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[shouting] give me those. Bill a new move to shame americans who are overweight. They say the shaming is healthdriven. But is it really . Cannon ball. Caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. The factor begins right now. Bill hi, im bill oreilly, thanks for watching us tonight. Barack obama and Hillary Clinton friends forever. That is the subject of this evenings talking points memo. Disappointing interview on 60 minutes last night. I didnt learn very much. In fact, i didnt learn anything. The theme seemed to be the world is a dangerous and complicated place. We also live in a dangerous world. And, you know, the people im proud to serve and work with in our diplomatic and Development Personnel ranks, they know its a dangerous and risky world. It is a dangerous world and thats part of the reason why we have to continue to get better. We live not only in a dangerous but an incredibly complicated world right now with many different forces at work. Bill summing up, we live in a world that is incredibly complicated and dangerous. Good to know. Now, i respect 60 minutes and steve kroft the interviewer. I dont know why he didnt ask hard questions. If you know, please tell me. You dont have to be disrespectful. All you have to say is, hey, mr. President , why did yourselves, who is sitting right next to you, not go on the sunday shows to explain what happened in benghazi libya . Why did you send the u. N. Ambassador to do that when susan rice obviously didnt know anything about it . Thats respectful question. Is it not . Here is another one. Mrs. Clinton, when did you learn about the assassination of libyan ambassador Christopher Stephens and why didnt you hold a press conference when the Intelligence Community told you it was a terrorist attack . Not a complicated question. Is it . Just those two questions could have enlightened the American Public about the libyan disaster. But you know what . I dont think steve kroft even cares about libya. And most other National Media dont care either. So the bottom line is we the people are not going to be told what happened over there. President and secretary clinton are not going to it answer any questions about it. Are not going to be forth coming. And we cant make them. Its partially our fault because we the people dont much care either. If we did care, it would have been a big campaign issue. But it wasnt. Mitt romney wouldnt even concentrate on it during the Foreign Policy debate. The truth is the assassination of the ambassador and three other americans by terrorists in libya has not engaged in the American People. President Hillary Clinton know that they also know that the National Media adores them. And thats a fact. Thats the memo. Now for the top story tonight, there is no question 60 mince interviews would a big win for president obama and secretary clinton. They got great pr out of it. Joining us from washington is senior political analyst brit hume. Yesterday i you told Chris Wallace that you think Hillary Clinton should not be described as that great secretary of state. Why . Well, first of all, its no, not easy to be a great secretary of state. Foreign policy is a province really of the president. The secretary of state is the person who is his emissary and he is expected to direct the diplomats to carry it out. So thats point one. Point 2 is, that she has worked very hard. She has traveled all over the place. Set some record, some 112 countries. The list of achievements that can be attributed to her is not long and is not major. I mean, how well is the reset with russia worked out which she was very much involved in starting . How are things between arabs and israelis . Closer to peace than before . How about iran . North carolina . Their Nuclear Weapons programs. Have they been retarded, held back, halted . No, i dont think so. So you look around for a clinton doctrine, has she articulated as kind of a Foreign Policy intellectual, a new way of thinking, a comprehensive doctrine for Foreign Policy or doctrine for any particular reason . I would say not. What about major treaties . Has she engaged in negotiations that led to the signing of major treaties or any major treaty . The answer to all of those questions appears to be no. These are the kind of things that might put you in the category of a great secretary of state. Im not saying she hasnt tried hard. She has certainly worked hard. She has behaved with dignity and certain grace. No big blunders blurting out the wrongening in the wrong place. She does her homework but great . I dont think great. Bill you left out the arab spring which is developing into a debacle. Syria another debacle. Why didnt steve croft ask those questions secretary of state and president clinton right there could have done a laundry list of hey, look at this, look at that afghanistan not really going our way now but he didnt ask any of that. , he didnt be and i have been trying to put myself in his position, i have done some interviews with president s over the years. I remember particularly doing one with president s bush 41 and 43 together. And there was