Few that ive encountered come close to his powerful words. Look forward to chatting with him. Across the country, remembering an american icon. Mike emanuel in houston with more. Hi, mike. Neil, good afternoon to you. Many dignitaries and many average americans are preparing to pay their respects to barbara bush. Her husband, george bush, put out a statement saying i always knew barbara was the most be loved woman in the world. The truth is, the outpouring is lifting its up. The enforcer is a family nickname because mrs. Bush could be no nonsense. Her son, jeb bush, offered this tribute to his mother. I had a mom and a dad who taught us right from wrong in all sorts of ways. Pounded it into us from the earlier stage. Im so blessed to be her son. She taught us to be civil. She taught us to love your family with your heart and soul. Former president george w. Bush says his mother had her trademark sense of humor to the very end. She and i were needling each other. She turned to the doctor and said you want to know why george w. Is the way she is . The doctor looked surprised. He said because i drank and smoke when i was pregnant with him. The invitationonly funeral will be here saturday, neil. Neil thank you very much. My next guest served as Barbara Bushs personal pastor. Russell levinson is from st. Martins. Good to have you. Good to be here. Thank you for this opportunity. Neil how is the bush Family Holding up . They are holding up remarkably. I heard the piece before our conversation began. President bush 41 saying theyre being sustained by prayers from family and friends. Thats accurate. I was with the family. I will only say barbara because she would let me called her barbara or bar. She wouldnt allow me to call her mrs. Bush. She passed away peacefully, gracefully. It was a lovely peaceful, tranquil christian death from this life to the next. We were all together praying. The president holding her hand. All of us holding on to one another. It was a poignant moment when we knew we were coming to the end. Her son, neil, asked if i would lead the family in prayer. We all knelt together around the bed. We all placed our hands on barbara. Very peaceful death. We all had an opportunity to say i love you. Those are words that are commonly spoken in the bush home. They come out easily and they have depth and meaning. It was a precious moment, a historic moment and a humbling moment for me to be there with this wonderful family who had become friends and very active members of st. Martins as you know. Neil and youre not one to pat yourself on the back, but i remember your service for gene cernan, the apollo 17 astronaut. I was fortunate enough to be there and to hear you. Talk about an uplifting message at a sad time. Do you feel pressure for this one . Thats a big responsibility. I have no doubt youre up to it. But you have the eyes of a very, very important American Family and the world on you. Thank you, neil. You know, i got up the way you got up this morning. I said my prayers this morning the way you did. My prayer this morning because theres lots of moving pieces. Weve been planning this for a while, the last several weeks and the last several days. My prayer is for a service to honor this week. Everybody feels that she was your best friend. She made you feel that because of her humility. It was also extraordinairy the way she made you feel. My prayer is that this service would honor her faith, honor her role and service to our city and state, our nation and our world. And that it would honor god as she would want. We planned this service very carefully. Lessons, the music. There didnt need to be negotiation. I took direction. We would have conversation about it but it was planned. So im not frankly im concerned my only concern is that we lift up a service that honored here, what a wonderful woman she was and is and honors her faith. Others having speaking roles will address other matters. Neil i remember most about you, reverend, an uncanny knack to see the most beloved or historical figures of our time in human terms. I know the gene cernan funeral. Cernans only concern was to fill up the church. That will be not be an issue and certainly wasnt with gene. Im curious. You were with her and knew her full well what she was looking at. She didnt want to seek any additional medical care. Loved ones will sometimes fight at that. The family seemed to be resigned to it and respecting her wishes. How was that process . I dont want you to divulge anything private with the bush family and thats your right and theirs. But when a loved one says no, no, stop, how did that go . Yeah, its a very good question. I think ill try to be i think you know, we all know this. Youve met this wonderful family. You know what you see is what you get. Theres no pretense, theres no secrets. But when she decided to make this public statement, it was a decision she made as she makes all of her decisions. Thoughtfully, prayerfully. What she recognized, i think, is that she has lived a long, full, wonderful life. This is a very close family. They love each other very much. They are very faithful to one another. Everyone knew and particularly her family. Once she made this decision, it was a decision that she felt comfortable with. She made a decision to let life and death oh the only decision she made was to make life and death take its natural course and receive the care and comfortable to have a peaceful death. Thats all she received. And all the family yesterday, it was a day full of i love yous. And we read to her during the