Neil i want you to meet andrew, after rushing through a law to combat gun violence in new york is rushing to make sense of it. Neil welcome, im neil cavuto. Introduced on monday, signed into law on tuesday and big oh, oh. So urgent and fast, what have they wrote . New york governor threeday review to ram through that gun law, just one problem, folks who actually stopped to read it are now confused by it. Here is why. The police are worried fearing that ban on magazines with more than seven bullets may also apply to them to cops that use twice that amount. Governors office says, no, Police Officers possessing clips more than 7 bullets are not in violation of the law and they never will be, period. So to amend the law to exempt the police if the governor doesnt do so himself. All of this, my next guest says, if the law wasnt rammed through in the first place. New york senator voted against it, wants a petition drive to repeal it and urge all her fellow lawmakers to at least read it. It would appear they did not. What do you think they should do now . We set up an online petition to encourage residents in new york to come out and sign our petition, to sign the petition because of some of what we believe in the law is unconstitutional. Neil leaving aside some of the constitutional stuff but now you have basic features like disqualification on gun magazine rounds that would have been easily spotted checked or even fact checked had they just gone through it and run it by the police. If you are talking about the magazines going from ten to seven, yeah, they have dropped the magazine. It cant be any larger than 7. The seven magazine is currently made. Neil now they have to go back to the drawing board and rewrite something or submit something new. Governors office says is not necessary but you say it is, why . Because it is law so the law is standing. What im looking to do is bring back parts of that law to have it repealed and replaced by new legislation. Neil all right. Senator, i apologize for audio issues. Well keep track of it. I said a million times, its like when you were in school. Anything you do at the last second, you probably didnt do that great on. Now to something else, president s healthcare law we are finding more about it as each day goes by. There is two day symposium to train journalists how to report on it sponsored by the Commonwealth Fund who president is David Blumenthal. Something tells me among the speakers you wont find this lady, former state lieutenant governor, she is a frequent critic of obamacare and she has a new book out beating obamacare. When you went to the symposium who understand the law so they can report on it, you got more than a bad law issue . Thats right. I laughed when i heard about the symposium because the left leaning Commonwealth Fund is noted for slanting its research to support that view and Commonwealth Fund is being run by David Blumenthal one of chief architects of it. So it wont be balanced. The Commonwealth Fund is largely responsible for the misconceptions and Incorrect Information that led many members of congress to vote for this giant law without ever reading it. Ill give you an example. One day on the floor of senate, senator kent conrad pointed t charted courtesy of the Commonwealth Fund that u. S. Ranked 19th out of 19 countries for the quality of its healthcare. Behind that was a bag of tricks commonwealth study that actually mixed up incidents of Heart Disease with survival rates from Heart Disease. Of course, the u. S. Has high rates of Heart Disease because of obesity and smoking, bad behavior, not bad medicine. Neil you remind need of this. When you rush anything through, even people that purportedly supporting the headlines, havent read the copy that goes with the report. Im reminded recently of the clip deal that raised the top rates on the richest americans. Another democratic congressman, you realize the top rate is higher and i said no, it isnt. You are making that up. We are not including state taxes. Neither am i am including the surtax on medicare. 3. 8 . Neil and they said made that up. Its in your law, reading it to you. They swore, its not there. You now have this dilemma in new york, you have a dilemma with the healthcare law. Its sort of like the gift that keeps giving. 20page bills in plain honest english that lawmakers at the state and federal level will actually read before they vote on this them. 20 pages, framers of our constitution framed our government in 18 pages. There should be symposiums to help the reporters to do a more responsible job of covering healthcare. Frankly they were somewhat come police it in the public getting bamboozled. Neil here is what is scary. Here is what should be pushing and you should be saying. You missing the good in this. Maybe other things that i am not aware of, but my point is that is a little weird . Yes, bu where is the reporters when it comes to looking at the facts. Remember the president saying skyrocketing health spending. That was the word the white house used every single day. They were on message, skyrocketing healthcare costs. The president told us domestic crisis of our time. We have to pass the Affordable Care act because the burden on families in the nation is so great. In fact healthcare spending was increase more slowly in 2009, 2010, 2011 than at any time at any time in 9 last half century. Anesthesia reversing drugs but the fact is now that the government says wait until you see the skyrocketing health care under obamacare. Neil again, im not atom splitter but if you required 30 million americans, whatever the noble intentions are, there is no way premiums will not go up to cover that. There is no tooth fairy. If you force