Transition of power at a point when the country inflation and looking at historic poverty cannot get out of its own way. So whats happening right now is the clash against protesters as security as much security against each other. There are generals in that country who are very closely aligned and Nicholas Maduro the president who is keeping them reap, protecting them, providing food and medicine something the population of venezuela have very little of. Dont have access to the same benefits that their commanders do. They are the ones who have sworn that they will not fire on his own people. Why does this matter to you . The russians are involved. We are told china is directly involved and the cubans are involved. The white house watching all of this quite closely because there are building fears here that unless we orchestrate lets say a blockade of cuba or tougher sanctions on cuba to prevent this sort of thing, this kind of thing will get only worse. Also keep in mind that the forces that are supporting the generals and by extension Nicholas Maduro are the same forces that i mentioned earlier that are not intending on leaving that country. And still stirring up a crisis in that country. You might remember yesterday we talked to florida senator rick scott that say maybe american troops have to get involved. Others are not so sure of that saying it would be unwise move without help in the region including countries like brazil and neighboring columbia. Again, easier said than done. This has all escalated within the last hour amid signs we are told that Nicholas Maduro isnt going anywhere and has communicated to his generals that he expects loyalty to him. Most have stayed very loyal to him. Separate reports coming out of the venezuelan president. We are relying on english interpretations of this that assurances that generals even at this late stage if they switch sides they will not be punished. But the issue now becomes very are very suspicious of any agreement that would have them going to guaido. So here we are stuck in the middle of quite literally a revolution and what to do about it. House Freedom Caucus chair mark meadows joins us now. Congressman, to call it a mess is an understatement. What do we do . Well, it is a mess. And obviously secretary pompeo and the president have not only been weighing in privately but publicly as you have mentioned. I think the other key point here ised that the message to the people of venezuela needs to be clear. Socialism is a platform result in this. And they have a choice today whether they take the path of colombia, which is aligned themselves very closely with the United States on the path of prosperity or they align themselves with cuba and russia. And the message needs to be clear to our russian adversaries at this particular situation that we will not tolerate them intervening in this hemisphere and for them to get in at the last minute to potentially focus on blood shed is just not something the American People will support. Certainly not something that this administration will support. And, yet, we are hopeful for a peaceful resolve. Those generals that you were mentioning just earlier mr. Cavuto is this. Is they need to understand under a new regime and under this new president that they will be save and obviously a dictator like maduro is used to holding an iron grip on those around him. I think the voice of those people there, the citizens of venezuela will speak loudly. I hope you are right it doesnt look that way. It does not. Neil russians are not allowing that to happen. Cubans or iranians. Frankly i dont know what the real scheming is, sir. One of the things thats popped up here is that many in venezuela were urged not to gather in caracas. They obviously ignored that and did that there were assurances by National Security sources do not fire on the venezuelan people and lower ranking soldiers said even if commanded we would not do so. Isnt this really going to be a test of within the military community who stayed with whom. We are told the lower ranking soldiers are pretty much with the people on this and by extension with guaido on this and that those at the top, the generals who benefited as Nicholas Maduro from things that the population doesnt have like food and medical supplies, that will not change. And thats where the real schism is between branches of the military and here we are wondering how to intervene and on whose behalf. Right . Listen, i can tell you right now that when you look at just the privileged few, which could be maduro, the generals that have plenty of food, plenty of condiments to go with that and yet the vast majority of the venezuelan people are suffering not only with inflation but just a real desperate time of potential starvation. And so it is key that we have humanitarian relief there. But its also key that they get a clear message from the United States of america that is those freedom loving individuals will have our support and have it unconditionally. Neil when you say our support does that mean our troop support . We need to send troops there . I understand his passion and his concern but you talk about a slippery slope. I think this will hopefully reach a diplomatic solution. I dont know that there is a real appetite for us to send troops from the United States of america there. That being said, there is a Real International coalition that sees whats going on here with the exception of a few countries that you mentioned. But if you are going to side on the side of iran and russia, and cuba, and not with other freedomloving countries, we know that wherever there is the greatest freedom there is the greatest prosperity. Yet, we have venezuela with some of the