Fed would sort of stand back. At least didnt signal that. We were down 220 points and the dow back under 6,000. All right. Now to the fallout from a billionaires decision to not join a debate. Donald trump is out. He says. Well see if he sticks to that. Of course, the key moderator for the big debate joins us right now. Brett, what are you hearing, hes definitely out . Well its a word were getting but were going to have a podium available, neal and obviously the campaign has put out a statement as you know these things a lot of things happened in the last couple of days. This is pretty unique. So were doing a bit of reshuffling if you will to go over the questions and the topics and well have a debate that will be interesting and substantive and i guarantee you it will be worth watching. Youre great at what you do. I caught the promo for your fine debate. This caught my ear. This is a debate you need to see. Its going to be an important night. We cant wait to get started. It started with you my friend. This is the debate you have got to see. And im thinking to myself self im assuming they last one in large numbers. There you go. Were past that. That great debate. And now we are going to this debate. Youre so good. Very well explained. Im hardly thin skinned. Now lets get a sense of whats at stake. The other guys are all jumping all over this and happy to have it. Rand paul said the iq level went up a couple of points. Thats a cheap shot. But again, hes happy to be on the main stage. Let me get a sense of who would benefit in a donald trump less debate . Thats a great question. I dont think a lot of our questions dealt with that dynamic. I think we are going to be going down a lot of the same policy topics we were going to deal with before. We have to restructure things. Senator cruz gets probably a more cleaner shot at making his case to iowa. And some polls hes up and some hes tied. Others hes trailing donald trump. And i think the other candidates are playing for third here in iowa. If you believe the polls going in. A lot can happen in the last few days. Absolutely. We do know from the history of those who skew debates it helps or hurts. If youre Richard Nixon its fine. By and large in a caucus environment it tends to be pretty risky just to pass over. Is it your sense if he sticks to this doesnt join the debate then haul of a sudden he does well in aye way and he just hes king of the world . I think you know its a risky decision. I truly believe from a political strategy point. Let alone that its our debate and all the back and forth. Just as a political move its a risky move. It could pan out for him as you mentioned, other candidates have done it. Ronald reagan didnt debate in aye way and george h. W. Bush went on to win in the Iowa Caucuses and the presidency. But in iowa it hurt him and i dont know how it will play out but its a risky political strategy. For the candidates who are going to be looking for their moment in the sun, either earlier with martha later in your debate with chris and megyn. The same rules applying . . Refresh me how thats going to go. Same deal. The bell is the fourth moderator. Helps everybody know that the candidates are past the time. So its not just the moderators and the candidates its everybody at home knows wait, this candidate is kind of way over time. If you get the double bell thats a really bad thing. But you deployed it well you and maria. I think were hoping its going to move along. Therell definitely be a lot of breathing space. A lot of time these candidates can address some of the things they talk about on the trail directly to one another. How do you police each other . Like chris wallace, does he try to steal your questions and how do you protect yourself . All the time. Do you drop a glass of water on his notes . Yeah. No. I mean its a constant battle. It really is. I go to private places, you know no. Were working great together. In fact i just popped out of a meeting and were really trying to hone those questions to get them as tight as possible to give the candidates enough space. As you said, its about the candidates. Thats right. I know. I didnt have a chance to get all the questions in. So i had a couple of Central Bank Money acceleration questions. I thought i shared them. Im not sharing with wallace. Im sharing with you because thats the way we roll. I will take them. If you want to use them, have at it. Looking forward to it my friend. Is anyone who can handle the pressure tonight its you and the three of you im sure. Tomorrow i should say. Im thinking its tonight. Thats how excited i am. Well try and follow up in your footsteps. How about that . Money supply federal reserve. Ill just leave it there. You got it. I just glanced over it. Bet you did. Watch it tomorrow. Going to be fun. Always is. The Republican National committee is in this odd juxtaposition here wanting to support all of the candidates and got to be understanding in the face of huge disruptions which this would be if the number one polling candidates saying no. Sean spicer with us right now. Good to see you. What do you think of all this . Good to see you. Well, i think obviously from an rnc standpoint we would like to see all the candidates on stage. We have gone to Great Lengths to put together a phenomenal schedule. Its turning out to be a success and we have got great candidates including mr. Trump. We would like them all on the stage but we have to respect each candidates decision to do whats in their best interest. Do you think its a mistake what donald trump is doing . Its not my decision to make. I think everyone has to decide how to best run their campaign and interact