Again today or at least in his twitter feed. The president writing, quote mini mike is a 54 mass of dead energy. A tiny version of Jeb Low Energy bush. Firing back saying the president is a carnival barking clown and the feud escalated from there. We all know trump is a bully. I know how to deal with bullies. I come from new york just like him, and im not afraid of donald trump and he knows it. Thats why he keeps tweeting about me. Thank you, donald, keep sending it in. I love it . Yeah, he has money. They spent 2 billion on me, Hillary Clinton and mostly negative ads. And i won. And i won really easily. He is so deficient in so many ways that i think he would be easier than bernie. Ed the president speaking with our own Geraldo Rivera since 1972 no candidate from either party has gone after placing second in iowa and new hampshire. Two States Bloomberg did not even play. In but maybe he is playing by a different set of rules. Thanks to his 60 blt 60 billiondollar empire. Allows entry level workers 60,000 a year and puts them up in furnished arms. Stop and frisk and other matters. He continues to pick up endorsements from leaders in the black community. A demographic clearly up for grabs among 2020 democrats. Is the battle of the billionaires about to explode . Joining me now live Jason Meister a member of the trump 2020 Advisory Board and juan williams, of course, a influence political analyst and cohost o of the five. Thanks for coming. In thanks for having me. Ed a lot of time focused on Michael Bloomberg. Is he concerned about the money he is spending. No. I dont think so. I think President Trump goes after his political rivals. He went after all of them. Going after Mike Bloomberg on twitter is just what the president does. But, look, i dont think Mike Bloomberg really has a chance against President Trump because he is a coastal elitist, okay . He has a lot of money. Is he a successful businessman in his own right and no one can take that from him. You have to connect with the voters in this country. And i dont think bloomberg has what it takes to connect with the voters on in the middle of the country. He will connect with liberals in california. He will connect with liberals in new york, but he is not going to connect with the majority of this country mainly because is he a liberal. He will take their soda and guns. Ed thats your case. He has not done a lot of retail politics. Also questions whether he will connect with black voters. The latest controversy now what he said in 2008 about the hideous practice of red lines. Listen to this. Red lining if you remember was the term where banks took whole neighborhoods and said people in these neighborhoods are poor. They are not going to be able to pay off their mortgages. Tell your sales men dont go into those areas and then congress got involved as local elect officials as well and said thats not fair. These people should be able to get credit. Once you started pushing in that direction, banks started making more and more loans where the credit of the person buying the house wasnt as good as you would like. Ed juan, when he says Congress Said these people should be able to get credit are you comfortable with a potential democratic nominee saying that . No. I think its offensive and also not true. Its not just that minorities were able to get loans. Clearly, if you look at some of the states, i think in specific places like miami or phoenix, a lot of people were buying second homes or flipping homes and they werent minorities. They were people trying to do business. Trying to make some money who had money in their pockets. So, again, to me, its vilification of minorities and offensive. Ed how is he going to connect with black voters. Big thing here is can you beat donald trump . Thats the number one priority for democratic voters and what people see is that the president is attacking Mike Bloomberg because Mike Bloomberg has so much in the way of resources. And i think thats why the president is antagonized and tweeting about him. The president has come up with mini mike and the box to stand on and all the rest because he sees Mike Bloomberg now has the opportunity to move into that centrist lane, given joe bidens stumbles. If he moves into that centrist lane, he sees the same number that you put up, the numbers from quinnipiac that show he is the guy with the best lead over donald trump. Ed real quick the Bloomberg Campaign spokesperson mike saying about red lining that something bad, the financial crisis followed something good, which is the fight against red lining, he was part of as a mayor. He attacked predatory lending as mayor and helped other cities craft Innovative Strategies as a philanthropist and detailed plans for how to help a million more black families buy a house. Do you buy that . I dont buy it. These comments are challenging for bloomberg. And when you look at the africanamerican population in this country and what trump has done for them and that group of people, its tremendous. The Unemployment Rate levels for the blacks and hispanics, i think that President Trump has a real chance to break some serious ground in that Community Come 2020. But i think going back to bloomberg, look, im a new yorker, okay. I can tell you from firsthand as his two terms as mayor and by the way we also had de blasio for two terms and that doesnt say a lot about new yorkers. Doesnt have anything to do with bloomberg. The point im making is that bloomberg really have a nanny state liberal. He cared more about the salt