greatest Natural Resources and their people are starving. It is time that we actually send a clear message and that is with all the support, hopefully diplomatically and humanitarianly than we can muster up. Neil all right. We will continual to follow this development. Panic just broke things really ripped loose in the last few minutes. I apologize for that i did want to get your thoughts on the bill barr hearings. He had sort of a raucous back and forth that went along predictable party lines with democrats chastising and republicans trying to understand what was behind what he was saying. But the gist was that he might have misrepresented a letter that came from bob mueller that he was misrepresenting those bullet points on the report itself. Did you buy that that he misrepresented that . Come on, neil, how can nibby that . He was given a chance, actually right and four page sum refresh his recollection he declined to do it. He wants to criticize because the narrative is not to his liking . Last time i checked bob mueller shouldnt be concerned about a narrative this is all about the democrats looking for a political consolation prize because mueller didnt give them what they wanted. Here we are looking at a particular letter neil its like going to a movie seeing the movie and later complaining about the movie trailer that got to you go there. Neil i see what you are saying, chairman, i understand that. But it was originally viewed as mueller upset with the way the press was representing. Sure. Neil the findings of his report but the letter seems to speak otherwise quoting from it while we understand that the department is reviewing the full report to determine what is appropriate for public release, a process that our office is working with you to complete process need not delay supportive materials. Release at this time would alea United States the misunderstandings that have written and answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation. What he also seems to be saying is. To your point, get the report out but if you have to delay it for this other supportive information, i would rather, you know that. But, then calling in to question whether barr might have been acting more as the president s lawyer than the nations lawyer. Is that a fair criticism . Its not a fair criticism. Its unexpected criticism by some. But its expected by me. Whether you have Andrew Weissman and a number of people that were actually writing the report, they wanted a certain narrative to come out of that. To suggest that bob mueller after two years is going to criticize bill barr for giving information to congress in less than two months, you know, the hypocrisy that you see there is mind blowing. Neil your impression from the letter that he was complaining about the press or complaining about barrs impression of that report . I think he was complaining about the press saying there was no obstruction no, collusion, and i think he had a number of his people that were on the investigation. Now, this is me with the hypothesis. Abulbasher of in people that was on his investigation say, you know, bob, you have got to get the information out there because there are some things in there that the American People, you know, will be upset about. And indeed we know that bill barr did that within two weeks. That being said there is no doubt in my minoing to go to one narrative. Democrats to another. This is literally a democrat 2020 exercise and a prelude to impeachment that they have long neil do you think this is the direction it will go. We will go to a reporter on the scene on this but i appreciate your patience. Right. Neil did you get a sense hearing from your democratic colleagues at least in the senate that it will be much the same if not more in the house . The House Judiciary Committee and its still touch and go as to whether the attorney general appears before that committee especially given the fact that jerry nadler the chairman wants lawyers to be among those asking questions. And im not talking congress men and women who are lawyers. Im talking about separate Legal Counsel talking. Would you recommend the attorney general still subpoenaing speak to that house committee. I would not recommend tomorrow i would recommend and fully expect he will be before the house it needs to be before the same conditions that everybody else comes here to suggest that you are going to have counsel come in. The Judiciary Committee is uniquely populated in that we have more attorneys, members of congress that are attorneys on that committee you know, than any other committee that is out there. And so to suggest that they are not capable if doesnt pass the smell test. Neil insist on that you would say attorney general dont do it . I would recommend that he dont until jerry nadler changes his decision and voluntarily. Neil thank you very much. Thank you, neil. Neil i want to go to Catherine Herridge on capitol hill. What are you hearing that the committee would be open the House Judiciary CommitteeKeep Congress men and women asking the questions . Well, what we understood from Justice Department officials is that if the democratic chairman jerry nadler made the call and got the votes to have the hearing with this extended time for staff questioning that that was really off the table for the Justice Department as far as they were concerned because they felt that if you have someone who is senateconfirmed, cabinet secretary like the attorney general that it was appropriate for him to take questions from lawmakers and not staff. So as far as they were concerned, this was a nonstarter and that we should expect a very strong statement from the Justice Department. Earlier today, during barrs