a novelty factor about seeing them there together like that which led me to focus to some extent on their relationship and what role the first president bush had played as an advisor to his son and so forth. There was novelty to this interview. Unusual. Kroft remarked upon that the whole interview seemed devoted to their relationship. Guess what . They have, according to them, a great relationship. Bill why is that news worthy . Im not saying it is. Im saying its one thing to devote part of an interview to that. Its another to kind of basically turn the whole interview to one or two questions. Bill both of us know croft. Croft is good, right . He he is good. Do you think is he good or i think, no i think steve kroft. I has always admired steve kroft. I will say this if you look back through the history of the interviews he has landed with barack obama. He has never been tough on obama. Never been tough on obama. Bill we called the obama people and they still take our calls and they said we didnt put any restrictions on kroft. He could have asked anything. We said he had 30 minutes. He could have asked anything. We didnt tell him dont talk about libya or the arab spring. Could have talked about anything. I dont know why. Maybe i will run it to steve some place in manhattan and ask him. It was a soft interview. We didnt really learn anything other than the world is a complingted and dangerous place. Did you know that before, human . Did you know the war was a complicated and dangerous place . Yeah. I kind of thought that. So we knew all of that. We learned it again which might have been instructive. We got nothing out of that and then, you had Hillary Clinton standing there. Believe me. I think greta has got him. Maybe greta i dont know. Brit greta has her. She is in a tough situation. She only has 12 minutes. Bill give me 12 minutes with her hume. I will take 12 minutes with the secretary. Do you know what im talking about . We have colin powell here tomorrow night. Wait until you see, this hume. I look forward to it. Bill its a matter of budgeting your time. As your mom told you you have to budget. You cant be from it terring it away with questions like oh, are you guys mad of each other or what . Who cares . [ laughter ] hume, do you want to take the last word . Or you have had enough of me. I would say its always a little difficult to do an interview with the president in that this sense courtesy that other officials including former secretaries of state for example but even. Bill i will get new a moment. Even with all of that it was a pretty soft interview no way around it. He he is in good company. There have been a the love interviews with this president. Bill why is the American Press so infatuated with barack obama and Hillary Clinton . We will try to find that out. Later big immigration debated will republicans spearhead reform to try to get on the bill joining us from washington sally quinn. Editor of the Washington Post on faith section. Judith miller fox news analyst. I understand you just talked to steve kroft, correct . I did. Bill he said . He said the only constraint on that interview, there were no conditions, even though the white house approached him, the only limitation was one of time he said he knew he only had 30 minutes. He could concentrate either on relationship between former rivals and now partners and now admirers on each other or he could concentrate on Foreign Policy. She had just testified on the hill. Spent hours testifying. He didnt think he was going to be able to advance that story so he chose to concentrate on the relationship. Bill do you think that was wise decision in hindsight after looking at the interview. Im not interested in their relationship. Did you know the world was a dangerous place. I kind of suspected it was. Bill how about you . Did you know how dangerous and complicated the world is . Well, thats not what i came away with. I came away with the question why would he want to do this . And why would he want to do it with hillary . And i think probably part of the reason is that the worst kept secret in washington is that Hillary Clinton and the state department does not make policy. Tom donilin, the National Security advisor and his team make the policy. And that hillary literally for four years has gone out around the world, being the face of the United States and representing the president , but it has been. Bill pr person you are saying . Yes, yes. Its been a very frustrating role for her because she is mart and she has a lot of good ideas. Bill she was a good soldier and this was the way reto reward her . I think thats one reason. I think partly because they wanted to reward her for doing. This partly it was a thank you to bill clinton who really worked hard for the president. Ms. Quinn, that is good inside stuff, and that may well be the president s motivation for him doing it. But steve kroft could have zeroed in on Hillary Clinton and said what brit hume just said or what i have been saying about benghazi, libya and saying, you know, hey. You are not going to learn anything. Bill believe me, you dont have to learn if you ask the right question