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Wiretapping allegations distractions and concerns that maybe some of the tax cuts as well as other Domestic Initiative its could be getting sidelines. Blake burman has more. Hey, blake. Wiretapping and the president s new executive order driving the headlines throughout the day here out of the white house. The Trump Administration is about to turn its attention this afternoon into the early evening here toward the nations finances and obamacare. Later this evening, the president is set to have dinner with tom price and Mick Mulvaney to talk about what to do next with repealing and replacing obamacare. As you mentioned at this very hour, the president is scheduled to meet with his National Economic council. One would have to think that the budget and taxes would be front of mine there. Earlier today on the fox news desk, Maria Bartiromo interviewed Kellyanne Conway. She was very optimistic about the future of a potential tax cut. Listen. You will see a series of the budget is coming out and tax reform, infrastructure. Very ambitious agenda but the president should surprise no one. Hes been very clear about his willingness to be bold and courageous regardless of the entrenched opposition. They have made the timeline of how this works. First repeal and replace obamacare. After that, a couple months time, putting forward the budget and then would come the big piece called tax reform. Neil . Neil thanks very much. Blake burman at the white house. All of these distractions, are they getting in the way of the things that wall street wants to see . It bears repeating that the Financial Community is not red or blue, theyre green. So if they see things that can disrupt the green or tax cuts or replacement of obamacare delayed, they get nervous and antsy and charlie gasparino, they get nervous. Wall street firms and their lobbies deal with congressional staffers. The word theyre getting from republican staffers on the hill, in the senate, the word from key senate ires is that the Trump Administration aside from the rhetoric that Kellyanne Conway is spouting about the president being very clear and concise about what he wants to do in terms of tax cuts and the budget, theyre getting theyre feeling the opposite. Theyre feeling theres not a lot of disclosure and daylight in exactly what his budget is going to look like, what the tax cuts are actually going to look like, what proposals will be on the table. They dont feel like they have a clear blueprint about the future of the budget or the tax cuts. Thats the interesting thing here, neil. If you look at what is making wall street go to 21,000 before the last couple days of selloffs, a lot of it is pricing in tax cuts and regulatory cuts. When you strip away the rhetoric of President Trump and his advisors like kellyanne, think about this, repeal and replace obamacare. And then the budget. Where is the budget . Theres no budget yet. And then tax cuts. How they plan to do those three things in the order and meet the deadline that Steve Mnuchin told you, august to have a plan voted on, is making a lot of people among congressional staffers worried that they wont meet that timetable. Those congressional staffers are reflecting that back to the lobbyists on wall street, which is why youre getting jitters here in the market. Ill say this. You know, these people believe in wall street guys are all about green. They want to see the proof in the pudding and theyre not getting concrete stuff coming from the Trump Administration about those two key things, the budget and the tax cuts. Neil you did mention an important point, charlie. You and i have talked about this before, theyre really not red or blue. Theyre green. They make a lot of money and loved bill clinton and the market boom and the internet boom and Democrat Friendly to their interests. So they dont care who is running the ship as long as theyre making money hand over fists. So that has to be positive out there. They want to step back. I dont want to hit you broad side but were getting news that exxon mobil is planning expansion in the gulf area. Could be 45,000 jobs. The president talking a bow for that. This follows on heels of other Companies Planning commitments. General motors separately even with their expansion in the United States, announced theyre laying off 1,500 people. Still hiring more than theyre laying off. And the president says this is stuff im doing that i get zero credit. Does he have a point . To some extent. The tax cuts, the Regulatory Environment is a positive for big businesses. They want to invest and expand within the context of less taxes and less regulations which we know, the corporate taxes, one reason why they offshore money and dont bring back cash and why they try to do business overseas. It cost too much to do business here. Ill say this. We as journalists have to parse through this and figure out what was already baked in the cake. We shouldnt point out that mary barra said a lot of these job creations plans were baked in under president obama. The exxon mobil expansion that the Trump Administration is trying to take credit for. That happened in neil what theyre pointing to is the job commitment was bigger than originally telegraphed. Who knows. Who knows. I dont know that. Were getting numbers on the job commitment. I dont know if it was bigger than already committed. Positive Regulatory Environment is very good. Im just saying that we as journalists have to be careful giving him credit for everything occurs now. A lot of the stuff has been baked in. Theres good stuff coming, but you have to get the tax cuts. Neil thats what everything hinges on. Every day it looks unlikely. When its more likely, we gain. Charlie gasparino, the best of the business on fox business. If youre watching any other business network, youre losing money. Your choice. Meantime, much adieu about this story that former president barack obama was aggressively tapping the phones of donald trump. That is the charge from donald trump. He let