After his very surprising victory that year, there was a lot of talk in the country about who these voters in this silent majority in america could be . Watch this. Trump voters were longsuffering, analysts say often silenced. A lot of people kept quiet about a lot of things. You dont say it to anybody else but you show up and did the voting booth you go trump. They arent an answering the phone and telling people they are voting trump. New numbers tonight, the Cato Institute suggests americans are still an even more so now keeping their politics to themselves, look at these numbers. 62 say that todays climate prevents them from talking about what they believe with anybody. By a large margin, those who identify as a very liberal, this is the group who feels the most free to speak out among friends, family about their politics. What does this tell us about the state of the 2020 race and what does americas growing frustration with canceled culture as an adjunct to that, also my exclusive interview this evening with secretary of state mike pompeo just delivered a blistering message to Chinese Communist leadership calling on the Chinese People to perhaps consider a different path than the con minister government that leads them. We are going to break it down and talk to him about exactly what he said. As china said they arent going to leave the embassy in houston. We will get the secretary of state to respond, digging in their heels at the embassy in moments. Then kt mcfarland is here with her analysis of the pompeo interview, are we in a cold war with china now . Has china been a failed experiment since 1979 . We start tonight with Marc Thiessen and ray hearth, both are fox news contributors, great to have you here tonight. It strikes me every time we have anyone on from the trump campaign, we show them the latest numbers, from michigan, minnesota, pennsylvania, they say we dont care, the polls arent right, theres a lot of secret trump voters out there which we saw in a poll in pennsylvania but it makes it difficult to gauge where the country is at right now. They have probably overstated especially the new fox news polls show a big gap, its probably not as big a gap is the polls show so i dont think democrats should get too excited about it but i think unquestionably there are secret trump voters. There was a monmouth poll in pennsylvania that 57 of voters there were sure some of the neighbors were planning to vote for trump but werent saying it, theres a reason for that, cancel culture has taken hold in a way it hasnt in recent months. Is it more or less hospitable of an environment for a trump supporter to express support for the president now . Bennett was four months ago . I think not. If i think theyre going to vote for him in the ballot box. Martha back in 2173 years ago, that number was at 58 . Weve seen an increase in the people in the country who are just saying im not going to talk about it, im keeping my decision to myself. Every democrat i know is running like joe biden is ten points behind for this exact reason, people were very confident in 2016 at Hillary Clinton would win, we know theres a hidden trump voter then in many of these swing states that the fox news poll spoke to today in michigan and pennsylvania were donald trump won by very little in 2016. Democrats are worried about this, they want to act like they are running from behind. I think these numbers do concern the trump team and i think its a polarized time in the country. There are people on the other side of the aisle who told me democrats hate america and they hate christianity and that kind of language even four or five years ago wasnt out there. Our country is deeply divided, we see that every day and its a real problem. I dont know how to fix it, theres no easy answer. Martha i want to take a look at some of these other numbers, they are disturbing. Lets pull up this one. 32 worry about their jobs because if their political opinions become known, they are concerned they could lose their job. Look at this next one. Do you think its okay to fire someone who supports trump or biden . If at your job it became known that you had given money to joe biden or had given money to trump, they support firing you. 50 of those who consider themselves very liberal think about this they think that person should be fired from their company, that is a very disturbing number. Its insane. It shows how polarized the country has become. Lets keep in mind, i agree there are some republicans that say things that are overwrought about democrats like saying they dont love america, i condemn that spirit the reality is if you look at that pole, republicans are worried about expressing their views than democrats by 25point margin. The only group that feels a majority feel confident saying what they believe are staunch liberals. The reason for that is because there isnt a penalty for being a liberal or expressing staunch liberal views, youre not going to get in trouble at work for saying black lives matter, you will get in trouble for saying blue lives matter. There will be repercussions for that. I think there is this cancel culture going after the write in a way that its not over the left. We should condemn it whether it goes out for conservatives or liberals. Martha i thought deeper in that number come the 62 who say they dont feel comfortable talking about who they support politically, 59 of independents said that. These are the people who elect president s and we dont know which side they are on when we look at that number up at 50 of independents say they did not want to discuss who they will vote for. These numbers are interesting and i agree, disturbing in many ways. Donald trump as an Election Strategy hasnt gone after independence. I dont know where those independents will break, in the polling weve seen, they are breaking towards democrats, they broke towards democrats in 2018. Cancel culture is on both sides. Im not on twitter because i was bullied off of it by conservatives, its on both sides and its not good wherever it is. Get back on twitter, no one should believe you. Martha its disgusting what happens. Thank you very much, lots more to talk about but well pick it up next time. So china, this is a reflection of burning of documents at the consulate in houston, they say they are not going to leave the United States. 