and they dodge the question, all right, and the Congress People didnt ask the right questions. Very simple as i said in talking points memo, ms. Quinn, why didnt you go on the sunday shows . What was preventing you from doing that you her in charge, is he your guy. Why werent you out there . Come on, im a simple man, you know that better than anyone, simple question, answer it. [ laughter ] am i right or wrong here . What . I figure very complicated and dangerous man. Okay. Very dangerous. Im sure hillary would agree with that im complicated and dangerous as well. If you ask the question and she doesnt answer it. You got your answer. She is not going to engage. But she did bill lets let judy. So far so many of the republicans, bill, have been grandstanding. Bill they are a bunch of pinheads, we know that but kroft has his big forum for 30 minutes. He he just didnt think with the two of them there and the two of them getting to speak that he was going to be able to get an answer out of it. Bill are you kidding me . You tried. Wouldnt you have tried . You have been a journalist for, what, decades, right . I would have tried but so has he. He had to make a judgment call about what his audience wanted to hear. All right. I bet you most americans really wanted substance rather than rather than the jimmy kimmel show. Do you know what im talking about, sally . Do you know who jimmie is are you guys still mad . Hey, hey. Come on. We have got a dead ambassador over there. We dont know what the hell happened. I totally agree with judy. I mean, and i think steve kroft did exact will the right thing. I thought it was 30 minutes of fascinating television to watch the two of of them together who we know there has been so much tension. Bill go on dancing with the stars then. You know . Hey, bill. This is important stuff. Bill, its been reported so many times that obamas have never invited the clintons to the white house. And i tried to check this out. And i got wawld by the state department and the white house. So, what does that mean about their friendship . They talk about being warm and close and friendly and all of that. Go to washington. I know you no one cares. The folks dont care. Judith, last word, go. But, bill, you also said the American People dont care about benghazi. Not enough. If they cared, we would be getting some answers. Bill romney had a big chance too and he didnt take it. Absolutely. Bill all right, ladies, very fascinating. Directly ahead will the Republicans Supreme CourtImmigration Reform that will be favorable to illegal aliens . Chubby americans. Some people actually want to shame them. Have a controversial report on that upcom straight talk. Look at the last election. We are losing dramatically the hispanic vote, which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons. And we have got to understand that. Joining us now from washington, Mary Katharine ham and Juan Williams. Both fox news analyst. Juan, i know you want Immigration Reform. I do. What about the 37 of immigrant families and for Illegal Immigrants the number is 47 . That are some kind of means tested welfare . Should that be part of the legislation . Because what im getting at here is i understand the political strategy. I think everybody does. G. O. P. Needs to get more hispanic votes. But if you legalize everybody thats here, and they get more on the welfare entitlement train. Which they are now. I dont know if thats good for the nation juan. You know, look, i agree with you about welfare and fraud. I mean, seems to me we have an issue with fraud of any kind. We need to eliminate it let me just say i think you are framing this question completely wrong, bill. I think that in fact, immigrants generate economic activity. They hype g. D. P. He hype consumer spending. Immigrants create jobs i think like 18 of small American Business owners are immigrant. When you get to about 16 of the population is immigrant. About a third of our edge fleers, of our scientists our doctors. Bill thats all correct. Immigrants drive achievement in america and always have. I dont think any sane people disagree with that you are overlooking this enormous and it is enormous. 47 of Illegal Immigrants receive means tested taxed one out oof two. They are tough eligibility requirements. One out of two, juan. Thats the stat. Let me just say, in addition to which, immigrants pay taxes and oftentimes are not eligible. Bill juan, its one out of two. You see what you are adding here . All right. Mary katharine, how do you see it . Well, i think you could hard that in this case if those immigrants who are illegal and on welfare got the became legal or had some sort of legal status that perhaps they would be paid higher wages and that was a problem that would maybe work on itself. As far as the political situation goes here. I dont think this is a magic pill for republicans and i dont think a lot of them are fooling themselves into thinking that i think it is a platform from which you could have this discussion. As far as obama manhattanning to pass it im a little curious about that for four years he didnt raise a finger on this. In 2007 he actually helped tornado tore torpedo that doesnt have to run again. 