Revolutionary war era statute that is so obscure, not a Single Person has ever been convicted under it under the entire span of American History. So its a safe bet that no one reading the paper that morning had ever heard of the logan act much less understood what it actually says, but it didnt matter. The Washington Post story spurred an instant scandal. Within hours, reporters were yelling about flynn and kislyak in the White House Briefing room and that was the beginning of it all. Three full years of hysterics over russia followed from there. Lost in the noise and the gesticulating for several vital questions. How exactly did the Washington Post know who mike flynn was talking to on the phone . Where did the details of his conversation come from . And the logan act of 1799 . Who came up with that . These are not small questions. Government agencies clearly had been spying on the Incoming National security advisor. That is unethical and its scary, its a terrible precedent. Leaking details of those calls for political effect is a straightforward felony. During the Obama Administration, several Government Employees went to prison for leaking. Fo we interviewed one of them on the show repeatedly. In the case of mike flynn, no one has ever been punished, and we still dont know who did it, but tonight we are getting warmer. Earlier today, senators ron johnson and Chuck Grassley a released a list they received from ric grenell, the acting director of national intelligence. On his list is the name of every Obama Administration official who requested that mike flynns name be unmasked. There are an awful lot of names here, 39 names. Former Vice President joe biden is on the list. His name is last on the roster. This is clearly a big story, but what exactly does it add up to its complex, so here are some context it. Every day, american intelligence agencies, primarily nsa, but also others, collect massive amounts of data from around the world, emails and phone calls from foreign nationals they are interested in monitoring. This goes on and always has. But often names of american citizens appear in these transcripts. By federal law, these names must be redacted from intel reports. They are american, they havent done anything wrong. Unless they receive special ngwarrants from a fisa court, te intel agencies are not allowed to spy on american citizens. It is illegal for the nsa or cia to spy on you if they dont have a fisa warrant. So if the Administration Officials really want to knowra the names of americans caught up in these reports, they have to fill out a form and officially request whats calledha and unmasking. As former National Security advisor susan rice once explained, unmasking someones name is something you only do one its critical to our National Security. I we cant be passive consumers of this information and not do our job to protect american people. Imagine if we saw something ofou great significance that involved russia or china or anybody else interfering in our political process and we needed to understand the significance of that. For us not to try to understand it would be dereliction of duty. Tucker so as rice just told you, its their duty to unmask the names of american citizens caught up in the surveillance when it protects the american people. News reports today, needless to say, are suggesting the unmasking names of american citizens and intel reports is no big deal, it happens all the time. And in fact now it does happen quite frequently. It certainly did under obama. But it didnt always come and by deal,y, if it was no big they, names wouldnt be redacted in the first place by the law. We spoke today to a former intel officer who said that in his years working at cia headquarters, he never one time requested and unmasking. So the question is, why did 39 separate obama officials asked to unmask mike flynns name . We cant know for certain until we see the forms they filled out. Every unmasking request requires a reason for the unmasking. You cant just get it, you have to explain why you want it. When we see the forms they filled out, we will know the official pretext they gave, but for now we know this every unmasking request is prompted by a separate intel report. That means there were an awful lot ofof intelligence reports being generated with mike flynns name in them in the closing weeks of the Obama Administration. Why . Its obvious what was going on. The Obama Administration wanted to monitor mike flynns private communications. Legallye they could not do tha, they didnt have a fisa warrant, so instead they used the nsa to do it for them. The nsa forwarded all surveillance reports that included mike flynns name the white house where mike flynns name was promptly unmasked. This was a domestic spying operation. Thats what it was. Is it was hidden under the pretext of National Security. Once you see the details, thats very clear. Plenty of the 39 people who saw flynns name, who unmasked it, had no reason to know his name. They were not National Security officials. They were political hacks, and thats not an exaggeration. On december 6th for example, the American Ambassador to italy, a guy called John Phillips