Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Your World With Neil Cavuto 20130828

Willing to work hard regardless of race into the ranks of the middle class life. Welcome, everybody. Im neil cavuto. In 1963 Martin Luther king wasnt just fighting for racial equality, he was actually fighting for jobs and economic justice. Think about it. He died that way. A theme this president is continuing today. To hear americas first africanamerican governor tell it, we have certainly come a long way, and we have a long way to go. As Martin Luther king paved the way for an africanamerican president , this man i guess sort of hit the skids. Virginias former democratic governor with us. Governor, its a real pleasure to have you. Neil, good to be with you. You talk about this sort of weird juxtaposition between looking at the advancement and improvement weve made on things like racial equality, but not when it comes to just economic quality and the president himself mentioned it and said this is Something Party and generations have done. What is it that we cant budge . First of all, kings dream was based on the opportunity made available for people to live the american dream. Consequently, the key at that time for all persons involved with the civil rights leadership was education. He felt if you could unlock the door, it would open other doors to advancement. Unfortunately in todays economy, we find too many unemployed africanamericans. We find too many instances and too many kids dropping out of school. We find too much violence in the communities. We find less parental involvement and we find communities throwing up their hands in di despair too many tis rather than saying were not going to tolerate this, were going to knuckle down, buckle down, and understand that we dont need to look back 50 years. We need to look for the day, the moment, and the now to understand what we can do in our own communities involving everybody to move our youngsters ahead so that i they can participate as king had dreamed. You know, governor, as youre saying that, im hearing the president s remarks today on top of Martin Luther kings remarks, that we always had, and i think you have now, very good intentions. We put a good amount of money behind it. After the trillion spent on a war on poverty that was started a little more than a year after doctor kings remarks, we still have just as high a percentage of americans in poverty. So Many Americans still starving, and when one out of three of them gets some sort of food assistance. What happened . The unfortunately thing, neil, if you look to the federal government to provide the leadership and all of the impetus necessary to move us forward, we lose the grassroots involvement of the people at the local level. All politics is local, and when you consider that education is at the local level, when you consider that the people who need to be a part of nurturing these youngsters, to let them see the value of education, one of dr. Kings mentor, benjamin may, he said education is inturin sing because it intrinsic because it has value within itself. Weve lost that communication to our youngsters. As long as we continue to lose that and make them believe that all theyve got to do is wait and something is going to happen as so many people say, we need another dr. King, that is not the answer. King would never stand for whats going on today. He would say lets do our own thing. Lets do it together, and lets not wait. Governor doug wilder, always a pleasure. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Always good. Well, is the next civil rights battle actually going to be in classroom . The Justice Department speaking on the Louisiana School Voucher Program allowing students to transfer out of publi failing pc schools and into private ones. The Justice Department says it will impact the racial balance in some district still under desegregation orders. Louisiana governor bobby jindal said its the doj thats discriminating. Governor, very good to have you. Neil, thank for having me today. Talk about weird timing, right . This dust up right on Martin Luther king day. What do you think . You know, its amazing to me. The department of justice, the Obama Administration are using the same rules designed to protect minority children to actually keep them trapped in failing public schools. Weve got 8,000 kids in the scholarship program. 100 are low income. 100 came out of c, d, or f public schools. 