66 of americans, two thirds, all right . Support a pathway to citizenship. Yes. 66 . 17 say send the illegals back home. 13 want to aguest Worker Program for them. So any president. Any sitting president. Particularly a liberal guy is going to say all right, im going to get on this train and im going to drive the train and then john mccain is saying john mccain is no liberal. Bill no, but he is doing it for political reasons, juan. I dont know if he is doing it for the good much the country. Wait a minute. Hold on. Stop this train. Dont forget that this was blocked under president bush, president bush a republican. President obama voted for a the poison pill. Just a second. It was blocked by the far right. And the far left and unions and barack obama. Absolutely demonized every immigrant as some kind of threat to america. The attack came from both flanks. And the attack also come from both flanks again. Bill let me be the source of light here instead of heat for once. Its a different time then, juan. We had very big Border Security problems then. And now the Border Security is a lot better. So the debate in the story can progress. I think we need Immigration Reform. But i do think that they have to deal with the welfare situation. Because if you are going to add another 6 million people, and, believe me, when welfare gets when welfare, when Immigration Reform gets passed, that means the people in the other countries are going to be able to come here. You have a flood of new immigrants into the United States. Not just the 12 million that are here, but probably another 12 to 15 that will join them. You have got to deal with this problem. I dont think either party will do it but thats where im coming from. I think your conservative friends are going to make sure that, in fact, people who overstay their visas, which is is about 40 of the illegal population right now, that that stops. They are going to have really tough exit requirements to make sure those people leave. I hope so. Get 12 million more. Go ahead. I think the fact that rubio and jeff flake and some and mccain are at the top of this and sort of pushing it forward, in fact, before the president is, with a fairly detailed set of principles is a sign that perhaps you can get parts of the right on board. You do have to worry about parts of the left defecting including labor unions who voted against in 2007. But, let me say there is. Bill i have got to go here. [talking at the same time] there is reason for concern. Bill you guys can continue on your own. All right. We will watch the commercial and then there is is plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. Karl rove will weigh in on the deal and the 60 minutes interview tonight. Adam carolla on shaming overweight people and carollas experience on dancing with the stars. There he is whoa. I hope you stay tuned for those reports. Bill liberal man, forced behind the Global Warming movement. Well, mr. Turner has a son. 49yearold teddy turner who is running for congress in South Carolina. A graduate of the sit del. Husband and father of three, today turner is an economics teacher in charleston. Turner will fight for more freedom and less government. So our families will have a secure tomorrow. Conservative teddy turner for congress. Bill what conservative teddy turner . He joins us now from charleston. Are you kidding me . How did you get to be a conservative with such a liberal father . My dad asks me that all the time, bill, i tell you four years of Military College at the sit del and two years in the soviet union, if that doesnt make you a conservative nothing will. And watching a little bit of fox nothing will, either. When you were raised your father ted turner, he wasnt as liberal as he is now, i understand. Correct . No, my dad was pretty tough. He did 8 years of military school. He was in the coast guard. We had there was no sleeping in on the weekends. We did white glove inspections. Dad was tough. He made us work hard. Learn the value of a dollar, all the things that our dads should be doing today. Bill did he discuss politics with you when you were growing up . Oh, absolutely. Our dinner conversations were pretty incredible. I mean, he was involved with all indz of things. And he never we didnt get much into the baseball and Little League and that and i couldve stuff. We were always talking about pretty heavy issues. Was he then a liberal man . Was he you know, did he support the liberal side when you were a kid . No. He didnt. He mid met my mother at a young republicans convention. He was very he was a Small Business guy and before he became a big business guy. But he was very conservative. This change in life has been later on, mainly started within environmentalism. Now you talk to him, i would assume, you are running for congress. We he vote for you if he lived in your South Carolina district . Would he vote for you because you are billing yourself as a conservative small government guy, we vote for you . Well, im not billing myself as conservative. Im extremely conservative. But i think he would. I spent a lot of