Merritricious when writing to the factor. Please remember the spin stops here, we are definitely looking out for you. Tucker good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight, attorney general Jeff Sessions just said on oreillys show that its time to clamp down on sanctuary cities. With that in mind we speak to a lawmaker who says theres nothing wrong with elected officials undermining Immigration Law. But first Charles Murray no more. Antiwar. Antimurray. Tucker to stop another Charles Murray event, he spoke at villanova but he had to be escorted out for his own safety after several people at people disrupted the event and called
him a supremacist. Murray returned after several people were ejected by the. At a nearby drexel university, two days ago he urged the discussed condition of murrays speech. He joins us tonight from mexico city. Thank you for coming on. I wonder if you see something inconsistent with someone who teaches at a university dedicated to the idea of the open exchange of ideas, calling for ideas he disagree with to shut be shut down. Universities are actually spaces for rational ideas, based in fact and evidence. Charles murray has never based his arguments and evidence or fact. He has never passed any kind of Progress Academic Examination of those ideas. He does not publish with academic presses. Hes had his research paid for by right wing think tanks. They paid for him to write books like The Bell Curve. They paid for those books to be published and then they actually paid for journalist to read and take seminars on those books to spread the gospel, as it will work. This is the worst pseudointellectual pay for play. Tucker because he has not been published in academic journals and has not passed to the gauntlet of other professors by that standard, plato, aristotle, socrates, none of them i recall publishing in academic journals. Is there writing also out of bounds on drexels campus . I think the question is really also about the content of these writings. It defined as a White Nationalist by the southern poverty law center, somebody who burned crosses in his youth and went on to support tucker let me stop you there. He burned crosses in his youth . I know Charles Murray and quite a bit about him. Im not familiar with that. Can you substantiate that claim . It does not take Much Research to realize that she claimed it was not racist. He went on to basically make a eugenic argument tucker he burned crosses . I dont want to get hung up but since we are having a debate about what is accurate and what is not, what are you talking about . Charles murray was a member of the clan . You cant throw these things out here. Substantiate that, please. Tucker, i am pretty sure you know what google is. You know how to do research and if you did that you would realize it something he admitted to although he claims it had no racial undertones. Unfortunately as i said, he went on to write that blacks and latinos are racially inferior and genetically debased. This might be interesting for your audience, he argued that poor whites are becoming
genetically inferior as well. The most flimsy pseudoscience debunked in every way possible and yet people continue to take it seriously. Tucker you are saying that someone who is make racial inflammatory claims that have not been vetted by academics shouldnt be allowed to speak on the College Campus and yet people have said that of you, you called on twitter White Genocide. Obviously a racially inflammatory thing to say. People shut you down and you call those people in a mob. How is he more racially inflammatory than you, calling for White Genocide . I am losing my faith in you or ability to use google. Its a racial fantasy of the kind that Charles Murray and his book likes to put forward. I am not saying no one im not saying it should not be allowed on campus, im saying that not burned any kind of
platform and the freespeech rights by that racist speech comes into play at im doing my best to i am trying to take you seriously. No one takes it seriously. You are accusing the sky of racial demagoguery and you called for White Genocide. You also applauded the Haitian Revolution for killing whites. Those are your views. Im not saying you should not be allowed to express them. I am merely pointing out the irony. In saying that Charles Murray should not be a allowed to speak because he i believe in a very fundamental way that all people are equal. Its very interesting the difference is oes not and hes dedicated his life to prove that they are not are inferior. Tucker i doubt you have read a Charles Murray book. Answer my question. You called for White Genocide. I am not making it up. It actually got a lot of attention. Are you going to defend not as a principled academic stand . What does that mean exactly . Maybe i gave you too much credit, maybe i thought you were too smart and thought you would actually do your research and figure out what is clearly satire. An imaginary concept. Of White Genocide, which is upheld by the likes of steve bannon and all these all the right figureheads actually think white people in the country are under existential threat. Tucker i dont even understand the answer but i will pass on things that just a couple days ago, you said some guy gave up his first class seat for uniformed soldier. People are thinking him. I am trying not to vomit or yell about also. Was that satire too . Will you blame Stephen Bannon for that as well . I think its really irresponsible to blindly support
