I think spying on a Political Campaign is a big deal. It is a big deal. You are not suggesting that spying occurred . D . I dont well, i think that there was that spying did occur. Yes, i think that spying did occur. Im not suggesting that it wasd not adequately predicated, but i need to explore that. Tucker there is no disputing the points that he made. Spying on a president ial campaign is a big deal especially when it was rivaled by an administration. Imagine if a year from now the Trump Administration could lead surveillance of officials in the Kamala Harris campaign. Imagine if it caught, trump pointed to Opposition Research generated by the Republican National committee asju justification for that surveillance. How would we react . Like it was a major draw dropping scandal, andd this tht show would agree with that, we would not agree with that. Law enforcement should never be used as a partisan political tool, no matter who it benefits. But the media does not feel that way about obama. They refuse to admit that there was spying, Jennifer Rubin in the Washington Post attacked the attorney general for bringing up the topic at all. She called barr president trumps toady. Cnn assured its viewers that there was little evidence that spying occurred, but that is a live here there is plenty ofen evidence that spying occurred, and we have had it for month. In 2016 and 2017, they wiretapped paul manafort, the former01 chairman. Carter page was spied on extensively by the u. S. Government even though it was obvious from the very first day that he was not b a russian sp. Last year we learned that the fbi used an informant to feud information inside the trump campaign. This is all spying. There is no other word for it. When trump complained about being spied on, democrats and their employees in the media called him a nutcase and a liar. There is no evidence to support any allegation that the fbi or any Intelligence Agency placed a spy in the trump campaign. These baseless claims of spies. The socalled spy issue. First of all, there is absolutely no evidence that there was a spy. So it is really a fake issue. The phony baloney story about a spy in the campaign. To call it a Conspiracy Theory is to give it too much credit. Just fake facts. You see the intelligence and your own party is saying that there is just know there there. Im wondering what it will take for you to say he is full of it. Tucker he lied, he is crazy, a lot of republican said that too, by the way. We should remember their names. As it turns out, there was in fact a conspiracy to hide the truth. But trump was not leaving that conspiracy, jim clapper was. Was the fbi spying on Trumps Campaign . No, they were not. They were spying on a term that i do noter like it, but what te russians were doing, trying to understand where the russians infiltrating trying to gain access and leverage and influence. Why does he not like that . He should be happy about that. He should be. Tucker he should be, you got that . The Obama Administration was not spying, they were watching him without his knowledge could on behalf of the opposing party in the closing months of a bitter president ial campaign. No big deal. Trump should be grateful for that. The obama people cared enough to surveilled his staff. They are patriotic that way, they are bighearted people. Come on, there has to be a limit to how much lying a country can take from their leaders before things fall apart. And we have reached our limit. Russian collusion did not happen. Domestic spying during a president ial campaign did happen, and we have a right to know who participated in it. Who authorized it. And what their motivesav were. We have a right to know that immediately, without redaction. This country does not belong to retired Obama Staffers and intel agency heads and mindless cnn contributors, as they Say Something that you do not understand. No. It is our country. This is a democracy. We ought to act like it is a democracy. Y mark morgan, former assistant director of the fbi, he joins us tonight. Thank you very much for coming on. The attorney general made two points, one it did happen, and two it is a big deal. Lets take the second one first. You worked in government and your whole life, is it a big deal that one administration with spy on the president ial campaign of another party . That is an absolute understatement, the Law Enforcement committee, specifically the fbi we follow attorney general guidelines, this is called a sensitive investigative matter. Youre talking about looking into the president ial campaign. I cannot think of something that has a more balanced interest that goes right to the heart of a sin that you can thwart the will of the people by impacting an election or trying to overturn a president who was elected. So this is absolutely huge. W tucker if this can be for you, and i want to play devils advocate a little bit. You are the Obama Administration and you receive a claim that the russians havea penetrated the campaign where trying to undermined our democracy. You would be very nervous