time with him in the last couple of weeks and talking about issues. Everything we discussed he agreed with me. We are not that far and it wasnt because he was agrees talking im his soninlaw. He is agreeing because its common sense. Is he liberal in certain issues. But really he wants a better world like most of us. But, we dont agree on a lot of politics. All right. So, you guys are, when you talk, mantoman, you dont have a big fischer. But im sure he voted for barack obama. You are not going to vote for barack obama. Now, the Global Warming is his big deal, the environmental stuff. Dodo you believe in Global Warming . Do you think its been caused by carbons and we are the responsibility for this . Well, when he drives the prius to the challenger, you know, you have got to question a little bit. But, you know, what i believe in is clean air and clean water and a future for our kids. I dont believe that my ford f250 is causing Global Warming. I might get a lot of flack for that but, you know, we cant tax ourselves by going in with things like the deoat that protocol and that kind of stuff. So no, im not a believer but i want to make sure that were still doing the right thing going forward. I just dont like scaring kids and telling them we are cook pg ourself. You want clean water and clean air but you are not buying into the fact that the human population has depleted the ozone and thats why its getting warmer. You said something very interesting there you said your father drives the prius to the challenger. Which is a private jet. Do you want to expound on that a little bit . Well, you know, his take is, he owns a lot of trees so his Carbon Footprint is pretty minimal. Bill that sounds like a rationalization to me. [ laughter ] well, it may be that its like catholic indulgences are well in mitigation. We can say a lot of the things. When it comes right down to it, we need to have clean air and clean water but we cant restrict our business because thats the only way we are going to get out of this deficit mess. Bill all right. Your father helping you finance your campaign . Well, is he has written me te 2,500 check like a lot of people have and i think thats all im going to get. Bill very interesting story and we appreciate you coming on tonight. When we come right back, karl rove on immigration and 60 mince interview with president obama and secretary clinton. Rove is next. [ female announcer ] going to sleep may be easy, but when you wake up in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. Its hard to turn off and go back to sleep. Intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you cant get back to sleep. Its an effective sleep medicine you dont take before bedtime. Take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. Do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. Allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of your tongue or throat may occur and may be fatal. 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As we discussed at the top of the program, Immigration Reform coming up quickly. Will republicans support it . And the 60 minutes interview last night with the president and the secretary of state joining us from austin, texas, fox news analyst karl rove. Lets take immigration first. What is your advice to republicans on that . Well, i think marco rubio laid out an excellent set of principles that looks like many of them, most of them have been embodied in this bipartisan 8member senate Panel Republicans ought to give it a we clear strong look as you saw from your interview with marco unionio recently it emphasizes strong Border Security. A guest Worker Program and a fair but tough resolution of the issue of the people here already illegally. Bill generally speaking, i had no beef with senator rubios plan and i hope they get something together. They are arent as i addressed with Juan Williams and Mary Katharine ham. Really coming to gripsz with one of the severe problems. You are going to have a lot of new americans here. You are going to have 12 million here and they are going to bring in another 12 to 15. We are talking 20 to 25 million. Basically invested in this country. Half of the illegal aliens now as i said, receiving means entitlement. How are they going to deal with this . Well, first of all, were not bringing in 12 and then bringing in another 12. As marco explained to you and as the panel apparently has endorsed today, the concept is if you are here illegally you can surface, can you get a card that allows you to stay in the country and work. But if you want citizenship, you have to go to the back of the line, which means that you wont get your green card for. Bill wont stop people from coming here to visit their mom and dad and all of that . Thats right. Thats right. But, the other part of it is you cannot get citizenship for between 12 to 15 years and then and only then can you use this principle of family reunification to try to bring people in. You will notice, also, rubio talked about and the panel today talked about mitigating that issue by putting greater emphasis on allowing people to come here because they have skills, not