And because housing facilities are overflowing and because of legal limits on how long Migrant Children can be held, Border Agents are no loading migrants into vans and buses and driving them 150 miles away to a Greyhound Bus station in San Bernardino. We saw the dropoffs first hand in San Bernardino last week. The migrants are released pending court dates, but of course the vast majority never show up for court. Critics say the migrants shouldnt be dumped at the bus station with no resources im about migrants interviewed by reuters say they feel safe in the u. S. And were treated well by Border Agents. Remember, it is 1 of 9 sectors along the u. S. Mexico border and its like this at all of them. If the customs and Border Protection because the situation both a humanitarian and operational crisis. Meantime, about 30 miles from San Bernardino, an unknown number of migrants were flown to the Border Patrol facility in murrieta, california, but some members of the community were quick to stand in front of the Border Patrol gates to let the migrants know they were not welcome to stay. Residents say they heard the migrants would eventually be dropped off at strip malls and bus stations, but the police now say none of the migrants are being released, though it is very unclear where they will go next. Tucker. Tucker that is the question. Trace gallagher on that story for us. Thanks a lot. So take three steps back and assess what youve just heard. Federal agents are dumping thousands of illegal aliens at bus stations and then simply walking away. They dont want to do it, they have no choice. Congress wont help them. Our system is in total collapse. Nobodys even trying to protect you or our country. Kirsten gillibrand is a u. S. Senator and a democratic president candidate. She thinks what is happening is just fine. On sunday, she went on television to explain that we have no right to detain Illegal Immigrants. Instead, they should be released directly into our country. But youre with the Obama Administration did in terms of keeping Families Together or keeping them together for a longer period of time and attention . As president of the United States, i wouldnt use the detention system at all. Homeland security is seen hundreds of thousands of people are crossing the border and they need to go somewhere before at their asylum claims are actually hurt. What would you do with them . They dont need to be incarcerated. If they are given a lawyer and given a process, they will follow it. Tucker it goes without saying that functioning societies dont operate like this. Countries that care about their people enforce their own laws. Our leaders are decadent and narcissistic. They care only about themselves. They will never defend our nation. Thats obvious, and the rest of the world knows it. The american pinata has been getting pummeled for decades and now it has finally come apart. Our National Wealth is up for grabs by whoever gets here first. And they are coming. Over just the past year, 1 of the entire population of the nation of guatemala has moved to the United States. Wall street journal piece last month decides the plate of that countrys villages. Some of them are literally repopulating as people stream north to americas generous welfare state. Meanwhile in a study for the federation for American Immigration reform given exclusively to the show shows the scale on which the United States is being plundere plundered. Every year foreignborn workers send about 150 billion in remittances to their friends and family overseas. Thats more than the gdp of 18 american states. Illegal aliens alone are admitting 28 billion. Thats 20 billion leaving this country going abroad every year from people who dont even have the legal right to work here in the first place, but are, and are benefiting of course from all the extras, carefree education, housing, food stamps, who knows what else. At the remittances are not taxed. In the case of Illegal Immigrants working under the table, their original earnings have never been taxed either. So this is a disaster, but its not a natural disaster. We could have prevented it with a wall, mandatory everify, remittance taxes, you could easily fix this crisis. It wouldnt take much. If not fixed because congress doesnt want to fix it. Just today, ben carson faced a hostile reception on capitol hill. Why . Because he dared to suggest that illegal aliens should be ineligible for Public Housing. Watch this exchange with congresswoman Carol Maloney of new york. Mr. Secretary, the d in hud does not stand for deportation. Im afraid that a recent proposal of yours will bring nothing but despair to thousands of American Families by throwing children out of their homes, and what is your plan to take care of them . If you read the role carefully, you will see that it provides a sixmonth deferral on request if they have not filed another place to live and that can be renewed two times for a total of 18 months, which is plenty of time for congress to engage in comprehensive Immigration Reform so that this becomes a moot point, as does the daca situation and a hundred other things. Tucker spirit secretary benn joins us tonight. Mr. Secretary, thank you very much for coming on. Thank you. Tucker as you will know, congresswoman maloney called her proposal despicable, but its my understanding that its illegal for illegal aliens to be living in Public Housing in the first place, is it not . Thats correct. Section 214 of the house and Community Act of 1980 specifically states that the secretary of hud is prohibited from providing Housing Assistance to people who are in the country illegally. And what people sometimes dont understand is that we have millions of illegal americans in line waiting for these very scarce resources. What congresswoman and many others also dont realize is that we have provided a mechanism whereby people who are affected, illegals who are affected and cant find housing, can have delayed action for six months, which can be renewed twice for a total of 18 months, which of course is plenty of time for congress to do its job. So for them to suggest that i should break the law, what is the real implication . That we can just pick and choose the laws we want to enforce and embrace . Of course we feel sympathy for people. Of course we dont want anybody out on the streets, but the real thing that is hurting people is our failure to address this immigration system that rules that are drawing people here and keeping them here and that are so unfair to american citizens who have been paying taxes and working here. We taken 1. 