off. Look, i think i believe well, look, i think i believe i was the first one who resigned from the kgb intelligence service. Was in february service. It was in february 1990. I didnt know anyone else who did that , and i did that for who did that, and i did that for political and moral reasons because, you know, basically espionage is a crime. Anyone understands that. They are not stupid spies. So they if you, stupid spies. So they if you, for instance , if you operate in for instance, if you operate in this country , you are not really this country, you are not really in danger, especially if you are a diplomat. You have diplomatic immunity. But if your agent gets caught by m15 , his life is caught by m15, his life is ruined. His caught by m15, his life is ruined. His familys life is ruined. His familys life is ruined. Its ruined. His familys life is ruined. Its a ruined. His familys life is ruined. Its a crime. So if you ruined. Its a crime. So if you are prepared to do this kind of crime , you should be sure that crime, you should be sure that you are doing it for some war. The cause for your motherland. Now for your country. And by. By the time i decided to resign , i the time i decided to resign, i just couldnt see that i thought i would be. I would be wasting my time doing something i didnt want to do. And alexander in the 30s that weve got left, you know, theres this outrage that britain has that china is spying on them. On them. But isnt. The truth is were all spying on each other. Yes, we are. And of course, mi6 is one of the most experienced intelligence services. And you know, russians, frankly, have have a philosophical attitude about it because espionage, spying is one of the oldest professions. Its of the oldest professions. Its like prostitution. So, you know, like prostitution. So, you know, we are cool about it. And i dont know how the chinese feel about it, but russians are cool about it, but russians are cool about it. There we go. Okay. Spies thank you. Prostitutes all in one. Prostitutes all in one. Yeah, well , were. Prostitutes all in one. Yeah, well, were. Were filming that. There is. We want your views about how tough we should actually get with china. Will we get tough with china. Will we get tough and is it time to tell them were not taking it anymore . We will take some of the nice weather thats coming. Our way today. Heres rachel ayers. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest news. Weather forecast brought to you by the met office. So it was a hot weekend, but what does it look like as we go into the new week . Well there is plenty of brightness across much wales to much of england and wales to start morning any start this morning with any mist, fog cloud lifting mist, fog and low cloud lifting and breaking. But we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing an increase in cloud and outbreaks of rain sinking southeast throughout this morning. We might also see the odd, heavier shower and thunderstorm developing as we go into this afternoon. Still into this afternoon. Still feeling pleasant in any sunny spells , but those temperatures spells, but those temperatures a fair bit down on what we saw at the with highs of 27in the weekend with highs of 27in the weekend with highs of 27in the southeast. Now, as we go the southeast. Now, as we go into this evening, this cloud and rain will continue to make its way south eastwards, becoming heavy in places but also slow moving as goes into also slow moving as it goes into england and wales. Clearing skies there across scotland, Northern Ireland and later on across Northern England. So across Northern England. So a chilly night to come here. Those still humid and remaining warm further south. So as we go into the start of tuesday, a fairly foggy, humid and murky start to the day for much of england and wales with outbreaks of rain spreading south eastwards throughout the day. Plenty of sunshine though, for scotland, Northern Ireland and Northern England, but starting to feel a fair bit cooler here with those winds coming from a northerly direction. Still just clinging on to some of that warmth there across the south east with highs still getting into the low to mid 20s. Mid 20s. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news lots coming your way on. Gb news lots coming your way at 7 00. We reflecting this morning on 22 years on from the attack that changed the world. Experts have told gb news that the Terror Threat remains very. Time a very good morning to you. Its just gone 7 00. Its monday , the just gone 7 00. Its monday, the 11th of september. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster leading our news on this monday morning. 22 years on from the morning. 22 years on from the attack that changed the world. As we look back on september the 11th, gb news learns that the Terror Threat in the uk is still as real as ever. An inmate is stabbed at wandsworth prison just hours after the terrorist suspect Daniel Khalife escaped prison is the system fit for purpose . The system fit for purpose . Mps are calling on the government to ban lower achieving students from getting student loans. Our Political Correspondent Catherine Forster will tell you why. Will tell you why. Yes, a group of conservative mps think that too many people are going to university with very poor grades and that its not worth the money they want the money saved from funding those students to be put into apprenticeships instead. Ill apprenticeships instead. Ill bnng apprenticeships instead. Ill bring you more in a moment. With education, they dont know whether theyre coming or going. One minute its education. Education education, then its apprenticeships. Then its apprenticeships. Thats a great idea. Funny i think brexit is a lot to do with this. I think when they find out they havent got mortimer mechanics, hairdressers, waiting staff, so everybody staff, whatever. So everybody goes, oh , lets have goes, oh, lets have apprenticeships. Apprenticeships. You know, that must seem mad to be sending people that havent got gcses in maths or engush havent got gcses in maths or english or even have a series of english or even have a series of e level a grades to university. Why well, especially, yeah , well, especially, yeah, especially if you make that seem more attractive than actually going and getting a good solid career and profession with something thats of use to people. But as tony blair, hes the man. Education education, education too much of it. Too much of it. I would say too much education isnt an education type. Youre absolutely right. Type. Youre absolutely right. It is an education. And it is something that you can admire and you can look at and you can say to somebody they have got a skill that very other few people possess, like rachel ayers. Our Weather Forecast after a very warm to hot weekend, what can we expect from the weather as we go into the new week . Join me later for a full forecast with all the details is rachel with the weather paul coyte with the sport at a very happy man there. He is a very happy man. Im the man with too little education, by the way. But novak. Novak djokovic, again, so fourth us open championship, talking about. Talking about. What are you talking about . What how have you two little education . Well, you know, could have been better could have been could have done better. I been better could have been could have done better. I could be here for about half an hour talking that fourth us talking about that fourth us open for djokovic, open win for Novak Djokovic, 24th grand wales managed 24th grand slam. Wales managed to get fiji. And guess to get past fiji. And guess what . Lewis rubiales finally is going to step down as president in spain. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Hes coming though, within the next couple of days. If were okay. All right. Were lucky. Okay. All right. You been getting in lots of you been getting in touch this morning. Thank you for well reflect for your emails. Well reflect on just soon as we can on those just as soon as we can and coming gb and keep them coming in. Gb views. Gbnews. Com or you can tweet. Gb news. Tweet us at. Gb news. So here we are. Its monday, september the 11th, and 22 years on since the world changed forever. Were nearly 3000 people were killed in the space of 90 minutes. Senior Security Experts have told gb news that large terror groups like al qaeda and isis could re emerge as significant threats to the uk authorities are currently tracking around 800 live terror investigations. 800 live terror investigations. Weve got a special report now from our Homeland Security edhon now from our Homeland Security editor, mark white. Its his exclusive investigation. It was exclusive investigation. It was a brutal and shocking attack heralding a new era of International Terrorism, where groups like al qaeda and then isis chose often soft targets in western cities. Crowd crowded places to cause mass carnage. But in the 22 years since nine over 11, those big organised terror groups have been severely degraded by concerted action from Coalition Armed forces and Security Services in intelligence analysts over there at me , five analysts over there at me, five are constantly scanning the honzon are constantly scanning the horizon for new threats. They horizon for new threats. They are out there. Al qaeda isis and associated groups are greatly diminished these days , but they diminished these days, but they could easily re emerge. The could easily re emerge. The terror groups are now scattered around multiple countries in the middle east, africa and asia. And continue to launch more localised attacks. But extremist experts warn they could become a potent threat to the west again, as governments focus more on state threats from russia, china and iran. I think the big fear has to be that if that pressure is lifted off, things might regress. And if we look at the underlying problems that sort of led to the emergence of a group like al qaeda that led to the emergence of a group like isis that led to the rise of the sort of extreme right wing as a terrorist problem, you know, around none around the world, really, none of problems have really of those problems have really been know, been resolved. You know, and a lot of them still bubbling lot of them are still bubbling below the surface for now. The predominant threat is from lone individuals, radical ized propaganda arms of ized by the propaganda arms of both islamist and right wing extremist groups. But with extremist groups. But with increasing ungoverned spaces in a number of countries , is there a number of countries, is there is real concern that those more organised groups could once again flourish . Again flourish . Thats what theyre really concerned about. Areas of concerned about. Areas of afghanistan say that dont have much rule of law over them. Much rule of law over them. Pockets of syria, bits of north africa where they might reinstate themselves. And make no mistake , that jihadi no mistake, that jihadi philosophy, that jihadi theories, the aim to create a jihadi state is still there amongst certain individuals. Us uk authorities have told gb news they are currently pursuing around 800 live terror investiga missions. The majority relate to lone individuals, but also to more organised plots and threats from state actors. Get threats from state actors. Get out of here. More than two decades after nine over 11, the threat is far more diverse than its ever been. More quite gb news well, someone who was there. Lets get the thoughts of the chair of republican overseas uk , an eye witness to what happened on the day greg swenson, whos been a friend of this program, and we didnt know, greg, that you were subjected to all of this. Bring us back 22 years. And when you knew something was really wrong i yeah, i was at the time i lived in chicago, but i was visiting new york for meetings. I was a bond trader at lehman brothers, so i did frequently go to new york, to the headquarters. Lehmans headquarters was at three world financial , also three world financial, also known as the American Express tower. Its the Green Pyramid building connected to the north tower by pedway, right across the street, right across west street from the north tower. So i was just greeting a customer , i was just greeting a customer, a client of mine at on our on our on the ninth floor at lehman, when the first plane hit. So i had no idea what had actually happened. Did you feel that . Oh, yeah. Did you feel that . Oh, yeah. You definitely felt what you definitely felt it. What did think . Did you think . Of it was hard to interpret. It was the people on the perimeter that were, you know, right across from the north tower. You know, because its an open trading so the open trading floor. So the people the perimeter were people on the perimeter were yelling to those of us in the centre to get out. Right . So i didnt i had no idea to even when i was outside, we went down the fire escape, which is a little know, it was little intense. You know, it was only but it felt only nine floors, but it felt like 90 was watching the fire from the corner. You know, literally across street. You literally across the street. You know , you know, staring up, know, you know, staring up, watching the fire. Everyone was just trying to figure out, was it a small plane . Was it a just a natural gas explosion or an electric . You werent thinking about tower at that stage. Tower collapse at that stage. Second plane thats the second plane hit. Thats when knew were bad when you knew things were bad because you you was because you could you could was a pattern that was feel the oxygen being sucked out of the air. And when the second plane hit, theres a lot of, you know, shrapnel , for lack of a better shrapnel, for lack of a better word, coming down from the tower. So people thats when we had make a move. But the had to make a move. But the first the first 15 minutes, i thought i was going into thought i was going back into the i was telling my the building. I was telling my client, know, just be client, you know, just be patient. Well back in. Well patient. Well go back in. Well skip meeting. Patient. Well go back in. Well ski|the meeting. Patient. Well go back in. Well ski|the thing meeting. Patient. Well go back in. Well ski|the thing ireeting. Patient. Well go back in. Well ski|the thing i always at it the thing i always look at it and think, oh, i dont know and i think, oh, i dont know how i would have coped when the buildings collapsing, when buildings were collapsing, when all people were all that dust and people were losing breath trying all that dust and people were lorhide breath trying all that dust and people were lorhide from reath trying all that dust and people were lorhide from the th trying all that dust and people were lorhide from the th clouds| all that dust and people were lorhide from the th clouds and to hide from the dust clouds and things missed that were things you missed that you were lucky out ahead of that. Lucky you got out ahead of that. Yeah i mean, i i was lucky. Yeah i mean, i was i was lucky. We moved when the second plane hit. That was enough. That was to know was visible enough. And to know that this was a real problem. So that this was a real problem. So we moved north and you could see the down west the firemen coming down west street. It was really god bless them. You know, in retrospect, you know, were going north, getting away , walking ten getting away, walking ten blocks. A woman with me blocks. I had a woman with me who was a client and i needed to get her to safety. That was the get her to safety. That was the most important thing. But these these firemen were loaded with gean these firemen were loaded with gear, running down west street into the building. It was just into the building. It was just an awesome moment. And, greg, we can hear from your accent that you were born and raised. Youre a new yorker, right . You know how does that hun . Right . You know how does that hurt . Know, because hurt . You know, because obviously you werent directly affected, but you knew people in the tower, not only from work, but kids youd grown up with but but kids youd grown up with going to school with. Yeah. Town. Devastated my town. My mother, died a mother, coincidentally died a few weeks later. You know, i few weeks later. You know, i think it was two weeks. There were 22 funerals ahead of her at my church, you know, so Saint Patricks was devastated. My high school had 75 alumni and parents died. Not only bond traders and bankers, but firemen and cops, too. And it just so it really it really hit the neighbourhoods because these were all towns that were prone to have of wall street people. Yes. And also firemen and cops. So its just you know, thats the nature of my high school, all boys catholic high school. So it really had a deep connection being a catholic and guilt playing such a big role in our lives. You know , did you ever feel you know, did you ever feel guilty that you survived and others didnt . Others didnt . No, not not really. I mean, you know, your first motivation is to look after the people youre with. The second motivation was to get home and see my wife and my two baby and toddler at the time. So, you know , once once you get through know, once once you get through that, then then you start to think about all the just all the carnage that that happened. And yeah, i had a lot of friends and both from working at lehman brothers, know, to brothers, but also, you know, to going high school nearby and college. My university was pretty, pretty hit pretty hard, too. Youre still big in politics. You follow it closely. Were you follow it closely. Were reporting today that the threat remains the same. There are 800 live here in the live investigations here in the uk. Do you feel safe here in the uk . Do you still worry about it . Maybe its having lived through only, you know, through it, not only, you know, i there in 93, also two, you i was there in 93, also two, you know, just again, bad luck. I lived in chicago at the time, but i was the 93 world trade but i was at the 93 World Trade Centre bombing. But think, you centre bombing. But i think, you know, in after know, living in new york after nine divided those few nine divided by 11, those few years it was, you know, it years where it was, you know, it was really elevated and every building had armed a lot of armed security. And so you just armed security. And so you just got used to it. And even even in chicago with the sears tower now called willis tower being such a such a well known building and working across the street. So you just got used to it. I ive always felt like the, you know, the level of risk is higher here just because of where we are. And i think the countrys had a more history of terrorism, unfortunately. And so i think, you know, the guard is probably down in the us. You dont have that that vibe that you did the first five years where everyone , you know, youd get on a plane or a train and look around and very, very high alert level. I dont think you see that anymore i gosh, greg, thanks. Thanks for reliving that with us. And glad you you feel mentally and competent about it all. And yeah, but great talking to you here as usual. Lovely. Thank you very much indeed. Thank lovely. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. Well were going to carry on talking about this now with chris phillips. Former head of the hes former head of the National Counter terrorism secure morning secure office. Good morning to you. Just studio you. Just in the studio discussing how vibe has discussing how the vibe has moved really from the media moved on really from the media aftermath and yet the threat remains the same. It might have changed, but the level has has has remained the same. Just has remained the same. Just explain how the threat has changed since then. Changed since then. Yeah, well, if you if you want to actually go back to the 10th of september and the threat in the us was was considered quite low and were kind of back to fascinating. Were kind of to fascinating. Were kind of back to that stage now really, albeit the Terror Threat itself from big events , i think we from big events, i think we would say that theyre much less likely than than before. However what al qaeda and isis have done is actually say to their people, listen, go out and commit individual acts of terrorism. And i think thats the way were were facing this at the moment. And, of course, we saw in manchester an individual go off and managed to kill lots and lots of people. So the Terror Threat is still there. The likelihood of these big attacks is much, much lower than it has been. Certainly post 9 11 , been. Certainly post 9 11, snyders i mean , im snyders i mean, im particularly thinking about irish republican ism. And has that gone off the chart now . Is that not regarded as a threat or what proportion of our Security Services are dedicated to monitoring the irish threat. Irish threat. Yeah. Eamonn, you grew up with terrorism as a as a daily part of your life in Northern Ireland and to some extent that has faded. And of course Northern Ireland is now a much safer place, but there are still individuals and groups of individuals and groups of individuals actually who want to continue the fight and, you know, the uk has faced terrorism in one form or another for 100 years and so thats not likely to go away. The sad fact is that mi5 to go away. The sad fact is that m15 have so many things on their plate. Not only have theyve got the threat of al qaeda and isis and individuals within that , you and individuals within that, you know, hundreds, thousands actually of people in the country that are of concern. But also theyve got Northern Ireland also. Theyve got youve been talking about the chinese spies. Falls to them spies. That falls to them as well. All these are real well. All these things are real threat to society. Low days of work goes on in the background to keep us safe. But of course, one these always pop up one of these can always pop up and us some harm. Well chris, and do us some harm. Well chris, hopefully theres people like you out there who will stop this. But for the moment, chris is a former head of the National Counter Terrorism Security office. Thanks for your time this morning. Really appreciate it. And i think when chris was talking about my situation about growing up with it, i think the thing about terrorism, which is different from other forms of murder and whatever, when its completely indiscriminate , like completely indiscriminate, like the Manchester Arena or theres other manchester bombings and shopping malls , canary wharf, shopping malls, canary wharf, various things that went on, omagh are just just awful. And omagh are just just awful. And you would think, why . Why did you would think, why . Why did you not consider who was there and do that . And thats the evilness , the evilness of evilness, the evilness of terrorism. We had all those bndge terrorism. We had all those bridge attacks, didnt we . Here in london. Here in london. And well, the thing about irish terrorism, which was different, they werent offering up nobody was going up martyrs. Nobody was going to die cause. Whereas with die for the cause. Whereas with middle eastern terrorism, people are prepared to be suicide bombers and things. Were talking about education next. And wed love to get your thoughts in all of this. A few thoughts in all of this. A few education stories doing the rounds. Lets bring in our Political Correspondent, catherine foster, to discuss Political Correspondent, cath well, if the savings that they think this will bring are put into apprenticeships, then possibly this is a group of about 30 conservative mps that came to in 2017, 2019. And what theyre saying is that low achieving students who dont pass english and maths at gcse or dont get a minimum of three es at a level , which i think es at a level, which i think most people would think was a pretty low bar , should not be pretty low bar, should not be allowed to take out a student loan because theyre saying that, first of all, its not money well spent for the taxpayer. And also its not taxpayer. And also its not money well spent for the students because very often they dont go on to earn graduate salaries. That £50,000 worth of debt on average is not worth it. So theyre saying stop those children getting the loans. Theres just under 3000 a year at the moment that go to uni with lower grades than that poor put the money that youre saving into a massive expansion of apprenticeships. Into a massive expansion of apprenticeships. Now into a massive expansion of apprenticeships. Now weve apprenticeships. Now weve heard, havent we, from tony blair onwards, education and education, 50 to go to university. Theres a feeling now that kids are going to University Without thinking if its really the right thing and that what we need is far more good quality apprenticeships like in germany , for example, like in germany, for example, more than half of children do apprenticeships here its like 10 and there are few and far between , to be honest. Between, to be honest. Well, we need to accept, i think, that apprenticeships are still education, just, you know, horses courses. I want to horses for courses. I want to ask you about this report thats come to say that london, come out to say that in london, pupils are receiving 9. 7 more funding than in the north. I mean, this will just feed into the whole argument that levelling up has failed when it comes education. Comes to education. Yeah, we heard a about yeah, we heard a lot about levelling up, didnt we . But this seems to be the opposite. This the child of the this chair of the child of the nonh this chair of the child of the north group. Sorry, it turns out that in london are that children in london are getting nearly more per getting nearly 10 more per pupil , an getting nearly 10 more per pupil, an average of getting nearly 10 more per pupil , an average of 6600, where pupil, an average of 6600, where somewhere like yorkshire, 5900. Now youd think that where children were coming from more depnved children were coming from more deprived backgrounds, they would be getting more money. Obviously theyve got more challenges to overcome, it seems to be the overcome, but it seems to be the opposite. And this group are saying that, you know, that has a knock effect on public a knock on effect on Public Services because theyre more likely to fall behind. Theyre likely to fall behind. Theyre more likely to do badly at school, then end up , you know, school, then end up, you know, the criminal Justice System , the criminal Justice System, Mental Health concerns, whatever. And so i think , you know,. And so i think, you know, levelling up the slogan, but what where is it really . I think a lot of people around the country still feel that london gets special treatment. And this seems to be another example of that. Well, i suppose you should try and live in london, and im sure bus charges are higher. You know, all sorts of things to get around and go to school in around and to go to school in london is probably more expensive we really expensive. So we dont really know where that moneys going or what its being used to substitute. Know this substitute. But i do know this much the eejits who much that the eejits who run this country and who actually think that a child should be discriminated against for the rest life because they rest of their life because they havent got o level, maths or whatever its called now, at that level, at 16 years of age, and therefore they should not be allowed something grand, allowed to do something grand, have arithmetic , which you have arithmetic, which you probably will need in your life, but you dont need maths. Theres in maths that theres nothing in maths that youre to for the youre going to need for the rest of your life and i think its terrible prejudice to then say go to third level say you cant go to third level education. I speak , i education. Sorry, i speak, i speak personal experience. Speak from personal experience. I o level but i dont have o level maths, but i dont have o level maths, but i train, i trained as a journalist. Why would why would we not have an a level maths . Stop me being a journalist. But you know, its absolute. Its absolute nonsense. They get their whole priorities wrong and they put people in a box. They want everybody in a box. Why . You know, i just a lot of it is nonsense. I think we teach the wrong things at school. I think we more about life we should teach more about life lessons well. And ill go on lessons as well. And ill go on about it again. Ive got top marks shakespeare marks in english and shakespeare and everything, and i can appreciate shakespeare is appreciate it. Shakespeare is of no to anyone. A its a no use to anyone. Its a its a discerning extra that you can have. And its very nice, as i see at the top of the cake. But should learn cooking should you learn cooking at school learn school instead . Should you learn how to get a mortgage . You know, business skills and whatever as well . I think were teaching the wrong do think . Wrong things. What do you think . And thank you very yeah. And thank you very much, for explaining yeah. And thank you very much,stories for explaining yeah. And thank you very much,stories. For explaining yeah. And thank you very much,stories. And r explaining yeah. And thank you very much,stories. And i explaining yeah. And thank you very much,stories. And i thinkining those stories. And i think youre right. Its the debate about whether not education about whether or not education is in of itself , is for its in and of itself, whether you think shakespeare in and is worth learning and of itself is worth learning or think it is. Or whether you think it is. Education just purely so that education is just purely so that you the world of you can go into the world of work. Think it should be both. Work. I think it should be both. Thats position. My subway thats my position. My subway sports stories paul coyte has got us today and what got those for us today and what do you want to concentrate on . Well, probably the one thats happened most recently is going to be Novak Djokovic wins the us open again. Fourth time that open again. Fourth time that hes won the us open , which hes won the us open, which means 24 grand slams. Hes beat daniil medvedev. There he is. Look celebrating. Very happy. I mean, the thing is, hes probably going to come up with Something Different each time. What do . I crawl down on what do i do . Do i crawl down on the fake the tears . The floor . Do i fake the tears . Do look exhausted . And ive do i look exhausted . And ive doneit do i look exhausted . And ive done it so times . Well, done it so many times . Well, its there he goes again. I wonder djokovic wanted i wonder what djokovic wanted to when he grew up. You know, to be when he grew up. You know, when he was was a kid, when he was when he was a kid, im from a very young age, im sure from a very young age, it was nothing else. But tennis, tennis, tennis. Yeah someone like him. With maths, i dont think but with maths, i dont think the old, 30, 40 would the 15, 15 old, 30, 40 would make any difference to him. Make any difference to him. What . Hes jewish. How does that work out . 40, 40. And then it goes to advantage. My Worst Nightmare was when i worked bbc sport. One of the worked for bbc sport. One of the first things they gave me was the darts championship the world darts championship ukip maths and that did not fun. And you have to do it in reverse. So. So subtract whatever. Thats my nightmare. Thats my nightmare. But ive got such admiration for people who can see what the player has got to go and treble, treble 15, treble 20, double 18. No, no , double nine. Yeah, no, no, double nine. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But. But i tell yeah, exactly. But. But i tell you what, i really did like and this is coco goff, who who obviously won the womens title at flushing meadows. She won. She was great. I mean, have you seen the family, the familys names . Theres corey. Theres coco. And her real name is coco. And her real name is corey. And add corey and candi. Corey. And add corey and candi. Theres a the parents. Then theres cody , whos one of the theres cody, whos one of the sons. Theres a cameron in there. The only the only thing missing is a kuwaiti, isnt it . Do you think so . I could join the family. But Arina Sabalenka, who lost, who was the world number one . This is really number one . Now, this is really good. If youre going to good. Now, if youre going to lose when you go back. You lose is when you go back. You have to fake smile. You have have to fake the smile. You have to give the speech. Weve got something here. This is actually footage have seen footage from the have you seen this room this from the dressing room after lost. So she goes back after she lost. So she goes back in. Shes already shes so shes shes lost against corey or coco. Shes given the speech and hopefully weve got that and we can see going back into can see her going back into the changing afterwards. Changing room afterwards. Oh, we dont have theyve oh, no, we dont have theyve waited until you got to the very end of that sentence and they said, we dont have that. Youre kidding me. Instead of saying we can have the the sentence, see the start of the sentence, see your all of that. Your agony for all of that. Sounded very good. But it sounded very good. But it sounded very good. Know what . You know what . You know what . Ill have it for you for the eight. She said, im dying to know she basically walks in. She walks into the i can probably do better than she probably do it better than she did. She the award did. Then she puts the award down. Looks around, she down. She looks around, she pulls her racket out of her bag, looks around, smashes, smashes the was the racket, the camera was on her. Very much. Her. I doubt it very much. I doubt it very much. Tape. Camera tape. Camera but do you know what love but do you know what i love about breakpoint . And i talk about breakpoint . And i talk about a lot on this program about it a lot on this program now still watching now because im still watching the the behind the series is you see the behind the series is you see the behind the looking out of the scenes looking out of flushing meadows. So now theyre broadcasting that. How they actually its a how they actually are allowed camera. Allowed to have a camera. Well, in the dressing rooms, its probably question its probably another question altogether. We altogether. But anyway, its we do you, so well do have it for you, so well show you after 8 00 because its the fit of and the biggest fit of pique. And shes hold all in shes managed to hold it all in throughout. Again, throughout. But then again, smashes after that. Smashes a racket after that. Okey. Okey dokey. So do you tend thank you. So do you tend staying for work for the rest of the day . Are you going to bunk off they off britain today . You know what . I got to tell you, i think its a little too hot to bunk off. You know what . I prefer to be indoors where its a little more air conditioned. My is not air conditioned. My house is not air conditioned. My house is not air conditioned. Was last conditioned. It was too hot last night. For about an night. I slept for about an houn night. I slept for about an hour, as you can tell. So i think ill probably and also, im know, im a very hard im a you know, im a very hard worker. You know that. Of course he is indeed. Ill need the money. Heres rachel you what rachel ayers telling you what the is. The weather is. Feeling inside from that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayres and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So it was a hot weekend, but what does it look like as we go into the new week . Well, there is plenty of brightness across much england and wales across much of england and wales to this with any to start this morning with any mist, low cloud lifting mist, fog and low cloud lifting and breaking. But we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing an increase in cloud and outbreaks of rain sinking southeastwards throughout this morning. We might also see the odd heavier shower and thunderstorm developing as we go into this afternoon. Still feeling pleasant in any sunny spells, but those temperatures a fair bit down on what we saw at the weekend highs of 27 in the weekend with highs of 27 in the weekend with highs of 27 in the southeast. We go the southeast. Now, as we go into this evening, this cloud and will continue to make and rain will continue to make its way south eastwards, becoming heavy in but becoming heavy in places but also slow moving as it goes into england and wales. Clearing skies there across scotland, Northern Ireland and later on across Northern England. So a chilly night to come here. Those still humid and remaining warm further south south. So as we go into the start of tuesday, a fairly foggy, humid and murky start to the day for much of england and wales with outbreaks of rain spreading south eastwards throughout the day. Plenty of sunshine though, for scotland, Northern Ireland and Northern England, but starting to feel a fair bit cooler here with those winds coming from a northerly direction still just clinging on to some of that warmth there across the south east with highs still getting into the low to mid 20s i that 5mm that warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers as proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Now we all love doggies. Most people love doggies. You have to people love doggies. You have to be something wrong with you not to love a doggy. But not all doggies love us. And is that the fault of the dog or is that the fault of the dog or is that the fault owners . Are these fault of the owners . Are these sort breeds these. Sort of breeds these. These sort of killer type oh, these sort of killer type dogs, bully exiles . Dogs, bully exiles . I mean, who even knew that was a breed they bred to fight . But the fact is, isnt the sort of title there to enhance the owner . Ive not only got a dog, ive got an x l dog. You dog, ive got an x l dog. You know, the trouble is , if that know, the trouble is, if that dog puts its jaws around you, you aint getting them off. Thats the problem. And theres a big rhyme about this. People are them as out of are seeing them as out of control. There are clips of all control. There are clips of all of which well have for you of this which well have for you after the break. Were going to be that. It bad be debating that. And is it bad owners bad dogs welcome back. If youre just tuning in, the time has gone 731 and were just getting a story breaking story coming in, big manufacturing story , bmw are to manufacturing story, bmw are to build their next generation electric mini in oxford. Electric mini in oxford. And this is because the government funded a package for them to make it much more attractive. So its going to secure 4000 jobs, high quality jobs , according to ministers. Jobs, according to ministers. With that one. And there we are. And the government have invested £75 million into to all of this i yeah, its all sort of coming off the back as well of the big news about Ellesmere Port last week, the stellantis factory, £100 Million Investment there. It certainly seems as though electric vehicle manufacturing is on the up here in the uk. Well try and reflect on that a bit more throughout the course of the morning. Otherwise in the news, a prisoner has been stabbed at wandsworth just days after Daniel Khalife escaped. The man Daniel Khalife escaped. The man was taken to hospital in a Critical Condition after Emergency Services were called at around 3 00 yesterday afternoon. When the government afternoon. When the government has deployed 60 search and rescue specialists and four search dogs to morocco as rescuers dig through the rubble to try and hunt for any survivors following the 6. 