it air to get Congressional Committees to investigating this. It struck many as outlandish. Cant be, right . Others say be very careful here. Youre pointing to examples in the Prior Administration where they did target groups. You can make an argument, maybe not the president himself, but the irs, conservative teams looking for status all the way to the Justice Department going after reporters including james rosen. So theres precedent for it. But at the president level . Everything when these white house officials are saying its not the white house or wouldnt being the president , it would go to the department of justice. Who will trust jim comey at this point . The republicans dont like him because of what he did with the phony investigation of Hillary Clinton. Neil youre talking about the fbi director. He urged Justice Department to say theres no there there. What was weird is that the fbi and the greater sense and the worker bees there, the Justice Department, didnt jump on the recommendation of his, comeys to poopoo this. But some are reading there is something there. If this went through the fisa court and nobody has proof because its the fisa court, you wouldnt not release this info. President trump should not release the info, even if he has access. Neil that would boomerang on him. It set as precedent that the information in a fisa court that really shouldnt be secret. Third party groups neil would that normally get out there . Fisa information would not get out there. Its bizarre that they went to fisa for trump once and the second time they limited it. If its proven that it happened, if the theres no there there, youve had every Congressional Committee say theres nothing there. If this investigation happened and donald trump was involved and it was the Obama Administration that did it, its a big news story. You can argumentfully say it however you want. If its obama officials doing it, it rests with the president of the United States. Neil they have said that did not happen. Again, weve heard denials before. Its too soon to tell. We dont know. We do not know. Thank you. Jordan thank you. Neil remember when Andrew Puzder was up for the labor secretary . And then the commercials came out with hardees. And then there were reports of a former wife who had argued abuse that later reputed on the part of the former wife. Didnt matter. He went down. He left. Say he wasnt going to try for it. Never happened. Everybody has been wanted to chat with him, andy, how do you feel about this . Hes going to break that silence with me on fox business. 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An equity summary score that consolidates the stock ratings of top analysts into a single score. And 4. 95 online u. S. Equity trades. You realize the smartest investing idea, isnt just what you invest in, but who you invest with. Neil all right. Its still too early to tell. Maybe the second time its the charm. The attorneys general are mulling their Legal Options as the Trump Administration updates his executive order, travel ban. Airline stocks were impacted by this. Most of them down on the belief that this would put a freeze on travel not only the affected areas of the country but abroad in general. Leaves people to say its not worth the hassle at airports and delays. Could be an overreaction. To get the read from one of the worlds busiest airports, lax, lets go to adam housley. Is this being received versus the first goround . People are prepared to respond here. The first goround, this was snarled here today. Its busy. Lax is under a revamping. Traffic is difficult. Im going to step away. Give you a look here atom bradley where the International Flights come in and out of. This is where everything was bad. Its busy but a normal busy. Take a look here a couple weeks ago when the last executive order went through. It snarled not only traffic on the ground in l. A. , which is miserable on a daily basis, but snarled flight traffic around the country. Lax is the second busiest in the country. Shut down track. A lot of flights were cancelled. Made for a difficult situation here. Airport Officials Say they dont expect that to happen today. However, they need to be prepared for it to happen today because of social media, it can happen at any time. As we know, an hour or two is all it takes. Theyre prepared for ten days from now when it goes into effect. They expect to have protests like we saw, whether there will be any kind of lawsuits filed by california or not, they expect the people opposing that to come here and come here in force, neil. Neil thanks very much. Adam housley in los angeles. All by one of the countries lasted last time are still there, but one, iraq. The fbi is also investigating whether 300 people admitted in the u. S. As refugees would be on these counter probes. I should stress existing visa passport holders wont be affected. Although existing would not be effective. That was the thorniest issues in the last case. General jack kent. General, this is supposed to be a more appeal proof version of the first goround, which has jettisoned. What do you make of it . Certainly it has been improved. Visa holders and green card holders are exempted from this. They changed the ban from 120 days to 90 days. Took iraq off, as you noted. Never did understand why iraq was on that. Remember, why these countries in the first place we dont have a u. S. Government entity or embassy in these countries to be able to vet the people so that they can enter our country. The reality is, in iraq, we have one of the largest embassies in baghdad. Im delighted to see theyre off the list. The other countries deserve to be on this travel ban until such time as we get a better system in place where we have guarantees that were not going to have terrorists posing as refugees coming into the country. Neil it seems to have been communicated differently with th announcing this and is not President Trump making the announcement. What did you make of that . They have done their homework. They admitted to