with voter that is they want to gain their support of. If the cameras werent on right now you would concur with the statement you just made . You know, absolutely. Senator paul skipped the last debate and back up on the main stage. At the time people probably questioned it and it turned out to be a good move to some degree. I would like to see them all. Were proud of all of these candidates and we have got phenomenal candidates on the stages tomorrow. But thats not for us to secondguess. I think part of what were seeing neal not just in terms of congress and politicians but politically is they dont want the rnc or people in washington telling them what should or shouldnt be done. They want each candidate to do what they want to do and run the campaign they want to run. Thats whats happening. I was just trying to embarrass you and maybe risk your job on national tv. Didnt work. I appreciate that. Anything i could do. Shawn, one thing i noticed, the sense that that night the bromance if there was such a thing between donald trump and ted cruz had come off these interviews confirmed that. Well go back to that interview. It looked like you guys had been almost like bromance thing going on but not tonight. I thought he was very nice and all of a sudden he hit me with this. I think he made a mistake. You two hate each other . Listen from my end i like donald and continue to sing his praises. Im not attacking him. Im going to defend myself. All right. Obviously, it has escalated to the point where ted cruz has dared to have a one on one debate. Lets do this. Just you and me. Donald trump responds to be a waste of time. Ive debated offevery six times. You heard all of this. I know you dont like the candidates to break the reagan rule of a republican speaking over another republican but it seems too late for that one. Yeah. I mean ive also said while i would like all the candidates to be focused on talking about what they want to do and we might want to focus on Bernie Sanders the way hes rising but were five days out of iowa. Its tight. A lot of engaged folks in iowa that are paying attention and individuals who are going to caucus for the first time. I think these campaigns really understand whats at stake and you know go at it a little. While it may not be what i would like to see i think this is part of the process we understand its a contact sport and as long as they try to keep it within bounds, we continue to see the energy and excitement and enthusiasm on the republican side and ultimately i think thats whats going to propel us to victory in november. You intimated about this that its Hillary Clintons democratic nomination that Bernie Sanders is moving up far and fast in iowa and New Hampshire. Are you guys prepared to recalibrate here that the candidate you thought you would have to face isnt the candidate you will be facing . I think if its Bernie Sanders thats a disaster. I mean thats going to be an interesting it is foretelling of how bad Hillary Clinton has sunk that she is now calling for additional debates in New Hampshire because she has fallen so badly and quickly in the polls. This was supposed to be a slam dunk for her. She talked about how their data operations were going to run circles around the competitors and now shes down double digits to Bernie Sanders a 74yearold socialist from vermont. That says a lot about how bad her campaign has failed. And i think that theres going to be continues questions about what this means if she does become the nominee. Shes coming out bruised and i think what Bernie Sanders has done is exposed the fault lines that this campaign of hers has. Shawn, its always a pleasure talking. Thanks. Good luck with all of the above. Sean spicer at the rnc communications director. Now, we know about how important this debate will be for ted cruz. Hell have the stage cornered and to himself if donald trump ends up not showing up but right now hes in a world of hurt and some polls say hes dropped from number one to number two in iowa. The guy who voted him up to that position is having this nasty tit for tat with donald trump. Now to be fair it wasnt really him who started all of this but its on. And lets just say this very influential figure is willing to go mono himself after this. We were born 100 years ago into a new american century. Born with a hunger to fly and a passion to build something better. And what an amazing time its been, decade after decade of innovation, inspiration and wonder. So, we say thank you america for a century of trust, for the privilege of flying higher and higher, together. All right. Probably think bob vander plat doesnt like the description to be calling himself a king maker but thats what they called him in iowa because his appointing candidate often times leads to that candidate winning iowa, Rick Santorum four years ago it worked and Mike Huckabee it worked and ted cruz it works for him. Hes in a fight of his life against donald trump. In caucus voters minds. The back and forth on that. Bob is joining us. Also, the cruz for president. National chair. Good to have you. Always good to be with you. Thank you for coming. Obviously a kind date scorned is a candidate angry. A billionaire candidate scorned is very, very angry. He is now saying of you and i know you have responded in other venues why doesnt phony bob tell his followers for him and his family to stay at my hotel, you say what . Why doesnt donald trump come clean and say all the times hes invited me to be there and make sure that i stayed at his hotel so he could lavish his friendship on me. But what hes not used to is used to giving all these politicians money and they do exactly