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Martha lets start there. They said they do not have plans to leave that consulate right now, what is your response to that . Everyone knows the rules for diplomats, youre only permitted to be there in the diplomatic status with the consent of the host nation. Im confident, weve had private conversations as well, im confident we will proceed in a way that makes clear, its not okay to use diplomats to engage in industrial espionage, its not okay to engage in those kinds of behaviors. Thats the reason we did it, we did it to protect the American People. Martha they say that the United States is abandoning the Vienna Convention and also violating the chinau. S. Consular treaty, you say they violated both of those, what if they say we will not lead, what will the United States do . Im not going to speculate. We are going to make sure we protect the American People. President trump talked about this in 2015 and youre seeing his administration begin to do the things that we will need to make sure the American People are safe and secure and the jobs that depend on American Intellectual property arent lost to theft from chinese diplomats that sit in a place in houston, texas, with great access to scientific knowhow and business value. Martha there is discussion china may retaliate by asking us to leave one of the six embassy we have in china, will we be vacating any of our embassies in china . Lets go back to first principles. First principles are this, for 40 plus years, this is why i am at the Nixon Library today, 40 plus years, america has turned the other cheek while we watched the Chinese Communist party engage in activity thats not fair to the American People, its not reciprocal for the American People, and it doesnt have the transparency we need so we can engage with china in a way thats fair for our people and provide security for our people, thats what we are aiming to do. This decision about the consulate is consistent with a whole bunch of other actions that weve taken and a whole bunch more that we are going to continue to do until we get the change. I talked about president nixon saying the important thing is we could induce change from china, thats the mission that President Trump has set our course on. Whether its the indictments handed down by the department of justice or the decisions we made with respect to hong kong, all of those are aimed at inducing change inside the Chinese Communist party for the sole purpose of protecting the American People. The Chinese Government will get to make its decisions about our different wets inside of china, we will make sure we do right by the American People. Martha it sounds like youre saying this is a ruptured relationship. Am i reading too much in to take from that that we may pull out of embassies in china . It might be part of this proce process. I talked today about actions not words, i was in honolulu a few weeks back, we had a wonderful discussion but in the end, what matters or actions, the things that we make sure protect the American People, President Trumps trade deal was a good first effort, its important if we get that right, it will be the beginning of a basis to expand a fair and reciprocal set of trading relationships. Look at our diplomatic relationship, we have many formats in the United States and their diplomats have much more freedom of movement, much more access that our diplomats do in china. All we are asking is we want it to be fair and reciprocal, that is the aim of President Trump and thats what we are going to accomplish. Martha we talk about sanctions that we have, there are military exercises that have become more prominent in the region, we have two hackers that just received indictments, are we in a cold war right now with china . If we are not, it certainly looks like we are. They have broken promises that are central to how great power nations behave, remember, xi made a promise and 2015, he said he would militarize the south china sea, theres no significant military activity thereby china, is a promise to the people of hong kong, he busted it, he it. The United States has demanded if the Chinese Party wants to be considered in the league of nations that want to have great power and great roles in great importance, they have to behave according to promises that they make in the rules that have been set out for sovereign nations to preserve freedom for their own people, thats what we are seeking to see happen. Label it what you must but President Trump understands previous administrations both republican and democrat to turn the other cheek for an awfully long time and it resulted in a real imbalance in the relationship between the United States and china, we aim to fix it. Martha i spoke to Peter Navarro on this program several weeks back, and said is the trade deal basically over and he said yes, it is he walked that back a bit but it appears that it is, is that fair to say at this point . Im hopeful the phase one trade deal that weve complied with, the Chinese Party tells us theyre going to fulfill our commitments, we have every expectation that they will and our task will be to verify that they have done so. Perhaps there will be an opportunity to build on that. They make a set of promises, they make a commitment like the phase one trade deal and they try and they do a little bit and america calls it good enough. President trump is not going to permit that hes going to hold them accountable for the promises that they make. Martha President Trump just said moments ago that trade deal is not as important to him anymore as it once was. I understand that. I completely understand it. When you see with the Chinese Communist party has done and another set of promises that they made to the world about their responsibility as the pandemic began to break out in the country, the coverup took place, you can understand why a trade deal like the phase one trade deal no longer ranks first among all the various issues we have with the Chinese Communist party. We see trillions of dollars in economic destruction wrought on this world because the Chinese Communist party failed to live up to some basic commitments to the world. Martha you made a very strong appeal to the Chinese People in this speech, calling on them to call for a new form of government in china. Are you encouraging them towards regime change . You said that we would encourage and empower, engage and empower, how will we do that . How will we play that role . What would that look like . I talked about several things, 1. 