Decades. We look back at his journey as one of the most influential media moguls. The toast of france, the king and queen begin the last day of their royal visit and aiden scott , your weather. Its scott, your weather. Its another day of dodging downpours , but it wont be an entirely wet weekend. Ill have all the details in the forecast coming up. The forecast coming up. And pauls got your sport. I do. Good morning. Liverpool rangers and west ham all win in europe yesterday. Not so good europe yesterday. Not so good for brighton and aston villa. Also, its world cup rugby weekend. All the home nations are playing and the solheim cup starts today. Lovely stuff , paul. Thank lovely stuff, paul. Thank you. Very excited about that very much. Im stephen dixon. Very much. Im stephen dixon. Good morning. And im anne diamond and this is breakfast on gb news as. Should we talk about food, spam, spam , spam, spam, spam, front spam, spam, spam, spam, front page of the daily star says save our spam. And they are launching a campaign to get us to go out and buy spam. Buy spam because apparently were not. And the thought is that if we dont buy spam a bit more, it might actually disappear from our supermarket shelves. Yes but theyve listed the top ten items which were no longer longer which were no longer no longer found cupboards and i have to found in cupboards and i have to say, i dont think spam was ever in my cupboard. Well, theres spam. Bovril corned beef, rice pudding, semolina , tinned peaches. Then semolina, tinned peaches. Then number seven is smash, which i have got in my cupboard. Oh, angel delight, which ive got in my cupboard really tin sardines, which i havent. And number 10 is pot noodle, which i have a lot in the cupboard really. Oh thats very naughty. Oh its actually because theres nothing nutritious in it. Nothing bad in it. Itsjust stuff. If i read out the ingredion, i dont know whether thats true, but what you should have in your cupboard apparently true, but what you should have in you couscousd apparently true, but what you should have in you couscous or. parently true, but what you should have in you couscous or. Irarently true, but what you should have in you couscous or. I have ly true, but what you should have in you couscous or. I have got spam, couscous or. I have got that couscous. No couscous. That couscous. No couscous. Couscous, harissa paste , couscous, harissa paste, coconut milk, pesto , which ive coconut milk, pesto, which ive got milk. Ive got pesto. Got milk. Ive got pesto. Yeah. Pesto. Yeah. Pesto. Quinoa or quinoa to as northerners as you have to say quinoa teriyaki sauce, miso paste. Yeah, ive got that. I dont yeah, ive got that. I dont eat that. But my sons do bulgur wheat, soy sauce. Oh, lots of soy sauce and chickpeas. Yeah. No, see, the nations yeah. No, see, the nations tastes are changing. Thats the point. Thats the point. Thats the point. So im old. Im very Old Fashioned. Then according to that. Do you drink bovril. 7 do you drink bovril. 7 no. Oh, no. Its meat, isnt it . No. Oh, no. Its meat, isnt it. 7 well, thats it. Its the smell. Ive never tasted bovril, but the smell is hideous. Marmite is not on that list, actually. So marmite is still popular, right. 7 still very popular, right. 7 right. | still very popular, right. 7 right. I mean, the right. Yeah but i mean, the nations tastes are changing, arent have you quinoa arent they . Have you got quinoa in id love to in your cupboard . Id love to know. I like quinoa. I mean, know. I do like quinoa. I mean, i know it sounds stupidly posh , i know it sounds stupidly posh, and there ought to be a plainer name but , and there ought to be a plainer name but, yeah, name for it. Yes, but, yeah, things are changing. Things are changing. Well, let us know whats in your cupboard if youre Old Fashioned, like me are a bit more modern than like an gb views gbnews. Com. So sophisticated. So sophisticated. You are. You are. Well talk about that later. Well talk about that later. Yeah. Tell you what well talk about right now. Is this video clip that a lot of people are talking about. Its the labour leader, keir starmer. It was filmed last weekend, posted on social media by some on social media and seen by some as confirmation labour as confirmation that labour wants closer ties with the eu. Wants closer ties with the eu. Yeah, its interesting, isnt it . Speaking at a conference in montreal , keir starmer appeared montreal, keir starmer appeared convinced that he was wanted a stronger britain and he said both the eu and the uk would need to work on common goals such as Climate Change and immigration. This is what he had to say. Of the conflict with the most of the conflict with the uk being outside of the uk arise is insofar as the uk wants to diverge and do Different Things to the rest of our eu partners. To the rest of our eu partners. Obviously the more we share values , the more we share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict act and actually different ways of solving problems are become available. Problems are become available. So lets head to our westminster studio and our Political Correspondent catherine forster. Morning catherine. I mean, to be fair , catherine. I mean, to be fair, he does sound like someone who is making an argument for joining the eu rather than how we do better out of it, better out of it. Out of it. Well, thats what many people are saying. The conservatives, of course, have jumped on this and said, aha, this is proof that labour , a labour that labour, a Labour Government, would reverse brexit and certainly has caused a lot of debate because keir starmer has been very , very careful in has been very, very careful in what he said about brexit in the uk. But in this rather unguarded moment on saturday in montreal with this meeting of Progressive Centre left leaders , hes gone centre left leaders, hes gone rather farther than he ever has before. In saying that he doesnt want to diverge from eu regulation as he talks about in Environmental Standards in terms of workers rights, which sort of begs the question then, well, what is the point of brexit now the conservatives, as ive said, have leapt upon this. The eu, the deal that weve currently done and bear in mind that everybodys come along and said wed get a better deal to raise a message, youd get a good deal a message, youd get a good deal. Borisjohnson a message, youd get a good deal. Boris johnson said, get a better deal. Rishi sunak claim to get a better deal with the Windsor Framework. Keir starmer seems to think that they can get a better deal too, but it certainly does sound like closer alignment. Certainly does sound like closer alignment. Isnt. And the thing is theres an election looming as were all very, very well aware by now. There were huge numbers of labour voters in the last election, particularly in what we now call the red wall. That vote conservative for the first time, partly because they didnt like Jeremy Corbyn last only because they wanted to , only because they wanted to, quote, get brexit done as Boris Johnson promise. But now this johnson promise. But now this sort of message from keir starmer , i suspect may set some starmer, i suspect may set some alarm bells ringing though labour are now saying no , labour are now saying no, absolutely not. Weve ruled out rejoining. Were not going back in the Single Market, were not going back in the Customs Union. The eu are not to going make the rules, but certainly it does sound like sir keir starmer does want a very close relationship with the eu. With the eu. Okay, catherine, well be back with you a bit later on as well because weve got a lot to discuss on that one and im sure everybody at home has got a view. I mean, what does that tell you about keir starmer and the way the general election might meanwhile to might be fought . Meanwhile to somebody always claims somebody who always claims that he Prime Minister in he he got the Prime Minister in whoever wins, president in whoever wins, president in whoever wins. Media mogul Rupert Murdoch has always said it was him. What does it however he is now stepping down as chairman of fox and news corp. His eldest son, lachlan, will lead both companies and a memo sent to employees. Mr murdoch said the time is right for him to take on different roles at 92 and hes set to transition to the role of chairman emeritus. But it basically just means retired , basically just means retired, doesnt it . No, i think hes going to keep his hand in, is he . But thats what emeritus means. It means you you get involved when you want to to, and its not quite letting go of the reins anyway. So hes going to be chairman emeritus of firms from emeritus of both firms from mid november. Breakfasts mid november. Well breakfasts dean a look back dean spencer takes a look back at his seven run as one at his seven decade run as one of the most influential global men in the media industry. Mr born in melbourne in 1931, murdoch developed an interest in the media at a young age, while at oxford university, he tried to buy the student newspaper. His father, sir keith murdoch. One of australias most distinguished newspapermen, died in 1953 and left the family a controlling share of a single adelaide news. Rupert returned from britain to run it, aged 22. He quickly expanded the business, buying a string of other titles. But murdochs ambitions were global. In 1968, he bought the uks news of the world. The sun, and by 1986, the times and the sunday times, his papers were accused of political manipulation in a Television Revolution soon followed as murdoch went on to launch the Satellite Tv Service sky. But murdoch had his eye on a bigger prize and began to focus on the us, where he gained a foothold in 1976 with the tabloids. The New York Post in 1985. News corp bought 20th century fox. By the late 1980s, murdochs empire had racked up near crippling debts , racked up near crippling debts, but it survived. Murdoch faced further criticism in 2011 when journalists at his uk newspaper, the news of the world, were found to have hacked the phones of countless celebrities and of the murdered teenager milly dowler. Members of the house of Commons Culture Committee described him as a fit described him as not a fit person to exercise the stewardship major stewardship of the Major International company, the news of the world was no longer, and he his shares in fox and he sold his shares in fox and sky. But even with the dwindling empire, the murdochs family net worth is currently estimated to be 14. 1 billion. By forbes magazine. Magazine. Well , lets talk to magazine. Well, lets talk to our senior political commentator , senior political commentator, nigel nelson, who joins us now. Morning to you, nigel. What are we to what are we to make of this . And i suppose what the future holds for the murdoch empire with lachlan in charge . Empire with lachlan in charge . Yeah, i think that the great difference is going to be that lachlan wont meddle in politics quite the same way as his father did. I mean, Rupert Murdoch has spent his life shaping politics on, on and influencing it on three continents. I dont think his son will be quite the same. His son will be quite the same. However, i also think annes probably right that Rupert Murdoch hasnt actually quite given up the reins of power, that he will be there in the background. And i still think he background. And i still think he might he might try and do a bit of meddling, meddling anyway, even at 92, it is said by all the commentators in todays press that lachlan isnt very interested at all in britain or the british end of the empire. The british end of the empire. And that may be at some point he will actually sell off the british interests, particularly starting with the sun. What do you think . You think . Well, he might mean itll be a business decision, i think, rather than anything else. I rather than anything else. I mean, its perfectly true. Lachlan has had much more interest in American Media than he has over here. But the sun is still a successful newspaper here. I cant see any reason why in the in the immediate future the empire would want to shut it i do you think well ever see anyone like Rupert Murdoch again with with this much power because it does raise a lot of questions, doesnt it, as to whether someone who is a you know, a media mogul has business interests , should be wielding as interests, should be wielding as much political power as he does . 7 no, 7 no, absolutely . No, absolutely right. I 7 no, absolutely right. I mean, no, absolutely right. I mean, i knew knew Rupert Murdoch personally in the 1980s when i was living in new york through family connections and his meddling in politics was going on. Then meddling in politics was going on. Then we used to argue about his campaign to stop Teddy Kennedy becoming us president. His support for margaret thatcher. She was very grateful for that. And i think youre for that. And i think youre right. We wont see his like again. That Rupert Murdoch is not just one of the biggest media tycoons. He is the biggest in media history , even more so in media history, even more so than. In media history, even more so than. William randolph hearst. Than. William randolph hearst. Okay, nigel, good to see you. Thanks very much indeed. Thanks very much indeed. And lets head to other people who are making the news headunes people who are making the News Headlines and its been a very triumphant visit for the king and queen in france. Theyre going to start today with a trip to bordeaux where theyre expected to meet with communities affected by last years wildfires. Yeah theyre also to enjoy some wine also going to enjoy some wine tasting at a sustainable vineyard. Vineyard. And bordeaux is home to almost 40,000 britons, apparently. And is for some reason unknown to god and man. Frequently compared to bristol. I think it was an early twinning or Something Like that, the king said yesterday. Anyway, joining us this morning, royal correspondent michael correspondent and writer michael cole. Morning, michael. Cole. Good morning, michael. Its been a very successful visit , hasnt it . Good morning visit, hasnt it . Good morning and good morning, steven. Or should that be bonjour and vive le roy . You know , long live vive le roy . You know, long live the king, because the french have taken king charles and Queen Camilla to their hearts. Queen camilla to their hearts. They guillotined their last king, 230 years ago. And over through their last emperor, napoleon, the third in 1870. But theyre still fascinated by monarchy. In fact, there are two monarchy. In fact, there are two claimants to the french throne. Ive met one of them, the comte de paris and anybody who looks at french magazine , those glossy at french magazine, those glossy ones , or france dimanche will ones, or france dimanche will see its always full of British Royal news. So its been a Great Success this visit yesterday in particular the visit to saint denis, which is the rather poor suburb of northern france, where it happens the french kings are buried in a basilica there and that went down very well with the queen playing table tennis with Brigitte Macron and the king visiting people all and wishing best of luck to people competing in the rugby world cup. But now they go down to aquitaine, to bordeaux , down to aquitaine, to bordeaux, as you say, until about 570 years ago. So akua was a british possession with an english king. So there the ties are there. Its not just the claret wine. Its not just the claret wine. Thats right. They are there very full. And theres a very big British Community there. And theyll be meeting them and visiting an organic vineyard. Visiting an organic vineyard. Yes. I mean, it helps, doesnt it, that the king has is a francophile. I mean, he spoke french in his speech, which must have been quite impressive. But camilla has looked like a queen on this visit , hasnt she . Shes on this visit, hasnt she . Shes dressing superbly and she looks the. Business the. Business absolutely. And of course, she paid a compliment to france by dressing in dior for the banquet in the hall of mirrors at the palace of versailles. Of course, its impossible to compete with the chic of Brigitte Macron. I mean, shes absolutely superb. One one lady absolutely superb. One one lady whos 70, thats brigitte. And the queen is 76. But theyre a good pair. And they looked as if they were getting on well. And do you know what ive noticed . That the king looks so happy. That the king looks so happy. Hes so different from the queen in the late queen. I mean, his mother , he loves chatting to mother, he loves chatting to people. Hes quite tactile. He people. Hes quite tactile. He all the time. Hes talking to people and relating to them. And thats going down terribly well. He looks very relaxed into the role a year into it. He looks very relaxed into the role a year into it. And this role a year into it. And this visit, i mean, all state visits are important, but this is an extremely important state visit. And hes spoken of the golden bond, which ties us to our good friends and our good allies of course, weve had bumpy moments with the french. We always will have, but they are our nearest neighbours and we all love to go there, dont we . We certainly do. We do. Michael. Good to see you. Thank you very much indeed. Now, it is you very much indeed. Now, it is 6 16. Lets just remind you of the top stories this morning. And could we be heading towards a closer relationship with brussels . Well, thats what sir brussels . Well, thats what sir keir starmer appears to want. If he becomes Prime MinisterRupert Murdoch says hes stepping down as chairman of fox and news corp after seven decades. Well be looking back at his journey as one of the most influential global media moguls and coming up, the landlord whos owned a pub for nearly 40 years and says its still cash only for a pint. Well find out why later. On and. At 617, Aidan Mcgivern has and. At 617, Aidan Mcgivern has your friday weather. Your friday weather. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. With the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially, the showers focussed for northern central and western scotland, Northern Ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine will be across the midlands, Eastern England, eastern scotland. But the cloud will build through the day. The showers will transfer east so that by the afternoon when drying up somewhat when it is drying up somewhat across Northern Ireland, west wales, and cornwall. But across Northern Ireland, west walshowers and cornwall. But across Northern Ireland, west walshowers are|d cornwall. But across Northern Ireland, west walshowers are transferring but the showers are transferring east of thunder east odd rumble of thunder possible in Eastern England by the the day. Cool feel the end of the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday today. And its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned , but temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward then into the evening, showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely widely clear skies , lighter winds. And as skies, lighter winds. And as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday. Widely mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland, caithness, sutherland, shetland and orkney seeing the odd shower elsewhere across its beautiful across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty of blue cloud build into blue skies cloud will build into the but it stays dry the afternoon, but it stays dry for the vast majority. It will feel cool, but it given the dry and fine weather , a perfectly and fine weather, a perfectly pleasant days. Pleasant days. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. News all the sport weather on. News all the sport in just a moment with paul be going through last nights Europa League action this is breakfast on gb news. Morning to you. It is 621. This is breakfast with stephen and ann on your tv, on your radio and online. Should we have a look at lots of the stories that are coming into the newsroom at the moment and a woman has accused Russell Brand himself to her brand of exposing himself to her and then laughing about it later on air on his bbc radio two show. The woman claims it happenedin show. The woman claims it happened in 2008 when she was working in the same building as the broadcaster in los angeles. The actor and comedian has not yet commented on the latest allegation, but denies all other allegations against him. Natwest has confirmed issues with its cash deposit machines after customers reported money was missing from their accounts. Several people on x said that recently deposited cash wasnt showing up in their balance. Others said they had gone overdrawn as a result and expressed concern that they would be charged and earth is about to receive a special delivery from spacex and nasa spacecraft will fly close to earth, dropping off a cup full of rubble that has been collected from an asteroid. Collected from an asteroid. Scientists believe that this handful of dust could actually hold the secret to where we all came from. Which begs the came from. Which begs the question, why are they dropping it . Dont know. Thats a very good point to find out more about that. Its just cheaper. Or maybe they want to someone will catch it to find the effect that it has as it. I dont understand that at all. Well look into that. No, dont know. Well find out. Got the out. Anyway, pauls got the sport this morning. Good sport for us this morning. Good morning. Good morning. Sport for us this morning. Good moaing. Good morning. Sport for us this morning. Good moa cup good morning. Sport for us this morning. Good moa cup good rrubblei. Sport for us this morning. Good moa cup good rrubble for you. A cup full of rubble for you. A cup of sporting rubble. A cup full of sporting rubble. Yeah talk about yeah should we talk about european and i know european football . And i know youve watching last youve been watching it last night. I know. Thats why came in today. Thats why i came in today. Thats why i came in today. How do you feel about the and how do you feel about the fact that theres going to be more tv . More football on tv . Well, im divided about it. Are you sure . No. Are you sure . No. Now, what was the result . I didnt know what the results of that were. They theyre they still theyre still talking they have agreed. Whos talking about what . Whos talking about what . Well, this is the premier league. Is the premier league. Were going to show even more matches. Yeah, yeah, theres going to be more on what be even more on what subscription channels or on everything. Well, its everything. Yeah, well, its all subscription all subscription isnt it . All the live games. Its all about the money to going live games. Its all about the monejbillions. To going live games. Its all about the monejbillions. Like to going live games. Its all about the monejbillions. Like itsgoing make billions. Its like its just so many billions that goes abroad a abroad in here. But to cut a long story short, they decided what they were against is not only the 3 00 saturday kick off. They the sunday they wont have, but the sunday they about they were talking even about sunday which would sunday evening, which would really ruin things for me and antiques roadshow. So there was no possibly watch no chance i could possibly watch football on a sunday. Ever heard a recorder . You ever heard of a recorder . You ever heard of a recorder . What was it like . Oh, well, what was it like . That. Thats what my dad used to do it like that. And then. Hold on. We are. Hit those two. On. There we are. Hit those two. Well, anyway, last in well, anyway, last night in europe, the europa europe, there was the Europa LeagueConference League and also the Conference League. Liverpool against league. Liverpool won against lask linz. Lask lask of linz, lask of linz. Lask of well theyre actually of linz. Well theyre actually called odd linzer athletic sk sporting which is lask from Sporting Club which is lask from lint. So you dont actually say lask of linz because the l stands for linz. Anyway, lets say the n one motorway. Exactly. Exactly. Thats exactly the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah. So as green as im cabbage looking. You know what, frank . So, you know what, frank . So, anyway, scored the goals . Anyway, who scored the goals . Well, i know that. Why are you going to ask me that . Because i know mo salah came on at the end. He know mo salah came on at the end. He scored one of the goals, but they were 1 0 down. But we had klopp, and its his had jurgen klopp, and its his 50th win in europe. And youve 50th win in europe. And youve actually got who scored the goals. We are, darwin goals. There we are, darwin nunez and also luis diaz. Luis diaz as well. No new mo salah scored because he started with 11 different players from the wolves game. You know. Wolves game. As you well know. Earlier on in the week. So then they have the insurance policy of being able to bring them on again. Yeah. Should there be any. So paul, how did brighton get on in their european debut against aek athens . Well, its funny should that. Anne funny you should say that. Anne because going to come because i was just going to come to what are the chances . To that. What are the chances . Aek athens managed to beat brighton brighton, brighton and brighton, first time. Very exciting time in europe. Very exciting time in europe. Very exciting time there there and everybody thinks its going to be great, but they lost to athens 3 2. But theyve also got marseille and ajax in their group. So its to going be very tricky. All right, heres a trick question then. What does ak stand for . Club, i presume its going to be club. Theres always athens, european. European, athens. European extra special club. Youre guessing, but thats anyway. Guessing, but thats anyway. Rangers beat real betis1 0 and west ham. Heres another. And ill be honest with you. With europe and often Conference League, although this is in the Europa League, you get clubs that clubs that im not familiar with. And one of those clubs is barca topola. I thought he was in fiddler on the roof. Thats about thats as far as i got. But anyway, backa topola south of serbia, went 1 0 up against west ham and then west ham turned things around again. Well topless topola they toppled the topless. They did topple the topless. They did topple the topless legia warsaw beat aston villa. So thats it. Thats villa. And so thats it. Thats pretty much everything. Four time Europa League winner so solheim cup. Oh yes. Oh yes. Solheim cup starts today because weve got the cup. Because weve got the ryder cup. We talked the ryder cup we talked about the ryder cup yesterday. Ryder starts yesterday. The ryder cup starts next but solheim next weekend. But the solheim cup, is pretty much the cup, which is pretty much the same as the ryder cup, its the womens version, started in 1990. Weve won the last three against the americans. So europe against the americans. So europe against america. And that begins in today. In spain today. You ever eaten spam . Have you ever eaten spam . Have you ever eaten spam . Yes, i have. Do you like it . Yes, i have. Do you like it . Yes. You know what . I didnt i did actually used to quite like it. And ive still got a tin of spam was like a promotional spam that was like a promotional thing from, you know, spamalot. Thing from, you know, spamalot. You we did the monty you know, when we did the monty python this promotional python thing, this promotional tin which i still have tin of spam, which i still have and havent opened, it . No, and havent opened, does it . No, i no. I wouldnt, no. Think it lasts about 120 years. I think it does. And if you turn the key, it has that special key isnt it. But apparently we were saying, mean because the lead saying, i mean because the lead in the star is that in the daily star today is