what he tells them to do. Hillary clinton goes to his third wedding. But i dont give him my endorsements. The friendship has got strings attached. What i told donald trump yesterday and still am a friend of his, my friendship is not phony but still not getting my endorsement. You said that obviously if you were being paid or wined and dined to fill the deed you didnt fill the deed but he still goes back and forth and questions whether youre an honest guy. You had said that trumps friendship and generosity on the air definitely comes with strings. Did you know that prior to making your mind up and supporting ted cruz . No. I mean, we had a fair level Playing Field before i went and endorsed ted cruz. Trump has a history of this. Ask chuck todd and megyn kelly and frank lunts what happens there. And even ask the peoe of iowa. When donald trump slipped in the polls in iowa and ted cruz overtook him, what was his first comment . It was are the people of iowa stupid . So if youre not with donald trump he is definitely against you and that leads to a real judgment and discernment issue about being president of the United States. Still are you surprised as a leader within the evangelical community that jerry paul jr. Is backing donald trump, sarah palin, very popular in your fine state supporting donald trump and then as polls stand now and that could change, he could win iowa with all that evangelical vote. What do you think of that . First of all i dont think hes going to win iowa. No doubt theres a confusion. When you look at Donald Trumps record and youll know them by their fruit, hes paying planned parenthoods and believes the court has settled the marriage issue. Hes not going to take a stand on marriage. Youre questioning what kind of Supreme Court justices hes going to appoint. What donald trump has proven over and over again, this is all about donald trump. Must be working right . Must be working because he could take iowa. If he does, if he does, i know you dont see it happening, ted cruz has said that he does that with New Hampshire, he might just be unstoppable. What do you think . Well theres no doubt that iowa is going to be the water shed moment for donald trump. If donald trump can come out of iowa he is going to be hard to stop. Cruz will try to win it but its going to be more difficult. I believe in iowa we can stop him. I think iowans are wise enough and yesterday was a bad day for trump. He lost the battle in the twitter world with me and having the Des Moines Register back me up and New York Times back me up. But then skipping the debate. He is skipping the final interview before the Iowa Caucuses and the people of iowa penalize him and hold him accountable for that. I think what youre seeing is a perspective of who donald trump is and i think the people of iowa say hes not going to be our president. Even though hes shown up at every other major debate . Heres the deal. Hes not going to show up because he doesnt like a person. Heres this tough donald trump who is now wimping out because of me can kelly and youre going to stand up to putin or our Second Amendment right or nuclear iran. Are you kidding me . This is donald trump being donald trump. And we saw this when he said you could support him if he were the nominee . After yesterday its going to be more difficult than that. Really . Wait. Whoa. Whoa. He becomes the nominee, you would think twice about supporting him . I would definitely think twice. Theres a lot of what would you do, support Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders over him or sit it out . I think what we need to see in donald trump is a stark of humility that he believes this country comes first and not donald trump comes first. 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And given the surge in the polls by Bernie Sanders in iowa and New Hampshire, no surprise there. And the fact that the president of the United States was meeting with Bernie Sanders at the white house, well no surprise there. The force thats now apparently very, very real. Kevin at the white house. Always good to talk to you. Obviously you have heard of the film weekend at bernies. Today were calling it weekdays with bernie here at the white house as the senator from vermont met with the leader of the Democratic Party. The two men share a lot. Theyre both very much progressive and share a progressive mindset for this country moving forward and like the president , senator sanders is drawing huge crowds in iowa but hes going to need him to show up monday if hes going to match the president and pull a huge upset over Hillary Clinton. If there is a large voter turnout. Im not saying we can do what obama did in 2008. I dont think we can. If there is a large turnout i think we win. If not i think were going to be struggle. Its good for the Democratic Party to be a robust debate going on about who should be our partys nominee. That debate is good for our democracy and also good for the party. He was asked if he felt like the president said praise for Hillary Clinton in the article was akin to an endorsement and he said no, i feel like the president has been fair and i suspect theyll stay that way which is the right thing to say although i think between you and me and the people watching, its probably not the truth. Im sure he didnt like it one bit. Im wondering. They say this was a prearranged meeting. How long ago was it arranged . Its been a Long Time Coming right because keep in mind, its been ages since hes been here. But i believe based on nothing more than my private conversations and i wont say with whom, ill just say with an Administration Official that this really was an