about being caught spying on another campaign, of course, isnt the person you would do would go to candidate and say that this could be happening and we will look at people in your campaign . Absolutely, not only go to the campaign, but the dnc, there are several elements, a question as well and i want to know the answer why that was not done. The attorney general said Something Else in his testimony that the American People really need to understand. That is the predication. This is a big deal that they did this. It is important to evaluate the predication. It should have been at such a high bar to take on an investigation against aa Political Campaign like this. A i want to know too, the validity of that predication. Tucker the only reason, unless there is something that i cannot think of, the only reason that you would not tell trump that you believed an unpaid volunteer, carter page, was being used by the russians, the only reason you would not tell them that is because you will believe that he himself is a russian agent, they could not have caught that, right . I think so. And i look at this and i start to impact what i saw was a core group of seniors in the fbi that were really the victim of implicit bias against a president. And that was driven with the prism of what they looked at that. Instead of doing what you said, they went the other direction. Tucker it seems so reckless and crazy and destructive to mean, i do not understand. What i do understand is schilling for a Political Party even as you pretend to be a journalist. Which is happening at cnn. You just saw on the screen. How can you say that spying is not spying . How could you say that . If you are surveilling people, if youre listening to their emails, reading their electronic communication, how is that not spying . That is absolutely right, and then keep on saying with the predication that is used, they are laying down thehe gauntlets of what did or did not happen. I find that incredulous as well, but we know the fisa, at the heart of the fisa, we mighh not like the term spy. But the heart of fisa, thats what it is. In laymans terms, that is absolutely what that is. Tucker is there some reason that we have not seen the rationalization from fisa . From a Law Enforcement perspective, i am wary about giving that information. Im protective of sources and methods, but there are sometimes the Public Interest outweigh some of that, to a degree. [laughs] so i hope that the president will take a hard look and release as much as he can. The American People need to know this. Again, attorney general moore said this. It goes to one of the hearts of his missions, to prove that to, the highest parts of government are not abusing their authority. I think you can make a legitimate case that that happened. Tucker if we find out that the trump campaign, and there is a trump reelect campaign, they have an office, i think. That they are encouraging the fbi to spy on one of the democratic president ial contenders and the Trump Justice Department authorizes that spying, i just want to be on the record i would never defend Something Like that. I think that would be appalling. Would anyone else defend it . I may tucker [laughs] if the predication was there. But it has never been done in american history. The bar for that, tucker, is so unbelievably high. H tucker you have cory booker speaking russian, and taking the microfilm at a public park in exchange for cash. Mark morgan, great to see you. Not accusing booker of that. Matt gaetz represents the state of florida in the United States congress, and we are happy to have him today. Thank you so much for coming on. It is clear in order to restoro public faith in the most powerful institutions ofof government we have to know what happened here. Why dont we . We have not had the directoi of National Intelligence layout for us what was in the transcripts taken by the House Intelligence Committee where they interviewed clapper, where they interviewed comey and mccabe and brennan, and we ought to have that information. Hes been sitting on it for four months, and we need to get it out. Tucker i did not know that. Over 50 transcripts have been voted out of the House Intelligence Committee to be declassified so that we can get to the bottom of where the lies existed and how this terrible investigation occurred. Tucker so why has he not made them public . Four months we have been waiting, but there is a bigger problem, we have to rely on the intelligence committee. And the leadership of that committee, because every member of congress does not see every piece of intelligence. I have filed legislation today, that adam schiff needs to be removed from the intelligence committee, because a how are the rest of us supposed to be able to rely on a man who you just showed lied to the American People when he said that there was not spying, or when he lied and said that there was evidence of collusion or clear evidence of collusion . If adam schiff is able to review covert operations and intelligence, and we have to rely on his