0 night, the senate and president will never go along so obama care will kick in on october 1st. no matter what. but republicans aren't going down easily. on another front, the g.o.p. wants to cut the record spending on food stamps. 5% over the next 10 years. yesterday, the vote in the house was 217 to 210 to do that even though the cut is small, the senate and the president will not go along. when president obama took office, 40 million americans were living in poverty. four years later, 46 million are poor according to the u.s. census. this year, 2013, the feds will receive the most tax money in history. about $2.5 trillion. even with all that cash. feds are are running a deficit of almost $650 billion a year. you can see how much money the obama administration is spending. much of it on social programs. but despite all the entitlement spending, the poverty rate continues to rise. and it's not only the poor who are suffering. the past four years american workers have not gained anything in salary. as the median income remains stagnant. so while price goes up, your salary does not. but rich people, they are in good shape because their stock investments are rising. the cold truth is president obama's vision of income equality is a failure. obama care will make it harder for small business to hire regular folks. if you raise the minimum wage as the president wants it do. fewer teenagers and young people will be hired. here is an interesting fact. just 3%. 3% of americans over the age of 25 make minimum wage. so if you raise it, fewer young people will get into the job market. talking points believes president obama has to understand the stats i just gave you. he has to know his policies aren't working. yet, liberal ideology is so invested, parton the pun, in taking money away from successful americans, and giving it to those that don't have very much, that they can't stop. even when liberal policies are hammering the poor and working classes. do we all understand what's going on here? the democratic party will never admit that. it can't it needs to tell americans who are struggling that handouts will help them to get their votes. and while that may be true in the short-term, in the long-term, the nanny state is harmful. cradle to grave entitlements weaken people and the nation. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction from fox business anchor lou dobbs and here he is. are you okay with the republicans attempting to shut down the government? >> i'm okay with the republicans, bill, trying to shut down obama care. 70% of americans oppose it. the fact is that the offers, some of the authors, democratic authors of obama care consider it to be a train wreck as does obviously the speaker of the house. what they are trying to do is fund obama care to stop the damage before it. >> i don't know. if i may. the fact is what they have done is try to defund obama care, but, at the same time, fund the government which is precisely what their legislation does. >> never going to get through the senate never in a million years. >> that's the senate wants judgment. that's the democratic leader's judgment. not that of the republicans. their choice, if they decide to deny what the house has sent them will be to put and give prime is i to obama care by the way most of whom are opposed to it themselves and, in fact, defund the government, not obama care. >> bill: that's not the way it's going to be portrayed to the american people. >> that's a different story. >> are you going to go door to door to 150 million american homes and tell them that? because it's going to be spuns, as you know. >> we have got a head start right here tonight. >> look, because this is a serious issue. it's going to be spun by the media and the president. >> sure. >> and those with the bully pulpits is here are the republicans again wanting to throw the whole country off the cliff and wanting to punish you. the independents, many of them will buy it so that's my thinking. don't do it because in the long run it's going to hurt the republican party. i'm not rooting for the republican party here. i'm rooting for the country. because i happen to agree with you that obama care is not a good thing. it is going to hurt the country in. >> devastate it. >> bill: only way to get rid of it is for the republicans to regain power. they will not regain power if they are seen as being the party of, quote: disarray, unquote. >> i think you are siligism. >> word of the day. do you want to explain that to me. >> you are making great sense here, partner. >> bill: thank you. >> we don't have to go door-to-door. the american people are a hell of a lot smarter. >> bill: no they are not. they elected barack obama last year. don't give me that. >> do you want to go back and revisit that choice that was before the american people? >> bill: i am telling you it's a different country than it used to be. people are voting their self-interest now. >> if they are voting their self-interest then they will support the republican efforts to defund obama care. >> bill: i think you are living in the land of oz here. the republican party continues to be perceived as the party of anarchy and chaos. not going to get anywhere. >> you listen to senator harry reid call them anarchists. you listen to nancy pelosi call them arsonists. how can anyone rational, and well-red think that they are anything about bizarre. >> bill: if you are rational and well-read, i agree. most voters, unfortunately, are lacking one or the other. lack, we -- i just laid out and in vivid terms, all right? what is the term you used. >> i said very sensible. very rational. >> bill: give me the word what was the word? >> syligish. >> i laid out with siligsm and i didn't each know i was doing it getting hammered by the president and getting killed by his policies. the policies don't work, all right? but they still voted for him because the republican party couldn't crystallize the syligism are all right, that they needed to. >> if the republican party -- by the way i think they made great strides. if the republican party cannot communicate its efforts, its values and the results then that is a different matter. the truth is that they have the correct idea and the correct policy. if they can't communicate it then as you suggest it will be a difficult 14 for them. >> bill: ed henry has a shootout with jay carney. very entertaining. >> herald on whether billie ray cyrus being a good father to his daughter ♪ [ engine revs, tires squeal ] [ male announcer ] since we began, mercedes-benz has pioneered many breakthroughs. ♪ breakthroughs in design... breakthroughs in safety... in engineering... and technology. and now our latest creation breaks one more barrier. introducing the cla. starting at $29,900. ♪