0 before the the economic collapse with george w. bush reelected for two terms. now, completely opposite. >> there is a lot to what you are saying. a lot of it is also generational. as people are aging out of what you would call traditional. >> bill: five years. >> happens gradually. one day you wake up and say. >> bill: i'm old. >> younger generation doesn't particularly dislike the idea that gays can get married. it's in the libertine. it promotes traditional monday hun nothing -- >> if this were a football the left has all the momentum. >> another thing you said which rings through there is no central figure on the right. >> bill: none. >> mitt romney you said he wasn't conservative enough. i don't think he was anything. he tried to be all things to all people and didn't resonate with anybody on the spectrum. that was the problem. >> bigger picture which you are trying to talk about here couple of things going on this. has been going on for decades where the left has been much more well organized, much more you are talking as if tradition is is opposition to liberalism as if you are a liberal therefore you don't respect or honor tradition. that's absurd. liberals have families. liberals are that no must. it's not verses the other like this. traditionals here and liberals here. >> bill: colmes, you have to see that liberal americans and the left are the change drivers. they want the nanny state they want the deemphasis on. colmes, i'm not going to argue with you on this the facts are with me. whether you have a country of 320 million where 50% of the households have someone receiving some government assistance. >> many of them are reference veterans. many of them have paid into the system. social security. >> bill: colmes, it doesn't matter who they are, the nanny state provides some of the provisions are absolutely necessary and some are optional. whether you have more than half of the homes now dependent on the state for their largess you have a nanny state. >> you have to break it down entitlements paying into. >> benefits for serving. >> do you see anyone on the horizon in the traditional realm that can become a leader and galvanize traditional forces in this country? anyone? >> i think there are young conservative leaders like marco unionio. >> he will be on tomorrow night on the program. >> scott walker in wisconsin who are willing not just to talk about conservative economic principles but traditional values. >> take for them to rise. because the media will try to put them down. >> of course, they have already tried to destroy marco ruinio. what you showed in europe was very interesting. especially what's happening in france. western europe is much further down the road of secular progressivism than the united states. >> bill: there is a backlash. >> there is a backlash because a lot of these traditional folks in europe are saying hey, wait. we have tried the secularism, liberalism, and it is destroying their country. >> it's too late for them in europe. it's too late. >> it may very well be and we are getting there fast. >> bill: colmes and his crew may win. next on the run down, lance armstrong admits to doping, lying and being a complete jerk. and this could have a huge legal implication for armstrong. is it legal moments away. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™.