representation, the whole system is broken. It would be like putting Lori Loughlin in charge of the college board. It would be like putting Jussie Smollett in charge ofof the fbi. We have got to remove adam schiff from the intelligence committee. Tucker i have never seen a member of congress with lower integrity than adam schiff, and it is shocking that he shares the committee. Is there any hope on peeling him from that . Nancy pelosi and the other democrats have to feel the pressure. The constituents have to ask them, how they will make decisions in the best interest of the country and the district if it is adam schiff that you are listening to you to get characterizations and representations on the quality of the intelligence and whether or not it should justify congressional action . Tucker i want to explain the name of the act, the pencil act. For the favorite pencil, tucker. Tucker that is exactly right. You stride the halls of congress, is there any democrat that behind the scenes, and you do not have to reveal names, agrees with you . A committee this sensitive should not be chaired by adam schiff . There are democrats in congress who feel betrayed. Because like the rest of the country they were told that there was actual evidence of collusion. That this would happen. And a lot of those democrats went out on a limb in the campaign and promise their voters that this evidence would be turned up. Now we know that the whole deal was fake. It was a lie. And i think that a lot of the narrative has been a coverup for the fact that under the Obama Administration, our Intelligence Community got so politicized at the upper levels that they allowed political Opposition Research to justify something that should never happen in this country. You aree right. It should never happen from either side. But the only way we can get to the solution set is if we fully reform the process thatdg allos secret courts to abridge our rights. Tucker that is something that was signed up for without thinking through it after 9 11, correct . Yes, but i think we will rethink it. The American People want to know how we got here and they want to make sure that we are never here again. Tucker how can you have a secret court in a democracy . Ket you do not know what the judges believe, and the opinions are never made publicc so even 20 years later you are not able to ascertain what the doctrine was that was getting the most powerful tools in t or government to be turned against our citizens in the absence of the transparency that democracy requires. Tucker such a smart and true and good point, i hope that you keep making them. Thank you very much. Thank you. Tucker the Democratic Party has a newue label for anybody they disagree with White Nationalist what does that mean exactly and what is the agenda behind saying it . And most important, what is the effect on the contrary when they repeat that again and again and again . Does it make us a better place or doesnt make us hate each other . That is next. Tucker the word racist has long been the most damning slur in american life, and for good reason. Its hard to think of anything crueler or more unfair than discriminating against someone because of the color of their skin, you do not control your skin color. Nobody likes racist, nobody wants to be called a racist,in the left knows that, so they use the word as a club to beat their opponents into submission and have their way. They have done this so often and for so many years that over time with the word racist has lost a lot of power. It is dulled from overuse, the left needs a new attack line, and make you shut up and obey. They have found one, watch georgia politician stacy abrams deployed against white house advisor Stephen Miller. What about the man who is leading us for the white house, Stephen Miller . He is spearheading the agenda, and ilhan omar referred to him as a White Nationalist . Do you agree with her . I believe that what we have seen from Stephen Miller is a just evidence of white nationalism. Tucker white nationalism, lets be literal for a moment, what is that . Abrams did not say, she does not have to say. It hits you inat the gut, not e head. It evokes images from a night mare, mass killings, deportation trains, it is terrifying. You would rather be called a cannibal than a White Nationalist. That is the point. Say it. Why they we have a White Nationalist president who is a threat to american democracy. It is the way of White Nationalist european splinter, hard right crazy town parties. We have not heard it in our politics in a long time. It will be Stephen Miller, and his White Nationalist tendencies are really obvious, you can not dress that up. It is not a stretch for a lot of americans whether the president is considering himself a White Nationalist. Tucker again, you will notice that none of these dumb people paused for even a second to explain tote you what a White Nationalist is. You probably still do not know, and honestly, neither do we. And thats because theyre so very few of them in this country. Probably about as many