the heat to comparing her suffering to online attacks of a soldier at war. get ready, a big night on the "kelly file" starts right now. breaking tonight, a rare prime time showdown in washington after a devastating new report on how this administration is failing our veterans with some sometimes deadly results. good evening and welcome, everyone, to the "kelly file." i'm megyn kelly. it's 9:0 0 p.m. eastern, 6:00 on the east coast. the veterans affair committee is angrily looking for answers after hours ago the va inspector general confirmed in a preliminary report that 1700 veterans seeking needing medical care at the phoenix va medical center alone were waiting for care but not on any real waiting list. no one really cared. they were suffering excruciating long delays in medical treatment, sometimes over 100 days waiting months and months for one appointment with the government agency they served. and it's not just phoenix. the problems according to the ig are system i can throughout the system. the investigation is into 42 facilities. the secretary general eric shinseki and others are professing outrage, really? they have known about these very issues for more than a decade. that's not opinion, that's fact. ig reports previous ones, government accountability reports, congressional testimony, all raised the alarm on these specific issues. the very ones that they are so outraged about tonight for years, multiple administrations including this white house pa failed to address it, the law, willful blindness. here is a little of what we've seen unfold on capitol hill in the last hour. >> i will not stand for a department coverup. i know that va is with holding documents relating to at least three relevant communications. let me be clear, i'm not happy. you can expect us to be over your shoulder every single day. let me give you a little hint, va won't tell you the truth. >> who authorized the destruction of the list? >> i'm not sure who authorized the destruction. >> why didn't you tell us about the ig investigation and no facts, instead of ignoring us? >> before i question the witnesses, i first miss call for the resignation of secretary shinseki. we have a broken trust. >> congressman, we appear this evening in good faith to answer the best course of action is the one that best serves the need of our veterans. >> in the meantime as calls for secretary shinseki to resign grow from both sides of the isle, veterans themselves are starting to demand an apology directly from the come pankocom chief. president obama promised to send money overseas to fight terrorism but failing to mention the va disgrace. tv host montel williams served in the marines and did not hold back in an interview with our own neil just a few hours ago. >> $5 billion for terrorists? where in the world at west point? where he could have used a day to say i'm sorry for the pain that i've caused you, the families, and i'm going to fix it today. >> joining us now, governor mitt romney, former republican candidate in 2012. good to see you tonight. your thoughts whether in the wake of what we've seen today, i'll start first with president obama, the commander in chief owes these veterans an apology. >> well, there is no question but the president has not over seen the va and several other institutions of our federal government in the way that it is expected. there is not a level of korch tendency with regards to obamacare, the va, with regards to the irs and people have to be held accountable, and the president needs to take responsibility for his failures and in a case of general shinseki, he needs to be removed. he either should resign or be replaced by the president in many respects, it would be nice to drill him over the coming weeks and months to find what he knew and why he wasn't doing the job. we don't have time for someone to take that position. we need someone new who will take responsibility for fixing an unbelievable mess and tragedy for so many people. >> really? so jury cayou're calling for ge shinseki to step down or be fired tonight? >> absolutely. he's not demonstrated the leadership you hope to see in a circumstance of this nature. look, when you have a major hospital network like the va system, you expect it to have benchmarks and investigations looking at each aspect of how the hospital is run comparing it with public and private hospitals outside the military system and to be able to identify problems before they become as acute and serious and chronic in respects as you're seeing here, that hasn't been done apparently and as a result, you really need to have a new leader who knows how to manage something of this nature. >> what does it say to you as a former chief executive, a man that's run not only a state but businesses, successful businesses that this has gone on for so long, inspector general reports repeatedly over the years, general accounting report in 2012 highlighting the same issues. they passed a law in congress president obama signed trying to address some of these issues, none of which got addressed. what does it say to you about how the lemonade stand, if you will, is being run? >> well, there will two things that come out when i look at the scandal at the va. one is that there were clearly not the kinds of measures that you would have in