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Him through the socalled murder board process of questioning. This is to get ready for monday. Sources say that he has solid and that there was no wavering in his unequivocal denial of these allegations. Senator john kennedy is set to ask questions come monday. Hes going to join us in just a moment. Ed henry live at the white house with the breaking details this evening. Good evening. Good to see you. Its interesting that one of those potential witnesses could be christina brenda king. Earlier she told nbc news that she is a classmate of dr. Ford and had heard about this incident many years ago but then later put on social media that she doesnt have firsthand knowledge of such an incident. Very confusing about whether any of these potential witnesses will add anything new or corroborate anything. What white house post special bullies is really going on is that democrats are moving the goal post. Chuck grassley today saying on sunday when the washington riposte report of the story, the push for democrats was dr. Ford needs to be heard. Republicans say they are trying to let her be heard monday at the hearing, but shes adding all of these new conditions. So what republicans believe is all of this is a push for an fbi investigation that will never happen, so ultimately its just trying to delay all of this process beyond the midterms. The key tonight is that three republican swing votes, not always supportive of the president , are all calling for dr. Ford to testify. Insisting she should appear monday. A corker saying if she doesnt show, the senate should go forward with a vote on capital. Collins of pivotal vote. My understanding that the committee has offered to hold either public or private session, whichever would make her more comfortable contradicting a claim for democrats that dr. Ford is being pressured or forced into public testimony. As chairman grassley made clear today they are doing everything they can to make it as easy as possible for her to come forward. Watch. Where im focused right now is doing everything that we can to make dr. Ford comfortable with coming before a committee either in an open session or a closed session, or a public, or a private interview. It rings true to me how she has divulged it, who she is divulged into overtime, over many years and what they are forcing on her right now i think is inappropriate. Senator mazie hirono from hawaii said yesterday mentor just shut up. Seem to reveal the real democratic strategy. Since republicans blocked their garland for over year, if kavanaugh failed, democrats may hold this high court seat open for two years beyond the 2020 election. Publicans i spoke to tonight say that suggest to them that democrats are getting desperate and that maybe kavanaugh is in better political shape but frankly tonight, nobody knows where the story is going. Martha and monday is a long way away in this new cycle. Thank you very much. Senator john kennedy, one of the 11 republicans who sit on the Senate Judiciary committee. Good evening, good to have you with us. I want to read from a statement from dr. Fords attorney. Part of it says there are multiple witnesses whose names have appeared publicly and should be included in any proceeding, the rush is unnecessary and contrary to the committee discovering the truth. Your reaction to that . I think you have to put all of this in context. Originally, dr. Ford wanted to remain anonymous. Then she changed her mind and contacted the Washington Post and gave them the story. Then she asked us to hold a hearing. It weve to hold a hearing. Then she changed her mind and said i dont want a hearing, i want an fbi investigation. Senator grassley, who has demonstrated extraordinary leadership again reached out to her and said we will do it anyway you want. We have to have a hearing, thats the way that it works. We will send somebody out to see you. And now dr. Ford has changed the conditions again. Martha as ed henry said, feeling on the republican side of the committee that they are continually moving these goal post. I guess one of the questions becomes who gets to run this process . Does she get to run the process or do you all get to run the process . And as you point out, youve given multiple opportunities, but is there any effort underway to bring some of these witnesses and for monday . Is that a condition you would consider meeting for her . We broke senate wrote a call and senate rules to hold this hearing. The confirmation process is over. The hearing is over. The confidential meeting with judge kavanaugh is over. The written question submission time, over. The fbi investigation, over. All that was left was to vote. We have broken the rules and protocol by having the hearing at her request. Martha i get what youre saying. I want to play this from your colleague in the senate, mazie hirono, who spoke out about you and others who she feels heres what she said about you, watch. I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee believe me, because we all signed onto this letter to demand an fbi investigation, but really, guess whos perpetuating all of these actions . Its the men in this country and i just want to say to the man in this country, just shut up and step up. Do the right thing. For a change. Martha for a change, she says. What do you have to say to that . I have Great Respect for that senator. I am a man, but im who the people of louisiana sent to the United States senate. If she is unhappy with that, i guess she needs to talk to the people in louisiana. In the meantime, ive got to do my job. Were trying to do the right thing. I dont know what more we can do, the goalposts, somebody put it earlier, keep moving. Im not interested in more political or cultural combat. Im interested into things. Im interested in truth and im interested in fairness. And we are trying. We are trying. Martha understood. Joy behar basically said