And can republicans give up trump . The bigger question is whether democrats will be able to. That was apparent in this talk between Hillary Clinton and nancy pelosi as we wait for nancy pelosi to make her next move on impeachment. Theyre pushing for a 911type commission suggesting that he spoke with putin during the capitol hill riots. Listen to this. Historically we will find out who he is beholden to, who pulls his strings. Id love to see his phone records, see whether hes talking to putin the day the insurgents invaded our capitol. We know that not just him, but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members have the same disregard for democracy. To the point of was he beholden to him, as i said in that picture with my blue suit as i was leaving, i was pointing rudely at him with you, mr. President , all roads lead to putin. I dont know what putin has on him, but what happened last week was a gift to putin. Martha here now joy murdock, National Review editor and andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor. Great to have you with us today. I think you could have taken that conversation and it could be a conversation from several years ago. That conversation continues to be ongoing. Its interesting to hear Hillary Clinton talk about phone records. Several of hers were missing as i remember over the course of those years and now she would like to dig into President Trump. Shes sure that he was talking to Vladimir Putin january 6. Your thoughts. Its extraordinary. I think trying to get this russia narrative out of Hillary Clintons hands is like trying to drag a rattler out of a baby. She want let go. Weve had these investigations to determine theres no collusion with the kremlin and President Trump or any members of his campaign or administration. Theyre still going on even though multiple investigations have said theres no such thing. Beyond that, look at the president s policies. He has gotten nato to increase spending by 2 of gdp. Four countries were doing that. Its now ten. And now sending javelin antitank missiles to the ukraine, making America Energy independent. This is not good for russia that exports hill. Look at Hillary Clinton among other things when she was secretary of state basically allowed a deal to go through to let the kremlin take over 20 of americas uranium supply. They put forth in the Clinton Foundation 140 million in donations. So she turned over uranium and took in 140 million. So what is playing footsies with the kremlin now . Martha reality checks are in order now when you listen to that and you go through the very strong and persuasive list that joy just laid out for us. What do you make of this conversation . Martha, im a lawyer, not a shrink. This is part reflection and part projection. As far as reflection, if theres one thing that we learned in the investigation into the way that the Law Enforcement and intelligence apparatus of the government was put in service of Democratic Party causes, specifically the Clinton Campaign in 2016, its that Hillary Clinton did more and her campaign did more to fuel the russian farce, the collusion thing, than anyone else did. Basically they financed the steele dossier, which was essentially the main substance of the illegal wiretapping that went on or the fisa applications that turned out to be based on nothing. Then if you go back to her role as secretary state during the obama years, he was point person for a lot of the obama administrations initiatives in connection with russia and the russia reset including this operation called scalcolvo, which helped russia develop their own Silicon Valley and made them according to the Defense Department and fbi more adept in their Cyber Security capabilities. So i would deflect blame someplace else too. Martha if nothing else, it shows a lack of selfawareness and looking back at the history of how all of this has gone. She used the word cult and we hear that word a lot right now. Its a word that is being brandished about to represent all people that supported President Trump over the past four years. Well talk about it later. I do want to play this sound bite and get your reaction to bill barr and an interview that he did with itv. Lets play that. I dont know if id use the word inevitable, but when your start suppressing free speech, when people lose confidence in the media and when they lose faith in the integrity of elections, youre going to have some people resort to violence. Martha i think its such an astute comment from the former attorney general. Going through Tucker Carlsons monologue last night, he cited Abraham Lincoln. These two comments, one from the attorney general that you just heard and this one from Abraham Lincoln have a lot of similarities. I want to read this. This is in 1838 when he was an Illinois House representative. Lincoln said good men seeing their property destroyed, their families insulted and live endangered, their persons injured and seeing nothing in prospect that forebodes a change nor the better become tired of and disgusted with a government that offers them no protection. So all the labels that are being thrown at these Trump Supporters and the disgruntled element that we see right now, what do you think when you hear those two comments . I think that people tucker had a good point the night of the capitol. He denounced it then and as i do now. He said we should ask the question, what causes people to do this . What leads them to ask in a horrible fashion . He said part of it is the feeling theyre ignored, not listened to. 75 Million People have serious questions about aspects of the election in nobody. November wanted to hear any of it. They could have said it might not have been enough to make a difference but we have a problem with these ballot dropoff boxes that are unsupervised. More ballots than voters. Lets look into it. They wanted to hear nothing about it. Some people got