0 ingram, and how do you read this. >> well, if the allegations are true, he's going to have to step down. >> bill: he'll go to prison. >> yes, we're talking about politics for a moment. and harry reid, i understand that he wants to write off anything that the daily caller is saying, and they backed off everything said for the day, but basically, they're punching on anything said before senator menendez. when you're a public official and elected, six, seven weeks ago by the people of your state to represent them, you have to hold yourself out as someone worthy of the trust of the public. and the late payments for the jet trips not withstanding, he violated senate ethics rules by not reporting those as significant gifts, and that in and of itself is serious. >> bill: he took the trips in august of 2010, and reimbursed the government in january of 2013, after the daily caller exposed the story. >> what it reminds me of a little bit is what happened with the john edwards story. of course one publication, the national enquirer was covering it, and pretty much every stayed away from it, and poo pooed it, and a significant time later, the national inquirer was right and they had done good reporting. i don't know the background of the reporting on the daily caller, but there's significant reporting on multiple women who have specifics on dates, times, and places, and what was paid and what he liked and didn't like, and maybe it was all fabricate and i certainly hope for him and for the country, that's not true >> bill: all right, the problem with the women is, that they are in the dominican republic. they are in a shadowy industry, and these are not law-abiding citizens coming forth, as you know. a lot of money changes hands in these things, and you can bribe criminals to say anything. >> secret service gambled with women too who were supposedly untrustworthy and turns out they were telling the truth. >> bill: but here's the bigger picture. there are certain countries in the world that specialize in this kind of thing. island of hispaniola, which comprises the dominican republic and haiti and type land is another and hong kong where the children are trafficked. and the dnr goes there for that specific reason. >> that's the reason >> bill: number two, the situation has to be-- i'll say once again. i don't know menendez, and i've never met him. but i'm going to believe himself as an american, when he says this is bull. i believe him. because i think that's the fair thing to do. but i think it has to be investigated. now, the fbi never comments on investigations. we know, as i say, they raided this doctor's house, and they know this is a sleazy guy, this doctor. so we have a lot of circumstantial evidence looking back. >> in the senate, bill, you don't have to be convicted of anything to be found guilty of wrongdoing >> bill: this committee has got to sanction him, it has to. >> bill, let's just forget this though, i think that you're right, giving people the benefit of the doubt is the right thing to do, until the evidence becomes beyond office if it does. but let's just remember. we just came off of a year where the he democrat theme was the war on women. that was one of the main themes of this campaign, and we just saw senator menendez earlier the super bowl. some arab americans saying that it insults them. and watters does not insult al gore but catches up to him on the streets of new york city. [ metal rattling ] ♪ hello? boo! i am the ghost of meals past. when you don't use new pam, this is what you get. residue? i prefer food-based phantasm, food-tasm. poultry-geist works too if you used chicken. [ laughs ] resi-doodle-doo. [ female announcer ] bargain brand cooking spray can leave annoying residue. but new pam leaves up to 99% less residue. new pam helps you keep it off.