just because of family. The devil is in the details. Thats right. They have to address the welfare thing somehow. That was the other interesting thing. Rubio talked about and it looks like tentatively this panel has embraced the idea if a if you are one of the people here ill ely and you surface, you can continue to work but you do not get access to government benefits like obama care. Bill that would be interesting. How many benefits are denied you . Because if you say okay we will allow your kid to get a free lunch if you are poor but we are not going to let you go on welfare or this, or this or this or that i think it might expand the amount of people support Immigration Reform and the magnet of drawing people here for the benefits. Bill crux of the matter with liberals saying look how mean they are to the poor and hispanic. Look how mean mean mean mean. You know thats going to happen. Bobby jindal governor of louisiana. Roll the tape. We have got to stop being the stupid party. Im serious. Its time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults. Time for us to articulate our plans and visions for america in real terms. Its no secret we had a number of republicans that damaged the brains this year with offensive and bizarre comments. Im here to say we have had enough of that. All right, we have got to stop being the stupid party and you say . I think he is right. He was talking about todd aiken of missouri and Richard Murdock of indiana and their terrible comments on abortion. I think he is right. This formulation actually has been offered before by Daniel Patrick moynahan who wrote a famous essay in the 1970s talking about the Democratic Party being the stupid party and the Republican Party gaining asen desi. Jindal understands that and paul ryan and marco rubio and Mitch Daniels and scott walker all of whom have been emphasizing the same theme in recent weeks. They are on target. The Republican Party cant be in mindless opposition to barack obama. It has to offer a visitation future that is attractive and compelling to americans to associate with. Bill that means i think what you are saying is have to come to the center a little bit more. Not on the far right. No, what look, it needs to be smart. Which means it doesnt need to go out and say stupid things like todd akin did. Throwing away a senate seat that we should have otherwise h look, it says explain what you are for. And be for something. We are a growth and opportunity party. We believe in limited government. And cutting the deficit and restraining spending because we know that that thereby increases the opportunity to spread prosperity more broadly and for everybody who wants to work hard and set a dream and set a course to achieve their dream. We need to talk about what it is that we want to do for america, not simply what we want to stop president obama from doing. Bill you watched the 60 mince thing last night . Yes. I read i saw the tape of it and then i read carefully the transcript. And i mean, talk about powder puff journalism. That was it. What would you have done had you been steve kroft . Well, i would have had some tough questions. Or i would have look, most of this was just sort of, you know, do you like each other . How long is that endorsement going to last . At least he should have picked up on some of the things that both secretary clinton and president obama said that would have been interesting. For example, president obama said at one point when he he was puffing up about his leadership he said when it comes to egypt, had it not been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outcome there. Well, steve kroft should have said well, mr. President , what we got because of your leadership is a government led by the muslim brotherhood. Is what your leadership is that the best outcome that we could expect there . But instead he let comment like that go by. Maybe the irony was lost on him. Kroft can be if he wants to be a tough interrogator was on, you know, high school, you know, puff journalism last night. Bill i dont know if it was high school. Kroft is a professional but he clearly made a decision and so did the 60 mince brass which i think is the best in the business. They made a decision to do a soft, kind of dating game kind of thing rather than. Look, they didnt need to be A Mike Wallace doing that the late mike wallace. I couldnt imagine Chris Wallace doing it. This was a very interesting moment. He didnt make the most of it. Steve kroft didnt. President obama and secretary clinton made the most of it, which was to sort of congratulate each other and look happy. Thats all they needed to do and thats all they had to do. I want you to watch the interview that i do with party. Powell because its all its about you, your guys. Thats tomorrow. And then we will have you back and you can discuss that interview. Okay . You bet. Bill all right, mr. Rove. On deck mr. Carolla and chubby americans. Some feel we should scorn them. Carolla moments away. Bill back of the book segment tonight. Rolling with carolla. Lots to talk about. Bring in our pal adam from los angeles. Carolla, a guy named Daniel Callahan a