100 Million People. On february 28th as the disease is spread through europe, he publicly endorsed the chinese model of quarantine, specifically. Keep in mind as he spoke the words are about to seek and the videos were circulating on the internet showing police in wuhan throwing screaming citizens into the back of panel trucks and driving them to some unspecified internment somewhere. Ferguson must have known the chinese governments response in wuhan was extreme and utterly inhumane, he endorsed it anyway. Thats how serious he was about this virus. One has to adopt Community Measures which have been adopted particularly in places like wuhan in china where you have to reduce contacts between people in the community, sorts of measures are important. If anybody has any sort of respiratory disease, they have to stay at home until their symptoms are fully resolved. Tucker seems like kind of a reserved academic and all of a sudden hes endorsing the wuhan response. Leaders around the world paid attention to this, they took his advice and locked down their entire populations, the British Government asked ferguson to help design is quarantine as a member of the Scientific Advisory group for emergency. He was happy to help shut down the entire United Kingdom but it turns out he wasnt that interested at all in participating it personally. The telegraph reported he ignored his own lock downs while the rest of london stay trapped indoors, fergus he repeatedly invited his married mistress over to his apartment for sex and most striking of all, he was infected with the coronavirus at the time. He became sick and tested positive in midmarch, he said so publicly at the time. Not long after that he invited his mistress over. By doing this, he exposed her to a deadly virus, he also exposed her husband and her children back home. When confronted the day, he said this. I acted in the belief that i was immune, that was his explanation. The problem is there is no scientific proof that thats true, can someone who was sick a few weeks ago still transmit the coronavirus . We are not sure. For a famous scientist, Neil Ferguson is curiously ignorant of science. Hes also obviously unappalling hypocrite and hes not alone in that. So many of the people making our policies are like this, almost compulsively again and again they do the very things they punish us for doing. When they are caught, they acknowledge no shame, they are entirely lacking in selfawareness, they discredit themselves without even realizing it. Almost immediately after telling the rest of new york city to stay inside, mayor bill de blasio loaded up his suv with government bodyguards and headed to the gym across town in brooklyn, a government spokesman later explain the trip was necessary because his jim has been a huge part of his and his familys life. De blasio likes his jim so he kept going there despite telling you not to. Got it. Weeks later, he still couldnt stay out of brooklyn, one day he and his wife left home in manhattan and drove more than 1r some sunshine and fresh air. Based on the citizen happen to see the whole thing and videotape it. You guys have a part, you live in the middle of a park, you dont need to travel to brooklyn. You wont even open roads for people of all backgrounds. Im not going to give it a break, this is selfish behavior, this is that the up enemy of nonessential travel. Tucker nonessential travel, whats that . When you make the rules, thats not even a category. Just ask justin trudeau, the preachy Prime Minister of canada. On april 12, he released a video commanding canadians to stay in their homes for easter, its what would do he declared. As we reflect ons message of love and compassion, lets think about our Health Care Workers and essential Service Workers who are on the front lines every day, putting into practice what it truly means to love our neighbors as ourselves by making sacrifices to protect their health. Lets stay home for them. Tucker thats the kind of quarantine endorses, love means staying home. For you, not for them. Not long after recording the video you just saw, he left the capitol and traveled all the way to quebec to visit his family at their lake house, just like you would want to do on easter if you were allowed to do that but youre not allowed, so stop complaining. You might also want to get your hair cut and in chicago last month, that was not allowed to come you can get your hair cut up at the citys mayor Lori Lightfoot had her hair done anyway when she was caught doing this, she didnt even blush. We played this clip for you on fridays show but its one of those videos no matter how many times you watch it it drops your jaw every time. On the public face of this city, im on National Media and im out in the public eye. A person i take my personal hygiene very seriously. I felt like i needed to have a haircut, im not able to do that myself and so i got a haircut. Tucker got that . Shut up, paroles im on national television. Chris cuomo knows that feeling very well. Last month he drove to a piece of property he owns in the hamptons were apparently hes building a new weekend house. At that time, he was infected with the coronavirus and suffering from symptoms. He was supposed to be quarantined in total isolation in his basement full time, thats what he told his