in my hamburger than salting the streets during a blizzard. Thats not going to fly in flyover country. Ed how would a man like this be the savior for the democratic party. Can he be . Juan yeah. Because he can beat trump. Ed how . Juan the number one issue is he according to the polls clearly has an advantage over trump. Is it just a checks . We have heard from days and days now the key here is black voters in the primary. Let juan finish and then i will let you. He is making these comments, remember, the other day someone says to me remember what happened in virginia where you had a governor with black face. Black voters have come back in support of that governor. And i think that you have these offensive comments. I think mayor bloombergs campaign is having to deal with them and speak to them. They are offensive without a doubt. I think he can make up that ground as long as he, given the tremendous amount of money he has, is able to say im your best candidate to beat donald trump. Dont forget all the endorsements that he has been getting. He is getting a tremendous amount of endorsements from black look at what juan is saying. He is saying its about the checkbook. Right . He has the resources. You have a broken party. You have a selfacclaimed socialist on one hand. Who has done very well in iowa and in new hampshire. And you have mayor bloomberg, with all the checkbook resources he has. This party is completely broken. And there is no centrist place in the Democrat Party today and thats why i think bloomberg is going to juan i think he is a centrist. He may be a centrist. He is a nanny state liberal. He will say to donald trump im the real billionaire in this race. I built a business. What are you doing . Ed the democratic party, juan, final point, has spent so much time challenging the president on race. How do you do that if Michael Bloomberg is your nominee. I think easily. Ed after red lining comments and stop and frisk. Those are the specific issues that Michael Bloomberg has to deal with the black community. Dont have any confusion here. You ask black voters. Dont ask jason or me, ask black voters you can see its 90 opposition to donald trump. Ed last point . Trump in 2016 got more of the Africanamerican Community voting for him than both romney and mccain combined. I think that number will get even further in 2020 because of what he has done in the Africanamerican Community. Ed we shall see. Jason, juan, we appreciate you both come in. In the meantime attorney general william barr standing his ground tonight after being attacked relentlessly in intervenes in roger stones sentencing recommendation. Im not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody and i said whether its congress, loose paper, editorial boards or the president. Im going to do what i think is right. Ed republican mark meadows still ahead on that along with Eric Swalwell who is leaving the door open on a whole new impeachment probably. [sneeze and sniffles] are you ok . Yah, its just a cold. 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Consider in just 24 hours the death toll dropped 25 pourntion from 1113 to 1367. The number of cases worldwide also skyrocketed, jumping more than 59,000. That is up 15,000 in a single day. The World Health Organization says this does not represent a surge of new infections, but, rather, a new way of counting. Previously confirmation of the illness could only come from the Laboratory Test results. Now the standard has been lowered to clinical diagnosis, meaning a doctor using a lung imaging machine can also declare that a patient has coronavirus. The hope here is to identify cases faster and then treat them faster. Experts say the numbers also reflect a crush of people in china seeking treatment. Meantime here in the u. S. , the 15th case of coronavirus has now been confirmed. Its also the first case in texas. The new patient was among a group of evacuees already under federal quarantine at Lack Land Air Force Base near san antonio. That group recently took a trip to wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak. The centers for Disease Control and prevention says the risk to the general public remains very low. But there will likely be additional cases among those who have come back from woulwuhan. Watch. We are still within the potential incubation period for coronavirus for people coming out of wuhan in city in china. We continue to monitor these passengers every day. Twice a day with temperature checks. 14 other cases are in california, wisconsin, arizona, massachusetts, illinois, and Washington State where the first case was diagnosed. We should note that man has already been released from the hospital. Ed . Ed Trace Gallagher, thank you. President trump meanwhile demanding new york stop harassing him with unnecessary lawsuits. Just moments before coming facetoface with the states governor. Acting Homeland Security secretary chad wolf was inside that meeting. Joins me exclusively on the showdown next. 