the same thing. I dont know if you are a big watcher of the view, so i will play it for you just in case you missed it. These people in congress right now, that Senate Judiciary committee, these white men, old, by the way. They are not protecting women. Protecting a man who is probably guilty. If youre not judge kavanaugh, take the lie detector test. Martha what you say about that, senator . Im sorry she feels that way. I dont agree with her. Our job is to protect the american people. Our job is to advise and consent. It doesnt say anything in the constitution about the fbi advising and consenting or the media, no disrespect, advising and consenting. Its up to us and were trying very, very hard to hold a hearing as dr. Ford requested and give her a chance. But she keeps moving the goalposts and all i can say is i hope she comes monday. I think it will be a huge mistake if she doesnt. Im asking her if shes listening to attend. Assure her she will be treated fairly, but if she doesnt want to attend, thats up to her. We will even do it privately if she wants. Martha we know senator grassley has offered for staffers to go california to take a statement from her. Lots of different options. Thank you very much. We will be watching with great interest as we head towards monday. Joining me now, carrie severino, chief counsel and policy director, a group that has poured millions of dollars into supporting judge kavanaugh and richard fowler, syndicated radio host and fox news contributor, welcome to both of you. Good to have you here. Richard, you said earlier today, this is why the g. O. P. Has problems with white suburban women. What did you mean by that . This is what i mean. What you saw take place in the end of your head if you are the segment started with the republicans not getting when it comes to these cases. In the Clarence Thomas case, george h. W. Bush ordered the fbi dual report. If that report came back inconclusive and judge thomas was put on the bench. Lets be very clear here. Republicans kept this judicial seat open for a year. Why cant we wait three more days to have the fbi investigate this . Martha the word is that the fbi feels like this doesnt fall into their purview. It was a totally different situation with anita hill because the accusations had not yet been made public. In this case, the Washington Post printed all of the accusations. Those have artie been out there. So it is not actually the same thing. The one thing i will say is our constitution guarantees due process. Martha absolutely. For that to happen it has to be impartial. What you have in the Senate Judiciary committee is half democrat, half republican, everybody sort of chomping at the bit. Martha waiting to hear from her on monday. We could get an independent investigation and let those professionals come to their conclusion. Martha what do you think . I think the comparison, if you look at what happened with the investigation with anita hill after her story came out and as you said, the fbi for the confidential part of it. After it came out the fbi did not do further investigation. Thats when they went to a hearing. Because the information was out there, the senator, now its their role to do the advice and consent process. The fbi had completed its background information. They even had followup calls with the senators to go over the new information. Guess how Many Senate Democrats were on that call . Zero purity theyre saying they want an investigation. Theyre saying they want the fbi but they are not even participating in it as it is happening before them. I think its important to have a hearing. I think senator collins is correct. Theres lots of options that senator grassley has offered here. You can do it in a confidential setting as well and i think that would be great. I think it would be great if the Senate Democrats had followed the proper procedure, she wouldnt be in this position right now because they could have done it. Whats the rush on getting this nominee that we cant waste three days for a proper investigation to be done . Everybody is saying that has to be let me finish. You say it has to happen monday, it has to happen monday. What happens if it happens on tuesday . That the argument that a lot of folks are making here. Whats the big rush . If hes innocent, like he says he is, that both sides should be heard tell of the process take its course. Martha i think the argument is that what she has to offer is what he has to offer, which is their recollections and their story. Thats whats at stake here. At 36 years old i agree. Martha unsubstantiated in terms of times in place so what they each have to bring to the table is their own story. And hes ready to do that. And she should also do that. Its very hard for someone to come forward and tell their story. On both sides. Due process is very important here. Martha thats why theres the privacy option. I dont understand what is the big deal martha i dont know whats going to change three days from now. Gary, go ahead. George w. Bush got it. Thats the opposite of what happens. That investigation was before him. Wasnt there were reports done by the fbi . It was done before this was leaked by the Senate Judiciary committee. Not in conjunction with the hearing. At the hearings were a separate thing because of the leak. At least say lets move it to tuesday. What are we going to learn between monday and tuesday . We dont know exactly when it happened or where it happened. You cant just for prince you cant find that out anyway by asking her. Thats the challenge here and thats what can happen in a hearing. Unfortunately they are creating a new process. Where we started this segment of why white suburban women are looking at this very carefully is because we are having a debate and we should be having a moral debate and a debate about due process and instead were having one it was done, how it was done, when it was leaked. And thats part of the