Television Audience he was. Night after night, he put on shows that revolves around his struggles with the illness in his virtuous and even selfless efforts to prevent others from getting infected with it. Given all the publicity he generated for being sick at least one hamptons resident was shocked to see him out and about and confronted him about it. He responded by calling the man a loser, the mans real name is david whalen and we invited him on the show. I just said dont you have the coronavirus . Action to be quarantined . I think his next words were what the hell do you know about this, what you know about the rules and i said youre not supposed to be out here nobody had gloves on, nobody had masks on. Tucker did you hear that detail . No gloves, no masks. Uninfected man circulating among an unsuspected population. When you watch television you imagine hes a responsible journalist, thats how he describes himself. In fact, hes typhoid mary and theres a vast gap between those two personas. For the average person hypocrisy is the most embarrassing thing of all, getting caught the way he did would spur a nexus mental crisis and most people, you might decide to devote the rest of your life to personal humility an in response. Chris cuomo didnt look back, he blamed the other guy and kept going, he was right there on Television Just last night haranguing people for doing precisely what he did. Others also feel my fatigue. Ive had it, the season is changing, its getting warm, i want to get back to it, look at these fools, fools i know they want to be out there, its not about you. What about the other people . Im not going to castigate you, thats not my job, im not your daddy. Tucker fools its not about you says the buff cnn anchor, because if theres one thing in this world that chris cuomo cant stand, its narcissism, he hates it. It doesnt seem to occur to quiz cuomo for a moment that he may be describing himself, it never occurs to any of these people. Its never one time occurred to chris cuomos brother the governor of new york, new york, andrew cuomo gave a pungent press briefing as he so often does. Watch this clip and tell us what you notice. I think its disrespectful of people not to wear masks. Think about it, do i think local government should be enforcing it and should they be sanctions . Yes because its a Public Health emergency and i think there should be a penalty. Because you could literally kill someone. You could literally kill someone because you didnt want to wear a mask. Tucker here that . Its disrespectful, you could literally kill someone by not wearing a mask says the man not wearing a mask who happens to be sitting next to other people who are not wearing masks. Do they hear themselves when they talk like this . On some level they do, they know they are hypocritical frauds and thats exactly what they lecture you so hysterically, it makes them feel better. They probably suspect you know what too, they simply dont care enough about your opinion to bother with what you think. Thats all of them. This would be infuriating if these people didnt run the world but its worse than that because they do. As we sat at the top, may be no Single Person has done more to lockdown western civilization than professiona professor neilf london. Alex, thanks a lot for coming on tonight. For viewers its our honor who arent steeped in recent history of Neil Ferguson, why should we care that hes a hypocrite . This is an incredibly important scientist as youve set a couple times correctly, he is probably the most important person in driving governments response to the lockdown, there was a New York Times story on march 17th that highlighted Imperial College and mentioned him by name as having the ear of the British Government and boris johnson. Just today when he was forced to resign because he didnt follow his own rules or the rules the British Government had put out, the guardian said again refer to how important he was. There is no question he violated the lockdown, he said on march 18th he tweeted he had symptoms of the coronavirus and he met this woman on march 30th, that is not outside the two week limit, its within the limit theres no way around that. One of the great ironies, she said i thought it was one household, i dont know what her husband or children think of that. Tucker the irony here is overwhelming but at its root, its a real person making these decisions and i wonder what does it tell you about what Neil Ferguson actually thinks . He not only violated the quarantines he espoused but he exposed other people to the virus, what does that tell you . This is a great question and with the way people behave it suggests that they are much more aware of where the risks really are here and we know im getting sick of people saying we dont know much about this virus, we dont know enough to know what the right steps are if thats true, why have we shut down the world . We do know a lot about this virus and we know the average age of death in the United States and worldwide is probably about 80 or 82 and we know about half if not more of the people who die in the United States die in Nursing Homes. We know enough to know we should protect those people and instead our leaders are spending time haranguing us about masks and destroying the economy with lockdowns