asked to unmask mike flynns name. Phillips is not an intelligence officer. He is an Obama Campaign donor who is married to a former obama aid. Why was phillips party to spying on an american citizen . What could possibly be the justification for that . We dont know. We can only guess. The ambassadors to russia and turkey, by the way, also saw mike flynns name. Some in the press tonight are defending this, but that shouldnt be defended. It is totally wrong. Samantha power was the one ambassador but in real life she was a political activist. She requested to see flynns ctname. So to dennis mcdonough, and a seasoned political operative. Mcdonough confirmed mike flynns identity on the very same to his boss, barack obama, discussed mike flynn in the oval office with fbi director jim comey and Deputy Attorney general sally h. Maybe thats why Barack Obamas name is not on the unmasking list. He had his assistant do it for him. Imagine the donald trump did this to his political enemy. That would be a legitimate reason to impeach him, we were not offended on the show, it would be indefensible and so is this. And then theres joe biden. He asked to uncover mike flynns name a january 12th, a week, eight days, before donald trump took office. What official justification could biden possibly have had for doing that . He mustve given some reason he had to. Again, the official form requires it. Lets see that form. Until we do, we can only speculate about bidens motives. Its hard to see a legitimate reason for doing this, especially so close to the end of the administration. Eight days. Biden, for his part, is now claiming he knew nothing at allm about the mike flynn investigation. Watch this interview from abc yesterday. Keep in mind it took place before we received todays unmasking list. Watch. I know nothing about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn, number one. Number two, this is all about diversion. You say you didnt know any thing about it but you reportedi to being at january 15th 2017 meeting were you when the president were briefed on the fbis plan to question Michael Flynn over those conversations he had with the Russian Ambassador kislyak. I thought you asked me whether or not i had anything to do with him being prosecuted. Im sorry. I was aware that there was they had asked for an investigation. Thats all that i know about it, i dont think there was anything else. Tucker thats all i know. T but you asked to unmask his name from classified surveillance document. If it was anyone besidesil joe biden, you have to conclude thats an obvious lie. On the face of it, we can prove it is. But because it is joe biden, it is possible he doesnt remember that or what he had for breakfast, but the rest of us should remember it. As the facts, and it was clear that Michael Flynn did not commit a crime. Whatever you think of him, in this country you are punished for crimes. He clearly didnt commit one. Obama Administration Officials, by contrast, did commit crimes. Felonies. They spied on mike flynn. They passed his name or on the white house like a joint at a party. They leaked his private conversations to jeff bezos asked if he has newspaper in order to destroy his life, and theyes succeeded. These amoral creeps destroyed Michael Flynns life and reputation and family. Y. They should be punished for that and by the way, they may be punished. Hoaccording to a knowledgeable source, a portion of the relevant information is missingg from this latest document release. That could be a sign that some evidence is now in the hands of a grand jury impaneled to consider charges against whoever did this. We dont know thats true, we certainly hope it is. Buck sexton hosts the buck sexton show, we are happy to have him on tonight, former cia officer. Buck, thanks so much for coming on. Give some context of the story since youve been in the middle of things like this. As you mentioned, there is a high level of sensitivity arouni what they call incidental collection of u. S. Persons. So that means that youre not supposed to be getting that information on the u. S. Individual, but you have stuff onet them. And then theres this additional layer of, well, you can have an unmasking request for people about a certain level. This all relies on the degree of good faith operation and this reminds me a bit of the debate that we had over fisa, because fisa is really an end run on the fourthe amendment. Fisa says we will be able to surveil people, communications through this secret court, but its really only going to be used against terrorist and spies. Unmasking is supposed to be a for need to know purposes, for people really in the trenches on intelligence who have a valid reason for that information. Not just curiosity. And the idea behind it is, well, we shouldnt be splashing his names around, but some people can be trusted to know who this is. Clearly a lot of these people really wanted to know why general flynn general flynn was in these conversations. Theres also something people should remember, reverse targeting, we ostensibly are looking to surveilled a foreign target, but you know theyre probably talking to an american thatth you want to