Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Story With Martha MacCallum 20171128

My opinion of the structure has not changed. I still think its an awful example of a bureaucracy that has gone wrong when it is almost entirely unaccountable to the people that are supposed to oversee it or supposed to pay for it. By the way, im just learning about the powers i have is acting director, they would frighten most of you. Doesnt surprise me, by the way the extent that we are having a succession challenge launched by ms. English. It doesnt surprise me that that grows out of an agency that thinks it isnt accountable to anybody in the first place. She is on the whole meeting with mr. Schumer and miss warren, and it makes you wonder who she wants to be independent from. Everybody or just independent from donald j. Trump . My guess is it is the latter. Martha good evening, i Martha Maccallum and the story begins tonight with breaking news out of d. C. Where this decisive battle in the swamp training effort of President Trump played out dramatically today. Chief National Correspondent ed henry life to lay it out for us tonight from the white house. Good evening. Great to see you. Tonight Mick Mulvaney is in charge just about a block from where im standing here at the white house. Insisting at least for now he has won the power struggle, issuing a 30 day freeze on new hiring of bureaucrats at that agency and the issuing of new regulations that conservatives believe have been stifling Economic Growth. This was a strange day that started early, about 7 56 00 a. M. When mulvaney started tweeting these photos of him hard at work at the desk of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and meeting at staffers at the agency to show he was in charge. Literally one minute after that first tweet, leandre english tried to show she was boss sending an agency wide email at 7 57 to all staff that was signed acting director. English was the choice of obama appointing Richard Cordray who abruptly resigned right after thanksgiving. Mulvaney was not to be deterred. Not just legal memos that show that president drum, not a leftover obama appointee has the executive power to install an acting voice, boss. He was also armed with doughnuts. A shopping bag. He marched back into the agency about 10 00 a. M. And issued a memo telling all staff to do two things, ignore all instructions from english and come get some doughnuts. Heres what all this matters to our viewers. This agency created by then president obama, who initially installed Elizabeth Warren as the chief before she became a senator and the office quickly became a flash point. Created by the frank act after the financial crisis, democrats insisted they were putting in safety valves for consumers while republicans charge regulations on auto lending actually made it harder for average americans to get auto loans. Congress doesnt appropriate funds directly like it does for every other agency so you dont even have real accountability to congress. There are just no checks and balances on the system. The appointment of the omb director temporarily as acting director is a naked effort to destroy the independence of the bureau and to neutralize it as a proactive force for consumers in the financial sector. Now to the big question i know you want answer, how were the doughnuts . This tweet by spokesman john clear evidence the staff like them. A big a problem for mulvaney moving forward is that english is now asking a judge to block him from officially taking over. He says he and the president believe they are on strong legal ground but that if the president or a judge tells them to get out he will follow the law. Martha thank you so much. Here now to help explain the lawsuit tonight, judge andrew napolitano, fox news senior judicial analyst. Does the mulvaney appointment by President Trump, is that on solid ground . I will tell you the ground it is on, two conflicting statutes. President trump relies on a 1998 statute which says theres a vacancy at the head of an Administrative Agency the president appoints an acting director until he nominates and the Senate Confirms a fulltime director. But the cfpb, which is this particular agency, which is enacted by congress in 2010 says that when there was a vacancy in the position of director the Deputy Director becomes director so you have to statutes that are clashing, which is why the court will decide which one prevails. Normally when two statutes disagree and they are written by the same body, the congress, the Court Decides that the more recent one is the one i would follow, thats the one that backs up mrs. English, not the one that backs the president , because congress was aware of the old one and decided to leapfrog over it. The english argument, the obama argument is this agency was intended to be immune from politics, it was intended to regulate the economy and not even be answerable to congress because its not even paid by congress, its paid by the federal reserve. Donald trumps argument is, in a representative democracy, how can there be some entity that nobody can control . Congress cant control the money that is going to a great martha that raises the question whether or not the Consumer Financial protection boards constitutional in it of itself. It does. Theres no question that congress wrote it this way in order to frustrate whoever was going to be president obamas successor. The question is, is this recognizable under the constitution . That has not yet been