that were eating spam what were not eating spam like what were not eating spam like what we to. And so its probably we used to. And so its probably going disappear going to disappear from supermarket going to disappear from supermalyoure going to disappear from superma|youre not. I bet youre not. I bet youre not. Already lots of people but already lots of people have been in touch saying you still fritters in still get spam fritters in your local fish and chip shop. Yes, adrian says spam fritters from the lovely, the chippy are lovely, especially beans. Especially with baked beans. And says spam fish and and paul says spam fish and chips from the chippy best ever. Absolutely beautiful. Definitely mushy peas. I think depends where i think it depends where youre to your chippies youre going to your chippies because some chippies down south, think you get the south, i dont think you get the spam it. Maybe the north spam for it. Maybe the north sometimes you do. I wonder it is a north i wonder if it is a north south thing. Dont think so south thing. I dont think so though. In dorset said as though. Betty in dorset said as a child just after the war, we were boiled in were given beef, tea boiled in hot we were poorly. Hot water. If we were poorly. Apparently bovril is going out of fashion as as well. Of fashion as well as well. Just like you, paul. You just like you, paul. So you can we will see you can go. But we will see you a little bit later. Well, well like a old well, well see. Like a old tin of spam. Ask forever. Tin of spam. Ill ask forever. Thank you. All right. Stick with us. Coming the newspapers coming up, how the newspapers are reporting the big stories, including allegation are reporting the big stories, includirrussell allegation are reporting the big stories, includirRussell Brand. Llegation against Russell Brand. Plus other elsewhere, against Russell Brand. Plus other its elsewhere, against Russell Brand. Plus other its headlineewhere, against Russell Brand. Plus other its headline makers because its headline makers next. Watching breakfast gb news. Its 630. Good morning. This its 630. Good morning. This is breakfast on gb news our top stories today and could we be heading towards a closer relationship with brussels . Thats what keir starmer appears to want. Should he become the to want. Should he become the next Prime MinisterRupert Murdoch says hes stepping down or stepping back as the chairman of fox and news corp. After seven decades, well be looking back at his journey as one of the most influential global media moguls. Global media moguls. And the toast of france , the and the toast of france, the king and queen begin their last day of their visit on france today, meeting brits who live in the country, particularly in bordeaux, actually, where theyre heading today and produce wine or french toast and bordeaux mix. Cant argue with that. Bordeaux mix. Cant argue with that. Well, time for headline that. Well, time for headline makers. This morning. Lets start with the front pages. Should we . The telegraph has jeremy hunt saying tax cuts are virtually impossible. Well, and virtually impossible. Well, and hes warned he faces some difficult decisions. Will he ever said we all the times, says rishi sunak wants an a level reform to boost pupils life skills and he aims to open divisions with labour in the sun. The bbc dragged deeper into the Russell Brand scandal after he was accused of exposing himself whilst working and then talking about it on his radio show. Show. And finally the star save our spam after it was revealed that shoppers are turning their backs on Old Fashioned foods. Lets talk to former chief secretary to the treasury, david mellor and writer and columnist emma wolf, who are for here us this morning. Good to see you both. Lets kick off, david, with this, because it is the clip that everyones talking about morning. Starmer about this morning. Keir starmer talking having sort of talking about having sort of fewer whats the word he uses . Fewer whats the word he uses . Not its not divisions, but he basically has said he will not disagree with major decisions that the eu has made. Do you think thats what hes saying, though . Well, i mean, with keir, it never be quite clear. You know, keir may be a lawyer , but he was one of those lawyer, but he was one of those lawyers who obfuscates rather than offers clarity. Look i think probably the tories are toast, right . I mean, i wouldnt bet the ranch on the tories doing well at the next election, but if anyone can pull. Doing well at the next election, but if anyone can pull. The the but if anyone can pull. The the tories problems and say out of the beyond, since were all very french arent we today. I mean the tories may be deep in the bouillon, but they can be pulled out by keir starmer and i do not understand what the man is playing at. The idea that going along with european decisions , along with european decisions, not as though its not as though we left some entity. I was very i was in a good position , i was in a good position, actually. Its like being a chelsea fan , going to match chelsea fan, going to a match tonight Manchester City game. Tonight at Manchester City game. I hate both of them. So i hated the eu and i most of the the eu and i hated most of the people who came out with a pack of lies saying why we should come of the eu. So im in come out of the eu. So im in a very good place here. But i tell you something, i dont understand keir starmer understand why keir starmer thinks theres votes in going along with the eu because the eu people probably are not the shining city on a hill. You talk to youngsters my sons age and they would go for that. They would. Theyd think, all right, lets move just little right, lets move just a little bit closer the eu. They bit closer to the eu. They really would. Frightening. Now, what quite frightening. Now, what do want have the voting do they want to have the voting age to nine or age reduced to nine or something . Yeah well, yeah. What do you think . I wonder why both think . I just wonder why both parties i mean, we saw it yesterday with net zero and rishi sunak kind of u turning in terms of the pledges that we need to do to get there, but not really u turning on the ultimate goal really u turning on the ultimate goal, i just think both parties could themselves a favour by could do themselves a favour by just clear. Just being clear. Not idiots. Voters are were not idiots. Voters are not idiots. You just not idiots. You cant just pretend that youre sort of both. Youre sort of going to carry on with brexit. Youre not going to reverse brexit, but you are going to go in the direction of the eu for voters like your son. Think, why not be son. I just think, why not be clear with about where you clear with us about where you stand because keir stand on this . Because keir starmer hasnt been hasnt been clear. Youre asking politicians but youre asking politicians to be honest, of course, and they want have it both ways. They want to have it both ways. Thats because dont but thats true because dont forget. Starmer, we always forget. Keir starmer, we always need when need to remember that when corbyn labour corbyn was leader of the labour party and somewhere in the far distance you had to put a pair of binoculars on see where he of binoculars on to see where he was spectrum. Keir was on the spectrum. Keir starmer his spokesman on starmer was his spokesman on europe. And you know, there are two sorts of lawyers in politics. I was a lawyer, but i used tell my mother i was used to tell my mother i was a pianist in a strip club, but i was actually a lawyer. I have to admit, she preferred you to be a oh, i think she thought it would have been. Id have had a great career tinkling the ivies and the strip club. She wasnt so sure about everything the point everything else, but the point of is the idea of you of the matter is the idea of you going to your mother saying, i want to politician. Want to be a politician. Oh, no. All right. She did say that. Oh, no. All right. She did sayshe . Oh, no. All right. She did sayshe did oh, no. All right. She did say she did say both those she did say both of those things. She was a sensible things. But she was a sensible woman, mum. Anyway heres the woman, my mum. Anyway heres the reality that keir starmer , reality that that keir starmer, you know, there are lawyers who who became politician went wanted to go into politics and they became lawyers. Keir starmer is a lawyer, a signed up lawyer. Now, the thing about lawyer. Now, the thing about a lawyer. Now, the thing about a lawyer is a proven lawyer, as peter cook always used to say, that they dont actually have any deep seated beliefs. You know, you tell them to argue one thing and you give them a few. Bob and then you give them a few more bob and they argue something completely different. And is sense of belief and there is no sense of belief with man , but hes got he with this man, but hes got he is playing dangerous game. Is playing a dangerous game. It because i think its is it because i think its right. There is a Younger Generation perhaps may buy right. There is a younger genethisin perhaps may buy right. There is a younger genethis idea perhaps may buy right. There is a younger genethis idea pe closer� nay buy right. There is a younger genethis idea pe closer tie buy into this idea of a closer tie with again theyd buy with europe. Again theyd buy into that. So its a vote winner into that. So its a vote winner in sense. But red wall seats in one sense. But red wall seats also a huge betrayal of all of those 50 that voted for brexit, no matter what you think. And also, will people like an son . No, no. Not throwing shade on. No, no. Its all about will they go . Its all of them. Will they go out and vote . Because you have to remember you want. Okay, well, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, traditionally its going to be the older the red wall who will vote against this. Problem, but theres a problem, actually, even actually, isnt there, even with the voters that in that the older voters in that in that sense, the older voters sense, because the older voters tend to be more right wing and all the rest of it. And but theyre now. Parties like all the rest of it. And but theyre are now. Parties like all the rest of it. And but theyre are gettingarties like all the rest of it. And but theyre are getting enoughike reform are getting enough momentum split the tory vote. Momentum to split the tory vote. Is the problem to well, that is the problem to that. And course, we still that. And of course, we still dont you know, lurking dont know, you know, lurking somewhere building is a somewhere in this building is a gentleman farage. You gentleman called farage. You heard of him . I indeed. Yes, i have indeed. Yes, i have indeed. Whats nigel going to do . At what point nigel going to say what point is nigel going to say im up my microphone for what point is nigel going to say |ibll up my microphone for what point is nigel going to say |ibll ime my microphone for what point is nigel going to say |ibll im going microphone for what point is nigel going to say |ibll im going to crophone for what point is nigel going to say |ibll im going to go 3hone for what point is nigel going to say |ibll im going to go ande for a bit and im going to go and cause some trouble on the political he wont be political stage . He wont be able political stage . He wont be aleell, we shall see. Well, we shall see. Well, we shall see. And i think a lot of our viewers would be very keen on him doing that. But ultimately, i amused. I would be quite amused. Very low turnout. Very, very low turnout. I think its very divisive. And i think that a lot of people dont know where the centre dont centre right people dont know where their vote. I dont where to put their vote. I dont think going to feel think theyre going to feel really that reform and reclaim and all those kind of and all of those kind of alternate lives credible alternate lives are credible enough. To be enough. I think its going to be a really low turnout and the problem that, you know, problem is too, that, you know, ive an admirer of ive always been an admirer of rishi sunak. Would have voted for him at i would have voted for him at every but it every opportunity, but it doesnt i think hes going doesnt mean i think hes going to be a great leader. I think the trouble for rishi sunak is hes intellectual. Hes bright, hes intellectual. Hes bright, hes but but in his hes experienced. But but in his guts , whats he really believe guts, whats he really believe in his guts . Whats he going to go out there and really fight for . And the answer, in the immortal words of that great magician of the past, not a lot. No, he doesnt come across as passionate about anything very much. Much. Emma, lets move on. Emma, lets move on. Great story. Great story. Such a human story. You think this is such good news . Can you describe whats happened . Really exciting. A little girl, an eight Year Old Girl has received a kidney from her mum , received a kidney from her mum, a little girl called Aditi Shankar has received this kidney at great ormond street. And for the first time, doctors have not needed to give her immuno suppressants. So theyve theyve they did the donor from her mum , the kidney from her mum. What an amazing thing to do, to give an amazing thing to do, to give a kidney to anybody, a a kidney to anybody, to give a kidney to daughter. And kidney to your daughter. And they require her to take they dont require her to take long term drugs to stop the rejection of the organ. Why . And thats the first time this has ever really happened, because theyve used peoplejust of explain to so just to sort of explain to anyone, people who normally have anyone, people who normally have an organ transplant have have an organ transplant have to have immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of their lives. Yeah. Yeah. And she did have them for a few weeks straight after the transplant. But because stem transplant. But because of stem cell miracles, more. This is cell miracles, more. This is amazing about cells , amazing stuff about stem cells, isnt anyway, they took isnt it . But anyway, they took stem from mother and stem cells from her mother and they were able to kind of make it homely, as were. It homely, as it were. They put sorry, apparently they put sorry, ive on this because ive read up on this because i was so keen on this. Apparently before they did the kidney transplant, they did a bone Marrow Transplant stem transplant, they did a bone marr frominsplant stem transplant, they did a bone marr frominsplaibatus stem transplant, they did a bone marr from insplaibatus and m transplant, they did a bone marr from insplaibatus and they cells from mum batus and they put into the daughters put it into the daughters marrow. That changed the marrow. So that they changed the whole characteristic of her, her own bone marrow. So that when they transplanted the kidney, it her body thought, thats my kidney. Yeah, except the organ. Incredible. It is. And shes now off. Shes doing swimming. Shes doing things that other children can do feeling well, which is do and feeling well, which is really, really amazing because she had a very, rare she had a very, very rare condition. Its called ciod. She shimkus immuno osseous dysplasia, which meant her kidneys were failing. Kidneys were failing. And this also that the doctors and scientists have been working all all over europe actually and america. Theyve all got work internationally on this kind of thing. Now, can we move back . I mean, its a wonderful story, but i dont understand it. Can we move back to something simple that i we move back to something simple thati can we move back to something simple that i can get into my head . Oh, well, yeah. All right, then, Rupert Murdoch. Oh, well, yeah. All right, then, riohil murdoch. Oh, well, yeah. All right, then, rioh aha. Irdoch. Ah oh aha. Ah oh aha. Well, so hes the man is. Well, hes going but not going. David. A bit like yourself, but hell go , hell go with a lot hell go, hell go with a lot more money than i will. Sad to tell you. Well we need to back to the beginning of to go back to the beginning of this and murdoch buying and sort of re creating this. We need to remember that the attack that murdoch has made on british civilisation is quite is quite profound actually, because once the sun became what it became in british tabloids, the whole whole, the standards really went through, went through the floor. But there he is. Hes still up there and hes still at it. If i was his son, i wouldnt buy too many bigger offices. I suspect dad will still be running the show from behind. And he will he will continue to for as well. As i say, he says theyll have to take him out. Yeah, because he wants to pursue new opportunities. Pursue new opportunities. Fantastic. But hes been married about ten times. Guess may be the so i guess there may be the odd there. Did he odd opportunity there. Did he say the papers are in great health . His corporation. And so is he. That throwaway he. I love that throwaway comment. I dont know comment. You know, i dont know whether think murdoch is whether to think that murdoch is a is has done a lot of a man who is has done a lot of great things for the media and that hes know, hes that hes hes you know, hes brought about a number of media revolutions he wielded too much but has he wielded too much political influence . But has he wielded too much pol undoubtedly,e . But has he wielded too much polundoubtedly, under but has he wielded too much pol undoubtedly, under outwardly, undoubtedly, under outwardly, hes wielded too much political influence. And, you know , it was influence. And, you know, it was quite sad, really, that leading british politicians had to go to wherever he was hanging out. And he would deliberately ask them to go to some conference of his executives so he could show im Rupert Murdoch. Those people here today, gone tomorrow. I am forever. Is it true that when a new Prime Minister gets in of whatever ilk in this country , whatever ilk in this country, almost the first guest in number 10 is Rupert Murdoch . 10 is Rupert Murdoch . Absolutely. I mean, john major, as you say to me, he wasnt going to play that game. And actually, to be fair to him, he didnt really. But i mean, at the of the day, it was the the end of the day, it was the sun. What won it . Well, yeah. Was it . Well, yeah. Was it . Well, yeah. Was it . No, i dont think so. Well, yeah. Was it . No, i dont think so. But well, yeah. Was it . No, i dont think so. But you no, i dont think so. But you see, doesnt matter. What see, it doesnt matter. What matters is doesnt matter whats true. What matters is what people believe. Its the factoid people believe. Its the factoid. And the great factoid is that murdoch, murdoch papers determine the political destiny of this country. Emma well, yeah. Emma well, yeah. I mean, when you have newspapers that millions of people used to be not so much now, but used to be reading every single day, of course theyre going to wield huge power. Its just inevitable. And power. Its just inevitable. And of therefore prime of course therefore Prime Ministers politicians ministers and politicians are going to them. I going to cosy up to them. I think itll be really interesting to see what his son, what lachlan does in terms of decisions. Suppose more decisions. I suppose thats more of interest thing. But of a media interest thing. But what they do in terms of decisions around and Television Channels know what we channels and you know what we what are the next steps . Will he want to keep expanding and pounng want to keep expanding and pouring into these pouring money into these ventures not . Ventures or not . Or will he sit back and get on the to dad every on the phone to dad every morning him he morning and ask him what he should doing . Well i think should be doing . Well i think theres going quite a lot theres going to be quite a lot of yeah, at least in the first years. Yeah. You sort of think, would you dare do anything else . Well, thats the point. Because got another son. Because he has got another son. And course, in the earlier days. Oh james, they they they were they jockeying for position. Murdoch is an arch manipulator. He loves the murdoch is an arch manipulator. He loves the power manipulator. He loves the power game , i suppose. And you know, game, i suppose. And you know, one just has to say hes not going to stop until someone decides theyve had enough of him. Mm. Mm. Its a its an interesting one. Its an interesting one that someone who is like that, i mean hes the last of his ilk. Do we think really. Yeah, it would be nice. Father died at 92 and it is that last of the gentleman. Yeah, the gentleman operates. Im not sure one would call Rupert Murdoch a gentleman, but that that generation. But we need to remember, too, that he gets away with seen as triumphant. With being seen as triumphant. But what it, nearly 1 but what is it, nearly 1 billion. Had to for . Billion. He had to pay for . I didnt quite understand the details of oh, yeah, well, it was was fox news was it was the fox news allegations about the voting machines, wasnt it . Yeah, thats right. 700 odd million. Yeah. That went to one company and hes very impressive i aman a man of your age retains all these facts. Know, wish these facts. You know, i wish i could, he. Could, but he. But you, david. When he but thank you, david. When he set up fox news, he said that the secret is tell people the secret is to tell people what want to hear, not to what they want to hear, not to bother to them the truth. Bother to tell them the truth. Information tell them what they want entertainment yes, exactly. And it became incredibly, incredibly popular. Exactly. The people, and i think of the people, the thousands of people hes employed over years, i think employed over the years, i think of the people know that of all the people i know that work and in tv and work in journalism and in tv and all of that. Think that hes all of that. I think that hes employed, you know, all employed, you know, weve all weve many, many weve all weve all many, many weve all taken murdoch pound at one taken the murdoch pound at one point or another. Exactly. But there you go. Im thats good exactly. But there you go. Im or thats good exactly. But there you go. Im or a thats good exactly. But there you go. Im or a bad thats good exactly. But there you go. Im or a bad thing, good exactly. But there you go. Im or a bad thing, but od exactly. But there you go. Im or a bad thing, but there thing or a bad thing, but there you go. Its just the nature of it. And is. 645. Lets just it. And it is. 645. Lets just remind you of our top stories this morning here on breakfast. Could be heading towards could we be heading towards a closer relationship with brussels . Thats what keir starmer appears want. Should starmer appears to want. Should he become the Prime Minister or so many . So say many . Rupert murdoch says hes stepping down as chairman of fox news and news corp after seven decades as and coming up shortly, the landlord whos owned a pub for Something Like 40 years and says its only cash if you want a pint. 40 years and says its only cash if you want a pint. Yeah. So if you want a pint. Yeah. So lets look at that in a bit more detail actually, because we all like a pint. But how do you pay for it . I remember being stunned for it . I remember being stunned for the first time. I could go to a pub and play with plastic, sort of quite convenient, but its not quite the same. And as the of living crisis the cost of living crisis continues , more and more people continues, more and more people apparently paying with apparently are now paying with cash is a clever way cash because it is a clever way of budgeting. Of budgeting. But can a pub in an increase difficult industry really continue to trade as a cash only business . Lisa hartle has more. Business . Lisa hartle has more. For 37 years, doug has owned and run the chequers pub in essex. Its a very traditional place and there is one constant hes kept in place. Whilst many businesses are now accepting card only payments , doug is cash only. It saves money doing cards. It saves money doing cards. They charge a fortune , but also they charge a fortune, but also with cash. I know exactly where with cash. I know exactly where i stand and if you serve somebody and then their cards declined, what happens . And theyve got no cash , you lose theyve got no cash, you lose out. So whats the reaction when people come in here and they see that you dont take card . I they that you dont take card . I they just ask where the nearest cash point is. And jenny, generally they come back some some dont. But thats alright. Theyll go down the road, theyll pay more. Their choice. A lot more people their choice. A lot more people are carrying cash because they know what theyre spending and with cards they dont know what theyre spending, especially when theyre tapping their phones and tapping the card and tapping this and tapping that. And they havent got a clue. Earlier this month, research by uk finance found that as cost of living concerns grow, the number of payments being made with cash rose for the first time in a decade , weve seen a time in a decade, weve seen a very long trend of reducing Cash Payments year on year. But last year we did see a small increase in the number of payments made. And as i say, we think that thats mainly due to some finding cash helpful think that thats mainly due to so them finding cash helpful think that thats mainly due to so them to finding cash helpful think that thats mainly due to so them to manageg cash helpful think that thats mainly due to so them to manage acash helpful think that thats mainly due to so them to manage a limited. Pful to them to manage a limited budget when the cost of living is increasing. But still is is increasing. But it still is the frequently used the second most frequently used payment the and Payment Method in the uk and indeed the rate which it indeed the rate at which it declines actually falling. So declines is actually falling. So cash becoming concentrated cash is becoming concentrated amongst those people who prefer to use it. And for those use cases where there arent so many alternatives. And do alternatives. And so we do absolutely expect cash to remain an the economy an important part of the economy in the challenge in the future. And the challenge for industry is making sure for the industry is making sure that we can still provide access to cash to those people who prefer it, despite cash prefer to use it, despite cash usage its usage increasing, its still card leading card payments that are leading the way. Damians been a customer of the pub for many years. The pub for many years. Bring cash. Ive i just bring cash. Ive usually cash anyway, usually got cash on me anyway, to so one of those its to be fair. So one of those its nice Old School Pub im only young thugs old school saying. Young thugs old school saying. So will doug ever relent and welcome a card reader alongside his till . I cant say never , but. His till . I cant say never , but. Ill i cant say never, but. Ill hold out as long as i can in lisa hartle gb news essex. Lisa hartle gb news essex. Well , i say good lisa hartle gb news essex. Well, i say good on him by, you know, two glasses of wine and a pint probably 20 or £30. Yeah. And dont you think youre emma wolfson . Just you saying how much cash would you need for a round . You jump would you need for a round . You jump the gun, emma. But youre so excited about it. Yeah, well, no, i havent been into a pub for years, and i havent drunk for years, but i was just thinking pints have gone pints, glasses of wine gone up. Pints, glasses of wine has in but. Has gone up in price. But. But dont you think thats interesting . If youre having cash, go up to cash, if you have to go up to the bar with 220 just to buy, you around for your you know, around for your friends, i think youd feel it more. Its too easy just tapping and a treat that and but its rather a treat that that cash is coming back. I mean, ijust find that cash is coming back. I mean, i just find it so i mean, ijust find it so depressing. The people whove done out the pandemic done best out of the pandemic and of that, but they never and all of that, but they never say anything about it. The people the credit card companies. They have coined it oh, yeah, they have coined it in and cant think of a less in and i cant think of a less deserving bunch. If we go back to cash, so if we go back to cash, i think its a good thing. I mean, i try and pay cash i still try and pay cash whenever ill go to the whenever i can. Ill go to the bank, draw out money, and bank, draw out some money, and then it in my pocket. Then ive got it in my pocket. I just dont feel easy about, you know, producing a bit of plastic for of coffee or something. The move , i mean, obviously the move, i mean, obviously gb news are massively behind this, the towards a this, but the move towards a cashless is appalling. Cashless society is appalling. I know really does shut the know it really does shut the bank such power, such power, such kind of, you know, if they want to, they see exactly want to, they can see exactly what were doing at all times. Want to, they can see exactly wishutsere doing at all times. Want to, they can see exactly wishutsere yeah. Which seems odd. Whenever the thing is electronic, what electronic, but thats what i suppose would claim. Suppose they would claim. Well. They claim yeah. Well. They claim materials and all the rest of it. I have to say i was guilty of. I went to a card shop the other day. One of these. Yeah they do cheaper cards. David. Ill tell you where. Cheaper cards, cheaper cards, i think. Birthday cards are a right rip off these days. I agree. And i bought a card it was £0. 