figure out. Theres also the people that are saying now that unmasking shows they didnt know who this is. Who did they think is having his conversations with the ambassadors of these Different Countries or with kislyak or with other foreigners at this period of time . Its not that hard to fill in the blanks are, but why do they want to know badly why they have to confirm . Thats where it starts to get even more suspicious. Tucker especially in literally the waning days, the last week of the administration. By the way, in the week before christmas and new years, when theres not a soul in washington, everyone is in florida with a cocktail and theyre up late at the white house unmasking mike flynn. Let me ask you, these people get dozens, some of them, of intel reports across the desk everyday but they asked to redact they asked to unmask mike flynns name again and again, repeatedly in some cases. They knew his name was in there. Theres no question when you look at you lineup the timeline, the individuals that are making these requests, some of the meetings that were going on, including in the oval in january, the kislyak phone call on december 28th, 2016, the unmasking request before, the unmasking request after. You brought up how many intelligence reports . This is its a firehose of information thats coming from the Intelligence Community all day long. These guys are getting constant briefings. There was a clear focus on this from the very top of the Law Enforcement and intelligence communities. Why . T he didnt do anything wrong. Why are they all suddenly wanting to see his conversation. They dont have any good answers for this. Tucker rs they were starting a much larger plan to derail their sucessor with russia. Michael neufeld is a name on this list, i wasnt familiar, who was Michael Neufeld and why is that significant . I think he still in the trump administration, from what i understand, which also raises how many of the people look there are some names that are on that list that i would note its not surprising that they be engaged in unmasking. Its the political people that youre surprised by, but youd also want to know, are any of them still in the administration . Are any of them perhaps still that we should look at and wonder what their role was in this . Which seems to be a conspiracy. We are not conspiracy theorists, we have unveiled a conspiracy, thats of the document god bless richard grenell, thats what it shows. Tucker Samantha Power is a completely lightweight political figure and if you think shes a serious person, talk to her for 10 minutes. The fact that she would have access to this is by the way, i think hes in treasury now, maybe its a different Michael Neufeld. I dont know, but it seems like maybe his, but we will find out. Great to see you tonight, thank you. Thanks. Tucker federal judge Emmet Sullivan has appointed a retired judge to argue against the justice departments motion to dismiss charges against mike flynn. And instead makes a case for sending them to prison, forrik real. Jeanine pirro, also author of the book radicals, resistance and revenge, we are happy to have her on tonight. Judge, why would this judge and that was confusingly worded on my part, but this judge has asked another judge to make the case to send mike flynn to prison, what would be the purpose of that given what wege know . You know, tucker, from the time that i spent on the bench, and it was not a federal bench, but it was a trial bench as this one is, it is absolutely foreign to any judge to even consider bringing in another judge toth copilot a case. Understand this this is a case that involves the government and a defendant. The united states, Michael Flynn. S the judge has an obligation to rule on the case before him. It is not complicated. It is a motion to dismiss with one of the most factual affidavitladen support in terms of the evidence behind it to support the applications to dismiss. Its a miniserial move that this judge apparently doesnt want to make. So we have to bring in another judge, who by the way is a clintonappointed retired federal judge. This is not something that needs to be done, because the motion makes it clear because there were missing fbi notes found of the law firm where eric holder was a partner, and because the defendant, Michael Flynn, there was no predicate for him tose be investigated in the first place. He was told he didnt need an attorney and then was denied effective assistance of counsel. All these wrongdoings done by the federal government and the fbi and then now, what you have is the department of justice saying we want to dismiss this, we want to right a wrong. Now they want to bring in the clowns. This morning it was all the retired watergate attorneys who want to come in and now we want to tell the judge chargeable. He has been a judge for 30 years. Tucker may i ask you a question . Hold on. If you take three steps back, heres a guy whos going to prison for lying in a case in which we have handwritten notes from an fbi official saying should we get him to lie so we can send them to jail or get him fired . If he was an armed robber i would defend him. Rwo are there actually