day. We all took turns. I read the first 48 psalms. As a pastor priest, that got a little tiresome. So i actually reached over and got a copy of little women and read her the first two chapters. Neil read to her yesterday. Evan isley read to her. I read some out of millies beak. We read a few hours out when it became clear that things were beginning to turn. It was a precious time. Neil as a regular church attending member of your incredible flock, reverend, id be curious, how did she see herself . Again, dont divulge confidences. Shes a unique and historical figure here. A mother and a wife of a president and two sons, governors. Thats a unique place in american history. Did she ever convey to you that unique post . Or unique role . She seemed to slough it off in interviews. Just what you see is what you get. You know her better than i. Absolutely. A montra in the bush home is you dont spend any time talking about the big me. So if one got too focused on themselves neil id never survive in that household, reverend. I dont know how i would do it. And i have to say when i say they were active, they were in church every week unless a health issue or travel prevented them from being in church. They were in church every week. I imagine the president will continue to be in church as his health allows him. Barbara taught sunday school for us. She was a member of women and men that gather every monday to stitch kneelers for the pews in the church. She did this until a few weeks ago. The president early in his attendance was known to serve coffee, help usher. Very active members of the church. Part of the issue for the church family, they will be reintroduced to this wonderful role, preceding my tenure there. One of the senior pastors had a bring a friend to church sunday. President bush brought margaret thatcher. But it was not uncommon for him to bring they didnt have a special place in a pew. Yes, there was security through but it was very not very noticeable. They were always warm and welcoming. They spoke to people as they came in and came out. But they took their faith very seriously. We say one of my theres those that wear the badge, but dont live the life. Theres those that live the life but dont wear the badge. President and mrs. Bush, barbara bush, they lived the life and they wore the badge. They were not reticent to say they were christians. It was a very open, generous christianity. But they did both. They lived the life, wore the badge gently. It wasnt something they wore on their sleeve. It was something to be hold and see that, national figures. And she knew absolutely knew that when this life came to an end that new life began. So as she took her last breath, there was a sense of relief in the room. And i had the opportunity to spend just a moment with the president. He knows this. I think you need to hear it from your priest from time to time. I said, you know, mr. President , shes more alive now than she ever has been with before. Shes with your parents, shes with her parents and friends and shes with your daughter, robin and she will be there to greet you when your time comes. Meantime, she will carry on and serve and continue to be this wonderful family you are. So i got home last night and saw the ticker tape that we all saw, which is that barbara bush dead at the age of 92. I thought to myself, dont believe what you read. Because barbara bush is more alive now than she ever has been. Neil reverend, someone that has witnessed perhaps one of the most remarkable homilies i ever witnessed in my life for a figure who has left this family, they couldnt have asked for a better human being to said say goodbye. A nation that wants to hear it, a family that needs to hear it and people of automatic middle call stripes should hear it. Thank you, neil. Thanks. Great to be with you. God bless you. Neil all right. Barbara bush dead at age 92. More after this. 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Thats my responsibility as a majority leader, this wont be on the floor of the senate. Neil that was the answer when the Senate Majority leader said there wont be any legislative assurances to keep mueller in his job and nor does he thinks the president is entertaining firing the guy. Its not necessary, period. Kathy is here, political strategist harlan hill and we have kristin tate. A lot of republicans are saying, hey, not a good idea. You shouldnt be doing this. But it is what it is. What do you think . Well, hes talked about that hes going to fire mueller in the past. Hes joked about it. Hes thought about doing it. Neil push comes to shove, many on the left want to see it but it might not happen. He did fire comey. He does like to fire people. But it wouldnt be a good idea. Neil youre too young to remember this, but would you ascribe ken starr when his investigation of course, i dont remember that at all. But where theres a will theres a way. Neil what do you think . Theres an effort to criminalize political differences. Apparently theres an effort to criminalize the president making a joke. Neil it has come up and we know, the reports are that he considered it some months ago. Maybe were passed that stage here. But they want protection. Its not wise for congress to dictate who and when a president can fire and fire employees of the executive branch. Its a gross overstep of congress and would set neil and backfire on the president. In this case it would. Trump is not going to fire mueller. He is smart enough to realize the political consequences that would be severe. He would have republicans and democrats calling for impeachment. Trump supporters would love to see him fire mueller or rosenstein. This investigation has nothing to do with trumprussian collusion. Mueller is investigating strippers, this is a neil we dont know where that is going. But just when you think that mcconnell was with the president on this and all, he did remind folks on the 1. 