1 Million People legally through our immigration system, which is far more than any other country, and let that system work. But it cant work when we have all of these perverse means which drawing people here. Tucker so we have hundreds of thousands of americans sleeping outside every night for homeless and theyre everywhere. Absolutely. Tucker and youre telling us there are many thousands of illegal aliens living at public expense in Public Housing and congress has some concern about whats why would that be a concern at all . Foreign citizens breaking our laws, why wouldnt we spend all of our time at all of our money worrying about americans were living on the streets . You would think we would do that. Whenever you get on an airplane in the initial announcements say if theres an emergency, your oxygen mask will drop down, put yours on first and then assist your neighbor. Obviously we need to take care of our people. Doesnt mean that we are not compassionate people. It means that we are logical people. And lets take care of our people. Im very happy. I told the congresswoman and others if you can find a way that i can legally do what you want me to do, please tell me what it is. Im all ears. Tucker how did she respond respond . Changed the subject of course. They dont seem to want to deal with the ideal that congress is the one who makes the laws. Instead they would rather just say to you why dont you break the law so that we can feel good about ourselves . Why dont they do their jobs . Thats what they were elected to do. The American People have a real choice to make care. They need to decide what kind of people do they want representing us and it cant just be somebody whose name you recognize. It needs to be people who are willing to roll up their sleeves and do the tough things that need to be done in order for our country to prosper. And when our country is prosperous, i think we can then turn our attention to some of these other countries and see what we can do to help them, but we need to get hours in order first. Spiritual congresswoman maloney is pressuring you to break the law. If she is a lawmaker. She could try to change the law, shes not bothering. Isnt that prima facie evidence that shes not a serious person . Thats buffoonish. It is very sad. It would be nice if she were the only one. But there are many who feel that way and i dont think they really thought through whats going on. They just allow themselves to be caught up in the moment and they want to be popular and are not thinking long term about what the impact is of what theyre doing. Theyre not thinking about our children and our grandchildren and what they will have to face. Its just what makes me look good today. Tucker ive noticed. Secretary ben carson, thanks very much for that. Thank you. Tucker bob kyle is a resident of murrieta, california, where an unknown number of Illegal Migrants recently were brought for processing. Where are they now . Thats open to question. Joins us live tonight. Thanks very much for coming on. We love you, tucker. Tucker thanks, and we are glad to have someone from california right on the front lines of all of this giving us an account of what is happening. So people were in the country illegally were brought to your town. Where are they, what happened to them . What do you know . They are flowing in from el paso sunday evening, sunday afternoon and brought up by bus from brownsville airport in san diego near the border to muriatic, which is about 60 miles north. Thats my town. And for processing there. In the processing takes 24, 48, 72 hours. We dont know exactly, but they are there with one toilet basically. If they have, i understand from the sources that i have, that there is tuberculosis there, scabies, and other things that are right now in our community. These people go through processing. Im sure theyre great, some of them are great people, but then they get, i understand, a bus about her and they go down i was told that they are taken to the local temecula law, a neighboring town, and they can take a bus anymore. We suggest that they go to a sanctuary city like los angeles, lectures home, or San Francisco or portland and not murietta and temecula. We are at century city to the rest of tucker can i stop you there . Yes, sir. Tucker just for our viewers were no googling your town, temecula, horn from california, they are discovering that youre nowhere near the border. Youre nowhere near mexico. We are not. Tucker why are people being flown and bused to your town . Who thought of that and whats the point of it, do you know . There is a Border Patrol station in murietta. So there is Border Patrol agents there and we thank them for that. We love our station there. That station takes care of the i 15 corridor. They do a lot of drug busts on that highway and a lot of they used to catch a lot of illegal aliens on the highway. So they are there for another purpose. They were actually about 10 miles north of that. They had a border checkpoint exactly about 