a public hospital or a private hospital that was run outside the va system. they have to have measures to compare themselves, benchmark them with others that flag problems and correct them before they become serious. that's number one. number two, the va system really doesn't have a competitor. hospitals on the outside compete with each other are looking for ways to improve. the va system basically is the only place that some of our veterans can go. i think charles was right when he said veterans ought to be give an voucher if they want to go to a system outside the va, they got to be able to do that. this is inexcusable for the people that served our country to have been so poorly served by this administration and frankly, by prior administrations, as well. >> it took them dying for this to explode on the national scene because veterans don't complain, go where they are told. that's in their nature. i want to switch top picks. the president spoke at west point today and addressed foreign policy matters. he received what is described in many corners as a lackluster, a lackluster reception by those at west point and he went on to make points about our military that his critics are describing as straw men where you set up an argument from the other side that's not really being made to justify your own foreign policy. here is one of those examples where he's talking about how he doesn't believe we need our military in all circumstances. listen. >> i believe in american exceptionalism, just as i suspect that the brits believe in british exceptionalism and the greeks believe in greek exceptionalism. >> i believe in american exceptionalism with every fiber of my being. >> that was the wrong sound bite governor but let me get you to respond to that, as well. that's the president talking about american exceptionalism. what a reversal versus barack obama in 2009 and today. your thoughts on what the president likely believes. >> it's kind of hard to figure out but we've watched the president over the past five or six years and seen his foreign policy and unfortunately, it has not been a success. i think it's a particularly sad day in america when the president of the united states feels compelled to give an address saying that america in effect isn't weak, saying we really are a leader, we really are strong. look, if you have to tell people you're strong then you're not. if you tell people you're not weak, then you are. it's a sad common terry that the president felt necessary to do this. you see around the world, you see the financial times of london writing an article saying american foreign policy, trouble abroad, saying that our friends are fearful and angry as they look at america and the lack of leadership and call us timid, a leader of the democracy movement throughout the world, says america is no longer a leader. this is the reality of the president's foreign policy and he's grasping it someway to try and take the lead again. i certainly hope we find a way for the president to take the lead again, but shrinking our military capacity, the va scandal, the reset with russia, his missteps in the middle east, these combined convinced people around the world that american leadership is very much in doubt and that has to change. >> and the president spoke specifically this week of afghanistan and announced withdrawal and said we'll leave about 9,000 troops but announced to the world when they are coming out and ridiculed by "the washington post" editorial board for doing that, governor. they came out and said the afghan decision would be understandable had mr. obama's previous choices proved out, foreign policy choices. but what is remarkable, the results have been consistent, consistently bad suggesting that this isn't a foreign policy that is likely to succeed or likely to lose the gains we made similar to what we saw in iraq. your thoughts on that? >> well, that's obviously a great concern. on the positive side, i'm happy that the president isn't pulling all of our troops out by the end of 2014, assuming we're able to get a status of forces agreement. he's intending to maintain about 10,000 troops over the coming couple years. that's progress from where he may have been in the past. but then down the road beyond 2016 why we'll have to see how things develop, i do have to tell you that i've always been a critic of the idea of communicating to the enemy exactly what your timetable is. i think it makes a lot more sense to communicate to political leaders what your timetable will be and military leaders but you don't have to tell the tealiban how many troos you have and where they are stationed. that's a mistake and political. it's getting support here in the u.s. frankly, i'm hopeful that we'll see more progress in afghanistan. i think the american people are right in wanting to see the afghan people take responsible for their security. weinvest it more than a decade there and blood and treasure and it's time for them to take the role. i wouldn't be giving the specific dates of withdrawal but moving troops out at least to a lower level then maintaining them over the next couple years is a positive step. >> governor romney, thanks for being here. >> thank you, megyn. good to be with you. we're tracking fallout as the white house outs the name of a high ranking cia officer, sound familiar? 