8 magnitude earthquake. Magnitude earthquake. This comes after more than 2100 have already lost their lives in the countrys deadliest quake in six decades. Quake in six decades. Were going to show you a clip now which went viral over the weekend. This features what is called an american bully xl dog and it attacked a number of people. Lets have a look if youre listening on the radio, what you can see here is a group of people surrounding this dog trying to wrestle the dog off somebody who had been attacked. We know that an 11 Year Old Girl was the first victim in this incident. And the dog then ran across to a petrol forecourt where it attacked two further people. Theres the petrol forecourt if youre watching it on the screen. Now, this birmingham. Now, this is birmingham. Isnt horrendous . Isnt it horrendous . Yeah. This was in birmingham and many, many people. And it took many, many people. Theres a man there with a broom trying the dog off. Very trying to get the dog off. Very brave of the people who are trying to help. And that dog chasing giving chase off this poor falls to his feet poor man who falls to his feet as he tries to escape from this american bully xl. And that footage been shot from inside a bus there on that situation. Situation. So dogs like that have been blamed for rises in violent attack attacks. And theres warnings that years of inbreeding and violence training have made the bully xl really, really dangerous. Well, the home secretary has weighed into this argument. Shes come out Suella Braverman saying enough is enough. We need to ban these. It doesnt come under her job title, though. This is down to the department for environment and food and education. So asking this education. So were asking this morning, what do you think . Are you home secretary on you with the home secretary on this ban them . Joining this time to ban them . Joining us this morning doctor us this morning is doctor lawrence hes a legal lawrence newport. Hes a legal academic who thinks we absolutely academic who thinks we absandzly academic who thinks we absand there you have mark riley and there you have mark riley marks, a volunteer at rockys army who disagrees. Tell us army who disagrees. Tell us about rockys army. Then mark. What what is that organisation mean . Yes , were a support group yes, were a support group for people whose dogs are seized by the police under the control legislation, mostly dogs. That is not really hurt being out of control, but dogs that seize suspected banned breeds. Suspected banned breeds. But why do you not think that these dogs should be banned . The case against them seems pretty strong. Strong. Well, its whats been portrayed in the media. I mean, theres many every breed is capable of being dangerously out of control. And no matter what of control. And no matter what breed it is and all were going to do, if we ban the bully, were just adding it to a list that already is not working. Well, lets bring dr. Lawrence newport in on all of this. I mean, surely you have to be able to distinguish between breeds. I mean, just breeds. I mean, its just a fact, isnt it, that certain breeds bred gentle, to breeds are bred to be gentle, to be to be family animals, be soft, to be family animals, certain through , you certain breeds are through, you know, several generations and deliver great breeding, become more aggressive for fighting or whatever it might be. There is a differential, isnt there . Yes i mean, retrievers retrieve pointers point and fighting dogs fight. And these dogs were bred from a fight, winning dogs in the 70s and 80s and early 90s, actually. And over time, these dogs were then bred perhaps with larger crosses. Were not entirely sure. But if you look at their pedigrees, they are inbred over and over for larger and larger sizes. These dogs were fighting dogs bred to fight. So we shouldnt be surprised that that is what they do. Do. Mark, sorry, where do you get a dog like this . I mean, you just cant go down to the local pet shop and buy it. Where do these dogs come from . These excels. Can you hear these excels. Can you hear me . Mark evanier can you hear me . Hi. Yes. Me . Hi. Yes. Yeah, sorry. Yeah hi. Yes. Yeah, sorry. Yeah i was just asking you how you get how you get hold of one and what would you pay for one price is vary depending on which you know the breed it is, but people mostly buy online or through other organisations like you can with anybody. You know, you see dogs advertised regardless of where you go. Any social media advertised in the newspapers or like the pet shops, things like that are online at the moment. Mark how do you think this problem should be tackled . Because if you say , you know, because if you say, you know, its not working, just adding breeds banned list, what breeds to a banned list, what would work . Because you cant presumably think that the Current Situation is okay where people are being attacked in the streets, particularly children. Streets, particularly children. Nobody being attacked in the street is acceptable regardless. Again , of what breed it is. Again, of what breed it is. You know, you just try and single out one breed here, which but this happens with every type of breed of dog regardless of what it is. Yeah, but the difference is, mark, i may survive a bite on the ankles from a chihuahua, but im not going to survive when a when an excel gets its teeth into thigh. Into my thigh. Well, again , everyones well, again, everyones trying to blame this one breed of dog. Its not one breed of dog. You could be attacked by any big, big dog that could cause a lot of damage. So do you then ban anything thats told that a chihuahua . Dr. Lawrence okay. Well, dr. Lawrence newports shaking his head. Newports shaking his head. Bully. Well, if we ban the xl bully. Well, if we ban the bully, what next . Not just another breed will come along. And do we just keep going and keep going . All were doing here by banning breeds is put a plaster problem. No one plaster over the problem. No one is coming and dealing with what really needs dealt with really needs to be dealt with better ventilation, more training. So um, the american bully has only been in the country since about 2018. It has is led to the single largest amount of deaths to dogs in since records began in the uk. Its responsible for 70 over 70 of all fatalities since 2021. Its responsible for nearly 50 of all attacks in july. There was one dog every day killed by an american bully. Weve logged at least 350 or more attacks by this breed. It is not the case that its the same as other large breeds. If you want to, for instance, look at a great dane, great danes are about 80kg. Theyre huge. You about 80kg. Theyre huge. You cant find a Single Person killed by a great dane in the uk. If it was, id have to say the doctor talking there convinces me. Thats all i need to we thats all i need to hear. We dont need them. Why do you want them . Them . Its. Its. Its. You know, its like any different breeds. People like different breeds. People like different breeds. People like different breeds. You cant tell different breeds. You cant tell people what they can. And cant like, but you cant. Like, but you cant. You cant. Of course you cant. Around with a gun in the streets just because you fancy it. You it. You. You. You. But if you ban the bully and the breed is created, you also then just push scrupule breeders, bad breeders on the ground where the police cannot monitor them. Okay, well, listen , doctor okay, well, listen, doctor lawrence still shaking his head. We have to leave it there. Im pretty sure people at home will have their views on all of this this morning. I have say, im this morning. I have to say, im with you, eamonn, and with you, dr. You know, dr. Lawrence. You know, theres absolutely clue is absolutely no need. The clue is in name and xl bully devil in the name and xl bully devil dog as you say, 70 of the issues have been around. And issues have been around. And there their fault. So why bother . Why have them . Thats thats where it should , you know see, where it should, you know see, you call for a ban when you see endangered species of animals and general throughout the world. We are wrapping up. We dont need all this. Now i get rid of all this. And so thank you. So bafic. All this. And so thank you. So basic. We dont need these basic. We dont need these animals. Why encourage them . And animals. Why encourage them . And you look at all the species in the world thats dying out. Why are we encouraging this really weird, strange breed with a stupid name . Well, the trouble is also affects everybodys relationship with , because now i am with dogs, because now i am fearful dogs with my fearful of dogs with my children, i wasnt children, which i wasnt actually when i was growing up. And you know, he made the point there. Dr. Lawrence, that great danes, kilo dogs, never danes, 80 kilo dogs, never killed yeah. Danes, 80 kilo dogs, never killand yeah. Danes, 80 kilo dogs, never killand if yeah. Danes, 80 kilo dogs, never killand if you yeah. Danes, 80 kilo dogs, never killand if you show,. Danes, 80 kilo dogs, never killand if you show, you know, and if you show, you know, not to be fearful of these sort of things, but you should be fearful because that fearful of that because if that sticks teeth you sticks its teeth in you, you aint coming back from it. Its aint coming back from it. Its a terrible situation. At home are listening to you at home are listening to this this and you this or watching this and you have xl bully dog. Let us have an xl bully dog. Let us know. Try and tell us whats wonderful about them or perhaps dont because were not listening. Dont care. Im interested. Dont care. Im interested. Dont care. Im interested. Ill you this. What i do ill tell you this. What i do believe dog is the most believe is a dog is the most loving creature in the whole world. It is. It would melt your heart. Its best friend. Heart. Its mans best friend. And have nothing but good and i have nothing but good things say dogs. I do things to say about dogs. I do have bad things to say about this weird, crossbred red. I dont know how else to describe it. We dont need them. Really. Thats it. And theyre a danger to people. And 90 minutes before 8 00, stay with us. Were to going reflect on that breaking news this morning about announcing about bmw announcing a multi Million Pound investment in electric car industry. In the uk electric car industry. Stay with us penny says any dog can be out of control, but a bully dog is massive and its got a much bigger bite. Very scary. Bannau any massive breed. We knew the any massive breed. We knew the sort of person who seeks out this breed. They dont care about anyone. Theres need about anyone. Theres no need whatsoever for such an aggressive dog , says michael. Aggressive dog, says michael. Ban them round them up. Those that are in the uk and put them down before they put a human down. And we have had an email in saying that its not about the breed, that theyre absolutely lovely and we should do our research. But im afraid its not opinion, its the not our opinion, its the opinion expert. Theyre opinion of the expert. Theyre saying, a legal expert, that they the responsible for they were the responsible for they were the responsible for the majority attacks. I the vast majority of attacks. I think death a day think one dog death a day in july at the of xl. July at the hands of xl. I personally go with the doctors advice on that. Thats just me. Now, if thats just me. Now, if somebody talks about prisons and people escaping from prison and whatever it is , and, you know, whatever it is, and, you know, a lot of people have had a story, a life journey, and theyve come out of prison and theyve turned their life around, havent they, pagans . They have. They have. We have. They have. They have indeed. Lets have a indeed. Yeah. So lets have a lets a look and well lets have a look here and well show our life behind bars. Show you our life behind bars. Yeah, thats thats thats been big and your nameless begins. I know, i know thats begins. I know, i know thats theres just wash and we were welcoming him into prison there at stage because our prison at that stage because our prison was known as the celebs pretty slammer thats what it was. And weve no idea why we were doing it. Yeah well, any more pictures there . There . Anything else to see . Just. We can. We can talk you through that. No, thats it. No, thats it. Is that it . Is that it . Thats it. Thats it. Anyway, we did it for the money, didnt we . We for the money. We did it for the money. We did it for the money. Yeah. Yeah. And it was celebrity slammer. And i think the chief. I dont know if youre if youre ahead of your lag. Youre prisoner. Yeah. Yeah. Like if youre a prisoner. Like if youre a prisoner. Yes. So was david walliams. Yes. So was david walliams. Yeah. David. Yeah. David. So ran the wing, basically so he ran the wing, basically me but have no me for that. But we have no other memories. Wasnt us. No, it it wasnt for us. No, it wasnt for us, really. Orange wasnt our funny. Orange wasnt our funny. It never made a series. It never made a series. It does show there is but it does show there is life after because weve life after prison because weve got in reviewing the got begins in reviewing the papers the papers this morning. The rehabilitation worked well papers this morning. The rehaweveion worked well papers this morning. The rehaweve also worked well papers this morning. The rehaweve also wo formerell and weve also got former conservative claire conservative adviser Claire Pearsall for this. Lets pearsall for this. And lets start with you, claire. And i want to start with whats being described mickey mouse described as mickey mouse degrees. Prime degrees. I mean, the Prime Minister has kind of minister already has kind of declared those, hasnt minister already has kind of decland those, hasnt minister already has kind of decland now those, hasnt minister already has kind of decland now a those, hasnt minister already has kind of decland now a groups, hasnt minister already has kind of decland now a group ofiasnt minister already has kind of decland now a group of tory minister already has kind of decland now a group of tory mps he . And now a group of tory mps is saying that dont is saying that if you dont reach certain grades that you shouldnt get a loan from the government because its not good value the value for money for the taxpayer, because majority taxpayer, because the majority of these people dont go on to earn graduate wages. Thats and just thats right. And i just fundamentally disagree with this. And hear here, im with you. Its all very well to say that degrees are mickey mouse and there are some which are never going to be useful. But those courses will go by the wayside. But i dont think that you can have right to say you can have the right to say somebody your a level results were not very good. You must not go to university. Go to university. Well, theyre not saying you cant go. Theyre just not going to be paid for by the taxpayer. But theyre saying they shouldnt go at all. And that is what this group is saying. They the the new the this is the new conservatives. They have suggested people will suggested that these people will get 14 years worth of education paid for by the state. And anything above that is considered to be a luxury. Well, considered to be a luxury. Well, that isnt going to encourage people to go on and find a passion in something. And education is more than justof course it is. Of course it is. Yeah, it is. And thats what i fundamentally find so depressing this, that i fundamentally find so depr find Something Else that theyre very good at and lot of people very good at and a lot of people dont know what want to do dont know what they want to do at but whats that at 18, but whats to say that these people then decide these people dont then decide to apprenticeships and go these people dont then decide to a apprenticeships and go these people dont then decide to a totally iceships and go these people dont then decide to a totally differentand go these people dont then decide to a totally different path . down a totally different path . Is it so bad to say actually you didnt get these grades, perhaps youd be better going down route . Down this route . I think the word i think i think the word perhaps is fine. I think to told, know, i think to be told, you know, its like the 11 plus. I mean, if you if you look at where 11 plus still where the 11 plus still operates, that peoples lives are changed by passing or failing at 11 years of age, what theyre going and where theyre going to do and where theyre going to do and where theyre theyre going to do it. But but its so contentious , all but but its so contentious, all of these things. I find it interesting when i was young in the 60s, i went to drama school and everything was paid for. Yeah. You know, paid for. Yeah. You know, nowadays , why doesnt why is it nowadays, why doesnt why is it is it really so bad that there is it really so bad that there is no money to pay for . Because is no money to pay for . Because i think. Well then, i mean, i think Something Like 50 now go to university. Whereas back in the 60s wasnt anything like 60s it wasnt anything like that. There more money that. So there was more money going capita. Going around per capita. It. Was that was it. That was it. Was that was it. Was it. Whereas so many more people want to course burden want to go, of course the burden then taxpayer then increases on the taxpayer significantly. Yeah, surely we should be looking we fund looking at the way we Fund University and the University Education an and the loan system where people are paying loan system where people are paying long into their paying it back long into their 50s 60s is not right. 