people in washington with a straight face saying hehe should go to jail . D yes, because it has become the politicization of the criminal justice system. We saw it in the kavanaugh the denial of the presumption of innocence. We are seeing further pillars udbeing destroyed in this particular case. Tucker thats right. This defendant was someone that was targeted by the judge. This judge needs to recuse himself, he should be embarrassed to put a robe on. He tells the defendant who is facing five years the prosecutor consider trying you just charging for treason, which is death penalty. He says youre an an embarrassment to the country. This judge doesnt belong in that case. And now what hes doing is hes poisoning the 2020 election by trying to make it look like bill barr, was one of the most honorable, effective attorney generals weve ever had, not an wing man like eric holder, hes trying to destroy the whole thing so that barr looks like the villain here. By the way, what happened to joe biden this morning was aa body blow with the revealing of his being one of the individuals. Hes in deep trouble right now. Ng tucker but he can plausibly say i dont member. He has that going for him. Judge jeanine, great to see you, thank you. A small state not getting a lot of attention, but the governoror now janet mills s out of control. She is marshaling the whole power of the state to destroy a single Restaurant Owner. Why . Because he didnt treated with appropriate respect. Shes going to crush them. We will bring you an update in just a minute. But first, the Health Director from pennsylvania told the public that Nursing Homes were entirely safe. She knew they werent, so she pulled her mother out of a nursing home. Others stayed and s died. Almost unbelievable story, weve got details after the break. Tucker close to 4,000 people have died in pennsylvania because of the coronavirus. Almost 70 of those deaths, more than 2600, took place in nursinn homes or similar lawn care facilities. Those deaths occur for the t very same reason they did in new york, because the state, officialscc there, ordered nursg homes to accept patients who had tested positive for coronavirus. The person who gave that order was the States Health secretary,t dr. Rachel levine. Levine knows nothing about this virus. She has no idea what shes doing, like so many of our leaders. Here she is promising that admitting t coronavirus cases io ntNursing Homes, no problem at all, totally safe. By testing every resident and every staff member and every nursing home, we will be able to pinpoint exactly who has covid19, who has been exposed, but no symptoms, and positive cases to prevent further spread. D tucker she sounds so sure, they always do. We know what were doing, they have no clue. That was untrue, completely untrue and it looks like she knew that it was untrue. Which would make her really worse than most. Outbreaks devastated pennsylvanias Nursing Homes. Thousands of pennsylvanians lost their loved ones, their parents, their grandparents. Levines own 95yearold mother transfered out of the facility she was in to keep her safe. What do you think that . The boat wont sink as she escapes in a lifeboat. Dont expect any sympathy from levines boss, tom wolfe, he has had a very busy weekend not protecting the state, but denouncing opponents of his decisions as the moral equivalent of wartime deserters. Watch this. Over this past weekend, some have decided to surrender to this enemy. These are politicians who were elected to serve their fellow citizens. Others are Business Owners who have chosen to serve their customers by putting them in harms way. These folks are choosing to desert in the face of the enemy. This is called in every single pennsylvania to fight and we have heroically. To those politicians who decide to cave into this coronavirus, they need to understand the consequences of their cowardly act. Rd tucker what is he, Winston Churchill now . Hess some dopey governor who s no clue what hes doing. But on that score hes not joking. Wolfe made it plain that if any Business Owner in a state things every opening and trying to salvage their livelihoods, he will crush them. M. To the politicians urging businesses to risk their lives and risk the lives of their customers or their employees by opening prematurely, they need to understand that they are engaging in behavior that is both selfish and unsafe. You Business Owners, these politicians put you at risk of losing your Health Department certificate. They put you Business Owners at risk of losing your Liquor License by opening before the evidence suggests you should, youre taking undue risks with the safety of your customers. Thats not only morally wrong, its also really bad business. Tucker for a slope h shouldered mediocrity like wolfe to have this much power, imagine what a rush that must be. He never wants it to end. The state meanwhile is desperate for relief. A congressional candidate in pennsylvania joins us tonight. Jim, thanks so much for coming on tonight. So the governor has, judging by those clips and what weve read about him, believes he has total power of the commonwealth of pennsylvania, he could do iewhatever