Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Story With Martha MacCallum 20171107

Every agency has their own expertise, and we are using that expertise to do to a very, very thorough investigation. As far as the investigation, which collected a substantial amount of evidence to piece together what happened here. Bodies have been removed and transported to the medical Examiners Office for autopsies. Substantial amount of evidence, physical evidence has been collected, including hundreds of shell casings, more than 15 magazines, 30 30 round capacity magazines. The suspect vehicle has been processed with the suspects body inside. Multiple interviews have been conducted in numerous cities and other states. Victims have been identified and next of kin have been notified. What needs to be done from this point, we need to finalize the list, identify the deceased victims, and complete the notifications to next of kin. We plan to have that done and release the victims names as soon as possible. Tonight, we hope to finish the evidence collection process, and we will begin forensic mapping and trajectory analysis tomorrow. What i can tell you is today, at the autopsy was performed on the shooter and if you notice, i use shooter instead of the suspects name. We do not want to glorify him and what he has done. The autopsy was conducted this morning, and what i can tell you is he sustained three gunshots. Two gunshot wounds were from the armed citizen, one of those was in the leg and the other was in the torso. And she had a third gunshot wound, which the medical examiner described as being consistent with being selfinflicted. Theres no change regarding the victims. We still have four in serious condition, ten in critical condition, and the number of deceased has not changed. Good afternoon. I just want to commend the commander from dps for not mentioning the shooters name. Certainly dont want to glorify what has happened there, a couple of campaigns out there, one is called dont name them, we dont talk about the shooter or see his name in the press so it doesnt encourage other people to do horrific acts like this. I can tell you that the scene in there is horrific, thats not even the word to describe it. I certainly want to commend the First Responders who went in there, fire, ems and police department. The fbi and dps ranger evidence teams that are in there now taking care of this. I think thats an important part we should always remember. I know theres a lot of questions about the fbi system, and how to the person get the weapons. I can tell you that the four purchases he made, the system did their required checks and there was no prohibitive information in the systems that we checked to say that he could not have purchased that firearm. There are three checks that are conducted, one is a criminal history check, and another one is on the system itself. All three of those databases, there was not information that we would say its prohibitive for that man to get the fire alarm. You very much. The question was, the third gunshot wound was to the head. The one that was selfinflicted. [indistinct] obviously everybody is taking a look at what happened there. I believe the air force released a statement about 30 minutes ago, so we are working with them to try to figure out what happened there. [indistinct] she was not. Was he fired from the army . We know he was released from the army, and we would have to refer to the air force on that. It was the air force. There have been unconfirmed reports that the suspect [indistinct] that is not true. He thought that the shooter might have attended the same church. Im not aware of the shooter attending this church. He had family members that attended, his spouse attended this church. Did you say that the grandmother in law was not . Because the grandmother in law . We are not aware of that at this time. Earlier you told us that the suspect called his father the families being cooperative. They have been cooperative and i really cant expand on that because of their cooperation and communications, and out of respect for them. One of the victims was reportedly pregnant. Will that change the number of murder counts . That number was included. One of the victims was pregnant. Was this intended to be a revenge shooting . I cant comment further on that. We know there was conflict between the families and whether that was revenge or not would be speculation on my part. We are not aware we are unaware if she has one of the victims or not. You cant say know for sure . I cant. The messages that the shooter sent to his mother in law . Beco i cant. The phones are being explored at this time, and i dont have that information. [indistinct] the crime was not racial, religiously motivated, if we say that right now he came to kill the mother in law . There are many ways that he could have taken care of the motherinlaw without coming with 15 loaded magazines and an Assault Rifle to a church. I think he came here with a purpose and a mission, and can you verify the weaponry . How many magazines . You said 15 earlier. There were 15 magazines collected here at the crime scene. How many of those magazines were empty . All of them. Thank you for coming out. We will have a briefing for you tomorrow, continue to follow us on twitter, and also through email as well. Martha new information there is this evening as we continue to move through this unbelievably awful story that unfolded in