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New York Governor Andrew Cuomo amid intensifying feud over new yorks green light law grants drivers licenses to undocumented immigrants and grants u. S. Customs and border protections from accessing the data base. We speak exclusively with chad wolf who was inside the meeting. But first to White House Correspondent kevin corke with the details. Good evening, kevin. Good evening, ed. Good to be with you. It is so important to point this out this all stems from the feds decision to cancel new yorkers access to entry because of the states decision to issue drivers licenses to noncitizens and, again, restrict the access to that information by dhs and other federal agencies. And the new yorkers say this is really costing them and i mean big time. Look it, they say 50,000 individuals have been conditionally approved for global entry. Well, thats not going to happen now. 30,000 currently pending and get this, 175,000 could see their privileges expire and not be able to reenroll unless something has happened here between the two sides. Governor cuomo held a News Conference before leaving for washington in its meeting with the president today. He insists that there is no other reason for dhs to suspend the trusted traveler and global entry programs. Other than politics. Its all politics. And its retaliation and its reprisal because it really upset that we give licenses to undocumented people. Thats why we have our license program. But, if they think they are going to extort new york into giving them the database of undocumented people, theyre wrong. I will never do that. Says he will never do that. The white house remains defiant tonight calling this a matter of Public Safety and simply making sure that trusted travelers are, in fact, properly vetted. I think that its unfortunate that they are calling making this about politics. This is about the security of our country and the American People and nothing else. Information sharing is very, very important between states and the federal government specifically dhs and ice. Stephanie grisham speaking there the governor has said, ed, he would be willing to amend this idea of access to some information and some material but he says if they cant figure out a way to make this all work, they might even sue. Ed, back to you. Ed kevin corke, thank you. Here now exclusively chad wolf, the acting secretary of Homeland Security. Mr. Secretary, thanks for coming. In thank you, ed. Ed you just heard the democratic governor. He says you are guilty of extortion. I think thats just totally inaccurate. This is about security and its not about politics. I have been absolutely clear with the governor and any other new york state individual or lawmaker that i talk with. Cvp needs access to this data base to run their security checks on trusted travelers. Its that plain and simple. There is no politics about it. They cut off access. We need it back to totally vet these individuals. Ed the Sheriffs Association here in new york state seems to be backing you i want to point out. They say to the governor our inability under the through share this dmv data with federal immigration officers vernon dyes the safety of those police officers. We find it offensive that in order to avail our own deputies of this dmv data that they need for their own safe operations we were coerced into signing a nondisclosure agreement with jeopardizes the safety of our federal partners. We have seen police officers, as you know, Law Enforcement all around this country targeted. We see it all the time. Is this adding to that . How desperate is the situation . I believe is. What we have seen over the last week or so is a number of Law Enforcement officials come out against this all because of you who dangerous it is. Again, it restricts information sharing with dhs across the board. Again, thats not only for trusted temporarily programs that we are talking about here. Also for Customs Enforcement and National Security and Law Enforcement purposes. An individual coming into the country cvp officers need this information to determine is this a legitimate person coming in or do we need to take a closer look at that we are only able to do that if we share information. So after 9 11 this is what 9 11 was all about. One of the Lessons Learned was we need to share information. We need to tear down these silos. We dont need to be building these up to keep information from Law Enforcement officials. Ed we mentioned, pardon me, that the president was tweeting about how he wants to get rid of these lawsuits, new york state coming after him in various ways. The governor did an interview where he went further. And not just attacking the president but going after you. Listen. You are knocking on the door saying i will burn down the house if you dont give me entry . I will give you entry. For the ttp enrollees on the casebycase basis. Dont burn down the house. They said im burning down the house anyway. All right . So now theyre just arsonists. Ed how do you respond to that . I would say im not sure why you passed the law to begin with. Passed law back july 19 and took effect in december. They clearly knew the impacts of this and im not sure that they really fully understood it. So we continue to work with. They look, we want to find a solution to this. The solution requires them to turn on access so we can vet trusted travelers. I have been very clear about that. I will continue to be very clear about that. This is about Law Enforcement. This is about security. This is about the ability to connect those dots and to share that information. And, again, its tickly interesting coming from new york. Again, from where 9 11 occurred. We want to make sure that we share information and not continue to withhold information. Ed safety paramount, no doubt. You might also be interested in when you talk about new york officials coming after you, alexandria ocasiocortez, the congresswoman, is tweeting tonight trump is publicly admitting that he is Holding Global entry for new