desperate and lashed out in a way that was very violent and deadly and took it way too far. Martha andy, last thought . I think its not a good idea to tar 75 Million People that voted for trump as if they had the same motivations. A lot of people that voted basically did what many people do in many elections, which is the lesser of two evils. But id also say that the history of this country and the history of free speech is that if you cut off peoples avenues of legitimate outreach and legitimate speech, political speech, the feelings and the fuelling behind it and the speech itself doesnt go away. It just seeks out worse sources and worse vehicles to get it out. This is a lot of fire were playing with right now. Martha so true. Wellsaid. Wellsaid. I remember a. G. Barr saying if you mess with the elections this time or you have millions of mailin ballots, youre playing with fire. We see thou this has all erupted with people feeling so disconnected and then being shot down by twitter and facebook for opening their mouth in some cases. Thanks very much. Andy, always good to see you. Thanks, martha. Martha all right. So we just received new details on the message of President Trumps farewell address, which is set to be released in the 4 00 p. M. Hour. A live report on what you can expect to hear there. Stay with us for that. 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Rapper lil wayne and for the tiger king fans, joe exotic is potentially on the list. Moments well hear from Alice Johnson who has been working behind the scenes after her life sentence was commuted by the president. But first, Kristin Fisher at the white house here today. Good afternoon, kristin. Martha, were waiting for in list of about 50 to 100 commutations and pardons to drop. President trump spent a lot of time in his final days in office finalizing this list with the white house counsel. Its been very fluid. Theres a few names that we can rule out. First of all and perhaps most importantly, sources are telling us that President Trump is not expected to issue a protective pardon for himself or for members of his family. Hes also not expected to pardon Julian Assange despite an Aggressive Campaign by the team to secure a pardon for its founder. Two well known rapper in trouble nor federal gun crimes are in the running. Lil wayne who pleaded guilty while traveling on a private jet with a gun. And kodak black. Both endorsed President Trump before election day. And steve bannon whose fate is unclear. Karl rove said he think a pardon for the former chief strategist would be a bad idea. Heres why. If the president , you know steve bannon is under indictment now for fraud, that just saying im going to do what i did for my man, Paul Manafort who was guilty of tax evasion, that would be very problematic. Also in the mix, joe exotic, in prison for a murder plot to kill carroll baskin. His team has a hair and limo and makeup team outside the prison waiting for him. So far very unclear if that is a realistic possibility from the white house. They have not commented on that at all today. The other big thing is this farewell video that President Trump recorded here at the white house. We know it will be released around 4 00 p. M. And we just got excerpts. Hes expected to have kind words for the incoming administration. Hes going to say that i pray for its success in keeping america safe and prosperous but he also wants to know that the movements we have started is only beginning. Then hes expected to go through some of what he believes are his greatest accomplishments. The president is expected to say im especially to be the first president in decades that started no new wars. Well be hearing from President Trump today. Its not going to be a live shot. This is something that was taped yesterday. So no plans right now to see President Trump in person on his final full day in office. Martha . Martha kristin, thank you very much. Just looking through some of these excerpts as well. He is also expected to say that no nation can thrive that loses faith in its own values, history and heros. For these are the very sources of our unity and our vitality. So well look for that to be released at around 4 00. Just about 40 minutes from now. Well keep a close eye on that. My next guest has insight on the individuals that could land on President Trumps pardon list today. Alice johnson has become a criminal Justice Reform advocate after she received a commutation and full pardon from the president. She spent 21 years in prison on a light drug offense. Welcome back, alice. Good to see you today. Good to see you too, martha. Martha thanks for being here. What are your thoughts on what we can expect and are there certain things that youve been asking for and people youve been asking for to be included on this list . Yes, i especially have been asking for nonviolent drug offenders that have been serving draconian sentences. I believe i made some very good headway. Theres others that i have been asking for that have had their sentences way too long. I put my hands, my head down and just trying to grind it out and the most deserving candidates i could to send to the white house. Martha so you have worked is it true that you worked closely with Jared Kushner on this effort and how much of a say do you believe youll have in the end . How many people of yours do you hope will end up on that finalist . I sent over 100 people in 2020. I know that all of them are not going to make it. I wanted to give them the best shot that i could. Ive been in close contact with jared hes worked hard on this. The unsung hero is ivanka. She rolled her sleeves up and jumped into the process of clemencies and pardons like you wouldnt believe. Shes worked through the weekend nonstop including jared. Shes really stepped in and just raised the bar of being a hardworking person that wants to make sure that as many receive their freedom today as possible. Martha alice, you know, its great to see you. So wonderful that you used your own freedom to create that environment for other people as well. We all look forward to seeing this list. Thank you. Great to see you, alice. Be well. Thank you. Great being here. Martha thank you. Several hundred National Guard troops from the state of georgia are securing this capitol this week. Well speak with governor kemp. Much in the news lately. Well ask him about the congressmans wife and the guard that might be up to no good. Thats next. Man whats my safelite story . My truck. Is my livelihood. So when my windshield cracked. The experts at Safelite Autoglass came right to me. With service i could trust. Right, girl . Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. With Mortgage Rates at their lowest in history, its time to refi. But if youre a veteran homeowner and need cash, heres big news. Introducing refiplus from newday usa. It lets you refi at alltime low rates plus you could take out 50,000 or more. Money for security today, money for retirement tomorrow. Refiplus. Its only for veterans and its only from newday usa. Martha she says she deserves it. The College Student reeled in by the covid police in the Cayman Islands is now safe at home in georgia. Skylar said she ditched her wrist monitor to watch her boyfriend in a jet ski race. She sentenced to two months behind bars, she served 32 days. 29yearold milan lokar went out to walk his dog in philadelphia and was shot and killed and left in the street by two thieves. His dog leash still in his grip. One of the suspects has a rap sheet that has kidnapping and assault. His bail was cut from 30,000 to 3,000. Its a slap in the face. Everybody is hurt by this. Martha terrible. The other suspect is still on the lose. The 22yearold woman from harrisburg, pennsylvania that is accused of stealing Nancy Pelosis laptop in the capitol hill riots is now in custody. Investigators say someone claiming to her exboyfriend said she was going to sell to it russia but the deal fell through. The fbi is not confirming that story at this point. More than 400,000 people have now died from covid19 here in the United States according to the studies by Johns Hopkins university. Theres more than 24 million cases in this country. President elect joe biden has big plans for faster citizenship here with People Living in the it illegally. He will shorten the 13 year wait down to eight years. We expect to hear more about that in his speech team in the first 100 days push of the biden administration. The a. P. Plan says theres no more border security. The live look at delaware where president elect joe biden is set to depart for joint base andrews in maryland. He begins to embark on his move to the white house where he will call home for the next four years. Were watching that movement with White House Correspondent kevin corke who is live in d. C. Good afternoon, kevin. Great to have you in the city, martha. Good to be with you once again. We continue to observe security preparations here in washington. Yes, there is news that we can share this afternoon as we just learned that the head of the National Guard has confirmed that a dozen members of the guard have actually been removed from duty here in the nations capitol because of suspected far right extremist ties. General hawkinson would only say that they saw inappropriate texts that caused relief from their duty. Just the latest striking headline of what is supposed to be a peaceful transfer of power in the capitol. The capitol is more fortified in the green zone in iraq. For those wondering if this level of vetting is unprecedented, those in the know say think again. I think the vetting occurring with the National Guard and others is the same type of vetting with most inaugurations. The secret service, the fbi and others will vet any individuals that will have close proximity to have access to the sensitive locations around d. C. Chad wolf speaking there. Meanwhile, the bidens as you mentioned ready to take up residence in the nations capitol. The former v. P. Said he would represent guardsmen and all americans on his next journey in public life. Youre true patriots did fined by the courage of their character. So its deeply personal in our next journey to washington starts here. A place that defines the very best of who we are as americans. The very best indeed. Meanwhile, fox news confirming that biden has invited Mitch Mcconnell and congressman mccarthy to join him at st. Matthews church, which is a custom on inauguration day. The church suffered fire damage in riots this summer. Martha . Martha thank you, kevin. Thats st. Matthews. He will be the second catholic president of the United States, joe biden, when hes sworn in tomorrow at noon. Thanks, kevin corke. A congressmans broad accusations against the National Guard for the inaugural have reaction to the january 6 capitol breach. 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Martha as a member of congress, questions of the loyalty of the National Guard because theyre flight men and less likely to have voted for biden. His comments have been met by outrage. In moments, well talk to brian kemp. Meanwhile, the work goes on. The fbi putting Law Enforcements on high alert to find those that put pipe bombs at the entrance to the rnc and dnc. That bomber is at large. We have 21,000 and 25,000 National Guard troops for securing this small region here. That raises questions about whether or not enough resources are being allocated to other targets that may be fanning out across the country. Ken cuccinelli joins me now. Thanks for being here. Good to be with you. Always a pleasure. Martha so i want to get to this news that just broke a short time ago, which is that 12 members of the National Guard were pulled from their duty here due to what was described as inappropriate texts or social media. What do you have