ruled on. Martha appointed or his deputy on his way out the door. He stuck her in that slot in order to allow that statute to hold up. Whether or not thats going to work, we dont know. This is not forever. The president could nominate Mick Mulvaney tomorrow and then its up to Mitch Mcconnell and the republicans in the senate, how quickly they approve that person. Martha in terms of where this goes from here, he said basically he would love that shes going to put a freeze on all of the activity. Some people watch this and they say Consumer Protection, that sounds like a pretty good thing, so why would we want to get rid of that . Let me tell you some things that are happening. Ordered to turn over 70 million to this agency as some sort of a fine for some sort of a financial shenanigan, Mick Mulvaney says stop, dont turn any money over to anybody. Im going to relook at everything the man who just left after four years there has done. Theres a lot of these irons in the fire where a lot of money is moving around and he says hold on, nothing is happening. Martha i go back to what Mick Mulvaney said. He said by the way, im learning about the powers that i have as acting director and they would frighten most of you, in other words, this sort of freeflowing, freeform Government Agency can basically say to accompany, i just decided you owe us 70 million. And that money doesnt go to the people that we think, it goes to the federal treasury. Martha what is it go next . However Congress Wants to spend it. In one respect im glad theres litigation because the public needs to know the type of constitutional oddball that this entity is in the powers that it has. We may get a decision tonight. Theres a federal judge in washington, d. C. , who is receiving briefs as we speak. Martha we love it, those federal judges work late. Thank you very much, great to see a tenant. Mike huckabee here, great to see you tonight as well. Do we need this agency . That is the question that the Trump Administration is nudging at here. I dont think we do need it. If the fact is this agency has made it more difficult for consumers. Let me give you a precise reason that i say that. And lets be clear, this was not created by people who have run businesses, signed the front of a paycheck, knew what it was like to live in a private sector. This was done by a bunch of academics like Elizabeth Warren who lied about her ancestry in order to get a job and keep a job. That is cultural appropriation, a whole other issue. Heres what happens in the real world. The real world people and congress dont know. If you try to get a Consumer Loan today because of frank and the start of their regulations, it may cost more to process the loan than the bank could ever make in giving the loan and charging interest. One banker told me. He said we dont make Consumer Loans anymore, we just stopped them. What kind of loan is that . That the 25,000 loan that helps a family to add a room on the house when their fourth child comes. Its a Small Business guy who needs it to put inventory on his shelves so we can stay in business. Its the kind of loan that is the bread and butter of america, the bread and real consumers. But the cost of it has made it impossible and thats why this agency is out of control. Martha it was originally designed to make all those big bad wall street banks pay the money back after the mortgage crisis, and they did, to the tune of about 18 billion. But Mick Mulvaney raised a really good point today. He said you know the wells fargo situation . How did they miss that . They are not protecting, they are not a protective entity where they are stopping thing from happening that are bad for consumers. Basically they did sort of the cleanup after the reporter broke the story on wells fargo. Should there be called the Consumer Protection agency at all . They really shouldnt, and you are right, it was the Los Angeles Times who was the one who became the watchdog. All the board did, the consumer board, they just got the money, but it wasnt for consumers who got the money that wells fargo coughed up. Thats why its nonsense. Big picture here is that the purpose of anything in government is to make sure there are checks and balances. This has no checks and balances. Its an administrative and regulatory body that has run amok and i just cant believe that the people in that agency didnt understand that, to quote president obama, elections have consequences. This is a consequence of a different president who believes that you shouldnt let Government Agencies just bully people. Martha i think this is a great story today because if it werent for this happening today in this sort of shuffle at the top of this agency, i think a lot of americans would not be aware of the fact that this was created and how sort of autonomous it is and how problematic that is in our system of government and whether or not it actually is protecting the people that it is supposed to protect. Governor, thank you very much, its always great to see you. Many thanks. Thank you. Martha still to come tonight, was the Intel Community order to cover up classified leaks by Hillary Clinton . The shocking comments that were just made by a former federal watchdog who has now decided to speak out. All of a sudden i became a shell of the right. I was told by members of congress, be careful, you are using to mike losing her credibility. Martha fascinating. Thats coming up. Also this tonight, senators conyers and franken say they are sorry they are