yorkers hostage in exchange for dropping lawsuits against him and his families lawbreaking behavior. Those are her words. This is corrupt, illegal and authoritarian. I hope collins and murkowski are proud of their votes. Of course referring to the impeachment trial not guilty. Susan collins learned lessons about quid pro quos. How do you respond to this one. This is their talking point. They keep bringing it back to talking points. It has to do with security. The president understands that i believe the governor understands that which is why he is now allowing access or at least providing that option for us to vet trusted travelers. So, its beyond politics. Its about security. And whether dhs has the ability to do their job or not. And, again, we see a number of states. We have five other states that are withholding information from dhs. Its a very dangerous precedent that were setting here and the department, again, needs this information new york is the only state and i think that bears repeating the only state that prohibits informationsharing with both ice and cvp officials trying to do their job. Law enforcement, customs, and vetting trusted travelers. The only state. Ed those officials have an important job keeping this country safe you do as well. We appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Ed the senate today voting to limit President Trumps authority to take military action against iran. 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Ed President Trump just this week touting the killing of iranian terror leader Qassem Soleimani who was killed in a drone strike ordered by the commanderinchief just last month. Today though the Senate Passed a measure to prevent the president from taking similar action in the future passing a new war powers resolution by vote of 55 to 45. My next guest voted no on that measure republican senator kevin cramer from north carolina. He joins me live now. Senator, thanks for coming in. My pleasure. Thank you, ed. Ed what is your biggest fear about this measure. My biggest fear i think it actually weakens the United States position and certainly weakens the president s hand as he deals with iran and others, frankly, in the region. The other thing about it, while its a good discussion to have as we talk about article 1 powers, separation of powers. What the constitution says about who has the power to declare war, the president hasnt declared war. Soleimani was shot and killed while he was in iraq. It was in response to recent events that took the life of americans and tried to take the life of many more in our embassy. It was justified. I think this resolution frankly does more to embarrass the president than it does to make americans safer. And, i think it could have the unintended consequence of demoralizing troops who need to know the president can have their back. Ed in fact, didnt democrats after the president took out this terror leader, we heard democrats suggesting it was a bad idea. It was going to backfire, blow up in our faces and spark a war with tehran that never materialized . In fact, just the opposite happened. And it diest can a late. Remember, any escalation in the conflict between the United States and iran has been at the hands of iran. And, in fact, President Trump was quite patient with iran when they took out, you know, took out our drone, you might recall. He didnt respond when at least didnt respond with any, you know, kinetic action. Same when they fired at other assets, whether its ships in the straits or. Ed he considered airstrikes, as you know and pulled back. They didnt pull back which was appropriate. When they crossed that line of taking a human life, an American Life and attacking our embassy, and, remember, too, that he was in iraq. He was not in iran. I think all of that is justified and i think some of the people who voted for the resolution believe it was justified. I heard mike lee say that in fact on fox news earlier today. But, what were doing with this resolution, i mean, we are not at war with iran. I dont think were likely to be at war with iran it. Really restates what the constitution already says and the constitution is more than adequate to, you know, to that task. Because what do we do every other country pass amuf resolution on canada or, you know, north korea . You know, w we shouldnt preempt the constitution. Ed why didnt mike lee and others join you. Mike lee, rand paul and others in a republican led senate as you know challenged the president. Why . So, i think, ed, because there is a lot of pent up frustration with the general issue of war powers. The fact that we continue to take action based on 2001 and 2002 amufs, those are reasonable positions. They are reasonable frustrations. And we ought to have a reasonable discussion about them. I just dont like it in the context of this conflict that we have right now. Because there is so much at stake in the middle east, including iran. Ed absolutely. Particularly iran and the other countries. To me it was a matter of context. Ed senator, i have 30 seconds left. Sure. Ed the president going back to 2016 promised to end socalled wars. Mike lee and others saying they want to see afghanistan end. County president still get there while still protecting america and make sure its not a terrorist safe haven. It depends on what you think end means. We had a hearing this week on afghanistan in the Armed Services committee. I think its clear that to keep it safe we are doing much less in afghanistan, you know, with u. S. Troops and much depending much more on afghan troops. We need to continue that but we cant completely pull out and leave all the important work thats already been done. Ed absolutely. Go backwards. Ed we still have thousands of troops as you note in harms way. You are tackling a big subject tonight. Thanks for coming in and talking about it . My pleasure. Ed william barr defending his role in the ronk stone case while urging the president to stop tweeting about it. Plus, new pleas from democrats to get behind anybody but bernie. Man sneezes skip to the good part with alkaseltzer plus. Now with 25 more concentrated power. Nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. Oh, what a relief it is so fast and i like to question your im yoevery move. N law. Like this left turn. Its the next one. 