and every day it makes less sense and every day its more infuriating. Tucker it sounds like youre suggesting some of the people espousing these measures which are really warping and destroying our society know they are really not necessary. If they dont know, they are fools and havent read the data which is publicly available, available on their own government website. And if they do know, i dont know what they are doing. You and i have talked a couple of times and for a month ive been waiting for the reality and the data to start to hit people and its been very slow. Many states have these phased in lockdown plans that have unrealistic benchmarks, oregons benchmarks are crazy, illinois benchmarks, many of the blue state lockdown states have these benchmarks that are very difficult to meet and is it going to take people in the streets . That seem to help a little bit in california last week but i dont know what its going to take for people to start being realistic here. Not people, but lawmakers. Tucker let me ask you one last question, you just said about half of the deaths have taken place in longterm care and Nursing Homes which is really sad, but it raises the obvious question, why arent we going all in on protecting people and Long Term Care and Nursing Homes . We arent at all. Thats a fantastic question, why doesnt every nursing home get surveyed by the state every day, why arent they required to show staff plans that they arent going to let Staff Members infect uninfected older people, why isnt this the focus . There are things we could and should be doing but when we are spending all our time trying to scare people who are very low risk and very successfully one of the incredibly sad things about this is how many people wont go outside. They will not leave their homes. By doing that we are doing exactly the wrong things. I dont know, i dont make policy, all i can do is point out the hypocrisies as you so brilliantly just did. Tucker Alex Berenson who would have won a pulitzer this week if the system had been fair for your reporting on this which has been ahead of almost anyone, great to see you tonight. Were going to have more in a minute in this hour on the question of Nursing Homes, Nursing Homes really have been crushed in a way that most communities havent by this virus. Our government isnt responding in the way you think they would if they cared, why . For now, for the past six weeks politicians across the country have banned socalled elective medical procedures and as a direct result of these misguided orders, millions of americans have been denied essential care, some have died. It turns out a number of specific procedures have been exempted from the lockdowns abortions famously are now deemed essential thanks to the and only thanks to the Massive Campaign contributions of the abortion lobby. Cosmetic procedures are also allowed, they arent available to you, you cant get them, youre going to have to live with your sagging neck and wrinkles but they are available to certain governors and congressional leaders and we know this because its obvious. Several times in the last couple of weeks weve been contacted on this show by plastic surgeons who are watching after we played tape of democratic politicians and they confirmed unequivocably, these people have had work done and recently. Botox, cheek implants, various other cosmetic enhancements that people get but never talk about. Under normal circumstances we wouldnt talk about it either because its nobodys business and its embarrassing but under these circumstances when people in wheelchairs are banned from getting knee replacements, we have an obligation to talk about it. Reporters ought to ask these politicians and its very obvious who they are, point blank when exactly did you get that work done . Please explain why that was an essential medical procedure. Even by the standards of the nauseating hypocrisy we are accustomed to from our political class, this is too much. Botox for me but not for the end you know who we are talking about. Weve told you quite a bit about what tara reade is alleging about joe biden, but what about the allegations themselves . What are they, are they true, whats the evidence . Were going to dig deep into that specific question because the story is not going away, well be right back. 49. 50 daddy, i found you good job. Now im gonna stay here and you go hide. Watch your favorites from anywhere in the house with the Xfinity Stream app. Free with your xfinity service. Now any room can be a tv room. Stream live tv, on demand shows and movies, even your dvr recordings. Download the Xfinity Stream app today to stream the entertainment you love. Tucker weve done a number of segments on this show about tara reade and her allegations against joe biden, weve told you about bidens weird reaction to the charges, he stammered when asked we told you at length about the infuriating and sickening hypocrisy of the media and the professional feminist movement. Believe all women . They dont, it depends on the politics. One thing we have not yet addressed in any detail is reads the story itself, what does she say happened between herself and joe biden, is there any evidence to back it up . We probably shouldve started their witches is at the beginning. We want to take you through the