testimony to the senate joshua areJudiciary Committee it seemed to be a case of the democrats trying to relitigate the conclusion on obstruction. They focused on this critical issue episode with White House Counsel Don Mcgahn and the president. The president , according to the special counsel telling mcgahn to go to the Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein because he perceived conflicts for Robert Mueller and that he should go. The attorney general explained why they did not feel this was evidence of corrupt intent. Listen. So there is no question that that that whatever instruction was given mcgahn had to do with conflict of muellers conflict of interest. Now, the president later said that what he meant was that the conflict of interest should be raised with rosenstein but the decision should be left with rosenstein. Also after the hearing completed, neil, we had a gaggle kind of an impromptu News Conference with senator graham the chairman of the committee and he was asked by reporters whether there was sort of over as far as he was concerned and whether he would not call Robert Mueller to testify. And significantly senator graham said that he was going to ask mueller if there were any discrepancies between what he heard from the attorney general and his recollection of the this phone call and if there were, he would recall. Neil all right. Catherine, more after this. Every day, newday helps veterans buy a home with no down payment and not one dollar out of pocket for closing costs. No down payment, no closing costs. Why rent when you can buy . E4a its toughcold turkey. King so chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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I fear that you are adding to a point where we should be sounding alarms as opposed to saying that there is nothing for people to see here. His work concluded when he sent his report to the attorney general. At that point it was my baby. You said it was your baby. What did you mean by that . It was my baby to decide whether or not to disclose it to the public. Neil all right, the grilling back and forth with bill barr the attorney general of the United States. A lot of the you saying what we first heard we didnt hear any drums underneath. You obviously didnt have the volume up. Welcome back, everybody. Day one we are told that the attorney general goes to the white House Judiciary Committee that is far from a forgone conclusion given the back and forth today on Republican Panel senate panel dominated by republicans coincidently were Many Democrats there as you know. Andrew napolitano joins us right now host of fox nation, liberty file, so much more. Judge, how do you think it went for bill barr today . Judge i dont think it went very well for him. I think the impression that he created a Misleading Congress he created yet again and i think he fudged a lot of his answers. Im not saying he lied. Im thinking he bobbed and waved anweaved and it wasnt necessary for him to do so. On the other hand, i dont think he changed anybodys mind. If you think this was a witchhunt and you are glad its over with, you probably still think that. If you think the president obstructed justice and should have been charged with that you probably still think that. Neil why wasnt the obstruction thing, the report itself that there wasnt enough there to pursue it and not enough there to just dismiss it, what was wrong with that characterization . Bill barr has a very unique interpretation of the obstruction statute, which is a minority view in the Law Enforcement community. Most Law Enforcement people, including prosecutors in his own doj have a different view. His view is its impossible to obstruct justice if you are being investigated for a crime you didnt commit. So if you throw a road block in the Justice Departments way if they are investigating you, big deal, you were innocent any way. The road block is not a crime. The doj the statute, the obstruction of justice statute says whoever, for a corrupt purpose, impedes or attempts to impede an investigation or a judicial proceeding shall be guilty of obstruction. It doesnt matter if you committed the underlying crime. Richard nixon was charged by the house of representatives with obstructing justice by having holderman fly authorities. He didnt commit the underlying crime which was the burglary. Neil easier if mueller one way or the other had made the decision on this matter rather than punting in this case as it turns out. I know he knows full well the attorney generals views and some maybe thought that would be a lost cause and why not do and this feed all these black helicopter. I dont know the answer why. My guess is because he would have been shot down by the attorney general who simply would have said you do not have permission to present this to a grand jury because, in my opinion, as a matter of law, its not obstruction of justice. Neil would you recommend barr appear before the House Judiciary Committee tomorrow if lawyers are involved. Yes, i would. A, is he very smart and can handle it. B, the questions will be better when they come from lawyers. They are not looking to score points with the voters back home. They are looking to score. Neil a lot of the congressman men and women are lawyers. There are more politicians than they are crossexaminers, neil. Neil wow. Some of those questions drove me crazy today because they didnt follow up. 