a Baptist Church in a small town in texas over the weekend. In Sutherland Springs texas to wrap up what we learned here and what we have learned so far tonight in the story. Good evening, matt. Good evening, what we just learned according to authorities, there was an autopsy performed on the shooter and that the shooter to sustained three gunshot wounds, one to the head, which the medical examiner says was selfinflicted. If you heard authorities there not choosing to name the shooter, they say they do not want to glorify him. Devon kelley, the shooter purchased for guns, and all of those purchases were done properly with background checks. There is no information in any National System that would have prevented the shooter from purchasing the guns, which makes sense with some of the information we learned just a short while ago, that the u. S. Air force did not report the shooters criminal records to the fbi as required by pentagon rules. Potentially making it much easier for the shooter to pass background checks and purchase these guns. It late today a Sporting Goods store in san antonio release statement saying that it has sold a gun to the shooter in 2016 and 2017 and that there he passed all the criminal background checks, which raises a lot of questions as to why he was allowed to get his hands on these guns. We understand that kelley, the shooter, was discharged from the u. S. Air force for bad behavior. He was courtmartialed and ultimately in prison for beating his wife and child, reportedly admitting to intentionally beating his child, so he was discharged from the air force. A lot of questions tonight. Why this man, who is being described as a monster, was able to get his hands on these guns that killed at least 26 innocent people in this church behind me. Martha right you are, a lot of questions about how he was able to get his hands almost guns guns given his criminal background. That is supposed to be prevented by having a criminal record. Thank you very much. We are going to talk about that part of the story in just a moment, but first, in terms of this horrific shooting and what it has done to this town of Sutherland Springs, texas, is absolutely unfathomable. You have eight people who were all across three generations of one family who were killed inside that Baptist Church. Brian, his wife carla, their son danny, noah, dannys 17monthold daughter. Crystal, the pregnant wife of another one of their sons. If an three of her five childre, emily, megan and greg. Joining me now is david, a family friend of them and he started a gofundme page to raise money for the family to help them deal with the funerals and with the future. David, i cannot imagine you look at that picture of that absolutely beautiful family and the remaining members of that family who have to deal with this unfathomable loss. Tell us about these people. I want you to know that john is a standup solid guy. I worked with him in the late 90s. Im an engineer, and john is an i. T. Guy, and he gave us tremendous support at the firms that we were cut together here in san antonio. And after we went in different directions, we kept in touch. John is a man of faith. He is motivated in everything that he does by what he believes. He seeks to love god and love people with every single thing that he does. And john found a wonderful woman to marry, crystal. Crystal was a widow with five children and john married crystal and took her children as if they were his own and he has always love them and cherish them as though they were his blood. Now john and crystal were expecting their first child together in this tragedy just brought a bitter, bitter and to that. John is one of those guys that you dont meet very many of that kind of person. Solid, you rely on them, and we need people like john and his family in this country. They are the salt that preserves us. Martha theres a gofundme page. I know people are listening and they just want to help. How did they do that . We set up a gofundme page. Its at go fund me. Com and it has an extension of Something Like john Holcomb Family till my funeral expenses. John has nine, eight or nine people to perry and his family all at once. Not only is he staggering under the emotional reality of what has happened, but now hes got to come up with funeral expenses, so we are trying to raise 72,000 to help john with those tragic expenses. Martha a good friend and a time of need and we will all keep his family in our thoughts and prayers, and it almost sounds cliche to say that after all of the shootings that we watch, but it is something that everyone can do, and we do that and we also will help financially as well and we hope other people will help that. Thank you very much for the tribute to your friend and his family, and we thank you for being here. Thank you, a real privilege to be with you. Martha here now with more on this story, mark, former l. A. P. D. Detective and Fox News Contributor. Candace, former fbi agent and criminal profiler. She is not a host of investigative discoveries deadly women. Good to have you both with us tonight. Im sad that its another one of these unfathomable killings, and i think people want to know how we can stop this. Candace, let me start with you, because you hear his profile, he assaulted children, split open the skull of his stepson. He assaulted animals, he assaulted his wife. This man was a powder keg and unfortunately we will get to the gun issue in just