Insurance Companies to cover more you will have to pay more. Neil amazing. The only woman in the country who has read this, only person that has read this. Everything she telegraphed was dead right on. You might want to read it. The governor of new york goes to weapons and they sound good on paper, but if you dont read them you will betsy on your tail. Dow is up on the day. Throughout all of this we are fiveyear high on the dow. S p 500 similarly at fiveyear high. So weve got the markets struggling along nicely. There is a variety of reasons for that. Having everything to do with Companies Reporting better than expected earnings and economy is coming out of the woods. We have had three weeks of an up market. So many are saying this continues, it will make a mockery of all the critics and all this administration. If alqaeda is on the move is it time for us to move in . What does ron paul have to say . Ron paul is here. [ male announcer ] dont just reject convention. Drown it out. Introducing e allnew 2013 lexus ls f sport. 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I think it would be foolish. I think what weve been doing for so many years has been foolish. Think ought to try to understand what blow back is all about and what the c. I. A. Has talked about and what michael cher has demonstrated in his work in the c. I. A. Its just way too much. It hurts us to no end. One of the points i made when i gave my last little talk on the house floor was that one of the trends and problems we are facing was violent antiamericanism, its all over the world. That is what is happening. We have a mess in egypt now. We dont know exactly what we are supposed to be doing in syria. We end up supporting and even hillary had an expression, how did we know the bad guys were going to get these things . I say what is happening in mali and hostages, its a spinoff from us getting involved in libya and getting rid of khadafy. One thing leads to another. All these problems we have makes my case clear that we should have followed the founders advice of staying out the alliances and staying out of internal affairs of other nations, mind our own business and save a dollar now and then because were flat out broke. Neil the argument you get back, congressman, well regret that because well give the bad guys free run. Argument what they were just claiming is that, terrorists are not idiots. They can pack up and leave and if things get dicey for them in pakistan, they move to mali or algeria. They seem to be pretty good at movement. Bigger question, should we do anything about that or do we just let them brazenly go unobstructed . We have to decide why we have the problem. If we decide its spontaneous and they hate americans and there is alqaeda that dont like our prosperity and they dont like our freedoms. You keep chasing them. If the problem of these threats toward us and disruption is because were involved and the answer is be less involved. Neil what it is more about than that . What if they really do hate us and they really all about whatever the over tures. They cant stand it. They want us dead. They might ask the same question. We brought up a lot of hatred to go 6,000 miles away and kill people with drones. This is where the conflict is coming. We have to beat the drums of war in this hatred and go and do these things and then all of a sudden we have an epidemic of suicides of american soldiers that come back what am i doing over here shooting drone missiles and little kids dying. All of a sudden they come back and more people die from suicides our soldiers are committing suicide. I think it is a failed policy. It doesnt accomplish anything and if we dont understand it. As long as we dont want to look at it or in denial. C. I. A. Helps us on this to explain why there is retaliation. If we dont accept that, it is going to get much worse. There are predictions because they havent hit us here at home doesnt mean they are starting to like us anymore. I think the problem is growing. Its going to get a lot worse as long as we think we are the king of the world. Neil thank you very much, i think. It is clear we are dealing with a mobile enemy in africa which makes fighting a lot harder. What is the best way to counterattack. We dont have a lot of money to counterattack. My next guest says go after their money. Wayne, explain. At first, let me quickly respond to congressman pauls last statement that is we shouldnt act like kings of the world. If we did kings of the world much more often and showed how powerful we were, we wouldnt have all the mayhem. With regard to their finances, their ideas of financing terror is no different than the terrorists i faced 35 years ago. They have some easier electronic ways to collect that money. They are still on using blood diamonds. They are using gold. They are smuggling currency and using corrupt bankers primarily in kuwait and qatar. They have a informal system that are like American Express stands throughout. Neil how do you choke that off . Its very difficult to choke that off on the informal systems if not impossible, but certainly we can monitor the Banking Systems which we do. You and i both know we have the capability and ability to choke off deposits that are coming from around the world. Understand that weve got kidnapping going on. Weve got arms smuggling. We got narcotics deeming going on. The estimate from the state department that 89 million have been paid just in kidnappings in this region of mali through alqaeda in the last ten years. Neil so do you call them radical islamists. There is a different term but they are reasserting them and linked to alqaeda or not, is it dangerous stuff . Its very dangerous stuff. Understand