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does this have to do with the shootings we saw in california? rachel is co-founder of the list a community platform for women and dana lash hosts dana on the blaze tv network and a radio america talk show host. rachel, let me start with you. what does this have to do with what happened in santa barbara. >> the manifest toe and video that elliott roger -- >> we try not to use the names of these killers, just fyi. >> that the killer put out there resonated very deeply with women because it was actually very familiar the complaints, the anger, the sense of entitlement, the, you know, the anger at women for not delivering something that he considered his day and it's a collective trouble for women that have felt that sense of threat of menace from men in various situations, a recognition that we live in a world where violence is directed disproportionally towards women. i think that was the reason this hashtag started to trend and as it gained steam as more and more women saw it, there was an outpouring of personal experience and testimony from this. >> dana, was this though, about what we saw in california? this about massage knee or was this about lunacy? >> that's a good question. i was following the harding tag and reading the tweets, the reason in america is a fetus has more rights than a woman is because a fetus can some day grow up to become a man, it could be a mockery of the victims involved. there was three men killed in -- by this killer, as well. three men who were stabbed to death -- >> four in total. >> i don't understand -- that's right. i don't understand why it can't be all people instead of harsh tag all women because it seems to equate some of these women who have grievances that are nowhere near what these men and women experienced. they are dead now. these people talking in this thread, they are still living. these people, their lives were taken, they are dead now. >> my mother says you can't respond to irrational behavior rationally. why we respond to a madman with legit ma si. this guy is nuts. we should focus on our mental health system. >> dana had a good point that absolutely these were the ratings of a lunatic. we all can agree on that. the problem is that lunacy are not exclusive. if you grasp grievances, various grievances and then have an intersection of a level of lack of impulse control and mental illness, you will see that the reason they are not removed from the actual actions, so prior to the killer actually perpetrated these crimes, he put stuff out there that is distinguishable. we're three women here. we have all gotten our share of angry comments, angry tweets that have a sexist and violent -- >> that is true. but the question is why discuss and i think everybody on the panel is all for discussion about the problems that women legitimately face, especially violence against women and threatening behavior. the question is the linking here, dana. >> exactly. it seemed to be as a launch pad and i don't -- maybe it began with good intentions, megyn, i'm not sure but when i was reading through it, it seemed to end uptaking a mocking tone. i'm sitting here reading tweets from women saying i didn't get promoted but i don't like the word man in management -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> the harsh tag. >> ridiculousness, as well. >> the things that i have seen on the hashtag is women talking about feeling unsafe, being assaulted, having -- reported a sexual assault and them being told that, you know, that why would they want to ruin somebody's career or life. >> are legitimate issues. >> all of this -- >> but there is so much of the non-sense -- >> a fake number as opposed to a legitimate rejection to a man. >> it's ridiculous. >> i -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> about these -- >> debt sglthey affect women. >> i got to go. >> did a good job. thank you for being here. i got to run. administration dealing with a controversy after the state a controversy after the state department, are we still on for tomorrow? 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mark is a former presidential speech writer and american enterprise fellow and jessica is a democratic strategist and counsel. thank you both for being here. mark, where is that outrage? >> missing in action. the valley leak, there was a special prosecutor appointed, congressional hearings, the democrats calling treason and she was sitting in an office in virginia. the cia station chief is on the front lines of our war on terror in cobble. he's leading the fight in afghanistan against al qaeda and the taliban. compromising his identity put that mission at risk, compromises our national security, it compromises his personal security and the security of his family back home but this is treated like in big deal. >> jessica? >> well, you know, i think this is clearly a debacle. i don't think anybody is treating this as a big deal. megyn, you're an attorney. there is a clear difference in the way that we can actually prosecute this case versus what happened in the plane situation. the, you know, act that we have on the books right now is clear that it's only a felony under the identities -- >> i don't think anybody is