a moment, somehow he was able to get his hands we know he had the motive and he could have done it a number of ways, but he was able to get his hands on some missionary that helped him mow down most people in just a few minutes. Candace, tell me what you think about this man. Im sorry. Martha thats okay. It looks like hes a hothead whose answer to solving any problem he had was violence. And anybody that would cause a Skull Fracture in a child and start his own dog and beat the dog just doesnt belong in our society. The motivation i will speculate that it does certainly look like part revenge and part just venting his anger, rage, for whatever it was that was bothering him. Chances are he has been a brute and a bully his entire life and he likes to dominate other people through violence. Martha mark, when you hear this information about the air force, discharging him and then courtmartial in him. If that he spent i think about 21 months in prison for these Assault Charges to a woman, and to a young baby. How is it that that information isnt passed along to the fbi . Martha, i think it is supposed to be passed along but the department of defense, sometimes those things get dropped in between two federal agencies. I dont think anybody would find that surprising. But i think in the wake of this tragedy, i think there should be some Due Diligence that you have a check and balance on the military and the department of defense and ncic systems so this never happens again. Martha people wouldnt find it surprising, i find it extremely surprising. When you let someone out into the public, theyve been discharged and theyve spent time in prison for assaulting a baby and a woman, why would it not be part of their discharge to make sure that they are put into those databases . In other words, one of the databases for if not to prevent someone like this from getting their hands on a weapon that he took a picture of on his couch, and called it a name that starts with a b. He was so excited to have this gun. I agree with you, i think it should go farther than that and i believe candace would probably agree. I think any Domestic Violence should be a felony when you have a man that is of superior size and strength that abuses, hits, strikes a woman or a child, it should be a felony, and there should be mandatory and immediate psychological screening of that person. This person in the shooting had a mental defect that was so severe he murdered 26 people just because he was angry with his inlaws, or supposedly he was angry with his inlaws. This is a violent man but should not be out among us that is beating women and children, and then because of that he is out and hes able to do the shootin shooting. Martha its horrific and our system obviously does not work. This is very different than what we saw in las vegas. If there were a lot of markers for this man, as candace points out. As we know from his criminal background, its just unfathomable, and we need to fix the system. Too late for these tragic people who lost their entire family on the other people there as well, but it doesnt measure up and its not right. Candace, thank you very much. Mark, good to see you both tonight. We have a live update earlier this evening as you saw. Coming up next we will get into that. The United States of america stands in solidarity with the people of japan against the north korean menace. Martha President Trump plans to have more talktalk for the rogue nation. He heads to south korea in the next few hours. What message will he bring after his talks in japan . David bossi and governor Mike Huckabee with their unique takes on that, and other news in the Trump Administration when we come back. And in the span of a weekend, is the postclinton era over . To families who dominated american politics for decades now lashing out at the term political environment. Why their protest may signal a whole new era coming from american voters. Eras. Theyre defined by accomplishments. 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More martha breaking tonight, President Trump said to leave within the hour for south korea, a crucial part of this age or journey as the threat of a north Korean Nuclear strike escalates. It comes after a busy couple of days in japan with the president alongside our ally took a strong stance against the aggression that is presented by the rogue regime. The regime continued development of its unlawful weapons programs, including its Illegal Nuclear tests and outrageous launches of Ballistic Missiles directly over japanese territory. A threat to the civilized world, and International Peace and stability. We will not stand for that. The era of strategic patients is over. Martha chief White House Correspondent john roberts live in seoul, south korea where the president is expected to land just a few hours from now. Hi, john good morning to you from seoul, south korea. The president left his hotel in tokyo for just a short time ago. He supposed to arrive here in about three hours time. The first order of business when it gets here will be to visit many of the 37,500 troops that are stationed here in south korea at Camp Humphreys. If one plays the president will not going. There wasnt time to go to Camp Humphreys and the dmz. The president got a big show of support, as you mentioned, from the japanese Prime Minister shinzo abe yesterday in tokyo, despite the fact that the president has been roundly criticized for using