50s and 60s is not right. No, course its not right. No, of course its not right. No, of course its not right. We need address that we need to address that before start telling people before you start telling people they to university. They cannot go to university. I remember yeah, i remember Primary School, particularly as a magnificent learning adventure. Was just it was marvellous it was just it was marvellous to learn about, you know , to learn about, you know, Robinson Crusoe captain cook, dinosaurs, dinosaurs , saws, dinosaurs, dinosaurs, saws, nature leaves, bark rubbing, you know, goodness me, so many things. And it always look back and say, that was an amazingly fantastic time of learning. And i probably didnt even realise i was learning. But it was great. I totally agree with you. I loved school in those days. It was just fantastic. Well, i was aware of it that when you became 11 that you had to do an exam and then it became really scary. Yeah. That if you passed or failed in your life was determined as, as a result whether you did as a result of whether you did pass for university. I didnt go to university, no, but i do have two doctorates. Yes excuse me , christopher. Excuse me, christopher. Excuse me, christopher. Lets talk about alastair stewart. I know this is so sad. Stewart. I know this is so sad. Yes. I mean , i know alastair yes. I mean, i know alastair really well. And the reason i know him in the 80s, i did a tv series for tvs called on safari for children. And sally, his for children. And sally, his wife , worked on it. So thats wife, worked on it. So thats how i first met him then. And weve been friends ever since. And when i came to work here like im doing now , so it was like im doing now, so it was lovely to see him again. And he lovely to see him again. And he was was great, man , tireless was he was great, man, tireless journalist, really good fun and a twinkle in his eye. And then to hear this is devastating. Its awful disease. Its awful disease. Its awful disease. It is an awful disease. And it is an awful disease. And now, now going back , back to the now, now going back, back to the 60s, did this exist then, do you think . Yes. It was called hardening of the arteries. And it was was it . It was. Yeah. I and it was was it . It was. Yeah. I remember my. Yes. My grandmother and whatever. And people would say, well, whats wrong with and well, whats wrong with her . And they oh, shes got they would say, oh, shes got hardening the arteries. Hardening of the arteries. Thats way termed it. Thats the way they termed it. No word dementia or no one used the word dementia or anything like that or what i would say, dont read it in the express. To our gb f go on to our gb news website. Watch interview again with watch the interview again with camilla watch camilla tominey. You can watch it easily to it again really easily to clicks. Really clicks. And it was really powerful interview, tearful, emotive of and hes just got such a wonderful voice but like you begins really project hes got a great presence about him hes given up smoking hes doing everything he can. Hes doing daily crosswords and all the rest try and his rest of it to try and keep his brain ticking over. But theres not an awful lot you can do. Theres not. But the one thing that came out that interview yesterday out of that interview yesterday with was with camilla was alice was saying not the end of saying this is not the end of his life, that it yes, its going to be different. But hes not hanging up his his interviewing specs. Hes not hanging up his his interviewing specs. Hes going to carry on. And hes doing everything. Hes as you say, hes stopped smoking. Hes doing hes stopped smoking. Hes doing longer walks with the dogs. Hes longer walks with the dogs. Hes doing keep his brain doing puzzles to keep his brain occupied. Hes in touch with occupied. And hes in touch with his medical professionals. I his medical professionals. And i think that thats the way you should look at this. When we all think dementia or think of dementia or alzheimers, you look at it as a bit of death sentence and bit of a death sentence and somebody sitting in the corner not doing well, not doing anything. Well, alastair that you can alastair has proven that you can still you can still do still get up, you can still do your and be as smart as he yourjob and be as smart as he is with with suffering. And i think the kind of awareness that he bnng think the kind of awareness that he bring will be invaluable. Well, good luck to him and his family. And hes got animals in life. You know , horses in in his life. You know, horses in particular, which is good. And do we have this cat video or are we just talking about it . Everybody goes quiet, hysterical. This. So what were going to see now is a prolific cat burglar caught red handed. Lets have a look. So theyre lets have a look. So theyre through the cat flap. And the reason, isabel, im doing this because you plan to get a cat this week. We have a kitten arriving on friday, so im very excited. But did you see again for our radio listeners, cats come in through the bob hole with something in its im what its mouth . Im not sure what its stolen there. A knife. Its a knife. Its a knife. Yes. Knife. Yes. Oh, my. A murder weapon, probably. Oh, my. A murder weapon, pro hes. Oh, my. A murder weapon, pro hes been out on the tiles hes been out on the tiles that night, but you know what is so fascinating . Also sieve. Quite he also stole a sieve. Quite a big sieve. A maniac through a sieve. Sieve. Maybe its the magnetic collar. Collar. Oh. Do you think thats a good point . But its hysterical , though. I mean, the cats great fun , and there are lots of great fun, and there are lots of cats who do a lot of stealing. Okay. Yeah okay. Yeah and what would they be doing in the hot weather today . Lets go to rachel ayers and find out a brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So it was a hot weekend, but what does it look like as we go into the new week . Well, there is plenty of brightness across much of england and wales to start this morning with any mist, and cloud lifting mist, fog and low cloud lifting and we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing an increase in and an increase in cloud and outbreaks rain sinking outbreaks of rain sinking southeastwards throughout this morning. We might also see the morning. We might also see the odd heavier shower and thunderstorm developing as we go into this afternoon. Still into this afternoon. Still feeling pleasant in any sunny spells, but those temperatures a fair down on we saw at fair bit down on what we saw at the weekend with highs of 27 in the weekend with highs of 27 in the southeast. But now we go the southeast. But now as we go into this evening, this cloud and rain will continue to make its eastwards , its way south eastwards, becoming places, but becoming heavy in places, but also slow moving it goes into also slow moving as it goes into the england and wales, clearing skies, though, across scotland. Northern ireland and later on across Northern England. So a chilly night to come here. Those still humid and remaining warm further south. So as we go into the start of tuesday, a fairly foggy , humid and murky start to foggy, humid and murky start to the day for much of england and wales with outbreaks of rain spreading south eastwards throughout the day. Plenty of sunshine, though, for scotland, Northern Ireland and Northern England, but starting to feel a fair bit cooler here with those winds coming from a northerly direction. So still just clinging on to some of that warmth there across the south east highs still south east with highs still getting the low to mid 20s i a a brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news right. With the time fast approaching 8 00, we have lots more coming up for heres whats leading the news this morning. 22 years on from the attack that changed the world, as we look back on september the 11th, gb news learns that the Terror Threat in the u. K. Is still as real as ever. Real as ever. An inmate is stabbed at wandsworth prison just days after the terror suspect Daniel Khalife escaped. Khalife escaped. As the Prime Minister returns from the g20 summit in india, more details about the westminster staff alleged to be spying for china. Spying for china. And well be bringing you the latest weather updates with rachel ayres after a very warm to hot weekend , what can we to hot weekend, what can we expect from the weather as we go into the new week . Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. Forecast with all the details. And in the world of tennis, theres a man whos hot. And in the world of tennis, theres a man whos hot. I talking about me . Talking about me . No, Novak Djokovic. No, Novak Djokovic. How many titles . How many titles . How many titles . 24. 24 grand slam titles. Fourth us open in a rugby world cup, by the way. Wales got past fiji. Just about. Scotland got beaten by south africa, although. So its a pool of death that theyre in at the moment. And Luis Rubiales finally has woken up and smell the coffee and decided that its time to decided that maybe its time to step down. Okay, paul with you very shortly that and always you shortly on that and always you can at any of our can join in at any of our discussions. Email us, is discussions. Email us, which is what youve been doing today. And number there your and the number there on your screen address there on screen or the address there on your screen. Big reaction on on dogs. Paddy says theres no need to ban any dogs, just make it illegal for all dogs to be out and about without a muzzle. Im not sure i agree with that. No, dont. Matter of fact, i dont agree with that. But also lots of views on our top story. Sharons been in touch, remembering where she was 22 years ago today when twin years ago today when the twin towers struck. I was living towers were struck. I was living in tampa, florida , the the in tampa, florida, the day the towers it was the scariest towers fell. It was the scariest day of my life. I thought we day of my life. I thought we were war. Watching the were going to war. Watching the news days and seeing the news for days and seeing the emergency into Emergency Services going into the was is horrific. Yeah. Yeah. So your memories of yeah. So your memories of those days, very much welcome. So september the 11th, it is today 22 years since the world changed forever. Nearly 3000 people were killed in the space of 90 minutes. Senior Security Experts have told gb news that large terror groups like al qaeda and isis could re emerge as significant threats to the uk. And threats to the uk. And authorities are currently tracking around 800 live terror investigators. Investigators. Weve got a special report now from our home and security editor mark white. It was a brutal and shocking attack heralding a new era of International Terrorism where groups like al qaeda and then isis chose often soft targets in western cities, crowded places to cause maximum carnage. But in to cause maximum carnage. But in the 22 years since nine over 11, those big organised terror groups have been severely degraded by concerted action from Coalition Armed forces and Security Services in intelligence analysts over there at me , five are constantly at me, five are constantly scanning the horizon for new threats. They are out there. Threats. They are out there. Al qaeda isis and associated groups are greatly diminished these days , but they could these days, but they could easily re emerge. The terror easily re emerge. The terror groups are now scattered around multiple countries in the middle east. Africa and asia and continue to launch more localised attacks. But extremist experts warn they could become a potent threat to the west again, as governments focus more on state threats from russia, china and iran. I think the big fear has to be that if that pressure is lifted off, things might regress. Regress. And if we look at the underlying problems that sort of led to the emergence of a group like al qaeda that led to the emergence of a group like isis that led to the rise of the sort of extreme right wing as a terrorist problem, you know, around world, really, none around the world, really, none of problems really of those problems have really been and been resolved. You know, and a lot them are still bubbling lot of them are still bubbling below the surface for now. Threat the predominant threat is from individuals, radical from lone individuals, radical ized propaganda arms of ized by the propaganda arms of both islamist and right wing extremist groups. But with extremist groups. But with increasing ungoverned spaces in a number of countries , as there a number of countries, as there is real concern that those more organised groups could once again flourish. Again flourish. And thats what theyre really concerned about. Areas of really concerned about. Areas of afghanistan say that dont have much rule of law over them. Much rule of law over them. Pockets of syria, bits of north africa where they might reinstate themselves. And make no mistake , that jihadi no mistake, that jihadi philosophy, that jihadi theories, the aim to create a jihadi state is still there amongst certain individuals. Uk authorities have told gb news they are currently pursuing around 800 live terror investigate options. The majority relate to lone individuals , but also to more individuals, but also to more organised plots and threats from state actors. No, get out of state actors. No, get out of here. More than two decades after 911, the threat is far more diverse than its ever been. More quite gb news. Joining us now in studio 22 years on from all of that, Robert Courts roberts, a member of the Defence Select Committee in parliament. Robert, were asking everybody , do you asking everybody, do you remember the day . Do you remember the day . Do you remember what your reaction was . And i remember being very fearful. I actually thought that i was in london and i thought this is the end of the world. Yes. I mean, i think with all of us, it will be a day that will live in memory and nightmares forever. And i went over the museum recently over to the museum recently because i happened to be there for youve been for work. And when youve been through experience as well, through that experience as well, it it coming back. It brings it all coming back. I mean, ill never forget where i was, was just at home was, which was just just at home at was just waiting at the time. I was just waiting to go off to work. And i think as look back it now, the as we look back at it now, the real realisation that we have is that that was a horrifying event that that was a horrifying event that end a period that brought to an end a period of security and of relative security and relative since when relative stability. Since when the got ever more the world has got ever more dangerous. Weve had those asymmetric threats. We now of course have the of much course have the rise of much more traditional threats, as weve ukraine as well. So youre not filling me with a lot of hope here. You see it as a more dangerous world today. Right. But have we increased our resistance, our intelligence gathering, our defences against this , or are we as as vulnerable this, or are we as as vulnerable as ever . So youve put your finger on what is the key point, which is about intelligence. S and certainly nine over 11 was a massive intelligence failure in terms of understanding what these people were coming into these people were coming into the states to do. And the United States to do. And thats clearly something that the americans looked at and thats clearly something that the aporedins looked at and thats clearly something that the apored over. Looked at and thats clearly something that the apored over. Now,oked at and thats clearly something that the apored over. Now, ouri at and have pored over. Now, our intelligence agencies World Intelligence agencies are world leading. Are. Thats leading. They really are. Thats not bluster. They are not just bluster. They are exceptionally good. And you can see the run up to see that in the run up to ukraine, for example, what we knew and what we were learning from on, the critical from that point on, the critical importance understand that importance to understand is that those that often dont those things that often dont catch the headlines, but things that like that you dont see, things like the intelligence gathering, that you dont see, things like the intlike ence gathering, that you dont see, things like the intlike thee gathering, that you dont see, things like the intlike the logistics1g, things like the logistics capability of our armed forces, those often arent talked about but are absolutely critical to all those things we have all of those things that we have. Wouldnt want to not fill. I wouldnt want to not fill you with hope, but i do think everyone realise we everyone should realise that we are a period of are probably in a period of unpack, paralleled and unpack, paralleled danger and concern as the International Community because we dont just have asymmetric threats have these asymmetric threats of terror, have the rise of terror, we also have the rise of peer on peer challenge and potentially conflict in a way that we havent seen throughout most of our, would you say, peer and peer . What do you mean by that . What do you mean by that . Well, im referring to ukraine, of course, and the fact that we have a very bellicose russia. We have for the first time in lives, mechanised time in our lives, a mechanised large scale warfare on the european so you have european continent. So you have peer conflict and peer challenge in just havent in a way that we just havent seen. Weve grown used to since the world war, really not the second world war, really not since the second world war. Meanwhile, also and meanwhile, we also now are seeing these threats appearing own country, in appearing in our own country, in our own community. And im talking the spies that talking about the spies that were arrested, that researcher in in parliament very close to presumably positions that we must question whos in must make you question whos in your team, because were talking about tom tugendhat, who is, of course, security minister, the course, a security minister, the security minister, and alicia kearns, of the foreign kearns, the chair of the Foreign Affairs committee. I Affairs Select committee. I mean, the defence mean, youre in the Defence Select Committee. Must be select committee. You must be wondering, you whos wondering, you know, whos around wondering, you know, whos arorwell, i mean, there was well, i mean, i there was always a concern. Of course, whenever you hear a story like this, i mean, you have to be aware that at any time espionage is going on, thats a point of pubuc is going on, thats a point of public whatever public life. I mean, whatever position people will position you occupy, people will always be trying to out always be trying to find out secrets understand secrets and to understand things. It is clearly very shocking to see one that is at the heart British Public life the heart of British Public life and right at the heart of our democracy. But we just need to be aware of these things and that theyre mean, one that theyre there. I mean, one of things that did was of the things that 911 did was because the