Big apple. He will see secretary pompeo, general jack keane joins me with what is going on with this north korea summit. Thats coming up in a moment. The president saying he is looking forward to this summit. Still, he hopes its all going to be resolved. He says its about time to get passed what he calls quote the witchhunt. Plus, the Top House Intelligence Committee democrat lashing out, suggesting that the president s tweets over the weekend that he was spied on in his campaign is just propaganda. Is he right . In moments, House OversightCommittee Chairman trey gowdy with his reaction to that. But we begin with chief National Correspondent ed henry standing by tonight in washington. Hi, ed. Martha, great to see you. The president s lead attorney Rudy Giuliani openly admitted they believe special counsel Robert Muellers probe is rigged. Their goal undermine that investigation to impact the political question of whether he will face impeachment. Where the president is succeeding on that score is raising doubts about the investigators. Former officials like james comey and James Clapper who, when confronted with mounting evidence that there was surveillance of the trump camp, have tried to shift it to salesman particular call question whethesemantical whetherit was. Tweeting with spies or informants as the democrats like to call them because it sounds less sinister but its not all over my campaign each from a very early date. Why didnt the crooked highest levels of the fbi or quote unquote justice contact me to tell me the phony russia problem. Orthopedic the president keeps trying to frame this as democrats are out to get him when its widely believed mueller is a republican. Other key investigators like Rod Rosenstein and fbi director Christopher Wray were appointed, nominated by the president himself. The president alleging mueller is going to interfere with the mid terms tweeting, quote the 13 angry democrats plus people who worked 8 years for obama working on the rigged russia witchhunt will be meddling with the midterm elections especially now that republicans, stay tough, are taking the lead in the polls there was no collusion, except by the democrats. One of those democrats pursuing the president adam schiff. He keeps say there is no evidence to support the allegation that the fbi placed a spy inside the trump camp. That phrasing leaves the door open to one or more informants conducting surveillance of the trump camp. Listen. There is no evidence to support that spy theory. You know, this is just a piece of propaganda the president wants tout o and repeat. Giuliani said again he wants to see the intel on this spy issue before agreeing to a president ial interview with mueller. Doesnt have time until the on again and off again summit with kim jong un. The president announced sorry he cant spend more time on the russia probe because he has to deal with north korea and other issues like the economy, except when he tweets more than a dozen times about the russia probe that keeps the focus, yes, on the russia probe. Martha . Martha indeed it does. Ed, thank you very much. Joining us now South Carolina congressman trey gowdy chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and house intel committee. You were one who saw some of the background documents related to this issue of whether or not there was a spy or informant in the campaign late last week. Anything that you can share on a broad scale about what went down there . I think there are two things important to understand. Number one, the source of President Trumps frustration. Brennan said he should be in the dust bin of history. Comey said impeachment is too good of a remedy. Clapper doesnt like him. Loretta lynch said call it a matter, not an investigation. Schiff said he had evidence of collusion before we even began the investigation and 60 democrats have voted to impeach him before bob mueller has come up with a single, solitary finding. Thats what has him frustrated. What should have him heartenside chris wray, Rod Rosenstein and all the senior were all trump appointees. Here is what is fair to ask. What did the fbi do . Whenid they do it . What was the factual predicate upon which they took whatever actions they took and against whom were they directed . But, remember, martha, it was President Trump himself who said, number one, i didnt collude with russia but if anyone connected with my campaign did, i want the fbi to find that out. It looks to me like the fbi was doing what President Trump said i want you to do find it out. He is not the target. So, when schiff and others dont make that clear, they are doing a disservice to our fellow citizens. He is not the target. Martha this raises the question that the president raised in this one of those tweets. There were a lot of them. In which we talked about quite a bit here last week if that were the case, why didnt they give him a little briefing. Here is what we found out. You know, we do have somebody who asked some questions of george papadopoulos. We do have somebody who has asked questions of carter page. Heres what you need to know. I think defensive briefings are done a lot. And why the comey fbi didnt do it, i dont know. But chris wray and Rod Rosenstein have at least made it clear to us, donald trump was never the target of the investigation. He is not the current target of the investigation. Now, keep in mind, that can all change depending on what a witness says. As of now, i think chris wray and Rod Rosenstein are stunned whenever people think trump is the target of their investigation. I will leave