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Ed the possibility of having a democratic socialist at the top of the president ial ticket being met with push back tonight from some skiddish democrats who fear Bernie Sanders stands no chance of beating President Trump the Washington Post columnist matt boot saying democrats please do the right thing and coalesce quickly around one of the three moderates, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar or Mike Bloomberg. Who is still standing. The future of our democracy might depend on it. Here now guy benson host of the guy benson show and fox news contributor. Good evening, guy. Hey, ed. Ed this freakout thats playing out is fascinating to watch because in part they are saying get a moderate to look at Amy Klobuchar. If you look at her Senate Voting record quite liberal. Compared to Bernie Sandersnot that liberal. And in the case of Pete Buttigieg he says he would be the most progressive president ever yet they are trying to call him a moderate. Its all relative. Relative to Bernie Sanders a socialist, many people are moderates. I think most of these people are in fact quite liberal. You are definitely right about that ed. This whole freakout is fascinating for more than one reason to believe. One of them is its getting me ptsd and these flashbacks to four years ago where i remember lots of things that i wrote and tweeted and said about consolidation and if we dont consolidate someone will get the nomination. I was very much a critic of then candidate trump. All these match chi mat chin na. A lot of peoples second choice was actually donald trump. I think sometimes elites getting all concerned and telling people what has to happen it doesnt work out quite that will i had he had ed its interesting you say that in the end donald trump got the nomination and won the presidency. When Speaker Pelosi was pressed about all of this today. She said what, me, worry . Watch. We are calm, cool and collected. This is not just because some people may be speaking out about not liking one candidate or another. Thats the democratic way. Its politics. Its a messy business. Ed is this right . That this might play out for democrats or might be more nervous than she is letting on. Calm, cool and collected so much so that she is ripping up pages of the state of the union address. Thats nancy. Look, i think that if she had her way, she would absolutely want to help nudge voters away from Bernie Sanders. You hear the freakout from not just columnists like matt boot max boot who used to be a conservative and now is a liberal. He used to tell conservatives how to think. Now is he telling liberals how to think and vote. Ed because he doesnt like the president. Right. I think pelosi is looking at this situation and saying maybe its not useful for me to weigh in on this. Let people decide what theyre going to do. Dont put my thumb on the scale but some of her members, some of those moderate members who are majority makers, they are blabbing to reporters all over this town saying we cannot have bernie at the top of the ticket or i am totally cooked. She definitely knows that but she recognizes, i think, that the establishment going too hard against a guy like bernie could actually strengthen him and again thats the trump effect. Ed give him more fuel, perhaps. Finally, speaking of freakouts. Interesting whats happening in nevada where you have the caucuses coming up. Its the next business contest for democrats and the Culinary Union is so powerful. Restaurant workers, casino workers, the rest. And interesting that you might think they would be for Bernie Sanders and who keeps talking about working people. But they came out today in las vegas and said were not going to endorse anyone because, in part, some of their members are freaking out. Bernie sanders government for all e government healthcare might take away their generous cadillac Healthcare Plan that they have gotten private health insurance. People on the left saying hey lets have medicare for all. It will be great for you. And Union Workers are saying wait a second. Thats not better than i have now. Not might, would. Medicare for all, single pair healthcare would eliminate the Healthcare Plans of these Union Workers. So there are two really interesting things happening with this nonendorsement from the Culinary Union. Number one, they are, i think, driving home and underscoring the massive Political Risk of single pair healthcare, medicare for all. 180 Million People would be uprooted from the healthcare that they have. Most people are satisfied with the healthcare that they have. Including these Union Workers. Bernie sanders and aoc and liz warren and that whole crowd say no, the wand is