going to head back to work. Nancy pelosi calls the man accused of working in his underwear and icon. Yeah. Can you say double standard . That is coming up, folks. And also, here we go again. The g. O. P. Senators blocking the white house agenda, is this politics or is this person will . The president says he will get tax reform past. Karl rove wheezing right after this coming up on the story. We will get there because failure is not an option when it comes to the Republican Party and cutting taxes. Every republican senator, the fate of the party is in our hands. When youve been making delicious natural cheese for over 100 years like kraft has, you learn a lot about what people want. Honey, do we have like a super creamy cheese with taco spice already in it . Oh, thanks. Bon appecheese okay. That one daddy its beautiful. Im the worlds greatest douglas fir. Im the perfect shape. Im the perfect color. My scent like making love to a lumberjack. But halfway home, my twine gets loose. 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But every day seems to bring a new defector. Senator steve daines montana saying he is the eighth republican that he might not be able to get ts on this thing. At this point ron johnson says he is still a no. The president met with republican members of the finance committee. They were at the white house this afternoon and when they came out chairman hatch said this. These are tough times, these are tough issues, they are to deal with. Im known for somebody who can bring both sides together so we dont want to ignore our Democrat Friends as well. I hope they will get off and start working with us instead of just blocking everything we try to come up with. Martha there you have it. Oklahoma senator james langford. Quite happy with us tonight. Thank you, good to see you again. Martha i think a lot of people look at this general legislative process and say what is going on . How was it that once again the white houses biggest problem are senators in their own party who wont get on board. Is not a matter of just getting on board, its resolving on the final issues and questions. There have been 70 hearings over the past couple of years just in the senate on this issue of tax reform. Each one of those is built on it as now it gets narrower and narrower and narrower to the final solution. Everyone has one less statement to try to be able to resolve it. Everyone is looking at a very complicated bill and saying what is it going to take to be able to get ts . I dont hear anyone in our conference saying they dont want to do it. Everybody wants to be able to do real, meaningful tax reform, but everybody has a little different opinion and we are trying to be able to work that out all the way to the bitter end. Martha you are a yes, right . Im still working on some final statements. I absolutely want to be able to get to yes. I want to work at some backstops behind the scene, but i can imagine not supporting this. We are trying to work out all the final details in the end. Martha lets put up the people of the board that are not quite at yes. As you say, steve daines of montana, ron johnson, lisa murkowski, senator collins, senator mccain, senator corker. You are on that list, flake is also on that list. Senator jeff flake. When you please some people, you sort of knock some people off the other end of the raft . What you think a sort of the main issue that needs to be wired out here . Thats the good news on this, theres not a one big main issue to save her. Everyone is trying to look at different aspects of it. Myself, bob corker are looking at the backstop issue to say if the revenue doesnt come in the way that we plan, what is the backstop to be able to help protect taxpayers in the future and our deficit issue . Ron johnson and steve daines are saying for the Small Businesses. How are they being handled, is this fair compared to the corporations, is there a way to be able to fix that . Others are looking at other spots. They are all trying to get it right at the end. Everyone is trying to get to the final solution to be able to solve this, but there are a lot of details and it is large and complex. Martha what about the individual mandate . Whats the likelihood that stays in the bill . I would certainly hope it stays in the bill. I think it will stay there. I do think taking it out thats correct. At the individual mandate is an important part of this. Not only important financial part, but its extremely important for the folks in the middle class. In oklahoma, 81 of the people that pay the individual mandate find it make 50,000 or less. These are individuals that cant open for the insurance anymore and they certainly can afford a new find from the irs so we are trying to be able to help those folks in the middle class not have that additional fine. This doesnt take away the subsidies. Ive had folks say those individuals will lose their subsidies, thats not true. Those subsidies still remain exactly as they are, but we take away the fine punishing those in the middle class that cant afford the extra insurance made exactly the washington, d. C. , way and they want to be able to buy back insurance they can afford rather than what washington, d. C. , is compelling them to buy. Martha you just put out the animal waste report in your claim that there is 4 30 7 billion in wasteful, inefficient spending. Where the cuts . This tax plan is sort of pay for on the backs of different people rather than asking the government, who has all of our