details of the story because we think we are going to be hearing a lot more about it and its good to be grounded in what the facts are. Tara reade worked as an aid in joe bidens Senate Office in washington from december 1992 to august of 1993. In a recent interview, she said in the spring of 1993 she found herself alone with joe biden in an isolated corner of capitol hill, she later said it was in the basement of the Senate Office building but it was in the senate. Biden, she said, pinned her against the wall, kissed her and reached up under her skirt and penetrated her with his fingers, horrifying. She pulled away from biden and as she pulled away he became angry, youre nothing to me she says biden hissed at her. She complained to her superiors but didnt provide any of these horrifying details, a short time after she complained, she was fired, thats what she says. Did this happen, did this assault and its particulars take place, we cant know for sure it was more than 25 years ago but heres the evidence reade points to to support her case. Two unnamed friends of hers have spoken to Media Outlets hearing that she complained about harassment at the time, reades brother and a neighbor also say they heard something about it, then theres a recently unearthed cnn clip from 1993 in which an unnamed woman calls into larry king live and asks larry king what her daughter to do about problems with a u. S. Senator. Hello. Yes, hello. Im wondering what a staffer is to do besides go to the press in washington, my daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator and could not get through with her problems at all and the only thing she could have done was go to the press and she chose not to do it out of respect. She had a story to tell but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didnt tell it. Thats true. Tucker that clip just emerged, it was found by someone on twitter and thats a real clip. Reade says the woman you heard is her mother, we cant confirm that because her mother has passed away but the facts seems to match, the color identifies herself as being from st. Louis, reades mother lived there at the time. There is evidence on the other side as well and we feel honor bound to tell you about it. Just last year, tara reade told a different story about what happened with joe biden. In 2019, she said he touched her inappropriately on the neck and shoulders, she said not that she was fired for complaining about harassment much less for being penetrated by joe biden, she said she was fired because she refused to serve drinks at an event. That was the version of the story that reades brother remembered one was asked. He told reporters she mentioned him touching her neck and shoulders, he didnt mention anything about assault. A several days later, he texted reporters to say he also remembered reade saying biden reached under her clothes and assaulted her. Then theres a question of her politics, we normally wouldnt get into that because its not germane but keep in mind this story is unfolding during a president ial campaign and its also playing out against the backdrop of fierce infighting within the democratic party, you might not know much about event and lester connected to them but its intense, the establishment people and the Many Democrats anwho still support Bernie Sanders. Atari read appears to be in the Bernie Sanders camp. Intercept reporter brian grimm tweeted a headtohead biden versus sanders contest will force voters to have a close look at biden again, that went very badly for him last time. Should he suggest we would be taking a close look at biden . She responded yep, timing. Wait for it. Tick tock. Thats cryptic, was she referring to her plans to announce the assault story, suggesting it was politically timed . We dont know that, we have no evidence of it but its interesting and possible. Its notable before joe biden started beating Bernie Sanders in the primary, tara reade wasnt attacking joe biden, instead she had effusively positive things to say about him. In 2017, tara reade repeatedly praised joe biden for his work against Sexual Assault. At one point reade wrote my old boss speaks the truth. She was like in comments that biden had made saying he opposed the Sexual Assault of women. In retrospect knowing all that we know now about what reade says happened, statements like that are baffling. They are hard to understand or to explain. As we learned so bitterly during the Brett Kavanaugh hearing, political imperatives sometimes influence claims like this, that does not mean that tara reade is some kind of liar or a devious partisan, we dont know that is true and we are not saying it now, we are not asserting that. But the timing does mean and this is our duty that we ought to keep our guard up as this story progresses, those of us who cover its Going Forward should be very wary of being used. Again, this is a president ial year. Weigh everything against the facts, take nothing for granted. The one thing you can be certain of this year is you are being lied to. Thats what we know so far about the tara reade story, those of the facts, decide for yourself what you make of them, well be updating it regularly. Youve heard a lot about meat shortages in america right now, how bad are they . Heres one data point, one of the biggest fast food