87 bought a card and it was £0. 87 and paid for it on plastic. And i paid for it on plastic. Not because i didnt have it. Well, i didnt have any money. I didnt have any cash. I did. Didnt have any cash. So i did. I did feel quite bad about that. And year old doesnt and my three year old doesnt know money is really. All know what money is really. All he sees is mummy taking out a card, hes not going card, tapping it. Hes not going to understand. Ive tried to really understand. Ive tried giving a money box and doing giving him a money box and doing coins, but then are not coins, but then kids are not really understand really going to understand the link between money money we actually you with. Actually have and you pay with. But adults being but we adults are being encouraged give children encouraged to give our children their cards we their own cards, cards that we put them and they get put money on them and they get used paying for everything used to paying for everything with plastic. Think they think these i think they think these cards things that cards are just magic things that pay cards are just magic things that pay things actually, pay for things when actually, you earn money, you know, you earn that money, you know, you earn that money, you it, you put it. You take it, you put it. Do you remember you used to put into your account put it into your bank account and into your savings and put it into your savings account and then you would take it out . Account and then you would take it oll . Account and then you would take it 0 do worry actually, david, i do worry actually, david, about the next generation if they getting they if theyre not getting a grasp on money actually is grasp on what money actually is and that they could get and the debt that they could get into, right. Into, thats right. My youngest son, whos but my youngest son, whos now quite old, actually had to have you, i let him have to tell you, but i let him have to tell you, but i let him have a card that was parasitic on mine. Failed to me on mine. He failed to tell me that hed that hed that hed lost it, that hed reported it. So the next time i went in to buy some innocuous meal, remember where meal, i remember exactly where it soho. Not only it happened in soho. Not only did refuse my card, did they refuse my card, they confiscated it. Didnt cut it up in front it didnt cut it up in front of, know, but they sort of of, you know, but they sort of said, i couldnt have it back. And that because they and that was because they assumed, course, thanks to my assumed, of course, thanks to my brat, i was i was using an brat, that i was i was using an illegal car, stolen his card. Oh , i wouldnt mind having oh, i wouldnt mind having a parasitic card on your account. David. There you go. I wouldnt lose it, but ill tell you that those were the days. Give you a target. Now im just an impoverished old guy. You . Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There were briefly moments of economic. When i was economic. You know, when i was sort of. Yes, i was had a little bit of cash. But those days dont go. They are long gone. Dont go. They are long gone. Oh, thats a shame. Oh, thats a shame. But dont you remember opening a birthday card and having a fiver and a fiver in the card . Having a fiver and a fiver in the oh,i . Having a fiver and a fiver in the oh, brilliant. Thats lovely. Oh, brilliant. Thats lovely. That one the treats. That is one of the best treats. Yeah. Emma talking about yeah. And emma talking about what we spend our money on. Beauticians i mean, beauticians as well. I mean, well careful beautician. Youve got careful. Youve got to be careful. Call her a beautician. Call her an eyelash educator. Shes an accredited eyelash educator. Apparently, this is a bulgarian beautician, vanya gabrovo , whos one of four gabrovo, whos one of four bulgarians who are being charged at Westminster Magistrates Court on tuesday following allegations of spying for putin, spying for the russians and how would an eyelash educator learn anything . Well, that was of any interest. Putin thats her trade. Putin thats her trade. I dont know what else shes been doing in her in her life, but the other three men and another woman, when she flashes her eyelashes, maybe she or maybe she listens as shes doing the an the makeup. Its quite an intimate thing. The makeup. Its quite an inti itse thing. The makeup. Its quite an inti its probably what she does its probably what she does when she isnt actually at work. Suspect everybody has. Yes, i suspect everybody has that cover. Their know, that cover. does their know, that cover. does sound their know, that cover. does sound front heir know, that cover. does sound front. Eir know, it does sound front. I would fancy a new career as an eyelash educator and what about these . Im getting healy eyebrows, a magnificent healy. Yes. Oh, eyebrows are a huge thing. But i think someone said to me it means youre getting old because only old men have this. Why dont you trim them, david . Because i would. Because poke my eye out for something i do. Youll do it. Yeah, well, get them trimmed the next time. Yes, because now i look at my role model here. You do have well trimmed. I got my hair cut yesterday and luke said to me, do you want me to trim your. I like your eyebrows. I was like, oh, yes, please. So it does it all with a comb and a look before we love you you. You and leave you. To ask you about ive got to ask you about spam. The front page of the daily says spam is in daily star says spam is in trouble because were longer trouble because were no longer buying it. There are a lot buying it. And there are a lot of other Old Fashioned foods that from our that are disappearing from our supermarket because supermarket shelves because although you may think theyre old quaint, were just not old and quaint, were just not buying them enough to them going. When did you last have a tin of spam . I never had no spam. It looks revolting. Disgustingly revolting. Disgustingly revolting. We can all agree on that. But also aided by a sort of gelatinous goo. Yeah, but also on this list, a pot noodles. I bet you like ive never had a pot noodle. Youve never had a pot noodle . I have never. I have certain standards. Never lived pot noodle pot noodles fall the wrong side of the line without a gorman and like me. What about angel delight david have you ever had angel delight . Delight . Are we talking about something you eat . Yes oh, so blancmange, you remember a sort of pink or orange blancmange with hot water . No milk. Milk . No milk. Milk . No. No. Im glad to say i can find Dangerous Things to eat without getting quite that far. Oh, david, youve never lived. You come round to dixon towers. Well well give you a pot angel delight and smash. Pot angel delight and smash. Yeah, well smash toad in the hole. No, i did have smash. No, i did have smash. Oh, there you go. Yes. Brilliant stuff. Look, weve got to leave it there. Emma wolf, david mellor really good to see you. Well catch up with you a little bit later. Sure do stick with us. But right now, youll want to know all the weather. Aidan all about the weather. Aidan mcgivern your weather mcgivern has your Weather Forecast for looks like things are up. Are heating up. Boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast, but its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially, showers focussed initially, the showers focussed for central and for northern, central and western scotland, Northern Ireland, western england and wales. Best of the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will be across the midlands, Eastern England, eastern scotland, cloud will Eastern England, eastern scotlethrough cloud will Eastern England, eastern scotlethrough the cloud will Eastern England, eastern scotlethrough the day. will Eastern England, eastern scotlethrough the day. Thel build through the day. The showers transfer east showers will transfer east so that by afternoon it is that by the afternoon it is drying somewhat across drying up somewhat across Northern Ireland, west wales, devon and cornwall. But the showers are transferring east odd thunder possible odd rumble of thunder possible in england by end of in Eastern England by the end of the cool feel with the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday and its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward a then into the evening, showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely widely clear skies, lighter winds and as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday, widely mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as start off saturday in wind as we start off saturday in the far of scotland, the far north of scotland, Caithness Sutherland, shetland and odd shower and orkney seeing the odd shower elsewhere the uk. Its a elsewhere across the uk. Its a beautiful start to weekend. Beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty blue skies as cloud plenty of blue skies as cloud will into the afternoon , will build into the afternoon, but dry for the vast but it stays dry for the vast majority. It feel cool , but majority. It will feel cool, but given the dry and fine weather, a perfectly pleasant days expected looks like things are heating up. Box boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Well, we have plenty more to come for you, including all the latest on this. Keir starmer saga and what he said about europe. Is he indicating that he would good morning. Its 7 00 on good morning. Its 7 00 on friday, the 22nd of september. Today could we be heading towards a closer relationship with brussels . Well, thats what sir keir starmer appears to want. If he becomes Prime Minister. Catherine forster is following the story. Yes following the story. Yes keir starmer has said that he does not want to diverge from eu rules and regulations leading some to question whether brexit would be safe under a Labour Government. Government. Rupert murdoch says hes stepping down as the chairman of fox and news corp after seven decades. Well be looking back at his journey as one of the most influential global media moguls. The toast of france, the king and queen begin the last day of their royal visit. Our royal correspondent Cameron Walker is with them. Cameron walker is with them. After two successful days in paris , the king and queen will paris, the king and queen will be travelling to bordeaux this morning to visit a british run organic vineyard and highlighting links between highlighting the links between british French Defence as well. Il pla, doesnt it . In france 7 il pla, doesnt it . In france . But aidens got our weather. Its another day of dodging downpours, but it wont be an entirely wet weekend. Ill have entirely wet weekend. Ill have all the details in the forecast coming up. And paul has got the sport for us this morning. Well, perdita, i dont even know what that means. Liverpool, its all in europe. Liverpool, its all in europe. Liverpool, west ham and rangers will win in europe. And as far as the gulf is concerned, weve got the solheim cup. European women play against win against the usa, hoping to win the third solheim cup in a row and tee off in about 15 minutes. Lovely stuff, paul. Thank you. Im dixon. You. Im stephen dixon. Diamond. And and im anne diamond. And this is breakfast on. Gb news. This is breakfast on. Gb news. Well, save our spam has got you going across the uk this morning, glenn says. My ears perked up when you said spam might be leaving the shelves. I love spam fritters from iceland. Theyre absolutely delicious. I theyre absolutely delicious. I hope they stay around. Marie says. I always buy spam lite. Oh, and ive also seen frozen spam fritters in the supermarkets. Fritters in the supermarkets. Were even getting some response from down under this morning. Jim response from down under this morning. Jim in response from down under this morning. Jim in australia response from down under this morning. Jim in australia says morning. Jim in australia says spam is very popular in hawaii. Spam is very popular in hawaii. They go nuts about it. They call it hawaii steak, hawaiian steak i you could rename it, rebrand it and maybe wed buy it. Steve in solihull says , i had a fried in solihull says, i had a fried spam sandwich at the butty bar last week. Got a botty bar, a butty bar in solihull. Solihull is a bit posh, so if youve got a butty bar in solihull , he said a butty bar in solihull, he said it was amazingly good. First time ive had spam in many years. Wont be the years. Hopefully wont be the last. Can see its fried, last. I can see when its fried, it might be tasty because its so fatty it would fry up very well. Well, it would. Well. Well, it would. There you go. My necklace keeps moving. I quite fancy a chip butty. Actually. I was chip butty. Actually. I was offered a chip butty last night and i turned it down. Its like a crisp butty. I mean, there are things that are completely wrong put between completely wrong to put between two of bread, but. But two layers of bread, but. But theyre gorgeous, they . Two layers of bread, but. But thewrong. Rgeous, they . So wrong. Its right. Its right. Yes, exactly. Its right. Ies, exactly. Its right. I love actly. Its right. I love it. Tly. Its right. I love it. Keep your thoughts coming through. Gb views gbnews. Com this gbnews. Com our main news this morning, video clip that morning, the video clip that everyones talking about, its the leader, keir the labour leader, sir keir starmer. Was filmed week starmer. It was filmed last week and posted on social media and is being seen by some as confirmation that labour wants closer ties with the eu. He was actually speaking at a conference in montreal and he appeared convinced that to achieve a stronger britain, both the eu and the uk would need to work on common goals like Climate Change and immigration. This is what he said. This is what he said. Most of the conflict with the uk being outside of the uk anses uk being outside of the uk arises in so far as the uk wants to diverge and do Different Things to the rest of our eu partners. Theres of mostly the partners. Theres of mostly the more we share values , the more more we share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict and actually different ways of solving problems are become available. Problems are become available. You know, actually we dont want to diverge. We dont want to lower standards. We dont want to rip up Environmental Standards working standards for people at work , food standards people at work, food standards and all the rest of it. So suddenly youre in a space where, notwithstanding the obvious fact that we are outside of the eu and not in the eea, theres a lot more Common Ground than you might think. Lets head to our westminster studio and our Political Correspondent catherine forster. Morning , catherine. I mean, morning, catherine. I mean, wasnt divergence the whole point of brexit . Well, many people would say exactly that. It was we were exactly that. It was we were sold. Take back control, werent we, of our money, our borders and our laws. So many people would say, well, if were going to follow eu rules and regulations, then what is the point of brexit . Now labour would be quick to point out that we havent actually diverged yet, but the door is currently open now. I think a lot of what sir keir starmer was saying in montreal wasnt controversial in that. Yes, of course we need to work with our neighbours across in europe on shared challenges, but it was those five words, wasnt it . We dont want to diverge. That really has set the cat among the pigeons. Now the cat among the pigeons. Now the conservatives have come out and basically said brexit is under threat. A Labour Government would reverse brexit. Labour are saying no, absolutely not, we are out. We accept that, but we want to work on getting a better trade trade deal and of course labour here are very mindful theres a looming general election. All those red wall voters that went over to the conservative natives because they wanted to get brexit done, as Boris Johnson promised , that as Boris Johnson promised, that labour need to win back a lot of those voters if they are to get a majority in the next election. So they have a fine line to tread. And i do think there may tread. And i do think there may be some alarm bells ringing now among some of those voters about what labours real intention is are after what sir keir starmer there was recorded saying what if he did become the next Prime Minister . What do you think that would mean for the brexit problem surrounding. Northern ireland . Surrounding. Northern ireland . Honestly, i dont know that it would make much difference because as things stand, because we have kept the option to diverge the Northern Ireland is in the Single Market still of the European Union and subject to those laws , which means that to those laws, which means that there is this de facto border down the irish sea. Now rishi sunak when the Windsor Framework has said that its much less onerous than it would otherwise have been. But really, unless we have been. But really, unless we are going to go into some formal arranged with the eu to agree not to diverge , i cant really not to diverge, i cant really see things changing in Northern Ireland. And another point about Northern Ireland and the irish pm, leo varadkar is very sceptical of power sharing, getting back up and running any time soon. And chris heaton harris, the secretary of state for Northern Ireland, says that progress is inching forward. But the Democratic Unionist Party , of course, that unionist party, of course, that collapsed power sharing over their concerns about the relationship. This border down the irish sea are still not happy with the Windsor Framework at all. But its not just that it if and when they go back into power sharing, they will no longer have a majority party. It will in fact be sinn fein, who is the largest party, and that will be very difficult for them indeed. Okay, catherine, for now, thanks very much indeed. Thanks very much indeed. Youve been in touch on this one, actually. Do get in touch with your views. Phil has. Its the government that has not taken brexit seriously by refusing to get rid of eu legislation, has paved the legislation, it has paved the way for labour to and as good as makes little difference. Rejoin the eu. The eu. Christine says. We voted for brexit. What right has starmer got to try to get closer to the eu . Well, i guess christine, if eu . Well, i guess christine, if he if he says thats what he wants to do and then still gets elected, he take that as a mandate. So if youve heard what he said there, has it changed youridea he said there, has it changed your idea about the way you would vote in an upcoming general election . As usual, get in touch . And as usual, get in touch . Gb views views at cbnnews. Com. Gb views views at cbnnews. Com. Now the media mogul Rupert Murdoch says hes stepping down as chairman of fox and news corp. His eldest son, lachlan , corp. His eldest son, lachlan, will now lead both companies. In a memo sent to employees , in a memo sent to employees, murdoch said the time is right for him to take on different roles as he is set to transition to the role of chairman emeritus of both firms in november. Well breakfast dean spencer takes a look back at his seven decade run as one of the most influential men in the media industry. Industry. Mr mr born in melbourne in 1931, murdoch developed an interest in the media at a young age while at oxford university, he tried to buy the student newspaper. His father, sir keith murdoch. One of australias most distinguished newspapermen, died in 1953 and left the family a control share of a single adelaide news. Rupert returned from britain to run it aged 22. He quickly expanded the business, buying a string of other titles. But murdochs ambitions were global. In 1968, he bought the uks news of the world. The sun, and by 1986, the times and the sunday times, his papers were accused of political manipulation in a Television Revolution , followed as murdoch revolution, followed as murdoch went to on launch the Satellite Tv Service sky. But murdoch had tv service sky. But murdoch had his eye on a bigger prize and began to focus on the us, where he gained a foothold in 1976 with the tabloids. The New York Post in 1985. News corp bought 20th century fox. By the late 19805, 20th century fox. By the late 1980s, murdochs empire had racked up near crippling debts , racked up near crippling debts, but it survived. Murdoch faced further criticism in 2011 when journalists at his uk newspaper, the news of the world, were found to have hacked the phones of countless celebrities and of the murdered teenager milly dowler. Members of the house of Commons Culture Committee described him as a fit described him as not a fit person to exercise the stewardship major stewardship of the Major International company, the news of the world was no longer, and he sold his shares in fox and sky. But even with dwindling sky. But even with the dwindling empire, the murdochs family net worth currently estimated to worth is currently estimated to be 14. 1 billion. By forbes magazine. Magazine. Well, joining us now, australian political commentator and columnist andrew bolt. Good morning to you, andrew. Why what do you make of all of this . I mean, because hes not really stepping down, is he . Hes just taking a slight, slight stepping down, is he . Hes just taking a slight , slight step taking a slight, slight step back. Taking a slight, slight step back. Yeah back. Yeah yes. Well, part of this is, of course, to allow his son, lachlan to establish himself as the undisputed heir, because obviously there are family rivalries at play here. Um, maybe it would have been handier if hed been more definite about really stepping back, but he made it very clear in his message to the staff that he will be there even on friday afternoons in the office, ringing around. But i think the ringing around. But i think the focus, while its been largely on on Rupert Murdoch, this is really an attempt to cement lachlan there as the new under reputed boss of both fox news and the news empire of newspapers around the world. So thatis newspapers around the world. So that is what really is at stake here. And i think we should play very careful , look here. And i think we should play very careful, look very carefully to the reaction from James Murdoch , how he is, how he James Murdoch, how he is, how he is taking this news. Yes. I mean, of course, he started his empire there in australia, didnt he . What do australians think of this news today . Today . Well, i dont know. I mean, as long as the newspapers keep going and the sky news down here, not your sky news. Our sky here, not your sky news. Our sky news keeps going. Everyone will be happy. I dont know. Theres be happy. I dont know. Theres going to be a remark, you know , going to be a remark, you know, any noticeable transition in that you can you can that consumers will notice. And consumers will notice. And thats what rupert is trying to make clear as well in his in his latest statement. But the thing is, you know, roy , rupert is, you know, roy, Rupert Murdoch, what an astonishing career you mentioned there, stephen, how he started with a newspaper in adelaide. Youve newspaper in adelaide. Youve got to make make clear that adelaide is just like, you know , imagine newcastle, its nowhere near the hub of power. It was the second newspaper. There were just 75,000 readers and from that he has spun this enormous media empire around the world and has done that really by spotting big gaps in the ideological market. In particular, you recall when he went to london first buying up the sun and turning it this is 55 years ago into almost a weapon against the smug elites. Weapon against the smug elites. And that was his first dramatic statement. You know , were going statement. You know, were going to we wont bow down to the privileged enclaves anywhere, never. Privileged enclaves anywhere, never. And then 55 years later, never. And then 55 years later, were having spotted a similar gap in in america with fox news , which is his big moneymaking operation. And again, giving operation. And again, giving a smiting the unrighteous as smiting the unrighteous as smiting the unrighteous as smiting the elites and giving the ordinary person an alternative political view to the left wing sort of smothering blank of opinion that is whats really made him so powerful and so rich. And again, now now, he said in his announcement last night that, again, hes an enemy of the elites. Hes always been a revolutionary ever since he was at oxford and had a bust of lenin on his mantelpiece. Lenin on his mantelpiece. Im intrigued by your comments about lachlan and james, because obviously when james, because obviously when james was appointed the boss of sky here in the uk, however many years ago, that was now that caused a lot of ripples, didnt it . Because people were thinking lachlan would get that and he didnt. He seemed to have fallen out of favour and now its swung around the way. So what do around the other way. So what do we know about whats going we know now about whats going on family dynamic . Well on in the family dynamic . Well obviously theres been quite a few tensions over quite a few years. I mean, jay james has been hes on the left. Lachlan is a conservative. James is very much a Global Warming fanatic. Hes complained about the coverage of Global Warming issues by news by murdoch outlets, particularly mine and me. Personally. Guess but lack and of course represents more continuity with his father that they represent people that want a variety of voices on their on their outlets. And that includes conservative djs who are largely excluded from quite a few other media outlets, as australia has become known as where we seem to get our global media moguls from. I mean, youve got Rupert Murdoch , kerry packer and murdoch, kerry packer and others. Have you got any more in the pipeline we should be warned about lachlan may