it up to them how to brief the president. Martha that point of view that you are talking about right now, was that strengthened when you went into this briefing last week . Yes. I am even more convinced that the fbi did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got. And that it has nothing to do with donald trump. Martha all right. So, given the things that were over here on the right hand, all the frustrations, do you think its problematic the way the president has is tweeting about this all the time . Because he feels like he needs to vent. He has got to get his message out there. Is it legally problematic in your mind what he is doing . I think any time you create prior statements you give mueller or other folks a chance to question you on them and ask what was your factual basis. Why did you say that . The president should have access to the best legal minds in the country. And i think he should take advantage of those. And he has got some really good communicators that are on his staff and at his call. If i were his lawyer, and i never will be, i would tell him to rely on his lawyers and his comms folks. Martha here is one of them, Rudy Giuliani speaking with bill hemmer over the holiday weekend. Watch. This whats wrong with the government trying to figure out what russia was up to . Nothing wrong with the government doing that. Everything wrong with the government spying on a candidate of the opposition party. Thats a watergate. Spy gate. I mean, and without any warning to him and now, to compound that and to make it into a criminal investigation, bill. Thats why this is a rigged investigation. There are two things wrong with what the former u. S. Attorney said. Number one, no one knows whether this is a criminal investigation. Mueller was told to do a Counter Intelligence investigation into what russia did. Number two, President Trump himself in the comey memos said if anyone connected with my campaign was working with russia, i want you to inveigate i and it sounds to me like that is exactly what the fbi did. I think when the president finds out what happened, he is going to be not just fine, he is going to be glad that we have an fbi that took seriously what they heard. He was never the target. Russia is the target. Martha sounds to me as if you would advise him there is no problem with him sitting down with robert mueller. Absolutely not. I have always said i think you ought to sit down with bob mueller. You told us publicly there was no collusion. You told us publicly there was no obstruction. Say in private what have you said publicly. Limit the scope to exactly what the mueller memo is, but if he were my client, and i would say if you have done nothing wrong, then you need to sit down and tell mueller what you know. Martha there was one judge who said that the scope was all over the place. Do you feel comfortable with the scope of this investigation and do you feel like your committee has been shared with to the extent that that exists that the scope exists . Im not sure what the scope of the Mueller Probe is i know this rosenstein is the one who created the memo. Martha right. Its not bob muellers fault. Martha have you seen that memo. I have. I have seen the memo have you seen also. The other memo some of my colleagues wants to see is a more narrow. Martha the one that basically says investigate russia and anything related to it . And as a throw away line at the end and, of course, if there is any accurately look at that, too. We run towards the criminality. But i would think everyone would want to know what russia did. With home is the the second part. What did russia do . Martha thank you very much. Good to see you, congressman. Yes, maam. Martha also with us tonight fox news senior judicial analyst judge Andrew Napolitano who has been listening to this. Your thoughts, judge on what the congressman and i were talking in terms of this spy issue whether or not the president should be concerned about it. Full disclosure, congressman gowdy and i are buddies and we have discussed this before i listened to him tonight. He is really the perfect person to talk to about this because he has seen a lot of things that the rest of us have not seen. But the allegations by mayor giuliani over the weekend which would lead to us believe that the trump people think that the fbi had an undercover agent who his way into the campaign and was there as a spy on the campaign seem to be baseless. There is no evidence for that whatsoever. But the other allegation about this professor whose name we are not supposed to mention, talking to people on the periphery of the campaign, that is Standard Operating Procedure in intelligence gathering and in criminal investigations. Martha all right. But, obviously, the president is concerned about the existence of that person. He feels like there was someone spying on the campaign and it just goes back to the other question about if that were the case, and the president said i want to know if anybody is working with russia, why was he not sort of clued in to that and he talked about that in a tweet over this weekend, too. Should he have been . In my opinion, yes. But, quite frankly, thats a judgment call. Sometimes you dont want to tell people that you are worried about whether or not their organization has been invaded, so to speak. Because you dont want that word to get out there. Martha judge, they are claiming that invasion was so deep it impacted the outcome of the investigation. Thats what jim clapper says. Yes. Martha thats a crime in progress. How cahow you cannot step in