for example wars that fend off young people into combat, kill many others as we have just seen too many people incinerated by u. S. Bombs and to not do that in a way that expands the iraq war tucker you are blaming the soldier, not the policy. Absolutely not. Tucker you say giving up a seat for a soldier in uniform made you want to vomit. You are not saying giving up a seat or the guy who made the war policy but for the soldier, the guy risking his life. Why did that make you feel like throwing up . I think u. S. Troops need real support. Not symbolic gestures. What they need is not a firstclass seat, they need support. Women in the military dont need to be subjected to an epidemic of sexual assault, take away from their families that do nothing and no good for everyone. Tucker thats fine but why is it bad for them to give them
a firstclass seat . That makes you mad. Why . Im all for generous gestures devoted towards those who most deserved them in and our societ society. Particularly for economic reasons make difficult decisions like joining the military, doing other dangerous work that has to take place in our society whether being an economic migrant and i think these people all deserve better. They deserve to not have to join the military if they would rather just tucker but he did. He doesnt have a governmentsubsidized job. Why did it make you mad . This is how we support the troops. Not by sending them off to wars. Tucker you began this conversation with reference to your own scholarship and the academic journals you and your fellow professors published in ant because i do want to take you seriously, i spent some time reading some of them today. I want you to explain to me what this means. I was an editor for a long time. Now. It was an interesting day, Charles Murray came to talk about a government he says has grown too big to give kind of a grim picture on the future of america. It was tough for him to do that today. A book from his past, The Bell Curve, the reason protesters showed up today calling him a racist, interrupting a lecture he was giving to a small group here. Where one protester was spitting in the face of a student that came to watch the lecture. And also another one who argued while arguing for his own right to free speech told mr. Murray that he would not be able to speak. Heres another one. We will show you now. Antiwar, Charles Murray no more. Murray, libertarian Political Scientist created quite a stir back in the 90s when he
published The Bell Curve, it tied the iq of americans to how successful they will be and also published iq averages of americans according to ethnicity and just to go through those that were published, in first place certain sects of jews, east asian americans, White Americans such as Charles Murray himself and in fourth place, africanamericans. Of course, this drew a lot of controversy at the time and has for years now. Will the book of scientific and murray said that the findings of it are largely supported by the American Psychological association. He has been branded as a racist by number of people on the left. And he has been protested quite a bit in a very polarized time right now, he has been protested just in the last few weeks of in Middlebury College where the protest turned violent and a professor that was with mr. Murray ended up in the
hospital with a concussion. Someone who attended todays lecture, the hatred for mr. Murray, we asked what they thought of the lecture and what they thought about such violence and hatred towards this man. I understand why people are protesting and i understand the heights of sensitivities but at the same time, i understand him trying to further the knowledge of his signs. 95 left a liberal free speech is the enemy of normalcys at this point. It has to be tamped down. A few of the protesters had to be escorted out. He was able to finish the speech. He clarified the findings of his book, he certainly did make an impression on the student who was africanamerican. And softened the mood. Tucker thank you, rob. Im sure he was not there to
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night, i get people, on both sides assaying 17 u. S. Intelligence agencies that would it include coast guard intelligence. Have they not concluded that . They say that but it is bogus. When james clapper, the director of National Intelligence signed that report in january, technically he represents all 17. I will bet you a dime to a nickel you cannot get a guest on unprepared who could name ten of them. This figure, 17, is bogus. But the point here is critical. The one agency that could conceivably have done a forensic examination on the democratic computers is a National Security agency. We learned that from snowden, they are in your computer, mind mind, iphones. Everyone else signed that report said they were highly competent. The nsa said it was only
moderately competent. You Dont Go To War with russia, you dont stage this theater that is going on In Washington, that which could destroy a presidency but there is one other thing and let me leave you with this when they admit they have no evidence, they fall back on something else, which i think its very important. They say putin directed russian propaganda at us and helped elect trump. I dont know about you, tucker, but i find that insulting because the premise they are putting out In Washington is that the American People are zombies. Or lambs, and fixing my metaphors. A judas goat. The premise of democracy that we are democratic citizens. We have a b. S. Detector in us and we know how to use it. They are telling us Out Of Washington what rubio is telling us. Every politician who loses election here in america and europe is going to say they were hacked by putin. That is what mrs. Clinton is