themselves they moved to quickly on it. Secretary kelly has been on the phone talking to the various senators and congressmen to make certain that they understand what hes really got in this. Doesnt take effect until next week so people can study it quite a bit. I do think as we have seen the last time, i didnt see the justification for the assault on this ban by the legal system the last time. I dont see what the justification would be this time. The president has the authority to protect the American People and believes that these countries are harboring dangerous people that can harm the American People. We dont have a good system to vet them. Hes putting in a place a ban until such time. That is prudent. Neil what worries me, the 300 or so that were admitted into the country. I dont know what time that got here and now were trying to track them down. They could be dangerous. We dont know unless we move backwards and look at the approval process. A lot of them can be anywhere. What did you make of that and rejecting the president s first effort led to this . Thats interesting. This is the first time weve seen this number. Remember, director comey introduced 900 to 1,000 active investigations of people for potential selfradicalization or terrorism. Of that amount, 300 of them are part of the Refugee Program. Some of them have come from these six countries as well. So that is a new number and it certainly gives credence to what the president is doing. On the Refugee Program itself, for the last ten years, weve been taking into this country somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 to 100,000. 100,000 being the highest last year under the Obama Administration. President trump has cut that back to 50,000. Well within the ballpark of what his predecessors have done with the Refugee Program. Obviously were going to have a lot more vetting of this program than the past because of the concerns that we have. Neil thanks, general. Good talking to you, neil. Neil lets say youre here illegally and you shouldnt be. You dont know what to do. Theres a video that guides you along the way. Mexico put it out. 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Its outrageous that another government of another country would prime people that are here in our country illegally not to answer their door to our Law Enforcement officers. Its a totally outrageous i have never heard any country ever doing this in the past. Neil i was thinking if its the reverse and we had those here illegally holed up in mexico and we were sending the same recommendations from our state department to avoid them being deported. It would be outlandish. It is what it is. Where do you see this going . The Mexican Government has been fanning this to solve the problem. When you put out videos like this, youre not interested in solving it, are you . Obviously theyre selfserving. They dont want the illegal criminal aliens in their country. Therefore, theyre initiating the practice of telling them how to stay in our country illegally. It is just horrendously unbelievable that they would do Something Like that. That shows exactly what mexico officials are thinking. They dont want them. They want us to keep them. Theyre going to encourage it, not unlike that they commented theyre going to flood our courts with these people so we cant get through to all of them. That we cant prosecute all of them. People in arizona, people in american, theyre not going to put up with this nonsense. Its absolutely when i found this out, i was breathless. If we did that to their country, we would be neil and by the way, why make a video that looks like the game trivial pursuit . Its silly on that level. But leaving that aside, we get the same pushback on the mexicans when it comes to comprehensive immigration reform. Its really being fought hard. But yet, oddly enough, a number of Mexican Companies are bidding to help build this wall that donald trump wants to help out with as well as american companies. Its not clear who ultimately will pay for the president. The president wants the mexicans to pay for it. What did you make of just that . A number of mexican firms, the big players, wanting in on this. Sounds a little bit theyre a little greedy now. Now they want both pieces of the cake. They dont want the wall, but they want the business and the growth with it. Bottom line is that donald trump said that the wall would be built, built on the border and it would be with products from the United States, built by workers from the United States. I believe that he will uphold that. You know, i think people are pleased with that. Its good for our economy. Were a little fed up and tired of building everybodys else economy up. Seems like they cant get enough. They want it both ways. We, the people, are fed up with the nonsense. Neil governor, thank you. January brewer, the former arizona governor. The governor was speaking, by the way. Were getting more details on the exxon mobil hiring. A lot of it was trumpeted and telegraphed earlier. The numbers are bigger than the case. 45,000 construction and manufacturing jobs. 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At bp, we empower anyone to stop a job if something doesnt seem right, so everyone comes home safely. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. Neil tyson foods down 2. 