tax dollars anyway, to figure out ways they can cut spending to pay for it. Theres two things that have to happen, we have to be able to reduce spending, deal with inefficiencies and fixed tax policy. You are right, this doesnt deal with all the spending aspects, its just the tax policy. There are a lot of bills that need to be done. Those come not in just one big bill but in a lot of small bills. We identified wasteful programs, wasteful grants. We defined areas with the federal government is not doing its job. We call it 100 ways the federal government has dropped the ball. This federal formal guy that we put out on our website, anyone can look at it for free. You get a chance to take a look at it. Its what we talked about over thanksgiving quite frankly at our table, to be able to walk through what is out there and what have we really seen, and how can we actually fix this. We hope to be able to deal with not only the spending issues but also the tax issue as well. But this week is just the tax issue aired in the days ahead, spending. Martha thank you very much, always good to see you. Good to see you as well. Martha karl rove, former Deputy Deputy chief of staff to President Trump thomas bush and the fox contributor. Do you think they will get across the finish line with this and what are your biggest concerns . I think they will get across the finish line. Some of this is background noise. Some of it is real concerns as people try and get some issues resolved. You pointed it out and senator lankford reported that out. Steve daines of montana, ron johnson of wisconsin. Their concern about the treatment of Small Business versus corporations. You have the deficit hawks, lankford, flake and corker who are concerned about whats going to happen to our deficit. Are we going to match this with some spending restraint . You have others that are concerned about whether or not the mandate, Susan Collins concerned about the repeal of the individual mandate is included. But i sense that this is a process that is coming together where there are people narrowing their differences, or nobody is saying its got to be my way or the highway. People are saying is there something we can do together about it. Martha kind of felt like that with the for the health care but too. And then we saw what happened. I think there are a lot of people who would like to see this happen who are concerned when they look at this and they wonder if the white house says if we want tax cuts and we want to make it easier for businesses, because we want to generate Economic Growth. Those are their two main goals that they want to achieve. Is there a possibility that there are sticklers who refused to get ts . There could be, but this smells different than the boat on health care because before on health care you didnt have so many people saying as lankford did, im trying to get there, or people like even ron johnson, im trying to be a yes. Ive got something i need, i want to try and get it and im willing to settle for some, maybe not all. And look, in this big complex piece of legislation, if you change the dial here, you can compensate for it someplace else. Unlike we are going to get rid of obamacare we are not. Your state is going to be better off or its going to be worse here. If you can do some of those dials. I think the biggest threat to the passage of this are the legitimate concerns that people have about what is this going to do the deficit and if i could just spend a second on that to show you what i mean. Martha sure. The cbo estimates that the senate bill is i think at no 1. 4 trillion to the deficit, the house is 1. 5 trillion add to the deficit. Thats really not completely accurate because of a thing called current policy. This in essence mean that hidden in that deficit number are 400 billion of offsets if we just simply let some things expire as they are supposed to expire. That will reduce the deficit to roughly about a trillion dollars over the next ten years. The federal government is supposed to take in 43 trillion in revenue over the course of that time, so the question is can we find two and a quarter cents in savings out of every dollar of revenue that we are bringing in . And that is the concern that lankford and others have, do we have a commitment to longterm restraint of spending so that the deficit doesnt really grow by a trillion dollars, or even more. Martha if your 437 billion in wasteful and inefficient spending as senator lankfords report says, i think you can find 0. 02 on the dollar, dont you . I do. Theres another thing in play here. The government does a terrible job of estimating what kind of revenue comes in from creating additional Economic Growth. In 2,000 for the Bush Administration led an effort to cut the Capital Gains taxes. The estimate was that it would generate 215 billion in revenue over the next four years. The actual amount was 377 billion because of Economic Growth so they were only off by 75 . And we are likely to see that on this as well. Right now the estimate 1. 9 annual Economic Growth. Every onetenth of 1 generates 270 billion over ten years. Martha Goldman Sachs is 3 34 . For use of 3 growth, a trillion dollars. Im not certain its going to happen like that but they do a lousy job of estimating revenue coming in. They do a better job of estimating spending going on. Martha thank you, good to see you. If you bet. Martha coming up on the story, the first time, new details on Hillary Clintons email scandals. Someone involved in the investigation of those emails is now speaking out. Plus, back to work for democrats accused of Sexual Misconduct. Is there a double standard happening here . Charles hurt and Jessica Tarlov join me next. I am embarrassed. I feel ashamed. 