be what you mean. Its interesting. You know, its interesting. You know, the transition to lachlan is going to be interesting. Well, its been in the making for a while. You know, Rupert Murdoch is much as a force of is very much as a force of nature , really very out there, nature, really very out there, doesnt mind getting in front of a camera now and then and giving what for you know, speaking his mind a lot is much more introverted person. Its a great struggle to get him to stand in front of any camera. And i would front of any camera. And i would wish that hed project himself more. You might see him more , more. You might see him more, but he does share a lot of his fathers political views. And i fathers political views. And i think that is what has made him rather than james the heir apparent, because james is more, i think, a censorious type, which is really weird because that would be cutting really making damage to the to fox news. What are you going to do, censor that they would lose its Competitive Edge and the same with many other of the murdoch brands in australia for instance. You know, its that cheekiness that taking on the establishment, taking on a little bit like you guys are gb news you represent the kind of outlet, i think that Rupert Murdoch would have loved to have had. Well , had. Well, well take that as compliment. Really good to see you this morning, andrew. Thanks very much indeed. Appreciate it. Now, theres lots going on politically today and a lot of hoo ha over keir starmer, of course , and what hes had to course, and what hes had to say. Lets get the view of the minister of state for food, farming fisheries, mark farming and fisheries, mark spencer , who us this spencer, who joins us this morning. Really good to see you, minister. Morning. Really good to see you, minister. Can we ask first and foremost about keir starmer . Is he really saying, as the mail is saying today, hes letting the cat out of the bag on brexit betrayal or is he just working towards a better relation to create a stronger britain . Well create a stronger britain . Well i think thats one of the problems, isnt it . We dont really know what hes saying. Hes flip flopping about one minute hes saying he wants to have free movement, then the next minute hes saying he to control our borders. He wants to control our borders. He have a clear he doesnt seem to have a clear policy he seems to make it policy and he seems to make it up the hoof on occasion. So up on the hoof on occasion. So i think clearly its very difficult to define what he does for stand think he seems for. Stand and i think he seems to be, to me, obsessed in in getting into power, but doesnt really have a principle get really have a principle to get him there. I think thats him there. And i think thats the real danger of the labour party, isnt it only sensible to maybe not cosy up to eu countries, but at least to get an entente cordiale , which an entente cordiale, which clearly he was doing to become friendly with them, because we do have to do business, dont we . Well, and of course thats what were doing. Were doing business with our friends in the eu all the time. Thats why the prime was able to Prime Minister was able to negotiate the Windsor Framework to out the challenges of to sort out the challenges of Northern Ireland because he was able have those conversations able to have those conversations with friends eu. So with our friends in the eu. So having good relationships with our and our friends our neighbours and our friends next door of course is the right thing to do. But were not going to be ruled by them. Were not going to accept their rules. Were just going align were not just going to align because they changed their rules. Independent rules. Were an independent country. To stand our country. We need to stand on our own respect our own feet and respect our neighbours as they respect us. I mean, one of the Big Questions here is going to be, though, when people are looking towards the next election because, you know, the starting pistol been pistol might not have been fired, been loaded. We fired, but its been loaded. We know is on the on the know that much is on the on the europe issue, which is still very to a lot very important to a lot of people. Who do you vote for . People. Who do you vote for . Because were not really sure what stands for, what anyone stands for, particularly brexiteers arent happy with with what the conservatives done would have done with brexit remain is going to be happy with labour. A brexiteer is going to be happy with labour. Nobody knows. Nobody knows what do. Nobody knows what to do. So weve got to move on from those labels, havent we, of remain and brexiteer. I think weve got to acknowledge democracy happened. The country voted to leave the eu to the Prime Minister is delivering that brexit and now we are an independent country. Separate from the eu, but we can still trade with them and still cooperate with them, but on our own terms and i think thats the right relationship, the right balance. I think to keep balance. And i think to keep obsessing as labour party obsessing, as the labour party do, over brexit and looking back with sort of pink tinted spectacles and talking about following their rules , i think following their rules, i think just takes us back in time. Weve got to weve just got to get over the fact that we voted to leave the European Union. We need to embrace that, make the most of it as are doing. And most of it as we are doing. And stop sort of looking backwards as labour appear to as the labour party appear to want do. Want to do. Can just point you towards can i just point you towards the front of the guardian the front page of the guardian today . Says that campaigners today . It says that campaigners are planning huge legal are already planning huge legal challenges against rishi sunak, what theyre calling a u turn on green policies. There it is. He is very likely to come up against lawyers and a huge Legal Framework defending those green policies. Isnt he. Policies. Isnt he. So of course, i mean, lets be clear. We are committed to getting to net zero by 2050. Thats what we said we would do. Were going to do that as a modern leader in global politics. Were actually way in front of many of our leaders. Were actually cut our emissions higher than any other country in the g7. But of course, were the g7. But of course, were going to do that at a pace of which my constituents and a normal people can afford and can and can cope with. And i think what were seeing here is a pragmatic Prime Minister who understands what its like and the challenges that people are facing just saying, of facing. Just saying, look, of course going to get there course were going to get there , going to use , but were going to use technology, were going to use innovation not going innovation when were not going to through this huge to put people through this huge amount and expense , amount of pain and expense, which they cant afford. Which they clearly cant afford. And on the back of a global and the on the back of a Global Pandemic a war in europe, pandemic and a war in europe, its just pragmatism. And its just about pragmatism. And i think thats what get i think thats what you get from rishi as minister. Rishi sunak as Prime Minister. You a pragmatic common sense approach. And can i ask you about something within your remit . Because within the last sort of day or so, theres been this open letter sent to six supermarkets, hasnt there, by farming groups . Really, really concerned about how their treated, how suppliers are being treated. And i mean, a survey of british fruit and Vegetable Farmers found almost half, 49 are concerned theyre going to go out of business in the next 12 months. But particularly is an indie properly independent country. Now weve got to look after our farmers, havent we . Yeah absolutely. And they are. I mean, theyve done a very good job at keeping us well fed since the second world war. Weve got used to as consumers of having good quality, low , low priced food on quality, low, low priced food on our supermarket shelves now. So the system has worked very well for sort of 60 years, but i think it is fair to say there is a power imbalance and certainly as a government, weve been looking at weve weve looking at this. Weve weve done into the done an investigation into the dairy sector, for example, and were to legislate put were going to legislate to put in place, if you like, an ombudsman to look at some of those contracts within the dairy sector. Said well the sector. We said well do the same the sector as same within the pork sector as well. Were just starting to well. And were just starting to look and Fresh Produce, look at eggs and Fresh Produce, as indicated, within as you indicated, within horticulture, weve got horticulture, because weve got to have those farmers for the future. Theyve got to be future. Theyve got to be profitable and theyve got be profitable and theyve got to be able well fed. And we able to keep us well fed. And we need that balance of risk and reward spread evenly from primary the primary producer through the processor and the retailer. Mean, know its your job, i mean, i know its yourjob, but really think but do you really think politicians at westminster understand how difficult it is to be a farmer . You have to to be a farmer . You only have to look clarksons farm look at Jeremy Clarksons farm and a lot of farmers are saying, thank goodness, somebody at least very high profile in the media, able to show media, has been able to show ordinary people how incredibly difficult provide food difficult it is to provide food from our country. Do you from our own country. Do you think politicians generally at westminster understand. Westminster understand. So i think unless youve been a farmer, you dont actually know how difficult it is. And i know how difficult it is. And i know you mentioned jeremy clarkson, but i think jeremy is assisted by the fact that hes got a huge Television Company assisted by the fact that hes got a huge fundingn company assisted by the fact that hes got a huge funding some pany assisted by the fact that hes got a huge funding some of1y assisted by the fact that hes got a huge funding some of those behind him funding some of those exciting things he puts on the screen. Actually, you know, when youre there day and night youre out there day and night and is your livelihood at and it is your livelihood at risk and, you know, losing an animal a huge amount animal costs you a huge amount of future income. I think of your future income. I think then you understand the pressure that you are actually under. And it difficult. Youre it is very difficult. Youre battling youre battling the weather. Youre battling the weather. Youre battling the weather. Youre battling the challenges of selling that product for a profit. And it is very difficult profit. And it is very difficult. But lets be grateful that those farmers are out there day and night keeping us fed because theyve done it very well for theyve done it very well for the last 60, 70 years. And we need them to successful in need them to be successful in the continue to keep the future to continue to keep us fed and to continue to us well fed and to continue to look after our environment and, you know, sometimes we take that for granted, dont we . You know, those beautiful rolling landscapes in north landscapes we see in North Yorkshire and the brecon beacons, only there beacons, theyre only there because farmers have because of the farmers that have sculpted the sculpted that landscape in the way theyve produced way in which theyve produced ourwell, your job to look well, its your job to look after isnt it, though . After them, isnt it, though . Yeah yeah, yeah. And thats what were doing. Thats why were investing literally £2. 4 billion a year of taxpayers is going taxpayers money is going into our sector. Taxpayers money is going into our sector. You taxpayers money is going into our sector. You know, i our farming sector. You know, i take something i take very seriously. Were developing new schemes those farmers to schemes to help those farmers to invest in new technology, to also look after the environment to and continue to produce food. Thats why we are investing all of that cash. And were were constantly listening and helping and supporting and trying to work out ways in which we can work together. But what we are seeing in this country, and i know its slightly because slightly convoluted because there supply there are different supply chains, rest of it, but chains, all the rest of it, but we are seeing this massive food inflation is affecting inflation now which is affecting so many badly in this so many people so badly in this cost of living crisis. How much of this do we think is down to trussonomics and that that disastrous budget in liz trusss short tenure as pm so not at all. This has been coming for a very long time. I think global population is continuing to increase piece on the back of that weve got the challenge of Climate Change and then if you throw into the mix a Global Pandemic and a war in europe, thats whats really driven down the price of energy and of food through the roof. Thats why im through the roof. Thats why im saying we need to invest in our farmers in our uk Food Producers to make sure that they have the best technology, the best stock, the best techniques and of course, taxpayer support to continue to produce this great food. And thats what the government is doing. We constantly talk to the nfu, to the cla , to farming the cla, to farming representative groups so that we understand the challenges that theyre facing and we can help and support them because we want them to produce food. Of them to produce food. But of course to look course we want them to look after environment at after the environment at the same and those things go same time. And those things go handin same time. And those things go hand in hand. Before we let you go, one of the of the star this the front page of the star this morning talking about old morning is talking about Old Fashioned which going fashioned food, which is going out things like out of fashion. Things like spam. Right apparently spam. Right which apparently were so i want you were not buying. So i want you to be absolutely 100 honest with mark spencer, and give with me. Mark spencer, and give me. Yes or no answers to these. Have you got these in your food cupboard . Either in in london or in your constituent c spam. In your constituent c spam. Okay. Have you got spam bovril no, corned beef . Bovril no, i dont think ive got bovril. No. Corned beef. I may well have rice pudding, but. Rice pudding. Yeah i definitely will have rice pudding. Yeah semolina. Yeah. Tinned semolina. Yeah. Tinned peaches. No, not a chance. Tinned peaches . No, i do like fresh peaches, to be honest. You know 7 peaches, to be honest. You know . I mean, i am blessed in that my. The farming business at home has a farm shop, so we have access to a lot of Fresh Produce. And i think. Good answer. Im very im very lucky in that respect. So im guessing you havent got smash. Got smash. Absolutely not. Ive got a shed full of potatoes. Well angel delight. Ive not got i angel delight. Ive not got i mean , youre actually talking mean, youre actually talking about quite a lot of processed food here. Yeah, its processed. Yeah, its processed. Yeah, its processed. So we do need to try and we need to move people in the direction of eating Fresh Produce if we can. Forever the politician. And heres last one. And you heres your last one. And you better say yes this better say yes to this pot noodle. Noodle. Pot noodle. Ive got. Ive got a cupboard full of pot noodles. My teenage kids. Yeah. Good man. Noodles. My teenage kids. Yeah. Good man. Im pleased to hear that. Mark spencer, really good to talk to you this morning. Thanks very much indeed. Thanks very much indeed. You didnt ask him if he had couscous, couscous , as i get couscous, couscous, as i get told,i couscous, couscous, as i get told, i get told off when i say couscous. Couscous. Couscous. My mother says its couscous i s s no, s no, its couscous. S no, its couscous. Is it couscous . Well shell be watching you, though. Well, im sorry. I think its couscous. I dont know. But i also get told for off saying boubon biscuit. Apparently its bourbon. Bourbon . Yeah i said bourbon. Bourbon . Yeah i said bourbon. Well, youre being a bit too french. Maybe yeah, but weve also learned that Lachlan Murdoch probably lachlan, murdoch is probably lachlan, havent we . After speaking to an aussie this morning. So there you are, lachlan. Well try and get that right in the meantime, lets see whats happening weather wise for you today. Heres aiden. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hi solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hi there. On. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. With the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however there are around and theyll develop widely through theyll develop widely through the day. Initially the showers the day. Initially the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland. Northern ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will across the midlands, will be across the midlands, Eastern England, eastern scotland. The cloud will scotland. But the cloud will build the build through the day. The showers will transfer so showers will transfer east so that afternoon soon it is that by the afternoon soon it is drying across drying up somewhat across northern wales, Northern Ireland, west wales, devon cornwall. But the devon and cornwall. But the showers transferring east showers are transferring east odd of thunder possible odd rumble of thunder possible in england end of in Eastern England by the end of the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday at and its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward. And then into the untoward. And then into the evening showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely while only clear skies lighter winds and as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday widely mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland, caithness, sutherland, shetland and orkney seeing odd elsewhere seeing the odd shower elsewhere across the its a beautiful across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty of blue skies cloud will into blue skies cloud will build into the afternoon, but stays dry the afternoon, but it stays dry for majority. Dodi. It for the vast majority. Dodi. It will feel cool, but. But given will feel cool, but. But given the dry and fine weather , a the dry and fine weather, a perfectly pleasant day is expected. Expected. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news up solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news up. Well have more on the royal visit there in bordeaux today. Thats the king and queen. Our cameron is with them. Youre watching breakfast on gb news 734. Morning to you. Yes morning. Morning to you. Yes morning. And the king and queen have beenin and the king and queen have been in france doing an entente cordiale and going down very well. Actually. Theyre in bordeaux this morning where is also our royal correspondent, Cameron Walker. Lets find out Cameron Walker. Lets find out whats going to go on today. Hi there, cameron. Hows it going . Oh, still raining. Oh, still raining. Its still raining. Ill we have had awful luck with the weather and the king and queen seems to have brought the british weather with them. Nonetheless, it has been a very warm welcome from the king and queen paris over the last few queen in paris over the last few days. From french days. Everyone from french citizens french senators citizens to french senators and the and president macron and the first lady of france as well. And you only have to look at the reaction to his speech in the senate yesterday, the first british monarch address the british monarch to address the senators in chamber. The senators in the chamber. The standing ovation lasted for a minute and half before the minute and a half before the king could sit down. That just gives you an idea of how pleased the senators were with his speech, talks about the speech, where he talks about the french tributes his late french tributes to his late mother, Queen Elizabeth and mother, Queen Elizabeth ii. And i unprovoked i quote, the unprovoked aggression from the russian invasion of ukraine. But securing he has been incredibly tight here. Thousands of Police Officers on the streets. I have never seen anything like it from covering royal visits and journalists whove been doing this a lot longer than i have have been saying the same thing because you remember six because if you remember six months the building behind months ago, the building behind me, hall, was set me, bordeaux town hall, was set alight. Was me, bordeaux town hall, was set alight. Was fire in flames alight. It was on fire in flames over french riots due to over those french riots due to those Pension Reforms or sparked by those Pension Reforms. And the french governments were forced ask the king forced to ask the king to postpone his visit here. Postpone his state visit here. Pretty embarrassing for them. But were very happy but nonetheless were very happy that going now. But that its going ahead now. But that its going ahead now. But that why the security that is perhaps why the security is so tight here. The french government want this to go without a today in without a hitch today in bordeaux, the king and queen will be visiting a british run vineyard, an organic vineyard which uses solar energy and develops Carbon Capture. So something that king charles is really keen and passionate to go and visit. Theyre also going to and visit. Theyre also going to be joining a reception on a Royal Navy Frigate in the in the ports here in bordeaux, highlighting the links between british and French Defence because, of course, both countries are part of nato. But to start off with his majesty and the queen will be here in Bordeaux City Centre, having an official welcome from the mayor official welcome from the mayor of bordeaux. Lots of schoolchildren singing and all sorts. So lots to look forward to this morning. Lovely stuff, cameron, thank you very much indeed. Keep that brolly the meantime, brolly up. In the meantime, lets a look through the brolly up. In the meantime, lets this a look through the brolly up. In the meantime, lets this morning. Irough the brolly up. In the meantime, lets this morning. Paul] the brolly up. In the meantime, lets this morning. Paul coyte sport this morning. Paul coyte is here. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Liverpool, west ham europe last ham and rangers in europe last night won. We had aston night they all won. We had aston villa lost at villa lost, brighton lost at home athens and an. Ive home to aek athens and an. Ive been working on it for you. Oh yes. Because i wanted to know what the aek stands for. It is athlitiki. Enosi. Konstantopoulos. Enosi. Konstantopoulos. Oh well. Oh well. Which is athletic of which is Athletic Union of constantinople. And the reason constantinople. And the reason its constantinople is because the greco turkish war from 1919 to 1922, the greek refugees that then moved back to greece and thats where they started the team and that is why it is named as it is. I love it. I love it. Im bored already. Okay, lets talk rugby. Okay. Rugby world cup. Where all the home nations are in action. I mean, some games action. I mean, some great games coming up. Owen farrell returns after ban from member from after his ban from member from the hes been the high tackles after hes been banned he comes banned for four games. He comes in, that george ford, in, but that means george ford, whos brilliant for whos been brilliant for england, that hes england, means that hes left out of him. But the out instead of him. But the games weve got england versus chile, which is on saturday, ireland, which is going to be a huge against south africa, huge game against south africa, which is probably the two finest teams the world cup weve teams in the world cup weve seen so far. Scotland against tonga sunday. And been seen so far. Scotland against tongoff sunday. And been seen so far. Scotland against tongoff sounday. And been seen so far. Scotland against tongoff so often, and been seen so far. Scotland against tongoff so often, especially een told off so often, especially last week. Why have you not mentioned wales . Why have you not yeah. Whereas not mentioned. Yeah. Whereas wales a huge for them. Wales is a huge game for them. Theyre to be playing theyre going to be playing australia got by fiji theyre going to be playing austweek. Got by fiji theyre going to be playing austweek. Eddie by fiji theyre going to be playing austweek. Eddie jonesby fiji theyre going to be playing austweek. Eddie jones , fiji theyre going to be playing austweek. Eddie jones , is iji theyre going to be playing austweek. Eddie jones , is he last week. So eddie jones, is he the real deal for australia . The the real deal for australia . The australians think. Australians dont think. Like anything its almost like anything could in rugby, it . Could happen in rugby, isnt it . We shall see. We shall see. Absolutely. Absolutely. And sweet hour. Short and sweet this hour. Paul well up with you paul but well catch up with you in an hour. Thanks very much indeed. We have a packed programme for you next time for the headline makers here on gb news breakfast. And were joined by former chief secretary to the treasury david mellor and the writer and columnist emma wolf. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Lets start with something cheery, david, in the telegraph this morning. Tax cuts sound great and virtually impossible. Impossible. Virtually impossible. Virtually impossible. Front page of the telegraph. It says theyre virtually impossible. Impossible. Well, thats going to cheer us think its inevitable well, i think its inevitable because is what has happened under this government is theyve lost control of public expenditure. And the problem expenditure. And the problem also is that if you are not if youre borrowing money because youre borrowing money because youre not actually paying for what youre spending, youre lumbering future generations with the cost of it all, well then you get a situation where you have the government has to borrow to balance the books and eve because the money that theyre talking about is so huge. Huge. Theres still a suggestion that hes 10 billion better off than he thought he was going to be. Yeah, but but yes, you see borrowing so far this financial year, 69. 6 billion is 11. 