White Nationalist in america as there are russian spies. You can live your entire life here without running into a White Nationalist. An no matter what they tell you, this is a remarkably kind and decent country. Whats telling is that according to the left, only certain people qualify for the title of White Nationalist. You heard Stephen Miller denounced as one for his support of the temporary family separation at the u. S. Border. T but it turns out the obamaem administration did essentially the very same thing to immigrant families, split them up. Are they White Nationalists, too . Watch them explain. President obama separated children from adults for their protection. It was if there was a risk of trafficking or other harm that might have been encouraged. Tucker just to recap, those of you keeping track at home, when obama did it, it was for their protection. When trump does it, it is white nationalism. How does this work exactly . Candace owens unraveled the mystery yesterday and in testimony before congress, watch. There is not a single adult today that in good conscious would make the argument that america is a more racist or White Nationalist society than it was when my grandfather was growing up. But we are hearing these terms sent around and what they want to say is that brown people need to be scared, which is the narrative that we hear every four years white ahead of a president ial election. Tucker ah ha, that is the answer. It is election season. The left has nothing to sell. Nothing that will make your life better, so they whip up race hatred and fear. Scared people vote. Tell them that the other side wants to put them in camps or murder them, and they will show up at the polls, however reluctantly, they have been doing this for a long time for generations, they are explicit than they ever have been, but what is the cost for campaigning like this . Democracy succeeds when it is built on the belief that we all are in this together. And testing the strength between two groups that hate each other, they fall apart. Attacking people for their race is exactly how you destroy a country. That is what democrats are doing. They know that they are doing it, it is obvious. They just dont care. Victor david hanson is a senio fellow at the Hoover Institution and he joins us. Thank you for coming on. I cannot help but wonder overow time what the effect on the population of the country, of all people, of all colors. And let me state sincerely, almost all of them are good people. It is america, but what is the effect on them when they hear this every day . How does it make them feel about their neighbors . About the country itself . About our future as a country . I think that they have almost tuned it out now, tucker. We have jumped the proverbial shark, because in the last tens days, africanamerican activists, candace owens, steve miller, they have all been called either white supremacist or White Nationalist, and when everybody is a White Nationalist, nobody is. Why is this happening . . That is what is so befuddling, i think that the reason is it is part of in part it is the demonization of trump supporters, because after the 25th amendment, and the muellet investigation, stormy, michael cohen, there is always some magic bullet that is going to take trump out, and this is the White Nationalist conspiracy, and it does not exist. I think that there is also fear, tucker. Because trumps economic agenda has really achieved record low hispanic and africanamerican unemployment. And when he waves in about the anticatholic bias of the Kamala Harris or the plague of abortion on minority communities or an open borders effect on driving down wages, that appeals to minority borders, may be more than 20 of black voters are 40 of hispanic voters. And under the current democratic calculus, they have so alienated the White Working Class with slurs that we have heard, but the deplorable scum of the cleaners, and what joe biden called the drapes of society, they cannot afforded o lose any of the minority block voting, or they are in real trouble. And finally, it is very sad, because the engines that are driving this new democratic socialist identity politics party, the omars, the ocasiocortezs, the al sharptons, the linda sarsours, they do not have any realm of reference outside of identity politics. It is all day long, 24 7, race, religion, gender. When they venture out of the prism, they talk about the internal Combustion Engine or the history of 9 11 or the geography of the middle east, they know nothing. We want some intervention. And we look to nancy pelosi or chuck schumer, but they are terrified that these pied pipers represent 50 of their own party. We look for a senior statesman, bob carey was heroic and warning about this extremism. Ra but look at barack obama. He was edgy in 2008, i guess. And now he would be considered passe. I when he weighed in, it was very timid about circular firingn, squad or something. But almost he has become a tragic comic figure, because he is really into a i did build that, and all the time to