3 trillion spending measure that the president knew about it and was wellbriefed on it and he said he was surprised of everything in there. What do you think . The spending bill . Neil but was mcconnell saying the president knew everything was in there . If he knew, he should have never signed it. It fully funded sanctuary cities and planned parenthood. Neil hes against the. Making a lot of recisions here. The president is thinking. When you get down to brass tacts, Mitch Mcconnell is the swamp. Neil thats not fair. He is. He absolutely is. I think its exactly Something Like this neil so youre saying a guy that might not agree with everything youre saying is the swamp because he supports no. He helped push this omnibus bill. He tied the president s hands neil he had a lot of people helping him. Im not apologizing he and the president are supposed to be on the same team. Theyre adversarial at this point. Neil if anyone that disagrees with the president the swamp . Absolutely not. Neil didnt Mitch Mcconnell said what you will, help neil gorsuch becoming a Supreme Court im trying to understand where Mitch Mcconnell is coming from. Weeks after the fact he wants to talk about back room dealings sand say the president knew about this. How is that productive if theyre on the same team . This is Mitch Mcconnell neil you can say the same thing about the president that bashes the republicans hes not bashing Mitch Mcconnell right now. Neil he did a few months ago. I dont know that he said the reason donald trump won this election is voters are as fed up with republicans neil you might be right. Youre sense democrats are lectured on this debt getting out of control. I find that rich. Is this just a problem for both parties . Arent we talking about a Bipartisan Legislation that is being pushed right now . We have booker and its bipartisan. Theyre saying lets not allow the president to make neil i agree. I wish we had more time. This is a good thing. Neil well have more after this, including the update on north korea. Stick around. Now, am i gonna be okay . I know people who specialize in am i going to be okay. I like that. You may need glasses though. Schedule a complimentary goal Planning Session with td ameritrade. I think mike pompeo is extraordinair extraordinary. He was number 1 at westpoint, tops at harvard. A great gentleman. I think he will go down as truly a great secretary of state. Neil well, thats very powerful support. The president confident that mike pompeo will have enough senate votes for confirmation. This is in the heels of a meeting between the president and president shinzo. And congressman, thanks for taking the time to be here with us. Is it your sense that this nomination will go through first off . Theres all sorts of efforts to bypass the committee there. One way or the other, pompeo is our next secretary of state . What do you think . Absolutely, neil. I whole heartedly agree with the president s statement. Mike pompeo is a patriot. Hes brilliant. With the world burning and everything were dealing with, he had a strong bipartisan vote for a cia director, the democrats need to stop holding us up. We need a secretary of state more than ever. Look how he spent his easter. Theyre blocking it in committee. But i think it needs to go through and theyll do whatever it takes to get him in that role. Neil not just democrats, too. A number of republicans, rand paul among them very concerned about the aggressive posture pompeo has taken in the past when it comes to foreign incursions and the like and he wouldnt have his vote. Maybe after a little pressure from the president , rand paul will meet with pompeo. I dont know what the skinny is there. What do you think of that . Everybody is entitled to their own vote. They should look at whether somebody is qualified and capable. If you look at mike pompeo, look at his background and his experience. Hes an extraordinary patriot. We need him right now in these roles. You can see whats going on with north korea, china, russia. Neil what did you think of that meeting in north korea . Pompeo was there meeting with him. Caught a lot of people off guard. What do you think . It shows bold leadership. The president is willing to crank up the pressure economically, to keep military options on the table and to send mike pompeo into north korea in order to have a precursor to the talks. We have to ensure that north korea is the peninsula is denuclearized, that they stop their other activity with their missile programs and exporting of terror and other things. It shows bold leadership. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. I applaud this move. Neil where do you think that meeting with the north Korean Leader and our president should take place . It looks like the dmz between south and north korea. Others suggest a different venue. What do you think . Yeah, i know the administration is working through that. You know, north korea doesnt have and airplane to make it to some places. So theyll pick the right spot. Im skeptical. Weve seen this before where they tried to use talks as a stalling mechanism. I know President Trump and his Leadership Team know its been used in the past and they wont let him get away with it. Im heading over there next month myself to the dmz and visit the troops and see whats going on. I applaud the pressure. We have to keep the pressure up. Dont let up. Neil thank you very much. Thank you. Neil and you know jerry brown wants to be a sanctuary state. But theres so many cities and counties seeking sanctuary from the sanctuary state. Get the latest after this. 