to say about that . What do you know about that situation . Well, first of all, my understanding as of the time we sit here, its just what you said. They identified inappropriate type of statements. Theres no, i repeat no identified threat from any of these people to the inauguration or any suggestion that im aware of that any of them had any intention to do anything other than their duty in the National Guard. I dont know who the 12 are, but that is my understanding, the secretary of defense has spoken similarly to that point. This additional vetting is a function of the heightened anxiousness in washington. If only they had been so anxious about the violence across the country the last year, we might not have gotten to a point where this seems to some people to be an acceptable form of political expression. Martha you raise a great point. When you think about all of that across the summer, one of the most Haunting Images to me is the third precinct in minneapolis when it was they moved out of it. The police moved out in the middle of the night. Set on fire. They basically escaped in their squad cars. And didnt come back. People were ransacking it. They didnt want the National Guard. And seattle and portland as well. Dont send the National Guard. Now behind us, you have a force that is several times the number that we have in iraq and afghanistan. A division. You have a division. The last up of thousands of these troops was requested by the speaker through the capitol police. She even wanted crewmanned machine guns in washington. That was rejected. Theres simply no use for that in a security arrangement for a civilian undertaking. Just so some of this has gone beyond any legitimate security need. You know, theyre disciplined, theyre professional and the secret service has choreographing this very effectively to maintain security and safety. The folks that are here performing security will do a good job. Weve had a very peaceful week as expected. Theres been nothing but chatter including out in the state capitols which is critically important. The world is not about washington. Its supposed to be about everywhere else, which is what the department of Homeland Security tries to keep secure. Martha how would you characterize why theres been this call for such a tremendous force here to protect the people in the capitol and what also happened on january 6, which was haunting and awful. In each one of these situations, you want the appropriate force to deal with the threat that you get. Wouldnt that be nice. Martha yes. As we said across the country, theres these concerns about individualized attacks that could happen in different places. So the thats absolutely a problem. It all arose on january 6. Part of it is because congress was the target. Now, theres a special problem related to that from a threat standpoint in a democratic constitutional republic. At the same time, where was this concern for the rest of america . When their own butt was on the line, all of a sudden they want every troop and soldier they can find to protect them. Were perfectly happy to keeping them safe. Thats our goal and our job but not at the sacrifice of the rest of america. Martha well, the National Guard one last thing. Martha final thought. Congressmen are not more important than any other american. Everyone in this country should be kept safe and thats what the department of Homeland Security has endeavored to do through this entire difficult year. Martha ken cuccinelli, thanks for your thoughts. Good to see you, sir. Good to be with you. Martha here in d. C. As we said, several hundred of the National Guard troops have been sent from georgia, sent from states across the country. That states Governor Brian Kemp joins me now. Good to have you here. Thanks for being here today. Good afternoon. Martha i want to play this sound bite that has gotten a lot of attention from democratic representatives from tennessee, steve cohen. Watch this. The guard is 90 some odd percent i believe male. About 20 white males voted for biden. You have to figure in regard, theyre more than 25 of the people that protected us that voted for biden. The other 75 are in the class that would be the large class of folks that might want to do something. Martha so 75 of the National Guard would fall under the category of the folks that would want to do something nefarious is the suggestion there. What do you say to that, governor . I saw that clip and i thought to myself, that is pretty outrageous. He doesnt know the georgia National Guard like i do, martha. I remember this summer 2 00, 3 00 a. M. Walking around the square of the Georgia State capitol shaking every guardsmans hand that was standing six feet apart protecting this building during civil unrest. It was as diverse a group as youve ever seen in your life. They were there to do one thing and that is to follow orders to protect the capitol and protect property in the city of atlanta and state assets at that time. You know, these are good people. These are your friends and your neighbors. Theyre not full Time Military folks unless theyre deployed somewhere. These are people that are working in factories and at schools and other places. Theyre our friends and our neighbors that is completely outrageous. You know, ive seen a lot about the vetting process. Its a normal process that goes on even Major General tom card has to go through when the Vice President or the president or some dignitary comes to georgia. We should be asking the question we were not doing that. Or georgia National Guard is unbelievable what were doing. I was with our troops helping the border wall mission and protecting the border in texas. Theyve done incredible work in the pandemic, helping with testing, Infection Control teams in nursing homes, food banks and now theyre helping us with vaccine administration. So these are great patriots. Martha they are. Governor, i have to leave it there. Id note on the way out, the senate races were certified by the secretary of state in georgia today. In cases against that were dropped. We look forward to talking a again. Good to see you today. Thank you. Martha coming up, joe concha and Raymond Arroyo on the Risky Business some would say of undoing the trump doctrine just for the sake of undoing it. And also the call by some to deprogram Trump Supporters next. The question is, how are we going to really deprogram these people who have signed up for the cult of trump. If you have risk factors like heart disease, diabetes and raised triglycerides,. Vascepa can give you something to celebrate. Vascepa, when added to your statin,. 