problem. Martha his integrity is also at stake here. You have to get both of them an opportunity to step forward and say what is on their mind and to explain their story. It is not fair to him it has to be fair to both sides. I agree. Martha i think suburban women across america care about that a whole lot too. We are going to leave it there. Its not fair because shes not getting a chance to get the fbi investigation that she deserves. Martha i think women are about fairness on all sides, not just for women, for men and for women. Due process should be on both sides. On the mother of sons and daughters, i think they both reserve respect. You are preaching to the choir. Martha thank you both, good to see you. Coming up next, is this proof of the deep state . President trump has been complaining about. Listen to this. Jason chaffetz, who literally wrote the book on the deep state says that this is more widespread than you think. Its a continuation of what we talked about last night, stick around. Take us downtown, waze. Waze integration seamlessly connecting the world inside. With the world outside. Making life a little. Easier. Introducing the wellconnected lincoln mkc. Whoever came up with the term Small Business, never owned a business. Are your hours small . What about your reputation . Is that small . 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Martha here now, jason chaffetz, former chairman of the House Oversight committee and a fox news contributor. Also the author of the new book the deep state. Good to see you tonight, jason. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Martha we always take these videos with a little bit of a grain of salt. Theres 2 million federal employees, which month stomach some people might think sounds like a rather large number. So many of them serve well and earnestly. How widespread do you think is kind of behavior and taking advantage of the system is . 2 million people, most of them are patriotic, they are hardworking people. But there is a concerted effort, this brazen group of people that want to attack donald trump and his agenda. They are democrats by and large and they like bigger government. They are not off in some corner with some tinfoil hats and some conspiracy. They literally will fight back by leaking information. The video that you saw, the person said i essentially cant get fired, which is true. Martha thats also part of the problem. We had a situation where the Ranking Member and i jointly the whole committee on oversight recommended that this person be prosecuted because they lied to congress and Jeff Sessions and the attorney generals office, they said no. And how does it get any more even where bipartisan saying this person is lying, you still cant get fired. Martha its unbelievable. Speaking of Jeff Sessions, here is President Trump talk about his attorney general, he says he actually doesnt have an attorney general, but here he is talking about it today, watch. Im disappointed in the attorney general for numerous reasons, but we have an attorney general. Im disappointed in the attorney general for many reasons, and you understand tha that. And telling you, one of the worst experiences i had my eight and a half years in congress, chairman of the oversight committee, was meeting with Jeff Sessions. I think hes an attorney general in name only. I was very disappointed. I went over and i explained to him that we had this person, twice he was issued a subpoena by congress, twice he didnt show up and we held him in contempt and he should have been prosecuted for nonattendance on the committee he looked me in the eye and told me im not going to do that because its too close to Hillary Clinton. And that is not equal justice under the law. And he did that time after time after time and its not just him. It is the bureaucracy of 110,000 people at the department of justice and thats why i finally wrote a book about it because its chockfull from the epa to the department of justice to the state department. You name it. Martha it so shocking because what you hear from the Justice Department and from the fbi as well and again, this isnt concerning everybody who works at these places, is that they are outside of politics, that they are looking at everything with the sort of unbiased i, that they are representing the justice that exist in the Justice Department, but once you say that, that person is too close to Hillary Clinton, that whole notion is absolutely out the window. Its obviously political. It was political and that he looked me in the eye and said that and he had this whole army of bureaucrats that are going to be there for a lifetime. Thats what drove us crazy. Even when we were bipartisan and recommending that somebody be prosecuted said im not going to do that. But if it happened as an average joe on the street or gel that did something wrong. If you didnt comply with a subpoena you would have handcuffs on and you would be in jail. Martha absolutely. Thats why the system has to get fixed. 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The lingering, mary ogrady, also a fox news contributor. Welcome to all of you , the wall street journal has been very outspoken, very strong on this issue believing that the right thing to do is to go ahead and have this hearing. Criticized on social media a bit for not sort of indulging the idea that the woman who says shes a victim should have her opportunity to speak out and perhaps to have an fbi investigation. Thats right. I think what we are speaking out for is the integrity of the confirmation process. Lets understand it is the senates role, constitutional role to conduct advice and consent on these nominations. If they are basically asking the fbi to open this investigation to perform that role for them. If they are supposed to make the judgment. In addition, the fbi does not to investigations of Supreme Court nominees. If they do background checks. They do not pass judgment