profit moment as he speaks his personal wealth, more power to them. But no leadership there that can say that you have to stop this, because you are destroying a once noble party. Tucker and a wonderful country too. Making people hate each other. Whip up race hatred. Thats what they are doing. They are whipping up race hatred. And its terrifying, i think. Professor, thank you very much. It is great to see you. Thank you for having me, tucker. Tucker every democrat running for president has come out for reparations for slavery. Cory booker, and leave it to cory booker the innovator, he is going one step further. Cory booker wants reparations for drug dealers. That is next. We also have new details about possible prison sentences for the actors involvedo in the College Cheating scandal. We will bring those to you after the break. We will bring those to you after the break. Tucker American Television viewers are finally safe from the creepy porn lawyer thanks to indictments in california and new york for extortion and tax fraud, among other things. But until today, american skies remain vulnerable. This morning, federal authorities seized creepy porn plane, a 5 million plane used to fly around on. Iowa and new hampshire, exposed to a creepy porn president ial run, calling off those plans. Almost 20 Democratic Candidates are running for president. At the moment, all competing to be the wokest of all, but every democrat backs the reparations now, how do you stand out . Cory booker has an idea, reparations for drug dealers. Do not talk about me about legalizing marijuana, unless you talk about expunging the records of the Million People who are suffering with not being able to find a job. Tucker booker does not just want drug convictions expunged, but monetary reparations and job training and Community Reinvestment for those impacted by the war on drugs, which means federal dollars to his politicaltr supporters. Nathan rubin, author of moving America Forward here to explain the idea. Just for a little bit of context, we are currently the right in the middle of the worst drug epidemic in the history of the United States, may be of the west, more people die of drug o. D. S then died of car crashes and the entirety of the vietnam war, in the middle of that cory booker wants to send tax dollars toshhe drug dealers, tell me why this make sense . I dont think that cory booker is talking about sending money to drug dealers, but he is talking about nonviolent drug possession charges, whether it is tucker no, he did not say that. He said people with marijuana charges. Possession. Tucker very few people with personal possession charges went to prison for marijuana in the last 20 years. Some did, but very few. Almost all were people who were accused of dealingea drugs. Intent to distribute. So these are drug dealers. Over the last year, over 600,000 people have been arrested and charged with marijuana possession. So those people are certainly feeling the effects of being arrested for marijuana possession, and when you look at the rate and usage of marijuana, blacks and whites use equally, but a black man is four times as likely to be arrested fornd marijuana possession. So the law, the enforcement of the policy is structurally discriminatory. What cory booker is saying is that we need to do a betterth b of reinvesting in these communities if we do decide to legalize marijuana. There is no denying that some of these communities have been negatively affected as a result of the war on drugs. Tucker have they been negatively affected by using drugs . Or only the fault of Law Enforcement . We cannot admit that now . Hold on, no. The war on drugs, im not defending the war on drugs. It is just that everyone is always a blaming of the system and Structural Racism and the police, but is taking drugs itself having a negative effect on your community . Or are we not allowed to admit that anymore . Un we have to say no problem at all. I think we should separate the use of Something Like marijuana from the other schedule one drugs like methamphetamines, heroin. Tucker you think that smoking weed every day makes you more successful, lets be real for a minute. No talking points no, youre giving the same talking points. I wantt you to finish answering my question, which is does using drugs hold your Community Back . Does it hold you back at all . It does hold the communities tucker does it or not . Tucker, let me answer the door question, please. What holds them back our children without parents who are arrested first selling marijuana, they are served at parents being at home, not being arrested for possession of marijuana. Tucker you know i agree with that completely, we do separate millions of families over time, American Families d with punitive legal system. So i agree with you on that, but im just trying to ask an adult question, because all of the blame goes to the system and the cops. If you do drugs, including marijuana, all the time, does thatll hold you back . Simple question. I would reply that a conservative principle is to have the