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How that routine maintenance on a single item wasnt performed and led to a disaster. As soon as they take to the microphone, well cover it. Meantime, this. Leaders of these local communities from mayors to sheriffs are saying your law favors the rights of criminal illegal aliens over the rights and the safety of the communities. Your response. Absolutely false. Neil all right. Obviously the governor of california sees things differently than my next guest because the San Diego County supervisor is looking right now at getting away from this sanctuary push that seems to be gripping the state. Many communities are opting out. My next guest, the county board of supervisors, Christian Gaspar from San Diego County. Where does this stand right now in your community . To opt out of it . Yes. Yesterday was an important day for the san diego community. It was a 31 vote. San diego county decided to move forward and join the department of justice litigation against the state of california and its unconstitutional laws. Neil what are you trying to say here . I dont know whether the governor in this could could exact punishment on district counties that dont honor what the state honors. How does that work . Its important to know and understand in the interim we have this litigation that is moving forward. The county of san diego at the first opportunity will be supplying a brief to the court that will likely be on appeal. Its almost certain that this case will be heard on appeal no matter who prevails. So in the interim, we will be following the states laws. Thats what our sheriffs law has been tasked to do. Were going to make sure that san diego has a voice in this. We have daily impact that were seeing in the community. While were speaking here, any within between 1 and 3 criminals are being released without any questions asked back out to the san diego community. Its simply not right. Neil so when the governor says this stuff, exaggeration, its not really happening, you say what . Somebody needs to be the adult in the room. The governor came unglued when asked a few simple questions about the impacts of sb54. These are impacts that i see on a daily basis as a chair woman of the San Diego County board of supervisors. We need coordination between local, state and fall agencies. Were a border city. We have to make sure that we have a way to address the drug trafficking, the human trafficking, the weapons trafficking across our border in a collaborative effort. Sb54 has undermined that. Something needs to make sure that we look out for the san diegoians that are looking for us to get it right. Neil thanks, kristin. Meanwhile, a closer look at what happened on the Severe Weather flight and metal fatigue if it was isolated to that flight or that carrier or that plane after this. This is a story about mail and packages. And its also a story about people and while we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. That your business is our business the United States postal service. Priority you no matter when you retire, your income doesnt have to. See how lincoln can help ensure you still have income every month of your retirement, guaranteed, at lincolnfinancial. Com. Neil all right. A number of airlines now are increasing inspections of their boeing 737 engines after this southwest engine exploded and left one dead. Julie banderas has more. Yeah, neil, were learning about the people in the flight and the heroic efforts by the crew and passengers and trying to save the woman that was hit bring shrapnel. A nurse on board said she tried to resuscitate her by doing cpr and using a defibrillator after fellow passengers pulled her back in when her upper torso was sucked out of the plain. The woman was described as a remarkable woman. Meantime, the southwest airline pilot, Tammie Jo Shults that called for Emergency Services to be prepared on scene, shes being hailed as a hero today for successfully landing the plane without more passengers being injured. Shults was one of the first female Fighter Pilots for the navy and started in 1994. Listen to her calmly talking about the situation when speaking with air Traffic Control. Gary kelly said she and the flight crew handled the situation magnificently and did the job superbly. Aviation experts said what occurred is an uncontained fan failure or throwing of fan blade, as its called, which is a rare occurrence but not that first for southwest airlines. This happened in 2016. Same engine, same airline and damage short of a window puncture. On the left, 2016. On the right, yesterdays engine. Eerie similarities. A complete investigation could take up to a year. Neil thanks very much. Lets dip into this press conference here. An indication in the cockpit for engine vibration. It increased significantly on the left engine. Shortly thereafter the cabin attitude warning horn activated. From my experience of flying a 737, i can tell you that that warning activates around 13,500, 14,000 feet, somewhere in there. So shortly after the engine indications went down and the vibration increased, thats when the cabin altitude warning horn started