on his people. That is the job of the senators. Senator schumer is trying to offload and onto. Martha i asked because its such an old allegation, it goes back 36 years. When the fbi does do a background check, how far back to they go . They go back to the age of 18. This is an issue that deals with two adolescents potentially. Thats the charge. If two adolescents we know that adolescents are less are under different rule in the law regardless of we dont know what happened. Theres a reason. I think as dan points out, with the democrats are asking for is against years of process and what the fbi does. My dads a former fbi agent who still doesnt background checks. It starts when youre 18. So i consider it kind of the Family Business and as dan said, they just ask people take down what they say. This is not a role. Its not a federal offense. If there was to be a criminal investigation it would be by state legislatures and this comparison with anita hill is not true either because when the fbi got involved on anita hill her name had not become public. This woman went to the Washington Post and raised it publicly. Its all a smoke screen. The main facts are that democrats cannot defeat this nomination. Only republicans can commit meaning if an errant republican goes, and they are trying to peel one off. Chuck grassley has been scrupulous about following the rules for this. The democrats dont want to take a tough vote in election. Martha i can see an area where it looks like the plan is to go forward and to vote on wednesday if they do that and this woman, who is accusing Brett Kavanaugh, goes public in a different venue, she says i dont want to do a hearing, im going to do Something Else that i want to speak out, it could politically continue to damage the republicans, no . I dont know. I think that the very fact that she is not willing to come forward and testify because initially they asked for the delay so that she would be able to testify and once she won that, then she said im not going to testify. So the very fact that she wont come before the committee and talk about what her allegations are, and that she is lacking in a lot of substance in terms of what shes alleging. She doesnt know where it happened. She doesnt know how she got home. She really is not giving a lot of detail. To the point where people who want to believe her are saying maybe its a case of mistaken identity because her memory is so fuzzy about it. So i think that that mitigates against empathy for her. While were trying to say we want to believe her, we also know that we are in the process of destroying another person if we are not fair about this. Martha thats a great point. One last question just to do quickly. President trump in an interview yesterday said that he believes that releasing the documents on the russian investigation, the fisa application and the 302s, could be a crowning achievement of the term presidency. What do you think about that . I think the president is obsessed with the investigation. This is probably something he should have done before this. I dont know why theyve held it up. If we have to get some access to what was the basis of these fisa applications, what was the basis of the russian collusion narrative and possibly with the release of these documents we will finally begin to get that. Martha a lot of pushback, mary. Potentially classified information in there. Will it be a crowning achievement . I think it will. I think you should have done it much sooner. I think if he is judged harshly about it, its waiting so long. The last time the democrats said there were so much sensitive material in there it turns out there really wasnt any. Martha some of it was a little embarrassing potentially. The democrats are saying this is a redline if we release this. But from what im hearing you might find out what Peter Strzoks concerns policy was in that fisa application. I dont understand how you can be against transparency. And make your case. If the truth sets us free, we should be on the side of disclosure and its amazing to me how many journalists are on the side of keeping secrets. Martha thank you all. Good to have your tonight. Coming up, Juanita Broaddrick and california governor jerry brown comment about the president that are raising some eyebrows. If we dont get rid of him, hes going to undermine america and even the world. Try delicious creations like new crunchy fiesta shrimp tortilla chip crusted then topped with a creamy blend of three cheeses and finished with pico de gallo. And theres new sesameginger shrimp. Grilled and drizzled with savory soyginger sauce and sprinkled with asian seasoning. And dont forget the favorites you love, like garlic shrimp scampi but endless shrimp wont last endlessly, so hurry in. Comfort. What we deliver by delivering. Hais not always easy. 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For example, the administration sued california for its sanctuary laws and in turn, california sued the administration for its stance on environmental policies. And beyond the big picture governmental aspect of dispute, the governor and the president have made it clear they really just dont like each other very much. Back in march, the president tweeted governor jerry moonbeam brown pardoned five criminal illegal aliens, and threatening a crime with intent to terrorize, dealing drugs. Is this really with the great people of california want . And heres what brown just told msnbc about the president. Watch. Hes not telling the truth. He keeps changing his mind. He is sabotaging the world order in many respects. Its unprecedented, its dangerous. Somethings got to happen to the sky because if we dont get rid of him hes going to undermine america and even the world. Brown is also using his last month in office to thwart the president. Mr. Trump wants to open 1. 