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No way to know how many have been injured or god fearing worse but we do know that there are two men competing to be seen as legitimately recognized president of that country Nicholas Maduro held up in the president ial palace. He was supposedly willing to go yesterday. The russians stopped him. Juan guaido is still waiting the constitutionally recognized leader of that country. He said if he came to power it would be short lived in there until the constitutional process could have regular elections to determine who would run the country. Most of the world backs him, china and iran and russia by and large backing Nicholas Maduro. Heres what maduro has going for him. Pretty much all the top generals in the country. They are sticking by him. And until more unstick by him, this goes on. And it could get nasty. To rich edson at the state department as to what we do. Hey, rich. Hey, neil, the administration is watching developments there. This is an attempt by juan guaido to continue momentum. Officials were saying they thought yesterday they were close. They thought they almost had it. Guaido they thought they had an agreement with some officials, senior officials in law and orders government at the last minute according to officials here decided to chicken out and not support juan guaido. At this point the administration is still trying to push, trying to figure out ways to get that peaceful transition in power ongoing in venezuela. Secretary of state mike pompeo says maduro was ready to leave venezuela yesterday for havana when the russian government advised maduro to stay there. Maduro is still there according to the last reports that we have. Secretary of state mike pompeo spoke today with the Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov saying intervention by russia and cuba is destabilizing for venezuela and u. S. Bilateral relationship and president is threatening an embargo against cuba for this. Neil . Neil all right, rich. Thank you very much. With us now is Opposition Leader representative to the united kingdom. Thank you very much for joining us. Where do you think thank you for having me. Neil where do you think this is going . Well, i think we are in for a bit of a long ride here. I think its going to at least take several days. I mean, on the one hand we knew this would be a process. You know, juan guaido called this would be the beginning of the end of the usurp station. The final phase of operation of liberty which is in itself phase one of his three step process and you turf station. It is certainly disappointing that the top brass of the military did not see fit to side with the constitution and get maduro out there. Have been various negotiations and we know that. There are patriot acted ongoing side. International partners not just the United States urging the maduro regime your time is up its time to go constitution backs guaido. We want a peaceful transition. Its unfortunate it didnt happen yesterday. The venezuelan people see an opening. They are not being shot at by and large. There are some live rounds but there hasnt been sort of a massacre. The fact that they know that they are now ongoing negotiations and thats now Public Information means that they know that their are factors, the fact that they have seen some military commanders. This might seen paltry to the International Observer but to the venezuelan who has been enduring starvation and oppression for 20 years. This is the closest they have come to hope in a long, long time. So you can expect them to continue pressing forward until maduro is gone. As you reminded me how rich and natural commodities and priceless resources saying nothing of Oil Venezuela was a little more than a decade ago. They will squandered all of that its all gone now. What happened . One of the reasons why the military has not flipped that top brass is making 8. 8 million a year is our reasonable estimate from Drug TraffickingMoney Laundering, Illicit Trade even in feud, diesel, all sorts of thing. Coal and gold. Of course, guaido has offered amnesty. They would like not just the amnesty but the 8. 8 billion. They have run it into the ground. It started with socialist policies. It started well distribute out wealth and they just handed out money without really any accounting that became a rest pay for corruption as you centralize the means of production and finance it all went to the government who mishandled it, stole it and just ran it into the ground. The oil companies, financial sector, the department became basically a Money Laundering operation. The books closed and the investments werent going into the oil sector. Now they cant pump the oil that they are supposed to be able to pump because its just become criminalized. Its a shame. Its a horrible shame. Neil so sad. Thank you very, very much. There is a bit of a stand still here. They are being very, very careful are not to let this escalate or have soldiers fire on the people. Once that happens, all bets are off. A civil war is on. And nastiness to put it mildly would be an understatement. Stay with us. You are watching your world. This is the couple who wanted to get away who used expedia to book the Vacation Rental that led to the ride which took them to the place where they discovered that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. Flights, hotels, cars, activities, Vacation Rentals. Expedia. Everything you need to go. Activities, Vacation Rentals. Mmm, exactly ug Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Nice but uh, whats up with your partner . Oh we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize Car Insurance because no two people are alike, so. 