waived. The government takes over. Thats all gone. The other thing is bernie bros, some of his hard core supporters were so angry about them these facts about healthcare they swarmed them with threats and all sorts of intimidation. That really ticked off the union guys. Good work, bernie bros. Ed it may backfire not just in nevada but in other places where he needs Union Support and its going to be interesting to watch it. Guy benson, we appreciate you coming. In you bet. Ed in the meantime attorney general william barr comes out blazing against some of those attacks like this. The attorney general has stupid to such levels. Has has stooped to such levels, lied to congress. He will be in contempt. He has engaged in these activities. What a sad disappointment to our country. Ed well, republican congressman mark meadows you see him there. He has something to say about that. So does democrat Eric Swalwell. Is he leading the door open to another impeachment probe. That is next. We made usaa insurance for members like martin. 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The fact that the tweets are out there and correspond to things we are doing at the department sort of give grist to the mill and thats why i think its time to stop the tweeting about department of justice criminal cases. Ed here now republican congressman mark meadows a member of the House OversightCommittee Key ally of the congressman thanks for coming in. Great to be with you, ed, thanks. Ed the attorney general seems to be saying directly to the president stay out of this. You know, its real easy for the attorney general to opine on the president s social media tactics but the very fact that we are talking about roger stone and the fact that the original sentencing guidelines from the doj were inappropriate was highlighted by the president of the United States. That being said, general barr is doing a good job of trying to restore the confidence in the department of justice and fbi. After a debacle in the whole Mueller Investigation and so, i know that he will call the balls and strikes as he already has. But ultimately, the president is right to call out this injustice. Ed i believe you see its an injustice. You are looking backward at the fbi and the Justice Department before. What about looking forward in the attorney general seems to be sending a message to the president who nominated him. I cant do my job if you are going to interfere . Well, listen, is he not interfering. What he did was make a comment about what he saw was wrong. And so there is no interference. In fact, in that particular lead. In general barr was saying that they have not discussed this and that that was not part of it. And so, he is not actually interfering in that. But the other important thing is we do have to look backwards. We have to look at the context of the last three years of a truly partisan investigation that was based on conspiracies that were not actually there and, yet, you hear Eric Swalwell talking about he wants to do another impeachment based on this . Listen, they have a difficult enough time getting an app. To count votes in iowa let alone trying to weigh in on this. Ed we will give the congressman, Eric Swalwell, who is here standing by a chance to respond to that in a moment. In the meantime, here is Speaker Pelosi demanding a new investigation. Watch. We also saw the president this week demonstrate once again he has no respect for the rule of law. This is the abuse of power that the president is again trying to manipulate federal Law Enforcement to serve his political interest. A. G. Barr has deeply damaged the rule of law by withdrawing the dojs sentencing recommendation. This must be investigated. Ed how do you respond to the speaker . The speaker loves to criticize general barr loves to double down on criticism of President Trump. She has been consistent in both of those things. Here is the interesting thing is as she looks at it and we are talking about the rule of law. What about the fisa abuse and the hearings that should come out of that . What about what we have had with Inspector General horowitz . There is not a single hearing on capitol hill. They turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to all of that. So if we want to get to the bottom of it and help ag barr actually restore confidence. Lets actually do that and start getting to the bottom of what went wrong with all the fisa abuse. Ed to your point john durham as you know u. S. Attorney from connecticut is taking a look at all of that. We will see what he does and does not do in the months ahead. In the meantime, last question. Its not just Speaker Pelosi pressuring the president. John kelly, as you know, his former chief of staff gave a speech where he talked about colonel vindman among other things he said we did exactly what we teach them to do from cradle to grave. He went and told his boss what he just heard. He is talking about ukraine. The president s former chief of staff is suggesting that some of these firings are sending a chilling message. How do you respond . Well, general kelly is wrong about that. I happen to be in seven hours of deposition with Lieutenant Colonel vindman. He didnt go to his boss. He didnt go to the chain of command. He picked up the phone and called someone else outside of the nsc. So with all due respect to general kelly is he just wrong okay Lieutenant Colonel vindman. The president was right to have him escorted how. There needs to be others that need to be escorted out as well. Ed