4 billion Chinese People and what i wanted to make clear, we wanted good things for them. We think thats a good thing, we are trying to contain the prosperity for the people of china. That is the american task, President Trump when he was sworn in and when i was sworn in, thats the promise that we made. What we are concerned about is not Holding China down but making sure we all get this right so we can have a prosperous economy in the United States of america and hold them accountable in ways that preserve and secure freedom for the American People. When i talk about the Chinese People, im talking about making sure that the day have the opportunity to participate on a reciprocal basis in the same way we expect the American People will. Martha it encouraging the pf china to rise up, to creat havee fear that they might be invaded, you look at whats happening in hong kong, those are provocative words to the Chinese Government to say we want your people to push for a new form of government. Thats not what i said, go back and reread what i talked about. This was a speech about the American Perspective and the need for a Global Alliance of freedom loving nations, this is what we are demanding. We know the Chinese Communist party has a different system, they still have obligations to live up to promises, thomas as they make their own people. Our task is to preserve freedom and security for our people and we know we need partners to do that, we need friends i was in london and copenhagen the last few days talking to them about this the whole world is beginning to see that when you bend the knee to china, bad things happen to you. Freedom loving people all around the world must demand that the Chinese Communist party live up to the commitments it makes. You talked a moment ago about your obvious concerns about this virus and the origins of this virus. Today in the United States we passed 4 million cases which is obviously a milestone which is difficult for everybody to hear. Nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house said the president called it the china virus, she said she is calling at the trump virus as a result of the president s handling of this that . We ought not to make a virus that has had such devastation a political matter, or call out the people and places that have resulted in this virus getting out of wuhan, china. We would love to know the answers but sadly the Chinese Communist party has prevented that, we know it came from wuhan, we know they close down Hubei Province but then closed on travel to the rest of the world. That has caused enormous harm to the United States. The virus has emanated from there, make no mistake about it, it is not political, it is factual. Martha secretary of state mike pompeo, thank you very much, good to have you with us this evening. Thank you for your time. Former Deputy National security advisor kt mcfarland on where all of this is leading the United States and china next. I wish i could shake your hand. 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Whether its the indictments handed down by the department of justice or the decisions weve made with respect to hong kong, all of those are aimed at inducing change inside the Chinese Communist party for the simple purpose of protecting the American People. Martha former Deputy National security advisor for the Trump Administration kt mcfarland joins us now, good to see you tonight. Your thoughts on with the secretary of state had to say there. This is a significant interview you just had with him and its a significant event. Heres why its important. 49 years ago this month, Richard Nixon directed his National Security advisor to go to china and open up relations with china, to bring china into the world. I was a young age to Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger at that time. I remember as if it was yesterday. That set American Foreign policy with china in a certain direction for 50 years, he was right. Our thoughts, republican and democrat alike was as china modernizes and comes into the world, they will be an open society, open economy, but thats not how it turned out. The chinese have exploited that and in fact thats why pompeo was at the Nixon Library today, hes indicating we now have a reverse, we are now acknowledging the fact that the chinese have stolen intellectual property rights, have militarized the south china sea, have unleashed a bio weapon onto the world, have practiced wolf diplomacy and we in the Trump Administration, we in the United States are going to have a very different approach to china Going Forward and thats exactly what he was telling you. When he was in copenhagen, or london, he was talking to americas allies about getting the coalition together so they can together stand up to china. Martha what does chinas Coalition Look Like . China has never had many allies, their vision of the world and the worlds they want to impose on the rest of us is china is the superpower, they think the worlds Major Economic medical, military, diplomatic power and china will determine what everybody else does. You step out of line for a minute, you try to challenge china, you try to go against china and you get crushed. The australians for example, they had the temerity to say lets investigate what happens with the pandemic, with the coronavirus and china turned around and tried to crush their exports, their barley and wheat exports to china. They play elbows out sharp, President Trump says they are ruthless in their negotiation. Martha someone say they are buying friends an in latin america and africa, it will