that almost 20 years ago, 1989, khadafy helped form what he thought was going to be the arab super state which consisted of libya, algeria, morocco and tunisia. Weve got terrorist states, weve got alqaeda under different names but with the same idea and understand they want this is not about the United States leaving territories in the middle east. This is about taking the United States to its knees and that is what they intend to do and how do they do it economically. When you have gas and oil in these various countries as we know bp is part of the one that is attacked in algeria. Its a very, very tough time and scary that time and dicey time. Make no mistake about it, terrorists have plenty of money that is coming from funding in saudi arabia. There are lots of different places for the money. Neil thank you very much. Fascinating book. Oneyear anniversary and no one is celebrating because so Many Americans out of work. The last time the president jobs council. 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Neil whether i saw that, well, you know you and i attend a lot of meetings, not together because i dont think i could deal with that maybe they do something on the phone or email each other or here a great idea for jobs. I dont know. Im trying to give the best light on this, i dont think that happened either. I actually read the list, scores of recommendations about how to make this economy grow faster and create more jobs. Everything from immigration policy, more skilled people in and create jobs in america. Lets bring the tax rates down and reform the tax system. Lets have more pro drilling and pro energy policy. Lets get some of the these regulations to make sense. We go on and on, but the thing that was amazing and i think you and i and most americans would agree with the recommendations, the president did virtually nothing with these. Neil a lot of administrations of commissions where they look into something and then the final report collects dusted. I always think with the president involved, if you are commission doing something really dicey, you stand behind them. They come out with a recommendation you put yours in with theirs, this unbiased and sort of boundless commission has come up with ideas, some of which i like, some i dont like but i stand by the key recommendations, yea or nay, he would be richly rewarded . There is a problem with that. If you look at the recommendation, things about lowering tax rates, that is opposite what the president wanted to do. He wanted to have the mirror of this group of very respected Business Leaders as his advisors and didnt take any of their advice. Neil he would have the cover taxes would still be higher on the richer and closing loopholes on corporations. So he could have separated some of it. Im not sure he wanted to. It wasnt just this panel. With the simpsonboles commission. He didnt do that one. There was paul volcker headed up on Corporate Tax reform. A lot of the ideas i agreed with, but he didnt move anything on those. I think its because he has ideological disposition that is very much at odds with these businessmen and women are saying. By the way, these are corporate leaders. These are the people that ought to know how to create jobs because they do it every day. By the way, there are many in the cabinet, as you know, this is one of my criticisms of the past cabinet and this cabinet, name distinguished Business Leaders in the cab knelt. I cant. Neil steve moore, thank you very much. I wish he would listen to his own advice. Neil there you go. You can forget about booking that spring break this weekend. Its about the party because guess what, im going to be in Party Central on monday. That is right, that is right. Im going to be bringing you nonstop coverage of the president ial inauguration that will out do any trip to cancun or fort lauderdale. If you got such tickets, cancel them now, catch me at 11 00 a. M. On fbn, ill be back at 4 00 p. M. On fox news. 8 00 p. M. On fox business, i know what you are thinking. Neil, that is a lot of hours. Are you going to be okay doing that . Well, we will also have spring break video. [ laughter ] neil all right. Do you think the government meantime, they say just you wait. Neil 78 mchbl not enough. That is how much taxpayers are selling out for the food paying program and now they are suggesting we may need to pay more. They are not promoting healthy choices but hike spending on food stamps. Michelle malkin, maybe how to get off of food stamps. I dont know what you are doing here. Explain this. [ laughter ] neil is this out of control . It has gotten out of control. We have the National Academy of sciences commissioned by the usda that runs the food stamp program. Their bottom line conclusion somehow we should be increasing spending because food stamp recipients arent able to buy enough healthy food. Explanation here is that in urban centers, its much harder to get fresh food or organ i can food. If we simply increase the stipend that somehow the recipients will make better choices. Unfortunately, again, its too much common sense for these federal bureaucrats that run the programs. The problem if you give these food stamp benefits out, easy t cards and remove the stigma and remove Strings Attached to them, guess what, they are going to buy crappy food. There is an unwillingness, look, part of this contract between a welfare recipient and taxpayers that have to subsidize it you have to accept limits. Apparently the social welfare people think this too much of stigma, its too much nanny state government. You need to let them by their soda and crappy food and give them more money. Neil we put a gloss on it where we actually make it a Norman