Its a long list, but at the very top of that list is nbc news. Nbc had the story months ago. Their former anger, ronan farrow, conclusively exposed mos against weinstein by women who say he sexually harassed, groped, even raped them, but the number killed that investigation. Nbc news president Noah Oppenheim said the company had good reason for doing that, but that the company have good reason . Chris gallagher is taking very close look at this question and he joins us with an answer. Trace . Tucker, and be seen as has been on the record saying the reason he decided not to run the ronan farrow story on Harvey Weinstein is because he didnt have enough reporting to go on the air. Well, now, a number of outlets including the daily beast and Huffington Post are refuting that, saying that farrow began reporting back in january, and by july, he had interviewed at least eight weinstein accusers and it also secure the coveted new york police audiotape of weinstein admitting he groped a 22yearold italian model. Listen. Please, im sorry. Just come on in. Youre used to that . Come in. Den in august, a woman who accused weinstein of raped agreed to an oncamera interview as long as she was in so i do not identified. Saying it not only did nbc news and refused to provide a camera crew, they wouldve tried to stop interview altogether and tried to stop farrow from reporting on the strap together, so farrow paid for the chemical himself. Nbc says the opposite, saying, ronan wanted to keep forging ahead so we didnt want to state in his way, and he took it to the new yorker and did a ton more extraordinary work. But as the people inside and outside nbc reportedly claimed that they slow walk to the story and rented of the corporate chain. Not just news president andy lack but all the way up to universal ceo, something news employees call unprecedented. In fact, some told the huff post that weinsteins attorneys tried to kill the story and nbc news appeared to be synonymous. And it should be noted that last week when the New York Times first broke the story, both cbs and abc ran it during the evening newscast. Nbc did not come out saying weinstein was not a nationally recognized figure. The same excuse was used for pulling a weinstein skit from saturday night live. Tucker . Tucker thanks, trace. Lets be clear. Nbc is lying. News Division HeadNoah Oppenheim say they encouraged farrow to run the story. The opposite is true. Saying that he was given resources to report the story over many, many months. Maybe except for a camera crew. Oppenheimer says farrow story was not the story we were looking at what we made our judgment. I get another lie as farrow told Rachel Maddow, he finished the bulk of his reporting when he went to the the new yorker. That is why the legacy and accepted his peace in the first place . Mack. Why did you end up running the story for the the new yorker . You would have to ask nbc and nbc executives about the details. Im not going to talk about any stray they did or didnt run. It saying the story wasnt publishable, that it wasnt ready to go by the time he brought it to them. Obviously it was ready to go by the time you got it to the new yorker. I walked into the door at the new yorker with an explosively reportable piece that should have been public earlier and immediately, obviously, the new york recognize that, and it is not accurate to say it was not reportable. In fact, there are multiple determinations that it was reportable at nbc. Tucker we bet money that her employer didnt want Rachel Maddow to do that segment, but she did it anyway. Good for her. Why did a purported News Organization kill a blockbuster news story . Presumably we will find out at some point. This is a scandal and the truth has a way of emerging from those in the end. One possible explanation is to be 25. In the addition to being the head of nbc news, is a screenwriter with deep ties to the movie business and the Democratic Party establishment. Could it be that oppenheimer had a business relationship with the company . It is not a farfetched possibility as all, and yet as of today, oppenheim refused to say. Oppenheim ought to resign immediately, and if he doesnt, he ought to be fired immediately by nbcs parent company, comcast. News executives are not allowed to tell lies. They are not allowed to participate and cover ups. The act answer straightforward question straightforwardly. When they dont, you know they are corrupt, and that is exactly what nbc news is. For more on the Broader Media efforts to protect Harvey Weinstein the middle of all this, we are joined by a reporter with the hill newspaper. So the red flag for me and these are very, located stories and we dont all the answers. But we do know that nbc news, open Noah Oppenheim and Noah Oppenheims agent are refusing to answer questions. Asking if they had any relationship with Harvey Weinstein or his company. They wont answer that question. What is the possible range of explanations for refusing to answer a simple question like that . That is what bothers me about that, tucker, that the head of a News Organization is refusing to answer questions. He should go to, not the nbc news, obviously, dont keep it inhouse, but find some other publication, somebody dont compete with. Sit down and answer questions. Its exactly what you would ask a journalist with nbc news to do. You can break this down 100 different ways. Two ways that stick out to me, and trace brought up in his peace. 