massive focus on because of the massive focus on organised terror, on groups like al qaeda, become much al qaeda, its become much harder for them to operate because of the intelligence increases that ive referred to already. So youve seen a lot of self starters and that means you have individuals who are lone wolves as the lone wolf, to call them self radicalized. Thats right. Self radicalised, who tend to be inspired by groups rather than giving direct instructions by groups. So thats a clear rise and a clear challenge. And that sort of challenge. And that sort of eternal vigilance is always something that you have to remember. And as far as remember. And as far as intelligence is concerned and gathering, i mean, clearly , you gathering, i mean, clearly, you know, those who are our adversaries or our potential adversaries, at the very least , adversaries, at the very least, will always be trying to gather information. And we have to remain alert to that. Robert, what are you you know, youre obviously your partys in power. The conservative party. The conservative party. The conservative party. And what about defence spending . I mean, were talking about here about, you know, you say that our intelligence gathering capability is higher and better , but we hear a lot about defence budget isnt what it should be be and where else do we need to be investing or spending . I mean, for instance, we havent talked about that irish republican violence. Has that gone away . Why is that still gone away . Why is that still a threat . Where else . Who else is threat . Where else . Who else is threatening us . Its exactly the point is that none of this has gone away. Thats thats why i say were at a period of perhaps unparalleled challenge, all challenge, because you have all of those asymmetric threats that havent gone havent been havent gone and havent been resolved. And we now have the return of something that we probably slightly complacently as had gone away as a society hoped had gone away of this much more conventional threat. Yeah. So, i mean , i sit threat. Yeah. So, i mean, i sit on the Defence Select Committee, my scrutinise the my job is to scrutinise the government i am absolutely government and i am absolutely clear, most parts everyone clear, as most parts of everyone on committee would be, that clear, as most parts of everyone on are committee would be, that clear, as most parts of everyone on are justmittee would be, that clear, as most parts of everyone on are just going would be, that clear, as most parts of everyone on are just going tould be, that clear, as most parts of everyone on are just going to have e, that clear, as most parts of everyone on are just going to have to that we are just going to have to spend more on defence than we are. You know, we are going to have to look towards 3 of gdp. I dont want that to an i dont want that to be an arbitrary itself. Its arbitrary figure itself. Its not money, its about not just about money, its about the just a quick the threat. Now just as a quick example, released a report on example, we released a report on aviation procurement just this week and gone and in every area of Royal Air Force capability, we are seeing a downgrade as kit is becoming more expensive , is becoming more expensive, which means that the platforms and more importantly the people are being asked always to do more with less. And a big job. Then for our brand new defence secretary, we had him on the show last week. Lots of questions about him. I mean, do you think hes the right man for the job . And furthermore, we pushed him about his use tiktok and obviously furthermore, we pushed him about hi all;e tiktok and obviously furthermore, we pushed him about hi all relatesztok and obviously furthermore, we pushed him about hi all relates tok and obviously furthermore, we pushed him about hi all relates to thisd obviously furthermore, we pushed him about hi all relates to this chinese sly it all relates to this chinese espionage so lots espionage story today. So lots of concerns that app. Of concerns about that app. I know ministry of defence use know the ministry of defence use it hes adamant it themselves as hes adamant that he wont stop using it. Do you support the defence secretary that . Secretary in that . The secretary, so i know the secretary, defence very well. So i know the secretary, defe|mean very well. So i know the secretary, defe|mean he very well. So i know the secretary, defe|mean he was lery well. So i know the secretary, defe|mean he was the well. So i know the secretary, defe|mean he was the transport i mean he was the transport secretary when i was aviation and maritime, so was and maritime, so he was my secretary state. Ive secretary of state. So ive worked very, very closely with him. An extremely capable, him. Hes an extremely capable, very very hard working very diligent, very hard working chinese the issue chinese guy. I think the issue is much use of is not so much about use of a platform or all use of it carries with it a potential hazard. The idea the point thats key is about what checks you have around it. So you wouldnt want it on a device that has access to top security. But if it were on a dedicated device , for example, theres device, for example, theres little threat there provided the rest of phone doesnt have rest of the phone doesnt have access to information you access to information that you would so per would be concerned about. So per se , i dont see it as a concern. Se, i dont see it as a concern. But you wouldnt it on a but you wouldnt want it on a secure device. Yeah. Yeah he said that he said it and he said that he said it was work phone. Was nothing was a work phone. It was nothing to him sort of thing. To do with him sort of thing. But i to say to you, rob, but i want to say to you, rob, i dont know if youre aware of this or not, but channel 4 are running an ex violent documentary called guns documentary called top guns inside the raf. I dont know if youve tuned into it yet. Ive seen a bit of it, yeah. Ive seen a bit of it, yeah. But get very, very good. Very good. Recruiting drive i would have thought for the raf. Very good good luck with good stuff. Good luck with your work, thanks giving work, robert. Thanks for giving us into whats going us an insight into whats going on. Thats robert he is on. Thats Robert Courts. He is the mp for witney, a member of the mp for witney, a member of the Defence Select Committee. Thank you. Thank you. Staying with politics right. Staying with politics now, rishi sunak. The prime now, rishi sunak. The Prime Minister says he confronted his chinese counterpart at the g20 summit in new delhi over alleged spying in westminster. It came after two arrests, as we were just discussing, were made under the official secrets act, including of a parliamentary researcher with links to several senior conservative mps. Senior conservative mps. Well, political commentator for young voices uk is alex petropolis , and he he joins us petropolis, and he he joins us now to talk about this. Alex, a very, very good morning to you. Very, very good morning to you. So spies , what how high strong so spies, what how high strong do you think the threat is. Do you think the threat is. You know, following up from the guest we just had on the threat is always there. But the threats increasing . I think that threats increasing . I think that whats interesting about this eventisit whats interesting about this event is it really puts into focus china and for the longest time, all of our Foreign Affairs and all of our concerns have all been laser focussed on russia and laser focussed on the war in ukraine. And maybe weve sort of gotten a bit lazy and said , gotten a bit lazy and said, well, well forget about china for a little bit, but we have to remember that china is the rising power in the region and that russia is on the way out beyond the fact that it is obviously very important to focus on. So to the extent that were now paying a lot of attention to it and were now having to ask and ask and answer a lot of questions about what is our stance towards china. We may be in a better place than we were a week ago. Were a week ago. And what do you think about our stance towards china . Weve seen this softening under Prime Minister sunak calling a minister sunak calling them a challenge , challenge rather than a threat, and some and thats outraged some conservative mps , many of whom conservative mps, many of whom are sanctioned themselves, like ian duncan smith, who think that we need to treat them, you know, more suspiciously, frankly. More suspiciously, frankly. I think that it really comes down to the timeline because we found out that this person was arrested under espionage charges back in march. And the real question is, how long has rishi sunak known about that and how long has he essentially known that there was this high level of attack on our parliamentary system by china . Parliamentary system by china . And has that informed how hes changed our stance towards china . Because we saw just two weeks ago, James Cleverly the foreign secretary, became the highest Ranking Member of the british cabinet to visit china on a state visit since before the pandemic. So thats clearly not a softening up of stances and when you compare that with these revelations, there are lots of questions to be asked about whether this stance, this system of softening towards china is working and whether were getting results out of it i if you 5mm if you were to learn that the Prime Minister did know back in march about this arrest, and one would assume presumably that he would, given his position, you know , do you think he was wrong know, do you think he was wrong then to send James Cleverly, the foreign secretary there . I mean, he would argue i think the Prime Minister would argue that they are partners. Are Economic Partners. And theres of Growth Potential theres lots of Growth Potential through working with them. And, you know, its a balance, isnt it . Its a balancing act. It . Its a balancing act. You know, theres definitely a balance between wanting to not economically shoot ourself in the foot by cutting off china altogether. But at the end of the day, the line that comes out of china all the time is dont mess with our internal affairs and we wont mess with yours. Thats always the line they pull out whenever anyone in the west tries criticise something tries to criticise something happening turf. But happening in their own turf. But when you compare it with whats happened , that means because you happened, that means because you are entering interfering with our affairs or having our internal affairs or having an opinion on that, theyre basically saying, well, were going going stick going to were going to stick our everywhere in your our nose in everywhere in your society. Society. Yeah , it works both ways. Yeah, it works both ways. Yeah, it works both ways. And importantly , we can have and importantly, we can have economic relations while still being able to take that diplomatic channel and essentially say, look, you said this, youve now done this. This this, youve now done this. This is the line in the sand. If you dont change the way youre acting, there will be repercussions. And its hard to criticise how diplomacy is going because it all happens behind closed doors. But i think one thing to be said is that you know, we left the eu and for better or for worse, that means that our Foreign Policy is now much more on us than it is on our allies. And so when that is the case in action, then its a lot more an action. And so if we just sit back and say were not going to do anything about it, thatis going to do anything about it, that is an in and of itself an active decision and one that we should realise should be critiqued. Critiqued. As a political commentator for young voices uk, thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you. The time, 8 17 oclock. A prisoner has been stabbed at wandsworth. Officers as well as wandsworth. Officers as well as the London Ambulance service were called to the scene and a 24 year old was taken to hospital for a stab wound. The metropolitan police have confirmed his condition is not life threatening. But all of this, of course, comes as Daniel Khalife escaped from wandsworth prison. It all happened within the same week. Former prisoner and founder of uservoice mark johnson joins us now to talk about this. Were trying to get inside. Are the prisons fit for purpose 7 are the prisons fit for purpose . And do you think they are . . And do you think they are . Definitely not. I mean, the you know, we have an inspector at body, different inspectorate bodies, actually in this country. Thats Charlie Taylor for prisons, just in russells for prisons, just in russells for probation. And over there sort of whole tenure and ones before it. And ive always wrote before it. And ive always wrote quite reports of the state of prisons. So quite reports of the state of prisons. So the quite reports of the state of prisons. So the last one quite reports of the state of prisons. So the last one was three quarters of the whole prison estate is poor and inadequate. And, you know , inadequate. And, you know, wandsworth is open in 1851. It was built for 950 prisoners, and its. 170 over capacity. So its. 170 over capacity. So theres 1600 prisoners in there. Half are unemployed. The rest. Half are unemployed. The rest are locked up for 22 hours a day. And even of the employed, about 30 arent available for full duties. So when were full duties. So when were picking up and im really glad that the media is picking up over individual incidents and there was 22,000 assaults in british prisons last year. There was 22,000 assaults in british prisons last year. And british prisons last year. And 1800 of which were prisoner to prisoner. And they go unrecorded. So if you imagine if youve got 22 hours a day behind the doon got 22 hours a day behind the door, so you can imagine whats going on inside that door thats not being recorded. So and when the governments been recording, especially for the last four years, that prison assaults have dropped, we know that they havent because theyre just not being recorded properly. Right and then you have the incident of a. I really, really welcome that. How justice has come back on the table, really around a pubuc on the table, really around a public discussion that really needs to and we should say you speak from experience because you are a former prisoner. Where did you serve time . Mark found just asking you were you spent where you spent time . Where did you serve your time as a prisoner . A prisoner . I we seem to have lost our communication there. Isnt it amazing how rubbish communications , isnt it . Its communications, isnt it . Its like my son said to me yesterday. Oh, dodger , wi fi is yesterday. Oh, dodger, wi fi is really awful in this in the living room. And and, you know, why cant it just work . And all why cant it just work . And all our lives are so hooked up on it. And then when its there, everythings fantastic. And then when it disappears, our lives are all rubbish. How rubbish is your wi fi . Let us know this morning. We are dependent on everything from burglar alarms through to Computer Systems and ties into this this prison story. I mean, lots of people live close to prisons and, you know, are people worried today about how they escapees how safe they are from escapees 7 how safe they are from escapees . Well, let me tell you something. Do you see that wandsworth pfison do you see that wandsworth prison there . My grammar school, malikis college, backed on to the prison. Did it . Yeah. Which looked exactly like wandsworth. What a lovely looking building. When our ball went over the wall and you could hear the prisoners cheer next door. So we were playing in the sports fields. Whatever. When the ball went over the wall, you didnt go round and ask for it back. Put it like that, you know, and actually went it was actually went into it. It was neverin actually went into it. It was never in before. And i went never in it before. And i went into it earlier in the year where they do tours and its all tourism is a victorian sort of prison, but really very, prison, but it really is very, very scary. Mean, you wouldnt very scary. I mean, you wouldnt want as you really want that as a life. You really wouldnt want, would put a primary who Primary School who went to a prison , who in their right mind, prison, who in their right mind, who would put the most dangerous people to next kids . Well, maybe during the troubles that was the safest place to be. I dont know. I dont know. Maybe it was just easy. Maybe a lot of us ended up there anyway. I dont know, really what, that was it. What, but that was it. But apparently its bunk of whats it off britain day whats it bunk off britain day to day this heat to day. Last day of this heat wave. 