fiery rhetoric against north korea, abe said yesterday at a press conference, early in the morning new york time, that he is 100 behind President Trump. Listen here. Japan consistently reports the position of President Trump when he says that all options are on the table. Some people said that my rhetoric is very strong, but look out what has happened with very weak rhetoric over the last 25 years, look at where we are right now. And the president striking an optimistic tone ahead of his meetings with south korean president moon. If the president tweeting early run from tokyo that moon is an fine gentleman, and that we will figure it all out. But moon, who has to live in the neighborhood with both north korea and china, has his own concerns. You saw some contentions in a dispute with china over an antimissile system that is stationed here. He will also meet on the sidelines of the apex summit in vietnam later on this week. If certainly they would like Nothing Better than to get into the middle of the friendship between the United States and south korea. Moon also tried to ratchet down tensions with the hermit kingdom, inviting north korea to participate in next years Winter Olympics here in south korea. While the president and president moon do see eye to eye and a lot of aspects of what to do about north korea, theres one area where President Trump is not very happy with the current status of relationship with south korea, and that is over trade. The president thinks that trade between the United States and north korea is neither free nor fair, nor reciprocal. Hes upset with the koreau. S. Free trade agreement and threatened to rip it up. That could be a point of tension between these two leaders when they meet here. Martha john, thank you very much. From seoul, south korea, tonigh tonight. David bossie with trumps 2016 president of citizens united. Mike huckabee former governor of arkansas. Welcome, great to have both of you with me tonight. Governor, let me start with you. The president i think hit the nail on the head when he said that rhetoric has been weak over the last 25 years, and it hasnt worked. Thats a very quantifiable way of looking at it in terms of how aggressive north korea has become during that time frame, you can add iran to that list as well. What does he need to do as he moves through this trip . I think hes doing it. If he bring james taylor over to sing youve got a friend when he visits japan or south korea, because he doesnt have to. He showing that the u. S. Is the friend, the friend that will stand up against the bully of north korea, and it will also stand up to china and tell them, look, we not only have military power, but we know what to do with it if we have to use it. That is not a message that is commonly heard by either north korea or china, certainly not during the eight years of the obama administration, when most of the time we were issuing apologies and we were backpedaling. This is a strategically important trip. I think the president is doing it in the order intentionally going to japan, south korea, and then the rest of asia. But the message is not just to the north koreans. The messages to our friends we are with you. But its also to those, either direct adversaries, or those that could become a china and north korea, and say dont mess with us because donald trump is saying ive got a big boot and i will put it in your butt if you mess with the United States. Martha such a uniquely governor huckabee way of putting it. For those of you who might forget after the horrific killings in france, john kerry decided it would be a good idea to send james taylor to france to sing youve got a friend and thats what the governor was referencing as well. Stephen bossie, your thoughts on this . Of the president doing this trip exactly the right way so far. Its been a very good trip to japan. The reagan style of peace through strength is really what we are seeing here. We are going back to peace through strength, which is what won us the cold war, without firing a single shot. Thats what the American People need to hear, and thats what world is now hearing. This president so cherishes the men and women in uniform and their blood a treasure that we have to spend and expand when we fight wars. We dont want to do that, he does not want to do that. Peace through strength is really so far his way of telling his enemies theres going to be repercussions. Martha governor, quickly before we go. Here at home, the Trump Administration is facing questions about wilbur ross, whether or not his businesses had a tie to the putin government, the russia Investigation Continues apace i guess. We wait forever for what the substance is of that. How does the president handle this . I dont think he deals with it while hes overseas. Hes got plenty on his plate. All of these are legitimate questions, they certainly deserve to be asked and answered. And they will be. You have to remember, wilbur ross has already been through a very thorough vetting process both in the trump organization, and then through the senate confirmation. Yes, all these questions are legitimate. They should be asked, but i dont think that will result in any big change. Martha to be continued, thank you very much. Great to have both of you with us tonight on a busy night. Good to see you both. Coming up next year, Donna Brazile in her own words on being handcuffed by the clinton campaign. They told us to shut up and basically let them won the election. Martha this as the g. O. P. Is witnessing a change of its own with a bombshell with no book offering an uncensored look at the bush family. It all begs the question, are the countries two ruling Political Parties gone as we know them . And as more Sexual Harassment claims emerge from hollywood, someone and saying it is rife on capitol hill as well. Former congresswoman mary bono bravely detailing the disturbing Sexual Harassment she faced in her time in washington, and what others what she and others are doing to put a stop to it she joins me next. 