5 because of the bird flu. More than 73,000 chickens destroyed in tennessee. Lots of problems that need answers. Finally. Hey ron theyre finally taking down that schwab billboard. Oh, not so fast, carl. Oh no. Schwab, again . Index investing for that low . Thats three times less than fidelity. And four times less than vanguard. Whats next, no minimums . No minimums. Schwab has lowered the cost of investing again. Introducing the lowest cost index funds in the industry with no minimums. I bet theyre calling about the schwab news. Schwab. A modern approach to wealth management. Neil all right. Forget about james comey with the fbi and what likes him or hates him on this fbi independence thing. Focus on reports of a former spy was hired looking to get some intelligence on donald trump. If theres any truth to it here, a lot of senators want to know, including senator grassley and more. You dont know, but you should get familiar with it. Whats going on, sarah . About a week ago, the Washington Post came out with a story that a former spy compile allegations in the unsubstantiated claims against trump had been in contact with the fbi a few weeks before the election and had talks to get paid to continue research that was begun by supporters of the Hillary Clinton campaign. A lot of questions about why this operative, Christopher Steele, was even in contact with Law Enforcement officials in the first plate, let alone to get paid. His work started out doing Campaign Opposition research for the democrats. So senator grassley sent a letter to the Administration Today wanting more information about taxpayer dollars were going to this guy, Christopher Steele. Neil is it clear that they were . In other words, at that point did happen . Its not clear that Christopher Steele received the taxpayer dollars but theres no denial that these negotiations were taking place prior to the election. None of the claims in this dossier have been substantiated. News outlets have been trying to verify the claims. None of them have been verified. Neil thats a big leap. Sarah talking about this and whether the fbi might have in concert or known about, you know, wiretapping in the Trump Campaign or Donald Trumps offices. He, donald trump, is charged that president obama directed that. This is probably as worrisome in this respect that if there might have been an interest in bringing down donald trump from the getgo. Right. Theres no way that Law Enforcement officials should have been uninvolved with someone conducting Opposition Research that was commissioned by the democratic cam maybe for president. Theres so many problems with that even being under consideration by Law Enforcement officials. Were not sure that this arrangement even actually came to fruition. But clearly there was accusat n accusations flying back and forth across the aisle. Sand the fbi was tilteded towards Hillary Clinton when she was not charged with a crime for her neil you never know that from comey. The one thing that interests me, obviously the Obama Administration was concerned about this material and takes them at their word, that they wanted the world to know that there was enough there there between the russians manipulating or trying to manipulate the elections, hacking and all that and the democratic computers and all that they wanted to take it from the top security clearances so more people would have access to it just in case the trump folks wanted to destroy that. That alone is an unusual move if true. Im wondering taken with this, whether there was some sort of a concerted effort to bring down or embarrass donald trump . We saw reports last week that Obama Administration officials went to Great Lengths to collect and preserve this intelligence against russias alleged contacts with Trump Campaign operatives. But obama appointees were to keep the classification level a people as possible could have access to it. We heard reports that Obama Administration officials were planting questions during briefings that would lead to answers about russian intelligence knowing that they would be archived and sending reams of information to members of Congress Asking questions about this. The Obama Administration is not necessarily known for its speedy responses to congressional requests when it comes to other investigations that they would rather not have proceed like the irs investigation or the benghazi investigation. They were stone walling. They wanted to make sure that trump wouldnt run away with this once he became president. Neil thank, sarah. All right. Im sure you heard what shes saying, im sure you heard the allegations that donald trump has that president obama himself personally authorized tapping trump tower phones. Donald trumps phones. Youre probably saying, as weve been going around here with other news organizations, theyre bogus, silly, must be made up. Ive seen all sorts of characterizations about that. Didnt they say that about the irs . Didnt they say the same about the Justice Department targeting reporters, hacking into emails and phone calls, that it was silly but could never happen and did . James rosen comes to mind. Lets say been there, been burnt by that after this. I realize that ah, that 100k is not exactly a fortune. Well, a 103 yeah, 103. Well, let me ask you guys. How long did it take you two to save that . A long time. Then its a fortune. Well, im sure you talk to people all the time who think 100k is just pocket change. Right now were just talking to you. I told you we had a fortune. Yes, you did. Getting closer to your investment goals starts with a conversation. Schedule a complimentary goal Planning Session today. Neil all right. Bogus, waste of time. Thats the way Mainstream Media has been talking about the prior president was wiretapping him. Republican strategist Janna Caldwell joining us. We have Rachel Campos and scott bolden. Janna, part of this collective dismissal is based on the notion it couldnt be. But i do remember because i covered these closely for the business network, the dismissal of charges that the irs was targeting conservative groups when in fact they were. I remember the same about the Justice Department going after reporters and checking emails and phone calls, our own james rosen included. Im not saying its directed by president obama himself. But theres history to say that they were open to that behavior. Absolutely theres history here. When we look at the president s representative statement on this issue saying nobody at the white house was involved, he didnt say the Obama Administration, which i think is different, which covers the Justice Department. Lets throw out two important dates. December 15 and january 3. December 15, the director of intelligence, james clapper, issued a