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But he may want to do that cautiously writing a barrage of leftappeaing unilateral actions is no way to be bipartisan in a congress that the democrats control by the narrowest margins. So we bring in juan williams, joe concha and Raymond Arroyo. Juan, lets start with you on that. When you have a close divide on the hill and a divided nation, doesnt make sense to undo things for the sake of undoing them. Some of those things i think there could be some agreement with actually a good idea. Absolutely. I think that there is going to be an emphasis on bidens part in looking for such ideas. On the other hand, i would say theres a narrow margin as you pointed out. The result is in the first 100 days a narrow time frame in which to try to get some things done urgently. If were thinking about covid, that is something that hopefully most americans can agree on. Its how we go about getting help to people that need the vaccine, people that need economic aid during to recover from the damage done to the commit by covid. So that will be the top. Well see how it goes. Martha raymond, undoing the xl pipeline deal, thousands of jobs attached to that deal, a lot of positive energy and that deal in many ways. The paris climate agreement, if you can get china to agree to do things that you want everybody else to do, perhaps that would make more sense. You know, people have common sense about these issues. Martha, this is a blitzkrieg on the trump legacy. When you break this down, trump was not an idealogical politician. That was part of his problem to the establishment in washington. These were Practical Solutions that were not always politically acceptable. That made him a pariah in washington. Talk to the border agents, talk to people, abductions in yuma are down by 80 . Arrests are down 70 in the el paso region. This is a good thing. Empowers border patrol, takes lives away from danger. This is a good thing. I think we have to look at these from the xl pipeline, the jobs being produced. Is it an efficient way to move energy, it is. You have to give trump marks on them. If biden thinks they need repair, fine. This blitzkrieg and givemes to the left flank is no way to pave a path to unity. Martha we understand that joe biden, joe concha, will speak a lot about unity and we expect there will be some outreach to people that voted for President Trump. But there seems to be a path that is beaten in the media to label these people as a cult that needs to be deprogrammed. Heres Eugene Robinson on msnbc. Watch this. Theres millions of persons, almost all white, almost all republicans that somehow need to be deprogrammed. Its as if they theyre members of a cult, the trumpist cult. They have to be deprogrammed. Martha deprogrammed i guess from all of those policies that they look at with clear eyes and think are pretty good ideas, joe. Thats a big cult, right . 75 Million People. And apparently Eugene Robinson was not on the zoom meeting. We saw katie couric. She was on nbc, then cbc and then abc and there she is on National Television also saying that Trump Supporters need to be deprogrammed. Back to your point and biden and unity. Theres words and deeds. Using executive orders out of the gate. Executive orders are supposed to be used when congress is at a standstill and things cant get done. You take matters into your own hands and do something that brings a better solution to xyz until we can figure it out. To do it from hour number 1, that doesnt show me bidens words are backed up by his deeds. One story here and i hope joe biden does a long press conference when he comes in to explain these decisions. Out of this caravan that is coming and juan talked about coronavirus, migrant caravans are people close together where coronavirus is raging. For that to come across our border, that is a walking super spreader event in a country already having a big problem in controlling cases. So a lot on joe bidens plate or day one or day two is a longranging press conference that doesnt involve hand picking reporters. Martha that would be great. I do want to circle back in the last minute that we have, juan. The move by mike pence not to be present at the sendoff ceremony, theres a lot of people that have been invited. Don mcgahn said he wont atent. Kevin mccarthy and Mitch Mcconnell are going to the mass with joe biden. What do you make of that . The emphasis in this frame is about healing. I think you see the actions by Mitch Mcconnell that said that the president s actions provoked the mob and Kevin Mccarthy voted in objection to the certification. People are trying to come together. 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The president elect has arrived at joint base andrews hours after saying goodbye to friends and family members and those that have been with him throughout his career in delaware as he gets ready to become the 46th president of the United States tomorrow. All of this as President Trump is getting ready to say goodbye. We have a video message coming up in which the president will make clear some of the accomplishments that hes had and relay to the american people, even success for his successor. Kristin fisher