chains in the country is out of hamburgers which one . How bad could this get . Well tell you next. Tucker one major burger restaurant is running out of burgers, which one . Heres a hint, the chain advertises its meat as fresh, never frozen. Selling more substantial burgers and other places. Trace gallagher is here with the answer to that question. The answer in ten seconds but if you go to costco right now and you want beef, pork, or poultry, the limit is three items. At kroger, meat is also limited and at some wendys in california, kentucky, and south carolina, they have temporarily taken burgers off the menu altogether. If you find meat thats going to cost you more because production is down an estimated 25 nationally, mostly because 7,000 meatpacking employees have contracted covid19 because dozens of plants have shut down and hundreds more or implement big social distance in which limits employees and cuts production or is Something Else at play . Iowa attorney general tom miller and a Bipartisan Group of ages from other states have now sent a letter to u. S. Attorney general bill barr asking for an investigation into pricefixing, the state attorneys general state of the four largest Meat Companies control more than 80 of u. S. Beef and despite covid19 problems, the price of beef is way too high especially when the price of cattle is very low. Tucker strange paradox. Thanks for that report. Its making me hungry. Nursing home residents face by far the greatest risk from dying of coronavirus. In new york, Andrew Cuomos administration required nursing home facilities to readmit employees who had tested positive for the virus, which is demented and that policy may have helped drive the states massive death toll. In the state of new york, 25 of all coronavirus deaths have been in longterm care facilities. The state updated to add 1700 more deaths to that total. Charles is author of the book resisting throwaway culture, he is one of the few intellectuals in this country who worries about people in longterm care and we are glad that he does. Thanks so much for coming on. This has gotten so little attention and longterm facilities have gotten so little protection from the government that it seems to tell us something about our priorities. It does. I wrote a book called resisting throwaway culture and i cant imagine a better example, a more tragic example of throwaway culture at work. It was bad even before the pandemic, terrible pay to these workers, residents were abused, virtually no government support. Then Governor Cuomo turn this up to 11 in my state of new york and we heard him talk and go on and on about the preciousness of human life, invaluable he said, can we really believe him based on how he treated the workers in the residence in the nursing home in new york . Tucker what would be the reasoning here . We did this story and it stuck with me ever since, im not making a partisan point, its sincere. Why would the governor of new york prevent Nursing Homes longterm care facilities from banning employees with a deadly virus, why would he do that . I dont know for sure but we can speculate with educated speculation, you and i have talked before about the possibility of there being rationing in new york and other places, it turns out there wasnt the need for it. But do we have to revisit that question again . Many thousands of people in this country and hundreds in new york died at Nursing Homes and died at their homes in fact, alone in their homes. These people, many should have been in hospitals, what wouldve happened if they wouldve went to hospitals . Thats an important question that hasnt been asked that needs to be asked. Tucker i think what youre suggesting is the policy encouraged people to stay in Nursing Homes, not get hospital treatment because our authorities didnt want hospitals crowded with really old people and so they died more frequently, is that what youre saying . Its a possibility we have to consider. What possible reason could there be for sending covid positive patients back to Nursing Homes who had no ppe, no training and who knows . But the best thing i can come up with as they didnt want the hospitals to be overwhelmed, if they took down and made sure they werent dying alone without their families being able to see them, what would have happened . May be we wouldve had stories we all thought were going to happen. Tucker may be, its something we should examine. Im worried that we wont come in the crush of so much going on well never get to the bottom of that but it seems like one of the key bad decisions made during this whole thing. I hope we find out, thank you for your help on this. And the lack who ran nbc news is gone, he left yesterday and was ousted. But the story hasnt ended, new reports indicate the doj is investigating the culture of abuse that andy lack oversaw at the company. That raises a lot of questions about why is president Noah Oppenheim still employed by nbc, Nicole Wallace, did she speak up about this . Why did she support andy lack . We also expect to confirm a fox news alert during this break, some major news, standby for that. This virus is testing all of us. And its testing the people on the front lines of this fight most of all. So abbott is getting new tests into their hands, delivering the critical results