4 billion less than predicted by the office for budget responsibility. But i budget responsibility. But i think thats because a lot of these people play with figures, but they dont actually necessarily get the fundamental totals. But is this can there be expectation management into a headune expectation management into a headline like this . Because presumably theres going to have to be a promise of a tax cut before the next election that that how could a man like you become cynical . Become so cynical . But i mean, i think but yes, i mean, i think youre right about that, because theres no doubt about it. You know, if its wonderful story about winston churchill, who never used his cigar until he got ready to go off onto the platform to deliver a speech to an excited crowd , and he stuck an excited crowd, and he stuck a huge cigar in his face, lit it up and said, never forget your trademark. Think thats what happened. Think thats what happened. And the trademark of the tories is pipe, isnt it . Yes well, he apparently used to use his pipe in order to have thinking time when he was asked a tricky question. But the point is, the tories have a trademark. But under under this lot the tories trademark has become confused. It seems to be lets confused. It seems to be lets spend more than labour could. And i think that if, if, if, if , if the tories dont have a few rabbits to pull out of a hat that appear to be proper tory rabbits, not spurious rabbits, which theyve suddenly dragged in poor things from some cage somewhere in to order give themselves a chance, the traditional tory tune that the pubuc traditional tory tune that the public they can sing and the pubuc public they can sing and the public can hum is tax cuts. Yeah well talking of all things political david you to hang with us just for a sec because were going to talk liberal democrats now because theyre starting their autumn conference. Theyre going to set the scene the general election scene for the general election campaign. Talking about campaign. Theyre talking about health care, of course, which is going to be whats important to all of us, isnt it . Yes well, of course is. Lets well, of course it is. Lets go the liberal democrat go now to the liberal democrat spokesperson education, go now to the liberal democrat spokermunira education, go now to the liberal democrat spokermunira wilson. ation, go now to the liberal democrat spokermunira wilson. A ion, go now to the liberal democrat spokermunira wilson. A very good whos munira wilson. A very good morning. Thanks very much for joining us. Yes. Health obviously is always been a lib dem major subject, hasnt it . Dem major subject, hasnt it . Are you going to be saying anything new, though . Anything new, though . Well, well be setting out our plans to ensure that every every body has the right to see a gp within seven days. Well also be setting out plans to improve the nations Public Health so that people stay healthier for longer and therefore are less needing to go to our hospitals where we already see huge waiting lists. And lets not forget the liberal democrats were at the forefront of setting out plans to help our social Care Workforce as well , social Care Workforce as well, to ensure that we can relieve pressure on the nhs too. Yeah, well, wed all love to see a gp within within seven days, but how do you actually arrange that . We havent got enough gps. I mean, theres no magic switch for that, is there . No, of course these things take time, but there are various things that can be done in terms of trying to support out those who perhaps left the workforce. Who perhaps left the workforce. For various reasons to come back in. Whether thats encouraging, more part time working, but also to boost training places in order to make sure that were training up more gps for the future. The problem is weve got to come up with Long Term Solutions to the challenges facing our nhs and ensuring that people can get to see a gp face to face. You know, i have an elderly mother whos got lots of complex health problems. Shes constantly battling to see a gp face to face and its really frustrating for her. And actually if she could sit down with a gp face to face when she needs to, that would probably stop a lot of the additional appointments she ends up having and ending up in hospital unnecessarily. Thats the sort unnecessarily. Thats the sort of thing that we have in mind. Yeah. Im sure a lot of our viewers and listeners actually empathise with that. Since your brief is education, can i just ask you about rishi sunaks plan on for a level reform . He says on for a level reform . He says theyre not. Theyre not good enough. Theyre not fit for purpose at the moment. And the mood is from the sound of it to change it to a baccalaureate. Change it to a baccalaureate. What did you think of that . What did you think of that . Well, i mean, what ive heard rishi sunak say is that everybody should study maths to 18, which is a laudable plan. And but but frankly, we just dont have the teachers to do it. Liberal democrats are going to be setting out a really ambitious, positive vision for our schools this weekend and for early years, childcare and as part of that, we are we have been were calling for and ive been were calling for and ive been calling for some time a cross Party Approach , working cross Party Approach, working with teachers and professionals to look at our exam system to indeed look at Something Like a baccalaureate style qualification. Because when you qualification. Because when you talk to parents, when you talk to pupils and indeed when you talk to employers , they say that talk to employers, they say that quite often our young people are not arriving with the sorts of skills that they need. The new sort of the problem solving , the sort of the problem solving, the creative thinking skills that we needin creative thinking skills that we need in this highly technological world with the ai revolution, the knowledge and the skills that our young people are often gaining and not really getting them ready for the workplace. And also young people want to have a broader curriculum and then narrowed very, very early. But well be setting out a really ambitious plan to make sure that were helping all young people catch up and also really importantly, something that ive been campaigning on for a very long time is to make sure that every child living in poverty has access a Free School Meal so access to a Free School Meal so that can turn up to that every child can turn up to school happy, healthy ready school happy, healthy and ready to learn. To learn. Okay, munira wilson, weve got leave there, but got to leave it there, but really good to talk to you this morning. Thank very much morning. Thank you very much indeed. See what david indeed. Lets see what david mellor wolf of all mellor and emma wolf make of all of that inspired emma, by the way, i didnt hear anything concrete health or on education. I worked educational i worked in educational publishing ten years. How publishing for ten years. How many i have seen many times i have seen successive governments raising the reforming the exam the issue of reforming the exam system, making it more like the back. Its happening again and again and again. Do you know what . What about focusing on the education that we Education System that we currently banging currently have not banging on about its yes about the exams . Its great. Yes if they get students if they can get students carrying on with maths and engush carrying on with maths and english up to to 18, that english up to up to 18, that would a laudable aim they would be a laudable aim if they can make us all ready for the ai revolution. But thats just a mish mash. Thats lot of mish mash. Thats a lot of Different Things going on there. What the children and the what about the children and the younger as well and younger children as well and early ones early years . What about the ones in whove been out of in school now whove been out of school what, two, three school for, what, two, three years . W f there are so many i mean, there are so many fundamental, i mean, there are so many fundamental , fundamental things fundamental, fundamental things to before start saying to fix before we start saying this glamorous thing this wonderful, glamorous thing about this wonderful, glamorous thing aboyou can the back if youre you can do the back if youre very wealthy, go to a very wealthy, you can go to a private in london do private school in london and do the thats what you the back. If thats what you want do, you can go to the want to do, you can go to the french school, the french, lisa, whatever. Thats not the problem. There are far, far more. Is that the more. The problem is that the buildings buildings buildings arent buildings falling strike. Falling apart on strike. Yes. Yes. Many eam eam and many younger children not getting Free School Meals, which and many younger children not ge also Free School Meals, which and many younger children not gealso aee school meals, which and many younger children not gealso a scandal,l meals, which and many younger children not gealso a scandal, david. S, which is also a scandal, david. Well, i not advised it well, i was not advised it was part of contract to have was part of my contract to have to listen to this and then comment on it. I know. Mean, i am here to i know. I mean, i am here to read papers, so to be honest read the papers, so to be honest with catching up with with you, i was catching up with a bit of shut while she was a bit of shut eye while she was talking and i didnt hear anything was saying anything that she was saying that made me feel i was missing much. Much. Well. On extremely harsh. Well. On extremely harsh. Have no opinions on this i have no opinions on this matter whatsoever. A bit the sky and very a bit pie in the sky and very woolly. And yes, its not woolly. And yes, its not exactly the start. Cooper i mean, daisy cooper says its starting pistol the its the starting pistol for the general election. Bit of general election. Yeah, a bit of a of more of a whimper than a sort of more of a whimper than a bang. Could you done maths to could you have done maths to a level . Did you . I did. You did. Oh, well done. Im. Oh, wait a minute. Master a level. No, i think i got whatever you get at seven. , no, and he was the oh, no, no. And he was the chief when i ran out of fingers, i problems. Chief when i ran out of fingers, i i problems. Chief when i ran out of fingers, i i was lems. Chief when i ran out of fingers, i i was sons. Chief when i ran out of fingers, i i was so delighted to drop it. Me too. It. Me too. I it. Me too. I mean, i it. Me too. I mean, i was. I did me english to do stuff like that and history because. And geography. That was a great one. Yeah. Yeah. The wafflers like me, geography. Geography was the big thing. Oh, i didnt like geography. Oh, i didnt like geography. No, i didnt like it. But it was not difficult. Oh, i see. Oh, i see. Itsjust oh, i see. Its just taught you just taught badly it was i in taught badly or it was i in those days. I cant think nowadays of anything more exciting than geography. We do. Well, yeah. No, i mean travelling and learning about countries and people. Not people. Yeah. Not the way it was. Yeah. Not the way it was. The geographers i knew were sent to towns and were sent off to dull towns and were made do little traffic made to do little urban traffic because this is, i can tell you because this is, i can tell you because living the isle because living down in the isle of purbeck , by the way, do visit of purbeck, by the way, do visit the isle of purbeck, folks. Beautiful, beautiful english weather. I only caught the flu three times this last week. Anyway you walk studland beach and walk along studland beach and youre having a nice time and suddenly a bunch of kids come out of the nearest sand and out of the nearest sand dune and theyre doing sort of some kind of geography field trip. And im of geography field trip. And im thinking, why dont they go and do it somewhere else . Oh, no, come on, at least theyre out. Theyre out. At least theyre outside and out and about and looking at and looking for fun. Yeah, that thats bad. You know, classroom with old know, classroom with poor old things me dont want kids things like me dont want kids leafing out of sand dune. Well, no, be. That no, no, but they should be. That comes a shock. Comes as a shock. Absolutely. Absolutely. Can we dont know what our can we i dont know what our what our timings are here, but i think weve got time to talk about this lost oil painting. Oh, go on. Because it was a constant. Oh, this is an amazing story. Uplifting this is uplifting story. This is a constable, detail. You know, constable, a detail. You know, the by constable, the the haywain by constable, the big masterpiece. Most famous. The most famous. The most famous. Dont know. The most famous. Everybody know. The most famous. Everybody knows the haywain. Youll you see it in youll know it if you see it in that in that painting country landscape. Landscape. Oh, very nice. Yeah. In that masterpiece there is a little house called willy house which is called willy lotts house. Of willy and this painting of willy lofthouse been found in lofthouse has been found in guernsey. Bought by an guernsey. It was bought by an anonymous buyer for £200,000. The guide price was 100 was 80 to 120,000, and it was found in guernsey. Very, very exciting. Guernsey. Very, very exciting. It was found in a sort of dusty corner of a dining room in a terraced house. But do we know why and how . But do we know why and how . It was just there . Maybe it was passed down through the generations someone generations and someone a private so it will remain private buyer. So it will remain in guernsey. In guernsey. Ill tell you what, i want a good rough haul through your house, david, because i bet youve got something. Shall we . Shall we . We do. We do. We do. Oh, dont say. Oh, dont say. I mean, i do collect stuff. I mean, i do collect stuff. You actually. You actually. Do you . Oh, i do. Do you . Oh, i do. Do you . Oh, i do. Oh, id love to be you all the bloomsbury if youre interested in 18th century engush interested in 18th century english porcelain, im the man for you. Told a woman that was my i told a woman that was my hobby. Said not very masculine hobby, is it . Its. Its art. But its. Its art. But its. Its art. What does it matter . On lovely. Theyre definitely coming you coming down. David well, you better check bags on the better check your bags on the way out. Thats i can say to you. Thats all i can say to you. Thats all i can say to you. Absolutely. See you two thats all i can say to you. Little olutely. See you two thats all i can say to you. Little bittely. See you two thats all i can say to you. Little bit later see you two thats all i can say to you. Little bit later on. See you two thats all i can say to you. Little bit later on. Yeah you two a little bit later on. Yeah no, lets catch up with the weather. Heres aiden. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially, the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland, Northern Ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine will be across the midlands, Eastern England , eastern Eastern England, eastern scotland, but the cloud will build the the build through the day. The showers transfer east so showers will transfer east so that by the afternoon it is drying up somewhat across Northern Ireland, west wales, devon and cornwall. But the showers transferring east showers are transferring east odd thunder possible odd rumble of thunder possible in england by of in Eastern England by the end of the day. Cool feel with the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday. And its going with yesterday. And its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned. But nothing untoward. Then into the evening, showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely widely clear skies , completely widely clear skies, lighter winds. And as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday, widely mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland, Caithness Sutherland, shetland and odd shower and orkney seeing the odd shower elsewhere across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty of blue skies cloud will build into the afternoon, but it stays the vast majority stays dry for the vast majority. It will feel cool, but. Dodi. It will feel cool, but. But given the dry and fine weather , a perfectly pleasant weather, a perfectly pleasant day expected. Day is expected. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers proud sponsors up. Boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news now you of weather on. Gb news now you know here on gp news it is all about you. Its all about the Great British public where members of the Great British public as well. We are, all of us. So coming up in just a moment, were going to meet our brand new Peoples Panel so were getting real peoples views on the stories of day. The key stories of the day. Thats happening in just a thats all happening in just a moment. Could we be heading towards a closer relationship with brussels . Well, thats what sir keir starmer appears to want, should he become Prime Minister . Catherine forster is following the story. The story. Yes, keir starmer has been caught on camera saying that he does not want to divert from the eu , begging some to wonder eu, begging some to wonder whether brexit would be safe under a Labour Government. Under a Labour Government. The toast of france , king the toast of france, king charles and Queen Camilla begin the last day today of their royal visit. Our royal correspondent Cameron Walker is with them. Thank you. With them. Thank you. Well, the rain certainly wont be dampening the king and queens spirits when they arrive in bordeaux later highlights include a visit to a british run organic vineyard and highlighting the links between british and French Defence. Coming up, how worried should the Prime Minister be about a by election in tamworth next month . Well be hearing your views with our Peoples Panel of local business leaders. Local business leaders. And while it rains in france, lets find out whats going on here. Heres aiden. Its another day of dodging downpours, but it wont be an entirely wet weekend. Ill have all the details in the forecast coming up. Coming up. And pauls got the sport for us this morning. Thats not funny. West thats not funny. West liverpool , west ham and rangers liverpool, west ham and rangers all win in europe. Liverpool, west ham and rangers all win in europe. And actually all win in europe. And actually europe are losing at the moment in the solheim cup, which is in malaga. But its very, very malaga. But its very, very early days in the golf, so nothing to worry about. Lovely stuff, paul. Thank you. Im stephen dixon. Good morning. And good morning. And this is breakfast on gb news. Were talking about Old Fashioned foods this morning and nearly because spam is apparently going out of fashion. Neil in morecambe oh, i love morecambe. Happy mount park and all that sort of thing. Used to go to the lights. I dont think ive ever been to morecambe. Yeah. Good morning. Love it. I love spam , says love it. I love spam, says neil. But have you seen the price of it . It used to be an economical food, now its a luxury priced item. Yeah, like corned beef. Corned beef. Yes, corned beef is going up as says. The other as well. John says. The other day was in supermarket and day i was in a supermarket and i saw only shrinkflation, but saw not only shrinkflation, but i saw a tin of corned beef i also saw a tin of corned beef costing nearly £4. I nearly had a heart attack. Robin watford said the boomer generation spam so that our generation ate spam so that our children dont have to. Children dont have to. Because it was the oh, because it was the wartime food , wasnt it . Yeah, wartime food, wasnt it . Yeah, its was also sent to its tinned. It was also sent to , know, our troops overseas , you know, our troops overseas because was tinned again. At because it was tinned again. At least was nutritious , least it was nutritious, probably open a tin of wartime spam now and itd be all right. Do you think . I dont know about that. Jane do you think . I dont know about that. Jane says hubby and i love peck. Peck thats chopped hammond pork , similar to spam, hammond pork, similar to spam, but more juicy. Juicy. We love but more juicy. Juicy. We love it in a sandwich with beetroot chutney or piccalilli. I always used to make ham and egg pie with it as well. Yummy well, theyre lovely. Old fashioned foods, though, arent they . And apparently we are buying fewer and fewer of them now, which means theyre not being made. So much and they will probably disappear in the end from our supermarket eventually. Disappear in the end from our supernthatt eventually. Disappear in the end from our supernthat be eventually. Disappear in the end from our supernthat be a eventually. Disappear in the end from our supernthat be a problemitually. Disappear in the end from our supernthat be a problem . |ally. Would that be a problem . Yeah, well, i think if theres. Oh, can i read out the one from australia as well because aussie beths been in touch, weve about carp. Aussie beths been in touch, we met, about carp. Aussie beths been in touch, we met, we about carp. Aussie beths been in touch, we met, we might about carp. Aussie beths been in touch, we met, we might meett carp. Aussie beths been in touch, we met, we might meet it arp. Aussie beths been in touch, we met, we might meet it later we met, we might meet it later on the program. Actually the on in the program. Actually the pub only take pub where they will only take cash. Beth says a few cash. Aussie beth says a few days ago, while i was waiting for a train at sydneys largest station, husband to buy station, my husband tried to buy a coffee. Not single a cup of coffee. Not one single cafe restaurant or mobile cafe stop would accept cash after he gave them all a piece of his mind, he went to a small independent shop on the outside of the building and found it full of customers where cash was accepted. It may be a very silly thing to refuse cash. Thing to refuse cash. Yeah, dont refuse. I mean, you do see it. I see it on shops all the time. Now, what do kids do if theyre just buying something for a pound or. I was going to say but is there anything say £0. 50 but is there anything for anymore . Say £0. 50 but is there anything for no, anymore . Say £0. 50 but is there anything for no, itdnymore . Say £0. 50 but is there anything for no, itd be 1ore . Say £0. 50 but is there anything for no, itd be £1e . Say £0. 50 but is there anything for no, itd be £1 mix now. It no, itd be £1 mix now. It used to be a £0. 10 a mix back. Cant, they must be they cant, they must be using cash surely you think so. Anyway, let know. And anyway, let us know. And i dont if gb news. Com cash dont know if gb news. Com cash is still up and running for our dont kill cash campaign. You might to up might still be able to sign up to petition i dont. To the petition there. I dont. I dont know. But weve handed it so heres another good one. So heres another good one. One more. Says, i went into one more. Jan says, i went into my local cook shop week in my local cook shop last week in tunbridge street and took tunbridge high street and took my purse out for the cash to pay for it. Refused take for it. They refused to take cash. I for it. They refused to take cash. I that it is still cash. I argued that it is still legal tender, they said they legal tender, but they said they hadnt legal tender, but they said they hadnt cash for over a hadnt taken cash for over a yeah hadnt taken cash for over a year. Cottage pie on year. I left the cottage pie on the counter. Well, for you. Dont well, good for you. Dont blame either. I mean, blame you either. I mean, i dont think you can force them to take but, i mean, it to take cash, but, i mean, it just seemed ridiculous. Is our currency. Is tender. Currency. It is legal tender. You actually pay with it. Ridiculous. Well, thats what our campaign was all about. Well, indeed. Keep your well, it is indeed. Keep your thoughts coming through. Vaiews gbnews. Com. You may have something to say about this as well. The clip that well. Its the video clip that people talking about people are talking about this morning. Labour leader, morning. Its the labour leader, sir starmer. Was filmed sir keir starmer. It was filmed last and is seen by some last weekend and is seen by some um as confirmation that labour does want closer ties with the eu. He was actually speaking at a conference in montreal and he said or at least he appeared convinced first that for a stronger britain , both the eu stronger britain, both the eu and the uk would actually need to work on common goals together, like Climate Change and immigration. Lets hear what he actually said. He actually said. Most of the conflict with the uk being outside of the uk anses uk being outside of the uk arises insofar as the uk wants to diverge and do Different Things to the rest of our eu partners. Obviously the more we partners. Obviously the more we share values , the more we share share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict and actually different ways of solving problems are become available. You know, become available. You know, actually we dont want to diverge. We dont want to lower standards. We dont want to rip up Environmental Standards working standards for people at work, food standards and all the rest of it. So suddenly youre in a space where notwith standing the obvious fact that we are outside of the eu and not in the eea , theres a lot more in the eea, theres a lot more Common Ground than you might think. Think. Lets head to our westminster studio and catherine forster. Ill tell you what strikes me, catherine, on this is the idea that with diverge science, with coming up with our own legislation on the environment and human rights and everything else, and keir starmer is indicating that he believes ours will not be the legislation will not be as good as eu legislation. Is he talking britain down . Well, hes saying, isnt he, that he would not want to lower standards for workers rights for the environment . Et cetera. And as labour are pointing out, we havent actually diverged yet from eu regulations. But the from eu regulations. But the point is that the door is open for us to do so. So i think in many ways a lot of what he said wasnt very controversial in terms of working with the eu. They are our nearest neighbours on common challenges, but it was those five words we dont want to diverge. That i think is really going to cause us problems. The conservative party are already saying are. This are already saying are. This shows labours true colours. They want to basically take us back in to the eu. Now labour are saying very clearly, on no, no, we understand that were out, were absolutely out. Were not going back in. But yes, we do want a close trading relationship, but of course brexit supposedly take back control of our laws, our borders and our money. If we dont diverge , many people will think, diverge, many people will think, well, what is the point . And i think keir starmer speaking in a more unguarded way than weve seen before. Hes been very careful over the last couple of years in what he says about brexit because of course theres a general election around the corner. He was the sort of arch remainer before he became labour leader. He ran the charge for the second referendum. Um, but hes very aware that labour needs to win back a lot of the labour voters that went over to the conservatives in the red wall in 2019 on a promise to get brexit done and so i do wonder whether these words are going to cause some alarm bells to start ringing among some of those voters about what labours intentions really are regarding brexit. Do you think he actually meant for these words that he said to sort of go so public because he was speaking all right. I mean, he knew cameras were there because it was a sort of streamed confer once, but it was very much for sort of left Wing Canadian ions, wasnt it . It was it was a meeting of Progressive Centre left leaders. It was held in montreal last weekend. I suppose he had very much had the sense that he was among friends and like minds. So i suspect that he wasnt being as careful as as he is when hes in the united kingdom. But of course its been picked up now. It took a few days. He made these comments on saturday and these comments on saturday and these comments on saturday and these comments were broken in on broadcast media late on yesterday. Day and labour are yesterday. Day and labour are saying, well, basically theres nothing to see here. Were out of the eu. We understand that. Of the eu. We understand that. But the very fact that hes saying we dont want to diverge, i think does raise all these questions. You know, anybody that thought we were done with talking about brexit, i suspect that in the run up to the next general election, were going to hear a whole load more about brexit. And i suspect that the conservative party will try to weaponize