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Neil down 152 points on the dow today because Interest Rates arent going further down right now. The Federal Reserve making clear the range they are in is the range they will probably be in for a while. That was deemed a disappointment. Some things are out of your control. Like bedhead. Hmmmm. Rubadub ducky. And then. Theres national car rental. At national, im in total control. I can just skip the counter and choose any car in the aisle i like. So i can rent fast without getting a hair out of place. Heeeeey. Hey ah, control. vo go national. Go like a pro. Neil all right. We have two competing issues, right . The battle back and forth with attorney general william barr whether he testifies to the House Judiciary Committee or not after talking to the senate today. And then the improving economy. Up until today strong markets, the unexpected growth in private sector jobs, which zoomed today by about 100,000 more than most analysts thought setting the stage for what could be a continuation of very good economic numbers. Thats the back drop here. The president likes to allude to and many republicans like to point out as well as savvy investors at the corner of wall and broad. You want to interrupt that . Strategist joins us. Democratic strategist you know, think about it thats whats drawing the disparate idisparatein the reports we all. The back drop of Strong Economy and political back and forth with the mueller report. Who said what how far reaching this is who do you think is winning out . The economy right now is no doubt is clearly red hot and things could cool off. That could change. It makes for a pretty tough argument for democrats to say that everything is absolutely terrible. When joe biden was giving his kickoff speech in pittsburgh earlier this week, the best he could make of it was saying despite the booming economy, the middle class was not feeling, in his words, the effects of the g. O. P. Tax cut and the wealthy were seeing those effects. Neil you know, roger, im looking at cory booker, among those advising given his performance today. Messages his opinion bill barr should resign. Hes not the only one. But does that show that in the back drop of the economic back drop is this political back and forth more hearings, more testimony, more, more, more, more, more . Well, i doubt that it comes as a surprise to anyone that one of the senators running for president is trying to make a provocative statement to get into the news cycle. I think, you know, what is going to be very interesting, the last few months are quite telling. Good job numbers that just come in. We will see what the Commerce Department comes out with. The month of march which i think is about 190,000 jobs also was the single largest edition to our budget deficit. 234 billion in a single month. And then the previous month from that, february, the trump economy created 20,000 jobs. So, its not steady enough to necessarily bank a Political Campaign on. And i think its risky when the Trump Campaign wants to use as a foundation this economic narrative because similar to the market you just dont know what its going to be like in three or four months. Its just not steady enough i would not counsel a candidate for them to base their message around monthly numbers because they go up and go down. Neil you are right about that. Taking politics into account here. The trend is the average American Trend unemployment levels for all key demographics are way down historic lois. We have seen that pop up in a lot of figures. Everything from consumer sentiment, retail sales, sure, they could be stronger but its pretty strong. Are you surprised, given all of that, that the president s poll numbers arent better . Whats holding you back . Well, look, we do have a very Strong Economy. The growth in the First Quarter was 3. 2 . If you are a democrat, you dont want to talk about the economy. You dont want to talk about how good its doing. How we are almost in a goldie lock phase where unemployment is low. Interest rates are modest. And the inflation is under control in the stock market indexing like the dow and s p 500 are toying with alltime record highs. President bush, President Trump should be getting more credit for that. And i think over time as more people feel the effects of this Strong Economy he will. I think its going to be a big advantage. Is he going to keep using twitter, remind people as he has done this week how good the economy is. Neil be careful. I apologize. Breaking news out of caracas, venezuela where protests are going on right now. They want a new president and they want him now. They dont like the guy thats in there Steve Harrigan has been following this very, very closely in caracas. Whats going on there, steve . Neil, we have really seen a dramatic shift in tone over the past two days here. Yesterdays Opposition Leader juan guaido called for military uprising. It got violent yesterday with water canons and gunshots. 70 people wounded. And now this afternoon after peaceful morning of protest its getting violent again. You can harr are the pop pop pop of small arms fire all across caracas. At least 20 people shot so far and a real shift in tone. Juan guaido the Opposition Leader said he was going to bring in humanitarian aid. He failed to do that. He said he was going to lead a military uprising against a dictator maduro. He failed to do that. So after four months of marching, four months of protests there is some real dissatisfaction and some anger setting in. And we are seeing some violence on both sides today here in caracas, neil. Neil as you brightly have been reporting the allot depends on the military particularly the generals aligned with maduro. Do we know whether the original offer that guaido and his forces had would not be punished or even reprimanded for the special breaks, allowances and all the other stuff that kept them in power and kept them loyal to maduro . Do we know whether that deal still