7. 5 hours after the story broke on thursday, the nbc nightly news, which is watched by 8 million people, did not cover it. Thats the new site. The entertainment side coming of seth meyers and jimmy fallon, didnt do any on Harvey Weinstein for five nights. Then you have saturday night live, as trace mentioned, there were jokes on weinstein, and then suddenly they didnt appear on air. Those four entities decided that it wasnt a story or the code red came down from somewhere and said, were not going to texas and thus they absently had to because it was blown wide open. That was point number one. Two, we talked about this many months ago. The access hollywood tape. Nbc property, access hollywood. And it just happened that this tape walked out the door, that they knew about for months, maybe longer, by the way, the content of it, ended up in a Washington Post reporters mailbox two nights before the second president ial debate. By all intents and purposes, that shouldve ended the election except the candidate was trump and his full foolproof to this sort of stuff, and obviously, he won. You look at those two simple explanations, right . Those scenarios. When compared, tucker, what we sow this week from nbc news and particularly yesterday where they had a bombshell report, that said the president wanted to include or increase, excuse me, our Nuclear Arsenal temple. And they had that in quotes, right . And then President Trump disputes that, but then secretary mattis says it is absolutely false. What was that story based on . Unnamed sources. We dont know where those horses came from. Would be some of his fathers, brothers, former roommate, we dont know. That was good enough to get to air. But ronan farrow, who had tapes, quit videotapes with actual accusers, thats not good enough for us. We dont want to get in your way. We dont want to get in your way . Go take it to the new yorker. Tackle all that and ask yourself, who do you believe . Tucker its remarkable. I dont think in my life i have ever taken the side of a politician over a new numeric News Organization. It pains me to do that. I think there lyras and debasing their own currency. The not the only Media Organization to be cast into this. But amazon, jeff bezos, seems to been sucked into the spyros mcallen. Do understand that . I read that on the way over here on the daily mail, you have a whole bunch of tweets from rose mccown, who was a big actress in the 90s, accusing bezos, the amazon owner, also by the way, the owner of the Washington Post, killing a series that she wanted to get on the air, and said also that she was raped as well. He read a couple of tweets and its hard to piece it together, but now what youre seeing here, tucker, this story has definitive breaks. It is almost now it is a week old and its going to get going and going because more journalists like the Huffington Post, like thee daily basis, like cnn, and more journalists are going to be exposed for protecting weinstein and then News Organizations. I think nbc was betting on, well, its the era of trump and this thing is going to pull over because the new cycle move so fast, and it is not going away. People are not going to let this go. Some people its a very high places, have a feeling, are going to be exposed to this far more than Harvey Weinstein. Tucker the revealing part was watching the entire ruling class mobilized behind him to defend him and the indefensible. Really interesting moment. Joe, thank you. Speak up thank you. Spoon for more developments in the story, which is moving quickly, we are joined by a senior editor. Thank you for coming on tonight. Thank you, tucker, for having me, as always. Tucker first things first, where is Harvey Weinstein . It. He is now going to a rehab center in arizona, but where harvey really is right now is in a crapload of trouble. If that nypd, scotland yard, and possibly, the l. A. P. D. Looking into possibly opening investigations into criminal charges. Tucker i dont think you understand, dominic, Harvey Weinstein is the victim here. What do know about the rose mcgowan allegations today . Here is books going on with this. We just had breaking news on this. This Sexual Harassment, obviously, big problem in hollywood, and it is now affecting amazon as well. They had just put the head of their tv division, right price, on leave for allegations of what has come out of Sexual Harassment that happened in 2015 with a top producer. That producer went public today. Price is now out or at least shifted aside temporarily. As for this rose mccowan situation, a, lets give full points to rose. She was one of the first people talking about the Harvey Weinstein situation when no one was listening to her in hollywood. Essentially what she is saying is, she had a project and develop with amazon which asked them and told them about the incident with weinstein and asked weinstein to not be, and i quote her bailed out. To effectively, it seems, killed her project. She is now calling fouled. Tucker have they responded . Has bezos office or amazon or the Washington Post, has there been any kind of response to her allegations . It not on this matter, tucker, at least not as far as i can tell having come on with the air with you right now. Again, like the weinstein case, this is something for every hour we are seeing something more. Lets go back to one thing very clearly. Less than a week after the New York Times unveiled the story, less than two days after the new yorker published their story, they are now 32 women, including ashley judd, rose mccowan, gwyneth paltrow, and many more who are saying that they were sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein. Including in that, three of them revealed in the new yorker, three of them are talking about rape which is why the nypd and perhaps the l. A. P. D. Might start looking this once again. Tucker it is hard to believe, if true, that something this past could have continued for this long without a huge number of people knowing about about it. It just doesnt make any sense. Dominic, thank you for coming on. That was a great description of what the latest is. Thanks. Thank you, tucker. Tucker with all of the allegations against Harvey Weinstein, and they are mounting by the hour, one of the what are the legal consequences . Will put that question to judge jeanine pirro, a longtime prosecutor specializing crimes. 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Tucker weve got breaking and unexpectedness in the Harvey Weinstein case. Going to bring back Dominic Patten for the Business Applications of the scandal. What have you heard . We just published, tucker, at the time you and i were talking, my colleague, mike fleming junior, published a star with some of her other great reporter saying that the Weinstein Company itself, as harvey is looking down the valleys potential charges and allegations, the Weinstein Company itself, top hollywood agencies are now refusing to allow the talent to work with them, and looks like some financiers might be talking about pulling out money. In fact, the creator of hamilton has said he wants his film, he wants them to walk away from it. Thats big news, because now youre seeing whats happening with harvey personally, youre now seeing a company that might be on the brink. You can see all of this at deadline. Com. Tucker dominic, thanks for that update. Appreciate it. Apart from the scandal, there is a very real legal element to the Harvey Weinstein saga. According to at least one news source, the fbi is reportedly investigating him right now, as is the new York City Police department. We are joined now by judge jeanine pirro. Before she was a judge, she was a very wellknown prosecutor specializing in sex crimes. Judge, where it is Harvey Weinstein stand legally right now . [laughs] in a lot of trouble, tucker. Look, i heard the tape that the nypd, the special victims unit, put together. Make no mistake, that tape would have been sufficient to prosecute Harvey Weinstein, and the excuse that the tape was insufficient to prove a crime the tape that there was no intention on, or that there is no intention on the tape, the same argument that jim cole meet used with. The intent is the secret, silent operation of your mind, and in this particular tape, the intent is shown by harvey wants to make weinsteins own words. He says, oh, im sorry, oh, i wont do it again. She specifically says on the tape, but you touched my breast. Breast. He says, im sorry, come in, i wont do it again. She was wired, she went to the police immediately. They see her on surveillance cameras running out, very upset, acting just like a young woman who had been groped would act. This is a predator. He is a serial predator. He has prayed on vulnerable young women, and he dangles the carrot of fame and fortune and the ability to be in movies, and he has gotten away with it. There was a question as to whether or not cyrus vance, the d. A. Who injected this tape by the nypd has taken money from Harvey Weinstein, and im not suggesting that they are necessarily connected, but here is the bottom line. An ada worth his or her salt would have gone forward with a jury because this isnt just a he said, she said. This is a she said, he said, and then he said exactly what she said on the tape. Tucker we know that cyrus vance, the prosecutor he referred to, did take apparently 10,000 from the inhouse Democratic Party lawyer, worked for the clintons and work for Harvey Weinstein, was representing weinstein in this matter. Wouldnt that be improper for a prosecutor to take money from a lawyer who is casey had just dropped . I dont understand how that is allowed. Unless you can show a nexus, tucker, look, david boies represents all sorts of people, and that would be hard to show a nexus between that case and that contribution and Harvey Weinstein. But you dont even need to go that far, tucker. Youve got a case here, and any prosecutor worth his or her salt would have gone forward with that case. Tucker so why didnt they . The nypd didnt do their job. This is a stellar job wiring up a victim who, by all accounts, was impeccable in catching him in this case. Tucker it sure seems like it was not their fault. I dont know how much tighter they could have made the