saying. Tucker theyve never demonstrated by the way why putin would want trump to win. Because trump is for fracking . Professor, thank you for that. I dont know the truth but i think it is worth asking these questions. I appreciate you doing that. Thank you for joining us. Up next, a massachusetts lawmaker is probably defending her decision to try to sabotage i. C. E. By warning illegal aliens of impending emigration rates. She would not return our calls so we will talk to another massachusetts lawmaker who says she did exactly the right thing. Thats next. New exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. And each job created by the Energy Industry supports two others in the community. Altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. These are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing americas emissions. Energy lives here. All while reducing americas emissions. Not to be focusingo finaon my moderatepe. To severe chronic plaque psoriasis. So i made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. Humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. In clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75 and even 90 clearance in just 4 months. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Dont start humira if you have an infection. Ask about humira, the 1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. Clearer skin is possible. It clearly makes their own cities less safe. Tucker that was attorney general Jeff Sessions on the Oreilly Factor talking about the administrations crackdown on sanctuary cities. Meanwhile in the common commonf massachusetts, Michelle Dubois has no regrets on trying to sabotage. She posted rumors that i. C. E. Was going to conduct raids in brockton, massachusetts. Jimmy algers is a Massachusetts State Senator and supports representative dubois reference and trying to make Mas Sanctuary State for immigrants. Thank you for coming on. You would like to see the state of massachusetts vote to make the commonwealth a sanctuary
city for people here illegally. That seems to be legitimate. If you are able to do that, how would you feel if a tariff in massachusetts incurred people to ignore the law that you passed. Do you think people should be punished for that . When we are talking about representative dubois cup she was looking out for the best interest of her entire community. We know the ice rates have been incredibly destabilized communities. It caused immigrants, legal or undocumented to have less trust in calling the police about a crime. She was really looking out for the best interest of all of her constituents including the immigrants. To limit Police Interaction with i. C. E. Raids. Tucker ive heard all that a lot. Theres no Social Science to suggest any of this makes Community Safer but whatever. There is. There are studies that say that. There is. Tucker safer but not because they are sanctuary
cities. Isnt it a little weird for lawmakers to be encouraging people to ignore the law . We all have different approaches as legislators. In the district i represent, when we have heard rumors about i. C. E. Raids, they can reach out and check with the agents to see that happening because the disturbing xenophobic policies of i. C. E. Deportations making everyone a priority if you are undocumented, we need some limits at the state level with our taxpayer dollars, state and local police not only because of it would make communities more safe but its also something that will limit the fear that many immigrant communities are feeling right now. Tucker can we just be real . You know how this works. Trump did not write these laws and passed these laws. Hes not a legislator or lawmaker. He is enforcing laws that are on the books, passed with a lot of democrats voted for them. What he is saying is there was a very disturbing executive order. Prioritizing everyone for deportation. Tucker the basic Immigration Law is clear to everyone who lives here. There is a process by which you get to come here, you get a green card, you get a visa of some kind. If you dont have that, you are not allowed to be here. It was passed by congress, thats the law, it has been that way for 240 years. Nothing to do with trump. Do lawmakers get to decide which legitimately passed laws they are going to try to subvert or not . Can you see the problem here . I disagree because we are talking about State Resources, local police enforcement, we get to make decisions about what level of cooperation we have with federal policies and federal action like i. C. E. Agents. Tucker no you dont. Its not about here you havent stated lawmaker encouraging people to violate the law and doing so explicitly on social media. Im not attacking you, how would you feel if the governor of massachusetts decided that we dont have to pay federal income taxes because they are bad and cost massachusetts a lot of money. Would you be in favor of that how would you feel about federal gun laws . Like not enforcing federal gun laws, is that legitimate too . What im talking about is we have a federal Immigration Policy which is broken. We need Immigration Reform by republicans in congress, at the state level, what is the best u . We have had police chief after police chief talk about the fact that they would rather direct the resources toward violent criminals, whether those who are undocumented or tucker you are not engaging my question at all. Let me ask you the first question. If you were to pass laws in the