60 miles or 50 miles north of the border. By law i think they could have that. We do have those in the United States. So that border station is legally there. Tucker but its just interesting they are being flown from texas to yorktown. Have you or anyone else in the town been consulted on this . Has anyone asked her opinion . We found out this by inside sources that i cant divulge, but its been confirmed by the police chief of marietta they are there and it was confirmed by a Border Patrol agent, a senior one today that i talked to that yes they are there. So we know that they are there and actually ive been told there is 105 of them that this is not new, that theyve actually been coming in since 2014 when we had thousands of demonstrators out in the street in the town. So i dont know if you know about that. Tucker i do. And i suspect there may be more news from your town and i hope you will keep us posted on what happen. Thanks very much for that update. Appreciate it. Sure, thank you. Tucker thank you. A rising percentage of americans, including a majority of young people, say that socialism would be good for this country. Why would they think that . We will invest to latest numbers with Victor Davis Hanson after the break. Edit card debt. 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The chancellor of that School System says is monolithically progressive School System is in fact hot. Of secret racism. Spending some unknown but doubtless an enormous amount of money forcing his administrators to attend workshops where they are warned about the hallmarks of whats a pharmacy culture. Those are the words we just read to you. Those are white supremacist ideas. This culture includes all the things which is named, but much more. According to him, whats a premise he is everywhere and every white person participates in it and if you disagree with him at all, youre fragile,ar youre of course a racist, part of the problem. Right now, by the way, four women are suing the School District in new york. They say they were demoted entirely because of their skin color. So it turns out he is right in a way. New york citys School System really is racist and hes the reason why. We will have more on his reignk. Of terror later this week. Its a fascinating story that hasnt been covered much. It should be and of course, as we said, we will. In his rallies across the country, the president declares very frequently that america and socialism are completely incompatible. We are alarmed by the new calls to adopt socialism in our country. Tonight, we renew our resolve that america will never be a socialist country. Tucker america will never be a socialist country says the president. Its hardne to imagine this a socialist country, but if youre having trouble imagining it, maybe because your old. The number of americans who think we should bring some socialism into our system is growing and they are mostly young people. Millennials are entering adulthood with more debt, worst Career Prospects and far less hope that they will be able to own their own homes or start their families, get married even. Thanks to that, many of them are giving up on americas Economic System entirely. A new gallup poll finds that 43 of all American Adults that , some form of socialism would be a good thing for this country. Among those aged 1834, 57 support7 socialism. A shocking number. Victor davis hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and he joins us tonight. Thanks very much for coming on. H if you hear those numbers, and this is not the only bowl to reach this conclusion, and whats your reaction . A couple of things. I think theres a lot of ignorance t of socialism. I think our Public School system, the universities, our popular culture, a sort of glorified as a fuzzy robin hood like taking from people who really didnt build that a and giving it to more deserving victims. They never tell you that socialism is more than just denmark or sweden, that ultimately ends up like venezuela and cuba and because its contrary to human nature it requires a degree of coercion. Its pretty scary. Three great murderers of the 20th century, hitler, stalin and mao all have the word socialist in their descriptions of their government. Also, i think we had ten years in 200717 as you alluded to a flat economic growth. In this new generation piled up a trillion and a half dollars in student debt. They prolong for adolescents. It was a life of julia or pajama boy culture they did not have children. They did not marry, they did not buy homes. Those are all the traditional stimuli that make somebody take the attention off themselves and ontoto somebody else, conservate stimuli. Finally, i i will be frank with reviewers, i think the Republican Party did a very poor job of explaining they are the traditional stewards of market capitalism of explaining why market capitalism creates wealth and makes all of our lives better, because they embraced a couple of position. Open borders as your first segment showed, drove down the wages of working americans. And overtaxed social services. An impoverished them and they redefined freetrade as unfair trade. So when the entire midwest was hollowed out, it was almost a callous message of gold learn coding or go to the fracking fields for china is getting us cheap stuff that we can afford event if we dont have good wags or it will make us leaner and meaner and more competitive or is unsustainable for china, but there was never any empathy. There was never any empathy, compassion to say look, freemarket capitalism is the only system that works, but we have to have protections in place to protect the working class and young people, and we didnt do that as republicans and conservatives, so we are at fault too. Tucker so when you get phone numbers like these, 57 of