case. Advocates back to the central question. You never want to think prosecutors are corrupt because that is the deeper kind of corruption, but why when cy vance have gone forward with this . I cant get into cy vances mind, i dont know what he was thinking. But its just as people say. When you got a case with a high profile defendant, the prosecutors very often say to themselves, is this going to be worth it . Is she credible . This guy is going to bring in all of the big guns, all the money. But the truth is on the tape, tucker. There is nothing to argue here. Turn on the tape, that the jury listen to it and send them into the deliberation room to deliberate. Tucker you think of all the cases that dont have ethical forward. Really quickly, what is Harvey Weinstein stand now . Daily mail reports they are looking into him. Do you think he is in legal jeopardy now . Do i think . I know he is in legal jeopardy now. This guy is a serial predator. He is a recidivist. Based upon the simple stuff that weve been reading in the media, he has been doing it over and over. He has admitted he has been doing it over and over, and he claimed that, gee, im sorry, im going to get help, nobody cares, harvey, if you could help. We are not social service workers. We are Law Enforcement. We are d. A. S. The article not just a system. It is time for you to fess up, although he already has fessed up in many different ways. It is time for justice, period. Tucker i dont know how going a thousand dollar night facility to talk about yourself with a therapist is exculpatory in any way, but they keep pointing to it. George jeanine, former prosecutor jeanine pirro, thanks for joining us tonight. Thank you, tucker. Tucker Harvey Weinstein of the only sexual predator in hollywood. There is the understatement of the year. Up next, a singersongwriter would tell us about the harassment she faced during her years in the industry. Interesting segment. Stay tuned for that. 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Tucker i think anybody who is covering this story has gotten the text from people in l. A. Saying this is nothing. You have been in that world. How common is this . Thats right. Its absolutely prominent. Thats the problem. The reason it was kept secret for so long is because it was normal. In the Entertainment Industry, its very, very common for higher upperlevel execs to pray on young artists. That is the biggest shock and that, people in the Entertainment Industry are not shocked at this. Tucker when you went into it, did you know that . I had heard many stories. Ill tell you, i was, you know, a good girl from california. I hadnt heard a lot of stories, enough stories to warn me from it, but when i went in first i became disillusioned with the whole hollywood trap. I said, is this really how it is . Why am i trying to be an artist if ongoing to get is people trying to touch me and hurt me and take for me, and i realized i have to stay in this industry to make it. So it became sort of a battle, a daytoday battle, and i learned very quickly, within a couple of months, with this industry is about. Tucker be specific, what is it like for a young woman your business . What are young women likely to encounter . Tucker, for instance, i was propositioned by a great agency in burbank, california. It was only my first couple of months being in los angeles. I sent in bikini pictures. Bikini photos are very common in this industry, you know, just to see what your body looks like. Nothing lewd. One of the agent said, we want to see you. The main guy, the ceo of the agency, would like to see you. We love what you look like. So was ushered into a meeting with the owner with , the main. I was very, very excited. I was all of probably 19 years old. And he closed the door and said, we love what you look like, and if you make me feel good, i can make you rich and famous. You give me something, ill give you something. What do you say . And i was actually disgusted and i turned around. I was embarrassed. I looked down at the carpet. I said, im so sorry, this is not for me. No thank you. And i backed out of there as fast as i could. But unfortunately, i was probably one of many girls had propositioned and it was very straightforward. Tucker he was that direct about it . There was no mistaking his meaning at all. No. That was the worst thing. It was not something sort of slide. It wasnt even a winkwink. It was, heres the deal. You do this for me and i will make it worth your while. It was straight strata prostitd that is how hollywood is from these days. We are going to see a lot of these stories come out even more because the tower of hollywood, this hollywood swamp, is starting to crumble. If weinstein is getting, you know, pulled to the surface, all of these other smaller players are going to start to be tucker i believe you, of course i do, never the same thing from others, but the part i dont understand is why nobody said anything. That is so overthetop. Why is this the first time were hearing this . Honestly, its not really the first time youre hearing it. Tucker i guess thats true. A lot of people tried to say things. Its just its so overlooked and its oh, oh, you know, shes just unhappy because she didnt get cast