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While youre away, but well let you earwig on us here. Paul coyte. You mean ill have to do it again now with you. You have to do it again. Do you know one of the things you were saying earlier on at the us open at flushing meadow and, and weve some dress room. Weve got some dress room. Serena sabalenka yeah. Arina sabalenka. Oh, this where we sabalenka. Oh, this is where we left Arina Sabalenka left off with Arina Sabalenka who the to coco gauff who lost the final to coco gauff now theres , should we say, now theres, should we say, dressing room fit of pique. Now we do have it this time. Now, this is what happened in the chamber. Look, there she goes. After shes lost, she puts the plate there for the runners up and there she seems quite calm as her bag, pulls as she goes into her bag, pulls out are you going out a racket. What are you going to with that little practise to do with that little practise down . Im gonna smash it on the floor. Y a mouse on the there was a mouse on the floor insect or something. Floor or an insect or something. No disappointed. No shes disappointed. Look, she smashes it on the floor. Champion her own right. Floor. Well,pion her own right. Floor. Well, she her own right. Floor. Well, she doeser own right. Floor. Well, she does withn right. Floor. Well, she does with thejht. Racket. Losing. But listen, coco gauff had a home crowd. You know, an american winning know, its an american winning the always an the us open. It always has an unfair advantage. Go straight into the bin as well, goes straight well, and it goes straight into the bin. And what was interesting is that racket gets the that so the poor racket gets the blame. Always the way its blame. Yeah. Always the way its always racket. Judy always the poor racket. Judy murray, spoken murray, though, is now spoken up. Tweeted. That up. Shes tweeted. She said that this footage never have this footage should never have been public. Yes. Private been made public. Yes. A private moment in an empty training room after the disappointment of losing grand slam final. Now losing a grand slam final. Now maybe im a little cynical about the whole situation, but is he . You watch break point, didnt you . Well, break point. Have the access. But thats obviously all pre agreed in kind of way pre agreed in the kind of way were to seeing with the were used to seeing with the duke sussex with duke and duchess of sussex with their stuff they their netflix stuff that they have cameras and have these cameras set up and its brilliant. You have this big sign apparently, as they walk into open saying walk out into the us open saying pressure is a privilege you pressure is a privilege and you see touching it. See the players touching it. Should remember we or we should remember we should that. Privilege. But you know, you have all this privileged behind the scenes makes it scenes footage which makes it magical. But i think i agree with judy murray. These cameras, where end . Where does it end . Tell you, because let me tell you, because whats actually happened that whats actually happened is that firstly, up for firstly, she has signed up for the series of break point , the new series of break point, which behind the scenes. Which is behind the scenes. So theres now we theres one thing now what we dont see because theres more footage of that is footage of that which is slightly wider. And then just to slightly wider. And then just to the right hand side , theres a the right hand side, theres a guy with a big microphone. No theres a nothing. Acted for the camera. Yes, i do. The first time i saw it and i just thought, oh, poor thing. And people are going, well, its that going, well, its great that shes to it all in. Shes managed to keep it all in. And then shes waited until shes knew exactly shes got it. She knew exactly what was doing, so it wasnt what she was doing, so it wasnt a matter of poor thing and how i mean, lets face it, in this day and age or any time, are they going to allow a camera thats run it again, just as were talking about all this, put it put it exactly. You cant actually see it, but they are. I promise you to the right hand side. But it just shows you can never really believe what you see or the context of things unless with the three us apart. You can never you can never trust it. So i think were sending that seemed like a private moment. Theyre off to the she knows the right hand side. She knows the right hand side. She knows the cameras are there, so theres filming and theres one filming there and theres one filming there and there a cctv camera there are theres a cctv camera or something. It. Look at it. Look at it. Perfect quality. Perfect quality. That cctv camera. That is a cctv camera. That is a cctv camera. But there is also a crew. Sorry. At the same time. Yes, she knew. So you will that the so you will see that in the next well, there you go. Next series. Well, there you go. Of break point. You see, i dont want to see this in literally goes in a bin. Does it . Yeah does it . Yeah you know what if you were emptying the bins and that was yourjob emptying the bins and that was your job worth pretty penny, yourjob worth a pretty penny, id over ebay, wouldnt id be all over ebay, wouldnt you . Actually get, you know, and itd like, well screw the itd be like, well screw the job. Put this on, job. Im going to put this on, make money from probably make more money from probably selling shouldnt selling this racket. Shouldnt ive got mention the rugby ive got to mention the rugby world because yeah, look, world cup because yeah, look, its ireland narrowly got through ireland narrowly got through against romania . Did against was it romania . They did narrowly yeah i mean narrowly 82 eight so yeah i mean scraped away. Im going say amy well all im going to say amy is romania scored eight points against whats going on there . Why why anybody else why why is anybody else taking mean, ireland taking part . I mean, ireland are obviously tournament. Well, the welsh were looking good yesterday. Well, the welsh were looking goowell,terday. Well, the welsh were looking goowell, itsay. Well, the welsh were looking goowell, its all very with well, its all very well with you welsh new with the you with the welsh new with the irish. After week ago irish. But after a week ago everybodys thinking england arent going do anything now. Arent to going do anything now. England the england are going to win the world like a fantastic world cup. Its like a fantastic result argentina. Result against argentina. Are too much kicking there are too much kicking from england. Know, but it was. I know, but it was. I know, but it was. What do mean . What do you mean . What do you mean . Mean . Kicking what do you mean . Kicking at each kicking the ball . Each other or kicking the ball . In they werent going as in they werent going scored. It was entirely a win through kicking the board. Kicking on the board. But never father god love kicking on the board. Byou never father god love kicking on the board. Byou know, father god love kicking on the board. Byou know, he|er god love kicking on the board. Byou know, he would love kicking on the board. Byou know, he would always him, you know, he would always ring every england game ring us after every england game to give analysis. Ring us after every england game to and analysis. Ring us after every england game to and he analysis. Ring us after every england game to and he hated. Is. Ring us after every england game to and he hated the too much and he hated the too much kicking coming into the game and its crept points are points its crept in points are points i gosh if you can get them i think gosh if you can get them i think gosh if you can get them i you know its not good i mean you know its not good rugby though i dont rugby though listen i dont agree agree im with agree i agree im with you. I want win the game. I want to win the game. I want to win the game. Gaelic football is played like that. W american rules. American rules. Footballs like that. Footballs played like that. Footballs played like that. To win game. And i want to win the game. And if manages that way, then if it manages that way, then thats its going. Its thats the way its going. Its the group of death. Although scotland were the only home nafion scotland were the only home nation actually lost, but nation that actually lost, but it against the champion it was against the champion south so see, id be south africa. So see, id be saying that business, saying that kicking business, id right, are you id be saying right, are you going me as i run down going to hurt me as i run down this wing and ran me off like a true footballer . Yeah. I just drop yeah. Or will i just drop kick instead . Thats why i say give me plenty of room and ill drop kick here. Em em keep it nice and easy. Mo farah now, mo, does he play rugby . No. Know rugby . No. You know what . Fast on the wing. Hed be fast on the wing. Hed be fast on the wing. I think hed be knocked down pretty quickly. He could probably then he would probably blow and then he would probably blow and then he would probably over. But. He probably go over. But. But he would wing. Would be fast on the wing. Youre but mo farah has youre right. But mo farah has finally called time. Hes his last in there. Its last race is run in there. Its not even a proper mo, but hes doing there, is it . But it was in the great north yesterday in the great north run yesterday came age 44 olympic came fourth. So age 44 olympic gold medals is rio 2016. London 2012. Course, got the big sleeve. I thought that was you know what tennis players that what tennis players do that i cant like two sleeves hes cant work like two sleeves hes got a green one and then is it in blood . In the blood . Is it, you know, Something Like lot of track like a its a lot of track athletes that its just those its just the sleeve i cant really why if youre really understand why if youre going sleeve, wear going to wear the sleeve, wear a full i wondered was full shirt. I wondered if it was blood pumping something. Blood pumping or something. But anyway, hes hes retired. Someone at home will know. Someone at home will know. I dont know whether it means hes retired hes still hes retired forever. Hes still to going but from to going run, but from competition. More got competition. One more ive got for germany, england. For you, germany, v england. Scotland of scotland is tomorrow. And one of our yes. One our soccer. Great. Yes. One of our soccer. Great. Yes. One of our great foes, course, our great foes, of course, germany their manager, hansi germany a their manager, hansi flick. I mean they lost flick. A5141. I mean they lost against japan. His real name hand against japan. His real name hansi flick. No, its not hair flick. Right. Well, i flick. All right. Well, i suppose it is. Flick is flick. Flick is flick. Hansi flick gone. Hansi flick is now gone. Hand hansi flick is now gone. Hansi flick. Flick is hansi flick. Hansi flick is gone. And one of their gone. And also one of their great managers, the great great managers, one of the great world, greatest german world, the greatest german player time would be player of all time would be Franz Beckenbauers birthday today. Im going to ask you today. So im going to ask you how there he is holding the world cup in 74. There is with the late great bobby moore. Hes 73. Hes 73. 73. Right. Come on. Is he this is your one now. Its 73. Did you have any beckenbauer super boots . I always wanted a pair of those. Did you have the adidas, beckenbauer . Adidas, beckenbauer . They call him the general 69 der kaiser das. Kaiser . Oh, a little bit higher. 82. 82. A little slightly lower, 76. A little slightly lower, 76. We could go on for a while. We could go on for a while. I feel like Bruce Forsyth 78 is the answer. Is der kaiser. Is der kaiser. Der kaiser der kaiser is 78 today. The greatest german player of all time. So maybe a manager for italian 90. Maybe its manager for italian 90. Maybe wsfime manager for italian 90. Maybe its time for der kaiser to go back and look after things at germany. I wonder would that make bobby moore if he had have lived to see a picture of him there of similar sort of age . To see a picture of him there of simyeah, rt of age . To see a picture of him there of simyeah, yeah,age . To see a picture of him there of simyeah, yeah, yeah. Ill be up yeah, yeah, yeah. Ill be up there as well. I mean, died far, far too young 30 years ago now. But the great. Was cancer, but the great. It was cancer, wasnt yeah. Yeah testicular wasnt it. Yeah. Yeah testicular cancen wasnt it. Yeah. Yeah testicular cancer. Just one of the cancer. But just one of the greats who never got the greats who also never got the recognition deserved because recognition he deserved because he lived. Have he had. He lived. Would have been moore would been sir bobby moore would be seen one ultimate seen as one of the ultimate greats. But it was at a time greats. But it was at a time when english football really didnt enough attention to didnt pay enough attention to the legends, whereas now you look at geoff hurst, sir geoff hurst, bobby charlton, and hurst, sir bobby charlton, and whereas , bobby moore never lived whereas, bobby moore never lived to all that, which is a very to see all that, which is a very sad thing, the greatest sad thing, although the greatest player. Paul. Sad thing, although the greatest pla thank paul. Sad thing, although the greatest pla thank very paul. Pleasure thank you very much. Pleasure thank you very much. Pleasure going through the were going through the papers in just a moment and we will be talking about the demise of britain. Our british high of our britain. Our british high streets are they turning into looting grounds for shoplifters . Do we need a Royal Commission review into them to try and revive our town centres . Let us know your thoughts. Thats up next. Are watching gb news next. You are watching gb news britains news channel and Claire Pearsall. And Christopher Biggins. Theyve got the newspapers this morning and various other things. Were not supposed to say newspapers. Were supposed to headline making headline making thing making every thing is just generally the news and things generally in the news and things that are that you want to watch on television or not or whatever. Anyway, minis i think the mini is a design icon. I love the mini. I think its absolutely. And do you know what isabel, when you think of an original mini in the 50s or 60s, whatever, so tiny, so , so tiny whatever, so tiny, so, so tiny and frail and fragile without bumpers or whatever. And these, bumpers or whatever. And these, these new these new generation ones. Claire you want to talk about now because bmw is to manufacture this next generation of electric minis and there was a mini factory in oxford, but this is guaranteeing the future of a lot of workers there. It certainly is. And my first car was a mini and it was a y reg when it was at the other end of the number plates. It was a very old tiny mini, brilliant car, absolutely adored it. Did it leak . Did it flood . Did it leak . Did it flood . Did it leak . Did it flood . Yes, it did. If you went through a puddle that was a bit too deep, it stopped. Yes you learnt very quickly to drive with some wd 40 and get the spark plugs and it had a spark plugs dry and it had a manual choke. Indeed. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Cold morning. Cold morning. And you could flood the engine very easily. Absolutely. And i but absolutely. And i did. But i learned an awful lot about driving. You get driving. Yeah. And you could get it but it was a bit it to 50, but it was a bit shaky. Okay. So i had a mini van. So i had a mini van. Ooh, is that like a countryman . Yeah, exactly. And i remember i was coming back from derby where i was doing rep to salisbury and i travelled through the night and i was very tired and i overturned it and i was upside down and ask you, are you overturned it . What . How did you overturn. What . How did you overturn. What . How did you overturn. I was just going round and round about too fast and i went over and i remember waking up or not waking up. I remember feeling a Burning Sensation and what happened was the battery for the mini was behind the drivers seat, and it all was dripping out acid. The acid come out. So have you ever woken up during the middle of the night and had acid reflux . Oh, yeah. Thats horrible. Oh, yeah. Thats horrible. You might as well drink the battery acid. Yeah. As well. Its most awful. Thing is this is this a good thing . I mean were seeing obviously a lot of Government Investment into this. We saw last week a huge announcement in ellesmere were of Ellesmere Port. Were kind of getting that getting the impression that post brexit trading arrangements arent inhibiting our potential and ability to manufacture cars here in the uk. A good thing worth the money from the taxpayer. Do you know what i think it is . Im really pleased that the government has invested and ed, as we were talking about previously, its not a huge amount of money when youre talking about government spending, bmw the spending, but it gives bmw the understanding that the government is behind them. The jobs that it will create and manufacture in the United Kingdom needs to be brought back up to where it was. So im really pleased weve gone really pleased that weve gone ahead. Dont want to see ahead. What i dont want to see is we lag behind on infrastructure because its all very to electric cars very well to have electric cars out there. But if you have nowhere charge them, then nowhere to charge them, then thats pretty but i do thats pretty useless. But i do think this is good and were seeing a lot of investment, especially in Jaguar Land Rover as well in cornwall a as well in cornwall with a battery plant. That is more battery plant. So that is more up coming its going to up and coming and its going to create and help grow the economy. And there is history. Theres a lineage of building minis in oxford as well. I mean, compared oxford as well. I mean, compared to when the thatcher government set up the delorean plant in Northern Ireland, it wasnt the thatcher government actually. She closed it wherever it was before thatcher. Who was it before thatcher. Who was it before thatcher . It was brown. No, it was. Whats his name . Callaghan callahan. Callahan . Yeah callahan . Yeah yeah. And so. So basically we yeah. And so. So basically we didnt have an infrastructure or a lineage of, of building cars anywhere in Northern Ireland, though we, we eventually did it very well. But there were a lot of teething problems where theres this workforce knows what theyre doing, they do. Its a proud and its a very proud tradition that they have that tradition that they have at that plant. Its going to be plant. And its going to be increased and also down the road increased and also down the road in swindon, youre going to see some boost in Battery Technology and stuff coming along there. And think it is really important. I want to get a battery can and the one i do want to get is the delorean. I want to get the delorean. I want to get somebody. To get somebody somebody. I want to get somebody to produce delorean with to say, produce a delorean with a battery. A battery. Right . Right . And itll literally will be back to the future, to the future Eamonn Holmes. Future with Eamonn Holmes. It will probably take. And it will probably take. And it will probably take. Take you 100ft before you charge. Charge. The trouble is, no, the trouble is, i couldnt get in and of it. Couldnt get in and out of it. And i mean the gullwing doors. They go. Its that they go. Its that they go. Its that they go. I dont know if i could but i dont know if i could get if i could get down to might help you out. Lift you lift me up. Yeah lift you lift me up. Yeah lets talk about prince harry, shall he was in a harry, shall we . He was in a penalty shoot out, would you believe. He lose to . Believe. Who did he lose to . Begins a german. A 63 year old german. Oh, no. A 63 year old german. Oh, no. A 63 year old german. But i tell you what im yeah, but i tell you what im thrilled about is im a great fan of harrys, and i think its wonderful that hes gone there. I mean, its so sad that he had a day here and he didnt see his brother or his father and especially his father, which was a terrible shame. I think there should now we must start getting back together again, surely. I mean , we all have rows with our mean, we all have rows with our families and everything happens. But, its i think hes but, you know, its i think hes doing hes been received so wonderfully once again over there because this is the Invictus Games are his and he is brilliant at it. Invictus games are his and he is brilliant at it. Hes just wonderful. Well he knows what hes talking about. Hes very credible with it. He does it very well. And shes not there and shes not there yet, which helps anyway, think. I think hes doing a wonderful job. And im a great fan of his time to heal the wounds. Yes, i think so. Claire, im a big coffee fan. I dont know about you, but concerned , about you, but concerned, though, what coffee might say about me. What are they saying in the times, too, about this . This is the usual sort of what it signifies about your social standing in life and theyve gone through a sort of light hearted list and apparently , if you are a double apparently, if you are a double espresso drinker , you are well espresso drinker, you are well read and well travelled and White Americano straight talker and if you like , mocha sort of and if you like, mocha sort of chocolate type coffee, then youre sexier than the average. Youre sexier than the average. Oh my. I mean it