young people say they want something, doesnt that suggest that over time in a democracy, youre going to get the thing that people want . Are you worried about that . Five years ago Bernie Sanders was a joke. And now hes a serious contender for presidency. So that proves your point. And thats what happened. We are discussing a wealth tax right now. At least the democrats are. That has been rejected throughout europe as something that destroys wealth and initiative, and why would we consider . Whole premise of the Green New Deal is socialism, and yet we have mainstream candidates that embrace it not because they believe in it, but because, as you say, i think theres poll data that suggest support, especially among young people. But its sad because history suggests every time you go down this trajectory and you think youre going to get something for free, humanitarian, or virtue signal, somebody decides that they have to use coercion and authoritarianism to stop people like you when i from suggesting it doesnt work, and we dont want to be a part of it. And thats in our future, we are stupid to go down that pathway. Tucker we seem to have given up on the idea of unlimited free speech. Thats a bad sign. Professor, thanks very much. Good to see h you tonight. Thank you for having me. Tucker we live in an age where feminism appears to be everywhere. Its interesting in light of that that a new survey finds the happiest women in america are married, religious, conservative, and traditional. How does that happen . We will tell you after the break. Look into my eyes you will see what you mean to me dont tell me its not worth trying for you know its true everything i do i do it for you finding balance with every dance move. . The sound of the ukulele, the softness. Whats my passion . Hearing stories helps me tell them better. Discovering whats yet to come. Being creative. My sons nonverbal. But when he is ready to talk, i need to be able to hear him. It takes good hearing to enjoy a full life. To think. To stay vital. Yeah, id like to keep my passions. Hear well. Stay vital. Kiai hearing loss is linked to increased risk of dementia, depression, falls and isolation. Stay engaged and keep doing what you love. 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New york times readers were enraged to hear about this. They unleashed a torrent of bitterness, mostly on twitter. In so doing they bolster the reports findings of course. They are not aware of that, they live in an irony free world. Tammy bruce is a great host and president of independent womens voice. She joins us tonight. Two questions, one, were you surprised by this, and two, why would this make people angry . Happiness is a subjective thing, right . We all have a different spark perspective, different life experience. And i dont like organized woman of but im a faith and that gives me it helps me i get a perspective separate and beyond myself. Which inevitably one we go beyond ourselves, we end up being a little bit happier in life. So it makes sense to me and thats a wonderful m thing. But im not surprised because really, even when i was on the left and what weef see now is liberalism is a religion. Liberalism is a religion that of course it relies on being unhappy and bitter and miserable and jealous. And it makes you unhappy and envious of other people who may be just dont believe the way you do, but then of course you are a blasphemer. And this is what the left has a problem with. If you do not agree with their line, or their narrative of whats important, it will be shunned, you will be punished, and those of the things that they complain of other people, right . And they dont see it. If they dont realize that their own misery and anger at people being happy, whether its because of their faith or not, who knows, maybe its just that they are comfortable enough with themselves to feel comfortable with god and an entity beyond themselves. They dont know, but the rage that we saw confirms the fact that the left itself is a religion that really has no tolerance for anyone else. Tucker but a religion that feeds on the rage and makes people unhappy, whats the appeal of that religion . It sounds like the dumbest religion ever invented. This is the problem with to the left has attracted. And i come from the left and i know why i was attracted to it. I grew i up in a difficult scenario, grew up somewhat poor. My mother was not exactly necessarily meant for motherhood to someom degree. And it was a difficult childhood. And you grow up with an expectation that things aret not good and that you must fight for yourself and that theres victimhood. And then, that becomes of course you getva elevated based on your victimhood and that becomes the thing to strive for in a way. And then there are saviors and other people are going to save you. It appeals to some degree a damaged and then what we should do in life, and for me, it was therapy, is be able to recognize that damage and move beyond it. Be able to transcend that with the help of the community in your extended family with whatever the dynamic is, but the left now and left his leadership preys on people who have been injured, and they rely on that damage to move people forward. Cults do that as well. And so youre looking at kind of difficulty behavior and its disappointing and its sad but of course i think its quite dumb and quite telling with the state of certainly leftist Politics Today in the Democratic Party inem particular. Tucker why did they care how other people live . Im always struck by this. I dont think if you were to pull people in the most right wing county in alabama on brooklyn, they dont care what people in brooklyn are doing. People in brooklyn deeply care that somewhere in alabama somebody disagrees with them. Why did they feel the need