suggesting this is a crime here because by all accounts, this was a mistake but a bad one, a really bad one that actually entakered -- >> really bad -- >> that person's family members and the mission. so the question is where -- >> absolutely. >> where is the outrage about the outing and incompetence that led to it? >> i think there is outrage out there and i think we'll see this going forward. there needs to be some -- heads should roll. there should be house-cleaning going on. there needs to be investigations into what the process is. is this something where we've got -- there is talk about these were new employees because there is changeover. this went through -- >> new employees? wait a minute. this started with the pentagon, if i'm in the mistaken, went through the white house, went from the white house to the press, somebody at the washington post sent it back to the white house saying are you sure? they said yes. the post said to the white house owe, dumb, dumbs, you've done something terrible and only then did they reverse it. that wasn't just one guy who was new like hey, here is the station chief's name. >> yeah, i hate to tell you but new employees don't know the station chief at cobble. you have to be senior. look, if this was just one isolated incident, then we could dismiss it as just a misstick that happened. this is a pattern of leaks from this administration. we got the libyan prime minister kidnapped last year because we leaked the fact he approved a special operations rate in tripoli. we got a pakistan doctor because we leaked details of the bin laden raid. we got an agent in yemen pulled from the field because they stopped a terrorist attack. incompetence has consequences. nobody gets fired. we need to have consequences if we stop the leaks and disasters. >> does it raise questions of competence? we started the show with a va do debacle. it's not new what came out today. the only thing that's new is the number of people that are dead. the incompetence, they are pretending we are shocked. why? why are you so shocked? there is that and this and we talk about how the state department tweeted out with this link to this guy whose the shake who called for american soldiers to be killed, they are celebrating him. all these americans said hey, what are you celebrating that guy for? they said whoops, we're sorry. sorry for that. where does that, you know, innocent mistakes, where do they stop and true incompetence starts? >> well, i think we're seeing a level of incompetence that is really disturbing and upsetting. i couldn't agree with you more. these are systemic issues and that's what they really need to root out. similar to the va, we're talking about decades of incompetence and coverups and things going on, they got to get to the heart of the matter. you can't fire someone and expect the things to be corrected because you chop off the head of the beast and more grows back and you haven't dealt with the systemic issue. how did this information that's so secret that's so important and vital to our security, the security of the folks in cobble get through these different levels? >> right. >> everyone is like, oh, gee, that shouldn't have happened. well, you're right it shouldn't have happened and there are so many different levels, i'm sure mark knows when you work in counter intelligence and terrorism efforts, these agencies and folks after 9/11 have to work together. >> not to point it out but you look oh, it was a mistake and shouldn't have happened. duh? mark, jessica, good to see you. >> thanks, megyn. the big name in hollywood taking heat, actress gwyneth paltrow speaking when she apparently suggested that suffering through online attacks is like dodging bullets or bombs in a war zone. what? trace, what? >> it was at the code conference, megyn, which is a gathering of media and technology types and she was there to promote her lifestyle brand that tackles everything from recipes to hot new clothing styles. she said it's to share lives positives and got a little negative saying people on the internet are often mean. she even spoke about the lack of empathy when people can anonymously opine. listen. >> interestingly, it starts with an object and dehumanization. face book actually started in a way in their first incarnation as a place to judge woman pen on their lack of. >> but before she went on stage and shared her opinion with the crowd she did an interview off camera and somehow decided to equate nasty online remarks with going to war saying, quoting here, you come across online comments about yourself and find are your friends and you find its very dehumanizing thing. it's almost like how in war you go through this bloody dehumanizing thing and then something is defined out of it. this is the same woman who of course back in march said that complained at how difficult it is to be an actress and mom saying it would be so much easier if she had an office job and was a mom and she got a little bit of push back for that, as well. >> trace, thank you. well, up next, administration sparking a fire storm, another one, after a state department burro promotes this man, a clear i can who once effectively ordered the killing of u.s. soldiers in iraq and that's not all. what the? 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