0 ke what? visionworks. see the difference. lamarca had the hiccups. i'm watters and this is my world. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. east paalestino, ohio s not a huge place. it's about 5,000 people and east palestine was the place that produced dishes and cups and pitchers for america's hotels and enormous ceramics works there employed much of the town and it's all gone and the town is much poorer for it and the median income is lass than $45,000. east palestine is overwhelmingly white and politically conservative. more than 70% of the voters in the surrounding counties supported donald trump in the last election. that shouldn't be relevant but you're about to hear, it very much is. 11 days ago, 150 car train derailed in east palestine and it spewed poisonous chemicals onto the ground and in the surface waters. after the crash, the ohio state epa found evidence of yabbial acura late in the water and streams and creeks that feed it. this was more of a concern for east palestine given the ohio river supplies drinking water to about a tenth of the u.s. population. this train derailment was a environmental disaster. not an environmental disaster like climate change is, but an actual environmental disaster, one that's hurting actual people. then it got worse. several days after the derailment, officials decided it was a good idea to set fire to the spilled chemicals. the result of that decision was a giant toxic mushroom cloud overthe entire region, you're see ago picture on your screen right now. given the evident crisis in east palestine, how did the federal government, did the biden administration respond? well, under pete buttigieg, the department of transportation, which responds to train derailments took decisive action. pete buttigieg announced something called tran sis equity day that's yet another day that we celebrate race-based federal funding that despite the train derailment does not apply to east pal spine because the people that will -- palestine because the people that live there are the wrong color. an $80 million project for east philadelphia and $20 million in east detroit and both of which vote democrat and mayor pete talked about perhaps the most pressing problem in the country was that we have too many white construction workers. mayor pete said not a single word about east palestine, ohio. that's not because everything was under control there. as the dot was busy tweeting about black history month and transit equity, the governor of ohio announce that had controlled burn of chemicals from the derailment could potentially kill thousands. that shouldn't surprise you because vinyl chloride when burned turns into faschin and he recollects the single most deadly a gas in world war i and it was on that train in east palestine. the governor of ohio. >> those in the read area are facing grave danger of death if they are still in that area. those living in the area face a severe risk of skin damage. >> tucker: that is the tone and chuckle at the end is oregoner mike dewine of -- governor mike dewine of ohio and great defender of ukraine and he's announce that had, well, thousands of people in his area. if you live in a two mile radius, shelter in place and keep your windows closed and residents closer to the mushroom cloud put up near a hotel. within days they were all let back in their home without the department of transportation and washington saying a word. one hazardous material specialist put t the whole town may be unsafe as a result of this. watch. >> railroad is responsible for this and these people going back to their homes and they should have been tested and holmes should have been cleaned from the onset these people were being marginalized in an effort to mitigate this and first they're being told go get a hotel and keep your receipts and we'll reimburse you. east palestine is a very poor community. some of these people don't have money to get hotels and do all this stuff. this really looks like a nuclear winter and i said pretty much, yeah. we nuked this town with chemicals and this is what they're getting. >> tucker: imagine if this had happened in well, the favored cities of philadelphia and detroit. lots of poor people in the cities and everyone feels for them and everyone wants them to be safe. imagine at the same time this is happening in washington dc and st. georgetown. well, the national guard would be called in and no mushroom cloud of toxic chemicals on the horizon and we can promise you that. in both case this affected the rich or favored poor, it would be the lead of every news channel in the world. but it happened to the poor town of east palestine, ohio. who's people are forgotten and the view of the people that lead the country forgettable. no big deal. >> tucker: it could be in nooks, crannies and crevasses of course. that's how poison gas works. ask anyone for done. that would explain the effect that the chemical weapons expert just outlined why fish and animals are dying in the area without explanation. explanation is very obvious. one resident in east palestine said foxes are sick now. watch this. >> taylor is a dnr registered fox keepe keeper and a couple os broke their legs trying to run after the initial derailment and one of his foxes even died. >> out of nowhere he started coughing really hard and just shut down and he had liquid diarrhea and just went very fast. >> taylor tells me all of his foxes have been sick and acting different since the weekend. some have abnormally puffy faces including the one he's holding. he says they're not eating properly and many dealing with stomach issues and acting lethargic. >> this isn't how a fox should act. he's very weak, limp. his eyes are very like water reigns leading and weepy. >> some of the foxes are pacing rapidly in their pen and another sign they're not well. >> tucker: yeah. pay attention