rule, signed a rule that allowed for the nsa to target individuals through what they call raw signal intelligence. Lets say you work in a bank. They go in and dropping a net on collects that collect cell text messages, emails, all that stuff. They can utilize that information and build a case of someone else due to that information. So that brings it to part with what happened with michael flynn. They said that the ambassador was regularly being tapped. If hes regularly being tapped, would he have those conversations over an open line . I dont think so. So im beginning to believe that there is a there there and theres something to all of this. Neil there might be. But rachel, what we dont know is to what end. Obviously do you get a sense right now that people looking at this will say, all right. Trump is just trying to shift blame away here. No, i think the other networks are trying to make it sound like donald trump is paranoid neil hang on. Sean spicer is commenting on this right now. What we did is legal and in accordance with the law and in accordance with u. S. Code. We had a setback at the court. We had to make a decision about how to pursue what the president felt was in the best interest of keeping the nation safe. Thats it. Again, our ultimate goal would have been, if possible, pursue both tracks. Ultimately the advice the president received was to protect the country as thoroughly as possible and as quick of possible, to pursue this track. Doesnt it seems like the only setback is the fact that you had people working at these agencies that didnt know how this would be implemented and you had members of congress use furious at you guys because they department know what to say because constituents were calling. Didnt you one of the things that we discussed at the time that that happened is there was an element of surprise that benefitted our countrys safety. We lost that after the ninth circuit ruled the way that it did. Our goal was to make sure that we use this time to ensure the most effective implementation which youre seeing by all accounts today. It was extremely wellreceived. The departments responsible have done a phenomenal job briefing outside stakeholders and the media. So when you look at this rollout of how this was done, it was done extremely effectively. Theres a tenday window that it goes into effect march 16. So down government, if you will, agencies and employees know how to implement it effectively. Obviously we continue to believe the way it was done the first time would have security the country to the greatest possible you said in the gaggle that it was saturday night that the decision was made to revoke the initial order and not to challenge it in court anymore. Is that when the president gave his signoff on the language . It was. Can you talk about an area in which the congressional consultation is reflected in the final order. Thats a good question. So saturday night he met with his team. Secretary of Homeland Security, attorney general, his team, they hashed out the details and how it would be rolled out. The president gave the staff here to goahead to move forward. And then again, i think there were several contacts with members of congress and other outside stake tolders that were taken into consideration. Im not going to talks about how he made last minute changes in the language. There were changes made saturday night its not just the language but the strategy we pursued and how we rolled it up. Sean, the president said exxons investment began in 2013 and through 2022. Is the white house taking credit for this . Exxon made it clear to the white house and to the president that because of his policies that they continue to expand their investment. It is information that has been provided to us by exxon about the number of jobs and investments in america that we go off. It began i understand that. What im telling you, to answer your question, its information that exxon provided us that they believe based on what they see as a favorable Business Climate from the president to help manufacturing and grow here, that they want to grow their investment here in our country. Its based on them telling us that they will continue to expand based on the president s vision and philosophy to help keep jobs here in america, obtain a more regulatory and tax and Business Environment that will help them hire more, invest more and grow here in america. How great are the legislative challenges for the administration on the aca . Is the easter recess fair when he can get it through . Its a fair target. Obviously a lot of concern. Obamacare is failing on its own. The premiums are sky high. People are paying more and more and getting fewer choices. The doctors are no longer parts of plans and premiums continue to rise by a lot more than anybody ever expected. This isnt just an area that is important to us getting through. Its important for every American Family and worker who their healthcare is obviously an important part and the cost of the healthcare and their families or individual budgets. Thats something that the president has made clear. He didnt have to do this. Politically the smart move might have been to let it go. But he obviously recognized that this is the right thing to do for the country, the right thing for the American People. For so many people that healthcare piece of their budget is so big its very hard to make key choices about what is important for their lives. Thanks, guys, very much. You talk about who inside the west wing was involved in the investigation on the russian hacking and the white house request. If asked to testify, would the president consider testify something. I dont know. That hasnt happened. We want the Senate Intelligence committee to look into this. We havent had that request yet. I wouldnt even dare to suggest that i know the answer to that at this point. I think on the first part, as i mentioned before, there lot of involvement with the department of Homeland Security and their agencies, the department of state, secretary tillerson