outgrowth of that article. They felt like we need to make sure he knows were not playing favorites here but make no mistake, i think that ranked on a lot of people in the sanders camp and now they have an open line of communication not just to the president but some of his staff members. You and i talked about you got to be able to reach josh ernest and others so they have the same access. Remember its about access that the hillary camp has. Thank you very much. Getting to the bottom of this curious little pow wow. Forget about Bernie Sanders. Is the president maybe rethinking that this was Hillary Clintons nomination all wrapped up . Much can be made daniel of reassessing this article that the president and his people might have intercepted, certainly a lot of people who are big enthusiasts of Bernie Sanders didnt like that. The impression the president was giving that he didnt like hillary and bernie. What do you think is going on here . Look, i think president obama understands that the top democratic president ial candidate Hillary Clinton is under fbi investigation and no good outcome to come from that. Either Justice Department will indict Hillary Clinton or more likely a lot hof people will have a crisis of faith in the fbi and Justice Department. People are going to believe justice isnt served. Either way it becomes an Obama Administration scandal. No longer simply about the future about Hillary Clinton and the democratic chances to take over or continuing their reign in the white house but it becomes an Obama Administration scandal and factor in that plus as kevin just pointed out all the democratic factions and up setting at least a third of the democratic base. Theres a lot going on and a lot that president obama is trying to hedge around. Are you also here the talk that some are getting the feeling Hillary Clinton might be damaged goods. Its a bit of a stretch given the stumble in the polls. Shes been through this before and she would fair no better as a nomination than Bernie Sanders. Some seem to be saying she could suffer the same fate. Why risk being rude or turn off Bernie Sanders or certainly his supporters. What do you make of that . Look, Bernie Sanders has a decent chance of winning iowa, very good chance of winning New Hampshire and youre looking at a changed primary granted Hillary Clinton so far does a lot better with black voters and minority voter that is Bernie Sanders needs to do better in order to have a chance of winning. Its more complicated than just going 20. Nonetheless, Hillary Clinton, she will have gone from the presumptive nominee. Everybody assumed this race was even more sewn up than it was in 2008 against obama. So being 02 and looking like a very bad candidate and bad general election can dand and you will see crisis in the Democratic Party. Certainly in the Hillary Clinton camp and white house about the future and about whats going on. So yeah, president obama needs to hedge his bets, he needs to not alien ate a third of the Democratic Party. Its important for him to do that as the leader of the Democratic Party himself. Daniel, well put. The weekly standard. All right. A lot of people are making a big deal of apple shares sliding again today. Up close to 30 from their highs reached late last year. What if i told you it isnt just the fact it cant sell as many iphones. What if i told you this gets backseat to you and me, all of us, were just not into gadgets anymore or at least changing them so frequently. We still play with them but dont need to upgrade every other second. Maybe thats whats going on. And maybe these why apple should be very, very worried. Stick around. Ronald reagan passed up a chance to debate george bush, sr. And losts the caucuses. A message to donald trump not to do the same depends on who you talk to after this. And, only 50 calories a serving. Good morning, indeed. V8. Veggies for all. 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That thing of course is the iphone and thats a lot to sell but it was considered a disappointment. Furthermore, the company telegraphed the continued slowdown which brings us to the bigger question, maybe this isnt about nuance numbers in markets. Maybe its about us. That were just not into constantly upgrading and updating our phone es. That they have become the modern day desk top computers. Remember the 90s and 2000s when people said enough already. Were not going to keep upgrading every time you guys throw us whistles. What do you think . Coming from you mr. Gadget geek you had to be the first person with an iwatch. That is so stupid. Now you dont wear it. Because its the equivalent of wearing a mood ring. Its so uncool. No. No. No. Im wearing one on my ankle and ill leave it at that. All right. What is going on here . All right. You are on to something. Maybe we are just committed and devoted to our old iphones. Were in these long term relationships if you will. They might be haggered and beaten up. A little slower. But for now, were committed to him. Every date i ever went on. That was the final thing that drew them in. Haggered. Slow. Not cool. Actually have some numbers on this to prove your point. Go back before the iphone 6 was released in september of 2014. Only 40 of people who owned iphones before that 6 came out has upgraded to the newer version. So you have three out of five iphone owners today or three out of five back in september 2014 who have not upgraded to new phones. Theres a lot of pentup demand. As men will understand youll want a trophy iphone. Slimmer and lighter and newer and prettier and sexier and more new. Maybe new is the wrong word. You know what i mean. Youre talking about