this, this and try to capitalise on a fear of what labour would do about brexit if and when they get into government. Yeah, well, its another dividing line to fight on, isnt it . Catherine, thanks very much indeed. Ill tell you what i find extremely confusing for those of you watching , watching those of you watching, watching rather than listening is youll see it all, says canada 2020, all behind them. And thats what all behind them. And thats what we have to put the little thing on to say, well, weve got the footage. The clip wasnt three years old. Its not three years old. Its the name of the of the conference. But its very confusing. It is very confusing. It is very confusing. We have to check and double check and recheck this morning. So definitely isnt three so its definitely isnt three years old, is it . No, its just from called 2020. From saturday called 2020. You go. Right yeah. There you go. Right well, go a couple who well, lets go to a couple who are very best for are doing their very best for french entente cordiale, and thats the king and queen because its their last day in france. Theyre going begin france. Theyre going to begin their bordeaux today, their trip to bordeaux today, where expected to meet where theyre expected to meet with communities affected by last years wildfires. Yes, theyre also going to enjoy a little bit of wine tasting. I bet they dont spit it out. You know, dont know. It it out. You know, dont know. It always a waste. Always seems a waste. Be very genteel sit. Must be a very genteel sit. Must be a very genteel sit. Anyway, theyre doing must be a very genteel sit. At anyway, theyre doing must be a very genteel sit. At ainyway, theyre doing must be a very genteel sit. At a sustainablere doing must be a very genteel sit. At a sustainable vineyard. That at a sustainable vineyard. And in bordeaux, its all in bordeaux, where there are 40,000 brits. Apparently yeah. Who knew . Lets cross now to our royal correspondent, Cameron Walker. Hes live in bordeaux for us this morning. Bordeaux for us this morning. And raining. Im and its still raining. Im sorry about that, cameron, but whats going on today with the king and. Queen king and. Queen yes. And i might take a little trip to the vineyard myself later. If the rain keeps going on. But the king and queen have got a really packed schedule here today in bordeaux. It very successful it follows two very successful days in paris, where they are warmly welcomed by french people, and the people, senators and the president and first lady of france as well. And you only have to take a look at the standing ovation the king received following his speech inside the Senate Chamber yesterday. British yesterday. The first british monarch to deliver a speech inside the Senate Chamber. For a minute and a half, he had to remain standing for the clapping to conclude, he paid tribute to his mother and also spoke about the unprovoked aggression of russia following the invasion of ukraine. Now security here in france has been incredibly tight , but thousands of police on the streets are lots of security checks and sniffer dogs and the like. And if you remember, around six months ago, the building behind me, bordeaux town hall, was set alight on fire during those riots sparked by french Pension Reforms. And by french Pension Reforms. And thatis by french Pension Reforms. And that is the main reason really , that is the main reason really, why the french government asked the British Government to postpone the king and queens state visit here to france. Very state visit here to france. Very embarrassing for the french government. But now it is going government. But now it is going ahead. The government. But now it is going ahead. The security very tight and really it and theyre really hoping it goes hitch. So far it goes without a hitch. So far it certainly has done. Now today in bordeaux, as you mentioned , bordeaux, as you mentioned, there are quite a lot of brits living here. The town is actually twinned with bristol in the united kingdom. And the king the united kingdom. And the king and queen visiting and queen will be visiting a british sustainable british run sustainable vineyards and organic vineyards, which uses solar energy and develops Carbon Capture as well. All but i mentioned something that the king said in his speech yesterday about the unprovoked aggression of russia, and the king is going to be making a point of meeting french and British Armed service personnel, highlighting the links between our two nations, particularly when it comes to nato. Theres going to be a reception on board a british frigate later on in the port here in bordeaux. His majesty and the queen also expected to look at the impacts of the devastating forest fires that happened last year in the bordeaux region. Region. So lots bordeaux region. Region. So lots of Climate Change sustainability engagements here for the king and queen. But before all that, theres official welcome here theres an official welcome here in a very bordeaux city in a very wet Bordeaux City Centre from the mayor of the town. And theres going to be town. And theres going to be performances and lots of crowds are expected. Are expected. Cameron, youve been stood out the rain for several days out in the rain for several days now in various parts of france. And yet you seem ive got to be honest, you seem invigorated on this on this visit. Honest, you seem invigorated on this on this visit. What i mean this on this visit. What i mean is that the sense that is coming across is there like a i dont know, its almost like the king and queen really coming to their own our closest neighbour. Own with our closest neighbour. I think they certainly are. You just have to look at the walkabouts that the king and president macron did in france over the last few days. And everywhere they went, there were crowds willing to stand in the pounng crowds willing to stand in the pouring rain to greet them at the king and the queen at various receptions, trying to give them little toy crowns , give them little toy crowns, crowds waving their union flags as well. I crowds waving their union flags as well. I think crowds waving their union flags as well. I think they really as well. I think they really have received a really warm reception here in france. Of reception here in france. Of course, the king, the last king of france, lost his head in the 17005 of france, lost his head in the 1700s and was kicked out of the palace of versailles 200 years ago, which was the location of a magnificent state banquet hosted in the british king and queens honour by the president of france. A few days ago. So they really have quite literally and metaphorically rolled out the red carpets here in france. Red carpets here in france. Yeah, ill tell you what, its fascinating to note because were watching removal men or something behind you where are you . In something behind you where are you . In bordeaux. Whats that big building . So the building behind me is bordeaux town hall. As i mentioned, that was the building of those famous pictures that were set on fire dunng pictures that were set on fire during the riots six months ago. You may just be able to make out some charred but the some charred stones. But the reason lots of removal, reason theres lots of removal, men builders here because men and builders here is because theyre erecting of stages theyre erecting lots of stages in town square. Were in the town square. Were expecting a Youth Orchestra to be performing on today. Be performing later on today. Theres going to be schoolchildren, im told, lining the route of the king and queens arrival. And there, as i said going a ceremonial said, going to be a ceremonial official. Welcome from mayor official. Welcome from the mayor official. Welcome from the mayor of bordeaux as well. I dont think its going to be on quite a grander scale as the arc de triomphe ceremony where the president france welcomes the president of france welcomes the king officially a few days ago. But think its going to be but i think its going to be a quite intimate affair, quite a more intimate affair, maybe, also i think it will maybe, but also i think it will give king and queen chance give the king and queen a chance to more french people and to meet more french people and indeed who live indeed british expats who live here. Cameron, thank here. Okay cameron, thank you very indeed. Here. Okay cameron, thank you venapologiesieed. Here. Okay cameron, thank you venapologies fori. Here. Okay cameron, thank you venapologies for the sound just apologies for the sound just in that last little rain has finally got to his microphone. I think it has. I think it has. Do you know what . Its a tough i always this with tough i always say this with cameron because he always seems so well because his youthful. Yeah great job. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis| great job. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis a great job. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis a great great job. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis a great job, reat job. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis a great job, but job. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis a great job, but its. Well, so well because his youthful. Yeis a great job, but its avell, it is a great job, but its a tough job, isnt it . I mean, to be stood out on a pavement in the rain for hours and hours. It is hard actually. But hes he just it. You can tell he just loves it. You can tell he loves it. Yeah, hell writing books yeah, hell be writing books soon everything, wont they . Soon and everything, wont they . Well, correspondents soon and everything, wont they . Well, corthey ndents soon and everything, wont they . Well, corthey doents soon and everything, wont they . Well, corthey do become become royal. They do become royal their own right, almost royal in their own right, almost dont they. And i dont dont they. And they i dont know. They learn a about the know. They learn a lot about the sort things that we find sort of things that we find fascinating and they end up fascinating ing and they end up writing being royal writing books and being royal commentators. They commentators. And i think they have, know, good have, you know, a really good afterlife life even after theyve after theyve given up those endless hours standing those endless hours of standing outside and whatever, outside palaces and whatever, talking about amazing events and i think cameron will be brilliant at that, dont you . Its that what i love about it is its that you get that sense of enthusiasm from him , sense of enthusiasm from him, which is lovely to see because we all know whether youre a bit cynical not, if royal comes cynical or not, if a royal comes to visit town, youre out to visit your town, youre out there. You stood there, you there. You stood there, you know, along line with your know, along the line with your flag all the rest of it. Flag and all the rest of it. I mean, i love it. I love it. Id love to. When i saw the king on coronation and i was just in coronation day and i was just in a spot just on own a little spot just on my own because the was sort of because the press was sort of moved to one so i was moved to one side. So i was a little spot just on my own and gave him and the queen a wave and they sort of looked at me. They didnt wave back. Absolutely. It was absolutely. It was just it was that lovely. Ive only been a royal ive only ever been a royal correspondent that was correspondent once, and that was in the time of in Sydney Harbour at the time of the bicentennial. In Sydney Harbour at the time of the bicentennial. And prince the bicentennial. And Prince Charles and Princess Diana were there on the Royal Yacht Britannia and all these beautiful old ships were bobbing around on the harbour and i was up there in taronga zoo. Good morning, australians. And i was morning, australians. And i was commentating and then channel 9 or 1 commentating and then channel 9 oh of commentating and then channel 9 or 1 of the commentating and then channel 9 oh of the big, big australian or 1 of the big, big australian tv channels said shell do because they didnt have a royal correspondent to be able to talk about the whole thing, about what it was like to be prince and princess di, Princess Diana and princess di, Princess Diana and on the royal and Prince Charles on the royal yacht everything. They yacht and everything. So they hauled studio and hauled me into a studio and i spent all day being a royal correspondent just gossiping about was about the royals. It was brilliant. Fab. Brilliant. Absolutely fab. They paid you probably i dont know. It was probably i dont they probably didnt. But it was just fun to be be doing what Cameron Walker is doing now for his career. You see, we should be media moguls, shouldnt we . Because weve been in the business a long time. Yeah, a long time. Yeah, a long time. We a of stuff. We know a lot of stuff. We know a lot of stuff. And in australia a long time. Well, yes, but ill tell you what, were not actual media moguls. Rupert murdoch is probably the only big left there. And the only big one left there. And hes hes hes Just Announced hes stepping as chairman fox hes Just Announced hes step news as chairman fox hes Just Announced hes step news corp. As chairman fox hes Just Announced hes step news corp. Hishairman fox hes Just Announced hes step news corp. His eldest1 fox hes Just Announced hes step news corp. His eldest son, ox and news corp. His eldest son, lachlan, is going to lead both those in memo which those companies in a memo which was all employees, was sent to all employees, murdoch the time is right murdoch said the time is right for to take on different for him to take on different roles as he is set to transition to the role of chairman emeritus of both firms from mid november. Yeah , well, breakfast dean yeah, well, breakfast dean spencer takes a look back now at his seven decade run as perhaps the most influential man in the media industry. Media industry. Prior to ah, well, we cant hear that. Yeah, there you go. Hear that. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, well, it is interesting, though, because he started his life. A lot of people think it was a rags to nches people think it was a rags to riches story, but its not. No, he came from a very well to do family in adelaide and then set up his business really just by buying a local newspaper. Well, his dad was in papers as well, so he sort of he was he built on that and gradually became very, very well known in australia. He had too much political influence . Well , thats the thats the well, thats the thats the question, because every whatever you every time theres a you think, every time theres a general election, its the sun. What one, what one, it apparently whether it or not apparently whether it was or not really people in the really but people in the industry in britain think it might be maybe not now because hes clearly going to keep some. Oh, of course he is a big influence on what son does. Influence on what his son does. Yeah, but when in the end he may well pass to the great newspaper industry in the sky where therell be lots of media moguls arguing about things. I guess arguing about things. I guess they think that lachlan isnt so interested in britain and may well wind down british interests, including, for instance , selling the sun. But instance, selling the sun. But thats for another day. Thats for another day. The time is the time still one of his. It must be the times is still owned by by news corp, news corp anyway, so itd be interesting to see what happens. Well keep an eye on of well keep an eye on that, of course, details emerge course, as Little Details emerge over coming months in the over the coming months in the meantime, should we see the meantime, should we see what the weathers for weathers going to do for you today . Is aiden that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. With the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there , but a fresh start out there, but a bright for of us. Bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland , northern western scotland, Northern Ireland, england and ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will across the midlands and will be across the midlands and eastern eastern Eastern England, eastern scotland. Will scotland. But the cloud will build day. The build through the day. The showers transfer east so showers will transfer east so that afternoon soon it is that by the afternoon soon it is drying up somewhat across northern west wales, Northern Ireland, west wales, devon but the devon and cornwall. But the showers are transferring east odd rumble of thunder possible in Eastern England the end of in Eastern England by the end of the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday at and its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward. And then into the untoward. And then into the evening showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely while widely clear skies lighter winds and as a result, all the ingredients are there for a cool start to saturday. Widely mid to high single figures but in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland. Caithness, sutherland, shetland and orkney seeing shower elsewhere seeing the odd shower elsewhere across uk. Its a beautiful across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty of blue skies cloud build into blue skies cloud will build into the it stays dry the afternoon, but it stays dry for vast majority. It will for the vast majority. It will feel cool, but given the dry and fine weather, a perfectly pleasant day is expected. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. It is 822. And up next, this is, as you know, the peoples channel is, as you know, the peoples channel, where you get to have your say. So next, were going to head up to tamworth, where a by election is due. So how are voters there feeling . This is gp news on your tv onune this is gp news on your tv online and on your. Radio its 826. This is breakfast with stephen and an online on your tv. On your radio. The by election for the parliamentary constituency of tamworth will take place in just under a months time. This comes after the resignation of chris pincher. He lost his appeal against an eight week suspension over groping allegations. Allegations. Well, our West Midlands reporter jack carson is in tamworth with our Peoples Panel today. Good morning, tamworth with our Peoples Panel today. Good morning , jack. What today. Good morning, jack. What are you going to be up to . Who are you going to be up to . Who are you going to be to . Talking well, good morning to you both. Welcome to this Peoples Panel here in tamworth. Of course, this is the home of whats going to be the home of a by election in a few weeks time. Of course, after those allegations of Sexual Assault with and then with chris pincher and then being by house of being suspended by the house of commons, means this commons, which means this constituency here in tamworth is without so that without an mp. And so that by election in a few weeks time is going to decide very much the future of this constituency. And future of this constituency. And the people here have lots of issues they issues of course that they are worried they want worried about, that they want changed and lots of of changed and lots of things of course that they want to see happen. Is deep happen. Tamworth itself is deep in course, with in its history of course, with the being the Saxon Capital the once being the Saxon Capital with mercia as well as being a key norman stronghold in 1834. Sir robert peel, of course, the creator of the police force, wrote the tamworth manifesto here then for a by election weve got a by election again. Now how safe is this seat for the conservatives has been a conservative stronghold , ed, but conservative stronghold, ed, but were here with a Peoples Panel this morning to find out what the that matter to them the issues that matter to them are and what theyre thinking when election. When it comes to that election. In time. So come and in a few weeks time. So come and meet the panel now. This is the Advantage Business Network group. Meet here two group. They meet here every two weeks essentially discuss weeks and essentially discuss business all kinds business and discuss all kinds of local issues together as a group. They started out with just three members. In three months, theyve got over 100. So its really great to be with you this morning. Thank you very much, everyone, for letting me interrupt meeting interrupt your meeting this morning. Come to morning. Chris, lets come to you your mp, chris you first. Your mp, chris pincher was suspended from the house of commons. Do you feel like youre in a position where youve lost trust in politicians now . The short answer is yes. Yeah, i think for a while we felt massively underrepresented. I think it stems from and chris was a good , a good mp for chris was a good, a good mp for us for a long time and since his role got more in depth in government, we tend to forgotten, been forgotten about. And i think im not just the only one that thinks that. I think thats a feeling of many time. Worthians yeah. Chris shane sorry, do you make make of sorry, what do you make make of that and the fact that you are having to face this big decision in weeks time of choosing in a few weeks time of choosing your next . Mp yeah, its i think as chris echoed what chris said, you not been you know, weve not been represented years. Represented for many years. Chris a Christopher Chris did do a christopher pincher, for pincher, did a great job for many years. And then as he many years. And then as he climbed in parliament, we seemed to be forgotten about a little bit. You know, and as a business bit. You know, and as a Business Owner and as a family man who lives in tamworth, you know , we lives in tamworth, you know, we need someone to lead us to help guide us and to represent us in parliament. And we dont feel like were getting that. So hopefully the next mp will do that for us. Yeah martin you were telling me earlier we were having earlier when we were having a chat this morning that chris pincher good you. Pincher was a good mp for you. Just tell us a little bit about kind of your thoughts on him and kind of your thoughts on him and kind of your thoughts on him and kind of where you now. Kind of where you are now. Yeah, mean, its been said yeah, i mean, its been said just now that, you know, for many years he did a great job. We saw lot of him. He we saw a lot of him. He represented tamworth extremely well, but recently weve lost that. Know, weve now lost that. You know, weve now lost him. Were now faced with a choice of a new mp and we need someone thats going to come in and really understand tamworth, want to do a great job, see what the potential of tamworth is because it is huge. Weve got problems, but we need someone to help us and improve things, lead us forwards and go to the next stage. Yeah, and of course a big part of that is trust. Now sue, you were telling me earlier that youre part of a Facebook Group in the area which is helping to try and tackle things like crime. I mean, what could a future mp for this area do to help make you feel safer in help you make you feel safer in this area . I think really, to be honest, its get police its to just get a police presence, a Constant Police presence, a Constant Police presence our presence within tamworth, our local Station Police station is has been closed down and theres one i dont know about five miles out of the three miles out of the town centre. And just Walking Around the streets, you know , or the centre of town, know, or the centre of town, its just not safe. There are groups of people drinking etcetera , which every town has, etcetera, which every town has, but then theres nobody to control that. So it just needs control that. So it just needs to be safe. We just need a presence of police. Considering sir robert peel, you know, brought in the police force and we in tamworth, we havent got any police present at the moment, so that would help us a lot, please. Yeah. Brogan i mean how safe do you feel walking down the streets now . Oh, i m. Mm oh, i dont like it, especially in the town centre. I avoid coming to the town centre if have to because dont if i have to because i dont feel safe. Dont go to the feel safe. I dont go to the castle grounds because i dont feel safe with my kids there. Its busy and i feel safe its busy and i dont feel safe there just to let run off there just to let them run off and play. Yeah, no, that and play. So yeah, no, its that anti social then. Anti social behaviour then. Yeah. Stuff i see on yeah. And its stuff i see on like Facebook Groups and things like Facebook Groups and things like ago, fine , like that. Ten years ago, fine, we an issue with we wouldnt have an issue with it its just kind of had it now its just kind of had a slow decline, especially since the police stations closed down and seem be and there doesnt seem to be people have lost faith in them and even reporting incidents and not even reporting incidents to because they dont see to police because they dont see the doing it. So the the point in doing it. So the Community Feeling unsafe with community is feeling unsafe with the seeing stuff and reporting it on facebook instead of reporting to the police. Yeah. So shane , i mean, you were so shane, i mean, you were part of setting this whole group up. As we said, you went up. Now, as we said, you went from to 100 members. Tell from 3 to 100 members. Tell a little about what the work little bit about what the work this group does, but how this group does, but then how maybe what would maybe a future and what would you youd want to from you what youd want to see from a future mp in terms of supporting business here in the area . Yeah, think its important yeah, i think its important to out that tamworth has to point out that tamworth has huge potential, you know, from a commercial city point of view and a business point of view. We felt as a group when we set this up that we werent being represented and we decided that this would be up to this group would be set up to represent local Business Owners. Local Business People give them a place to vent, a place to come and get ideas and a place to do business. And whilst we didnt have anyone representing us in the town as an mp to do that, we took it upon ourselves to do that. Weve grown quite rapidly, quite quickly, but it would be fantastic to have an mp that would come and join us, come and see the best interest of the businesses that are here because we are the heart of the community at the end of the day. So support would be really, really from an mp. Really good from an mp. Thats it. Support for yeah, thats it. Support for business across sectors. Of business across sectors. And of course since covid as course we know since covid as peoples retail habits have changed, i guess footfall peoples retail habits have chithe� d, i guess footfall peoples retail habits have chithe� d, i gstreet footfall peoples retail habits have chithe� d, i gstreet is footfall on the high street is particularly suffered many particularly suffered like many towns country, towns across the country, tamworth the same tamworth is having the same problem. Youve problem. I mean, chris, youve run kinds of businesses as run all kinds of businesses as well. Of course youre a co founder this group as well. Of course youre a co fci nder this group as well. Of course youre a co fci mean, this group as well. Of course youre a co fci mean, what group as well. Of course youre a co fci mean, what could as well. Of course youre a co fci mean, what could an mp well. I mean, what could an mp do help the high street here . Do to help the high street here . I think the first thing that they actually show they can do is actually show themselves. Weve