he wants, his word is law. How did he get so powerful . Thanks for having me. Its really a fiasco. Its an embarrassment. For Governor Wolf to go out and attack Business Owners, if he wants to investigate anyone, he should be investigating rachel esvine and his own administration, which a sentence 2700 people to death in our Nursing Homes. It really is an embarrassment. The moral culpability is in his hands. Hes the one whose lead us down this path. Tucker that is such a great point. So we find out that the state Health Director, his Health Director, forced coronaviruspositive patients into Nursing Homes but pulled her own mother out of a nursing home. Ras he addressed this or has he spent all his time yelling at people trying to make a living . He spent his time hectoring and lecturing us, the people of pennsylvania. My district is very bluecollar my grandfather was a coal miner, we want to work, we dont want government funds. Y we want to work, we want to open our state back up. We think thats very reasonable, we can do it in a safe way. For god sakes, we landed on the moon,ab we can open businesses. R what we do want to do is protect our nursing home residents. Our Elderly Population is at risk. There should be National Guard their testing people, there should be Public Health officials there. Instead we have our Public Health official, rachel levine, whos been an embarrassment to the state, spiriting her mother. I understand wanting to protect her 95 euro mother, that makes sense, but who is protecting us . Shes protecting her own mother, who is protecting our grandparents . We would like equal treatment. Tucker but you dont get that, do you . It doesnt seem like we do. Instead we get hectoring and lectured and told that were doing the wrong thing and the democrats in washington seem to do the same thing. They tell us that we should have a 3 trillion debt field, a bonanza of spending instead of just doing what we want, and going back to work in the state way, lets open economy back up in a safe way and stop having lectures every day from Governor Wolf, spent a horrible leader. We have a huge outbreak of coronavirus there. He hasnt been up there, why hasnt he been walking the streets . Why hasnt he been talking to Business Owners that are auctioning off equipment because they need to feed their family . Instead he stuck in his office in harrisburg, its disgusting. Tucker really quick. It does seem like people want to work, they want to make their own living. Thats where selfrespect comes from. But there are many who would like the entire population to be tdependent on Government Debt checks for life. Am iov imagining this . I think youre not imagining it but those people tend to be liberal democrats in the house of representatives led by nancy pelosi, supported by her lapdogs like Matt Cartwright and aoc. Even democrats, independent it doesnt matter. Where i represent, scranton, we want to work, we want to protect our elderly, do it in a safe way. We dont want government handouts, tucker. Tucker it so sad theyre using this moment, they really are. Jim, thank you so much for coming on tonight. Thank you. Tucker is not just happening in pennsylvania, the state of maine, Restaurant Owner rick savage defied governor janet mills, who has no clue what shes doing, by reopening his restaurant outside bethel, maine. Esnow she wants them destroyed r that. We will update you on his case after the break. Plus we will talk to new jersey gym owner who says hes t reopening next monday no matter what his government thinks. We will be right back. 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They have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps. Com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the Amazing Services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again tucker Oxford County maine is about double the size of the state of rhode island. It goes from the southern part of the state all the way to the canadian border. But in all of Oxford County there have been just 17 cases of the coronavirus. Nobody there has died. The hospitals in the county are empty and we know Healthy People are almost at zero risk, even if the virus does spread. In almost all businesses in the county have been ordered to stay closed. Just like the rest of maine, the governor says so. Rick savage had had enough of this, it was killing him and his family, so he came on the show and explain that he was going to exercise his right to earn a livingas and serve customers who were willing to take the risk. H we had enough of it. We are encouraging all businesses in maine to open up. We should have never been shut down in the first place. We need to open back up, get the businesses going or were going to lose a third of our restaurants. Who knows how many motels and businesses. We are advocating for everybody, not just for my restaurant, its. Ime to go back to work. Tucker governor mills was watching that night. The state economy is collapsing. That doesnt seem to bother her. Being disobeyed bothers her a lot, more than anything so she yanked the Liquor License. Now she wants to do more than that. In maine civil courts are currently