stands . It really depends on how listen. To say the u. S. Said that deal was in place. Venezuela officials are denying it. But there are Different Military forces here in venezuela. Well havent seen the army out in the front lines against these protesters. There is a real fear that especially in the rank and philoer ranks of the army they are sympathetic with the opposition, with guaido. They wouldnt fire on their own people. But there are certainly other groups like the collectivoss, cuban militia who would fire on the venezuelan people. Thats where that firing is coming from today. There is Different Military groups under maduros control. He is using the one that he can manipulate to keep himself safe in the president ial palace. Neil all right. Keep yourself safe as well Steve Harrigan. Thank you from caracas. Again, we are watching this very, very closely because of reports went through that maduro was on his way out much the country and stopped by the russians who said dont go anywhere and they are playing a role in this. Can you see how quickly this has complicated this entire affair. In the meantime we talked about the attorney general of the United States and the back and forth on whats happening there in washington. When we come back, a look at whether he is being presented fairly for the words he uses and the characterizations he makes. Hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. What . im here to steal your car because, well, thats my job. What . What . . What . laughing what . . What . what . [crash] what . haha, it happens. 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Neil that voice you know quite well is republican senator john kennedy who joins us now. You obviously were refusing to the legion of leaks in this entire process. More to the point the leak of the letter itself bob muellers letter to the attorney general, do you interpret that leaked letter as a sign barr were and are at odds on the findings of this report . First very good question. There are very few coincidences in politics and i dont think its a coincidence that mr. Muellers letter leaked the day before mr. Barrs testimony a lot of people got their bowl bowels in an uproar over it. It turned out to be much adieu about nothing. My issue was very simple. Okay, mr. Mueller was unhappy. It turned out he was unhappy about the press coverage it turned out he was unhappy because he didnt like the way that mr. Barr wrote his letter. All that is academic now because we have a final copy of the report. So my question was real simple has mr. Mueller changed his mind . Has he changed his conclusions . Prosecutors either indict or they dont indict. Now, mr. Mueller said no indictment on conspiracy. No indictment on collusion. No indictment on obstruction of justice if he has changed his mind i want to know. He has not changed his mind. Neil do you think the fact he did not obstruction and im not a lawyer was built on the idea that you cant indict a sitting president . No, no. Mr. Barr testified clearly. He said i met with mr. Mueller. There were a number of people in the room. He said mr. Mueller was asked is the reason you are not not recommending indictment on obstruction of justice because of the doj policy that you cant indict a sitting president . Mr. Barr said mr. Miller said absolutely not. Absolutely not. So thats a very false narrative. If you are bob mueller and im trying to play devils advocate the attorney general to whom you are submitting this report has a certain view on obstruction what is allowed and whats not that essentially mueller pulled his punches because that was kind of the impression of the letter from mueller in which he said that barr confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation . I saw that and i asked mr. Barr about that. Heres what i and, look i dont know, neil but here is what i think i think mr. Mueller thought mr. Barrs letter was not nuanced enough. Okay. Thats academic because now we have the report. Mr. Barrs letter doesnt matter anymore. I think mr. Mueller was upset about the news coverage. I dont know what he expected mr. Barr about it. Thats up to the news media to cover it like they want. Seems like he is blaming barr and i am making this leap here i want to stress that is he blaming barr for providing the juice for that coverage . I think they are trying to make mr. Barr look bad, yeah. I think thats i dont want to paint with too broad a brush. Some of my Democrat Friends good faith they have red the report its done and ready to move on. Neil some of them cory booker and a host of others are saying barr should resign. How do you feel about that. I know. Thats patently absurd. Many of my democratic friends, not all but many of them are not in good faith. Could come out tomorrow in favor of children and prosperity and they would say he is wrong. This is the theory of the case now for some of my democratic friends. Trump covered up a crime that nobody committed. Now, thats but thats what they are down to. This thing is over. Its over. Its a 488 page report. They threw everything they had at the witness. 500 witnesses. 500 subpoenas. No, 3,000 subpoenas 500 search warrants. 20 lawyers. 