a phone. The new phone, the 7 is supposed to be slimmer. You know what theyre saying with that one, oh, boy, it will be well worth the wait and its coming in the fall and normally thats what people do, they buy that. What if they dont . What else does apple have to fall back on . Thats dangerous. There have been some speculation theyre going to come out with a smaller phone. You have to be careful if you start coming out with Cheaper Products because that is its bread and butter. Ill tell you this. Were kind of lulled into a sense of security because we get the free upgrade, the operating system upgrade. But i just upgraded to one. And my battery life, well, its less than it leaves something to be desired. I would use an s word but i might get into trouble. You think . That could get people to upgrade. This is a 6 by the way if any fellow is interested in buying me a new phone. Why is it a given that the allure is and you said it as a woman, the new one will be thinner . Why dont women gravitate to fatter . Because we like our purses to be light. Oh, okay. Okay. Did i tell you that i stayed within 100 pounds of my wedding weight . Doesnt count. Thank you very much. Love ya. Isnt she the best . Love her. As she was speaking were getting some of these things coming up. Very different from apple and its numbers. The stock is up about 8 . Earnings, revenues, users, the worldwide domination of facebook that started out as a guide trying to get dates in college. Hes now a multibillionaire and he got richer in after hours trading today. Is there no god . Well have more after this. Okay. It is quinns time on your world. What do Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon have in common with this debate story and donald trump skipping out or planning to skip out on the big fox news debate . Ill tell you. Ronald reagan in 1980 with george bush, sr. Opted not to debate him and lost the caucuses. He went on to win when he regrouped and had that famous microphone moment in New Hampshire. Richard nixon though after feeling that he was most critics would agree in the 1960 series of president ial debates opted not to debate his challengers in 1968 or 1972 when he was running for reelection and did not hurt Richard Nixon then. He went on to win obviously the presidency back and reelected in a landslide and we know what else happened. Today the former chief political analyst of the register. If youll indulge me. It isnt always fatal not to debate but is there a difference in passing up one like this right before the Iowa Caucuses . Well, its a different both of those were different eras. Reagan did take a hit and i think thats the same reason donald trump is taking criticism now. Iowans expect to be courted. They have time for the closing statements if you will. People want to waiting to make up their minds and donald trump bails out. So i think this hurts him. Just as it hurt reagan in 80. This was a mistake reagan did not make and knew he made because he fired john sears as his campaign manager. Youre right. I forgot about that. Let me ask you david about the difference it makes with the debate in iowa if it were in atlanta or in charleston, would it be as much of an impact . You know, i think there would be a lot of impact. Were in the age of television, everything is everywhere and its instant. I think it is important that its here. But i think the last debate in any president ial campaign is going to have an impact. I dont care where it is. He wont be rewarded, donald trump will not be rewarded for all the debates. Hes got perfect attendance but that would matter, iowans would be angry . Theyll be up happy and it might be a strategic error in the sense that we have all the talk about donald trump being a frontrunner but if you look at the polling a lot of his people say they could be persuaded to change their mind. There are undecideds and in the caucus itself which is a neighborhood meeting people talk to one another and people make up their minds at the very last minute. So this is a chance for donald trump to make his closing argument, to fend off the attacks. Now hes going to be the subject of all kinds of attacks on that stage. Hes not going to be there to answer and these other candidates for the first time in the campaign are going to be given a shot of oxygen. How much does it help is that one of the candidates calling . How much will it help ted cruz . Oh, i think it helps ted cruz. I think he is you know, hes running in second place. Right. And he has taken a lot of hits himself. Hes going to have the stage to himself. And so this is going to help him. All right. David, thank you very much. I know you have got to be slightly busy these next few days. Maybe ill bump into you in your fine state in a couple of days. Thank you, david. Great. I want to show you something that just floored me. Look at these huge crowds for Bernie Sanders. What if i told you these crowds arent in iowa. Theyre not in New Hampshire. Theyre in minnesota. Thats one of the super tuesday stakes. So to those who think hes a flash in if pan, does really well in iowa and New Hampshire, of course hes going to do well in vermont. I dont know about that. I dont know at all. Announcer a horrific terror attack in paris. Then, a brutal act of terror here at home. Its time for a tested and proven leader who wont try to contain isis. Jeb bush has a plan. To destroy them. And keep america safe. Jeb bush the United States should not delay in leading a Global Coalition to take out isis with overwhelming force. Announcer tested and proven leadership matters. Jeb bush. Right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. Put ebay in the category of the trendsetter. It is a worrisome one. It is indicating its fourth straight decline. A disappointing Earnings Report that by and large has seen the stock fall about 7. 