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. Today were bringing you americas number one shave at lower prices every day. Putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. As one of those workers, im proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. 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He isnt the only top democrat who was still on the job despite all of these allegations. Over the weekend congressman john conyers stepped down from his post as a ranking democrat on the powerful Judiciary Committee, but he says he still wants to stay in Office Despite the claims of Sexual Misconduct that have been made against him. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had this defense of the michigan democrat. Just because someone is accused, was it one accusation, is it two, i think john conyers is an icon in our country. He has done a great deal to protect women, the violence against women act with the right wing is now quoting him, he did great work on that. Martha you have that and then you also had her saying this. We are talking about a child molester. Where are you on senator franken . I dont think you can equate senator franken with roy moore. Its two different things. Martha heres charles hurt, Political Columnist for the Washington Times and Jessica Tarlov, offer author of americn egypt from. Both of fox news contributors. Is there a zero tolerance policy or not as chuck todd asked nancy pelosi in that back spinning answer. Jessica . And that she had to correct herself twice. She had to then walk back which he said to chuck todd, which i thought was completely wrongheaded based on the information that we have. John conyers used his office money to pay these sexualharassment settlements, which is taxpayer money. We go from icon, then we go to people need to be believed and then shes actually gone even further tonight, which we did well talk about tonight. Think she does believe the woman. Martha lets put that up. If jessica makes a good point. This is what nancy pelosi is saying just moments ago. This afternoon i spoke with melanie sloan, who worked for congressman conyers on the Judiciary Committee in the mid90s. She told me that she had publicly discussed distrusting g experiences while she was on his staff. I find the behavior she described unacceptable and disappointing. I believe what she has told me. Does that mean that she believes john conyers has to go . To me one of the most devastating accusations yet has been the accusation from melanie sloan. She is a known figure, shes a washington lawyer. Very, very widely respected. This was last week that she came out with her accusations against john conyers and went so far as to say that she reached out to the office at the time and made clear about these accusations about this abuse and this harassment and nobody did a single thing about it and this was however many i cant remember how long ago, but this was 15 years ago when these people were talking about what a serious issue this is and it is a serious issue, but if you have people that look at this the lens of politics and partisanship it will never get fixed, and you have al franken asking what the magic words are. I think the magic words are im a democrat. Martha it looks like it. This is nancy pelosi backman, 1998, defending bill clinton. Watch this. Why the silence when there have been these allegations, serious ones, about president clinton . I would like to say that i think the women of america are speaking out about what they think about this whole situation and the women of america are just like other americans in that they value fairness, they value privacy, and do not want to see a person with uncontrolled power, uncontrolled time, Unlimited Money investigating the president of the United States. Martha wow. This has become a huge issue for democrats, and we talked about this a couple weeks ago that there were suddenly off its coming out saying he should have resigned and a lot actually being pushed forward by my generation, by millennials, who in the 90s were really paying close attention. They wouldnt have fallen in love with bubba as people who work around voting for him saying how did the slide . Out of this go on . And i think that bringing it up now is important, but to charlies point, it does seem like the magic word is from a democrat or im a republican. Right now donald trump is not saying roy moore seems like a guy you want hanging out with their kids, but he saying we dont need another democrat in the senate, we are going to lose everything. We are ready barely have with our majority. I dont know that they will get tax reform across. So thats at least making the case. And for the future of the court i wish people would stop playing partisan politics but i would say that nancy pelosi did make a good point that what al franken is accused of and admitted to is very, very different from what roy moore did, which is different from what john conyers did. Martha i thought what nancy pelosi said about due process is very interesting. Thats the other part of this equation. If she wasnt talking about due process for roy moore, but the fact of the matter is that there is no process in this situation. Its sort of like groupthink and you either get fried