doesnt say do you like a mocha . I flick between a mocha very occasionally when im hungry and i feel like i need some sugar. Yeah, exactly. And then i go and have a flat white. So i think i am quite straight too. Ive heard that about you. Have you . Yes have you . Yes a flat white. A flat white. Lets move on. Ive never drank a cup of coffee in my life. Well, i feel sorry for you if you dont one. Oh, i love a coffee. Youre missing out. You really, really are. And what about a coffee cake . I never had coffee cake. I love a coffee cake. I love coffee cake. Great but this. This whole. What this rubbish they print. This. This whole. What this rubbish they print. But this. This whole. What this rubbish they print. But people rubbish they print. But people drinking coffee, its ridiculous. But it goes through everything from painted nails. Dog breeds, footwear , cars. And dog breeds, footwear, cars. And of course, its just somebodys opinion. Yeah, of course it is. Where you stand in society and theres a classic bit about trousers. And of course it has to mention sort of variation on red trousers. Man owner of dogs, red trousers. Man owner of dogs, tory voter we always have to have these little comparisons, cliches. Did you say nipples, by the way . Way . No, you didnt say. I think she said little. Oh, sorry. She said little. Oh, sorry. Maybe it was little nipples, but it cant bring you anywhere. Big nipples. Big nipples. Its. Its. Its. Do you have little nipples or very big nipples . Very big nipples . Theyre all right. Are they . Theyre all right. Are they . How are yours . Are you fine, how are yours . Are you fine, thank you. Dog do you remember this pub in the midlands that this pub in the midlands that this wonky, this crooked pub that was mysteriously set on fire and then knocked down and whatever it is weve got a report on this now because that was a month ago and its been over a month since this arson attack occurred on what was called the crooked house pub. Okay. Then it was demolished okay. Then it was demolished and local people have been campaigning and protesting that they want the pub rebuilt, crooked , crooked, built by brick crooked, crooked, built by brick by brick. And one mans taking the protection of the site into his own hands and has started whats now called camp wonky. And our now called camp wonky. And our West Midlands reporter jack carson went to find out more when a much loved Black Country pub went up in flames and was later unlawfully demolished , few later unlawfully demolished, few could have predicted the size and strength of the campaign to rebuild it. Rebuild it. A month on from the arson attack on the crooked house pub, some campaigners are taking the protection site into protection of the site into their hands. Rob brown their own hands. Rob brown visited the pub when he was a child and has created camp wonky to keep an eye on the site at all times. He says hes doing it to keep every chance of rebuilding the crooked house alive. We want our pub built back for everyone to enjoy for years and kids to learn the history. History. I mean the amount of walls this has gone through and prohibition times, all that, all the kids need to learn this proper Black Country history , proper Black Country history, right . To me, its jumping all you want to do. I dont care what anybody else thinks. My what anybody else thinks. My opinion is our camp here and make a point. Make a stand. The story of the crooked house has had an International Reach and the attention doesnt show any sign of slowing down. People here are firm in their support for getting the crooked house rebuilt and 25,000 of its bncks house rebuilt and 25,000 of its bricks are now stacked and secured in the containers behind me. But elsewhere, attention is turning to legislation to help prevent things like this from happening again. Conservative mp for dudley north marco longhi is leading the voice for change in parliament. Ive had people writing to me and say, marco, oh, but its just not about pubs. Theres about all sorts of heritage building and im going, i agree, i agree, i agree. But the wider i make this umbrella, the bigger i make this tent as laudable a cause as it is, the more possibilities for the law to become too just big to deal with in one go. Lets get some successes. Lets make the crooked house clause or the crooked house law. The first stepping stone, and then expand upon that. So its going to be about heritage pubs and im to going be just looking at 1 or 2 very specific angles and then build on that in the future. The Police Investigation to find those responsible for setting the crooked house alight is still ongoing as the weeks go by. Support for rebuilding this piece of Black Country heritage gets stronger and stronger. Jack carson gb news himley. Carson gb news himley. Well, good luck to the crooked pub. Im not sure how it ever ended up crooked in the first place, but its now collapsed and not well collapsed with the help of a bulldozer or two. Will they get their way two. And will they get their way with this . But i was wondering, begins how anybody has time to sit in a pub crooked or not. And the way we use pubs now is differently i think is associated with food, not pubs. Yeah, were just talking about that, isabella. I never to a pub. I but i never go to a pub. I mean the only pubs i go to is if i go to the country and stay with friends. Go to with some friends. Well go to the for lunch. Youre right, the pub for lunch. Youre right, its going eat, you know, food. Youre very popular pub fan. Youre very popular pub fan. Clare again , its a food clare again, its a food thing and ive got a couple of lovely local pubs that that do food, but its not something thatis food, but its not something that is a regular occurrence. Its a bit of a treat to go and eat out at the moment and it is nice if they have a garden, especially when the weathers been its cheaper too to especially when the weathers bee in its cheaper too to especially when the weathers bee in pub. Cheaper too to eat in the pub. But. But there are people, there people who, know, there are people who, you know, 2 00 monday afternoon or 2 00 on a monday afternoon or whatever, will there. Whatever, it will be there. Theyll sitting and theyll be sitting there and theyll the time. And its theyll pass the time. And its a social thing you a great social thing for, you know, thats you meet people know, thats how you meet people and people talk to people and whatever, whatever for christmas, get together or a birthday or something. Get together, meet or mums get together, mums night out. Its known. Mums night out. Its been known. Yeah, right, yeah, but youre right, i wouldnt go regularly of an evening, which is a shame really, dont use really, because if we dont use them, lose them. Them, we lose them. Lets about the middle lets talk about the middle aged love island front page. Whats the headline . Isabel . What do we put our what do they why do we put our mums middle aged love island . Mums on middle aged love island . Why do they their mums on why do they put their mums on middle aged love island . I mean, i think youll tell us. I dont think youll tell us. Well, tell im quite well, ill tell you, im quite interesting when i was interesting story. When i was eight, 18 years, 18. 5 years old, i went to drama school and i was only child. And before i left to go to drama school in bristol, my mother turned around to me and said, oh, by the way, she said, christopher. She said, my pregnant. And i went, what . I pregnant. And i went, what . I was appalled that my mother was pregnant. The fact they were still doing it. How old was your mum then . How old was your mum then . 42. Oh, wow. 42. Oh, wow. 42. Oh, wow. My mum was 48. My mum was 48. Right. Right. 48. 48. But she said i wouldnt tell anybody at school. I was 16 at the time and i was so embarrassed. I was devastated, devastated. Devastated, devastated. And it was robin elliss fault. Do you remember robin ellis baldock yeah, because he had a party at the repertory company, which i was a part of in salisbury , and he invited in salisbury, and he invited them to a party and they went home got bit squiffy. Home and got a bit squiffy. Yeah. Did, did the 42 is yeah. And did, did the 42 is young begin. No. Oh no. Oh no. I was so embarrassed and embarrassed. Yes. Yes. Do you know who isabel was conceived . Oh, it. Oh, stop it. Oh, stop it. Embarrassed. Embarrassed. Embarrassed. Embarrassed. Well, let me tell you the story. Story. Well, her father told me this. We actually edited that out of my fathers wedding speech. And he told everybody in detail all about it. Moving swiftly on. Anyway, we put our mum on middle aged love island. I know who would do such a thing. I mean, i they. What do they think of next . Theyve got no bright idea. These Television People you listening . People are you listening . I think its a good idea. I think its a good idea. Why do you just have to be the i agree you. The young . I agree with you. I mean, are the worst. Mean, itv are the worst. I mean, its like if its i mean, if its like if its not ant and dec its not not ant and dec or its not simon cowell. Yeah. Or its not bradley on chase. Bradley walsh on the chase. I theyve got no other i know. Theyve got no other idea, no other ideas whatsoever. Do we not think that perhaps behind this really behind all of this is really just the cynical 20 something looking for their own career . Possibly, yes. Possibly, yes. Yes, youre right. Youre right. Maybe youre right. Yes, youre right. Youre rigiit maybe youre right. Yes, youre right. Youre rigiit coulde youre right. Yes, youre right. Youre rigiit could be ure right. Yes, youre right. Youre rigiit could be a re right. Yes, youre right. Youre rigiit could be a littleiht. Yes, youre right. Youre rigiit could be a little bit. It could be a little bit. It could be a little bit. Okay. And the weathers all okay. And the weathers all right. Lets have a look at a brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayres and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So it was a hot weekend, but what does it look like as we go into the new week . Well there is plenty of brightness across much england and wales to much of england and wales to start this morning with any mist, and low cloud lifting mist, fog and low cloud lifting and but we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing an increase cloud and an increase in cloud and outbreaks rain sinking south outbreaks of rain sinking south eastwards throughout this morning. We might also see the odd, heavier shower and thunderstorm developing as we go into this afternoon. Still into this afternoon. Still feeling pleasant in any sunny spells , but temperatures spells, but those temperatures a fair down on what we saw at fair bit down on what we saw at the weekend with highs of 27 in the weekend with highs of 27 in the southeast. Now, as we go into this evening, this cloud and rain continue to make and rain will continue to make its way south eastwards , its way south eastwards, becoming heavy in places, but also moving as it goes into also slow moving as it goes into england and wales, clearing skies there across scotland, Northern Ireland and later on across Northern England. So a chilly night to come here. Those still humid and remaining warm further south. So as we go into the start of tuesday, a fairly foggy, humid and murky start to the day for much of england and wales with outbreaks of rain spreading southeast throughout the day, plenty of sunshine, though, for scotland. Northern ireland and Northern England , ireland and Northern England, but starting to feel a fair bit cooler here with those winds coming northerly coming from a northerly direction clinging on direction still just clinging on to some of that warmth there across the south east with highs still getting into the low to mid 20s. Mid 20s. A brighter outlook with boxt solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news at that time solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news at that time is solar. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news at that time is fast on. Gb news at that time is fast approaching 9 00. We have good morning. Its 9 00 on monday, the 11th of september. Youre watching breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster. Heres what weve been covering on breakfast so far this morning. 22 years on from the attack that changed the world. As we look back on september the 11th, gb news learned that the gb news has learned that the Terror Threat in the uk is still concerning. Concerning. Bmw plans to build its next generation electric mini at its oxford plant after securing £75 million of government funding. Million of government funding. An inmate stabbed at wandsworth prison just days after the terror suspect Daniel Khalife escaped. Khalife escaped. And as the Prime Minister returns from the g20 summit in india, more details come out about the westminster staff allegedly spying for china. And allegedly spying for china. And well be bringing you the latest weather updates with rachel ayers. Ayers. After a very warm to hot weekend, what can we expect from the weather as we go into the new week . Join me later for a full forecast with all the details. Details. Now, it is our top story this morning. Weve been covering it throughout the last few hours. Senior Security Experts have told gb news that large organised terror groups like al qaeda and isis could re emerge as significant threats to the uk. Well, we can speak to the uk. Well, we can speak now to the shadow minister for security, dan jarvis. A very good morning to you. And i want to start by asking you about our top story this morning on this 22nd anniversary of september the 11th. And how concerned are you about threat of these you about the threat of these big organisations . Big terrorist organisations . Well, good morning. I think this is a very concerning report. It is nine over 11 today. It is a important reminder of the terrible events back in 2001. And i think your report is a timely reminder that whilst the focus recently , for whilst the focus recently, for understandable reasons, has been on activity from state actors here in this country, and there were some very serious questions to be answered about that. We should not lose sight of the fact that terrorist organisations like al qaeda, like isis are havent gone away and they are working to plan and prepare to do the kind of attacks potentially that they may have done previously. So may have done previously. So thatis may have done previously. So that is something that we need to keep a very close eye on and work closely with our allies and partners around the to world make sure that they have neither the capacity or the capability to carry out terrorist activities. Activities. I want to ask you about some breaking news were hearing in the last few moments about the government rescue deal for wilco. We understand it has failed and there are huge job loss fears as a result. Your reaction to that developing story. Please as well. Im obviously concerned and saddened to hear that this is a big story, which will impact on workers right around the country, including my own constituency in barnsley. I constituency in barnsley. I think the government needs to do everything that it possibly can to try and support a deal. So that those jobs can be saved. Wilco is a well known and well loved high street retailer. It loved high street retailer. It employs a lot of people and clearly there will be huge concern amongst their employees. So it is very concerning to hear that this deal hasnt gone forward. And i hope the forward. And i hope the government will look at what can be done to salvage any opportunities to in order to make sure that those people dont lose their jobs. A busy week ahead for your boss, sir keir starmer, but he still managed to to do still managed to find time to do a pretty extensive live interview the sunday times interview with the sunday times yesterday which line came yesterday in which the line came out saying, i only i can bring order to the border. Pretty audacious claim , isnt it, for audacious claim, isnt it, for someone who. Well, hes made his career as a lefty lawyer , as is career as a lefty lawyer, as is so often described and well, hes opposed to the rwanda scheme. And of course, labour, scheme. And of course, labour, famous for its internationalist outlook on life. How can we trust labour on trying to grapple the issue of the small boats . Well let me be clear. Boats . Well let me be clear. This is something that we take very seriously indeed. Take very seriously indeed. Yvette cooper keir starmer , Yvette Cooper keir starmer, myself and our whole team are working hard to look at what more can be done to defeat beat the vile network of smugglers that enable people to get on boats and cross the channel youll remember, of course, that this is one of the Prime Ministers five pledges that he made to stop the boats. Hes not been successful in terms of doing that. So thats why keir starmer will be travelling to the hague on wednesday. He will the hague on wednesday. He will be having conversations with interpol to look at what we can do to smash that vile network of people traffickers. I think there is much more that the government should be doing and we are looking constructively to work with partners such as interpol to make sure that the networks of organised serious smuggling trafficking operations are crushed to prevent people from being trafficked in the way that they are at the moment. Yeah, but do you think the voters will buy it . I think that there is huge concern about the issue of illegal immigration. An i think very few people that ive spoken to have any real faith or trust that the government have got a plan to address this significant challenge. I think we all agree its completely unacceptable that should be seeking that anybody should be seeking to cross the channel in a boat. The issue is what you do about it. The government have said that theyre going to stop it. They stopped weve they havent stopped it. Weve said set up a new said that well set up a new cell within the national organised agency to look organised crime agency to look at what more can be done to disrupt defeat ultimately to smash these vile networks that are profiting as a result of human misery. Keir starmer rightly will be in the hague talking to interpol about this this week and i think that demonstrates the credibility that he has on this issue. Okay. Listen, the tuc Congress Conference is getting underway today and we understand that the boss of the tuc, of course , big backers of the course, big backers of the labour party is reporting the government, the United Nations watchdog over the anti strike legislation. Do you support that . Well, the 7 well, the anti strike legislation was deeply flawed. Thats why we opposed it in government. And Angela Rayner will be speaking at the tuc forum. Its a really it went through parliament of trade unions from right around from right around the country and she will outline our the detail of our plan a working plan which the next Labour Government would introduce. Weve said that we will repeal this legislation within the first 100 days of the next Labour Government and Angela Rayner will lay out the details of our