they need. And until this fight is over, we. Will. Never. Quit. Because they never quit. Tucker heres the fox news alert we promised, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been hospitalized once again at this hour, the 87yearold justice suffered on infection apparently caused by a gallstone. She is expected to presen partie in Supreme Court oral arguments tomorrow, we will continue to monitor the story for developments. It took far too long but it looks like nbc head andy lack is finally leaving nbc news almost three years after he was exposed covering up for a serial predator, Harvey Weinstein. Even more justice could be on the way, the story keeps growing. We discussed a possible government investigation to harassment at nbc with a former producer who worked on the weinstein story. I have heard that new York AttorneyGenerals Office is investigating nbc on sexual abuse, Sexual Harassment claims. That is true, im aware of it, ive been looking into it for a story. It was the new York AttorneyGenerals Office civil division, were not sure if it could be anything criminal but i know they are interviewing employees over a number of months. Tucker that was rich mccue, a long time nbc producer who worked on the Harvey Weinstein story. There is new evidence that the investigation he referred to is in progress. According to variety, the new York AttorneyGenerals Office has been investigating nbc news since last fall. Elizabeth, thanks for joining us. What is the status of this investigation, what are they looking at the . Right now we are actually unclear if the investigation is still pending, i have sources who told me that with the coronavirus pandemic, it could possibly be but theres no reason to believe it is not currently ongoing. The District Attorneys Office did not get back to me on that but what i can tell you is i have heard from a numerous sources and a few women on the record who were questioned by the Attorney Generals Office, they started to speak with them in the fall, the latest that they spoke to them was in january. The basis of this probe into nbc news was for gender discrimination and retaliation based on Sexual Harassment, these women have spoken up whether it was to the media or internal reporting to Human Resources or there was onair talent who covered these stories about matt lauer, about Harvey Weinstein on air and they were retaliated. In my report published today, some of the women who were questioned by the Attorney Generals Office were megyn kelly and we all know what happened with her at nbc and also linda vester, shes a former war correspondent and fox news journalist and about two years ago she confirmed her allegations against tom brokaw which she broke exclusively with a set variety. Tucker we spoke with some people today too, there are a lot of them. And the lack left yesterday. Noah oppenheim was the other executive, there he is on the right who helped squash the weinstein story, in between them is Nicole Wallace who is currently an anchor. It does raise the question, have current nbc employees complained about the behavior of their executives or are they backing the executives where are they . Ive spoken too many people within nbc past and present. The general consensus has been hallelujah, andy lack is finally out, it took too long. But people are still saying theres more that has to be done. You mentioned Noah Oppenheim, he was heavily mentioned in ronan farrows book, rich mccue is ronan farrows producer. It doesnt take a genius to figure out that andy lacks successor was going to be Noah Oppenheim and now hes going to be replaced by someone else, thats probably not good news. Tucker its really hard to see how Nicole Wallace stays at that network, obviously im not in charge of hr but given everything we know its hard to imagine shell keep her job. I know youll be the first to break it if she leaves. Up next, china has erected the Worlds Largest censorship regime to hide the truth from its own people. Hollywood movie studios are part of that play, they play along with the communist party to gain access to the chinese market. Studios in california have censored and rewritten American Films to please china, the upcoming top gun sequel was censored, tom cruise iconic flight jacket was changed, and no longer has a taiwanese flag. This is an outrage, senator ted cruz is infuriated by it and says its time for the government to punish studios who grovel before their chinese masters, thanks so much for coming on. The problem with china generally is enormous and this should be a wakeup call to the entire world, this pandemic that is playing out. The problem with censorship is a massive problem within china. Chinas own censorship and coverup of this pandemic helped produce a 257,000 deaths worldwide and when it comes to hollywood, hollywood is not an innocent bystander here. Hollywood is fully complicit, hollywood works with the chinese sensors, hollywood has been willing over and over again, theres so much money at stake. You pointed out top gun, think about that for a second. The original top gun may have been the greatest Navy Recruiting film ever made. They didnt just change the taiwanese flag, they also remove the japanese flag, both of them were on the back of mavericks jacket and the studios didnt want to take off