to control other people like that . If you got people as an example who are happy, its a reminder that there are other ways to live. Its a reminder to other people that you can make different choices, that you can actually look at other ways of living your life. That there are more ways to live and more ways to be and thats a threat. You cant have people thinking wait a minute, there are other options for me to live. If theres other ways for me to find a way out of what my situation is or a way to find happiness or to remind people that happiness is possible. And that something beyond ourselves can actually enhance and illuminate your life and remind you of the glory of life and to be grateful for it and the difference between, lets say the middle ages, and the modern age. And the fact that happiness is a choice. And that we can choose to look at things in a certain way and that of course is a threat to a side of politics that relies on fear and suspicion, because its easier to organize you when youre afraid. Tucker is a really good point. To make great to see you. Thank you, i appreciate it. Tucker thank you. In the middle of an abortion rally today laura mcquade, who runs planned parenthood, made a remarkable claim, restrictions on abortions she said are not just an attack on women, but an attack on anyone can or might get pregnant. Including transgender men and gender nonconforming people. Got that . Laura mcquade, who runs planned parenthood says that men can get pregnant. How does that work . Nbc, a former News Organization ran a piece over the weekend making exactly the same claim. A man delivered a baby. Keep in mind that no man in Human History has ever done tha that. Seems like a big story. It seems like all of a sudden its happening everywhere. And delivering babies. What has happened mack has biology been reordered . No. In fact, its still true, it will always be true, that only women can bear children. What has changed is that the left has decided to impose its fantasy life on the rest of the country. To do that it must get the rest of us to lie about science. Amazingly, most of our leaders appear happy to do that to go along with it. We are not going to go along with that. Not because we begrudge other people their fantasies, but because reality is worth defending. Around the world, millions of christians live in fear of. Many of them are killed by Government Allied with the United States. How did that happen . We will investigate whats happening to christians in the middle east after the break. Tucker the American Invasion of iraq was sold to america as a chance to bring democracy, freedom, and pluralism to the middle east. Instead, for iraqs ancient Christian Community, which was large and thriving, it brought death and persecution. Today Iraqs Christian community is a tiny fraction of what it was in 2003. Nobody ever says that, but its true. What happened in iraq is now happening in countries across the region and around the world. A new report warns that in many places, treatment of christians is approaching the level of. The president of the Iraqi Christian Relief Council and senior fellow of the felis project joins us tonight. Thank you very much for coming on tonight. Thank you. Tucker give us a sense, because its one of those subjects that nobody in this country covers, as you know, of how the Christian Community in iraq is doing 16 years after the invasion. During 2003 we were one and a half million. E today they have been reduced to barely 200,000 people. Many of them are suffering from trauma. Many have lost everything in terms of businesses, their homes, their churches have been destroyed. In many of them are losing hope because really their own community is unable to protect themselves. They are at the mercy of either the Kurdish Regional government for the iraqi government, and we know, and you know, iranian influence nowlu is skyrocketing throughout which is extremely worrisome. Tucker so of the many figures in the United States who pushed that war havent said anything that ive seen about basically the death of the entire Christian Community in iraq. And american churches have also remarkably said virtually nothing about it. Why is that do you think . We are trying to be politically correct. We are not being bold to stand in the face of this and frankly what we have been going through since youve seen since 2003 and four is nothing new. Our community and the middle east, we christians have faced this for over 14, 1500 years and i believe, what has pushed us more, at least a lot of it more the world is talking about this is because of the savagery of isis was put on display through social media,a, social media has really become a dangerous medium for radicals who want to use it. Tucker yeah. It would be nice though if bill kristol or max boot or john bolton for that matter would apologize. So youre originally in iraq and he brought back photographs that illustrate the condition of christians and we are going to put some on the screen. What are we looking at now . Well, were looking at at the church that wass w blown up in st. George. We are looking at a series of the businesses that have been destroyed. Homes that have been completely destroyed. Schools are destroyed. So the community has been really the fiber of the community is destroyed. Out of one and a half million that are barely 200,000 left today, really is not just about spillingoc blood, it is really destroying our community, our history. History is thousands of years old before christianity. And today we are really left to fend for ourselves. Very little help is starting to come from the u. S. In the world is, frankly, has turned a blind eye. If the church as well as other governments. Which is really sad to see. Tucker its shocking. Finally, i have to ask about syria. The assad family, whatever you think of the assad family presided over a country in which christians had space to worship killed. Not whats the situation now for christians in the country . In just a few years ago, out of 1. 