say you, you and you are off the campaign. We want to know who you have been talking to. Is it not stopping a crime in progress . I understand the president s frustration that he was not informed of the fact that his campaign was being investigated. Not because they think the campaign did anything wrong but some people may have unwittingly or perhaps wittingly welcomed the russian involvement in the campaign that donald trump didnt know about it what i have told the candidate i would have. But i respect the judgment of those who decided not to tell him. Now, look, if they were there for some nefarious reason, the one giuliani suggested, to gather data from the campaign and pass it to the west wing and pass it to mrs. Clinton, i would want to see evidence of that before i made an allegation that outrageous. Martha judge, good to see you as always. Thank you, sir. Youre welcome. Martha straight ahead tonight, the north korea general blacklisted from travel to the United States is now here. Who is this individual . What do we know about him . And what message is he carrying from kim jong un . General jack keane up next on that. Plus, roseanne axed by abc in the wake of a racially charged tweet. So will others who have said horrible things, perhaps be next . I think every girl should grow up and be president even if they are a liar, liar pants suit on fire. This is your wakeup call. If you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. 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Officials no doubt on high alert as Kim Young Chol blacklisted north korean general with quite a past is going to be on american soil. Trace gallagher here now with his back story. Hi, trace. Hi, martha. Make no mistake 72yearold Kim Young Chol has very few fans in south korea and the United States. South korea Still Believes a former four star general and chief Intelligence Officer was behind the 2010 attack of a south Korean Navy Ship that killed 46 sailors. And former u. S. Director of National IntelligenceJames Clapper identified Kim Young Chol man behind hacking operation Sony Pictures in 2014. Therein lies the dichotomy because while general kim is feared and hated he also happens to be the primary of north koreas Charm Offensive which began during the Winter Olympics in pyeongchang. And kim judge chol was at the closing share moneys. He has been in attendance of all four north korean dictator summits two with gee jay ping and south korean president moon jaein. Separately Kim Young Chol is considered a key negotiator in the diplomatic talks with south korea. As for u. S. north korea relations, experts say its crucial that kim has a solid working relationship with secretary of state mike pompeo who has been to north korea twice in recent months. The white house says that pompeo and Kim Young Chol will meet later this week to finalize plans for the u. S. North korea summit. The remainder of the schedule has not yet been released but President Trump tweeted this, quoting we have put a great Team Together for our talks with north korea, meetings are currently taking place concerning summit and more. Kim young chol the vice chairman of north korea heading to new york. Solid response to my letter. Thank you. So while the former north korean general surprise surprise trip to the u. S. Is certainly a positive sign that the summit is on track, its still two weeks away. An eternity for diplomacy. Martha . Martha trace, thank you so much. Here now general jack keane, fox news senior strategic analyst and chairman of the institute for the study of war. General, this has already been quite an interesting roller coaster to watch. Mike pompeo, the secretary of state has been twice now to north korea. So i guess on this round they said, you know what . Youre going to come to us in new york. Were going to talk there. While another delegates has gone over to discuss denuclearization and exactly what that looks like. Where does this all stand in your mind . Well, i think the visit of the north korean envoy here is something of that stature who clearly has been all the major negotiation points, he is obviously carrying a message. And i think first, that message is that kim jong un definitely wants the summit go forward. The president definitely hasnt made that final decision yet. He stunned the chinese and North Koreans and south koreans as well when he staged the summit. Lack of seriousness on the part of the North Koreans unduly influenced by the chinese. Is he carrying that message we want this summit to go forward. And i think likely he is trying to get the actual content of the summit back on track that kim jong un is serious about denuclearization whether he truly is or not, remains to be seen. What these guys say and what they do largely are two different things. I think is he largely trying to convey a message that kim jong un is absolutely commit you had from the United States major concession to him is that the security of his regime indefinitely. But i do think the key meeting is also going to take place and is taking place yesterday with our delegatedelegates and delegatio. Thats what it all comes down, to what does denuclearization mean . What does it look like . Is it something that happens in a couple of stages because in the past we have been promised that and gotten nothing. We have seen those facilities reopened, reoperating in no time after they got their money essentially. What does it have to look like in your mind . Well, i think what the leader of our delegates, kim is probably asking the North Koreans and wanting from them, if