shut down but mills has asks them to reopen temporarily solely to order rick savages restaurant shut down completely. That shouldnt be allowed in this country. It has nothing to do with health. In fact, restaurants across rural maine are being opening next monday. She knowst its not a threat in the world parts of the state. But shes doing it anyway. Why . Because power is what janet mills cares about. Rick savage defied her, now she will crush him. But savage does not plan to submitva to this. He spoke to our producer today and said this. They are taking us to court, trying to expedite attended Oxford County court to get a judge to stop us and shut us down and then if we defy his order that would give us a criminal record and thats what theyre trying to do, trying tos give us a criminal record to the court o systems. The judge orders you to shut down, will you comply . No. And if the police show up to arrestor, what will you do . I guess ill sleep in a prison cell for a while for it for basically trying to make in the eggs example because i defied order. If they want to make me an example, they can come after mei tucker this case, the case of rick savage, a citizen versus governor janet mills, a tyrant, is a metaphor for a lot of whats happening in this country right now. In aet thousand little towns tht were not reporting on, so we are going to follow this case very carefully. In new jersey, Governor Phil Murphy is still keeping the state under lockdown indefinitely. As long as he says so. But one Business Owner says hes sick of it. Hes fed up with the governors power grab. Ian smith owns a gym in belmar, new jersey, he says he plans to reopen his gym on monday no matter what the governor says and he has a plan for keeping hiser patrons safe. Ian smith joins us tonight, happy to have him, thanks a lot for coming on. So you know that your governor, murphy, who has all power, he can do whatever he wants to you, has said that you can do this, twhy are you doing it anyway . Ou first of all, thank you for having me tonight. Tucker its our pleasure. Thank you for sharing stories like ricks story, shelleys story, it is extremely important and i dont think enough coverage is getting there, so i appreciate you. Governor murphy has presented zero plans and i think my Business Partner and i have plans to keep people safe. We think so far this has been just a gross violation of constitutional rights. The 14th amendment states that no state shall pass any law that infringes upon our rights as citizens, and weve been forced into our homes. Which we know is not healthy for our immune systems and enough is enough. Weve gotten to the point where ive watched many businesses around me collapse, ive watched people lose their jobs and theres no progress moving forward. So we are ready to take action ourselves and we have thought long and we have thought hard about it and all of our actions come from the heart was not our best interest in mind, but what we feel is the greater good for ourselves, our community, and the state and nation as a whole. Tucker so murphy clearly doesnt know what to do to keep people safe. So many in new jersey have died. Hes arrested people for attending i weddings. You are openly defying him on television. What do you think is going to happen to you when you do this . We are prepared for any and all consequences. Our actions on monday are going to be grounded in the ideals of civil disobedience. What we intend to showcase is that we reject the premise of essential versus nonessential businesses. Anything thatia walmart can do with hundreds if not thousands of people passing through the stores every day, touching everything in sight, a small business, whether it be a restaurant, a gym, a hair salon, or anything else, can replicate those things and we can go above and beyond and we plan to do that. When we open, we are going to be taking measures that are no different than if you were to go to a doctor right now, taking temperatures at the door. We are not open for the public, if you actually look at murphys executive order, he says that gyms are closed to the public. We have a Membership Base that is not a public entity, so we will know who comes in our doors, who doesnt, and that is something that you dont see in his big box stores, they are letting a anybody in. Tucker exactly. Above and beyond. Cu tucker it looks like you have. Here are the before after. Thats your gym before the pandemic alive, heres the picture of the way it looks now. And you can see our viewers can see its very different. We have weve been out of work, we are coming up on month three now and my Business Partner frank and i are not the type of people to sit home and not the type to feelom bad for ourselves, so weve been waiting and planning because the state should reopen, but it just doesnt seem like it is, and the measures that we took are well above and beyond. We spread out the entire gym. We understand that were probably not going to be able to have max capacity, so we spread things out. Everything in the gym is more than 6 feet apart, including cardio equipment. Everything a person is walking r the gym, going to have to follow instructions