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Martha breaking tonight, no followup from former dnc chair Donna Brazile is part bombshell book on the 2016 election. And she has not stopped talking sense. Less than two months before the election she fearlessly considered that she might have to replace Hillary Clinton because of her illnesses when she saw her faint at the 9 11 ceremony. Then you got the other side of the aisle, another political dynasty that is seemingly, perhaps coming to an end because they are not aligned with the g. O. P. President presidency of President Trump. George w. Bush says that he fears he could be the last republican president. Joining me now, mark, author of that new book, the last republicans, inside the extraordinary relationship between george w. Bush and george w. Bush. Good to have you here tonight. They are extraordinary men and they have given an enormous service to this country in so many ways. 9 11 all the way back to world war ii. It is interesting that they are as such reserved people that they really are so outspoken and so against this presidency. I want to be clear that the revelations in my book, what they said about donald trump in my book was when he was a president ial candidate, not when he was president. Martha but they didnt take it back. They didnt take it back, but by the same token, thats truly how they felt back in 2016 but i think its very important to note that because they would not be critical of a sitting president. Democrat or republican. I think they respect the dignity of the office and they wouldnt compromise the president in that way. Martha president bush has recently spoken out about sort of the tenor of our politics and he spoke in veiled terms, a lot of people interpreted it as a bit of a slam. And there is such a hugely different types of people. I think they just great on each other. They are like oil and water, oil and vinegar. I think the bushes are emblems of decency, humility, civility, the greater good, and i think that that is very much an contrast in many respects with what we see from donald trump. Martha third sort of the other side of it in terms of the economy, in terms of whats happening in the world, and they are also seen by very conservative members of the Republican Party as being spenders. People who sort of allowed spending to get out of control in washington. Politically they are at odds with what g. O. P. Voters appear to want now. I think thats absolutely right. The bushes certainly respect the process. At the repudiation of the kind of republicanism that they symbolized and implemented as president. You are absolutely right. But i do think that there are shifts in any party, parties evolve. Just as the country evolves. And in some ways, this party has to define what it is in the trump era. Martha very interesting. We look forward to the book, thank you very much for talking with us tonight, good for having you here. Join now by charlie hurt, Political Columnist and Fox News Contributor and former chief Economic Advisor to president , welcome to both of you, good to have you. Boston, let me start with you on the democratic side, what you make of this really strong lashing out against the party and against Hillary Clinton by Donna Brazile . And then you saw the backlash the clinton people getting mad at brazile, and brazile getting mad back at them. I think that what is going on here is the democrats lost an election that they really felt like they should win and so everybody is kind of pointing fingers. It was your fault, well it wasnt my fault, it was your fault. And i think thats whats playing out here, but i dont totally know. Martha the clintons are done, right . They are finished. I cant imagine how they reemerge after this kind of scuffle and all of the dash this biography that she wrote, the most recent one, it has been rough for them. And it seems like it has definitely been rough for Hillary Clinton especially, but as i say, they want to relitigate these battles because everybody on the democratic side kind of look and said what happened, how did we lose this, and especially now that theyve seen what President Trump is doing, they are like how could we have not won that election . Somebody must have messed something up. Martha what happened . What a great name for a book. Charlie, what you think about the premise here that we are sort of witnessing and watching the end of these two huge political dynasty is that most of us grew up with. I think its fascinating and marvelous juxtaposition between the two parties. The crackup we are seeing in the Democratic Party i think is a long time coming, but there has been so much focus in the media on the republican side because donald trump came in, a pretty spectacular two years of political watching as he sort of routed the republican establishment and beat more republicans