bioeth tis wants to put social pressure on chubby americans there is the doctor. He wants to shame them so they will be healthier. You buying it . You say, what . I say good. Thats all we have. Thats all we have ever had is as a society. There is not enough counselors or dietitians or cops. We have to shame. I would like to expand the shaming to welfare moms and deadbeat dads and people who think its a good idea to fly and flip flops. I want shaming. It keeps society in order. Bill but, lets take it one by one. I think deadbeat dads absolutely. That their pictures should be put in the paper, all right . All right . Mothers who who are irresponsible maybe a little bit different. But i get your point. But an american who is overweight could have a health issue, all right . There is a lot of heredity involved with that. All of that. And its a personal choice basically to look the way you want. Expects exercising, pardon the fun, freedom not to exercise or whatever it may be. Should they be scorned for that . Well, listen, i think they are going to get beat up by society no matter what. I mean, prom season is not great when youre fat. And dating is tough. And even job interviews. I mean, they definitely, society gets its pound of flesh out of these people, in this case its pound of blubber. So life is not good. Eventually when there is more of them than there are of us. They will literally crush us. This way, if you think about it. Bill no. Im not buying it carolla. They are not going to crush us. All right. They are going to take over othe world with their enormity. Bill Twilight Zone episode where the people owho dont look so good are running the show and the pretty people. All right. Bill i got it. Super bowl, are you part of this . Are you part of the super bowl mania thing . I love football. I always played football. As a matter of fact, when i played pop warner football, they would line everybody up on defense. Hold the ball out. And yell dont go until you see the ball move. And then they would yell hut and if one guy went forward. We all ran a lap because of Higgins Staller because he wasnt watching the ball and he was shamed and he did not do it again. Bill so finally. That shame working in football. Bill revenge on a kid named higg enthat youthaller. Waiting for this 40 years. I like football. I dont like the super bowl parties because people who dont like football show up, block the tv set and they ask stupid questions like which team is the purple team and all i want to say to you people is i dont go to your tonys party and screw it up for you like which one is ms. Saigon . Im confused. All right now very few people know this. I didnt know it. But that carolla did appear on dancing with stars the television program. Recently Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan turned down a half million bucks to be on ha show but you did it 7. 50 . Didnt they pay you 8 bucks an hour . What did you get. I got whatever minimum wage is in california. I think it was 7. 50 at the time. Plus meals. Bill take a look at him on the program. I used to do a little amateur boxing and then i used to teach boxing back in the day. I kind of have the foot work part down. But a little bit of rhythm. Its my essence. Its my muse. Its my therapy and its christmas, santa and the easter bunny all rolled up into one i am dance. Bill is it true that your partner renounced her american citizenship right after that . Is that true . Yes. She moved with whats his name out of france. Bill right. The other fat guy. Dave purdue. Go shamed garrard. Bill was that fun dancing with the stars . Was that worthwhile for you . No. No. This is for the five kids that watch this show. It wasnt fun. It was scary. And it was a great experience and the only reason i did it is because it was scary. I have a policy which is if its scary, it must be a growth experience unless it involves a bear in which case im not going to do it. If it sounds scary, do it. I have never seen zorro on a motorcycle but you really made him come alive. Factor tip of the day. How to interview president obama should you run into him . The tip 60 seconds away. Factor tip of the day in a moment on interviewing president obama. First, action on billoreilly. Com. Were giving away copies of the constitution and declaration of independence. And the books remain big best sellers and kids book, lincolns last days, a good book for any your chin. Killing lincoln in february. And watch 60 minutes cant wait for your talking points about the interview and usually fair to all. Trying to be fair so you and every other american gets a fair story. And from washington, shockingly disappointing interview. Rick from la canada, california, mike wallace, and seattle, you and Bernie Goldberg criticized the media and Hillary Clintons testimony before congress and tell that hillary mopped the floor with the questioners and he came away with more resuspect for her lawyerly brilliance. Brian do you not see the difference between peters mocking the senators with a compliment to hillary . And the National Media fawning over mrs. Clinton . Do you see the difference there . Fanny evans, kansas