when you get to live in the end. Absolutely. That is a very important part of all of this, but in the case of roy moore, i read that first account and i believed every word of it, and i think he ought to get out of the race, but im not an alabama voter and i dont make that decision, and the good people of alabama get to make that decision and they will make that decision on whether they believe the accusations or whether they dont believe the accusations, and that is not a bad way to make that determination. But going back to the thing about bill clinton. What i think is one of the most interesting aspects of all of this is that because so many of his defenders defended his behavior back then im going to a jessica said about the millennials in the first time that they heard so many of these accusations, to what degree all of that prevented the first woman from being elected president this year or even eight years ago, its a Pretty Amazing thing to think about. And i think it will continue as a problem for women. Martha thanks. 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But a new report by yahoo news says federal officials have serious questions about the credibility of the key witness in congressional investigation of Hillary Clintons role in the Uranium Mining Company to russian interest. The person who knows her story and what he knows better than anyone joins me know, victoria is the fbi informant attorney. Good to have you with us tonight. Welcome. Pico its good to be here. First of all, i would like to tell the viewers what exactly this uranium one is all about just so they can have the context. That is as early as 200910, the u. S. Government was well aware that the russian uranium industry, the Nuclear Industry for russia was corrupt and how did they know that . Because mike client was working undercover and providing them all the information about the bribes and the kickbacks and all the trips. Also during that time, 2009, 2010, the u. S. Government was well aware that putin wanted to dominate the uranium worldwide globally and part of that plan was to buy uranium one. And how did they know that . Because my client was providing them all the documents. Martha thats what you say hes going to testify to. I just want to get to this credibility issue and let you address that. The accusation is that in a prior unrelated case, prosecutors dropped William Campbell as a witness because they considered him to be unreliable. Did that happen or not . No. That recording is pathetic and naive and what few facts he uses in the story he has wrong. Let me give you an example. You just repeated the allegation that he said, the prosecution of the man involved in the russian bribery was unrelated to the sale in 2009. No, thats why the sale shouldnt have gone through, because in 2009 they were making bribes and threats. They are intimately related. Not only that, any sophisticated reporter knows full well that the russian Nuclear Industry is monolithic, all the companies, even if they have different names, all report to putin. He has not read one document. Martha i know you say this is a very documentbased case. Let me ask you something else, because when im interested in is while your client was undercover working on trying to figure out whether or not there was undue influence from russia and whether or not they were actually winning anybody or numbered in the Obama Administration, namely Hillary Clinton, what was the awareness people of the Obama Administration, and why werent they told all of this supposedly explosive information, and why didnt they derail this purchase if all of that was true . The question i am asking and reporters like john solomon and sarah carter are asking, my client was told by the fbi that the high officials at the fbi were being told about it. I dont know what that means bob mueller, but if it did i assume he would have reported that to eric holder, who was the attorney general and to settle the body who made the decision to sell uranium one. My client was told that president obama was being briefed on it and we can find out because congress can get the president ial daily briefings. I want to add one more thing. If the fbi gave my client a check for over 50,000 in 2016. Thats two years after he was socalled unreliable. And michael should have known that before he did the reporting period hes regurgitating things put out there by clinton supporters. Martha before i go, do you think it was because the Obama Administration decided that russia was so yesterday and there really wasnt anything to worry about so any concerns that were raised were just not that important and they werent really a force to be reckoned with . I think that they werent remember 2009, 2010, the big recess and obama thought that his charms were going to woo the russians and everybody would be hunkydory, and it didnt work out that way. Martha Hillary Clinton certainly doesnt feel that way now. Good to talk to you tonight. So a story that dominated the 2016 race and raised serious questions about the democratic nominee and National Security secrets, now the lid is being blown off the Hillary Clinton email scandal. You have not heard everything there is to know about this because one of the men was at the heart of the investigation has now broken his silence to fox news. What that Inspector General Charles Mccullough find out, and why was he on the list of people who was first to be fired if Hillary Clinton won the presidency . Tony schaefer on that next. Sarah is confident. Destroy. But when it comes to mortgages, shes less confident. Fortunately, theres Rocket Mortgage by quicken loans. Apply simply. Understand fully. 