freedom to do what you want in the comfort of your home. S tucker i dont even know what conservative principles are. Im not interested in that. Im interested in reality. I just want to acknowledge reality. Real life, politics aside. Conservative, liberal aside, if you are high all the time, does that hold you back . I guessh so. Tucker yeah, it does, it does big time. And we should say that in addition to all of the other things that we say. Being high all the time, being time is al the disaster. No one has the stones to say that. Nobody is saying that people are doing that. Hold on one second, tucker. What this conversation is failing to take into account is that marijuana has medicinal qualities. Over 33 states have some form of medicinal marijuana, tenn have fully legalized it. Tucker cocaine has medicinal quality is too. So does alcohol. Preventing Small Business owners from investing in their communities and losing out on tax revenue. Tucker degrade the population to make the government richer. But what is happening at the end of the day is that marijuana sales aree funding drug cartels in the black market. Colorado, for example,ay marijuana sold over the last year 1. 2 billion, 270 million tucker now we are wading into stuff that i know about but we are out of time, unfortunately. Rs of course. Tucker i gave you five chances to answer a simple question. And you did finally, nathan, thank you. Prosecutors say they want jail time for Felicity Huffman and other people in the College Admission scandal, what kind of life can parents expect while in prison . That is next. Scandal, what kind of tucker prosecutors are saying that they want jail time for actress Lori Loughlin and other parents accused of committing bribery and other forms of fraud to help their kids get into college but what sort of life could they expect if prosecutors have their way . Trace gallagher has the answer to that question, and he joins us tonight. Tucker, when Martha Stewart was convicted in 2004 of conspiracy, false statements, and obstruction, it was fitting the queen of domestic bliss was placed into camp cupcake. Where she spent her days picking flowers and nights doing yoga. After her release, she spent months confined to her 15 million bedford, new york, mansion. She described the home arrest as piteous. After reckless driving, paris hilton was sentenced to 45 days in jail. She served three days which led to accusations of special r treatment, and sure enough, a judge sent her back to serve an additional 20 days, not with the 2200 other prisoners, mind you, but in a 12bed special needs unit. We later learned that herut billionaire grandfather donated to thensheriff lee bacas campaign. In 2004 when Glen Campbell was sentenced in arizona to ten days for extreme dui and fleeing the scene of an accident, he did not serve a share in the infamous tent city. He stayed in the air conditioned jail where he could leave for 12 hours a day. So as for the College Admission scandal, it is unclear where Lori Loughlin might serve. If she serves. But because she is a nonviolent offender, experts say that she is likely looking at a Martha Stewart situation. Though there are no camp cupcakes in california. So for flower picking and yoga, she would have to serve out at state. Though there is a low level security prison with prisons with fences in the San Francisco bay area where patty hearst and heidi fleiss served their time. The three . Tucker flower picking and yoga. Trace gallagher, thank you. Well, if you have been stuck in an airport involuntarily, it criticism of the propaganda laden profiling by calling its critics state tv. That is projection. Jeff zucker thinks it is a good line, but the irony is that they are responsible for state tv, and years the affiliates called cnn turkish affiliate has openly flexed for the antiamerican Authority Government they are. Cnn has now been forced to respond to this. Im going to read you the statement in just a minute. It was elicited from a question by a turkish journalist, who asked them, and they said that this is the criticism that they are working for the government. We are aware of criticism from turkish media with the cnn turk election covered, it is a independent channel, but is part of the agreement and must adhere to the cnn standards. Turk, and they say that they are making every effort to provide a balanced coverage of turkish elections. Cnn turk is adhering to cnn standards . Nc that is not reassuring. We reached out to cnn and could not get a response, but we are glad to be joined tonight by ilhan tanir. You are a Turkish National who has been banned from turkey, indicted for your tweets. By the government of turkey. So that is the context of the story. When you watch cnn turk, what do you see . Well, i was just listening to the statement you just read, it is just funny. Cnn turk addressing the latest election coverage that we just finished march 31st. But one problem, the problem is that cnn turk, the way that they are reflecting turkish politics, it is basically a mock of the turkish government