weve gone for so long having somebody so long without having somebody that at door that we can knock at the door and to an office and raise and go to an office and raise the problems with the person thats going to represent us in parliament. So being visible is one of the first thing, but also understand what it that understand what it is that residents and Business Owners alike to get from the town. Alike want to get from the town. What they want to get from what do they want to get from that support for me as a Business Owner, its knowing about funds that are available. Its knowing about how i can apply its knowing about how i can apply for funds. Its knowing about can get my business about how i can get my business to a wider mainstream rather than local. Something with than just local. Something with direction. Somebody with direction. Somebody with direction would that direction would bring that to us. We set the advantage us. When we set the advantage network, tamworth up, we made the conscious decision that it was going to be based on relationships because relationships because relationships for us is how you do business. We want an mp that gets that and i think if we do have the right person, as the guys have mentioned already, weve got so much potential in this town, theres so much history, theres so much so many entrepreneurs in the town that just want to do well. We just just want to do well. We just need a bit of direction on. Thank you. Yeah, thank you so much. Well have to leave it there for the moment. But of course, we are here all morning. Well be getting more views from Peoples Panel here from these Peoples Panel here in as face that in tamworth as they face that by election in a few weeks time. Lovely stuff, thanks lovely stuff, jack. Thanks very indeed. It is going to very much indeed. It is going to be important by election. Be an important by election. Lets have a at all the lets have a look at all the candidates that election in candidates for that election in tamworth drew cooper tamworth and drew cooper from the conservatives, Sarah Edwards tamworth and drew cooper from the ctheervatives, Sarah Edwards tamworth and drew cooper from the cthe labours, Sarah Edwards tamworth and drew cooper from the cthe labour partyah edwards tamworth and drew cooper from the cthe labour party ,| edwards tamworth and drew cooper from the cthe labour party , sonny ds from the labour party, sonny burke from the lib dems , dr. Sue burke from the lib dems, dr. Sue haworth from the green party, and richard kingston. As an independent. As an independent. Ian cooper from reform uk and ashley simon from britain. First party if you want a sports party. Paul coyte is here with all the details. Always ready for party. Morning. Start with a little bit of football. We should mention liverpool and west ham and rangers all all did well in europe yesterday. Aston villa and rangers all all did well in eur so yesterday. Aston villa and rangers all all did well in eur so goodzrday. Aston villa and rangers all all did well in eur so good. Day. Aston villa and rangers all all did well in eur so good. And aston villa and rangers all all did well in eur so good. And alsor villa and rangers all all did well in eur so good. And also brighton not so good. And also brighton as well. Who lost at home . Three as well. Who lost at home . Three one they lost at home. But theres sport which is going on as we speak. Oh, is there solheim cup. The solheim cup, which is i dont want to call it the womens version of the ryder cup because is its own cup cup because it is its own cup and been going since 1990. And its been going since 1990. But its the its the but in effect, its the its the same thing its against same thing. Its europe against the states. So it started the United States. So it started already. And its the foursomes now. Now the foursomes. That now. Now the foursomes. That means that there is one ball, but two plates. So you share a ball basically , like youre ball basically, like youre following me, know , why do you following me, know, why do you share a ball or do you take turns . Yeah, you take turns. Yeah, you take turns. So its an alternate shots. So thats thats the force thats thats real team that is absolutely. So you start with the foursome and its the same with ryder cup as well. You with the ryder cup as well. You have foursome, you have the have the foursome, you have the four as well. Theyre four ball as well. So theyre always first two days. So four ball as well. So theyre alw. Foursome st two days. So four ball as well. So theyre alw. Foursome is two days. So four ball as well. So theyre alw. Foursome is alternate so four ball as well. So theyre alw. Foursome is alternate shots the foursome is alternate shots with and then you have with one ball and then you have the four ball and then you have the four ball and then you have the singles right at the very end. Basically you get end. And then basically you get a you win the a point should you win the match. Now, far as the match. Now, as far as the foursomes are concerned , and foursomes are concerned, and with the ryder cup now, we had billy, didnt we have billy foster on the show yesterday . Our great caddy and theres been some problems because with the fourball, if you imagine with the foursomes, should say, you the foursomes, i should say, you may use a different ball to what i would if we were paired up. You might use one brand of ball and i would use the other because theyre different. They are very different. But its teamwork. Youve got compromise. Youve got to compromise. Youve got to compromise. Teamwork. Got to its teamwork. Youve got to compromise. The compromise. And this is the thing the cup is what thing with the ryder cup is what theyve doing is actually theyve been doing is actually using other. Who using each other. I mean, who would have thought using each others ball so they can get used because you cant used to that because you cant used to that because you cant use own ball. Use your own ball. Youre confusing change choice of ball. Absolutely. In between. Between. No, you cant. No, you cant. Because i was going to say, you could then work it tactically, couldnt you . Absolutely partner is absolutely if your partner is going theyre good going to play and theyre good at long shot. Yes. Whatever at the long shot. Yes. Whatever you call that, drive. You call that, the big drive. Yeah. Favour yeah. Then they might favour a particular ball. Im particular ball. Yeah. Im getting excited about this. You know what . Making perfect sense you are making perfect sense because there are certain balls that will actually longer that will actually go longer than get soft balls, than others. You get soft balls, you who have you get hard. Who would have thought hard balls all different shape. Thought hard balls all different sha but you take one shot. But then you take one shot. But then you take one shot. Theyre all the same. Theyre all the same. You only take one shot, though. So confused. So confused i but then you take one shot and then your partner is landed with whatever shot you gave her. Thats right. Yeah, thats how it yeah, thats exactly how it is. So then you have to work very much as team, whereas very much as a team, whereas with four ball, then you with the four ball, then you have each. Have a ball each. I think thats it. The only thing does that make sense thing does that make any sense whatsoever to thats good. Whatsoever to me . Thats good. Makes me want to get it makes me want to get a High Definition television though, need one, though, because youd need one, wouldnt got one, havent you. Youve got one, havent you. Youve got one, havent you. It might be hd, but its oh, it might be hd, but its little. Nothing like the little. Its nothing like the size of the enterprise. Do. You remember you do. You remember they had the a 3d tvs were very. Oh yes, i had one of those. Oh yes, i had one of those. And theyve sport on it really hasnt because all of a sudden everything and they were starting in 3d and starting putting sport in 3d and football. Starting to get football. Youd starting to get a bit dizzy and get a headache. The that really the one thing that it really worked with for me was golf, because you see the because then you see the undulations the green, undulations on the green, etcetera, was really etcetera, and that was really good. Its but the good. But even then its but the computer very on golf computer is very good on golf now, you know, it shows you the trajectory ball and trajectory of the ball and absolutely, absolutely brilliant i l n k i never knew you were. Knew i never knew you were. Knew i never knew you were. I just noticed that has i just noticed that golf has suddenly im suddenly become exciting and im going do more golf going to have to do more golf because i can see the exciting. Im going to have to get a bigger telly as well. That tie those two that will tie those two things in together. You are of time. Kwasi, you are out of time. Kwasi, you are out of time. Fine. Okay, fine. Okay, fine. Its been to see you. Its been good to see you. Its been good to see you. All the balls you see, thats what it is. It is. It is. Youll be back on monday. I will be, indeed. Fabulous stuff. Fabulous stuff. Okay, its just coming up to very nearly weve got very nearly 840 and weve got headune very nearly 840 and weve got headline coming up. And headline makers coming up. And actually, a actually, theres a big headline, story that headline, a big story in that James Bulgers later bid James Bulgers killers later bid to released from prison, to be released from prison, as you very you can imagine, very controversial for channel good morning. This is good morning. This is breakfast with stephen and ann at, what is it, 843. Actually, we were talking about Old Fashioned foods. Let me just read this one out. The fact that spam is going out of date and everything nowadays. Derek in derbyshire says , i have derek in derbyshire says, i have a cupboard full of spam and i use it for fishing and then thats right. Phil says in the 60s my mother had a special cupboard with tins of spam powdered milk tins of beans. Et cetera. This was her war cupboard. Both my parents served in the raf in world war ii and they were prepared for the next dned they were prepared for the next dried food. My dad did that with. He did it for the 2000 millennium bug and all that sort of thing. On really . He had a he had a box full of food in the garage. Never never needed it obviously. No, i have a i have a cupboard full of candles under the sink. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. For the same reason. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, lets find out whats making headlines today making the headlines for today with chief to with former chief secretary to the mellor and the treasury, david mellor and writer columnist emma wolf. Writer and columnist emma wolf. Good morning, you two. Im really sorry i cant and im really sorry i cant talk to you about spam. Oh, thats right. Oh, thats right. Talking to about im talking to you about whether zelenskyy is going to lose without us support. A minor lose without us support. A minor matter by comparison with spam. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, so hes yeah. Well, so hes convinced. Is he using this as rhetoric to keep them on board or do i think the real thing . I think they need american support and american supplies. Dont forget, theyve had over 100 billion worth of american kit. But, you know, i worry about 100 billion. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh. Oh. Why has poland pulled out of supplying . Well, thats thats thats an argument over over food arrangements, grain, grain and but look, its the americans that are troubling. I mean , dont forget biden i mean, dont forget biden couldnt wait to become president in order then to chuck everything away in afghanistan. And now we have a situation where the republicans are trying or a small group of republicans to cut the money that goes to zelenskyy. And you sometimes wonder what these guys are on and why theyre in. I mean, the trouble with America Travel around american politics very much. And its so provincial. Much. And its so provincial. They think the next state is a foreign country. But, you know, theres something here. And this is the telegraph page , page 11 is the telegraph page, page 11 and tim burchett never heard of him, not even a household name in his own lavatory. But you sits on the house, Foreign Affairs committee, said, i appreciate mr zelenskyys bravado and everything , but we bravado and everything, but we dont have any money. Were broke and were given our money away. I mean , with someone like away. I mean, with someone like that, have an awful lot more than ukraine does. And you think to yourself, at the end of the day, what has been amazing is how a man who was a comedian , he how a man who was a comedian, he was yeah, i mean, a professional comedian as against a number of amateur comedians that there are in politics. Zelenskyy has risen to the occasion. An he has been to the occasion. An he has been forbidden bbl and for him then to be let down and to get give putin professional politicians to stand up and be back at the top. I mean, this is so crazy that even a member of the United States congress , one of the states congress, one of the extreme right wing members, should understand that. And so for all that , biden, i mean, for all that, biden, i mean, biden was at it again repeating the same story twice in a couple of minutes. Yeah. But at least this time, his heart appears to be in the right place. If the russians are allowed to come back and win this battle that they stupidly took on with with ukraine, it would be an outrage. It would be simple , wouldnt it . It would be. It would be. Emma, take us to the sun and yet another time that it looks as though authorities are going to consider John Venables , who to consider John Venables, who is, of course, one of the murderers of little james bulger. Yeah, i think this is parole. Absolutely disgusting. Just to recap , all of absolutely disgusting. Just to recap, all of us on the james bulger story, which probably bulger story, which we probably remember , venables and thompson remember, venables and thompson were in 1993 for the were jailed in 1993 for the murder of two year old james bulger. They were ten years old bulger. They were ten years old and they were freed at 18. John venables is now up for parole and theres a call to make that parole hearing public. Venables is now 40. He has a new identity, but since that time hes been jailed twice for child for possessing images of child sexual abuse. And hes now up for parole once again. He was denied parole in 2020, but i just think we need to really take a look at why on earth hes even up for parole again. Well well, the argument would be we that we have a Justice System and not a revenge system. And so if hes i mean, the mistakes are made, but if hes not, mistakes are made. But if hes ten years old. But if hes ten years old. But if hes ten years old. But no, i didnt mean that mistake. I mean i mean the mistake. I mean i mean the mistake in releasing people on parole. But if hes if they decide he is not suitable for parole, he is likely to re offend and they wont release him anyway, as you know. Do you think it should be public . Famous has been. And one of the things i was a has been over was doing life sentence prisoners and whether they should. And then the should be released. And then the european Human Rights European Court of human rights said that couldnt be said that decision couldnt be made by ministers, had to be made by ministers, had to be made by ministers, had to be made by an independent tribunal. Hence once along comes the parole board. My worry with the parole board. My worry with the whole parole system is not that some people should be released because of course they should be. The because of course they should be. The worry is, is the kind of people who get mixed up in the parole board. Theyre not there to keep people locked up. Theyre because for theyre there because for a variety of reasons, they think they should released. And so variety of reasons, they think theysysteml released. And so variety of reasons, they think theysystem is released. And so variety of reasons, they think theysystem is noweased. And so variety of reasons, they think theysystem is now biased and so variety of reasons, they think theysystem is now biased inj so the system is now biased in favour of releasing people. And of course you do get what the home office perhaps shouldnt have comedy. In my day, they used to call own goals , which is used to call own goals, which is when someone is released and then does something terrible again. I mean, i totally get the again. I mean, i totally get the anger and the frustration and particularly for the poor family, the family involved with it, it must be horrific. It, it must be horrific. Im still always drawn to the fact what do you do for how do you deal with a criminally offending child . No, and i agree with you, steve. And thats exactly what i thought. And i looked again and they were ten years old and i feel that ten year olds committing need to be committing crimes need to be looked again. Its fact looked at again. Its the fact that jon venables has gone on twice. Hes been jailed twice since then. Hes now 40 years old. Thats not ten year old old. Thats not a ten year old doing well. But is that unforgivable act . I was a child when this case happened. I now have a three year old. I feel very differently the family. But is his four year old is his re offending what hes done which is sexual re offending . Which is sexual re offending . Is that linked to the fact that hes been in prison since he was ten years old . Of course. Yeah. And thats very likely to and we have a problem with our prison system in that it teaches people basically well, you know, terrible behaviour wrong terrible behaviour and wrong behaviour but behaviour and all of that. But im saying hes shown if im just saying hes shown if someone is working and showing remorse trying someone is working and showing rerrehabilitate trying someone is working and showing rerrehabilitate their trying someone is working and showing rerrehabilitate their lives rying someone is working and showing rerrehabilitate their lives ,ying to rehabilitate their lives, fine. I dont know what Robert Thompson to do, thompson has gone on to do, but well, havent heard. Thompson has gone on to do, but welso havent heard. Thompson has gone on to do, but welso i havent heard. Thompson has gone on to do, but welso i think nt heard. Thompson has gone on to do, but welso i think we heard. Thompson has gone on to do, but welso i think we presume that he so i think we presume that he has not re offended. Theyve been given new identities. Even john identities. So even if John Venables, appears, hell venables, when he appears, hell have hell have his face blurred, hell have his face blurred, hell have voice disguised. But have his voice disguised. But its all is done to protect him. What bolger . What about jamie bolger . But. But the thing about it is that all of business but. But the thing about it is thathow of business but. But the thing about it is thathow theyre 3usiness but. But the thing about it is thathow theyre given ss but. But the thing about it is thathow theyre given new about how theyre given new identities, go online identities, you just go online and. And youre told all about them, where they live. Well, but its theres yes, well, but its theres no doubt about it that the system that life sentence system works, that life sentence isnt a life sentence. And a lot of offenders are released and you never hear of them again. Good news. But theyre on a life licence but theyre on a life licence. It can be recalled. But the problem is when the system is too enthusiastic to let people go who continue to pose a risk to the community, pose a risk, isnt it . Because we as a society want to believe that prison is somehow rehabilitative . Thats a word. It is for some. And of word. It is for some. And of course it is for some. And we want to believe, i guess or at least the parole board might want to give him the benefit of the doubt because they want to believe that the prison system works. And hes proved twice if not, you i agree with you. You know, i agree with you. What should it be made public in any way, do think this so in any way, do you think this so that we see see . Well, the family the family would public. Would like it to be public. I think their wishes and i think their wishes should be respected. These hearings are a lot of these hearings are now held in public. One now held in public. This one isnt going to be. And you think to yourself, are is to yourself, why . Why are is everybody over backwards everybody bending over backwards to make it easier for these for the for these guys and since theres no way they can keep their identity . Well, theres only one of them were dealing with. Keep identity secret. With. Keep his identity secret. I think it would be far better if the public were put in a position to know what was going on and dont believe in secret justice. Yes. No. Yes. No. Possibly secret justice is very dangerous. Ill tell you how i see this. So its your classic lose lose situation, isnt it . Theres no theres no happy outcome to it. There isnt . No. There isnt . No. Its a terrible its awful. Its a terrible its awful. And you said within all of this, youve just got to think of the family and what and what denise is going through to again and again. And again and again. And again. And again. Tell you one thing i i tell you one thing that i used to look at some of these all a lot of these cases i did over a thousand life sentence prisoner cases while i was in all the murderers. All of the murderers. And i would look into the background and and see those the own would look into the background and committed, fose the own would look into the background and committed, seriouse own would look into the background and committed, serious offence goals committed, serious offence again. Was there any intimation that this might happen . And usually there was. Usually there usually there was. Usually there was. I usually there was. Usually there was. I remember there was one where chap committed murder for the second time. He killed his father the first time and had run round his house laughing while stabbing his father to death. And yet he was regarded as though it was just a family murder and generally they think if its a family murder, its much safer to let people out. And at the end of the day, i still believe very strongly that if you have doubts , if those if you have doubts, if those doubts must sound in favour of the public, there is no reason why someone who has killed once whatever age they were, should be given the benefit of the doubt. If theres a doubt, keep them locked or if theres a risk to children, as there clearly is. And i agree with you to a certain extent that i think denise the mother particularly. But theres a father well. But theres a father as well. And theres a brothers but theres a father as well. And sisters theres a brothers but theres a father as well. And sisters thates a brothers but theres a father as well. And sisters that that brothers but theres a father as well. And sisters that that they1ers and sisters that that they deserve sort of i dont deserve some sort of i dont know , they deserve a say and know, they deserve a say and their say should be public acknowledgement of their grief and what theyve gone through in the last 2020. Why shouldnt they have their voice actually be greater emphasis . Be given greater emphasis . 30 years . And it was an appalling offence. Was it was terrible. It was it was terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Was cruel and vicious. And it was cruel and vicious. And there is plenty of evidence. If you back through you look back through these people, you can find people, the cases you can find plenty of evidence that someone who starts young continues down that track. Thats a concern. Thats a concern. Weve got to leave it there. Emma, david, thank you. Its been great to see you this morning. Right now, its 854, which is roughly seven, six minutes to nine. Heres aiden with your weather. I cant do it backwards i the temperatures rising. The temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. With the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially, the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland, Northern Ireland, western england and wales. The best the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will across the midlands, will be across the midlands, eastern eastern Eastern England, eastern scotland. The cloud scotland. But the cloud will build the the build through the day. The showers will transfer east so that afternoon soon it is that by the afternoon soon it is drying up somewhat across northern wales, Northern Ireland, west wales, devon and cornwall. But the showers are transferring east odd of thunder possible odd rumble of thunder possible in england end of in Eastern England by the end of the a cool feel with a the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday and its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward. And then into the evening showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely widely clear skies, lighter winds. And as a result, lighter winds. And as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday, widely mid to high single figures. Cool start to saturday, widely mid to high single figures. But mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. So still frost is possible. So still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland , caithness, sutherland, scotland, caithness, sutherland, shetland and orkney the shetland and orkney seeing the odd elsewhere across the odd shower elsewhere across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the plenty of blue the weekend. Plenty of blue skies cloud build into the skies cloud will build into the afternoon, but dry for afternoon, but it stays dry for the vast majority. It will feel the vast majority. It will feel cool, but. But given the dry the vast majority. It will feel cool, but. But given the dry and fine weather , a perfectly fine weather, a perfectly pleasant day is expected. Pleasant day is expected. The temperatures rising. Boxt the temperatures rising. Boxt solar power sponsors of weather on. Gb news quick , quick win solar power sponsors of weather on. Gb news quick , quick win on on. Gb news quick, quick win on food, carol says. Ive always believed marmite to be a health food is full of vitamin b. I think it is. I think it is. Im happy to go with that. I put it in everything. No, good morning to you. Its 9 00 good morning to you. Its 9 00 on friday, the 22nd of september. So our top story this morning has been the big question, could we be heading towards a closer relationship with brussels . Well, that is with brussels . Well, that is what sir keir starmer appears to want. If he becomes Prime Minister. Were going to be talking to the shadow financial secretary, to the treasury, james murray, a little bit later. Coming up, how worried should the Prime Minister be about a by election in tamworth next month . Well be hearing your views on our Peoples Panel of local business leaders. And of course were bringing you a full forecast with aiden. You a full forecast with aiden. Its another day of dodging downpours, but it wont be an entire wet weekend. Ill have all the details in the forecast coming up. Good morning to you. Im stephen dixon. And im anne diamond, and this is breakfast on gb news. Weve been talking about weird food. Well, not weird weird food. Well, not weird foods. Thats the wrong Old Fashioned foods, including spam , which apparently is people arent buying it the same way, saying what does spam mean . Well in wigan says