Rockwell type of benefit. We glorify food stamps. We glorify some of these things. I am saying that we have made eight standard to the point, we have gotten various programs that are now so ingrained in society that once you get them, its almost impossible to get off them . Yeah, thats right. The temporary entitlements get renewed and increased and expanded. Then it becomes so much harder to rein them in when the excesses are obvious. We have had successes. In the Federal SchoolLunch Program and with wick and womens and childrens program. There are limits. They try to put nutrition back. You cant use it on soda and you cant use it on potato chips, but for some reason, the social welfare advocates have made snacks and ebt program untouchable. There are states that have tried to rein it in. New york and maine have applied for waivers from the usda and federal government refuses to rein it in. Neil these are the same liberals who are saying, the food police, what should we do, but dont tread on the poorest amongst us let them have what they want. That is literally a case you cant have your cake but they can eat it. It certainly is. There is unfortunately one of these strange bedfellow alliances. In economics they call it baptist and bootleger system, you have dispirit interests that have united to keep the status quo. In this case the antipoverty people and the sugar and soda interests that are making 80 billion on expenditures on the food stamp program. Neil encouraging anything by government edict makes more dependency on government. Michelle, good seeing you again. On trial for shooting them. Why is one aurora, colorado family suing somebody else . Power down your little word game. I think your friends will understand. Oh no, its actually my geico app. See . I just uh paid my bill. Did you really . From the plane . Yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24 7. Sounds a little too good to be true sir. Ill believe that when pigs fly. Ok, did she seriously just say that . Geico. 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They spent a reported one Million Dollars renovating the theater giving a difficulty look and feel inside and out a different look my and out. We talked to one person. He decided to going to the reopening ceremony. His wish that they would have talked to people like him before the redesign. And issue taking seriously and people that were hurt from the theater. You figure if you have been inside the situation you would have an opinion or say so on what the outcome of it would be. Reporter he says he does not blame anyone who decided to attend the reopening but he told us it felt rushed with sunday being just six months since that terrible night. Cinemark is being sued by a number of family members for negligence. Did they wanted the whole theater complex destroyed . There were varying opinions. Some family members thought it should be closed down or destroyed or some thought it should be a memorandum. Some thought that the best way to get in our lives that the attacker, james holmes doesnt win. Neil the widow of a victim is suing the psychiatrist. That the doctor failed to ask police to Dwayne James Holmes after he shared his fantasies about killing people. Could psychologists be held accountable . Fox news amp lit lift lis wiehl. I think they have pretty good case. Its simple in the law. You have to show that the psychiatrist knew that holmes was crazy and dangerous. We know that for sure because holmes told her i infant size about killing people. She had a duty. She has a duty. She a psychiatrist and heading in that duty and did not use and neglected that duty. You can lock him up for 72 hours to monitor him, she said no and left it at that. I would say she breached her duty at that point when she didnt agree to the 27 hours. Neil what would have happened in the 72 hours . They could have evaluated him and held him and released him the same thing could have happened. Neil because he had no prior incidents. No prior incidents but there a lack of a legal connection or liability here on any psychiatrist that treated him particularly in this case. You have to realize what he voiced in his session which is protected by attorneyclient privileges, he fantasized about killing a lot of people. That statement in itself and that is all we know and all the victims families know about, its not enough to trigger the duty to report. The sigh cry terrorist has to let them people are in harm. Its is a scary statement. There are plenty of people undergoing sigh crick care who voice hallucinations and delusional thinking it doesnt trigger the duty to report. My guess is much more than statement. He sent in a notebook. Unfortunately she never got the note bundling. You have to think as a matter of common sense that many of the things that he postits in the notebook he verbalized to her. Exactly, the messages and why else would she take the initial step she knew that something was horribly wrong. Why would she take the initial step of going to the Campus Police and then back down. We dont know. So after the fact she should have seen it, but to the client, you know, doctor privilege but its slippery . It is a slippery. In order to break that bond a court is going to have to say there is a eminent threat of death. Neil how anybody talks about doing harm to people or in this case, murdering a bunch of people . It would bar an exception and trigger a duty to report. This lawsuit is about the doctors failure to act. There would some liability, but here, you have would examine every case. Anyone who commits a homicidal act that is undergoing treatment there is high likelihood they have discussed delusional thoughts with their treater. Im