93 of their parents are happier in the schools that theyre in. 100 of their parents chose to put them in other schools. Were saving taxpayers money, delivering a better education, and the governor is right. The speech was amazing 50 years ago, that we should be judged by the content of our character, not the color of our skin. Hes exactly right. To achieve that dream, were trying to do that in louisiana. My parents came here over 40 years ago in search of the american dream, confident if you worked hard, it didnt matter what race you were or who you knew. Thats what were trying to deliver for our kids. Thats why its just ridiculous to me that the Obama Administration would side with teachers unions over these young children. Do you think that was the case, that this was teachers unions winning out and they didnt like this for fear of where it would go and it might endanger their jobs . Oh, absolutely. Look. They tried to take us all the way up to the state Supreme Court to stop this program. The teachers unions did. The program is still here. They tried recalling our speaker of the house and me and some others. Were still here. The reality is when teachers unions when we started this state wide said parents dont have a clue when making choices for their kids. Thats their world viewpoint. The government unions think the bureaucrats know better. It will break your heart. Theyre working mowlt jobs, trying to do the right thing. Theyre telling me this is the first time my kid is bringing home homework, my kid goes to school with discipline. My kids talk about for the first time going to college, the first one to graduate from high school in the family. Thats exactly what we want to happen. These are moms wanting their sons and daughters to live the american dream, and youve got the Obama Administration playing politics. To me, its ridiculous. Youre taking the same rules designed to protect the most vulnerable kids and saying theyre going to trap kids in failing schools. Theyre coming from c, d, or f schools. An f school means up to half the kids are at grade level. Half or more are below grade level. No kid should be forced to go to those schools. Look. You know, eric holder is not sending his kids to those schools and neither i is the president. Lets give the kids a chance. Governor, maybe what the administration is saying we favor another approach, something that your republican gubernatorial colum colleague cs christie is doing in new jersey and thats an extension of this pay for performance. It staed as a National Education Department Initiative and kristi put his own measures behind it where if you each in a bad area, youre getting good results or good test scores with those kids, you get a bonus up to a 12,500 bonus depending on the scores, depending on the graduation rate, etc. Thats the way theyre going, not the Charter School route. What do you think . Well, you know, the reality is weve got 40,000 kids in Charter Schools. They didnt challenge that. They challenged the scholarship program. We changed our tenure and hiring and firing policies linking all the student achievement. The same judge tried to stop us from doing the tenure reforms in a parish with desegment orders. Fortunately we went to an pellet court and we temporarily won there. Well have a full hearing in the appellate court. It shouldnt be about the race of the kid or politics or teacher unions. It should be about student achievement. Theres two visions here. One is that you give every child a chance to work hard, get a great education, pursue the american dream. Then youve got the president s view which is all about redistribution. Its about equal outcomes, and not qiewl opportunity. Thats what is despicable. Martin luther king said every child should have an opportunity to pursue the dream. My dad is one of nine, got past the fifth grade. I wouldnt be here today without him. That starts with a great education. Thats what makes this so pernicious. All these kids want is a great education. Who are they heart yo hurting . Theyre saving taxpayers money, theyre doing great in school. The program is successful. Last were we had 10,000 kids apply. We were able to place 5,000 of them. This year it was 12,000 kids applied and we played a lo 8,00. Theres huge demand. Patients juan guevar want out oe failing schools. The only ones way are politicianses listening to the unions. The government needs to stand down. I mentioned before governor Chris Christie. If youll endulling me indulge. He made a swipe at you. Im not going to be one of these people who goes and calls the party stupid. We need to stop naval gazing. You said we dont want to be the party of stupid. Do you think he was taking a swipe at you, and were you offended . Look. Im not offended. Im trying to get chris reelected. Im sorry. Im head of the rga. Were trying to help chris get reelected in new jersey. Hes done a great job for the people of new jersey. Im trying to help the governor of virginia. Did you call him up after that and say hey, what gives . No, look. Chris and i see each other all the time. Ill say this, two things. One, we absolutely have to be as a party we have to be smarter. We lost an election last year that i thought we could have won. Im willing to speak the hard truths and say what we need to do. I dont think we need to become another Democratic Party or abandon our principles. I wrote an op ed ironically several weeks ago saying weve got to stop the nativ navel gaz. Chris and i get along. You dont think he was talking about you there and taking a swipe at you there . It seems that way to me. Look, i have no idea, and i really dont care about. What i care about is helping him win his reelection and helping ken win his election. In 2014 we have dozens of governors up. Its mportant to me in the Republican Party to stand for conservative principles. Im going to speak the hard truths. When its time to tell my