that has been going on for years. Ive been trying to reach out to the spokespeople of cnn for about 18 months, they have been stonewalling. And recently, a year ago, there was a new family with cnn turk with some other outlets. In that family is basically known for killing journalism. Their business is purchasing newspapers, and they are bringing this, they are firing journalists, and they became those newspapers as state propaganda. Now they are doing the same thing with cnn turk. Over a year ago, they purchased cnn turk and fire hundreds of journalist. Many respected journalists. Tucker im confused, cnn turk you say is a mouthpiece for the antiamerican authoritarian government of turkey which indictse journalists, including you, but cnn lends its brand to this channel . Why would they do that . Probably they are making a lot of money, other than that i dont know how any journalist affiliated with cnn can see cnn turk and just forget about it. It is killing journalism in turkey. Tucker if you could speak to jeff zucker who is the head of cnn in the United States, what would you say to him . Look, it is killing journalism, your turkish sister is killing journalism, they are covering walltowall, the turkish government propaganda, which is, since 2016, shut down about 200 media organizations, and the country turkey is still the country that jails the most journalists in the world. For the last 34 years. And your outlet in turkey is basically propagating for the government. So how can you let this go forever . Tucker in one sentence, does it surprise you to learn that jeff zucker, the man you were just addressing, won the freedom of the press award in the United States . You know, i did not see that, but i think what is happening in turkey, he should take a look into that. And he should apologize for what has been going on for thee last several years. And he should, as soon a he starts investigating, he can do something about it. Et it was at the turkish president palace a year ago. Tucker we reported that at the time. And i hope that jeff zucker will listen to your message as a journalist who has been indicted and change his ways. Ilhan tanir, thank you very much. Alexandria ocasiocortez says that if you do not support this agenda, you are a murderer. Thats next. That if you do not support her agenda, you get great deals on great gear at Bass Pro Shops and cabelas. Bring the kids for our free easter event with giveaways, crafts, an egg hunt, and a free picture with the easter bunny. Go online to learn more. Your adventure starts here tucker congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez says the government has to be given more power to fight globalsw warming, and if you disagree with that or even hesitate in agreeing with her immediately, then you are complicit in murderer. I think what we have laid out here is a very clear moral problem. Av and in terms of leadership, if we fail to act, or even if we delay in acting, we will have blood on our hands. Tucker with the children, everything is a clear moral problem. In recent tweets, meanwhile, alexandria ocasiocortez said that global warming, not open boarders, drives the crisis. Melissa francis one our favorites. Global warming is driving illegal immigration . You have to think about it, because it is perfect. Finally the Environmental Crisis is causing wars, it is causing bloodshed, it all started during the last administration. Started with secretary of state john kerry, the Obama Administration, in syria. And this was their theory. They thought that it would be fantastic, around and around, and a group of scientists, we have their names, from places like the school of critical socialal inquiry. And the center for earth system research, they dug deep, and they found that it was based on a six year drought in syria. Thats got and measure the rain. They found above average rainfall. I kid you not, they went out and they found a whole bunchut of rain. Alice under the conclusions they came up with. Unless new evidence emerges, the syrian case does not prove the multiplier effect, to the contrary, we conclude policymakers and commentators need to use far greater caution when drawing such linkages. S i abbreviated pair this is the best quote, tucker. I fear getting the syrian case right to come or at least correcting the flawed, dominant narrative, will negatively affect discussions of d Environmental Impact on the conflict in the policy sphere. Nool kidding, in other words, we got this right and we are super sad, because now you cant say that it is the environment that is causing these wars. Heres the punch line. I know. I thought you heard all the punch lines. Ha are there today, someone said to me, this is just one thing you found on the internet. N in fact, it has been corrected everywhere, even at harvard. They are teaching what is called Climate Change in the Syrian Civil War revisited. So this is what aoc is using as her basis for her argument, but surprisingly, she has not read up and found out that this theory that was just used a little while ago