than he did democrats. But there were sort of a steam valve that he was allowed to get through and actually win. But we didnt realize or what we sort of suspected was going on the other side is you had this in surgeon in Bernie Sanders who is coming along and it was the same sort of standoff, but the clinton machine was so powerful and so connected all across the party that they managed to close that steam valve and now we are looking at a powder keg that i think is going to get much worse for democrats before it gets better. Largely because of the lack of honesty thats going on. Martha i think George Clooney said something today, i didnt hear the whole comment, there doesnt seem to be any sort of tenable 2020 candidate on the democrat side. And i wonder what you think, austin. If the clinton dynasty is done, if you can sort of put a fork in that moment of history, does the next democratic candidate look more like Bernie Sanders, or more like a clinton . I dont know, it might be some third thing. When barack obama ran into thousand eight, certainly this early he was not on many peoples radar screen outside of illinois. I think that the flaw that the dnc had, and the approach of the clintons that the Democratic Party had was one of anointing. If the Democratic Party has never really been that big on anointing. As bill clinton said, the Democratic Party once to fall in love. I think they should open the doors, lets have all kinds of different candidates and see who has some talent and who has some skill. Po and see who they can follow up with. Bill clinton is very good at falling in love. Martha thank you very much, we will see you next time. Coming up next, the new prince of saudi arabia has just arrested dozens of other princes and highranking officials in saudi arabia. They are being held in fancy Hotels Tonight under lock and key as he tries to make big changes in the kingdom. He is the fascinating 32yearold prince. He has decided to let women drive, can you imagine . So what comes next . Because remember, the bin laden Osama Bin Laden rose up to fight this kind of change in his own country, so what happens now . Marc theissen and james rosen weighin next. Gillette quality at lower prices every day. Brought to you by 1200 workers in boston were proud of giving you our best. Gillette. The best a man can get. [he has a new business teaching lessons. Rodney wanted to know how his business was doing. So he got quickbooks. It organizes all his accounts, so he can see his bottom line. Ahhh. Thats a profit. 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In the grounded all the private jets to make sure that people couldnt escape, and then they locked them in at the riata ritz because thats how they do things in saudi arabia. The list includes prominent billionaire investor who you have seen many times on business channels. He has shares in twitter, apple, our parent company, new score. If the target of President Trump back in december of 2015. Trim tweeted dopey prince wants to control our politicians with daddys money. Cant do it when im elected. Marc theissen is an American Enterprise Institute Scholar and a Fox News Contributor and james rosen is our chief washington correspondent, thank you, two very smart gentleman. James reported over the weekend and marcus been thinking about it today. What does all this tell you . Theres a number of things that could be going on, some of them are more generous and interpretations than others. Number one, there really could be corruption. Saudi arabia has a lot of corruption going on. This could actually be what it is said to be, a corruption cracked on. It also could be that hes clearing out a bunch of rivals. If you saw and other countries, like in china, the president has used corruption charges to clear his rivals in the Chinese Communist party and the reality is this is a 32yearold prince was allowing women to drive, as he pointed out, cracking down on extreme clerks and has a lot of the old guard were resisting him. It could also be a money grab. These are incredibly wealthy people that have been arrested. By some reports, theres half a trillion dollars at stake here in the hands of these corrupt saudi princes that could go to the treasury. This could be simply a matter of consolidating money for a country not doing all that well. Martha you point out besides being a face of more moderate policy in saudi arabia, he is also loosening up some of the religious rules, to a certain extent. Thats a very big deal. Yes. At this 32yearold crown prince in the nottoodistant future, will be the king of saudi arabia. His whole family knows that, everyone in the country knows that, and hes gaining strength. What hes trying to do is diversify the economic portfolio away from its historical reliance on oil, and as you say, liberalize the laws on foreign relations. Why . These two objectives in turn lead into a third more overarching plan, which is called the vision 2030 campaign. Its an attempt to position in the kingdom and the 21st century and among its goals is to boost the ranking on the Global Competitive index from 25 to a slot within the top ten countries. What really the crown prince is betting here is that his demography is destiny. If you got over 100 Million People in the middle east fork just around the age of 30. That is an unprecedented youth cohort in the history of the region and he seems the future and a more open brand of islam. Martha