party to do something different, weve got to be smarter, stop saying dumb things and fight for our principals. Education is a choice. Sticking with our principles. When i had ron paul on, he took a dim view of governor Chris Christie and he didnt like the way he and his son rand paul had gotten into the dust up over who is a real republican and what really matters, and im getting a sense, governor, that on issues like surveillance, on issues like the intruciveness of government, there are the main streamers in the party and those who just say hands off, even extending now to whether we go into syria or not. This is the real battle going on for the soul of the party. Well, lets talk about the issue, the dust up between the two of them about surveillance. Theres a healthy tension in the Republican Party. Theres a good thing weve got libertarian tendencies within our party. Which tendencies do you have, more of the rand paul or the Chris Christie cool it because it keeps us safe. No, no. Look. We need to keep ourselves safe but we need to protect ourselves from intrusive government. I think the waters edge is important. Look. I dont mind us using surveillance and drones, killing terrorists abroad. I do have grave concerns about the governor using some of those same tactics here at home, but we need to have those debates with this administration. Look at all these scandals, irs, benghazi. This is a result of overly large, intrusive government. Because of the Obama Administration, we want to limit government. The founding facts wanted a limited government. Lets not give up our security, but we can have our freedom as well. Governor bobby jindal, thank you very much. Before we even launch missiles over there, is the retaliation already here . Thats right for you, including the lexus es and ct hybrids. This is the pursuit of perfection. Now you can give yourself a kick in the rear v8 vfusion plus energy. Natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. Need a little kick . Ooh couldve had a v8. In the juice aisle. We provide the exact individualization that your body needs. 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He spoke with his german counterpart by telephone today. U. S. Navy warships are standing by. The president has been presented a range of options by the pentagon. U. S. Navy destroyers and submarines are ready, but the timing of any strike now reftsz with the diplomats rests with the diplomats and the white house. We believe that its too late for the un inspection to be credible given the mass shelling that the regime has done in the affected areas, and were going to make our own decisions on our own time lines about our response. Obviously we will continue consultations with our International Partners around the world, but we are making decisions based on our own time line. Reporter the white house does not believe it will achieve a Un Security Council resolution. The administration also does not believe it will get the full support of nato. Right now it looks like the british, french, turnish, and australians have agreed to join the u. S. In a military strike. Un inspectors have permission to stay in syria until sunday unless theyre pulled out before then. Thank you very much, jennifer. Is this something we really should be getting involved in here . Former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld isnt so sure because he doesnt see any clear vibes as what were going to do. Former texas congressman ron paul said absolutely not. This is a big mistake. Theyre both going to be my guests tonight. From chemical wa warfare to cyber warfare, Internet Users on high alert because syrias Electronic Army is right now on the prowl. The group, very sympathetic to syrian president assad, and wreaking all sorts of havocs. In a series of tweets believed to be posted by this group, they claimed responsibility forr hacking a handful of western Media Companies just yesterday including the New York Times and twitter. Were warned that this type of warfare is especially dangerous and now its getting to be especially common, huh . Oh, it is probably the greatest threat to our National Security now. Cyber warfare will attack our markets, our infrastructure, our government. Those are the biggest threats to our security right now as we see it. In fact, bloomberg just reported august 7th that were looking at 53 of the exchanges already experiencing attacks. So we are in a very risky environment. Im sorry. Are those from this group . Not in particular from this group, but considering that this group is making a statement, we have to wonder if theyre basically saying you attack our government, we will get worse, and because they can do such egregious cyber attacks, what will they hit next . Thats our biggest fear. Jessie, i always look at these kind of attacks where they up the ante and gone after newspaper on line sites and whether it was this group or others that got into amazon sites and temporarily shut it down, even the nasdaq site and shut it down for three hours plus, these are sort of warm up events for something more. Am i just being too, you know, paranoid . No, youre not paranoid at all. Cyber security is