proposals. Details of our proposals. Mean just explain to me but i mean just explain to me which going through which bit of going through parliament undemocratic. Parliament is undemocratic. Well, the point i was making is that we have never supported these proposals. We think that they were deeply flawed. Theyre not supported by a very significant number of employers around the country. I think the transport secretary, the education secretary conceded at one stage that these were not effective proposals that were being brought forward. The tuc provides a good forum to have a meaningful conversation with the trade unions about how we can work collaboratively together to invest in our workforce and make sure that we are best placed to achieve economic success. And Angela Rayner will talk through some of the detail of what a future Labour Government would do to enable that. Shadow security minister dan jarvis, thanks for your time this. Thank you. This morning. Thank you. Daniel khalife has been charged with escaping custody after four days on the run. The 21 year old terror suspect had strapped himself underneath a food delivery van to escape from wandsworth prison last wednesday. Weve also received pictures in the last half hour of kalief being transported to westminster magistrates ahead of his appearance before for the judge today. Appearance before for the judge today. Lets go to our home and today. Lets go to our home and security editor mark white on this one. Well whats ahead for him . Mark well, it will be usually be as it is in these forests, magistrates, courts appearances, probably a brief appearance to be remanded back into custody for his First Crown Court appearance whenever that will be. But youre right, he arrived within the last 20 minutes or so here to westminster magistrates court. Armed police van with court. Armed police van with following security vehicles as well. Not a surprise , i think, well. Not a surprise, i think, given the high profile nature of this individual and the crime hes been charged with escaping from lawful custody. He was detained on saturday morning just before 11 am, plainclothes officers on a canal towpath in northolt in west london knocked him from his bicycle and arrested him. That was the end of several days of a nationwide manhunt as his 21 year old had escaped from wandsworth prison early on wednesday morning. It early on wednesday morning. It was just before 8 am. On that wednesday morning that the prison authorities known noticed that kalief was missing and raised the alarm. And then, of course , in the subsequent days, course, in the subsequent days, we saw very significant search activity by dozens of Police Officers , helicopters scouring officers, helicopters scouring the massive 2500 acre Richmond Park in south west london. There were other sightings in wandsworth in chiswick on saturday morning as this whole incident came to a dramatic conclusion. Seven members of the pubuc conclusion. Seven members of the public reported seeing him changed clothing. By that time, changed clothing. By that time, not wearing the chefs outfit that he was wearing because he had worked in a kitchens at wandsworth prison, the White T Shirt and the red and white checked trousers instead , and checked trousers instead, and wearing dark clothing and a black baseball cap. But there were multiple sightings and apparently he made his way to northolt to that canal path where he was arrested by those plainclothes officers who spotted a man answering his description. So, as i say, he is description. So, as i say, he is now in the court behind me. Westminster magistrates court, for that first appearance before being remanded back into custody. And i think one final note to mention here, he was due to stand trial on a number of terrorism and official secrets act spying charges in november. Im sure that his defence team will now be asking for that trial date to be knocked on a bit, given just how soon after his recapture for that is. They will argue, im sure , that he is will argue, im sure, that he is unlikely to get a fair trial with everybody still aware of this story. So fresh in their minds. Mark i have to ask you about sort of Bigger Picture stuff and the situation at the prison from which he escaped. We obviously understand yesterday stabbing yesterday there was a stabbing incident also from incident. We also learned from the from the government over the weekend that a number of inmates had to be moved as well. I mean, is it your reading of this that there is a crisis in our Prison Service . Service . Listen, there has been a crisis in the Prison Service for as long as ive been in home affairs journalism. And the fact is, most people dont talk about it or dont really care. You know, prisoners are locked up. And as far as most of the public are concerned, theyre out of sight. It only ever comes to a head when there is a Major Incident such as a prison escape and then, of course, people are understandably concerned. But we will get now, because this is uppermost in everybodys minds , uppermost in everybodys minds, lots of reports, i can guarantee it in the coming days of serious assaults, stabbings and other incidents in prison. Just because it is fresh in the memories for everyone. But i can tell you that last year alone , tell you that last year alone, there were 2225 serious assaults in including stabbings in prisons in england and wales. It is sad to see an everyday occurrence. Occurrence. Mark, thanks very much. Thank you very much indeed. And Andrew Pierce is here with britains newsroom at 9 30. Im just wondering , that whole prison wondering, that whole prison thing mark was saying, theres always been a crisis in in prisons. And, you know, i, i prisons. And, you know, i, i think the public dont mind their money being spent on prisons or Prison Guards or the Police Service or whatever it happens to be, anything that keeps them safe. But politicians think differently. Thats why they dont build prisons, because it costs money and they certainly are not manning them correctly. Enough correctly. Theres not enough prisons , and got a record prisons, and weve got a Record Number prisoners in prison number of prisoners in prison and this guy was on the run and that this guy was on the run should have been in a maximum security prison, which where security prison, which is where he is now. He was in initially. They he was in it initially. They took him out. Why . Madness and theres austerity and im theres been austerity and im afraid its affected the Prison Service morale in prisons is appalling. You cant keep the appalling. You cant keep the staff are experiencing you staff who are experiencing you need there to failing. Grayling responsible for a lot that, im afraid. Yeah hes got hes got a lot to answer for big day to day of course, because i suspect later today commons i would be today in the commons i would be amazed if an mp doesnt name the so called spy chinese spy operating in the heart of operating right in the heart of the Parliamentary Network whos got very senior got links to some very senior conservative a spy guy in conservative mps. A spy guy in our midst , the level, do you our midst, the level, do you think , though, you an elected think, though, you an elected representative or. Think, though, you an elected representative on well, he we understand he was working for two very senior conservative mps. He wouldnt be any point working for labour because you want people whove got access to the government, mps who are very sceptical very critical sceptical and very critical and hawkish his brief hawkish about china. His brief presumably was to try and persuade to be less bellicose. How have we found out that he existed . Have missed this. It broke in the in one of the sunday papers. Well, i think i think there are lots of questions around that. You know, this happened in march. The arrest of this person. Have been charged . Person. Have they been charged . Bail, no. When theyre on bail, when did the Prime Minister know and it change his Foreign Policy . Because, course, two because, of course, just two weeks he sent his foreign weeks ago, he sent his foreign secretary off china, which secretary me off to china, which is time weve seen is the first time weve seen this softening of the position. And tom tugendhat, who and also tom tugendhat, who is who was a front is a minister who was a front runner the new defence runner to be the new defence secretary. When ben wallace secretary. Ben, when ben wallace stood down, didnt the job, stood down, didnt get the job, it to grant shapps. Who it went to grant shapps. Who knows defence. Knows nothing about defence. Toucan was linked to this toucan heart was linked to this alleged spy in china through no fault of his own because he would have employed him because he thought he was an expert on the subject. So maybe. The subject. Right. So maybe. Maybe tugendhat maybe thats why tugendhat didnt the didnt get the job, because the Prime Minister have known Prime Minister would have known about of this person about the arrest of this person in march. So its a very murky story with lots more to unravel. And that will be unravelling at half past nine. Well, andrew with bev turner, thank you very much. Much. Now, so many of you have been getting in touch after our debate about dangerous dogs. So well be showing you some of youve all been so good today. Youve all been so good today. And one item that weve been discussing in particular has caught your attention and that is dangerous dogs. And were talking about these. What do they called killer excel or bully . Yes. Well, the spiral footage that emerged over the weekend and you might have seen it, of this dog attack really shocked us. So we thought wed ask, you know, should they be banned . The home saying thinks home secretary saying she thinks enough home secretary saying she thinks eno dor home secretary saying she thinks eno do we home secretary saying she thinks enodo we have home secretary saying she thinks eno do we have this footage from do we have this footage from birmingham . We dont. Birmingham . No, we dont. But we do have lots of views. But we do have lots of views. David says hes simply implement a law that those dogs should be muzzled while out in pubuc should be muzzled while out in public with immediate effect. Then bring in a law to ban the breeding and ownership those breeding and ownership of those dogs. Only time i can see dogs. The only time i can see action taken this breed action being taken on this breed of is when an mp or a police of dog is when an mp or a Police Officer is seriously hurt. Look, you all dogs are capable you know, all dogs are capable of biting , but not all dogs are of biting, but not all dogs are capable of killing one or is capable of killing one or is capable of killing one or is capable of being provoked as easily as these bully dogs as they are called. And dogs are, by and large, genuinely the most loving. And theyve got 1 1 instinct, which is quite bad when someone rings your doorbell or approaches your path. Yeah and so the amount of amazon man and deliveroo people have been scared off from our house, but our dog just literally wouldnt hurt a fly. Shes not even dont tell anyone that shes not even nasty in any way. But she does bark from the point of view that she wants to protect us when somebody comes. And remember my sort of first and i remember my sort of first job delivering newspapers and job of delivering newspapers and id that was really and respect to postman and women whatever as well because when you go into a dogs territory , they will bite dogs territory, they will bite post post these hands when they put them through the letterbox and things like that. But theres a difference between bitten by a dash hound and being bitten by a dash hound and being bitten by a killer. Whatever. Xl bully dog. Why would you even bully dog. Why would you even call it an xl . Well, its actually just the name implies that the owners want to sort of be. But anyway, cave says i have one of these dogs. Hes the dopiest, most obedient dog ive ever owned. Its how you train them and what theyre trained for. If you train any dog to be aggressive, it will be on a lighter note, at least like the cat in your video. They arent carrying knives. Yeah toms written in with a picture of his two puppies and says these two would lick you to death given the chance. Although they arent xl bully dogs. They arent xl bully dogs. Meanwhile, carolyn has written in saying, look at this vintage photograph of bully breeds. Been around for many, many years. What that is unfairly persecuted. The british bulldog gets a bully breed. Look different years ago. Is that now a bully breed your comments are not well, this xl bully not fair. Well, this xl bully dog, an american breed, only arrived in the uk. We were told arrived in the uk. We were told earlier by an expert in 2018. So they are new. It doesnt mean all bulldogs are dangerous, but this particular breed. Yeah, is responsible. I think for 75 of responsible. I think for 75 of dog attacks and killed one dog a day during the month of july. I love dogs. I do love dogs. I get all soppy talking about dogs. The most beautiful, wondrous, loving creatures and even today, before going to work, she licked me and she kissed me. She nuzzled against me. And then the dog came. I knew you were going to do that. If only. If only. If only. Peter. If only. Peter. Peter if only. Peter. Peter says someone dumped this dog in my garden. It took me 20 whole garden. It took me 20 whole minutes to stop it growling. Minutes to stop it growling. Theni minutes to stop it growling. Then i managed to feed it some food , and i called the rescuers food, and i called the rescuers who took it away. Well, the growling bits, the scary bit. And. And remember , they all they and. And remember, they all they all just exist to eat. Well, as long as its not you they want to eat. This is another story of a dog, a neighbours dog in their garden. And this person doesnt want named for reasons want to be named for reasons that will become apparent. I unfortunately have a neighbour who the who has that breed of dog. The neighbour purchased it as a status symbol to show tough status symbol to show hes tough and deliberately kicks and and he deliberately kicks and punches the animal to make it aggressive. Now its a fully grown xl. The dog is extremely aggressive and whats more, he has two very Young Children reported rspca months reported to the rspca months ago. Theyre not interested. The xl already attacked the children and owner walks around with and the owner walks around with the unleashed and smiles as the xl unleashed and smiles as it attacks other dogs and cats. My goodness me, thats why he doesnt want to be named because his neighbour sounds like a lunatic. Yeah and it gives all dogs a bad name. Actually and dogs a bad name. Actually and dog owners bad name as well. Dog owners a bad name as well. Its a shame round if you its a shame all round if you have to change the rules, but i think its interesting that Suella Braverman has said enough is how more is enough. How many more children, more people children, how many more people have have to be have to be bitten, have to be mauled, to. Mauled, and some have to. And i think, you know, and also, i think, you know, if you choose a breed of dog and you shouldnt you shouldnt do that. Just adopt, not that. You should just adopt, not shop need rescuing shop. So many dogs need rescuing and theyll give you so much love back if they are. We dont need these bully dogs. We dont need these bully dogs. We dont need breed. They need this breed. So they shouldnt be allowed in the country anyway. Were to going be allowed back into the studio tomorrow. Think we tomorrow. We think if we think from but next time from 6 am. But next its time for your weather update with rachel ayers. Have a good day. Bye brighter outlook with boxt a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Good morning. My name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news Weather Forecast brought to you by the met office. So it was a hot weekend , but. So it was a hot weekend, but what does it look like as we go into the new week . Well, there is plenty of brightness across much of england and wales to start this morning with any mist, low cloud lifting mist, fog and low cloud lifting and but we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing and breaking. But we are seeing an increase cloud and an increase in cloud and outbreaks sinking outbreaks of rain sinking southeastwards throughout this morning. We might also see the morning. We might also see the odd heavier shower and thunderstorm developing as we go into this afternoon. Still into this afternoon. Still feeling pleasant in any sunny spells , those temperatures spells, but those temperatures a fair on what we at fair bit down on what we saw at the weekend highs of 27 in the weekend with highs of 27 in the weekend with highs of 27 in the southeast east. Now, as we go into this evening, the southeast east. Now, as we go into this evening , this cloud go into this evening, this cloud and will continue to make and rain will continue to make its south eastwards, its way south eastwards, becoming heavy in places but also slow moving as it goes into england. And wales, clearing skies there across scotland, Northern Ireland and later on across Northern England. So across Northern England. So a chilly night to come here. Those still humid and remaining warm further south. So as we go into the start of tuesday, a fairly foggy , humid and murky start to foggy, humid and murky start to the day for much of england and wales with outbreaks of rain spreading southeast outwards throughout the day. Plenty of sunshine, though, for scotland, Northern Ireland and Northern England, but starting to feel a fair bit cooler here with those winds coming from a northerly direction still just clinging on to some of that warmth there across the south east with highs still low to still getting into the low to mid 20s. Mid 20s. A brighter outlook with boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Morning. Morning. Big day spying ahmeds spy in the house of the house of commons. Will an mp name him to him . We think under parliamentary privilege. I think so. Spying for china . Yeah. Maybe. Weve also, of course, maybe. Weve also, of course, today is nine divided by 11. The anniversary of nine over 11. Are we still under threat . Well, that story would suggest that we might be. Dont go good morning. Good morning. Its 9 30 am. On monday, 11th of september. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner. Good morning. Thank you for joining us. So the Terror Threat continues 22 years on from the nine over 11 terror attack. There are warnings that the Terror Threat from al qaeda and isis is not over. Bannau napoli, the home secretary, Suella Braverman , weighed in. Braverman, weighed in. She says shes seeking urgent advice on banning american bully dogs after an attack in birmingham went viral this weekend. Weekend. Spy showdown as the Prime Minister returns from the g20 summit in india, hes facing calls to designate china as a National Security threat , as National Security threat, as there seems to have been a spy at the heart of British Government pensions in peril