making noise. Indicating the cabin altitude was going through about 14,000 feet. The aircraft began a rapid uncommanded left roll. When you fly on an airliner, youd rarely get over about 20, 25 degrees of bank. This went over to 41 degrees. The pilots levelled the wings and throughout the rest of the flight, there is what im going to describe as a fair amount of vibration throughout the air frame, the airplane. As i mentioned last evening, the flight crew elected to land with flaps five as opposed to flaps 30 or 40. They did that because they were concerned of aircraft controllability issues. Because theyre landing with lesser flaps, that will mean a higher approach speed. The speed at touchdown was around was right at 165 knots. And that converts to 190 miles per hour. Now, to put that in perspective, again, im going back to my days of flying 737s, the speech at touchdown varies according to the weight of the aircraft, but to put it in perspective, a typical approach speed for a 736 might be around 135 knots. This aircraft was landing 165 knots. The higher speed is because they landed with a lesser flap setting than typical. The time from the initial event to touchdown, 22 minutes. We have very talented meteorologists in washington working for the ntsb as well as air Traffic Control specialists. Neil theyre trying to find out what caused this, a routine Maintenance Issue that wasnt being addressed in the case of the southwest flight explosion. Judge Andrew Napolitano is here with us. This is a clear case for a wrongful death brought on behalf hoff the family of this wells fargo executive. This is not a weatherrelated event. We dont know exactly what caused it. Just listening to the ntsb, theres some defect in the plane. There may be other potential defendants, the fabricators of the metal. That would be up to southwest to enjoin, to bring in other defendants with them. As a practical matter, cases like this settle. The last thing that southwest wants is for us to be talking about this again two years from now when the case is tried in lower manhattan. The measure of damages is the loss of the economic value of the decedent. Youre talking about an executive at one of the largest banks in the United States. She appears to be in her mid 40s. Could be a very, very, very large number. But if youre boeing and the air light might say, this could be something that investigators are looking at the possibility this could be something. We havent gotten there yet. Therein lies how wide spread this could be. And its an incentive to boeing to recall those planes before somebody else is hurt and boeing or its insurance carrier is exposed to more damages. Or whether the airline itself was you have to maintaining the proper, you know the airline ceo initially claimed after this happened yesterday that the plane had passed a test the day before. That could not be. If that is true, then the test was inadequately performed. Were talking about metals that failed. A type of failure that should have been discovered. Neil the pilot in this case being called a hero here. Interviews with her are ensuing. Is it your sense that investigations like this take a long time . Because in the meantime, people worry, flying themselves. Hey, this was a freak event, an unusual event. Should i worry . It does put pressure on people to find out what happened. Im smiling because when this was happening yesterday, when we learned about it, i dont want to say who but i was chatting with a colleague that is responsible for booking the flights for the rest of us. She looks at me and she goes, im never taking a window seat again. This is terrifying. If she wasnt in the window seat, she would be alive today. The horrible coincidence where she happened to be sitting, a great incentive on the part of the ntsb and the airline to say, look, weve checked out everything. This is not going to happen again. The skies are safe. The planes are sound. It was just a weak metal in this one and it wont happen again. They have to do that. Otherwise theyre going to suffer a serious loss of revenue. Neil also the speed of finding out what happened. The longer you dont know and the more business you lose. I dont want to sound like its the incentive for the airlines. Neil judge, thanks very much. Hes on top of everything and anything that we throw at him. You know that the funeral for barbara bush is slated this weekend. Getting word that First Lady Melania Trump will be there. What to make of that and these events that can unify parties and a nation. President ial historian, doris concerns goodwin on that. Thank you nor taking the time. Youre welcome. Neil youve done a not of forums with barbara bush and funny ones. She was certainly her own person and the reverend that will be handling the mass and doing a homily in her honor said she wanted it that way. She wanted to be real. This is united folks from all parties going to this funeral mass. How important are these events historically when they happen and everyone goes . You know, i think in a certain sense, the remembrance of barbara bush of a person that was such a Public Servant for all of her life at a time when politics and Public Service is not held in a high regard. You know, im not sure its fair to feel controversial about the fact that the president is not going. Its not a state event. Many examples that president obama didnt go, president reagan didnt go. If he would go, would be a sense of healing in the bush trump situation. And thei wish he were there but its not against tradition for him not to go. Neil