probably the greatest threat, as i said, and whats happened is that this organization does support the assad government. They went after media sites to ensure that their message is getting heard. We have to take a step back and look at with cyber security, when we have our markets and our exchanges so vulnerable, many of our investors are now hesitating, wondering are we looking at the oil plants out there in the middle east getting attacked next . If they can get into our infrastructure such as our electrical grids, our water ways, were looking at blackouts. Werer looking at planes disrupting. Were looking at not even being able to take the railways to work if electricity is out. And they have that technical ability because they keep doing it. Yep. Jesse jane duff, thank you very much. Thank you. Well, they called it m lk care, and to hear the president say martin would have liked obama care. Really, did anyone check with martin on that . We believe it can be the most valuable real estate on earth. Thats why we designed the Subaru Forester from the back seat forward. The intelligently designed, responsibly built, completely restyled Subaru Forester. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. You need a girls weekend and you need it now. Ladies, lets goo vegas. Cute waiter girls weekend here priceline savings without the bidding. Youve heard this once or twice, but if Martin Luther king, jr. Were alive today, boom, boom, boom, heres the latest, boom, boom, boom. Would he be singing obama cares praises . President obama thinks so. When asked, the president said oh, he would like that because i think he understood that health care, Health Security is not a privilege. Its something that in a country as wealthy as ours everybody shoulshould have access to. Democrat turned republican Elbert Guillory has a very different take on that. What do you make of that . Do you think Martin Luther king would embrace this . Good afternoon. I think that to wrap obama care around Martin Luther king is a cheap hijacking of Martin Luther kings image and a slap in the face to every american. Why . Martin luther king stood for three things, the pillars of american dream, for education, for jobs, and for justice. To now take his image on this special, special anniversary and try to use for some petty partisan gain his image is just despicable. Its aapproaches. You know, i was trying to give the benefit of the doubt, senator, to what he meant by that. Im sure Martin Luther king would embrace the idea of providing health care for everyone. I dont know if he would embrace the idea of up ending our entire Health Care System to do it, but having said that, what do you think stepping back from all this, this constant i quoting ts is what king would have liked. This is what m lk would have done, this is what he would have embraced . You know, sadly, hes dead. We dont know. Yet his name is attached to causes and still more Government Spending even by a variety of preachers and Group Organizers today saying just that. How do we know . I think they should put up or shut up. If they believe in what king said and what king stood for, then they, too, should do, should behave in that way instead of trying to rip little black kids out of schools in louisiana and private schools into which vouchers have put them, instead of spending all of americas treasury in foreign lands and exporting the jobs therefore to those foreign lands while americans go unemployed. Instead of doing those things, i mean, stand up. Stand up for jobs and for justice and for education. Theyre doing exactly the opposite. Thats a disgrace to Martin Luther kings memory. One of the things youre trying to do to clarify that memory and what he stood for is free at last, but its a Political Action committee that espouses what you and your supporters believe is theon going message of dr. King. What is that . Yes. We are trying to get the message out. The message of real freedom in america, the message that the government is only a big plantation, and that americans should break away from that plantation and live the american dream. Live the jobs and education and justice dream that martin king had. Join us at the freeatlastpac. Com. Were trying to get the word out. Were working with a young lady in utah right now. We have a special project coming up. Weve identified one of the things that we do is to identify and recruit persons who could represent the Minority Community better than those who are already representing us now. But you and i theres a young lady in illinois. Go ahead. Im sorry. Theres a young lady in illinois that were working with, so were moving around the country, getting the message out and doing the recruiting. Were living the dream and not talking about it. Why is it that the and you and i chatted about this before, senator. As a mono lithic block, youuld e m onolithic than the black vote. Democrats have succeeded in convincing minorities that republicans dont care and they say that by showing republicans opposition to Government Programs that i guess equilt with that care. How do republicans counter that . One of the things is to do what louisiana governor bobby jindal has