for the role. She is jealous. She wanted the role, so shes going to make up stories. Its buried by the actual establishment of hollywood. Its not just one evil guy. Its not just that one moment, that one perpetrator pig, it is everyone around him that is perpetrating the story and not letting other people speak. Also, they get paid off. What is a cool 100,000 to keep your mouth shut. So what if you give up your life and your career . Tucker you kind of wonder where the feminists have been in all that. A fair question. Joy, thanks for talking to us. Not talking. Thanks, tucker, appreciate it. Tucker chief of staff john kelly made his first public appearance at the press briefing today, he used it to deny her parsers and discourse to make discord between himself and the president. Offered to you that, although i read it all the time pretty consistently, im not quitting today. [laughter] i dont believe and i just talked to the president i dont believe im being fired today. My perspective, with respect to deborah in the room, when i come to work in the morning and read about things that i allegedly said are things that mr. Trump allegedly said or people who are going to be fired or whatever, and its just not true. Thats my frustration. And i mean no disrespect to yall. The iron hand to the staff . You dont see it . With a smile on my face. 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Police initially told us that Stephen Paddock shot a Hotel Security guard in the hallway outside his room after he had finished murdering more than 50 people on the plaza below. Then authorities change that timeline. What actually happened, investigators explained, was that a 9 59 that night, paddock shot guard jesus campos in the leg after firing about 200 rifle rounds through the hotel room door. Then paddock waited another 6 minutes, for some reason, before opening fire on the crowd. Once that rampage ended, it was another hour before police entered and found paddock dead. That was the explanation as of a few hours ago. It didnt make sense, but they were going with it. Now there is a new account. In a statement just this afternoon, the company that owns the hotel were paddock was staying says it has concluded that police are all wrong about what happened. Actually, the hotel says, Armed Security officers rushed to stephens Stephen Paddocks room immediately after the shootings began. How did he respond when they get there . Why was paddock able to continue shooting . We still dont know the answer to those questions. But thats just the beginning of what we dont know. Media outlets, for example, competently reported that paddock made a living as a professional video poker player. That is technically possible. We check today with somebody in vegas. But it is a little like an and culture pointed out in a video today , like someone made a video so what was going on with Stephen Paddock . His motive, still unknown. 64yearold accountants dont typically spend months planning mass murder for no reason. There was a no reason. No one can even guess. Another question that coulter raised, how can it possibly take eight days to figure out when the shooter checked into the hotel . Why was paddock wearing gloves if he was about to commit suicide . Have any other solitary masters of her head . To this question, we had this. How could someone possibly have broken into, burgled paddocks home in reno in one of the middle of the biggest investigations in the state customer closed on guarding the house . Are investigators that incompetent . Maybe they are. Either way, institutional credibility is dying here. When the authorities get this wrong, people stop believing them. So nobody should be surprised when conspiracy theories rushed in to fill the void of credible information from officials. Joining us know his former secret Service Agent gambon gino dan, i want to talk to you because i know you are a ridiculously logical thinker. What could possibly account for the radical changes in something as simple as a timeline of the crime. You just heard it again today. I want to be very precise here, and i appreciate the compliment, because this case is troubling, tucker. When i can both agree. Everything you said is absolutely true. There are a lot of open questions. Here is what i think is going on. I think there is an information gap between the hotel and Law Enforcement, and i think incentives here are not the same. And i dont mean that to call out anyone. Im not calling out. Everybody wants to get to the bottom of it. I get that. But obviously there is legal liability on the hotels end and the timeline has to be absolutely precise. Now, the lawenforcement idea, this is just to get on the sequence of events, not necessarily the timeline by second. The difference between a five minute Response Time and a seven Response Time, for the sequence of events may not be as impactful, but for a legal lawsuit, it may make a big difference. From a Law Enforcement perspective, tucker, that is the only good guess, but i agree with you. This case makes almost no sense. Tucker one of the main reasons that people want to move to america in the first place is the belief that our Law Enforcement is competent, our legal system is on the level, we have real justice in this country, unlike most of the world. And when authorities believe in a way that is just, they have no idea what they are doing or they are not telling the whole truth, behaving and kind of a third world way, it really kind of shakes your faith, if you see what i mean. Yeah, and i think the problem here is, with this 24hour news cycle and social media, this is different. Lets be honest. 