specially processed American Meat first used in world war two. Not a fan myself , he says. Is not a fan myself, he says. Is that what it stands for . Spam. Well, others apparently say spiced ham, while some apparently it could be shoulder of pork and ham. Yeah, i think its more like that than specially processed American Meat. It sounds a bit grim, doesnt it . Then why do we call spam that get email spam . Why spam that we get email spam . Why is that called spam . Because its rubbish. Because its rubbish. Because its rubbish. Is that what it is . Is that what it is . Is that what it is . I dont know. Expect it is. I dont know. I expect it is. Thats fascinating. I just thats fascinating. I just i love the derivation of names and things like that, but but we will find out if you if, you know, get in touch please. Why is spam called spam and why is computer spam called spam . I suspect its because its rubbish. Yeah, but we dont really know. No, let us know. Gb views. Gbnews. Com. Were going to be talking about the eu very shortly and talking to james murray. The shadow financial secretary to the treasury. But sticking with politics just from the hour, the the start this hour, with the by election for the constituency of tamworth , it takes place in of tamworth, it takes place in about a month and this comes of course after the resignation of chris pincher when he lost his appeal against an eight week suspension over groping allegations. Tamworth has allegations. Well, tamworth has long been a safe tory seat , but long been a safe tory seat, but will that still be the case when the votes are counted . The votes are counted . Well, our West Midlands reporter jack carson is in tamworth with our Peoples Panel today. Morning, jack. How are you getting on there . Our opinions changed as you discuss these things. Dont tap into that. Thats right. Thats right. Yeah. Good morning to you all. Weve weve kind of interrupted this business meeting this morning. So meeting here this morning. So this the advantage. A this is the advantage. A Business Group, this is the advantage. A Business Group , they business networking group, they meet two weeks here in meet every two weeks here in tamworth to discuss their local issues, of course, the tamworth to discuss their local issue� business of course, the tamworth to discuss their local issue� business in of course, the tamworth to discuss their local issue� business in the nurse, the tamworth to discuss their local issue� business in the area , the tamworth to discuss their local issue� business in the area and local business in the area and weve been getting the feeling on ground of what the kind on the ground of what the kind of for this of feeling is for this by election in tamworth in a few weeks time. Course weve weeks time. Of course weve already a lot this already discussed a lot this morning, around morning, particularly around the trust feels that trust that this group feels that they may be having the politicians. Certainly politicians. It certainly something of course that they feel be changed and feel needs to be changed and theres lots of things in this area, particularly that these people that all run their people here that all run their own businesses are concerned about. But, martin, weve been chatting kind of all morning, havent we, about kind what havent we, about kind of what tamworth represents . And would tamworth represents . And would it fair say that tamworth it be fair to say that tamworth has a bit an identity crisis has a bit of an identity crisis at the moment . Yeah, think so. Weve got yeah, i think so. Weve got that sort of amazing weve that sort of an amazing weve said before, really amazing town centre, but is it retail, is it experience , is it hospitality . Experience, is it hospitality . Because we have this sort of unique ventura park which is full of really good Retail Stores which is on the outskirts of the town centre. So the retail footfall i guess has been pulled out there, which is leaving the town centre sort of a little bit quiet and not very exciting. So if we are not going to be a Retail Centre and were going to be something else, we need to invest in that. We need to champion that and encourage smaller businesses. Artisan shops, restaurants to really make the town centre something to want to come and see because of all that historical importance and the Amazing Things that weve got here. So again, feeding into we need an mp that comes in, understands what the plan is and yes, that feeds into what the council are doing and thats a different discussion to then go back to that place in london. And if theyif that place in london. And if they if theres funding available , if theres interest, available, if theres interest, we need to really generate some huge interest out in tamworth to make it something that everyone can be proud of. Can be proud of. Yeah. So going back to that point, i guess we picked on earlier that representation back in the house of commons is something for you. Mean, something for you. I mean, shane, want to add something shane, you want to add something to identity crisis to that kind of identity crisis point as well . Yeah, absolutely. Think, yeah, absolutely. I think, you guys did a great you know, the guys did a great job. They won a £20 million fund for the high street and further £10 million to move the college into the town centre, which is fantastic. What worries me is do fantastic. What worries me is do we have a clear direction on where thats going . You know, wheres the wheres the end result . Because moving a college into the town centre is great. That also brings in a lot of footfall, but it also brings in problems as well. Things like police presence. Know, police presence. So, you know, we make sure that, yes, we need to make sure that, yes, having this funding and spending this funding is a really good thing town centre. We thing for the town centre. We need a clear direction of where were i also think were going. And i also think its very important to remember tamworth about the tamworth isnt just about the town there are a lot of town centre. There are a lot of businesses, small independent businesses, small independent businesses that are actually outside the town centre which dont get the dont necessarily get the support that they need and that they actually, you should they actually, you know, should be receiving from, from government. Thats it. Mean for many thats it. I mean for many towns across the country, thats the that you want to the point that you want to pick up chris that all business up on. Chris that all business just isnt the town centre. Just isnt in the town centre. Its around an area which is its all around an area which is where business lives and business thrive. Business tries to thrive. I mean, what are the things that youre concerned about here . What do for those what could an mp do for those businesses outside businesses that are outside of the centre here . The town centre here . I think weve got just over 5000 registered businesses in the tamworth area that that is in the tamworth borough. If you like, less than 20 of them are classed as being in the town centre. So thats 80 of all the businesses that are in and around the town centre. All the funding thats been available recently through through council schemes, grants , has schemes, through grants, has only focussed on the b79 only been focussed on the b79 postcode which town centre. Postcode which is town centre. So 80 businesses havent had so 80 of businesses havent had opportunity to get money from, from government, from funds, from, from anything that the council is offering because theyre not part of that, that that town centre postcode. And for me when 80 of your business footfall is not being addressed , not being looked after, that thats thats a huge opportunity to for, for an mp to come in and represent rent and to actually lets lets lets lets widen that band of whats available for businesses. Lets not just for businesses. Lets not just focus on the on the centre because were all Business Owners that use the facilities in the town. But were not being supported in terms of money and aid. So its not always money, but were not being supported if youre not in the town centre and that, that for me is a big missed connect. Yeah, i mean. Martin youre nodding your head on that point. Yeah. I think very yeah. And i think very quickly, i alluded earlier to the local council, an mp that comes in and is active and confident will inject some of that into a local council that really to step up when it really needs to step up when it comes to business. Is my opinion. All right. Thank you so much for more of your views here this morning. Well be back again with peoples talking with this Peoples Panel talking all about leading up to that all about and leading up to that by election october. By election in october. Lovely stuff, jack. Yeah, lovely stuff, jack. Thank lets have a look thank you. And lets have a look at all the candidates for that upcoming by election in tamworth right. Right. F right. Andrew cooper from theres Andrew Cooper from the , Sarah Edwards the conservatives, Sarah Edwards from party , sonny from the labour party, sonny burke the lib dems, dr. Sue burke from the lib dems, dr. Sue haworth from the green party. Richard kingston as independent. Eight ian cooper is standing for reform uk and ashley simon from britain. First party now theres lots of talk this morning about the eu and about brexit bit. Why . Because sir keir starmer was recorded at the weekend saying that we dont want to divert edge from the eu. So divert edge from the eu. So lets talk to shadow financial secretary to the treasury, james murray, who joins us now. Very good to see you this morning. What was zacchaeus talking about. So look , i think what he was. So look, i think what he was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering down a uk standards. You know, when it comes to things like Consumer Protection , workers rights, food standards and so on. You know, thats what he was talking about and he was talking about that very clearly in the context of our red lines. And when it comes to our relationship with you relationship with the eu, you know, those lines are know, and those red lines are around, you know, not rejoining the market the customs the Single Market or the Customs Union and not bringing back freedom of movement. But, you freedom of movement. But, you know, have those red lines , know, we have those red lines, but red lines , but within those red lines, were clear that we do need an improved trading relationship were clear that we do need an imprthei trading relationship were clear that we do need an imprthe eu. Ding relationship were clear that we do need an imprthe eu. And relationship were clear that we do need an imprthe eu. And thatsynship were clear that we do need an imprthe eu. And thats what we with the eu. And thats what we would seek to secure. Unfortunately, it is being interpreted differently by a great many commentators this morning as saying this is what hes up to. Hes playing at almost rejoining the eu. Certainly cosying up to the eu. Certainly cosying up to the eu. Isnt that a very dangerous game for him to be playing at this stage . Pre election. Stage . Pre election. Well, look, i think this is about doing what is in our National Interest, whats in our National Interest, whats in our National Economic interest, you know, as well as our other National Interests when it comes to security supply chains , cross to security supply chains, cross border and so on. And border policing. And so on. And actually, i think when i hear some conservatives some of the conservatives speaking about about what keir starmer said, it does feel to me like a kind of an attempt to distract from the fact that they have no plan to make brexit work. You know, we know that businesses are suffering from from greater red tape. We know this impacting on growth and from greater red tape. We know thisknow mpacting on growth and from greater red tape. We know thisknow itsacting on growth and from greater red tape. We know thisknow its deepeningrowth and from greater red tape. We know thisknow its deepeningrowt costi we know its deepening the cost of crisis. You know, of living crisis. You know, thats why we want to an thats why we want to see an improved trading relationship with grow the with the eu to help grow the economy people across economy and make people across britain off. Britain better off. But what i dont understand is why was he implying through his comments that if we dont sort of stop divergence from the eu when it comes to things like workers rights, when it comes to things like environmental pledges , why is he implying that pledges, why is he implying that britain will be weaker, that we cant legislate in as good a way or even a stronger way than the eu. Well, look , i think the eu. Well, look, i think the comments were very clearly about the fact that were not in the business of wanting to water down these rights. You know, were not in the business of wanting to weaken Consumer Protection or food standards on. And standards and so on. And actually, having standards and so on. And actuallprotections having standards and so on. And actuallprotections , having higher protections, having higher protections, having Higher Standards can help to reduce trade barriers with the eu. So if we had a veterinary agreement, for instance, with the eu, if you have to jurist fictions where they both have higher Animal Welfare standards, that reduces barriers , it that reduces barriers, it minimises checks. And so on. So this is about improving our trading relationship. But within those very clear red lines that i set out around the Single MarketCustoms Union, the freedom of movement and so on, do think he meant for these do you think he meant for these comments to go as public as they have now gone . Was speaking at he was speaking at a conference of what commentators are calling middle middle range, left centre , left political left centre, left political people in canada. Do you think he really meant for this to be brought back to britain, where people will interpret it as well . Anti brexit. Well, look, . Anti brexit. Well, look, i think the comments were entirely in line with the position that we said numerous times , which is we said numerous times, which is that we have red lines when it comes to our relationship with the eu , that we want to see an the eu, that we want to see an improved trading relationship and that we have no interest in watering down Consumer Protection and other important uk standards. You know, i think all were seeing is, as i said, the conservatives attempting to distract fact that they distract from the fact that they have brexit work. But its all about perception, isnt it . I mean, you know this better than better than we do being in the being in the politics game. When he said than we do being in the being in the dont cs game. When he said than we do being in the being in the dont want me. When he said than we do being in the being in the dont want toe. When he said than we do being in the being in the dont want to diverge he said than we do being in the being in the dont want to diverge from id we dont want to diverge from the eu. Well you i mean anyone with any half a dollar is going to know how people i mean not how the tories are going to spin this, but how members of the pubuc this, but how members of the public are going to respond to that. And particularly , youve that. And particularly, youve got to say in four armour, got to say in those four armour, red seats. Well, i think red wall seats. Well, i think what members of the public, i hope, are hearing from us because weve been saying it so many times, is the fact that we have red lines when it comes to our relationship with the eu around, as i said, Single MarketCustoms Union, freedom movement. You know, people can be very clear where we stand that, clear where we stand on that, but not afraid to but were also not afraid to say, look, we do need an improved trading relationship with thats in our with the eu thats in our national that help National Interest that will help our help our our economy to grow and help our businesses to prosper. So were being clear about what our being very clear about what our red lines are, but also what we need get the economy back on need to get the economy back on track. Okay. Okay. Well leave it there. Thank very much indeed thank you very much indeed for joining thank you. Well, does that make sense to you . Maybe it does. You know, being very there, they being very clear there, they have red lines. No freedom have the red lines. No freedom of movement, no Single Market. But, know, there important but, you know, there important red says the Labour Party Red lines says the labour party will not cross them. But thats necessarily but thats not necessarily how youre seeing it. No. Rosanna rosanna from cumbria says , my son is 17 and cumbria says, my son is 17 and neither he nor his friends would want any closer ties with the eu at all. Not up north anyway. Hm a poll says the only group where there was a majority to remain were politicians. Theyve done everything they can to damage our economy and blame brexit. People are seeing all Keir Starmers remarks as either pro or anti brexit thats their argument. Jonathan is saying i am not a big fan, but my mates at university are really at the university are really edging towards the eu. Some of edging towards the eu. Some of them are choosing to do their masters there instead of here. Well keep your thoughts coming through. Gb views gbnews. Com. Lets see what the weathers going to do. Heres aiden a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hi there. Hi there. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland , northern western scotland, Northern Ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will be across the midlands, Eastern England, eastern scotland. But the cloud will build through the day. The showers east so showers will transfer east so that afternoon it is that by the afternoon it is drying somewhat across drying up somewhat across northern wales, drying up somewhat across northeand wales, drying up somewhat across northeand cornwall. Wales, drying up somewhat across northeand cornwall. Butales, drying up somewhat across northeand cornwall. But the. , devon and cornwall. But the showers are transferring east odd rumble of thunder possible in eastern the end of in Eastern England by the end of the a cool feel with the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday. And its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward. Then into the evening, showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely widely clear skies , completely widely clear skies, lighter winds. And as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday. Widely mid to high single figures. But in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland, Caithness Sutherland , shetland Caithness Sutherland, shetland and seeing the shower and orkney seeing the odd shower elsewhere across the uk. Its a beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty of blue cloud will plenty of blue skies cloud will build the afternoon, it build into the afternoon, but it stays dry for the vast majority. It will feel cool, but given the dry and fine weather a perfectly pleasant day is expected. Pleasant day is expected. A brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Still to come for you this morning, were back with our Peoples Panel in tamworth. This is gb news 920. Youre watching and listening to breakfast with steve denham, but its all to going come to a crashing end at 930. Well, it is because then it will be britains newsroom with tom and ellie, and theyre here to tell us whats going on in the program. Hello. Hello. Morning hello. Morning to hello. Morning to see hello. Morning to see you. Hello. Morning to see you. Hello. Morning to see you. Hello. Yeah, weve got a hello. Yeah, weve got a packed coming up. We packed show coming up. We absolutely packed show coming up. We absyou ely that you think you do know that you think youre going to talk politics and serious issues, spam has and serious issues, but spam has taken the airwaves. It will taken over the airwaves. It will descend. Yes. Save our spam. Yes. Well, save our spam. Yes. Well, save our spam. This is this is precisely what to do, a bit of what were going to do, a bit of silliness, a bit of silliness, but also a bit of seriousness. I think well sort of try and merge together. Silly. Spam is not silly. Spam is not silly. A luxury item now. Its a luxury item now. Its a luxury item now. 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Weve been discussing issues here discussing so many issues here this morning and theres one more touch more i just wanted to touch on with brogan child with you. Brogan and its child care youre, you know, care because youre, you know, youre parent, you know, youre a young parent, you know, what is the issues that youre seeing child care and seeing with child care and how might a future mp here when that by election happens in a few weeks time, could they do weeks time, what could they do to you . Weeks time, what could they do to its you . Its to just its family. Its to just expensive, its families, its the reason i am work for the whole reason i am work for myself. Ive been myself. And ive been self employed for nine years because could afford because i just could not afford the relying on the child care and relying on grandparents, which theyre their mum. My parents still their mum. And my parents still work. Theyre still having to pick i and its pick up where i cant. And its just know so many families and just i know so many families and so mums that work for so many mums that work for themselves because they have to work the cost of work because of the cost of living everything else. And living and everything else. And both have work, but both parents have to work, but they, cant afford they, but they just cant afford they, but they just cant afford the its having a the child care. So its having a knock on effect through families and through generations where grandparents to pick grandparents are having to pick up slack and because up the slack and because we cant , we have to work. Yeah cant, we have to work. Yeah i mean, that point specifically and everything that weve talked about this morning, whether its your trust in a politician, whether its feeling like youre not necessarily represented, i think the feeling that think from the feeling that ive got morning that this is got this morning is that this is not issue for tamworth, not just an issue for tamworth, but same kind of but this is the same kind of issues problem that there issues and problem that there are around country. Are around the country. Footfall on town you know, footfall on town centres, also i guess the centres, but also i guess the feeling that, you know, youve got group got yourselves as this group and what but suddenly that what you do, but suddenly that ive morning is that ive got this morning is that theres so much positive city around tamworth, so much positivity future positivity and so much future that maybe whoever that you think maybe whoever your next mp is could really get stuck into. But just finally on that , very stuck into. But just finally on that, very quickly, each of you, how worried or should the Prime Minister be worried about this by election here . Absolutely. If the last majority was 20,000, if that manages to be be overturned , i manages to be be overturned, i think thats going to be indicative of how the rest of the country are going to vote. So, yeah, 100, shane, 100 to lose a majority of over 20,000, thats going to set the precedent across the country. In my view. In my view. All right. Brogan yep, i think the same as well. And. E n em e i agree with martin yeah, i agree with everybody here that thats a big majority to lose and it could be indicative rest of the country. All right. Thank you so much for joining us here the forjoining us here on the Peoples Panel morning. Peoples panel this morning. That is on the 19th that by election is on the 19th of october. Lovely stuff , jack. Thank you lovely stuff, jack. Thank you very much that is it very much indeed. That is it from us. Were back 6 00 tomorrow morning. Next, tomanelli that warm up next, tomanelli that warm feeling inside side from boxt boilers is proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hi there. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. With the gb news forecast. Its a fresh start out there, but a bright start for many us. Bright start for many of us. Further showers, however, are around and theyll develop widely through the day. Initially the showers focussed for northern, central and western scotland , northern western scotland, Northern Ireland, england and ireland, western england and wales. The best of the sunshine wales. The best of the sunshine will be across the midlands and Eastern England and eastern scotland, but cloud will scotland, but the cloud will build through day. The build through the day. The showers transfer east so showers will transfer east so that the afternoon it is that by the afternoon soon it is drying somewhat across drying up somewhat across Northern Ireland, west wales, devon but devon and cornwall. But the showers are transferring east odd rumble of thunder possible in england the end of in Eastern England by the end of the day. A cool feel with a windier day expected compared with yesterday and its going to be well slightly below average as far as temperatures are concerned, but nothing untoward. And then into the evening, showers tending to become restricted to coasts for a time before eventually easing away completely. Widely clear skies, lighter winds , and as a result, lighter winds, and as a result, all the ingredients there for a cool start to saturday. Widely mid to high single figures but in some sheltered parts mid wales northwards a touch of frost is possible. Still a brisk wind as we start off saturday in the far north of scotland. Caithness, sutherland, shetland and orkney seeing odd shower and orkney seeing the odd shower elsewhere across uk. Its elsewhere across the uk. Its a beautiful start the weekend. Beautiful start to the weekend. Plenty skies cloud will plenty of blue skies cloud will build into the afternoon, but it stays dry for the vast majority. Will feel cool, but. Dodi. It will feel cool, but. But given dry and fine but given the dry and fine weather , a perfectly pleasant weather, a perfectly pleasant day expected. That warm day is expected. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news coming up at 930 is britains newsroom with myself and tom harwood. Weve got an absolutely packed show for you this morning, so dont miss it. We absolutely do. Parliament may be in recess, but politics rumbles on. Sir keir starmer is saying might eu rules saying we might follow eu rules despite having left the eu. Werent these debates all settled years ago . Yes and well also be catching up with our royal correspondent, Cameron Walker. Hes in bordeaux this morning with the king and queen. Been down queen. Theyve been going down very, in france. Well very, very well in france. Well be about that. And also be talking about that. And also bovril. Apparently, were not buying anymore. Were buying buying it anymore. Were buying balsamic let us balsamic vinegar instead. Let us know thats know if thats you, gbviews gbnews. Com but its 930 on friday. This is britains newsroom on gb news with me, tom harwood and Ellie Costello coming up today, Junior Doctors strike paying for cover is reportedly costing hospitals three times more than they save in the wages deducted from striking Junior Doctors. Cash is king, a pub landlord says that after three decades of only accepting cash, hes determined to carry on entente cordiale king charles and Queen Camilla are in france for the final day