be interesting to see if theres a cold war that we are entering. President trump says we must engage with the power of the Chinese People and is careful to say he is not calling for regime change in china and yet you can see these seeds of rebellion in hong kong wanting to stay independent and saying to the rest the world wake up, we can be invaded. I thought that was significant what he told you, he was talking about regime change but he really wasnt talking about regime change. I think the pandemic, hong kong, its been a slap in the face of the world and i think its a wakeup call. We are not criticizing china, the Chinese People. We are criticizing the Chinese Communist party which runs china right now which is accumulated more and more power and is a dictatorship of president xi jinping who is going to be president for life of china. Martha it reminds me of the cold war with russia, even in the space race, thank you very much, great to see you as always. 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Martha the cdc has just released their guidance for reopening schools this fall, the headline this virus poses low risk to students and teachers, therefore face masks and the social distancing are the best defense. The best Available Evidence from countries that have open to schools indicates that covid19 poses low risk to school age children, reopening schools creates opportunity to invest in education and wellbeing and future of one of americas greatest assets, our children, while taking every precaution to protect students, teachers, staff, and all their families. Tonight we are joined by three teachers, Leah Phillips teaches high school english, and first grade special education and teaches middle School Social studies. Let me start with you, teaching kindergartners, how do you feel about the fact that we have some very Young Children who dont even need to do the mask part necessarily . I have a lot of concerns going into the school year. Kindergartners love to share, they love to share toys, they love to share hugs and i love to share germs. I think its going to be really difficult for us to keep masks on kids and a social distance and a small classroom i dont have any windows in my room, so im nervous about how things go this school year. Martha how do you feel about the statistics that show the transmission is very low among children and the risk according to what we see in other countries appears to be very low, studies have been done to show their transmission for other people appears to be very low, that doesnt reassure you . Its reassuring but at the same time, here in the United States, we shut down before we had any chance to spread germs in school. Thats my concern, we dont know. There are other countries that are showing that, but i just worry when we get closer to the fall and the winter with more illness, we are going to see a lot more illness. Martha what do you think about those guidelines . Regarding the guidelines whenever i look at them, its comforting to see that students under age ten, we arent seeing a high transmission but its the number of students over age ten. The New York Times came out with an article that said 10yearolds are spreading it at about the same age as adults. We are working in schools now where the state of pennsylvania, the nurse to mecca student ratio was 1502 max max one. We arent set right now to be able to com combat this virus. Martha right now for flu deaths we are at 30 children under 15 who have died, most of them had complicating factors and obviously no one wants to see any child die from any disease in this country, we want to do everything we can. However, the average over the past ten years of children who died because of the flu every year is 511. We do not shut schools down from november to january every year. Youre absolutely right, we dont shut it down during the flu. My big concerns his students passing it on to educators like myself. Im coming home to a wife and we are expecting our first child, the cdc has pointed out that women who are in their third trimester of pregnancy are in huge risk, i think teachers who are overcoming cancer and other illnesses and for me, i want the economy open just like everybody else, i want to eat meals with my friends, i want to stand next to a student when theyre struggling with something. I dont think youre going to find any teachers who are going to say i dont want to be back in school but my value on human life is much higher than the need to currently open up the Education System in person. Schools didnt close last spring, teachers continue to work tirelessly and we will continue to work this fall. Martha what do you think . I agree with what they are saying especially if i were working with young kids, i would be concerned. I have a nine, four, and 2yearold, i know keeping their hands to themselves can be hard so i emphasize especially with our Elementary School teachers, middle schoolers arent much different in all honesty. Just like phil said, im worried about my High School Kids transmitting at whether its between themselves, giving it to me and me taking at home, giving it to my elderly grandma. I would love to be in school and i would love to see a hybrid work but that takes a lot of work and a lot of resources that not all districts have and are able to do in such a short time. Martha weve had the whole summer, since march to be adapting to this, theres been hundreds of millions of dollars that went out in the care act to get schools ready for this and prepare, one of the things that President Trump said had to do with reallocating money if the schools choose not to open in the face of these guidelines, heres what he said about that. If schools are not reopened, the funding should go to parents to send their child to publicprivate, charter, religious, or homeschool of their choice. Martha some schools will open, should parents have the option to use tax dollars allocated to their child to send them someplace else that is open if they want them in school . I think its a Parents Choice as to where they want their child to go and what they feel would be the best for their family. I know that public