30 years ago, Walter Cronkite or tom brokaw didnt mention it, it didnt happen. Now its a different world. Of multiple news channels on 24 hours. People want to consume news. They are looking for a narrative and a story, and right now, this story makes no sense. Ill add another open question to you. They did some kind of a brain autopsy and found no significant evidence of any brain trauma which, every time you look for an explanation for this case radicalization, brain trauma, a history of sociopathic behavior, the books slammed shut on you. It just doesnt make sense. And that is by Law Enforcement has to be super careful about getting this right because people are going to fill in the narratives themselves. Tucker and they havent been super careful about getting it right, clearly, by their own admission. They changed the basic elements of the timeline. When was jesus campos shot . The change that dramatically. Are there other look, i never have conspiracy theories on tv, i think it is wrong and irresponsible. But im starting to think there is an entirely separate cap explanation the facts we have now, anyway you stack it, doesnt add up to something that i recognize as sensible. Yeah, no, they dont. The part that puzzles me the most is why the attacker killed himself when clearly the capacity believe me, im glad the attack ended when it did. But the question is not clear as to why he ended it, given this new, revised timeline, and clearly he was prepared for a more elongated, extended attack. Again, thankfully it stopped. But it just doesnt make sense. Reasonable people can ask reasonable questions about that. Tucker who is running this question . Is that the feds . Still clark county. I would think the local Bureau Office probably has jurisdiction, but is seeking pretty significant input from the locals. I just say that because in one of the press conferences, the las vegas sheriff clearly indicated that the fbi was the primary custodian of the evidence, which says to me that they are going to make it a federal jurisdiction case. Tucker dan bongino, thank you for that. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Thank you for having me. Tucker now they are going to the immigration plan. 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Tucker in Silicon Valley already trying to control what you see and think. Theyve got your data. Google fires distancing employees. Facebook alters its algorithms to limit what it calls fake news. Now Silicon Valley is targeting the administrations immigration agenda. Ceo of facebook, Mark Zuckerberg has a lobbying group, along with a bunch of other companies, its called fwd. Us. It wants amnesty for people here illegally, and to substantially increase our intake of foreign labor. The president joins us. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Tucker it seems like the Tech Companies have maybe more power than other institutions in the history of the world since they control virtually everything that we have. Shouldnt that make us a little uncomfortable if we are trying to control something as important as immigration legislation . I dont think anybody is looking to control stuff. What we are focused on today is what to do about the daca population, what to do by dreamers. Nearly 800,000 young people came to this country at the average age of six. Theyve been here for 20 years. The question is, are we going to try to, as a nation, deport as many people as possible, absolutely the wrong approach, republicans and democrats the my can come together. Tucker i mean, lets be totally real. This is what its always been, which is a push by business to get cheaper labor to increase margins, to make people on the businesses even richer, so why are we pretending its like a human rights quest when really it is just an ageold search for cheaper workers . I think it is the right thing to do for the country and for the economy and workers too. I think the question here is tucker good for which workers . Good for everybody. Tucker how is it good for everybody to be willing to import a lot more people going to work for this. And about bringing in people who arent here in the future, going to raise wages for people. But if we talk but the dreamer population, the question is, do you think it is better to allow people to earn citizenship or do we think it is going to be better to try to deport tucker there lots of intermediate steps. One of them would be, if youre sincere, i think you would agree, we should end chain migration. There is no reason that someone that comes here illegally, granted citizenship, it should be allowed to bring an average of six from a foreign country here. Tucker, i think it is important to understand. There are 780,000 people, and they are at risk of deportation. There are a lot of things we need to fix. You and i