0 most that have been addicted to drugs. in other words, if you can find out the worst community that the government has not responded to, i'm afraid that you will find these crimes against each other. it's people without hope for the future is people that don't have education that do these things and we have to do all we can to eliminate it. not just by taking their guns off othe street but by improving the conditions in that community. >> because right now i believe 73% of black children are born out of wedlock. it's not the government's fault that that is happening. it's not the white man's fault that that's happening, is it? >> well, i hope you are not saying that the children are that are born out of wedlock are born with guns in their hands. >> i'm not saying that but. >> i hope you are not saying that. >> they're not killing people at the same rate as black teens are. >> i don't know why you are bringing up kids born out of wedlock. want to talk about the martin case, he was not born out of wedlock and so i don't see why you would raise that when we're talking about the killing of a young guy in florida by a fellow that was over zealous. >> my only point is that young black men are 10 times more likely to commit homicides than whites and hispanic men combined. >> well, that sounds like an invitation for the zimmermans of the world to start shooting them down. have a great day. >> you don't think that zimmerman is more of a threat to black america than some the other factors like high school dropout rates and narcotics? >> i didn't before but now that i have seen the results of the zimmerman trial, it could be that if he is thinking like you are thinking, yeah a lot of young blacks could be shot down just because they are black and suspected to be what you think they are. have a great day. >> thank you, congressman. >> all right, here now is jesse watters. i don't know, look, that's just ridiculous. he didn't want to talk about the out of wedlock birth rate. >> no, he did not. >> bill: did not want to talk about that at all. >> wanted to bring it back to zimmerman each time. i wanted to try to talk about that he wanted to dodge and deflect. i can understand why. it's very painful. the white community having trouble like the black community you wouldn't want to talk about it it's incredibly embarrassing. >> bill: the other thing is congressman rangel has no tract record at all in disournlging that or inviting a so-called conversation -- i hate that word. he just steers clear of it and that's why he wouldn't come in here. he was disingenuous uptop he knows we were trying to get him. >> asked point blank first he never then he said his staff never told him and then finally came around and said he actually seen your program didn't like the tone that's why so the story changed. >> not telling the truth there i like rangel personally. he is one of whom won't get to the heart of the problem. they don't understand, they being the grievance industry and the civil rights industry that that is driving all of the off chutes the unintended consequences of this chaos is leading to the zimmerman martin situations and -- >> -- if you are a leader in the black community you can get patronage, power, and a lot of money by exploiting these grievances. >> all right, watters. maybe the congressman will change his mind and come in here. >> we will see about that. >> bill: next on the rundown, instead of dealing how drugs are devastating many inner city communities, some liberal people blame it all on the justice system. we'll get to the bottom of that. and, later, miller on the royal baby. caution. this could be a real problem for u.s. british relations coming up. we're coming right back.