25 million. It was a cross between an endoscopy and a colonoscopy. No indictment. Let me repeat it, no indictment. Its over. Its finished. Neil let me ask you this. In the senate it might be over. You have had this back and forth with attorney general barr. Now we are told he is scheduled to go before the House Judiciary Committee tomorrow but the difference there is they are going to have lawyers interrogating him im not talking about the elected lawyers. How do you feel about that . If you were to advise the attorney general what would you tell him to do . I think its an insult to the members of the houses did the chairman think his house members are arent competent enough to rely on thretoquestion the attorney general they have to rely on staff . Look, let me say it again, many of my democratic friends are moved on. But some of them havent. And they are never going to move on. Neil all right. This is about the 2,000 the next election instead of the next generation. Neil we shall see. Senator, thank you very much. You bet. Neil more after this. Way fo. 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Listening to reports he was set to leave the country yesterday. The russians said that would not be a good idea. So he stays. The one we recognized as the duly elected leader of the country still waits in absentia. Encourage these demonstrations to bring venezuela back to the people. They are trying to avoided escalating. Easier said than done. What shall we do . Stephanie if he joins us. Democratic florida congresswoman. Serves on the house ways and means many. Thank you for taking the time. What do we do here . Great to be with you, neil. As a former National Security specialist to work to the pentagon, i know we are most effective when we use all elements of National Power and that means diplomatically we need to be working with our latin American Allies as well as the international community. We should be collecting as much information as we can about the situation unfolding in venezuela right now. We need to continue using our economic tools. The economic sanctions in place, apply pressure to the maduro regime, as well as humanitarian aid to make sure we provide relief to the venezuelan people who are suffering underneath this failed dictatorship. Neil something is not working, right . We tried variations of those things, even with the tough sanctions tried to force maduro to cave. Hes not caving. The generals arent relenting. What do we do have a gets crazy and those same generals or soldiers start shooting on those folks . We take each progression of the crisis unfolding in venezuela one step at a time and i think thats why we need to have good intel on whats happening. As a strategic deterrent, we will never take off the option of military action. Its part of our levers of National Security. I think as it evolves, we can make those decisions as we go along. Neil are you surprised those in the region, the 100 or so generals and colonels who fled to places like colombia and were still, i could be wrong about the breakdown, that they are not responding more forcefully, that they are not doing more. That they are leaving it kind of up to us. I dont think they are necessarily living it up to us, as in the United States. I understand you are showing video right now the venezuelan people trying to take back their country, trying to make sure that the leader whos been recognized by 60 countries around the world and by the people of venezuela is allowed to take his rightful place. Im not sure that i agree with you that they are waiting on us to do anything. Neil no, no, i didnt mean it to sound like that, but neighboring countries, that they are not doing more to help the venezuelan people. It does raise an issue as well about the role the russians might be playing here, congresswoman. There were reports that the russians are quite actively involved. Mightve had a key role preventing Nicolas Maduro from leaving the country in the first place. Is it a bigger worry for our country . Should they succeed keeping him in power and having an influence in that region to the degree that they would . Let me say i think some of the latin American Allies have been engaged in this process. Colombia has been absorbing the number of displaced people, as well as peru and other countries in the region are receiving the venezuelan people as they flee famine and shortages and the violence of the crisis in venezuela. But as far as external interference that you outlined, this is why this issue is so important to america. We cannot afford to have a failed state in our hemisphere, in our backyard. Failed states open themselves up for people who are adversaries of the United States neil its a tough tight rope to be on, i understand it. If we get too close and get involved militarily, might be part of your caution, we can make the new regime local most like a puppet of the u. S. Its a tough balance. I think those are a lot of hypotheticals. We need to take the situation one step at a time. The venezuelan people are at the forefront. Americans should have their back as they try to take their country back. Neil late developments and we appreciate your taking the time. We just dont know, to the congresswomans point. It could accelerate or died down. We do know there are a lot of powers and players doing stuff behind the scenes. We dont know the degree to which they are succeeding to get cooler and, heads to prevail. We know that the duly recognized leader of the country cant leave the country and the guy who is the target of the wrath is three blocks away holed up in a compound and hes not going anywhere. That will do it here. Here comes the five. Jesse hello, everybody. I am Jesse Watters with jedediah bila, juan williams, dana perino, and greg. Its 5 00 in new york city and this is the five. Attorney general bill barr clapping back against repeated attacks during his first hearing since releasing the mueller report. Barr quickly dismantling a new liberal talking point, this comes after the media tried to blindside him last night with a report that Robert Mueller complained barr represented his findings in his 4page summary of the investigation. Barr explaining that mueller was actually upset with the