may not agree. I do think we should have a pathway to citizenship. Tucker but thats the dishonest part. When you state is under 800,000, you are not including their relatives, who would be eligible to come here if they became citizens. So you are actually dramatically underselling the reality of this program. Im not. I think it was pretty clear on that, i think there are a lot of things wrong with immigration. In ten or 15 years, do i think we should have secondclass citizens . I dont. But i hope the 10 or 15 years from now we have fixed a lot of aspects, whether its doing a better job having a Legal Immigration system for todays economy, but the question is, is, is actually going to get together tucker people are always selling me the kind of ice cream policy its awesome for everybody. But if you import millions and millions and millions of lowwage workers, lowskill, loweducation workers as we have in the past 50 years, as no one hurt by that . Is there no American Worker who sees his wages remain stagnant or even decline because of that . Or is supply and demand not an account here. Thats a great point. Tucker is no one heard . Speak with the National Academy of sciences is very clear. 91 of americans actually see their wages increased by immigration here. Tucker wait a second, 91 of americans havent seen their wages increase. Other things have happened tucker that hasnt happened. So how i mean, as a factual matter, huge swells of the middle class have seen their wages remain stagnant or declined. Im not planning immigration, but you cant say we know that lowwage immigration has a im glad to hear youre not blaming immigration for that because that is backed by the economic tucker you didnt answer my question, which is, is nobody hurt . There is always a downside to everything. Everybody lies about it in d. C. Oh, its all good. Who do you think would be hurt by not deporting it hundred thousand people . Tucker wages matter. How much do you wake at the end of the week . Can you send your kids to summer camp . Are you worried about medical care . Now i see liberals working on behalf of big business to make certain big businesses are moret workers wages, and im thinking, what happened to the liberals who used to care about wages, do you know where they are . Again, i think it is important to keep in mind, there are a lot of things that happened with the economy. The question is, whats the impact on immigration. Nine in ten americans have seen, theres a lot of things going on. Immigration has had a positive impact. Tucker as someone who deals with that every day, thats factually untrue. Nine in ten americans havent seen their wages rise. Obviously, immigration is not the only factor. Tucker im not saying it is. Is that good for the economy . Tucker if you are selling a health care bill, gun control, nobody ever tells the truth in d. C. , what is the downside . If you lit 5 million new people come here, who is hurt . Who sees the downside for this . I think the question is, who is going to be heard by tucker [laughs] never going to answer. You can say that, but tucker anyone get hurt at all . I dont understand the question here. The question is, are you going to deport a hundred thousand people, and the answer is, that would hurt a lot of people. Tucker you are a tough person to debate, todd schulte. We appreciate it. Well be right back. 9 out of 10 couples prefer a different mattress firmness, so we created the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort, your sleep number setting. You can even see how well youre sleeping and make adjustments. Does your bed do that . The most amazing part is they start at 699. Thats 200 off our queen c2 mattress during the final days of our fall sale. Ends sunday. Visit sleepnumber. Com for a store near you whstuff happens. Old shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. So we know how to cover almost almoanything. Hing even a swing set standoff. And we covered it, july first, twentyfifteen. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum tucker like sand through in our class, another hour is done. If you like tonight, we help you dead. Tomorrow, unbelievable. Our investigation into nbc news killing that investigation of Harvey Weinstein. How and why nbc did that . Weve got a reporter who has a timeline of what actually happened and who is responsible. Until then, every night at 8 00 p. M. The show that is a sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. Dvr if you havent. And above all, stay tuned for hannity in new york. Sean thanks, tucker, as always. Roy price, amazons entertainment chief is taking a leave of absence following a Sexual Harassment claim. This comes as the mass of Harvey Weinstein scandal is expanding. More and more women continue to come forward, hollywood producer and major democratic donor of serious misconduct. Its exposing so many things. Hollywoods history of enabling this kind of despicable conduct and also, we have proof that it weinsteins behavior towards women was not a secret in hollywood. Yet people did not come forward and stop it all from happening. Whats worse, we have evidence the liberal mainstream media, the champion of womens rights, they are now exposed in this firestorm after