7 billion acres of coastal waters to oil drilling and brown has now signed legislation Banning Offshore Oil platforms even though while hes been in office brown has permitted 20,000 oil wells. For the record, Governor Brown and President Trump have also battled over National Guard troops along the border, the paris claimant accord and of course the wall. And its not as if browns departure will suddenly lead to a california federal detente, because polls show democrats are poised to continue running the golden state for years to come. Martha. Martha thank you very much. Coming up on the story, Juanita Broaddrick will join us. She responds to Hillary Clinton saying that Brett Kavanaughs accuser deserves due process. The president s accounts over this moment that happened when he visited the hurricane territory today. Jesse watters joins me coming up after this. Waze integration seamlessly connecting the world inside. With the world outside. 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Dont you monitor who your children a hug and bonnie chandon, how much did they pay the kid . Time for i saw this and i was like oh, my gosh. If youre going to criticize that, they will criticize anything. If he kicked the kid he would have been in big trouble. Martha or if he didnt give him a hug. Can you imagine being the president and being criticized for hugging a child . Chris christie he hugged obama. That was bad. Hugging a kid is not bad. I looked at some of the comments. They said this was staged, the kid was a plant and they said in puerto rico trump never hugged anybody. Hes only hugging this kid because hes white can you believe that . And melania wasnt even there to wear stilettos, so imagine if that happened, that could have been a huge scandal for that. Martha probably never hugged his own kids, all this stuff about his grandchildren. The kid is getting therapy after getting hugged by the president. Martha it was his idea. He asked for it. This is a high school in michigan. Everybody gets excited for the homecoming. The parade, the homecoming queen. But they are going to replace that with an Excellence Award and Excellence Award will be given regardless of gender, its not given to a woman necessarily, it could be given to a boy that its based on academic excellence. Listen, they did this because people were nominating on attractive girls to be homecoming queen and that was mean and bullying martha that is mean i do think thats mean as a joke. Life is tough, kids are kids and if you go through that stuff you become resilient and the meek shall inherit the earth. I went to school with nerves and now they all have mansions and the quarterback a bully them is like selling used cars. So things end up working out for these kids. Martha im a big believer in the homecoming queen. This is my mom, she was a Christmas Queen at Brown University. My dad, who she married. In the cool thing about this contest, they wrote in the newspaper back then in 1955 that it would be judged on poise and beauty, but not on grades. So it was the absolute opposite of what we are doing now. They all of course had good grades because they were at Brown University to begin with. A poise and beauty and whats wrong with that . Nothing at all. Or you homecoming . Martha never i did not follow in my wonderful moms footsteps. Not enough boys. Martha not enough boys, not enough beauty and not good enough grades. Lets put up the billboard. They are worried that peoples feelings might be hurt in california if they are called a stoner because pot is legal, recreational pot and an eight other states so they are saying dont use that word, its a little bit offensive. Call the person a nurse, call them a police officer, call them what they are supposed to be called. I didnt think stoners got offended. I think they are pretty chill, but what does smoking marijuana feel like, martha . Martha i wouldnt know. Me neither i dont really know what being stone feels like so i cant really understand the offense taken. Is it like a feeling in the head like stoned . Martha it supposed to mean that you are lazy and that your unproductive. Is that what happens when you smoke pot . Martha apparently. Fico is that what youve heard . Stomach martha thats what occurred. Are you trying to trap me . Thats what ive heard. Nih studies not stoned, i just cant talk. It lowers productivity, graduation rates, negative impact on attention, learning and memory. I wouldnt mess around with that. Its definitely back, say no to drugs. But now the industry is trying to make it a good thing. People are buying it and they want to make money. So stoner, they said forget stoners. I guess thats the slogan. Martha like i got milk thing with someone with a joint in their mouth may be. Got pot . What do you think . Got pot . [laughs] i like it. Martha it will be on billboards everywhere. Thanks. Good to see you. Coming up here, this very serious topic to end the story with time. Hillary clinton now saying the woman who accused Brett Kavanaughs attempted Sexual Assault deserves due process. Juanita broaddrick, one of bill clintons accusers, wants to respond to that and shes here now. I think that you have to take each of these situations sort of on their own merits. Flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. Flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. Most pills only block one. Flonase. The full value oft wyour new car . Youd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. Im gonna regret that. With Liberty Mutual new car replacement well replace the full value of your car. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty whoever came up with the term Small Business, never owned a business. Are your hours small . What about your reputation . Is that small . Owning your own thing is huge. Your partnerships, even bigger. 