said, and thats to be more wise in our choice of words, keep our toes out of our mouths. This foot in mouth business that weve done too often has hurt us. Like what. The 47 comment mr. Romney made, very unfortunate. It hurts. It hurt in many areas including people who had worked for many years and were retired and receiving government receiving pension checks. They felt unfairly tarred by that brush. Right. Thats what we have to get away from, and we have to show people that we do care. We have to go out into communities and let them see they need to see black republicans bringing the message, and they need to see white republicans standing beside us, delivering that same message so they know that we speak with one voice as a part. But youll always be portrayed as an uncle tom in the main stream media. How do you break through . I dont pay any attention to those slurs and threats and bad words that they use, but i try to get the message out. If i can speak to my brothers and sisters and if i can get their ears, then i can touch their hearts, and they will understand. All we have to do is look around. What is being done for us is not working. Look around at our education system, where our kids are dropping out at rates of 65 . Look around at the failing schools, most of which are in our neighborhood. Look around at jobs which we do not have. Unemployment is rampant in our community. Since that is not working for us, all we have to do is look around and see there is a better way. Theres another way. Senator guillory, thank you very much. Thank you. Neil, its always a pleasure to be with you. Same here. For those of you who say oh, its bigoted to hear talk like that, i want you to ask yourself something. Isnt it really more bigoted not to, you know . Anyway. Were coming in because this guy broke the chemical weapons out. Now, if thats the litmus test for intervening, whats to stop future despots from next time just shooting . We go, go, we dont have to go solo fire, fire, you can take me higher take me to the mountains, start a revolution hold my hand, we can make, we can make a contribution brandnew season, keep it in motion cause the rhyme is the reason break through, man, it doesnt matter who youre talking to [ male announcer ] completely redesigned for whatever you love to do. The allnew nissan versa note. Your door to more. Your door to more. Could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Mmmhmmm. Everybody knows that. Well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller . Your word is. Cow. Cow. Cow. C. O. W. E. I. E. I. O. [buzzer] dangnabbit. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you. Well, you know. 100,000 People Killed over two years in syria, but when a few hundred are killed, in an parent chemical attack, thats where we draw the line. It got me thinking. That happens sometimes. If chemical weapons had been used, say, in darfur, would the u. S. Have intervened back then . My next guest said brutality is brutality. No matter how people are killed, theyre killed, and theyre still very much dead, no matter the means. The former cia operative wayne means is with us. Thats the lit u litmus test the days. Not saying its good or bad. 100,000 were killed by other means other than chemical weapons, and we didnt react to that. What do you main make of that . Yeah, neil. Its reprehensible. You and i both know as do most americans that dead is dead. I dont care whether it comes from an ak47, a 6239 or an ah platform, an m 4, ied, bombs from the air. It doesnt matter. What we know for a fact in my opinion is that this was a phony mark in the sand that was put forward by an administration that does not want to take a position and back the right group which we now know who that right group is. Who is it. Its the f scht a beyonsa bey shadow of a doubt. I received a briefing by a general who came back again. He is doing the job of the agency, quite fangly, and thats unfortunately. We should not have to send over americans in humanitarian capacities to try to develop the intel to see that the fsa is actually our secretaryiat. If we could get the United States up on secretariats back, we could let the fsa win with the war. The United States must bomb two fassmentfacilities. One is to take out the air support. Two, they must absolutely knock out the command and control center of the palace. If they do that, then the 100,000 we believe up to 100,000 fsa troops supported by general riyadh and eighth of the most powerful generals can go in and end this chaos. Back to what is bringing us to this point, and that is again those chemical weapons, and that is again the images of these women and children and other innocents who were cleared gassed and essentially choked to death. Now, those are heinous images to see. Bodies tied up along the street by the hundreds. Im often reminded, wayne, and you and i have gotten into this before as well, of serbia, of ra rawanda, whether they were machine gunned or macheted or nighted, in some cases, whole villages beaten to death. Thats a lot of people. A lot of horrific images, and im thinking theyre all corpses. Theyre all victims. Theyre all innocents, but weve drawn the line