thought can have repercussions, as we all know. Osama bin laden fervor really began in anger at his own country, that he felt that it was becoming too liberalized, and pulling away. That angered him, so it built this relationship for the saudis sort of kept the terrorists at bay on their own country and it exploded and hours and in others. Is there going to be a backlash against this prince . There certainly could be, although the other interpretation of that is, quite frankly, the saudi government has been giving a wink and a nod to the clerics who have been preaching radicalism as long as they werent focused on saudi arabia. As long as it was externally focused, then it was okay. The prince goes by his initials, hes cracking down on some of these clerics and saying we will not do that anymore. I think of saudi arabia wants to be a modern country and be a part of the modern world, then it cant give a wink and a nod to them anymore. Martha fascinating. More to come on that story. A quick break, we will be back with more from capitol hill tonight and there may too campaign. I know what its like to lie awake in bed at night wondering if i was the one who had done something wrong. Martha that was california congresswoman jackie spear revealing that she had disturbing encounter when she was a congressional staffer. She and others joining the metoo campaign, bringing attention to the issue of Sexual Harassment in the workplace, including on capitol hill. My next guest served in congress and has her own story to share in an exclusive interview with us. Mary bono is a republican, good to see you, welcome to the show tonight. Thank you. Martha tell me what happened to you and why you decided to speak out. Its very interesting because i didnt actually mean to speak out, i was called by a reporter and she had heard sort of stories way back when about Sexual Harassment happening so i agreed to speak with her. Whats been interesting is that since i did speak out a little bit how many women are coming up to me and thanking me, and these are women from the highest ranks of corporate world down to young women were just beginning their career, a lot of women are just saying wow, thank you, this really resonates. Whats important to me what happened to me was very minuscule, it wasnt like the Harvey Weinstein sort of predatory thing, it was offhanded comments that went on too long and might have been demeaning, but whats important to me is that we give women actually anybody who was a victim of Sexual Harassment, we can empower them with better ways to handle it at the time rather than live for years and years and years and think about it. Martha the gist of it is that he talked about wanting to take a shower or something, and its obviously completely inappropriate talk, but this person is still serving on capitol hill and i know that you do not want to identify him. Why do you make that decision . To feel like it could be helpful if you did point a finger, as so many others have done . What was important was this talk it sort of happened over and over and over and finally one day i said knock it off, this is just not appropriate, its not right and its not cool, and i served with that member for many years after that and it never happened again and i think it was sort of eyeopening for him. I think he recognized it was an appropriate, it was locker room banter, and when you are 20 of the congress are women, i think the guys sort of get maybe sometimes too careless and they just dont recognize that its demeaning and it may be kind of knocks you down and separates you. Martha i think thats whats so disturbing about it. It has been set. Its not really sexual, its more of a put you back in your place, right, because you are a woman because you have risen up to this position and does this kind of a guys club and we want to make sure you understand where your spot is, right . I think to some degree, but i also felt that some men did not know how to actually communicate with a woman other than talking that way. Again, i dont name names because i was lucky that it was a teaching moment for me, that i found my voice to say knock it off, this isnt right. It was a teaching moment for him as well and if he hadnt changed his behavior, if i was offended for many years after that it might be a different story, but he did, and that is what is important, that people stand up, be empowered, and say enough is enough. Martha you look at the industries that this has spanned, women speaking out on capitol hill. They have to be a lot of men that are very worried that one day one news story could ruin their career, and its a very real fear in this environment right now. Do you think that this is the moment when a lot of this changes . One we kind of leave this era behind, is that possible . Yes, if we do it carefully and thoughtfully. There is a huge extreme between the Harvey Weinstein example of predatory harassment onto a simple common. Martha a wide range. Im quick to say to a colleague of mine, you look nice today, male or female. You dont want that to stop. There are gradients. Martha you dont want to live in a world where you cant say that. The pendulum could swing too far, i understand what youre saying. After leave it there, but thank you so much for joining us tonight. Former congresswoman mary bono. If we want to take you to this life picture before we pass it f to tucker. 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