to the animals always. there's a reason the phrase canary in the coal mine is a cliche. after all this becomes public and the water in the air in and around east palestine in the region could be contaminated, finally, finally pete buttigieg the department of transportation decided to weigh in "our federal partners at epa are on site and monitoring indoor and outdoor air quality". air quality, what about water? oh, water. what does that have to do with the climate change? it's the one thing you can't do without. after about two and a half days, you die. they're not checking the water. only checking the air a week after people were let back into their homes. according to major pete, the epa hasn't screened 200 homes to the burn or it's accidental and it was authorities burning it. they just don't care actually. could that be clearer? well, residents of east palestine were inhaling toxic fumes and mayor pete was joking about the chinese spy balloon. watch this. >> if you look at what the america transportation system haves faced in the last two or three years, partly because of the pandemic, we've faced issues from container shipping to airline cancellations, now we got balloons. >> that's right. >> tucker: there's never been a cabinet secretary this flamboyantly uncaring and evil if we're joking about it. that was major pete yesterday two weeks after the disaster in ohio. was this disaster predictable? we're not sure. netflix made a movie about it last year. a train derails in ohio and spills toxic chemicals everywhere and some of the locals in east palestine were extras in that film but no one saw it coming. it never could have happened. right. it is coming out now and we're not sure where the train derailed but according to a report, the train involved in the derailment, norfolk southern lobbied federal regulators for about a decade to not improve their emergency brakes. the biden administration like the previous two administrations didn't push the issue and apparently the emergency brakes on the particular train failed during this incident. now again, there's a lot of propaganda here. there's unions involved and there's a lot of people who benefit from assigning blame to this disaster. we're not going to endorse any theory about why it happened. we're only going to note that mayor pete, who was in charge of finding out why it happened doesn't seem interested at all. unlike everybody else in new york, washington and la, he's kind of pretending it didn't happen and telling his little jokes. we're interested in why it happened and its effects and we're grateful to be joined right now binet than hizodic and a resident of east palestine and lives two miles from where it happened and joining us with his wife kelly. thank you g.o.a.t. for joining -- both for joining us. are you concerned about being there right now? >> yes, we are. >> very. >> tucker: very. i bet you are. are you seeing effects, seems from our perspective hundreds of miles away, there's dangerous chemicals in your town, are you seeing the effects of that? >> we're seeing them locally and inside of our bodies, what we're experiencing. local fish in our creeks have died, oily sheens and coloration in our water, constant smell of burning plastics and chemicals in the air. issues with our dog vomiting, acting lethargic. it's scary stuff here, tucker. >> tucker: it's horrifying and a nightmare. again, if that happened in washington dc, no one would be living there right now. is there any federal presence, are you getting any sense that anybody that whom you send your tax dollars to every year cares about what happens to you? >> at this moment unfortunately not. >> tucker: no. there's no epa officials and hazmat suits, no one from the department of transportations walking around trying to find out how this happened and prevent it from happening again. >> nobody is knocking on our door. >> tucker: how many of your neighbors are still there? >> our neighbor across the street and next door neighbor came back on this past saturday as well. we returned back home and that was days after when they said it was safe to return and we still didn't feel comfortable and soon as we got into the ohio line, we immediately smelled the chemicals yet again and since then i have the chemical will your honors and reaction, rash, on my face and my throat is getting irritated again and feeling very uneasy. very uneasy. >> tucker: man, i'm so sorry and just assuming looking at the numbers, i've never been to east palestine, but looks like a lot of people there don't have anywhere else to go. >> that's the thing, we moved her last may and got a nice four acre property and a place to call our home. outskirts of the town where it happened but in town is a small knit area and a lot are lower class and lower income and fortunately we had a place to go on sunday whenever we got the two mile evacuation order and a lot of those families unfortunately didn't and this should have happened on friday, wherever -- >> when the initial crash happened. >> when it initially happened and the chemicals were for whatever reason not released or known and in my opinion, inny my industry, there's a paper trail with anything. especially when it comes to rail cars. there's sdss, manifests and even if they didn't know benefit of the doubt what happened then, it's a simple call to the producer and they can have it to you in minutes. so there's a lot of fishy stuff going on. >> tucker: they know what's in their rail cars, of course they do. nathan and kelly, thank you for joining us and god speed in east palestine. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: residents in town were told they could return to >> so residents in the town,mes we're told they can returnshorye to their homes shortly after authorities burned the toxic chemicals and created the poisonous mushroom cloud you have seen. >> now e govern, the governor of ohio,t mike dewine, says the tap watero drobably d isn't safe to drink. >> but at the same time, you can't drink the tap watertellin because it is filled with poisonous chemicals. dewine is telling the people , ohio, it's okay to go back home.e >> watch this.king t i think thathe i wouldd wate be drinking the bottled water and i would be continuings th to find out what the tests were showing as far as the er, i would be alert and concern, but i think i would probably o be back in my house. >> you got to think it's possible for the ohio legislature to pass a law to mo tonight forcing governor dewine to move to ease palestinvee indefinitely and just see how he does with bottled water . . >> stay alert. doctor jeanette nesh, what is the director of city m.d. she joins us tonight to assess. doctor , thank you for coming. how concerned would you be ? >> would you be eager to move to east palestine tonight? absolutely not, tucker.e ru yoshu know, there is a variety f s on that train from iso butling ethylene heltzel acetyl and vinyl chloride. and of course, the greatest concern is vinyl chloride, because this is one of the most toxic, poisonous chemicalsnet on the planet such that itth is listed as a human carcinogen . pot what does that mean?en t has the potential to cause cancer, liver cancer,d breast cancer, leukemias, blood cancer. and so on top of that,t, when yu burn it, which is what they're doing now, a controlled burn, then you have byproducts. those byproducts can be lethal as well. as you mentioned earlier, phosgene, this is a lethal chemical that has been used as a weapon in world war one .ae and it's even listed on the cd c website. they have an. preparedness protocol in case you come into contacte yo with phosgen e, all thesehe chemicals in the epa that that we know of. e far , only testing for vinyl chloride. but what about the ethyl texel ? what aboutse the butyl acetate and all these other chemicals? emicalthat are causing the sympe like your previous guest has been experiencing? eviousheadache, sore throat irritation of the eyes, burning of the skrienced n, difficultyde breathing, the decease of fish,n the death, the fish, the wildlife, the chickens, the pets, the animals, so it's of great concern. we need to see fema out thered o on the ground. and we probably had a premature clearance by the epa to return the citizens back into that community. >> yeah, it's not about climate, so they don't care. great to see. thank you. >>ank you, tucker. >> t nick salter is a videoe gru journalist who is on the ground there in east palestine, ohio.nd he's spoken to business ownerse and residents of the town. >> he joins us now.r comi mack , thank you so muchng for coming on .ke l bamakes me feel that we're not there, that that you are. what's your assessment of the town right now? so what's going on on the ground is is a little bit different from what you might m see in the media. edthe sentiment from the residents seems to be that they are super annoyed at how the federal government, how the biden administration in howlparticular is handling this situation. you have the epa in particular.that are they won't talk to any of the residents. you have people that are right up there.th i spoke with a a small business owner. was t that was their business washe right in front of where the the explosion was. epa they can't get anything out of the epa. e the federal government came in u for a few days, took over their entire business, would not let them in, okay, but also wouldn't talk to themything and wouldn't give them a plan, wouldn't tell them anything.ev and that's exactly how it'eryboi going for everybody that's in this town . so they don't knowandone if thew will bto be abandoned by the federal government and they don't know whae wiped f t theirn is going to be wiped off the map. and it's really sad when you're talking to these people because they are terrified that this town , that they grew up in, that they've lived in for their entire lives is going to be completely demolishethd b. by people having to leave, people scared to even come back to th e town .s there's a myriad of people that do not believe the epa'sown is assessment that the town is okay to go back into. d so they just haven't bothered. and that is a really scaryvernme thing to think that the federalt government cannot be trusteds sa enough to be able to telln ar us whether or noeat it's safe to go in an area like this wherecon they forced the current vaccines itrhinkn the country. so i think they can't be trusted. but i'm really interested as ala factual matter, is the epawher tracking where this cloud ofm chemicals went?d be i mean, it was a localcame a prm . >> it became a regional problem. do we have anye informationefft on the effects of those clouds of chemicals yet? >> so, tucker, the epa is not releasing a lot of the datand te that that they've supposedly been collecting. they were supposedsued t releasa last week on water samples. right. how was the water supply contaminated? o was groundwater contaminated? they have not done any of that.f okay a that's another thing that residents are complaining about a lot because they don'tlo kno t know if they can trust wir their own tap water. they don't wanps and at turn onu taps. a lot of these people do haveth wells, but they have no clue ifd they're groundwater has been contaminated. >> it's it's. tucker: it' beyon. this is america.>> this is a first world country. i mean, yeah. >> or was next. i sure appreciate that reporte n from the scene in east palestine. thank you.stine, ohio. thank you. for over two so for over two years now, weabn have been treated to endless lectures about democracy. >> i'm defending democracym . s the firs well, if you want to destroyu do democracy, what's the first thing you would do? 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