congressman mark meadows we appreciate you coming in. Thank you. Ed eric fall well is a member of the house judiciary committee. Thanks for coming. In the bus is going to need a wheel alignment. Everyone keeps getting thrown under it. All these heroes of the trump administration. John kelly, bill barr, now they are the villains. This is a theme we see. Ed your name was invoked by congressman meadows. You get a chance to respond. What i have said all along just because the president has acquitted doesnt mean we wont use the toolts we have to hold him accountable. When we launched the investigation, ukraine got the aid. We did it to hold him accountable. We wanted future president s to know that the standard was not lowered. We also learn when you check the president , the right thing ends up happening. So were not taking any of our options off the table. None of us wake up to work on impeachment. If the president is listening, we want to work with you on prescription drugs, background checks and infrastructure. I would strike a deal on any of those. Ed we will get to impeachment and other issues of the day. Here is the president today with our own Geraldo Rivera talking about the roger stone case. He said what they did to roger stone was a disgrace. We actually have the sound. Lets do it. What did they did to roger stone was a disgrace in terms of everything. Right from the beginning. 29 fbi agents loaded up with the most powerful rifles and machine guns. Ed congressman, its been pointed out people sometimes get convicted for rape in this country and get four or five years in prison. He is going to get nine years in prison . How is that fair . He lied to congress and kept updating his story by sending letters. Ed is lying to congress worse than raping somebody. Im not going to compare his case to a rapist case. Ed should compare a. M. S to a. M. S. If you get four to five years for raping someone. Lying to congress to be clear how can you get 9 years for that or 4 to 5 years for raping someone. Anyone who gets 420to5 years for raping someone is wrong. I would speak out b. Against it. He falls within the guidelines. I think the reason the prosecutors are arguing for the sentence is, one, we reward people who accept responsibility early in the proceeding. If you go to trial and remember, he didnt just go to trial. He was posting, you know, threats towards the judge during the trial and he had to be admonished for that i think this should fall under the judges discretion and prosecutors should be able to make the recommendation without the president interfering. Ed the judge can overrule the president and attorney general and still do nine years or told by andy mccathy and other analysts even more than nine years. Whats the controversy about if the judge can overrule anyone anyway. The president can still pardon him. Ed down the road. Show me a time bill barr overruled a prosecutor this kid get disproportionately high sentence for crack cocaine. Ed pardon me, the federal judge here, regardless of what you attack with william barr the usage can still say i want nine years, right . Yes. Ed finally, impeachment, if you are upset about this and you dont think the president should intervene in the roger stone case, how could it rise to the level of Impeachable Offense . Didnt we just go through that. Im saying we are going to investigate this thats what were doing on judiciary committee. We check him corruption. What we could see is the president could pardon roger stone that would be wrong. The fact that he is not doing that and instead trying to show us the power that he has that he can affect the department of justice with his corruption. Ed dont know if he is going to pardon him or not. We heard that as well about manafort. Again and again. Democrats said he is going to pardon manafort. He never did. I think this is worse. Is he actually trying to have the department of justice do his dirt work because now you have infected a, you know, a department that is supposed to be independent with the president s corruption. Ed when you said a moment ago and just said it again. Corruption by the president. When, in fact, the judge can still send roger stone to jail for nine years. How is it corruption . The prosecutors recommendation has great weight with the judges. And the prosecutor, and if you can help a friend, you also have prosecutors who can hurt your enemy. And the fact that the president would do either is what should be concerning for all. Ed we will see how it plays out. Congressman, we appreciate you coming in today. Thank you. Ed that is the story for thursday, february 13th, 2020. But, as always, the story continues. I will see you again tomorrow morning on americas newsroom at 9 00 a. M. We will also be back here. I will be filling in for martha tomorrow night 7 00 p. M. We will see you tomorrow night on the story. Tucker good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. America is a great country precisely to the extent that its a fair country. Fairness is the most important american idea. Its the foundation of all others and equality before the law is the purest expression of it. Thats why the roger stone case ought to horrify anyone who has followed it. Left or right, republican or democrat, doesnt matter. Nine years in jail for lying. Thats what prosecutors have demanded that roger stone receive. How disproportionate is that sentence . Lets put it this way. James clapper and john brennan are both confirmed purge errors, they did it in public. They will