state of massachusetts to make it a Sanctuary State and there was was a Sheriff Somewhere who felt like subverting those laws doing what you are doing to the feds but to the state of massachusetts would you support his right to do that . I would not support that because under our belt, we would prohibit sheriffs with collaborating with i. C. E. Agents. Thats part of the bill. Tucker you are prohibiting people doing the law the ignorg the law but he wont make the same people exercising their freedom of conscience . Law officials the other day have to follow state laws and when we are saying is how is the best use of State Resources . Is it the best use of Taxpayer Resources to target hardworking families in their communities by giving back and providing a benefit to the commonwealth of massachusetts . Tucker i know your state law. You are from acton down in
winchester. There was a teacher strangled in an apartment who we now know is in a legal illegal alien. You talk about protecting these families how much time have you spent protecting people like that woman and her family . Now that she is dead . First of all, winchesters not too far away from my district, i feel horrible for the family. Worchester. How they found mr. Melendez is that it was local police, the District Attorney with i. C. E. Was not involved with catching these people. It was a case of old police work were able to capture this perso person. Tucker he should not have been here in the first place. He was an illegal alien. If he hadnt been here, he would not have murdered this woman. Encouraging him to stay here,
im not you can kind of see the connection here is a human being. What would you say to her parents . Sorry . Where disagree with you is that if we just have a broad brush against all undocumented immigrants, you are not creating the trust that allows immigrant communities or anyone in the community and feeling comfortable to call the police if they see a crime in their neighborhood. Tucker last question. Who should be deported . You have 11 million odd, maybe more, illegal aliens in america. To all of them have the moral right to stay here . Who should be deported now . We have had past administrations like the Reagan Administration that did Immigration Reform. Undocumented immigrants who have a violent criminal history, that have committed a violent act, they should be deported. Thats common sense and i think people agree with that. But a broad brush, the
prioritizes all undocumented immigrants, i think thats outrageous. Its xenophobic and it is deeply disturbing. Tucker all right. Senator, thank you for coming on tonight. I appreciate it. Im next, parents are rallying and Montgomery County maryland after a horrifying rape allegedly occurred at rockville high school. A petition demanding Melania Trump move to d. C. Immediately, for reasons that are not exactly clear. Is anyone or anything safe from politics these days . And the bitterness that seems to follow it everywhere. We have a panel to discuss that up ahead. Guests can earn a how cafree night when Theypring Book direct on choicehotels. Com and stay with us just two times . Spring time. Badda book. Badda boom. Or. Badda bloom. Seriously . Book now at choicehotels. Com but first things first e call trugreen,. Americas 1 professional lawn care company. Millions of homeowners like you trust us to give them a lawn they can live on. And tailored care plans ensure their lawns get exactly what they need to thrive. Guaranteed. That means you can do more of this, this, this, and this. Okay, maybe not this. Start your trugreen lawn plan today for only 29. 95. And live life outside. And is clinically proven to begin helping many patients achieve both Symptom Relief as well as remission. Infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. Entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. While not reported with entyvio, pml, a rare, serious Brain Infection caused by a virus may be possible. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections, or have flulike symptoms, or sores. Liver problems can occur with entyvio. If your uc or crohns medication isnt working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. Entyvio. Relief and remission within reach. Alleged rape is not the first Violent Crime in rockville hi. An appearance at tonights rall rally, how are you doing . We are outside that Board Of Education meeting going late tonight, right where i am standing there were dozens of protesters at sues Head Rallying for accountability in the School System. Heres what some of them had to say. We are worried about the lack of accountability of our School Officials and our elected officials. Parents dont know they can send their children to school and know that they will be safe. We have grown men with a little to no education that are walking the hallways with our young children. Students and parents are very concerned for her safety. Earlier today, there was some news in that rape case. The judge, the 17yearold rape suspect denying a bail, is the