5 in after hours trading. Again, not enough global bang for the buck there. Ebay down after hours. Back to the political. The passion for Bernie Sanders, it is hard to believe but crowds that are galvanizing are not just in places you would think. Like his neighboring state of New Hampshire. Keep in mine, he is a vermont senator but he is seeing crowds in iowa and minnesota which is one of the super tuesday states. Real clear Political Writer rebecca, im comparing this with his meeting with barack obama. It is as if the powers that be in the Democratic Party are saying, you know, he could pull this off. What do you think . Certainly. I think were past the point of democrats being incredulous at Bernie Sanders and were well into the territory where he is a credible candidate now. Obviously, weve seen him leading in New Hampshire by a wide margin. He is now competitive in iowa. Even if he wins just one of those states, he has momentum going into South Carolina and nevada and of course into super tuesday. So Bernie Sanders is for real. I think were seeing broad acceptance of that with democrats. I think what they were saying, sure, he might be able to take New Hampshire. He is a vermont senator. Mitt romney, the same argument for him. But iowa would be a different story. Catching fire in the southern state, catching a lot of attention in what is an enigmatic state like minnesota. You could be changing the Playing Field, couldnt you . He is. One of the big, i guess, seeds of doubt that democrats tried on plant oriole in Clintons Campaign tried to plant, was that he had a very narrow appeal within the Democratic Party. He would only appeal to white liberals and no one else. He wouldnt have that broad appeal that he could use to win super tuesday states and others. I think were seeing that disproven right now. Not only in iowa but in minnesota where he had this big rally this week. It was a very large crowd. You can see that he is appealing far beyond that liberal white base. Surely he has cemented that support. It is a threat to Hillary Clinton. Thats why she is coming out with guns blazing against him at this point. I talk to one person who really hates the guy, conservative, i hate everything he stands for but i admire that he stands for it and has throughout his career. Maybe thats what is galvanizing this. Thank you. We have these dueling events to show you. Wheres trump . In South Carolina. Isnt that interesting . Hi mom hi every mom is a coach. An artist. Sometimes even a zoologist. Every mom is a working mom. And its working moms everywhere who inspired us to work harder. So we made our banquet meals even better. With mashed potatoes now made with real cream and chicken strips with 100 natural chicken breast. So now, theres more to love with banquet. Now serving. A better banquet. Yoir may be the center of the political universe but Donald Trumps first big speaking event isnt in iowa. It is in South Carolina. But carl cameron is in west des moines. What do you make of just that . That little detail. He has his own flame so he can jump to the early voting states and back. And he has made it clear that while he wont be on the debate stage tomorrow, he plans to raise money for veterans and wounded warriors. Thats what the tweets and statements have been about. He hand said where or with whom. And he doesnt say exactly when. But it is pretty clear he wont be on the debate stage and hes getting pounded for it. Ted cruz challenged him to a mano y mano debate. And today he responded not exactly saying no. But he said where will it be . Canada . Right at the teeth of ted cruz on his eligibility, of course. So the battle doesnt start. The fight between rubio and cruz. Cruz will have an event here in iowa as well. The tv ads are just everywhere and the campaign is at pace. So trumps absence, he is getting attention for it but he will lack the attention of being with his rivals four dates before the first votes of 2016. That could be a very, very costly price. He is clearly gambling it. Hes had casinos and resorts. He knows how to gamble. I guess he figures there is a possibility that they rim ted cruz apart. Hell be in the Center Podium position. They already are. What this move by trump has done has allowed the candidates to get personal. Theyre personally involved in it. Ted cruz has all but accused trump of being afraid. And not living up to the expectations of the electorate which is to say not qualified by talking to voters. Rand paul back on the debate stage, having been relegated to the second tier in the last goaround couldnt wait to say his presence and trumps absence will raise the i. Q. Of the participant. So this is not a joke. People in iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina take it really seriously. To give you an idea of how f fanatical they are. The record is 122,000. A very, very tight group of people and they care. And you care. Carl cameron. Thank you for joining us. Hello. Its 5 00 in new york city and this is the five. We are 24 hours away from the final gop debate before mondays vote in iowa and theres a little bit of news that broke after the lineup was set. Did you hear . There will only be seven candidates on the stage instead of eight. The frontrunner of the republican race, donald trump, has pulled out. He objected to megyn kelly being one of the moderators who he thought was not fair at the first debate but fox wouldnt cave. The candidates who will be attending tomorrow night have a