7 million we are down the christians in syria are down to 450,000. There are really really the syrian community, some are proassad, somewhere against the side. Basically the christians in the middle east are looking to see how they can rebuild their lives, how they can live in peace. Because whats happened. Persecution really looks different in different parts of the world. Some places, social media is used to provoke radical islamists. In other places, the country is exporting terrorism like iran, so i think our government really needs to step up, be bold, and take the right measures. And we as American People should not put someone who is an antisemitic with antisemitic rhetoric in congress because remember, its first saturday people, then its sundayun peop. Tucker christians in the middle east should be a concern. Those are our allies in the middle east and they could be concerned so my concern. Indeed. Tucker thank you very much for the work youre doing. Thank you. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Tucker vastly more powerful divide g networks are now being built across the country. Cr they will make your phone faster, but is it safe . Thats next. Ome in over 20 flavors right chicken, salmon, or tuna like my favorite just tear, eat. Mmm and go starkist tuna, chicken, and salmon creations. Bravo tucker across america, Tech Companies are rapidly Building Infrastructure for 5g, that the next generation of mobile phone technology. 5g networks will be far faster and far more powerful than our current set up. So far most of the debate over 5g is centered on china and whether its staterun countries have too much influence in the strategically important field theres another even more basic question that has yet to be answered, are 5g Networks Safe physically, medically safe . Theres some debate about that. Dr. Marc siegel is a foxs medical contributor if you joins us tonight for anor answer. Doctor, are 5g Networks Safe . To another answer to that . As far as we know, yes, but we dont know the longterm risks. Coming to a streetlamp near you, 300,000 of them are going to sprout up in the t United States and for luminary studies from National Toxicology program looking at 2g and 3g look like it cann possibly cause heart tumors and brain tumors in rats. Not people, mind you, rats, but change cells in the brain and cause ringing in ears, so we dont know the longterm health risk and im not willing to take that off thehe table, especially since 5g is closer to you, because its faster and its higherig definition, but it doesnt travel as far. I need to see longerterm studies on this. Tucker but before those studies are available, where Building Infrastructure and doing it anyway . Typically, yes. I also want to point out as you said at the beginning, there is a trade war going on here between the russians and the chinese and us. The russian team is trying to scare her so ire want to know hw to say there are Definite Health risks, and to not only that, i want to tell you medically this is a huge amount because 5g has very high definition, w which means youre probably going to be able to operate robotically. Thats right, robotically, from other places in the world, finally. Remotely, robotically, telemedicine. So theres a lot of physic domestic advances, we got to study it and we should have been studying it already in the latest studies in rats make me want to see more and more in humans at the same time. So i dont want to lose this trade work, but i want more medical b studies. Tucker so the concern would be radiation coming from the antennas on straight polls . Or would it be from our phone . Wherewith the risk be if there is a risk . Thats a great question and i think in this case we are going to be talkingngng more about the transmitters, because remember, the phones, we already have that problem. I dont thinknk the increased radiation from 5g in the phone itself is what bothers me, because actually 5g, it doesnt penetrate as much as 3g and 2g, but the towers are going to be much closer to you and theyre going tora be transmitting all y and night. So i want them study. That hasnt been studied and theres going to be a lot of them sprouting up. Thats where the risk is. And im not talking but cancer necessarily. Im talking about berliner changes to cells in the brain. Not to mention what we talked about previously on the show, which is more and more Technology Means more and more teens not talking to each other which means more and more depression and anxiety. Without that problem wass also. So we need to study this and we need to study it fast. Tucker dr. Marc siegel, thank you for that. Thanks. Tucker Technology Gets more sophisticated every year and it dominates our lives. Increasingly buried at the same time though, technology seems to be eroding our society and our happiness. Would it be possible to adjust technology so that it improves our lives in our society . Rather than degrades it . Thats the question addressed in her studied, director and cofounder for the center for Humane Technology and joins usmi tonight. Thanks very much for coming on. Thanks for having me. Tucker so what wouldt it mean to take control of technology to make it improve our lives rather than destroy our lives . And not downgrade and ruin our society. So the problem that we are trying to name is that we dont a name for this connected system of effects. O so shortening of attention spans, addiction, polarization, outrage of politics, called out pop culture. Teen isolation, mental health. These are all connected issues, because