the chinese sensors so they pulled it down. What are we saying to the world that the maverick is afraid of the Chinese Communists . Ill give you another example. Bohemian rhapsody, fabulous movie, terrific biopic of Freddie Mercury, the lead singer of queen. The chinese sensors demanded they edit out scenes showing that Freddie Mercury was gay. Pause to think about how many hollywood producers like duke virtue signal about their courage and free speech and artistic integrity and they happily try to edit out the fact that Freddie Mercury was gay . Its extraordinary. Tucker i never saw a press release from Human Rights Campaign complaining about that, i wonder why. I pointed this out the other day and several lgbt magazines began attacking me, how dare can ted cruz stand up and fight for gay rights. I am against censorship and against Chinese Communists and i believe in truth. You cant tell Freddie Mercurys life without acknowledging that he was gay, it was a big part of his life and he was an incredibly talented musician. Tucker and 20 seconds, tell me what the senate can do about this. The pentagon assists hollywood over and over again with access to planes, ships, assets, a thousand movies, i introduced legislation that says you dont get to use pentagon assets if youre going to cooperate with chinese sensors, we arent going to facilitate Chinese Communist censorship. Tucker amen, good for you, i hope you yank their tax credits too. Great to see you, thank you for doing that. Dr. Marc siegel up next with some Pretty Amazing news on the progression of the coronavirus. Well be right back. Tucker for the past two months, youve been threatened with arrest if you go outside, but for the wrong reasons. Why do we say this . Because of models. Computer programs predicted a catastrophe if we didnt shut down society. By now, those models are wrong, very wrong. Yet we are still making policy based on those models. Should we be doing that, why are we doing that . Fox news contributor dr. Marc siegel with more on that plus, the coronavirus could be mutating in a good way. Doctor, thank you for coming on tonight. You talked about Neil Ferguson earlier in the show and Neil Ferguson has been advising the government and the United Kingdom, meanwhile, years ago he said that 200 Million People were going to die of bird flu. 200 million, and it ended up being about a hundred. Under the coronavirus situation with our pandemic, he has said that 2. 2 people were going to die in the United States alone as of march, but it isnt only the other side of the pond where we have this issue. Over here at Johns Hopkins university this past week has said theres going to be 200,000 cases a day by june with 3,000 people dying. And the more moderate institute of Health Metrics and evaluation is now upping their numbers from one week. They say now by august instead of 65,000 people dying its going to be 135,000 in one week, they doubled their numbers. What does all of this mean . That it is pure speculation, that Mathematical Modeling is based on numbers we dont have. How many people actually have coronavirus, covid19 . How contagious is it . How many asymptomatic cases are out there . We dont know. Pure speculation like merlin with his crystal ball. Now, speaking of speculation, heres more speculation. A group in los alamos has looked at covid19, sars, the name of the virus commends that its becoming a lot more contagious. A group in Arizona State is saying it is becoming weaker. Contagious, weaker, those are speculations based on just a tiny molecule but our own dr. Dr. Khalil in nebraska, i spoke to him today and you showed him on the show last week, a terrific scientist out of nebraska medicine that is seeing more patients with covid19 than probably anyone who has said that this virus, as far as he can tell, is currently stable. Tucker . Tucker so, not getting stronger and not getting weaker. Very, very quick, just in a few seconds, but do you think that our models, our projection models are being updated often enough in this country . I think they are being updated often enough, but with inaccurate information. I dont think we should be making decisions based on these models. We need to make our decisions, talker, based on real data, on real cases, on real testing and knowing whats happening. We are scaring ourselves more than we are already scared unnecessarily. Tucker really smart point, as always. Dr. Siegel, great point tonight. Great to see you. Thanks. Tucker thats about it for this hour. Boy, it went quick. Things usually do. Have the best night, hopefully with the ones that you love. Sean hannity stands by in new york city. Let the great hannity desk sweep you around here. Sean wears that one . Who is that . Tucker all right, thank you. Tucker thank you. Sean welcome to hannity. We start tonight, fox news alert, Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been hospitalized apparently with an infection. Trace gallagher joins us with a full report coming up. Plus, the crisis and liberal cities and states all across the country. What we have are highly taxed, highly regulated blue states and they would like the rest of america to pay for all there, lets see, debts, deficits and all the unfunded pension that they already pay for themselves and their own. Heres the rule, wasteful