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You had concerns at the time . Your husband had concerns at the time he never had due process to defend himself from allegations like this. Have we learned anything about due process for the accusers and tals accused . Well and the accused . You have to take each of the situations on their own merits. What we have today is a process that has been rushed, that has been deliberately opaque. Yes, there should be due process for everyone involved. Martha my next guest takes some issue with the comments. Juanita broaddrick says Hillary Clinton had a far different response when she came forward in the 1990s accusing former president bill clinton of raping her while running for governor of arkansas in 1978. Here now exclusively tonight is Juanita Broaddrick. Good to see you. Thank you for being here. What goes through your mind when you hear her talk about due process and fairness for the accused and the accuser . Oh, the first thing you think about is she didnt give it to me, she didnt give it to Kathleen Willie or paula jones. She didnt give it to any of us. She is asking for things that she denied the victims of her he. Martha you say not only did she not acknowledge what you were accusing her husband of but that she intimidated you. This is a sound bite, a clip from an interview you did while back, explaining the day after you claimed you were raped with her husband and what her exchange was with you. Watch this. She grabbed ahold of my arm and my hand and she pulls me into her and she says with a very angry look on her face, which had been so pleasant second before. And in a low voice says, do you understand everything you do . That frightened me. At that moment and i have to go by what i felt then and the look that she gave me, i felt like she knew and she was telling me to keep quiet. Martha warning you to shut up . Oh, yeah. She was so nice when she first said it to me. I was at a fundraiser that i had taken information up there. I was never going to stay for that. But she caught me before i left. She comes up friendly and says bill and i are appreciative of everything you. Do then her voice changed and that is when she said what she did. It frightened me, martha. It really did. Martha you also say when you look back at all of that period when you were making your claims that Dianne Feinstein was among those who refused to read your deposition. So what do you think of all of this now . Its absurd. Not one democrat would look at my deposition with the independent counsel. Martha why not . What was the reason you were given . My gosh, they did not want to know about it. Just like senator ted stevens said in the committee, he said, i dont care if he raped her, got up and shot her dead. Youre not going to get the vote. That was in the shippers book that especially if out. Martha you talk about the allegation and when it was. Its only four year different than the allegation against Brett Kavanaugh now. Exactly. Martha you tweeted out if the want f. B. I. To go back that far, basically lets investigate my situation as well. Right . Exactly. Why not . Everybody says it was litigated and adjudicated. My case was never litigated. It was never adjudicated. It never went to court. I was never discredited at all. Martha when you hear the parameters set, they want to the this vote next week. What do you think about this woman, the accuser . Does she deserve more than she is getting right now from the senators in seeking her mind or what they have offered her appropriate in your mind . I feel like its very appropriate. I feel like she could come monday or let them come to her and let her tell her story. If they feel like there is more investigation that needs to be done, do it. But i think she should come and the her story. Martha you think of your case and the bill clinton case, obviously, so much have changed. Now we are in the metoo movement. Its like its completely opposite. Back then, no one, you know, so many people refused to believe you. Now i know. Martha it feels like you can make an accusation and everyone is supposed to believe you. What do you think about that . I think the metoo organization is for liberal women or liberal men who have been Sexual Assaulted. I dont think it includes the clinton victims at all. I dont think they want us in that. Metoo may help some people. But it certainly has no advantage for me. Martha i think its a good lesson. We do need to look at the situations with an open mind and we have to understand that lives get destroyed on both sides of the equation in terms of the guilty party an who the Innocent Party is. What would be your message for her tonight as she contemplates whether or not she should go to that hearing on monday . She needs to think exactly what happened. What it really Brett Kavanaugh she can remember . She needs to get her story straight and be able to recount. I cant imagine being a 15yearold girl and not telling anyone about it. Martha so that surprises you, she didnt share it with anyone . You shared it with several people . Yes, yes, yes. I know i was 35 at the time. But its just a young girl. I cant imagine her not going home, telling her parents, telling someone. Martha thank you. Its great to see you tonight. That is our story for this evening on wednesday night. Send me a tweet. Thestory. Back tomorrow night. See you then. Tucker good evening. Welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. There is so much news happening. It took a minute what to include. We only have an hour. This is what we came up with. Hillary clintons new attitude on the f. B. I. Investigation is remarkable given her previous statements. Paula jones joins us later to discuss that. First up, by far the news of the day. Brett kavanaughs Supreme Court nomination that is in suspended animation tonight thanks as you know for allegations he assaulted a psychology professor called Chrstine Blasey Ford some 36 years ago. While both of them were still in high school. Despite blanket media coverage, the basic details of the story is murky. Ford has not said

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