on down. Input from the department of defense and the department of justice. Were all involved in Domestic Policy Team here. The quarterback on this issue is the department of Homeland Security. But again, it was a lot of interagency work. Secretary kelly, secretary tillerson, sessions working together with input from secretary mattis and other Department Heads and agency heads that helped craft this. Thanks very much, guys. Neil all right. I apologize to my panel. The president is still thinking and sean spicer insisting his latest vetting attempt the second time will be the charm. All of this overshadowed today by this allegation that barack obama personally led and effort to tap his phones at the trump tower without any apparent proof but he might know something. This was touched on by sean spicer. That will be up to the committees investigating. What do you think of that . On january 20th, Michael Schmidt from the New York Times that said associates of trump that were being wiretapped. So its not unreasonable to think for the president to think that he was. We know that if there was something on the russia front, lets get to the bottom line, we would have seen it before now. We know the ed is flimsy neil we would have seen what by now . We would have seen the evidence by now. Nothing has come forth. Just today, cnn said trump without evidence accuses obama of wiretapping. When have we ever heard that democrats with no evidence have accused donald trump and his associates connections with the russians. The same standard is not being neil let me ask we dont know a lot of whats going on. What we do know is that the Administration Im not saying that barack obama personally, but the administration, the Obama Administration, did target conservative groups absolutely. Neil we do know that they targeted reporters at the Justice Department. So theres murky precedent for doing this kind of stuff. But its a big leap of the president tapping phones. But if the administration were concerned about russian hacking and the election, you think it would be a stretch to explore these connections between candidate trump and later president elect trump and the russians . Its a complete stretch. Its a stretch because the president of the United States has no ability to personally order wiretaps on anyone. A federal judge does from the fisa court. Thats the first thing. Secondly, donald trump can neil you think the fisa court would have done that . An excellent question. Why does donald trump want and investigation that the fisa court he has information that the fisa court authorized wiretaps . To do so, they would have documents, facts and evidence that reach the level of probable cause. Very fair point. Donald trump is the information neil we dont know that. To be fair, we dont know that. I cannot make the leap to call them bogus or silly. Weve been burnt before. Hes the president. Neil former u. S. S. Cole commander. They raise excellent points on ether side, kirk. One of the key issues, even if the president knew this to be true, President Trump, isnt it dangerous making that charge and then running away and saying committees should look into it . I think, neil, hes erring on the side caution now. Yes, hes backing off. When the fisa court wiretappings are given and they go out there and start investigating, its for National Security purposes. Generally highly classified neil they have to have reasons to do so, right . You do have to have reason. Neil that would not be in Donald Trumps interest to even, you know, mention this then, right . It depends. It depends on who they were looking for and why. If it was politically targeted like people were alleging, they have issues. Obviously theres issues in the past in the Obama Administration where they have proven themselves more than willing to use government assets for political purposes. Lets hope that that is not true neil at this level, the. Of the United States, regardless of barack obama or for that matter, donald trump going to that level at his level saying, i think we should finger this person, i think we should get a fisa on this, you know what i mean . If the Obama Administration was in fact targeting someone on the Trump Campaign as part of the fisa court action, they needed to make sure the political ramifications of that would be considered. If they didnt do that, shame on the Obama Administration neil or they can be concerned about National Security. Im not giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone. Maybe if they were so concerned at the time, concerned about russias role in this election, then this would follow that, right . Clearly it would. If theyre worried about the russian meddling and having an impact, how and what the fisa court was looking at would determine the path that theyre going to go down in coordination with other intelligence activities that were going on. Not just in the u. S. But around the world and whats going on in russia. Commander, thank you. Sorry thing are truncated here. The administration is leaving this in senate and congressional leaders to get to the bottom of it that i have a lot on their docket. More after this. Neil where is the replacement bill . We are hearing for my key congressman that obamacare replacement measures could be out later tonight. We dont know for sure. But the system that has already divided republicans, particularly conservatives, who dont want on obamacare lite. Its not any better if you make it less of an albatross. They expect maybe as soon as tonight the replacement bill will be out there. Oh, my gosh. Dana im dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, and greg gutfeld, its 5 00 in new york city and this is the five. Just a wee bit of news to cover today after a whirlwind weekend of explosive allegations from the president about his predecessor. Mr. Trump accused former president obama of having tapped his phone at trump tower during the election. Charged a charge the obama Team Immediately denied

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