by john kerry and president obama, has been totally debunked. Tucker they really should apologize. Ive said things that are wrong and i feel bad about it. I i thought there were weapons of mass destruction in baghdad, there werent. Sorry. You should apologize if you are wrong, but they never will. In that case people wanted to see the evidence that you thought you had the evidence. Here there was a two page brief at the heart of it, and if you look at it, they had not done any science. Or looked at a water or stuff. I dont know. Apparently i know, so fun. Love seeing you, tucker. Tucker great to see you. You probably dont think of peter, the people for the ethical treatment of animals, and though Trump Administrations allies, but they had praise for the new 2020 budget coming out of the white house, because if they would cut funding for the National Institute of health. Ut why would peta want that . According to them wasting billions of taxpayer dollars on testing that names or kills animals while producing no benefits foror human beings in return. Kathy guillermo, Vice President at peta, happy to have her on to explain what she means. Thank you for coming on. Im so happy to be here. Tucker most people i think the tradeoff is worth it if it is between an animal being hurt or a child dying, but what you are saying is that there is a lot of research that produces no benefit at all,ar t is just cruelty and why does this continue . Yes, the choice really is our money is wasted or our money isnt. Our money is put towards good science, or our money is into. We know that 90 of studies on animals failed to lead to any treatment for human beings. It is a 90 failure rate, 95 of new medicines that test safe and effective in animals fail when they go to human clinical trail. And yet, our government, the national the National Institutes of health, spending 50 of its budget doling out 15 billion to universities across thehe county to do experiments on animals that arent helping human beings at all. Tucker that is grotesque. The idea of animals being hurt for no good reason is really upsetting. I think the most normal people why would we be doing that . Why would it continue . It is a boondoggle, the scam of the highest order in the United States, unfortunately. And universities love it because they do these experiments on animals. Animals are cheap and plentiful, easy to write papers about what happens to animals. They get hundreds of millions of dollars each. And they like to keep it all really secret. They dont want us to know. They kick us off of the facebook pages and deny us ads in student papers, they make us sue for the open records laws in the states coming and its a great way to make money. Its a lot easier than doing good science that might help people. Tucker youou would think that researchers, a normal person would look at what he is doing and say, i cannot keep doing this. It is awful. But they dont . You would think that. Hi think a normal person woul, but let me give you an example, i will never forget the 750,000 experiment at Oregon Health Science University where baby monkeys were taken from their mothers when they were born, and they try to scare them with things like mr. Potato head dolls. And this supposedly has something to do with a diet of their mothers. How about child abuse experiments on mice, where they electroshock mice, drop them in water . Nothing has come out of it. How about the sex and power in advertising experiment at duke university, where monkeys were kept deprived of fluids so they would work in exchange for a few drops of juice, and the idea was if the monkeys would prefer to look at logos like Dominos Pizza next to a dominant monkey, or a female monkey . Thato experiment had 18 million in public funding. Tucker no now youve made me actually mad. Duke should be ashamed ofe that. I hope you can colleges are now in a place where they are apologizing for things they have done that are wrong in the past. They should apologize fore tha. And i hope that you can wring an apology out of them. That is appalling. Kathy, thank you very much for coming on. Thank you. Tucker good to see you tonight. Not a group we always agree with, but when we agree, we will say so. Why wouldnt we . That is it for us tonight, we are out of time, 8 00 pm, back tomorrow night, the show that is a sworn and totally sincere enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. As we always encourage you to do, dvr it if you have not already. It is always in the script, i always read it dutifully, good night from washington, great news for you, ladies anday gentlemen, introducing, not for the first time, but like the first time sean hannity from new york city. Sean great news for some people, but not good news if you are in the media, a democrat, or a member of the deep state, how is that . Not going to be a good night for you tonight. Tucker sounds like a good me. Ht for. And literally, wrecke wrecking the fabric of our the boom rang ive been telling you about is now
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