you are serious about denuclearization, give us a full accounting of your Nuclear Weapons and your missiles, where they are located. Where the storage sites are. Where the fuel sites are et cetera. Lets put together a process to verify and our ability to oversee your disarming and dismantling that on some kind of a schedule that makes sense. Not something thats going to take many years but something thats reasonable in a couple of years. Im confident ou delegation would wan to see that from the North Koreans. Whether they would want to put that on the table or not is another manner. Likely there is going to be differences, martha. The summit hinges on whether our delegation in their minds can resolve some of those differences through negotiation where the summit can at least have the strategic framework and begin a process to be successful. If they think its not resolvable, then i think the summit would be delayed until were able to change those conditions a little bit. Martha fascinating. You know, clearly they already know that President Trump doesnt approve of the iran model. So thats probably not going to happen. And its probably the model that they would most like so well see where this goes. General, thank you very much. Great to have you with us tonight. Martha, one more thing. They know full well that they cant play donald trump. China, north korea, and even south korea have all tried that in the last few weeks. And they know they are not going to get away with it. Martha nancy pelosi said he must be having a giggle fit over this letter kim jong un, she is noticeably silent on the whole thing at this point so well see. General, good to see you tonight. Thank you again. Take care, martha. Martha you too. Coming up the Golden State Killer case in court today. They found his d. N. A. In the garbage and scanned it through an ancestry website. So if you had spit and sent your d. N. A. Is it safe . Roseanne barr gets the boot. Candace owens, an africanamerican studies and Jason Nichols up next. A lot of us, you know, no matter who we voted for, we dont want to see our president fail. Im up for that. Eliquis. Eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. Plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. Eliquis is fdaapproved and has both. So whats next . Seeing these guys. Dont stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. 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Roseanne was abcs first number one hit in 24 years today came crashing down for her and for the network that had just gushed about her during their upfront presentations after she took aim at former obama advisor Valerie Jarrett with this terrible tweet that you can see up there on your screen now. Within hours abc released this statement. Roseannes twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values and we decided to cancel her show. Joining me now with reaction is Candace Owens turning point u. S. A. And justin, welcome to both of you. Good to have you both with us tonight. Thank you. Martha this is roseannes apology that she put out before she got fired. I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all americans. I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me. My joke was in bad taste. Candace, is that should that have been enough or no . It begs the question why is it enough when other people say awful things on air. Why is enough when mar uses the n word live. The question on some americans mind not what she said right or wrong clearly wrong. She should be condemned. The question is why other people tend to be pardoned in these same situations. We saw this with bill maher. We saw this with joy behar and Keith Olbermann who has said Disgusting Things via twitter and able to secure a job at espn. Is the difference right or wrong, liberal or conservative . Martha no, i think wrong is wrong. Take a look ought joy behar. You just mentioned her. Lets play this sound bite from february 13th. Its one thing to talk to jesus. Its another thing when jesus talks to you thats called Mental Illness if im not correct. Jason, she basically said that christians who believe that jesus speaks to them are mentally ill or have a Mental Illness. She also apologized. And last time i checked she is on the air pretty much ery day. Right. And her comments were terrible. One of the things we need to realize this is a pattern of behavior biros san. She sent the exact same tweet about another africanamerican woman in 2013. So, when you have a pattern. Martha they knew that when they hired her at abc. Everybody knew who they were getting, right . It wasnt a pattern at that point, can dat does. Martha that was me. Thats okay. Im sorry. Martha thats okay. No problem. It wasnt a pattern at that point. If you have done it over and over again, and have you pictures of you as hitler and putting ginger bread men into an oven. We have to take a stand. The company decided to take a stand. Martha anybody who has been around the past 20 years watching roseanne do her stuff knows she is you know what you are going to get. She is crude and crass and says things she shouldnt say. Completely up to abcs discretion here if they just they obviously made a decision that they felt that this was fireable behavior. You know, you look at wanda sikes who called Rush Limbaugh the 20th hijacker. Kathy griffin who held a bloodied severed head of donald trump. What im curious about, candace, is that the prescription for punishment seems to be careerending in certain situations, right . And then in other situations its not. Even joy reid who made