theres only so much human attention out there, righ right . It takes nine months to grow new human attention so its this finite race for a finite resource in the company sort of have to get more and more aggressive to get that attention out. So that means short, simple phrases was better than long complicated nuanced things. It means that short words of moral outrage for every word of moral outrage you add to t a twt it increases your retweet rates by 17 . So if you say its abominable, its a disgrace, you get more and more attention, but its filling up more and more of the channel, so our whole societyr feels like its going crazy all at once. And this is happening with facebook, with youtube, with team mental health. Its not enough to just get peoples attention, we have to get thehe Tech Industry has o get people addicted to getting attention from other people so this is what has created influence or cultures and i have teenage girls who have to have moree followers and likes and you have to have the beautification filters. 55 of plastic surgeons said last year in a survey that they thought at least one patient who was a teen girl who wanted to look like theyre snapped at beautification filter to get plastic surgery, so this is actually a connected system of harms that we think of almost like the Climate Change of culture. Frank luntz actually calls at that. We call it human downgrading, which is that while we are extracting attention from people, where crawling on the brainstem to get the attention to upgrade the machines, if downgrading people. Downgrading attention spans, downgrading civility, downgrading decency. And theres a better way to do it, thats why we are trying to catalyze this transition. We are a group of former Technology Insiders f used to be the people who know how these products work and are designed, and we know we need to change the incentives. Tucker why are you one of such a small group of people even imagining a world where we could have control of technology and not the other way around . Why the rest of us so passive in the face of what we all recognize is happening . I think everyone recognizes this is happening. I think everyone feels it. Its harder and harder to read a book. Its harder to have a civil conversation. Its hard to feel good about where we areow spending our time at how much we are looking at our phones, but i think what we need is language. We need to have language for whats happening and i think when you have w phrases like the race to the bottom of the brainstem to get attention out of people, it helps people see that theres a problem and what weve seen is that by giving language to something with actually gotten advocates inside the companies to change their behavior. Lester Mark Zuckerberg adopted time well spent, which is our phrase for the mission of the company. Applee and google launched the screen time management features but these are tiny little baby steps for what really needs to happen and want to say that apple actually is the couple from a company thats almost like the government of the attention of economy. If they wanted to, their Business Model is not maximizing how much are hooked to your phone. They just have to get you to buy it every two years and they could change the design to be more like a gps thatss just taking you out into the world to the next life experience. If you think about it like the point of a gps isnt too addicted to the gps, you sit there fiddling with it and get sucked into it for as long as possible or taking a summer you didnt want to go. Its a tool. And the thing is, we got off the wrong road on this one. Technology should be about thatl can actually be a gps for our lives. It can help us have when we are isolated, it can help us make the easiest choice on lifes menu be to text those closest friends of ours and make that easy to set that up as opposed to the easiest wayss to make is to keep scrolling infinitely, mindlessly. So they just have to flip the menu around and thats kind of what were hoping to catalyze by raising awareness, how can we change this around . Tucker interesting. Very quick, is apple open to this . That seems like one of the fastest ways to make a huge difference. Yeah. Ce i think if people put more pressure on apple, they could really change this in a way you cant ask facebook or youtube, whose Business Model is to maximize the watch time to stop doing that. Thats h their stock price is directly hooked to that, but honestly i think with the case of youtube we might have to ask them to complete with turnoff recommendations when you understand what its doing. You wonder how you get its tilting the whole Playing Field and radicalizing directions. Thats another conversation but apple really apple again is the one Company WhoseBusiness Model could be just about helping t people protect their sovereignty. Checked their minds, protect their free will. Tucker thats the most hopeful thing ive heard in a long time from the tech world. Thanks a lot for joining us tonight. Thanks for having me. Tucker we are out of time. We will be back tomorrow, 8 00 p. M. , the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. A lot of bad things going on in ome world. The good news is its a pretty interesting moment. Sean hannity from new york right sean welcome to hannity. We begin tonight, the walls are caving in around the deep state. Tonight, we can absolutely, positively report a pivotal document release is only days away. Were talking about transcripts, specific transcripts from the fbi top surveillance of the trump campaign, George Papadopoulos and George Carter at the height of the 2016 election. Papadopoulos will be here in a moment to preview this major development. He used exculpatory language, and we have the tapes and transcripts. And according to t