telling you, im sure he said to things to her before even before the notebook. But i want to go out and kill a. But of people. Neil you have represented clients that you found reprehensible. Many, many. Neil to any point, i dont want to represent you . Yes. I represented people who have done some very heinous things. Neil its moral call for me to accept them and represent them. Once im involved in the case i have confidentiality. This is different between lawyers and psychiatrists. They are under a duty once they have reasonable suspicion that they think there is going to be harm in the future, not in the past, that they have done something in the past, but possibly in the future they have a legal obligation to turn that material over. But it cant be possibly. Neil you never know. Well see. In the meantime, robert, remember this guy. He came back and charlie is still winning but those rants stand a chance . You work on the disease. You win the Tour De France seven times and you have a happy marriage and children. Its a story and it wasnt true. With scottrades online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login. To easily move my money when i need to. Plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. Because i dont trade like everim with scottrade. Me. announcer scottrade. Awarded fivestars from smartmoney magazine. Neil well, he doped up but did its unsorry help . I view this situation one big lie, that i repeated a lot of times. As you said, it wasnt just said no and moved off of it. You were defiant . Yes. You called other people liars . I made my decisions and they were my mistake and i acknowledge that and say im sorry for that. Neil so that is very latest. Does it have any come back chance for lance . Look at bill back then. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Neil look at the Standing Ovations he gets right now. Katrina says lance wont be so lucky, why not . Lance really showed no real emotion in that interview. He never actually apologized. He is celebrity 101 says first admit you did something wrong and then you apologize and then you show remorse. He has done nothing but admit what he has done. This is not a personal situation where he had an extramarital affair or was addicted to drugs. This is all about ego and power and greed. He duped his own foundation. Neil there are a lot of people that were duped. Clinton did the whole country, right . What made bill clinton survive that and Robert Downey survive his incidents. Those are likable, i dont want to call them rogues, but likable but i dont think the same could apply to armstrong . Armstrong is completely robotic. There is no charisma there. There is no like you said character. Think of hugh granted or even charlie sheen. There is loveable about the train wreck you like to watch. You know, he is an interesting guy. Neil what makes you think that lance wont enjoy the same come back . People really i think view lance as someone who has really, this is about power and ego and greed. Neil what about the fact he had cancer, near death, wont that offset the bad stuff . Absolutely not. He has been doing this for decades. He even said on the interview, this was a lie of mythic proportions. That he continued to perpetuate. There is no sense he never said he thought he was doing nothing wrong. This is what his p. R. Machine was telling him. Neil he was doing this to move on his life and capitalize and make some money . I dont think it was so much about making money. It was keeping that public persona but the way lance did this in the first place, he was setting out to win. Neil regardless of your personal preference, you dont think he will be able to break this . Lance will always be a celebrity and treated with deference but he will never regain the expect or admiration of the american people. Americans tend to forgive their heroes but Lance Armstrong has gone too far. Neil thank you very much. Have i ever, hit you on the side of the head and they are right there and live and well. Think, i think, it was my mom. B. But, dad, youve got. [ voice of dennis ] allstate. With accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates wont go up just because of an accident. Smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. Are you in good hands . Neil he wants for nothing but complains about everything. About children who never call him. Even though they do a lot. Neighbors he insists are out to get him, even though they are not. Angry and alone. He just sits and stews. And this night i stopped by, man oh, man is he loaded for bear. He is seething over a delivery guy who apparently left his mailbox open and refused to close it. Can you believe that he tells me. Second time this month. Well, im sure it was an accident, i tried to tell him. He is hearing none of it. He proceeds to rattle off the theory of similar slights, all silly and stupid and sad. What happened no this guy . He is in a well when my mom and dad were alive. Contemporary affair built bitterly marching on in life. Years after they both left this life. My mom used to dismiss his ways because she insisted he was a good soul. But my mom would have said that about usama bin laden bought she had a good heart. But i think about my mom and hearing this guy who criticizes kids who would do anything for him. Then i thought about something my mom used to say. You can tell a lot about a person that what gets them upset. Little thing, little person. Petty things, petty person. No matter the annoying things to my mom at least, always the same person, always a good person. Yes, even this person. A person deserving of her kindness. No matter what i thought, she would always say neil, dont be thoughtless. I remem