at chemical weapons which mitre or might not be good. Im not here to judge that, but what is the magic of the means by which they were killed when many are killed . Well, neil, as you pointed out, you and i have had this discussion many times in the past. It is as an enigmatic and mysterious line in the sand, and it appears to me those in darfur, as you pointed out, were similaritied. We still have the christians being slaughtered today in africa on a daily basis by the muslim extremists and by those trying to take over in africanamericaafricaand certaie east. There is no magic. Its a political decision. There is no wand. Again, its a political decision. We need leadership in the white house. We do not have it. We have not had it for five years. Love president bushr or hate president bush, president bush made a decision. He made decisions based on the best available intel. The general and others in his group have provided that intelligence to the obama white house. They refused to listen. I can tell you unequivocally. We cannot, cannot, absolutely cannot just arbitrarily arm this Enigmatic Group called rebels. We have to understand that the fsa right now is secretariat. If you do not back them and let them clean this up for their people, and it will not cost yos one american life, we are in trouble. We shall see, wayne. We know whats getting us in there. How we get out is anyones guess. Thank you, my friend. Always a pleasure. These days, what does all of this prove . If assad aint going, guess what keeps soaring. On the news youre not hearing if bashar aint budging. Thai guess that prices at the pp go up, up, up, right . Hes basically stirring the pot here in the middle east where hes got an allout civil war going against his people. This is too close in proximity to the suez canal and could potentially disrupt up to 10 of the worlds oil supplies. Gasoline goes up at the pump. It will affect a lot of american pocketbooks. But oil is at 110 a barrel right now. Once it goes to unwith 14 to about 148, anywhere in that range, we see severe stock market corrections, you know, 10 all the way down to 50 . Normally we have seen economic slowdowns. That depends how long it lasts. The history of a lot of these sort of middle east blowups is ahead of our, you know, saber realityinrattling and actually , prices run up. Once were in and it looks good for us, the im being a little s here, prices go down. If it gets hectic, prices go up. What do you envision. Keep in mind, oil prices have been climbing since april of this year and have been steadily improving in the Global Economy thus far. Thats what can take out the Global Economy, too, if oil rises to that range. You can see the recession hit again, jobless rates spike up. That hits america right where it hurts the most also. Shaun, thank you very much. Well see how this pans out. Anotr factor i left out of there is what if the iraqis just stop producing oil or the iranians in a sympathy strike on production . You can have the same effect. Meanwhile, ahead of the walkout, why Charles Payne said if workers win this fight tomorrow, we are all fried. Test. Test. Fired up and ready to walk. Fast food workers planning another way to protest in dozens of cities tomorrow. Theyre demanding a 15 minimum wage and the right to unionize. Charles payne said that would serve up one super size problem in the economies. Well, first of all, for the workers, you know, i hate springing this on them. Its a low wage job, its a low skill job. They could be replaceable. The same people are saying im not making enough money to feed my kids, its certainly tougher if youre making zero. I dont begrudge anyone trying to make extra money. Theyre essentially trying to say their salary should be doubled from where they are. This has been eck code all day long with the theme of the march on washington. Somehow corporations owe a debt to people who work for them, so if susan has two kids, she gets x amount of income. Then she has another child, and then the corporation should pay more money specifically because they owe her a debt and she had another kid, sort of their responsibility of the welfare state thats been a burden on america is now being thrutsed or attempted to be thrusted. I that was clearly the messa. I think a lot of things that the president said today to me, it was sort of a disappointing speech in the sense that he took he just stripped out a few things from the Martin Luther king dream speech and layered on the populous antibusiness speech that hes been giving in front of colleges and High School Students all summer long. You didnt like it. I debit like it at all. Youre an africanamerican, youre looking at this. This is a big day. You mentioned to me earlier that you and your kids, m lk day, its a federal holiday day now. Its a time where you dont go out shopping, but i always wonder what Martin Luther king would think of that. You can buy tvs at a discount on this day. What do you tell them . What does the day mean to you. When you listen to the speeches every day, every king day and we read them out loud. Everyone takes turns and we read them out loud, typically three or four of them. Every single