or they will be asked to leave. People that walk and walk involuntarily. So we are ready to go. We are ready to show that anything that walmart for these big corporations who have been given leeway to operate freely, Small Businesses in america all around america can do, we can get back to work but we can get to work safely with Public Interest excuse me, with Public Health in mind. Ubt a single one of us, not rick savage, not shelley luther, none of us are doubting the danger of the coronavirus. What we are saying is l that we can be prosperous and we can be cautious at the same time, because if we choose one of the other, either situation is going to lead us down a dark road. Theres a Common Ground in the middle to be found and we think that we are going to show chris out on monday regardless of whatever consequences come our way. Tucker you are the most thoughtful gym owner ive ever spoken to. Really quickly, i think i may wahave mispronounced the name of your gym and i just want to get it on the record, how do you pronounce it . It is atilis. Tucker belmar, new jersey. Ian, thanks so much for coming on. Thank you so much, have a good night. Tucker dr. Tony fauci, a stone cold genius who you not allowed to question told us that masks do not work, now hes telling us they are completely essential, told us that handshaking should never be allowed but having sex with random people you meet online is totally cool. Fauci has been wrong quite a bit. Sometimes hes absurd. Now hes praising china for its transparency, and we have the tape of that. We are not attacking him, okay . We are just, as citizens, asking questions. What the hell is going on . Dr. Siegel weighs in next. Every Financial Plan needs a cfp® professional confident Financial Plans, calming Financial Plans, complete Financial Plans. Theyre all possible with a cfp® professional. Find yours at letsmakeaplan. Org. Theyre all possible with a cfp® professional. Staying connected your way youre just a tap away from personalized support on xfinity. Com. Get faster internet speeds with a click. Order xfi pods to your home in a snap. Or change your Xfinity Services with just a touch. All in one place. Youre only seconds away from all of that on xfinity. Com. Faster than a call. Easy as a tap. Now thats simple, easy, awesome. Tucker its possible that no doctor in American History has ever had as much power as Anthony Fauci has right now. But fauci is not god, despite his apparent omniscience. He told us that masks didnt work and could hurt us, he said americans shouldnt worry about the virus even as it bore down on the country. Then earlier this year, heres a tape we just found, heres what he said about china. China has been known to fiddle with their stats before. Do you trust what theyre telling us about this illness . From what i can see right now, they really are being much, much more transparent than what happened with sars, where they really keptpa that information r a while. It was embarrassing to them. They are really transparent now. They put the sequence of the virus up on the public database right away, so in that respect, theyve been transparent. Tucker fox medical contributor dr. Marc siegel joins us tonight. Doctor, that clip was on fox. David did that interview, it was a good interview. I hadnt seen until today. Im kind of surprised that dr. Fauci would say that china was so transparent. He has also said that to me. I want to start by saying that i have a lot of respect for dr. Fauci for many years, butt there are three major areas i disagree with him on strongly in the going to talk about them now. One is the chinese scientist issue. The second is lockdowns, and the third is schools. Regarding the chinese scientist, i think we were badly deceived. We were never allowed to have boots on the ground. That should have told you something. Dr. Redfield could never get the cdc in there. We were told all these types of things about this virus by chinese scientists. Meanwhile, its way more contagious than we thought. Its way more deadly than we thought and has way more side effects than we thought. Now we have seen it affecting children. Meanwhile, the chinese were locking down internally. They are in china, but were letting people go to europe and then on to the united states. It spread through highly asymptomatic people and dr. Fauci and dr. Redfield, nobodydr knew about that, so he has to admit now thatne we were badly deceived by Chinese People working for the chinese government. Second point is regarding lockdowns. There was a scientist back in 1918, he was the Health Commissioner of st. Louis. Do you know what he did . He looked at the spanish flu, and he said its coming here from boston. Second wave. You know what he did . He locked down the city and he saved thousands of lives. Way in advance of a much less contagious virus than this one. Why in advance, thats the key. Because our member, i just told you this thing, this covid19 has been spreading wildlyr, throughout society. Its too late for lockdowns. All of these door county and lockdowns are destroying our economy, leading to thousands u d d thousands of deaths from despair, from drug abuse, from alcoholism, from unemployment. We have to consider that. We should focus only on the hot spots and just do social distancing and start to take all of these cables off. Thats where dr. Fauci is wrong. Late for lockdowns. Third point, schools. Schools are not on the table here. Are you kidding me . Already kids were sent home to spread covid19 to grandmothers and regarding this fall, the 1918 2nd wave, ive been monitoring australia and so has dr. Fauci. You know many cases are in australia today . 