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If your uc or crohns medication isnt working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. Entyvio. Relief and remission within reach. Martha developing tonight, the man who knew all about the Hillary Clinton email scandal makes his silence tonight on Tucker Carlson in a fox news exclusive. If so what was really in those handful of highly classified emails that we heard so much about . Did she put our National Security at risk, and was the Intelligence Community and ordered to cover that up . Those with the questions. Inspector Charles Mccullough worked directly under James Clapper and he is now breaking his silence. All of a sudden i became a shill of the right. I was told by members of congress be careful, you are losing your credibility. There are people out to get you. Martha Tony Schaefer is a cia trained intel operative and senior fellow with the London Center for policy research. Could debbie with us tonight. What exactly did this Inspector General know . He was the guy, he was the lead investigator led to go through and examine every single email that was found on her server, especially those which have classified, or i rewatched his testimony just to remind me of what he said. Some emails that were beyond top secret, Even Congress couldnt see and for his work, for his 26 years working with the department of justice and the fbi, all this work, he was trying to be the fair arbiter of telling the truth and what happened was simply this. He told the truth during a time of political upheaval for the opposition, that being jim klapper, john brennan and all them, were coordinating with members of Congress Like Dianne Feinstein and the Hillary Clinton campaign. So what he found himself doing is trying to be an honest man, confronted with collusion of all the democrats who would come to the conclusion he found detailed residual hardcore classified information Hillary Clinton server. Martha Catherine Herridge did this interview and it will air specifically tonight on Tucker Carlson. She brings this information, asked to do this investigation. These more than classified documents, he brings them to James Clapper and says heres a way to god, what was his reason for shutting him up. My opinion of jim klapper has been welldocumented on this network. I will just say that apparently by his unwillingness to accept on face value of its conclusions, which were by the way to recommend Hillary Clinton for criminal charges and do a damage assessment, he did two things the opposite. He did not protect mr. Mccullough, that was his job. Thats her job as the leader. We protect the men who bring to the information. Secondly, to this day there has never been a damage assessment. Keep in mind, martha, if required by law any time you have a class of tomei, michael classified information to do a fullblown damage assessment. I and others are calling for hearings on this to find out why on earth we havent done what was required by law based on what mr. Mccullough found in Hillary Clintons email. Martha when they say that the james comey investigation constituted that assessment . Not at all. Completely separate. That was a criminal investigation which i and others would argue was not completely honest. This has to be done by intelligence professionals examining every email based on the likely compromise of that information. What would be the damage . Call comey did none of that. It doesnt matter if you are democrat or republican, we need to know what information was lost, period. Martha he said if you know mike she won he would be fired. Theres actually evidence of john podesta, the Hand Campaign manager coordinating with Diane Feinstein and what was to become a fan. Its inappropriate to even think about using the government for purposes of retaliation, but thats exactly what Hillary Clinton and her ilk were planning to do. Martha Tony Schaefer, thanks so much. Coming up next, time for something a little different. Prince harry officially off the market, ladies. He met the american actress and she will be his bride. Determination to keep going. Humira has a proven track record of being prescribed for nearly 10 years. Humira works inside the body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to symptoms. In clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear and many saw 75 and even 90 clearance in just four months. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal, infections and cancers, including lymphoma have happened as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. 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Tucker carlson is up next. Have a great night, everybody. Tucker geographic and welcome to Tucker Carlson sent to. A middle aged man going through divorce begins dating a man he met online. The relationship becomes torrid and eventually the man sends his girlfriend lewd text and nude photographs of himself. Several years later the two break up and in revenge the woman shares their private correspondence with other people. Nude pictures of the man wind up on the internet and ultimately in the media. He is ridiculed and humiliated. So who is the victim here . If you guessed the 68yearold man whose five grandchildren can now find naked pictures of him online you obviously havent been reading the washington