Educators Want the best for what their Student Needs and they want them to be safe. No matter what the outcome is, the Community Needs to come together and support the teachers who are trying to do their best. Martha what about Remote Learning . Weve heard a lot about children in urban environments, innercity environments, that Remote Learning has been a failure. Its going to be challenging no matter what and i think the other teachers on this panel agree with me when i would say none of us suggest Remote Learning because its easier or better for students, we all know being in a classroom is the best option. But we are facing an unprecedented time with this pandemic thats killing thousands of people. At this point in the interest of safety, that has to take the top priority, that way we can bring more students into the classro classroom. Martha before i let you go, these studies show that kids are in more danger in school than they are staying home, theres instances of abuse, difficulties at home, things you dont pick up on if you dont get to see that child in school every day, does that danger outweigh the virus . Im not sure you can weigh whats more important, a life or a life filled with pain and abuse. Its a valid point and its a concern in point. I know my colleagues and i are all concerned with but i think there gets to be a point when society in the community has placed too much of a burden on schools to be the police of whats happening, to be the counselors, to do all of these different things. I think the employers, the community, all stakeholders need to have an impact on that and need to step up and fill in the gaps or kids are going to struggle. Martha a lot of people are very concerned, staying home for another semester or god forbid a whole school year, all of the learning could be devastating, it could set a lot of these kids back for a long time. I think you all for your dedication and for sharing your thoughts with us. All the best to you as you head forward. Thank you very much. Coming up, there has been a lot of talk about a Violent Crime surging chicago and new york, but the city of detroit is also seeing a 29 increase in homicides this year. Whether the feds need to protect his city. 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At some point they will come at some point we may have no other choice but to go in. Martha Violent Crime on the rise in detroit, President Trump hinting it could be among the cities that will receive some help from federal officers. Homicides there are up 29 , i think our next guests will tell us its higher than that. Nonfatal shootings are up 52 over the same period last year and over the weekend, there were 33 shooting incidents leaving 26 people injured and seven dead. Charlie lived off is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, always good to see , thank you very much for being here. Whats the answer here . Who needs to come in and help the situation, whats the mayor doing about it . Weve had five Mass Shootings in two weeks, two quadruples, two quintuple, and a nine i dont know what this package is the president is sending, are you sending 100 agents, a thousand . Our own chief of police said he needs another thousand cops at least. Weve entered into agreements atf, fbi, dea, the relationship between the Detroit Police and the dea is rotten, the chief threw them out because of an informant in january who went on a rampage and killed six people. I would like to see some specifics. They had a relationship, now they dont and its a Political Year so im not even buying th this. Martha whats life like in detroit . Whats it like . They are scared and they are angry and they want help. Nobody seriously thinks we should defund the police because as we talked about before, weve already done it and look whats happening. Remember, in the next couple of days, those 600 super unemployment checks run out, then what happens . Martha you heard the president , he talked about sending help. You say the police arent doing their job because they are afraid of the ramifications, you talk about sending in state troopers, what do you think having lived there and worked there, is there a solution thats going to make people safer on the streets . I think we are in for a slog, i think you know it and the country knows it, the police do their jobs, theres not enough police to do it and some are afraid to do it but just last week they pulled 106 guns off of 117 arrestees. Guns are everywhere, what could the governor do . Shes not even talking about it, shes busy tweeting with the president. Madam, put the state police on the major thoroughfares in the city, 7mile, 6mile, let them patrol the main boulevards and so the police can be in the neighborhoods. Thats one way to do it. Weve got more state troopers and the president is sending federal agents. Martha shes way ahead in job performance, 64 . President trump is at 45 in michigan, what do you say that . We dont have a rabid media in this state, i think you notice shes getting a lot of softball questions, she doesnt get good marks for the nursing homes, she has an address that, the senate today voted to take covid positive people out of nursing homes, shes threatening to veto it. I got to go, its all the time i have. Martha come back soon, always good to talk to you, best of luck, more of the story coming up next. Martha you dont want to miss this, i had a great discussion with notre dames coach lou holtz. We had a candid take on leadership, on fear, on returning to sports and school in america, available at foxnewspodcast. Com and thats available until july 23. Have a great night. Hes a good musical tucker good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. The president announced this afternoon that the Republican Party has canceled its traditional nominating convention in florida next month. The reason . Coronavirus. President trump this afternoon my Political Team came to me and laid out our plans for their convention in jacksonville, florida. Its a place i love and all of the state but i looked at my team and i said, the timing for this event is not right, its just not right with what happened. To have the big