big revelation tonight is a video of brutality that occurred nine days before the alleged rape. It is caught on camera. It is brutal. Look at this. It is just vicious. Physically i am getting but mentally, im not Getting Better because of the social media harassment, it has been worse than the actual attack. Bullying. Ya. What has happened . Threats, the video being out there. The memes. Everything. The comments. Meanspirited . Yeah. You say that that hurts words then actual physical, brutal assault that you underwent . Yeah. As you and i talked a little bit off camera, just kind of a message here, those kids and adults need to realize just how damaging this stuff is. Do do you think that customx no, they dont. The School Officials did absolutely nothing. They did not call the police, the School Resource officer who is a police officer, that is supposed to be at the school was not there on the property that day and there was no replacement for him. So the school did not call the police for reasons we cannot answer. We dont know. They did not call 9114 young lady who just sustained a head injury. That brave young woman wanting her boys to be heard and again, that assault happened nine days before the alleged rape. Putting out a statement saying they are committed to Student Safety but that family absolutely not seeing eye to eye with the School System here. We will see what develops and it is certainly the reason why they were protesters out here as we saw earlier. Tucker Griff Jenkins in rockville. The Vice President taking prudent steps to avoid scandal so ours Candle Mongering Media is ridiculing him. Have we tumbled to a new low in politics . A panel up straight ahead. E not. Tell you what, ill give it to you for half off. Sfx Engine Revving silence i noticed it as soon as we moved into the new house. A lot of people have vertical blinds. Well, if a lot of people jumped off a bridge, would you . You hungry . Im okay right im. Im becoming my, uh, mother. Its been hard,
but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful. Pumpkin, bundling our home and Auto Insurance is a good deal like buying in bulk thats fun, right . Progressive cant protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto. This seems like another opportunity to beat up on evangelicals. This is not a crazy view among observant or orthodox muslims. Is it . If you want me to be honest . The first thing i thought was poor mrs. Pence. Can you imagine, all the hundreds of events she gets dragged to all the time . I would kill myself. Tucker [laughs] you know what this really means. I felt so terrible for her. What a terrible arrangement. She deftly got the short end of the stick. Tucker you live here as well, people of a tough time keeping their marriages together because it its not a wholesome town. It is a cesspool of sin. This is a very interesting conversation to have because i respect their personal choice to do this and keep their marriage together. I think thats why it has worked so well for them. There are a lot of women in
power, on both sides of the political spectrum who fall tempted to lack victim to temptation. What i dont want to see happen is that women who work in government, lets say you have ideals or dreams of becoming Chief Of Staff cant stay after there and be around abbas because they may feel uncomfortable in that situation. Feel like some discussion needs to be around that thing. There are a lot of women who consider themselves to be at the table but maybe feel like they are making their bosses wife uncomfortable by doing that. Tucker it is a tough thing. By the way, work relationships do flowers sometimes interpersonal relationships. Thats totally real but what i am struck by is the judgment from people who make a Living Denouncing others for judging, the editor of mother jones went on a twitter rant. Clearly pretty unhappy person in her personal life, i guess. I have no issue with it. I agree with ashley. When you take this into the professional realm, outside to your personal life, do whatever you want. You be you and your marriage. Im thrilled for you that you have found something that works. I would never want to judge somebody elses relationship but when it comes to your public figure working in the u. S. Government, which Vice President pentz has been for many years, how do you make at this so that it is not extremely disadvantageous . For females . Tucker i agree with the on that. Like uncle americo. I agree with the outrage, thats a little tucker almost 400,000 people have now signed a petition demanding Melania Trump to move to the white house from new york. For many years, you do not attack the first lady unless she does something unusual. What is this . This seems crazy to me because she has said and it may be unconventional that shes not in the white house but she still doing first lady duties even still being out in the white house. Because she wants her son to finish school, she somehow is now being blamed and the reason for it is they are paying an exorbitant amount of taxpayers for her security. What about all the vacations the obamas went on . Tucker government spending, i wish we had more time. Thank you both. We will be right back. [laughs] i came to ibm to manage global clients and big data. But i found so much more. its really a melting pot of activities and people. applause, cheering New York State is filled with bright minds like victorias. To find the companies and talent of tomorrow,
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