homophobic slurs was one of the people who was asked to come on today on msnbc and give her reaction to, this candace. Yes. Its unbelievable. I thought of joy and reid. Not only did she say homophobic slurs she lied about the homophobic slurs said she was hacked and she was not made to leave her show whatsoever. She is brought on to tv every single day. Jason, you say the difference is establishing a pattern have you not yet answered why Keith Olbermann is able to secure a contract with espn. Have you read his tweets lately talk about establishing a pattern. He has been vitriolic, hateful and disgusting not only to our president but any Single Person who supports him. I ask the question wt i the differentiator here . Candace, has he called anyone a monkey which we know goes back or excuse me an ape which goes back to stereotypes that started during the antebellum period styerio racism. Im asking you on air. I would like to know once and for all what is the differentiator . Is it historic factor how long its been said where joy reid homophobic slurs whatsoever. You have not been able to establish whether joanne reid has been attacked. That hasnt been established. Martha jason, she basically admitted it. She did admit it and she apologized. She said she did not get hacked. Im no longer like that. Thats what she said essentially. Im paraphrasing. This is abcs choice. Abc decided they dont want this type of behavior and this type of pattern. Martha i think everybody is saying they get that. We get that you are not adding anything new here. We understand that and were not condemning abc. We are asking. What is your point then . Im missing what it is that you are saying . Why is it okay when joy ann reid does it and not okay when roseanne does it we are not saying either is acceptable. It sounds as though you are. Thats not at all what we have said. Martha very early in the discussion i dont think anybody is defending what Roseanne Barr said. Nobody is. Martha i have got to go. I wish we had more time. Im trying to understand. The actions of joy ann reid and defending Keith Olbermann. [talking statement. Martha i have got to put a button on it more time next time hopefully. Up next, embattled governor Eric Greitens he is resigning. Josh holly has been investigating the governor. Hes up next. People of good faith know that i am not perfect but i have not broken any laws nor committed any offense worthy of this treatment. Recommended i switch to miralax. Stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate the nerves in your colon. 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The governor admitted to having an affair with his former hairdresser before he took office. He denied allegations of blackmail after the mistress alleged that he took a partially nude photo of her. The photo never materialized and the state dropped the case exactly two weeks ago. Leaving greitens free of the felony charge. Our next guest, state attorney general republican josh holly launched a separate investigation into the Charity Donor list that he says greitens used for political purposes. Holly called on him to resign in april. He joins me now in his First Exclusive interview on in this evening. Good to see you attorney general holly. Thank you for being here tonight. Great to be with you. Martha looked like he was kind of in the clear. So what happened between then and now that forced the resignation today . Well, look, the governor has done the right thing by the state of missouri today and resigning his office and i am cheering for new incoming governor mike parson. Is he going to do a great job. My office stands ready to assist in the transition. Now the state of missouri can move forward to what is going to be a better day. So we look forward to putting this behind us and governor parson, i think, is going to do great. Martha do you think, you know, it was your pursuing of the Charity Donor list that turned the tide here . Because he had a decision that didnt go the way his attorneys wanted it to go today, correct . Thats correct. Earlier in court today, martha. Look, i took an oath as attorney general to enforce the law of missouri without fear or favor to anybody. And thats exactly what i have done and thats what im going to go on doing. Whether that means taking on sex traffickers or standing up to big pharma or to big tech. My office enforces the laws of missouri and defends the people of missouri, no matter who it is thats what we have always done and thats exactly what im going to keep doing. Martha there was criticism of you early on that you werent tough enough on the republican governor of your state. Is that something that you think is going to come up when you are in debates against clair mccass skill how are running against in missouri. Clair mccaskill is eager to change the record anything to do with her record. She has a terrible record for the people of missouri. She has voted to keep our border open. Not secure it she has voted to send jobs overseas. She has voted to raise the cost of our hlthcare, martha. That is whyhes th popular senator in ameri on a ballot. Were going to send her home. Im proud standing up for missouriens and i look forward taking that to the november election. Martha good to see you tonight. Attorney general josh hawley and candidate for missouri. Also develop this evening on another front. Names coming under fire for peddling fake news. They say on again off again summit with north korea this is a quote from the paper. A senior white house official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on