time we do it, i weep, i cry every single time. I watched malcolm x with my son for the first time a week ago and i cried like a baby at the end of the movie. I understand the struggle. I think the struggle has been hijacked, unfortunately, for political ideology that i quite frankly dont think Martin Luther king was talking about. You dont think he would have been supportive, as the president said, he would have been a big supporter of my Health Care Plan and others arguing today, various speakers long before the president came to the stand, government initiatives to help the poor and everything else, the trillions we spend. I think what Martin Luther king was talking about was this lonely island of poverty in a vast ocean of material prosperity. Thats what he talked about. Thats the line from the speech. He didnt talk about a broad middle class, you know. He used the word mobility in the speech. You dont want mobility from a small ghetto to a large ghetto. President obama is talking about a oo utopia where we all live happily ever half. Martin luther king told me i could be anything. If someone opens the door for me, run in the door. Ill tell you right now, when you talk about the content of character, it puts as much pressure on the individual as it does on society. I didnt hear that out of the president. 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It leads some to wonder if they could soon count lawsuits as well. In other words is this promoting heart attacks on a paper plate here . We have some guests here who say well, maybe. Dominic says the restaurants are inviting people to sue, but attorney Heather Hanson says no one forces you to eat there or anywhere. Heather, you say it is individual choice. It is individuals choice. Some states passed statutes, cheeseburger laws that say you cant sue if you become obese eating at a fast food restaurant. How are you proving it was mcdonalds, not the Dunkin Donuts or the pop tarts. You have been following me around. Just today. The causation is difficult or that it is not genetic. These types of lawsuits are just not going to succeed. What do you think . I think heather is right in one sense, the individual lawsuits have failed. But theres still a possibility that the state attorneys general could get involved and class action suits. Why, because of the public interest. Center for the science for public interest, cspi has done a good job bringing awareness. But to call for lower calorie healthier fare, are they legal or do they give you options . They give you options. Who are these innovations marketed at. Often times younger people, children. Thats one area where lawsuits succeeded, when they deceptively push, marketing is bad or theres fraud. For example, in 2007, trans fats, mcdonalds said they were pulling back on trans fats but were not. If you get obese because you ate burgers, thats your choice. The 2007 lawsuit, getting them to scale back on trans fat, why are they doing this though . Theyre come up with this because theyre getting fried by the competition. Burger king, number three, wendys number two. They should take a page out of chipotles book, better, healthier, fresher food. Isnt chipotle going back to the chemicals which i admired. Theyre now expanding saying theres limited supply of this stuff. Having said that, here is one thing i worry about. I believe if you go in a restaurant and dont know ordering one of these pretzel burgers or, you know, french fry burger, i didnt know know you have the bun, you know youre not eating a salad. I can see the point, maybe kids are impressionable, see the ad, buy this, doesnt have to be kids, everybody, but thats choice, right . Absolutely. And they give you now nutritional information, under the law they have to provide nutritional information. The occasional french fry, burger is fine. It is everything in moderation. You have to choose how to raise your children as well. Parents tried to file a Class Action Lawsuit on behalf of their children in california. And that was thrown out. The judge said it is a parents job. Why are they giving more information . Because they have been sued because of some of the legal actions. Guys like you chasing them, eating the salads. Find a way to get into this. Theyre trying with fast food. But slapping four fries on a burger patty, is this where it is at . Where does the mcrib fit in. Thats the greatest invention ever, ever people die for that mcrib and may be dying for the french fry burger. They tease it, bring it back, take it away. At a certain point, government is going to step in. All right. Thank you, guys, very much. On a day like this, everyone is quoting Martin Luther king. What would he think. It is getting past the obvious. Tonight were looking at the message he sent then to what were abusing, trying to capitalize on now. 8 00 p. M. , fbn. Along with support, Chantix Varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. It reduces the urge to smoke. I knew that i could smoke for the first 7 days. I knew that i wasnt putting nicotine back into my body to try to quit. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. 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