11. Only 11 new cases. Thats the southern hemisphere. Thats essentially our november right now. It predicts that were not going to have a big second wife when our children go back to school theres going to be plenty of testing. We are going to test teachers, were going to test students. We have very mild mild cases among our young, or asymptomatic, but we are going to keep an eye on them. Finally a nonmedical point i want to end on here. Politically if you think the democrats are going to let the liberal colleges stay closed, think again. Those are their future voters. Tucker that is such a smart point. Somear of them are going to go t of business and we are going to have a little party on the show. Not a little party, big party. Dr. Siegel, wait to see you, thank you. Thank you. Tucker joe biden they are telling you is a safe and moderate democrat. Is he . May Bede Joe Biden doesnt belie anything, completely under the spell of the most radical people in this party. Dana perino will talk about that next. Tucker how terrified tucker how terrified is joe biden on the radicals in his party . Here is one measure, so terrified he just made alexandria ocasiocortez the head of his Global Warming task force. Shes the woman who blames hurricane deaths on racism. Do we see largely is the global south and communities of color that may be bearing the brunt of the initial havoc of Climate Change . Speaker without a doubt. In terms of that, the people who are producing Climate Change, the folks that are responsible for the largest amount of emissions, communities, corporations, they tend to be predominantly white, correct . Yes, and every study backs that up. Tucker s are not really a science person, that ocasiocortez. Shes running Global Warming for joe biden. Dana dana perino, always delighted to have her. Knock it down if youd like. Biden is not indebted in the leafs. Do you think thats right . It certainly gives that appearance. If you show me a science down the candidate worried about their base in the generalho election, ill show you somebods very unsteady as a candidate. I cant tell you how happy republicans were yesterday, tucker, when they found out aoc is going to be in charge of Energy Policy and p climate poly for the Biden Campaign because biden is actually courting voters that already were going to vote for him, right . Hes turning off the voters who may have voted for him. For example, aoc turns out people in the suburbs, like the districts that the republicans flip last night in california. How about the people in pennsylvania who rely on fracking jobs, they say they want to kill that through the green new deal. And the justice dems lost in wisconsin. Ellie and omar has a tough race ilhan omar has a tough race. Nobody is listening to the aocs and omars in the race because they have no power but biden is giving them your life. In its kind of baffling. Tucker its not baffling once you understand thats what we candidate does, they pander to the fringes. When you have something liket in pennsylvania thatll be a battleground, you have people in a tough spot when it comes to an employment because of the pandemic. But the energy jobs, they are in particular danger of not even coming back. If they cant come back quickly. If they think joe biden is going to bring on aoc as the climate advisor, game over. P i think President Trump will be able to win b those voters overa quite handily. Hi tucker he doesnt need to do this but hes doing it anyway which tells you something pretty weird. I mean he was able to win this nomination by knockingo thm down and now hes embracing them. It doesnt make sense. Tucker its very strange i think hes a vessel for othe others. Thats maybe the worst thing. Thank you so much for that. Goodou to see you. Odhave a good night. Tucker you too. We wish we had more time. We could do five more hours. Theres enough going on. But we dont so we are turning it over to the great sean hannity who was standing by tonight in new york. Sean can i tell you, though . What dana laid out there was a brilliant analysis. Tucker it was. Sean if they get rid of biden has many are speculating, i think its difficult to do, thats the whole groupthink known as the democratic socialist party. Th there are no moderates left in the party. They are all extreme radical socialists, they all buy into this ocasiocortez nonsense. Great show host, great analysis by both of you. Tucker good to see you. Sean have a great night. Welcome to hannity. Buckle up. Two massive developments in the biggest abuse of power Corruption Scandal in American History. Dozens of top obama officials have unmasked, surveilled Lieutenant GeneralMichael Flynn in the weeks after