june 12th would be, quote, impossible, to which the president fired back. Wrong again. Use real people not phony sources. And further reveals that the president actually had a legitimate case to complain about that. Molly hemmingway Senior Editor at the federalist and fox news contributor. Mollie, great to have you with us this evening. I dont know how many people spend time going back and forth on twitter watching all of this stuff. Its pretty interesting when you dig into what happened here. They basically said, you know, that his aide was undercutting him. There is no way we can do this on june 12th. The president said thats not what happened. What did happen . Right. So the actual story was saying that trump was not listening to his aides and that they were at odds. To support that claim. They said there was this aide who said it would be impossible to have a june 12th meeting. Trump said thats a phony news, fake news. They countered by releasing audio of an offtherecord briefing and outing the person who gave that briefing and saying well, see this proves we were right. The only problem was the audio definitely did not show that they were right. The audio shows him being asked if he thought this was an impossible thing to have this meeting at this date he definitely does not say he thinks its impossible. He says the point is north korea better act and act quickly if they want something to happen. He does not say its impossible. Its important to remember, too that this briefing happened after trump had exited the summit but before north korea responded that they would behave better or they were trying to get things back. That context is very important. And they just completely misunderstood, at best, or they lied about what that source had said. Martha yeah, when you look back, there are some examples of things along these lines and you point some of them out. It matters as a reporter if the aide says that it would be impossible, right. Impossible is a very definitive word. But what the aide was saying in the room was that they have been working hard towards the summit. That its difficult to pull these things off in time frames. Thats very different. You know, if the president turns to that aid and says we are going to go on june 129. I bet you can be they will workl night. Trump and aides were at odds. This guy definitely saying it was difficult. When you are trying to make that case, you better make that case air tight. Thats why people have trouble believing Anonymous Sources to begin with. Not that they dont exist. The media have not been shown to be trustworthy about accurately conveying information that comes from people. Martha its important. Words are important and facts do matter. Here is Kellyanne Conway talking about another instance of this having to do with the children who were separated from their family in the immigrant situation at the border. Listen to this. Look at what they did this weekend. They saw these pictures of two migrant, i suppose, children in cages and because one of them tweeted it must be true. So they just retweet and retweet. Those are pictures from 2014. All of a sudden they started deleting those tweets because it didnt fit their narrative about this president and the border. And that means, to me, that they didnt really care about the story about the migrant children. It didnt fit the political narrative. Martha the tweet on one of those, here it is. All of these photos are disturbing. But the first two are especially awful. And it is awful to see these kids in this situation. This is still the policy of this administration but these pictures were taken in the Prior Administration when the same policy existed, mollie. Recently president obama said that he didnt have any scandals during his administration. Theres a hidden truth in that which is scandals werent covered during the obama administration. When Something Like that happened, children in cages, the media might have covered it a little bit but they didnt make it into a huge thing like happened on twitter where former obama officials and members of the media were tweeting this out and manufacturing a bunch of outrage about something that is long standing issue going back through multiple administrations. That unevenness with how these administrations are covered also goes a long way to explaining why people are having trouble having confidence in the media. Martha when you think about it, if you are horrified by those pictures, you should be horrified by those pictures, right . Right. Martha those same people tweeting that should have said wow, i am horrified to figure out that this actually happened in 2014 under the Prior Administration so i condemn them and this administration and every other administration who has had this policy. But, instead, they take it down in sort of the dark of night and pretend like they never said it . Not just that there has actually been a huge series of mistakes about these stories. Conflating issues of families arriving seeking refugee status. Versus children arriving who are unaccompanied minors who are placed in the homes of other people there have not been really quality coverage from a lot of people explaining the nuances and details of a very complicated immigration story and its much easier to get upset rather than cover these things well. Martha mollie, great to see you. Thanks for coming. In you too. Martha if you have spit and sent your d. N. A. Is that d. N. A. Safe . Is it private to you . The ethical debate that has now been sparked by the capture of the suspected Golden State Killer . What is really happening with your Genetic Information and your familys Genetic Information when you sign up for those sites . Our interest, the public interests is far more understanding how genealogical websites were used. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. Flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. Most pills only block one. Flonase. Yogyoooogiiiiiii but when it comes to mortgages, hes less confident. Here, yogi. Fortunately, theres Rocket Mortgage by quicken loans. Apply simply. Understand fully. Mortgage confidently. Get approved in as few as 8 minutes. Martha we are waiting for President Trump to get on stage in nashville this evening. He is waiting for Marsha Blackburn rung against the democrat. And she is in a pretty challenging tough race there. We will take you there as soon as that gets underway this evening. In the meantime, this intriguing story, the suspected Golden State Killer, that man right there, accused of 12 medical records, dozens of rapes and more than 120 burglaries back in california in court today as the judge is waiting to unseal the arrest warrants. Investigators found the allusive suspect joseph dangelo, former police officer, after submitting his d. N. A. To a free public genology website called ged match or ged match. Its a technique sparked ethical debate over how this technology is used with growing issues over issues of permission, privacy, trans sismt here now the leader of the new Genetic Genealogy Research unit with paragon and helped suspect in cold case Washington State through her work. C. C. Its really good to have you with us tonight. Obviously this is a cutting edge part of forensics and crime solving. How does it work . How did they get his d. N. A. And how did they track him three a genology website. They used his d. N. A. From the crime scene. They needed to get it into a compatible format with the public website ged match. That was a different process than the d. N. A. Process. This wasnt through their codis Law Enforcement database. They had to use geno typing or full agai genetic sequencing. Genetic markers in ged match to compare it to other people. Uploaded that file and ran it against everyone else who is already in that database looking for people who shared significant amounts of d. N. A. With him. Martha incredible. It really is when you think about false imprisonment and the mistakes that have been made over the years. And you think about the potential for this kind of technology. Of course, it raises questions for people who send in their d. N. A. To these different sites and they wonder, you know, how safe is my d. N. A. . I think its really important to note that if you are testing in one of the big genetic genealogy ancestry, 23 and me, family tree d. N. A. And my heritage d. N. A. That those databases are not being accessed by Law Enforcement. In fact, those companies have released terms of service actually prohibiting that use. So the only way that they would ever be able to access those databases is through a subpoena. And so far there have been no successful subpoenas in that way. So, this is actually a different website. Its not a commercial website. It was created by two citizen scientists volunteers have built this website. And it is you can only access it if you have tested at one of these other companies and you choose to download your raw data file and upload it to this site. So they are not a testing company. They are only accepting files from the testing companies. And all of the companies warn that if you download your raw data file they can no longer protect it security. This is something you would have to take a couple steps to do and be very aware of what you were doing. Martha yeah. I think people think about facebook and think about social media and accepting the terms and conditions, right . And so you are saying you do have to be very careful when you are accepting the terms and conditions as you are using these sites because its possible that they could share some of your data. Yes. I think its important that everybody is well aware of how their data is being used. So, in this case, i was really happy the case i worked on, to have informed consent from the people using ged match. That was really only accomplished because of the gfk case. It got so much media and coverage that pretty much everybody who is participating in ged match had heard about it and people had the opportunity to rye move their d. N. A. Or privatize it if it was something they were not comfortable with. As far as the Big Companies like i said they are not being used for Law Enforcement but people should still read those terms and conditions so they make sure they feel comfortable what their d. N. A. Will be used for. Martha real quick. About 30 seconds. The cold case that you solved, what was that criminal . Who was that criminal . It was a doublemurder of a young canadian couple. It was 31 years ago in Washington State. They had crossed over the border to run a quicker rand and ended up both viciously murdered and the female sexually assaulted. He had been free for 31 years, not paying for this crime. So im very happy for the families to finally be getting some closure and for him to be taken off the streets. This is a way to make our society much, much safer. Martha good to see you tonight. Countdown is on. Were just now minutes away from the big rally in nashville. We will take you there live as soon as it gets underway. Well be right back. Its a pill that treats differently. 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