and depends on the event. John and Jackie Kennedy to Eleanor Roosevelts funeral. Im wondering what you made. One interesting conversation when Maria Bartiromo talked with george and laura bush. Laura bush revealed a year ago she visited melania at the white house. I guess they were talking about raising children in the white house. That surprised me given the tension between the bushes and the trumps or more to the point george bush and his brother, jeb. Didnt get in the way of the first ladies. What did you think of that . Its great. Theres so few experiences that people can share that have been first lady or been president that i wish the president s had more of a club after it was only. Knowing they only know the excitement and the difficulty of being president. So true of first ladies. So to reach across tensions that happened during campaigns and to share what its like to be first lady, its a human thing to do and does everybody good. I wish they would get together more. Neil i was catching not long ago and you were so featured in the documentary on the roosevelts. You know, think after years, a lot of the friction and political enemies back and forth die down with the aging of our bodies. I wonder whether a lot of the grievances, that might still be the case, ease at a funeral or when people reach a certain age. What do you think of that . I know you wrote eloquently of the taft and the roosevelt relationship, they tried to make head way on that. How much of that survives . Theres a moment and maybe it doesnt last far beyond funerals or that moment when you remember the best in a person and you want to feel the ties that once bound you. You want a story to end better than it started. Thats what happened with teddy and taft. They were such enemies. Right before unique position to a president or a first lady. Very few people have that experience or know what its like. Theres a certain comradery to that club. The last president ial race was a divisive race, particularly between the bush family and donald trump. Does this ease that, change that, the president put out a very nice statement. He and melania and her passing. But again, im wondering whether things change or whether that that is something for the next generation to deal with. Probably something for the next generation. On the other hand, just the fact that melania will be there, that other first ladies will be there, its just a reminder to people that politics may be a blood sport at times, but theres something about people that go into political life and the straining that they suffer and the exhilarations that they enjoy, that should bind them together and make them feel, as you said, a sense of comradery. That will happen at the funeral and maybe will cast a glow afterwards to remind these people that they have entered Public Service for a reason and not just to feel the other is the other and to hate the people on the other side. Its what we need in our country. We should savor these moments even if they dont last long, they remind us of something. Neil you know, i wanted your take on when barbara bush came in after nancy reagan, she embraced the first grandmother. Did it bother her what she was called that . You know, i dont know whether it did or not, that sense of selfmockery is something. She said im not going to dye me hair or go on a diet. Neil she sounds like me. I say the same thing. And just embracing that gives you a strength against whatever else somebody else might see you as. You see yourself as the person you want to be. Neil one thing im reminded, too, a sense of humor goes a long way. And i just found that barbara bush had this unique ability to make fun of herself, to zing her kids and her husband. I always found that very refreshing. No question. We went up to kennebunkport when i worked for her on her literacy foundation. My son, joe, just came back from iraq. I got stuck in the bathroom. I couldnt get out. So president bush had to come with a hammer to get the lock down. I came out. He says, well at least you write well. Theres barbara laughing and they hugged me and made me feel okay. Thats where humor comes in. Neil for her, how did she change the view of her husband . He seems so stiff. The rap was, he had a great sense of humor himself and she was the spark. What do you think . She was a woman that did smile and was warm and could embrace people. I think he had that in him. When youre with somebody that has that, you relax more, too. So she made that impact on him. You could see it when they were together. There was a certain strength that they had together. Absolutely. Neil absolutely. And to have you at their house, a home run. Thanks, doris. Remembering an iconic American Family. I guess it was the kennedys and the bushes, alls remember and so shall she. The five is next. Iving bonus k every six months im accident free. And i dont share it with mom right, mom . Righttt. Safe driving bonus checks. Only from allstate. Switching to allstate is worth it. Jesse im Jesse Watters with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino and greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in new york city, and this is the five. We begin with a major diplomatic breakthrough with north korea. A secret meeting just revealed to the world. Cia director mike pompeo met with kim jong un over easter weekend, paving the way for a potential summit between President Trump and the dictator. The president spoke about the trip and his secretary of state nominee at maralago. I think mike pompeo is extraordinary. Numb